Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]

[haughty lodge]

I thought Cryptid couldn't get more broken then oil lamp came along

[river ember]

Yeah, oil lamp really is breaking everything

I had six maxed out oil lamps

[strong narwhal]

oil lamp is wild

idk why gemini is exotic and it isn't

shit is so much better

[clear hare]

It’s going to get its butt absolutely slapped in mainline

Or maybe just removed

[upper veldt]

oil lamp is so fun though

at least make it epic

[prime lynx]

I think it should be made epic (if not removed) and increase values off of the base number of the joker

[lime ridge]

or be immutable itself
it only gets Broken™ when you have two of them

[pale isle]

Make it a setting

Weather or not it is in the game

[hasty lantern]

where is the link to the mod?

[hollow pumice]

pins

[quick lily]

retriggering might be a little busted

[lapis oriole]

how do you get cursed jokers other than trick or treat?

wait it was chocolate die i see

[silver cobalt]

Please just swap its effect with gemini

Even as the person who made it

Make it immutable like Gemini, and remove immutability from gemini

Also make it epic

Even in the game that the oil lamp is a reference to

It doesnt do exponential scaling

Only linear scaling

[clear hare]

We could make it linear

[oak herald]

oil lamp is so broken im suprised it was only a rare

could easily be legendary

[silver cobalt]

When i made the concept i didnt think of the fact that it can multiply its own values

[river ember]

Hehe fair

[ruby flax]

First time playing Cryptid

What is happening lol

[lime ridge]

the true power of WAAAAAAAA

[lament sapphire]

anyone know why this happens? i just tried to play a hand and it crashes

seems to be whenever i use jokers that have a jolly joker effect but idk why

[lament sapphire]

any ideas on why this is crashing? Every time i grab a jolly joker or look at my vouchers i crash. Do i have a wrong version for something?

[tidal kite]

id recommend just sending these in modding-chat

it could be a problem with smth else other than cryptid

[fathom sable]

don't 👍

😭

[lapis oriole]

are you using the steamodded that came with cryptid?

or the most recent version from the steamodded github?

[lament sapphire]

it ended up being that i was not using the most recent version cf cryptid, and the one i was on had a bug with the M cards

[tidal kite]

not very jolly

💀

[jagged dust]

the music when you get an exotic joker, i NEED on spotify

it slaps man

[tidal marsh]

where is the link to download this mod?

idk if im blind

and are there any dependencies? i managed to find the githuib link but it says it needs dependencies

[jagged dust]

Okay so I get a stack overflow crash whenever I go to play a 2 pair or play anything with the macabre joker

do I maybe need to disable some things?

[brave ibex]

update, this got fixed

[pale nacelle]

playing literally anything while i have m joker x53 mult is crashing my game with stack overflow 😭

[umbral egret]

it includes all of its dependancies in the download (might be outdated versions of them, so if u have any problems then try downloading the newest release of ‘em)

[shut cloak]

highest ive gotten so far

scratch that

[pale nacelle]

nevermind, needed version downloaded from code button not the release on github

[jagged dust]

Ah gotcha

[midnight python]

Game crashes when returning to main menu during "run" code card and going back in

Actually

After quittng the Run shop and playing a hand

Maybe it's already fixed though

[paper rampart]

anyone else crashing on the first boss blind after/when playing a hand? (on the misprint deck)
(on have this mod and it's dependencies installed)
edit: seems like a misprint thing, am not crashing when playing a hand on Plasma Deck
eidt 2: also seems to happen when selecting a blind when you do get past ante 1

the error message

[jagged dust]

where is this?

[paper rampart]

on the main githup page (should be https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid) there is a green button around the top left/top middle that say < > Code [down arrow] (see image for reference)

then it should be the Download ZIP button on the bottom of the drop down menu it pops up

[jagged dust]

found it!

thank ya!

[paper rampart]

np :3

[rain heart]

I'm not sure what to make of this crash, it just randomly happened after I played a hand (and again after restart, so something's definitely wrong)

[jagged dust]

i think I just got the exact same error

I just started a run on the arithmetic deck

oh nvm it's different

[rain heart]

this crash seems to be caused by playing a hand in round 2

[rain heart]

looks like we have a similar error

[shut cloak]

whee

[vocal onyx]

crash upon playing a hand on wormhole deck: the joker I started with is the tredecim

[scenic heath]

Ace Aequilibrium crashes the game when examined and played.

[languid ermine]

So, I didn't select talisman when selecting mods. Now whenever I open Balatro, it crashes. Is there any way to fix this?

I'm probably just going to have to delete cryptid and "reinstall" it, aren't I?

Opened it without Cryptid, and it worked, put it back in and it didn't

Gonna try opening it without Cryptid, selecting talisman and then opening it

yup, that worked

[solar elbow]

Yeah i'm also getting this crash

[solar elbow]

Same as this one in the "table expected goit nil" issue

[shut cloak]

about 10^4.989^10^1230

10^10^100 is a googolplex

[tidal marsh]

is there a download for this mod? i cant find an updated version anywhere

[clear hare]

pins

You can use these links for in-dev versions which are a bit more up to date
Cryptid - https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/archive/refs/heads/main.zip
Talisman - https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Talisman/archive/refs/heads/main.zip
Steamodded - https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/refs/tags/old-calc.zip

[rare parrot]

Same here. Got the same card, tried to play a two pair, crashed with the bad argument #1.

[tidal marsh]

Thank you!

[clear hare]

yw

[livid temple]

wait did cryptid not get affected by the smods update-wave?

nvm just saw that steamoddeds download is old

[abstract snow]

Oops! The game crashed:
main.lua:1841: [SMODS Cryptid "Items/CodeCards.lua"]:4182: stack overflow

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1n-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~ALPHA-1226b-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.6.0
Steamodded Mods:
1: Talisman by MathIsFun_, Mathguy24, jenwalter666, cg-223 [ID: Talisman, Version: 2.0.2]
Break Infinity: omeganum
2: Cryptid by MathIsFun_, Cryptid and Balatro Discords [ID: Cryptid, Priority: 1e+299, Version: 0.5.3a]
Lovely Mods:
1: Cryptid-main
2: Talisman

Stack Traceback

(3) global C function 'error'
(4) Lua field 'update' at file 'main.lua:1841'
Local variables:
dt = number: 0.0398246
success = boolean: false
msg = string: "[SMODS Cryptid "Items/CodeCards.lua"]:4182: stack overflow"
(5) Lua function '?' at file 'main.lua:931' (best guess)
(6) global C function 'xpcall'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '?' (defined at line 902 of chunk main.lua)
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

what happened 😭

LOL

" "Items/CodeCards.lua"]:4182: stack overflow"

what does that mean am i too good

[abstract snow]

literally how

THESE ARE MY JOKERS

WDYM "stack overflow"

[mental tiger]

Bugged

[abstract snow]

LOL

[mental tiger]

i can't select or skip

nor hover over my cards

[merry zenith]

good lord

that is a big number

[open grail]

just wait until you hit double e

also, is this a cryptid joker or no? i asked, and someone said it might be cryptid by the 'm' markers

[silver cobalt]

No

[deep kite]

Mika’s

The circle m is what is a Mika’s chard that doesn’t have original art I think

[open grail]

cryptid is now causing the injector to crash? what the hell-

[weak burrow]

cant be lower than zero, from a google search usize is from 0 until (2^64)-1

so just change the priority and it should be fine

[open grail]

i got these priorities from dimserene's modpack.. so yippie

[weak burrow]

whats your lovely version?

[open grail]

how do i even check that?

[weak burrow]

should be in the crash report i think

since this is a crash check your mods folder for lovely and loog at the logs

iirc there should be something there

maybe theres a simpler way to check but thats how i remember

[open grail]

0.5.0-beta6

[weak burrow]

@oblique tide I don't think this is a bug per se but like wasn't negative priority allowed before? I don't remember exactly how it worked before

[open grail]

updating lovely seems to have worked

[subtle nova]

Yeah 90% of lovley panics are just old lovelys not liking new patches

At least when end users are getting them

[weak burrow]

But iirc didn't lovely support negatives before?

[subtle nova]

No

Well

Maybe

[rare parrot]

This is still broken, also it doesn't require that specific card. Ima test if it happens with other decks as well.

[oblique tide]

it did not, that type was something ridiculous like a u65 before

u64

[rare parrot]

Beige caused it on big blind, I got a cryptid joker, sold it, and got a vanilla one.

[rare parrot]

I recorded the yellow deck attempt from my first shop to the crash

For blue deck, I got no jokers from shop 1, and a vanilla joker from shop 2. Crashed on boss, possibly because said boss was modded.

[open grail]

Is there a list of all the secret hands added by cryptid?

[strong narwhal]

||the entire fucking deck, ultimate pair, clusterfuck||

only those 3 iirc

[silver cobalt]

bulwark too

[stark charm]

And I'm still trying to figure out what that second one (||Ultimate Pair||) is formed.

[lime ridge]

||two pairs of pairs, each pair of pairs being the same suit||

||e.g. 22KK♠️ and 5599♦️||

[half vale]

can anyone help me describe what the fuck a scalae is and what it does

[subtle nova]

Its a joker and I forgor

[thick fractal]

Currently on my highest run ever in cryptid

179, game is CHUGGING

[stark charm]

||So, effectively four different pairs between two suits?||

[lime ridge]

||basically but not quite. your description would include 225588♥️ + JJ♣️, but that doesn't qualify||

[paper rampart]

anyone able to help me on this?

[stark charm]

Ah, ok

[half vale]

my game broke lmao if i sell the soul the game crashes, if i continue the game crashes xd

[civic acorn]

@clear hare Do you know where Mjiojio is?

[clear hare]

they're @lime inlet

[civic acorn]

Ah...that's a weird name, lol. Sorry, I thought it was still Mjiojio.

[half vale]

this is so scuffed

[clear hare]

if the game crashes, it crashes

[half vale]

bruh

[gritty spruce]

Im having trubble launching this mod without it crashing on startup, can anyone help me out?

[rare parrot]

can someone whose game isn't crashing the moment they use a cryptid card tell me how? bc I rlly want to play this mod.

[rare parrot]

*by "using a cryptid card," I mean this.

[strange pagoda]

Hey there, I was just wondering if anyone knew why Balatro crashes so often with Crypid for me? Like it feels strangely more usual than other people, some decks just isntantly crash the game and playing some hands regardless of ante or build the game just crashes.

I also have some visual bugs, like jokers that have another layer, like the exotics, that double some details that move around

[half vale]

what the fuck is going on

[austere nest]

how to find the zip

[rare parrot]

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid

click on code and download zip

[austere nest]

ty

[open grail]

this puts into perspective how many layers of toughness ascendant stake adds

also antimatter deck seems abit more silly

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE CRASH IS 2 MB?!

and it crashed lmao

it looks like it got into some infinite loop

[half vale]

surprised that my laptop is still alive

[open grail]

talisman is probably really helping with that

how long is the 'calculating' screen usually up for?

[half vale]

depends, sometimes 500k calcs, sometimes several million

time-wise, several seconds to two minutes

[strange pagoda]

We are balling

I somehow get money when I spent it

I am at 1mil calculations

[covert sparrow]

any idea what happened here

playing on a older version

[wary magnet]

Does anyone have a way to make cryptid to work with a deckbuilder mod?

[merry ridge]

When I try to play any hand

Latest everything (github zip, not release pages)

negative deck

[tardy geyser]

cryptid is a balanced mod

[jagged dust]

Most basic polychrome deck run

[twilit peak]

I keep getting a stack overflow when i play any hand with this joker. it also happens with "Jolly Joker?" (the one with the m face) I know they cause it because selling them fixes it.

Also most of the time when crashing doesnt even catch the error, the game just fully exits. Would send the crash log but the game doesnt stay open for me to copy it and i dont know where the log is stored if there is one

weird because neither of them have anything to do with scoring calculation

[kind river]

All right, I tried to fix it for a long time now and I'm absolutely stumped. New calc steamodded, old calc steamodded, stripped down all the mods down to cryptid and it's still crashing when cashing out post-round-win. (First run, new run, nothing special at all collected.)

Anyone smarter than me have any ideas, please?

[bleak cliff]

I'm having a strange issue where my cards don't score when played. This has happened in both the negative deck and the Deja Vu deck

haven't tried other decks yet, but it wasn't specific to one deck

[kind river]

Try different steamodded versions. Had that on some versions, and other errors on other versions.

[jagged dust]

The game keeps crashing when I click on vouchers

[rare parrot]

Found our problem. Reinstall steammodded with this advice.

[rocky agate]

this has been calculating for the last 4 hours, is there any mods that can help speed it up or do i just have to adjust what jokers im using?

[vocal onyx]

thanks!

[rare parrot]

:)
I was reinstalling for a completely different reason when I saw it.

[rare parrot]

1. Didn't know there was a cryptid discord
2. Thanks to everyone there for probably just winning me my run!

5.895e14 score on ante 4

[tidal kite]

that is insane

[rare parrot]

now imagine if I had mario instead of canio for my other legend :)

[lime ridge]

i believe steamodded's better calc project will help with this, once it's properly finished and cryptid is updated to work with it
but for now, no, nothing

[urban cape]

how did you add reverie

[rocky agate]

alright thanks

[mental tiger]

The usual way?

[urban cape]

dont they use 2 different versions of steamodded

[mental tiger]

The current smod works

[urban cape]

When I add it my game crashes

[kind river]

Yeah, right now I can't get any version to work correctly with latest Cryptid or dev build. Either I get crashes on new steamoddeds or cards stop counting completely on old.
It's f'd.

[urban cape]

this is the error

[ebon lodge]

where do i go to download this mod?

nvm got it

[rocky agate]

game keeps crashing on cash out. I think it's because of the interest calculation from money beanstalk basically uncapping it. Is there any fix for this?

[mighty condor]

Hi everyone, trying to find a fix for this. Steamodded was updated, and Cryptid updated like half an hour ago, is there anything else I need to do?

Lovely and Talisman are both installed

[rocky agate]

you need to use an older version of steammodded

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/refs/tags/old-calc.zip

[mighty condor]

Thank you very much! All works now

[lapis oriole]

does jolly break oops all sixes?

[abstract snow]

i got 3 mil joker slots is that enough

[abstract snow]

thank god i was scared i wasnt gonna make it

[covert hemlock]

is there something i dont know about that makes the "calculating" part faster (or atleast not drop to a frame per minute once it reaches ~800mil) bcs i would love to reach the limits of talisman scoring, but so far it seems impossible for me. i just spent 19h waiting for a scoring only to alt+f4 because it dropped down to doing one calculation per minute

and my pc isnt reaching its limits, nothing is over 50% of utilization

sooo i assume thats just balatros framework that isnt intended to go that far?

[half vale]

it has been several dozen minutes

[kind river]

Minutes? That's rookie numbers. Gotta push those number up. I once left it overnight and still found it calculating in the morning.

[half vale]

i do not want to turn my laptop into a hazard

[kind river]

That's just the Cryptid lifestyle

[tidal kite]

HWAT

[kind river]

I think it was a Deck of Equilibrium. Real easy to get broken quick with a bunch of Exotics. And then you end up with literal hundreds of Jokers calculating dozens of played cards. You know. The usual.

[fast hollow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1219383972707041312/1326949218325233664/image.png?ex=67814943&is=677ff7c3&hm=a59a21772a291913fc7ff5a8093cc85a065ec85b2a3c3bcf5fb8b740b0ce7c23&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1202&height=676 dont do this

very BAD idea

[fast hollow]

ive been minmaxxing calcs vs score

most score with least calcs..

the strat seems to be using universe + oil lamp or the exotic that doubles and the exotic that makes you draw your entire deck

[kind river]

Yes, but what's the fun in actually being able to sometimes play the game instead of watching calc number go to 5 BILLION and counting on a 1000 point blind...

Wait... shi...

[sand prawn]

@pearl dagger, this is channel with cryptid btw, you can ask questions about it crashing here

[pearl dagger]

oh alr

alright chat so

this is the error it gives me when it tries to load in a match

[lime ridge]

looks like you're using a bettercalc version of steamodded
you should downgrade it to old-calc https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/releases/tag/old-calc

[rain heart]

this blind is unfortunately zero fun

[lime ridge]

it is yes
even now that they patched it to ensure it will let at least one hand through, it still kinda sucks

[rain heart]

just encountered a weird glitch (i think it's a glitch anyways) where i just instantly died after selecting this blind?

like i still have 4 hands left

[abstract snow]

i was worried i wasnt gonna beat the ante

LOL

[abstract snow]

ur hand size is 0

u literally have no cards to play

did u have a joker or use any spectral cards that reduced ur handsize?

[pearl dagger]

thank you!

[pearl dagger]

Ante 1 round 23????

[rain heart]

ante 0 voucher

[rain heart]

not that i know of

[pearl dagger]

also i'm sorry???

i got LITERAL INFINITY

[rain heart]

havent seen that before

with only 2 scoring jokers too

[rain heart]

how tf did you get so many joker slots

[pearl dagger]

yea and now i automatically lost

[lime ridge]

huh
normally that only happens if you get naneinf money and use boots or bull

i have no idea how those jokers could be breaking numbers this way

[pearl dagger]

wait i think i do know

wait no i dont

i was thinking the first guy went -50 and then got elevated to pi

but im not sure

either way my run is fucked

first day of modded Balatro and i already got a gamebreaking glitch how unlucky am i

[lime ridge]

-50^π is around -200k
that shouldn't break anything, but

[rain heart]

better than tons of crashes

[pearl dagger]

i mean yes but this literally autoloses your run

and in TWO JOKERS

[rain heart]

only ante 4 so it's not too bad

[pearl dagger]

anyway should i share the seed in case yall wanna replicate it

[rain heart]

had a run die to a glitch at ante 44 yesterday

go for it

[pearl dagger]

alr

lemme finish it first

[lime ridge]

i'm gonna check with debugplus

[subtle nova]

Why does infinity lose?

It doesn't in vanilla

[pearl dagger]

deck btw

[lime ridge]

that's a good question and one for #1241172556849876993

[pearl dagger]

also yup it loses your run

[clear hare]

It’s an omeganum bug and one I really don’t care about fixing since you need glitches or naneinf money (which is getting changed) to even get there

[pearl dagger]

thing is i had neither tbh

it was just the bus and pi

no other mods either

[clear hare]

negative mult with pi causes the glitch

[lime ridge]

two different bugs there yeah

[pearl dagger]

OH

[clear hare]

This one should get a fix

I will look into it since it’s an easy setup to reproduce

[pearl dagger]

man so i DID get hella unlucky

sob

[lime ridge]

yeah i reproduced it quickly

[pearl dagger]

"3XBWW9L5"s the seed btw

in case yall wanna try it quickly

[lime ridge]

i was just double-checking whether it was a pi-specific problem or -mult in general (it is in fact pi-specific)

[pearl dagger]

on Wormhole (which is why i had pi)

[pearl dagger]

dang

pi's peak tbh though

[clear hare]

Probably non-integer ^Mult in general causes it

[lime ridge]

it's pretty fun
and, y'know, you don't usually get negative mult anyway :p

[lime ridge]

hmmm what's an easy way to get decimal mult to test that

[clear hare]

Exponentia

?

And then bus for negative mult

[pearl dagger]

yeah true

[clear hare]

Ok turns out the omeganum lib is just hardcoded to do that

(Negative)^(Non-Integer) = NaN which becomes inf somehow

[lime ridge]

greedy + smoothie to get 4.5 mult per diamond does not cause pi to break

[pearl dagger]

did i really discover this shi within 1 hour of playing the game randomly lmfao

[lime ridge]

apparently!

[pearl dagger]

peak fiction

[clear hare]

Fixed, there’s probably similar checks for hyperoperators though

[pearl dagger]

Antimatter deck is giving me an aneurysm

like what

[subtle nova]

you can get joker limits like that in vanilla

[pearl dagger]

i mean yuh its just funny as hell

what counts as a 0.3 of a card

do i have to bite it

[lime ridge]

oh y'know, it just turns a 10 of clubs into a 7-3 of clubs-diamonds
(it does not work like that but it would be funny if it did)

[pearl dagger]

WHAT

LMFAO

[lime ridge]

ah, cube

put the little cube in your tea ♌

[pearl dagger]

bro genuinely just dropped a cube for -27 bucks in the shop and called it a day

also Antimatter is deadass like those lobotomy video shorts

cause what the fuck is going on

@lime ridge does this do what i think it does

[abstract snow]

oil lamp on that one joker that multiplies all values of all jokers

multiple oil lamps actually

plus a SHIT TON of jawbreakers

[silver cobalt]

Oil lamp is literally breaking the game

[umbral egret]

only one way to find out :3

[pearl dagger]

hell naw 😭 also which decks give merge n flip options? i see them in Antimatter but nowhere else

[kind river]

Do it. It will be funni.

[pearl dagger]

also am i broke

[umbral egret]

that’s just a part of the “double-sided” edition. when something is double sided, you can select it and a non-double-sided card to put the other card on the other side of the d-s card, then you can flip it whenever you want to access either side

[pearl dagger]

interesting asf

also which mod gives the 162 of spades

and is it compatible with this one

[umbral egret]

yea but it’s a bit too much trouble for what it’s worth imo

[umbral egret]

the what

[subtle nova]

It was photoshopped

[pearl dagger]

This but idk

Cant find the full pic but i got this ss

[kind river]

There's certain Jokers that it's REALLY good for, because You can switch the Joker off on command to avoid it doing something negative. Or getting destroyed under specific circumstances.
Also it lets You merge other jokers to the flip joker, even if there's already a Joker on that side so You can overwritte either side at any moment iver time.
I've been sleeping on it a long time, but it's really powerful. Just more strategic than raw power.

Haven't tried it with cursed Jokers yet. If those can get merged too than a flip joker is an easy joker delete card too.

[pearl dagger]

Chat i got a flush thirteen is that good

also why is Fridge Magnet THAT hilarious

like bro bombdrops you idkhowmuch

[lime ridge]

the game force saves when you use it :p

and then you get to see the funni

[candid sluice]

so i just downloaded cryptid, and it seems when i play a hand that activates a modded joker, the game just straight up crashes, no crash screen either, the game just closes

like i had a joker that was going to create a jolly uncommon joker on hand played, game crashed, then sold it and game didnt crash

gonna experiment around a bit see if it keeps happening

[clear hare]

It’s a version mismatch, either use everything from the Cryptid release download or everything from what I’m going to forward

(Don’t use this Steamodded, use the first one)

[candid sluice]

ok ty!!

[tidal kite]

she downloaded old-calc tho
unless theres a mistake here

[clear hare]

Yeah use old-calc

The second link is from November lol

[tidal kite]

m joekr

[solid stone]

Hello! Does cryptid work with Lovely? I play mobile but I wanted to play on my steam deck with some of the mods I saw Roffle Lite play

Or does steammodded work with SteamOS?

[subtle nova]

steamodded does (it uses lovely)

[civic acorn]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1324037115171831819

[pearl dagger]

Does it work together with Cryptid

[clear hare]

Probably

[white zephyr]

It's normally works with Cryptid, but unfortunately it has already been updated to support bettercalc (which means it won't run on the older steamodded version that Cryptid currently used)

but once Cryptid supports bettercalc then it would work together again yes

There's the older version of it on the old_calc branch that would work with Cryptid current version, but you won't find 161 meme rank there because it's a part of the bettercalc update

[pearl dagger]

Will bettercalc make Cryptid way faster

[white zephyr]

I'm not a Cryptid dev nor knowing the complete insides of Steamodded so I can't say anything sorry

I just know bettercalc has breaking changes + new coding features so other mods have to update to support it

[half vale]

uhh

[kind river]

This is fine.

[stark charm]

This feels like a feedback loop...

[kind river]

Regrettably it wasn't. But still enough to quickly break.

[clear hare]

[pearl dagger]

Then how is it better calculation smh 💔

[strong narwhal]

better for developers

more convenient

[pearl dagger]

Dang

When are we getting Evenbettercalc then

[clear hare]

betterer calc when

[raven wedge]

worsecalc when

[fast dust]

The lowercase m card shows up even if you have M jokers disabled.

[low aspen]

Hello Everyone i keep Crashing When Going Past The Seraphs Deck And I Dont Know What To Do

[short sonnet]

this is a post of screenshot of a comment under a repost of a post of a comment under a post

[low aspen]

When choosing a deck, if I go past the Seraphs deck I crash

[clear hare]

intentional

[oak herald]

see lowercase m was made before M jokers were a thing

[pearl dagger]

is this overkill

[solid summit]

it can't be THAT bad!
looks inside
oh god

[covert hemlock]

someone help a balatro error msg illiterate pls ;;

main.lua:1841: [SMODS Cryptid "Items/EpicJokers.lua"]:623: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'orig_scale_scale' (a table value)

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1n-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~ALPHA-1220a-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.6.0
Steamodded Mods:
    1: Aurinko by jenwalter666 [ID: aurinko, Priority: 9.9e+301, Version: 0.4.11]
    2: Cryptid by MathIsFun_, Cryptid and Balatro Discords [ID: Cryptid, Priority: 1e+299, Version: 0.5.3a, Uses Lovely]
    3: Talisman by MathIsFun_, Mathguy24, jenwalter666, cg-223 [ID: Talisman, Version: 2.0.2, Uses Lovely]
        Break Infinity: omeganum
    4: Incantation by jenwalter666, MathIsFun_ [ID: incantation, Priority: 9e+301, Version: 0.5.10, Uses Lovely]
    5: Jen's Library by jenwalter666 [ID: JenLib, Version: 0.3.4]
    6: Nopeus by jenwalter666, stupxd [ID: nopeus, Version: 2.2.3, Uses Lovely]
Lovely Mods:

Stack Traceback
===============
(3) global C function 'error'
(4) Lua field 'update' at file 'main.lua:1841'
Local variables:
 dt = number: 0.0378133
 success = boolean: false
 msg = string: "[SMODS Cryptid \"Items/EpicJokers.lua\"]:623: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'orig_scale_scale' (a table value)"
(5) Lua function '?' at file 'main.lua:931' (best guess)
(6) global C function 'xpcall'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
 func = Lua function '?' (defined at line 902 of chunk main.lua)
 inerror = boolean: true
 deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
 earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])```

ok i found out what causes the crash, playing a hand when you have the ||Double Scale|| Joker once and the ||Scalae|| Joker twice crashes the game

onto the next issue

[kind river]

Double poly blueprint X29 Whip with a side of Stardust coming right up...

[main field]

stack overflowed with cryptid, probably some kind of mod conflict but I'm not entirely sure what or why

[mental tiger]

it's with balatro plus

[main field]

overflow in cry_double_scale_calc

[main field]

nah not your issue, havin an issue of my own unfortunateluy

[kind river]

Balatro plus probably. Was crashing for me too

[main field]

ahhhh, somethin went wrong with happy house

not sure why but the game imploded when it tried to add a hand to it

[mental tiger]

it's anytime a card would be created

[main field]

probably a real bad sign that the log file traceback has uh. 14552 lines of tracing

[mental tiger]

i used the royal flush joker and it crashed to

[main field]

I've never even seen a trace this big for anything

fourteen thousand lines of traceback... yeah I'm probably not finding the direct cause anytime soon lmao

[mental tiger]

i think it might be jokerdisplay

[main field]

the only other (non-required) mod I've got is Bunco so that's probably where my issue originates

[kind river]

26 of Lucky, fragile, red seal rigged 7 of Diamonds.

perfectly balanced

[woven linden]

ok, cryptid rule number one:

1. DO NOT make a boredom rigged

[stark charm]

Oh, you don't say! XD

[versed cloud]

and then all 26 of them break in a row

[tacit heath]

what does machine code do???

[vocal wedge]

gives you a random glitched consumable

[calm kraken]

cryptid is fun

[strong narwhal]

NOOO!!! cryptid is THE WORST mod EVER!!!!!

[reef pine]

I'm not surprised when i saw this on the Enter the Gungeon.

[karmic steppe]

weird visual bug with exotics on old calc

[karmic steppe]

weirdly enough, after removing every mod one by one and re-adding every mod one by one to try to debug this problem, it disappeared

[low aspen]

I Really Need Help i Just Installed Cryptid and Tailsman But none of my cards are Scoring

[karmic steppe]

use https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/refs/tags/old-calc.zip

[low aspen]

Thank YOUUU!

[kind river]

That's the thing. They don't. Because 'Rigged' makes the 7 out of 8 chance not to break guaranteed. 😄

[clear hare]

There’s one really fragile part of the code that fixes this, so it breaks pretty often lmao

[timber perch]

I was actually coming in to see if that issue was fixed cause I was having that same problem recently so thanks

[kind river]

Oh, btw for anyone having any weird crashes they can't quite pinpoint: try running on a new profile. I have been struggling for several days, then finally just created a new profile, unlocked everything through the setting in the profile to make sure I have any and all stuff that could cause problems unlocked - no errors. Same setup on original profile - immediate crash. Seems profiles might get slightly bonked by some mods over time. Permanently.

[timber perch]

What do I do with old calc? Like do I replace the files in smod or-

[kind river]

use it instead of the other one. Delete the other completely

[timber perch]

ah okay
thanks

[kind river]

if still getting issues, try going from old calc (1304a) back to 1220a that comes with one of the cryptid packages. Depending on what other mods you run, compatibility of all parts may vary

[karmic steppe]

delete steamodded, add smod old calc

swap em

[tacit heath]

idk how

[karmic steppe]

dont know which mod im using that is doing this but this voucher is incompatible with one of them

im pretty much only getting code cards from tarots

will test

[karmic steppe]

it appears to be codex arcanum, outdated mod from what ive heard so makes sense. ngl the code cards being rarer isnt actually a negative for me, but if you do want to take a look and potentially fix the incompatibility the mod is https://github.com/lshtech/Codex-Arcanum

[clever bone]

I dont know if this is the best place to put this info, but if you are using the git commands to keep your steamodded up to date and you want to switch to old-calc, use the command git checkout tags/old-calc

[karmic steppe]

you could put this in #1209564621644505158 or #⚙・modding-general

[clever bone]

If someone who has more pull in the modding community wants to put this info in somewhere it will help out more please do

[clever bone]

I see

[maiden kiln]

I have an idea for a Jocker, idk is it cool or no
Lottery ticket (rare)
1 in 1.000.000 chance to ^1.000 mult

[civic acorn]

...wait.

[versed cloud]

Oh I didn't even consider that, no wonder it's worded that way

[clear hare]

too similar to Googol Play Card

[civic acorn]

Do you not notice the . instead of ,? I think it's meant to be a meme Joker that tricks the 98%.

[fickle sky]

anyone else having issues with voucher related stuff?

i tried checking my vouchers and the game crashed, then i tried using trade and the same thing happened

[clear hare]

-# Also I think in some places the function of . and , are swapped lol, so that could be the reason

[civic acorn]

Ah, okay.

It'd be funny if you added a Joker like that though, which is just:
1 in 1.000 chance for ^1.000 Chips and Mult.
That just always procs and does absolutely fuck all.
(Even better if it's tetration (^^), just to mess with the people that demand for that to be added to Cryptid, when it should be Almanac only.)

[lament flicker]

me when Multiply code card:

(makes the joker way better)

[clear hare]

lol

[karmic steppe]

x1 mult for high card v2

[lament flicker]

frrr

[karmic steppe]

except worse cause you can use the 1.5x on sell food joker to upgrade high card joker

[lament flicker]

you can do that to this one too cant you?

[karmic steppe]

on that card even if you multiplied its value, you still have to find a glitched code card to make it 100%

[lament flicker]

rig it with seed

[karmic steppe]

good idea

imagine having this conversation with a 14th century peasant do you think they would explode

[lament flicker]

nah they'd accuse us of being witches

[karmic steppe]

id say "nah im a jester"

[lament flicker]

oh yeah also glowing deck would make that joker way better

[pale isle]

They cant because of rigged

[kind river]

Not that it'd matter. I have since shifted my strategy slightly...

[pale isle]

Astral single handedly carrys runs

[kind river]

Yeah, especially when...

[void relic]

How does Hooked work? I dont really understand it

[kind river]

Yeah, it's confusing. It seems to work on 'triggers', and both cards need to trigger at the same part of game.
As in: during multi calculation, or during reroll, or during post game held-in-hand gold countdown, etc. It needs to be similar context.

So then when it naturally counts to one of the hooked cards it re-triggers the other one once.

And if you hook multiple cards tot he same one, then the card that gets hooked multiple times only remembers the last hook, but the others still refer to it.
Example:

You hook card a and card b. Card A now hooks to card b, and card b to card a. Then You hook card a and card c. Card a now hooks to card c, card c hooks to card a, but card b still hooks to card a even though card a doesn't hook to card b any more.

[unique needle]

I got a problem, either Talisman or Cryptic are messing with card scoring, directly breaking it, no matter what, I cant score any cards

[kind river]

change steamodded to old calc.

1304a or 1220a if 1304 crashes

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/tree/old-calc

[unique needle]

Thanks!

[scenic heath]

Why don't I gain chips when scoring cards?
This happens when I have cryptid installed.

[karmic bough]

^

[scenic heath]

Thanks

[royal plover]

Iv been having a problem with cryptid; when I open a pack it just full crashes the game not even an error report.

[calm kraken]

the jolly joker generator

[pastel badge]

good old jollymaker

[calm kraken]

its more effective than I thought

[pale isle]

cavendish

my beloved

[viscid steppe]

how fun

if 3 hands remaining:
[chips]^π^π^π
[mult]^π^π^π

[viscid steppe]

Good lord.

[tender hawk]

Cryptid is a great mod but holy hell does it get laggy

[still venture]

loving this mod so far, but Im thinking it would be really cool if there was a version that only included the new decks (at least the vanilla friendly ones) so I can play other mods with all the cool cryptid decks

[vocal wedge]

u can enable/disable specific features

[still venture]

oh right

I kinda forget thats a thing lol

[tawny marlin]

Between Cryptid and a few other mods I have installed I have lots and lots of decks. I would like to unlock stakes up to orange stake for all of my decks so I can move into the new stakes introduced by Cryptid. However, I do not want to unlock everything. Is there a way to accomplish this? Googling it only turns up suggestions for the mod Faster Stakes Unlock by Wiwiweb, but that mod is either defunct or incompatible with my modlist because it did not work when I tried it. Does anyone have any suggestions?

[pale isle]

90% of cryptid decks are free wins anyway

[clear hare]

you can use debugplus to just press the win button for the earlier stakes

[karmic steppe]

i didnt realise this changed, nice!

[long vault]

on 0.5.3c with release versions of talismad and smods

has pokerman but idk if its actually worth

[tender hawk]

So what does the blank deck do

Unless the whole point is that it does nothing and I missed the joke

[unique needle]

Jolly jokers crash the game any time I play a hand, any joker related to jolly

[jolly violet]

hey some help would be great if you dont mind

[still venture]

these high rank jokers are so fun lmao

[tawny marlin]

What is the win button? It's not listed in keys.txt or when using the help command.

[clear hare]

you hold tab and it's one of the buttons there

[tawny marlin]

Ah, gotcha! Thanks, this will be great.

[lime ridge]

currently that is the joke, yes
presumably when (if) an unlock system ever gets implemented, the antimatter deck will be unlocked by winning some number of times with blank deck

[umbral egret]

prolly 10 times, like with the voucher

[mental tiger]

Light cards

[mental tiger]

weird thing anytime i click the screen it makes a noticifation of my M jokers current values

it caused alot of lag

energia wasn't making new tags and glitched keeps giving me resevered parking

[strange oxide]

revert steamodded to old-calc or use cryptid's better-calc branch

[karmic bough]

So many branches

[wild urchin]

could someone please point me towards the better-calc branch? discord is basically unsearchable, and github is confusing

[short sonnet]

cryptid's better-calc branch is wip rn, some jokers just don't work i believe

oh nvm i may be wrong

jevonn sweep

[clear hare]

w jevonn

i still gotta get editions/enhancements fixed, won't have much time for a few days tho so no promises on when that happens besides "this week"

[north tide]

not sure where to do a bug report but it appears that when you make Oil Lamp double sided in Glowing Deck it resets the multiplier and does not grow after beating a boss blind

[tepid raft]

No need to rush perfection. I'm sure we'll get the better-calc fixes soon enough. 👍
P.s. Good job on the current re-write, that intro is awesome to see and I'm glad to see a "Break My Game" Madness mode. 🤣

[oblique folio]

ive no clue why this keeps happening

i was in a really good run too :(

is there a way to fix this

[buoyant quail]

So,

I happened to somehow trigger this

I am not overly fluent with LUA, but I think I broke something

[long vault]

are we ever getting a newcalc version

nvm i se

[clear hare]

in development now :)

expect it sometime later this week

[void relic]

I cant unlock wee joker, the one that need $400 to unlock

and the planet one now require the new planet as well?

[celest plover]

Cryptid removed 😔

Was going to claim reward

game crash

also before this fusion joker gave me lot of errors

[unborn roost]

Oops! The game crashed:
Syntax error: game.lua:2596: duplicate label 'continue'

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1n-FULL (best guess)
Modded Version: 1.0.0~ALPHA-1220a-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.6.0
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback

(3) C function 'function: 0x22a9bc08'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 1728
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x22a9f0c0 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x22a9f110 (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

this hadppened when i launched the game

oh nvm i think i just have dupilcates

we all goodf

[oblique folio]

why are all my jokers glitched?

im not playing on glitched deck

[umbral egret]

do you have the E R R O R joker?

[oblique folio]

yup i noticed that and took it out

[umbral egret]

cool

[mental tiger]

Oops! The game crashed:
main.lua:1845: [SMODS Cryptid "Items/CodeCards.lua"]:4515: stack overflow

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1n-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~ALPHA-1304a-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.6.0
Steamodded Mods:
1: More Fluff by notmario [ID: MoreFluff, Version: 1.0.3-ja, Uses Lovely]
2: Betmma Voucher Pack by Betmma, nicholassam6425 [ID: BetmmaVoucherPack]
3: KCVanilla by krackocloud [ID: kcvanilla, Version: 1.9.2, Uses Lovely]
4: Celeste Card Collection by AuroraAquir, toneblock, Gappie, bein, sunsetquasar, goose! [ID: CelesteCardCollection, Uses Lovely]
5: Cosmos by Cosmos [ID: Cosmos, Version: 0.0.3, Uses Lovely]
6: Bunco by Firch, RENREN, Peas, minichibis, J.D., Guwahavel, Ciirulean, ejwu [ID: Bunco, Version: 5.0, Uses Lovely]
7: Betmma Jokers by Betmma [ID: BetmmaJokers]
8: 5 legendary challenges by Betmma [ID: legendaryChallenges]
9: SDM_0's Stuff by SDM_0 [ID: sdm0sstuff, Version: 1.6.4i, Uses Lovely]
10: Talisman by MathIsFun_, Mathguy24, jenwalter666, cg-223 [ID: Talisman, Version: 2.0.2, Uses Lovely]
Break Infinity: omeganum
11: Betmma Vouchers by Betmma [ID: BetmmaVouchers, Priority: -1, Version: 3.0.1.2(20250111)]
12: Better Vouchers This Run UI by Betmma [ID: BetterVouchersThisRunUI]
13: Cryptid by MathIsFun_, Cryptid and Balatro Discords [ID: Cryptid, Priority: 2147483647, Version: 0.5.3c, Uses Lovely]
14: Card Sleeves by LarsWijn [ID: CardSleeves, Priority: -1, Version: 1.5.3, Uses Lovely]
Lovely Mods:
1: my_balatro_mods

[shrewd talon]

I have gotten an error for4 some reason. it happened when I played cards and it didn't add to the score. so I used another mod to give me splash. and when I scored a pair, this happened

[acoustic vine]

?

[shrewd talon]

yeah I really need someone to focus on making it so cards actually give points cause it makes the mod unplayable

[dawn void]

i am stuck on this screen anything i can do?

[pale isle]

Go on choose one

[lime ridge]

iirc this situation is usually caused by reloading mid-pack, but if it wasn't, that'd be the first thing I'd try
if it doesn't work I'm out of ideas

[subtle nova]

I belive you can eval out of this with DebugPlus

I'd have to find the command

eval G.STATE = G.STATES.BLIND_SELECT should work I belive

[tepid raft]

Technically does exist, you can download it through the Refactor tree if you want the early alpha. Expect bugs and things to still be broken though, as MathIsFun has said, it'll be properly finished soon. You can find the Refactor tree here: https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/tree/refactor

[civic acorn]

Bountiful Sleeve is no longer working.
What is said, I discarded twice, and it's no longer drawing 5 total cards. This is from newest Code release of Cryptid, as well as Galdur and CardSleeves.

[clear hare]

Try the refactor branch

[tepid raft]

The Refactor branch can be found here, it's still Alpha but is mostly playable:
https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/tree/refactor

[edgy sable]

Hello my cryptid mod is not allowing for chip counting and crashes soon after?

[tepid raft]

Do you know if you're using the Old_Calc version of Steammodded, or is it the newest Master branch? If it's the newest Master branch then try the refactor above.

[edgy sable]

mine says 2.1.0~dev so I think its the new master branch?

[tepid raft]

I meant Steamodded, it should be on the main Balatro page. 1.0.0~ALPHA-1314D-STEAMODDED I believe is the newest (as I updated it earlier), and the Refactor should say 0.5.3c.

[edgy sable]

ooohh mine says 1313f?

Is it an outdated one then?

[tepid raft]

Slightly, however you then do need to ensure you use the Refactor branch as you'll be useing the BetterCalc version of Steamoded. The newer Steamoded breaks the standard Cryptid right now due to code changes.

[edgy sable]

so get the new steammodded and the refractor branch then?

[civic acorn]

I'm still sticking to OldCalc until most of the main mods are updated, so it's good to know it's part of that, but I can wait.

[tepid raft]

Yes, however it may break some other mods if you use a lot of mods if they weren't already updated for BetterCalc. You're best just going for the Old_Calc version of Steamoded at the moment if you've got loads of mods.

[stark charm]

So, where do we even get the old_calc version? I'm trying to solve this little mystery myself, but I don't even know what I'm doing at this point

[edgy sable]

I only have cryptid, talisman and maybe thinking of cardsauce

[tepid raft]

If you download the newest official Release version from the GitHub page: https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/releases/tag/v0.5.3a

That's the newest OldCalc version of Cryptid. If you want the OldCalc version of Steamodded then you can find it here:
https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/refs/tags/old-calc.zip

[tepid raft]

You should be okay with the newer BetterCalc version, however I do know that it's still very early in the development stages for BetterCalc.

[edgy sable]

i see, thxx

Ill need to delete and re put in the other mods right?

[tepid raft]

Yes, you're always best to delete the older versions and replace them. I would also ensure that Talisman is the latest Master version too, which can be found here: https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Talisman/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

[winter lintel]

hello there.\

this seems to be the most famous of the mods that I saw on yt.

[tepid raft]

That's as honestly, it is one of the best ones. I highly recommend it to anyone. 😃

[winter lintel]

huh.

I presume steam version of Balatro is able to take in Cryptid mod right?

the question is, How do I even Impliment it?

[tepid raft]

Yes, you first have to download the Lovely injector from here: https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector/releases/tag/v0.6.0
Then follow the above steps for Steamoded (I'd suggest the newest Master) then the Cryptid Mod from the Refactor branch (although it is still Alpha) as well as the newest Talisman mod. This way you'll get the most up to date versions of the mods. If you need any more help, please feel free to ask. The Lovely injector is indeed classed as a virus however it's a false positive due to it being a memory editing injector.

[winter lintel]

well this is interesting

[edgy sable]

sorry, just need clarification, I should get the bettercalc versions of steammodded, talisman, cryptid, cardsauce (if its available) and the refractory thing, but even then stuff may be broken?

[tepid raft]

Don't worry about it, it's a false positive due to it accessing the games memory to mod it.

[winter lintel]

ooooh

[tepid raft]

Yes, that's correct. CardSauce should be already on the BetterCalc version of Steamodded. 😄

[winter lintel]

lol

ok got the .dll

can...you guide me through this?

I....Rather be able to do this without having any errors

and Im not that confident that I can do this first try.

[tepid raft]

So the version.dll goes into the main Balatro game folder, you can use Steam to access that folder. Then your mods will go into %appdata%/Roaming/Balatro/Mods/.

[winter lintel]

So this is the game folder, I place the Version.dll in this folder specifically?

yes, Im autistic, and will ask questions alot about the process, forgive me

[tepid raft]

Yes, exactly in there. 😄 You should also be able to copy this %appdata%/Roaming/Balatro and paste it into the Windows Explorer Address bar and it'll direct you into the other folder you'll need, where you'll then create a new folder called Mods and that's where you'll extract the zip files for the mods. You'll however have to delete any tag normally -main from the newly extracted folders.

Also don't worry, I'm also partly autistic so I try to explain in the best ways possible. Secondly, the only dumb questions are the ones left unasked.

[winter lintel]

eyy thanks. So to simplify:
Place Version.dll in Game folder.
Go into Appdata/roaming/balatro, Create mods folder there (like: Mods)
then proceed to next step when directed.

[tepid raft]

Exactly that. You'll find that when you download the mods, they'll be in a zip archive, so these will need extracted.

[winter lintel]

Minor correction on Appdata search:
%appdata% defaults to Appdata/Roaming

at least on the version of windows I run

[tepid raft]

Even better then. 🤣 I use Linux hence don't tend to do the whole shortcut stuff. 🤣 So yes, inside that you'll see the Balatro folder, then you'll create the new Mods folder in there.

[winter lintel]

This?

yes I censored my name, It's safety reasons

[tepid raft]

Yes, create your new Mods folder there. So you'll next need:
https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/refs/heads/main.zip
https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Talisman/archive/refs/heads/main.zip
https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/archive/refs/heads/refactor.zip
Which you'll then unzip into that newly created folder. I've already ensured that you've got the newest versions in those links. Secondly, don't worry about the censoring, I understand that too, can never be too secure online.

[winter lintel]

Right step 2.
Download these 3 links as shown above.
Unzip all 3 folders into the newly created Mods folder IN appdata.

[tepid raft]

The new Mods folder should be in this folder that you've shown here.

[winter lintel]

Ok let me show that I did that

[tepid raft]

Did you get your mods fixed? Just checking in on you, so you know I've not forgotten about you.

[winter lintel]

does it need to be captialized or lowercased or is it fine as is?

[tepid raft]

That's fine as it is, so you'll extract those three downloaded files into that new Mods folder, ensuring that if there's anything like -main in the folder, that it's renamed to remove that part.

[winter lintel]

got it. all -main goes.

[edgy sable]

in the preocess, how does the the refractor get installed too?

[tepid raft]

I do also recommend that you use something like 7-Zip to extract the .zip files to ensure that they do extract properly. I don't particularly trust Windows to unzip them properly.

[winter lintel]

ah. well-

It seems to work?

[tepid raft]

So you can install it into the same folder that your current Cryptid installation is in, however you'll need to delete the entire contents of the folder first, or just delete the Cryptid folder, then install it into your normal Mods folder.

[hallow sail]

does anyone know what license this mod is under

[tepid raft]

Yep, exactly like that. So you'll now rename to remove the -refactor and the -main parts, then you'll have it fully installed. You'll know if it works as when you boot Balatro, you'll see the DOS Terminal, then it'll boot into your Steamodded Balatro, and you'll see the new Mods menu.

[tepid raft]

I actually don't however I'd ask inside the official Cryptid Mod Discord.

[winter lintel]

like this?

yeah, file explorer just adjusted it to be alphabetical...

[tepid raft]

Yep, exactly like that. You can now boot the game as normal, and it should be modded. You can also install other mods into that folder by doing the exact same method, this is also the same with updating mods, however you'll delete the originally installed folder for that specific mod before installing the new version. If you need any further help in the future, feel free to add me and I can guide you through it all in the future. 👍

[winter lintel]

woah

so uh...it works

[tepid raft]

You'll obviously have to re-setup your profile, however it'll now allow you to play Cryptid mod - (The Hidden Card).

[winter lintel]

right....I havent really...set it up at all lol...and I think Im on madness.

annnd I found a way to crash it

immediately.

here's the full code.

[edgy sable]

I got this trying to open a standard pack

huh, seems to be when i eneable the scoring thing

on talisman

[tepid raft]

I did state that the Refactor version of the mod is still in Alpha, hence lots of stuff may currently be broken. If you want to report the issue then you can do so in the Cryptid Mod Discord: https://discord.gg/eUf9Ur6RyB
However as I say, the issue is due to the newer Steamodded releases which changed a lot of how it works. Hence a lot of mods are still in the process of being re-written/developed to fix the issues the newer Steamodded has caused. A lot of this is due to different variables being changed to allow for the new BetterCalc to work properly. I'd recommend reporting the issues in the Cryptid Mod Discord so their developers can actually assist.

[winter lintel]

did I seriously join at a bad time?

or mod my game at a bad time I mean

[tepid raft]

Not really, it's the start of a new generation in the modding scene, hence why the mods are kinda playing catchup. I know all of the mod devs are working hard to fix any issues and create new releases, it wouldn't surprise me if they release another update in the next few days.

[winter lintel]

ooooh ok.

Well, I still might've timed it bad.

dang.

[tepid raft]

I tend to think of it more as having a Nightly style build. I know it's bound to have some issues right now, but I know the mod developers are doing their best to ensure everything works with the new BetterCalc functionality.

[winter lintel]

oooh So should I have gone back to an earlier build or would that have messed things up?

[tepid raft]

You could, however I do think most of the issues should be fixed properly by the end of the week for Cryptid from what I've read. As I say, it's a difficult time to judge what's for the best. You could always revert back to the OldCalc versions, but you'd probably end up having to update later on in the week (maybe next week latest), hence why I've stated to try the newest builds. You can always check here for the latest Git commits from the team: https://discord.com/channels/1264429948970733782/1267174638136590456

[winter lintel]

nvm they're telling me to stay on Old Calc.

So got the file

just a simple fix ig

[tepid raft]

Just be sure to follow the OldCalc version from here: #1219749193204371456 message

[tepid raft]

I seen Nova sorted you out, that's awesome. 👍 You know what to do with those now, yet if you need more help just ping me.

[winter lintel]

alright thats fine

@tepid raft helllp

[tepid raft]

Did you ensure you deleted the installed versions of Steamodded and Cryptid before installing the older versions? If yes, then replace your current Talisman with this version: https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Talisman/releases/download/v2.0.2/Talisman.zip
This might help to fix the issue, as the version I'd linked to earlier was from the Master branch.

[winter lintel]

looks like this rn\

which is your file....which had all 3 folders.

[tepid raft]

Yes, so you've already replaced the Cryptid and the Steamodded folders, so do the same with the Talisman folder which is the post above this one. That'll ensure you have the latest Stable / Release builds.

[winter lintel]

OK didn't crash on me yet

I think that it is fixed

I think for now I shall stay on the Old Calc.

[tepid raft]

Glad to hear it. Just remember this one thing: Whenever there's a new mod update, ALWAYS delete the currently installed mod folder for that mod. If you just replace the files inside, you'll end up breaking something. 🧹 No worries, I'm glad it's fixed things for you anyway. I'm probably just too impatient to do that. 🤣

[winter lintel]

ahhh ok

hey btw? I think if I just continue on Old Calc for a long while, I think I should be fine anyways

so that when the New calc finally settles in full, I can reinstall all of the files, and well...

enjoy a new Cryptid

[winter lintel]

on another note, want to watch me play cryptid?

[tepid raft]

I'm actually heading off for a bit, sorry. Yet yes, you're right in that sense, give it a month or two and it'll probably have settled down a lot and people will be running the BetterCalc versions. I'm just glad you've got it working well now, as honestly Cryptid is one of the best mods out there. Couple it with Ortalab in the future and you'll have a pretty epic experience. 😉

[winter lintel]

Ortalab in the future...

The combo of those mods...

The Yin of Cryptid...
The Yang of Ortalab...

ah.

[tepid raft]

Placing this here just encase anyone new has issues with the mod crashing the game: #1264430590527012924 message

[rare kiln]

Is there a way to uh... make the amount of calculations easier for my computer to handle? I uh. might have gotten over 3 million calculations and bricked my ability to continue

Or is the name of the game now just to minimize calcs and maximize score

[lime ridge]

there's probably ways to optimize your build for less calcs per score, but i don't know what they are :v

[merry zenith]

simple xmult

not these builds I keep seeing where people have like 200 jokers and they all interact with each other, and cards are being retriggered 5000 times

they are ofc hard to acquire, but the epic and exotic jokers in cryptid are individually powerful for the most part

[rare kiln]

I probably shouldn't have used Canvas to retrigger my 120+ strong m stack 12 additional times to trigger my ^7 mult glitched Universe repeatedly on my 7 red seal echo astral 2's.

[lime ridge]

probably! :D

[rare kiln]

I should have paid more attention to the achievement that popped up with Canvas was obtained...

[merry zenith]

it’s usually pretty easy to tell how much calculating you’re about to face whilst you’re making your build

[rare kiln]

You'd think that, but I am ✭~stupid~✭

[merry zenith]

playing on higher stakes helps too ofc

makes it more difficult to optimize your build and get to the real top tier scores

[rare kiln]

I was on stake 16 lol

getting compound interest early makes everything possible

[river pawn]

i tried reading around too see if this was a known bug, but for some reason all M jokers and all Jolly Jokers immediately crash my game when any card is scored, no crash report or anything- does anyone know why this might be happening?

i actually removed the M joker, and got this crash when playing my hand instead- might help learning about it

[fading stratus]

hey i cant get the lov dll to download due to the virus prots how do i get around that? it kinda frustrating me

[steel rapids]

it's in the wiki iirc

the lovely wiki, anyway

[candid sail]

Is there a wip build for better calc? looking into making cardsauce compatible with cryptid and i wanna run both at the same time for testing purposes

[clear hare]

Use the refactor branch on GitHub

[candid sail]

ah yeah i tried that, it did seem to work better

i also looked into the mod compatibility guide thing but is there a full list of globals that i need to add to_big to for comparisons?

[abstract vessel]

trying to figure this out

crashes on starting a run

[abstract vessel]

nvm, fixed it by installing an older steamodded version

[real zinc]

this removed the entire point of the mod but imagine someone saying “Intentionally balanced Cryptid mod”
(i mean that the concepts are actually pretty cool but are super unbalanced (which is the whole fun of the mod) and i would like to see those if they were balanced)

[raven wedge]

balanced cryptid soon™️

(/srs)

[silver cobalt]

Theres a gameset system that will be somewhat vanilla balanced

[lime inlet]

i mean the point of cryptid isn't the fact it is unbalanced, that's just an expected consequence of the actual point: a mod that gave people the freedom to explore very interesting and out-of-the-box concepts that didn't have to fit in line with vanilla standards

that's why there's a limit to how "unbalanced" an idea can be despite the (misleading) namesake of the mod

[clear hare]

I treat “unbalanced” more as “gimmicky” now

[wanton carbon]

well dang better change the vanity link

discord.gg/gimmicky

[clear hare]

I wish discord.gg/ cryptid wasn't taken

[merry zenith]

discord.gg/amodthatgavepeoplethefreedomtoexploreveryinterestingandout-of-the-boxconceptsthatdidn’thavetofitinlinewithvanillastandards

[subtle nova]

Just take discord.gg/ cryptidm

[still venture]

running into this awful bug that I cant really tell the cause for

Im going to assume its cryptid cause it usually is

but I random just stop being able to click on anything

wondering if anyone else has run into this before

like I can pause the game and select menu options

but nothign I do in the game does anything

[tepid raft]

I'm going to take a guess that you're probably trying to use the newest master version of Steamodded? If you're using the OldCalc version, ensure that you get the newest Master from the Cryptid GitHub page.

[still venture]

swapping to the newest version does not fix it

ill try using old calc and updating cryptid

[tepid raft]

So if you're trying to use the BetterCalc version, it's actually this version of Cryptid (however it's still in very early stages, so expect crashes): https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/archive/refs/heads/refactor.zip

[still venture]

is bettercalc just the newest release of smods?

[tepid raft]

So the BetterCalc is the newest Master releases of Smodded, you can learn a little more about it here: https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki

[still venture]

updating cryptid did not fix it

must be something else

it sucks cause theres no crash so I have no information on what it is

[tepid raft]

Please ensure that when you move to the Refactor branch that you delete the original Cryptid mod folder entirely, then replace it with what's inside the Refactor zip. This will ensure that you're not accidentally mixing the version files leading to a crash.

[still venture]

I just deleted the old cryptid folder and replace it with the new crytid folder

[tepid raft]

So it's still crashing on launch? Have you got the log from inside the lovely folder at all?

[still venture]

no it isnt crashing

thats the problem

when I load into my run I cannot click on anything

and there isnt a crash, so I have no information on whats happening

and the console doesnt really help

[tepid raft]

Yet there should still be a log inside the lovely folder for the latest run, as lovely should always create a log once the game is booted. 😉 It might be able to provide a little more information, there could even possibly be a crash dump inside it's dump folder (even if you don't notice a crash screen).

[still venture]

this is all I get

im not smart enough to understand this lol

[turbid current]

hey i'm looking to try cryptid, do i need to somehow backup my save file incase something bad happens? or am i fine

[still venture]

you can make another profile if youre worried about that

click on the little p1 in the bottom left of the main menu

[turbid current]

yeah but there's no risk of magically losing all save files right? lol

[still venture]

there shouldnt be lol

[turbid current]

alright thanks

[still venture]

I mean you can always back up if youd like to

[turbid current]

i have 0 clue about mods so just asking

[still venture]

its always good practice to do so before modding any game

[turbid current]

true

[tepid raft]

Okay so I've noticed that you're trying to use Jen's pack, it's currently unsupported in the current BetterCalc state. I believe that may be why your game is crashing.

[still venture]

removing that does not fix it

im just really confused cause I literally just am using the modpack a friend sent me

and theyve never run into this before

[tepid raft]

You can always take a backup of the full Balatro Save folder, which is the folder that you install the "Mods" folder into. This can be good practice, however just remember that even updating mods to different versions CAN sometimes cause issues.

[tepid raft]

Ahh okay, do you know what the modpack was that you've used? I do however believe that it'll probably be an OldCalc build, so you'd need to get your Steamodded version from here: https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/refs/tags/old-calc.zip
Although technically you shouldn't need to update anything from the pack provided if it's created for the current version of Balatro, as it should in theory contain the newest versions of the mods (if your friend created the modpack themselves it'd be the save versions they have which you'd have installed).

[still venture]

yeah its just a collection of mods they put together

Im using OldCalc

its just that Im having constant crashes and bugs like this, but them using the same pack isnt

so it has to be something wrong with something other than the mods

[tepid raft]

Okay, my suggestion is to ensure that you've got the latest version of the game, and that you verify the files. Try using 7-Zip to extact the archive, and ensure that if any mod folder contains -main that you delete that part.

[cerulean gate]

anyone else running into the issue of using the payload code crashing the game?

[tepid raft]

Are you using the latest Main version of Cryptid from here?
https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

[cerulean gate]

yes

I am also using talisman idk if that has anything to do with it

[tepid raft]

Depends on if it's the Main or the Release that you've got. If it's the Main then it could in theory create issues, however it should still work. I'd stick with the Release version for now if you're using OldCalc versions of Steamodded.

[cerulean gate]

I don't really know what the difference is. I have the main. I decided to lower the max score limit back to the default to see if that fixes it but it reset my run 😅

[tepid raft]

Yes, it will do as it obviously has to change how it scores your run. At the moment the dev team for Cryptid is testing and developing the new BetterCalc version (Refactor Branch) which will support the newest Steamodded and Talisman changes.

[cerulean gate]

changing the max score limit didn't fix the payload code crashing my game unfortunately. how do I get the release version?

[tepid raft]

Talisman Release: https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Talisman/releases/tag/v2.0.2
Steamodded OldCalc: https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/refs/tags/old-calc.zip
Cryptid Release (Main Branch): https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

[cerulean gate]

Thank you very much

[tepid raft]

You're welcome, also make sure that you join us on the official Cryptid Discord too. 👍

[candid sail]

can you link that? would like to join

[tepid raft]

https://discord.com/invite/eUf9Ur6RyB

[golden wraith]

this mod is awesome

[gritty acorn]

I found an interesting bug, not matter how many times I try, the spaguetti always creates parking no matter what

[tall quartz]

anyone know why the anti-matter deck crashes my game the moment the run starts?

something about attempting to perform arithmetic field or smth

[kind river]

Oh. As a matte rof testing: create a new separate profile. Unlock everything on it from profile pgae setting, try on that profile

I had arithmetic errors on original profile, probably because of corruptions from previous mods, no errors of this kind on same mods on fresh profile

[idle scaffold]

Has anyone else had an issue where their cards don't score at all while using this mod? Hands can be played just fine but it will just return the base score value for the hand.

[grim shard]

#1219749193204371456 message ?

[brave ibex]

Parking is the fallback xd so either you deleted every food joker or something is up

[short sonnet]

probably not delete because encoded deck

[idle scaffold]

Switching to oldcalc worked, ty

[clear hare]

The fact that we have parking as the fallback and not something like Gros Michel is hilarious lol

[short sonnet]

jevonn fallbacks are very interesting

[gritty acorn]

Also strange thing is

It happens on every run that I try

I tried on 50 different seeds

and its always parking lmao

[soft night]

make consume-able the fallback

[gritty acorn]

So is my mod broken or my game broken?

[lime ridge]

every run, or every run on the code deck?

[gritty acorn]

Every run on the code deck

[lime ridge]

so something about the code deck blocking jokers from the shop is extending to spaghetti

[cold siren]

are there any infinite loops or did i just cook too hard

because im at 50k calcs and not a single card has scored

[lime ridge]

you probably cooked too hard
50k is on the low end of overly large calculation numbers

[cold siren]

yeah thats doubled now

do i just run it overnight or something lmao

[tall quartz]

did that, same thing happens

new fresh profile save

[midnight python]

Uh

Saphire Stake has a missing column of pixels

Maybe it's already fixed in the latest commit though

[pale isle]

Mb i got hungry

I eated the pixels

[astral sphinx]

am I cooked?

[graceful quartz]

Whenever I play a hand on the medium blind, my game crashes

often times before that

No matter what deck

[cold linden]

same issue as you here
whenever i play a hand on big blind it crashes

[cold linden]

figured it out!
you gotta remove ur smods-main and use another one

i can't send it to you on discord since its too big

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/archive/refs/tags/old-calc.zip

it worked for me

[graceful quartz]

Thank you!!

[cold linden]

did it work?

[graceful quartz]

Yep!

It was probably somwhere in the installation instructions that i missed lol

[cold linden]

good to hear

[crimson terrace]

Hi, I just got this issue on my run, it's happening when i click next round to exit the shop, and when checking the blinds on run info too, so my only guess is the error has to do with the blinds. Don't know if this has occurred to anyone before

I even disabled all other other mods other than cryptid and talisman (they were only texture changes, but just to see if it worked) and it still gives the same issue

[oblique folio]

i dont know if this is good

[strange oxide]

that's just lag

[oblique folio]

ik

im playing a flush 45 of a kind with 100 jokers

id expect lag

[still venture]

I love modded balatro

[strong narwhal]

i HATE modded balatro!!!

[lime ridge]

I'm okay with modded balatro ⚖️

[clear hare]

I :cryptidm: modded balatro

[azure sapphire]

Why does Tredecim now need space to make jokers? That just feels so boring :(

[strange oxide]

I modded balatro

[still venture]

gotten to the point where I cant even comprehend what is happening

because it seems like every time one of the exponentia is scored it like, makes the number go down lol

[silver void]

hardest boss blind:

[still venture]

for context im on like

ante -180

[raven roost]

hey i'm getting pretty frequent crashes

is any of this stuff outdated?

[subtle nova]

Steamodded is probably too new for cryptid version

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki follow the installation instructions but make sure you get old-calc

[raven roost]

Works now, thanks!

[jolly fjord]

im still getting game crashes after getting the old-calc file :(

[sudden wing]

i may have messed up

its been like, 10 minutes

it JUST finished scoring the first ace

had like 20 bucks before this round

Day 13: the second ace has finished scoring

if my math is right its scoring each ace 3082 additional times

oh good lord i have an echo ace

Day 600: third ace finished scoring. i have no concept of chips. what is a chip. what am i.

the fourth ace is done

phew, thought i wasnt gonna make that blind honestly

[sudden wing]

i hate krusty the clown

[sudden wing]

hmmm

[primal viper]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-meme-memes-reads-letter-gif-20713760

[sudden wing]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[primal viper]

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-side-eye-gif-2494377436836421971

[sudden wing]

oh there we go

[primal viper]

how can one achieve this

[sudden wing]

oh

the hiker

:)

[primal viper]

average cryptid moment

[sudden wing]

loopy is being copied twice

[primal viper]

what

[sudden wing]

:)

according to this sapling i just got from the shop before this round, i scored this single ace 1303 times

also uhhhhhh

[primal viper]

how much time did you put into this game

[sudden wing]

negative deck go brrrrrr

im only on round 22

[primal viper]

"only" may be an overstatement

[sudden wing]

:)

the game doesnt seem to enjoy whats going on this round

oh this is the ace now

[primal viper]

so that specific ace gets triggered like 1300 times

and with each trigger it gets upgraded?

[sudden wing]

yup

[primal viper]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-creature-tbh-creature-autism-creature-autism-yippee-gif-9776368627129803283

[sudden wing]

10 times

[primal viper]

dear god

[sudden wing]

or i guess 100?

[primal viper]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[sudden wing]

no wait just 10

[primal viper]

oh ok

[sudden wing]

im not copying the loopy actually

wait no i am

its hard to tell whats going on at this point

30 times

brainstorm is copying the old blueprint which is copying the loopy

so every joker retriggers 10 times

idk if that means the brainstorm and the old blueprint also get retriggered ?

which would be

a

lot

of retriggers

[strange oxide]

they would if they were copying something else. retriggers don't retrigger retriggers

-# how many retriggers would a retriggerer retrigger if a retriggerer could retrigger retriggers?

[sudden wing]

oh thank god

this poor clock boss blind

its gone up from like, 4 mil to 20 mil while ive been waiting for this to finish

[jagged garden]

At least 2

[sudden wing]

cutting it a little close

[primal viper]

oh that was close

[sudden wing]

its still going

from the time i posted that screenshot to now its gone up to this

idol moment

at what point do i kill this run

[strange oxide]

never™️

[sudden wing]

[primal viper]

i would have say naninf but talisman

[sudden wing]

when does naninf even occur

[primal viper]

around ante 30 i think?

[sudden wing]

guh

e563 at this point

still going

after that first aces debacle i decided itd be a good idea to grab that x16 mod

i wish there was a x100 setting

update:

send help

[gleaming hill]

is there maybe a list of compatible mods with cryptid?

tryna make a modpack

[primal viper]

talisman has a setting that skips the entire scoring animation

it's useful when it takes 3 hours to play only one handd

[primal viper]

i don't think there is one :/

[gleaming hill]

alr ty still

[sudden wing]

oh

that wouldve been nice to know

3 hours ago

[jagged garden]

@gleaming hill

[primal viper]

oh mb

there was a list

[sudden wing]

turned talisman on and uh

i wouldve been waiting a WHILE

also sold a few more jolly jokers this time

its still calculating

there we go

[primal viper]

holy shit

i remember one time there was a e in my e

[silver void]

can i copy the code to allow negatives to be ttaken with 0 slots left?

[stark charm]

How does one get that many Jolly Jokers? (And how is M Stack picking up 4.5? Isn't it normally 3?)

[lime ridge]

I'm guessing smoothie

[orchid crane]

ended with a level 36 billion high card

[loud heron]

im sorry how the fuck

[oblique folio]

how long did this take you