Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]

[hazy slate]

fsir, lol

let's just say that 17tb is an absoliute shitton of storage (especially for a laptop) abd it's not considered good practiced to use mismatched sticks of ram, which is the only way to get anywhjere near 47gb

I think I actually have 50gb instaled and some of it is just reserved for something in the OS

or maybe just 48

[hazy slate]

(with 4 ram slots at least)

[weak burrow]

I mean at this point with the prices of storage it ain't that uncommon

Just a nas with some drives and you're set

Also I'm sure that 17tb isnt local

[hazy slate]

Nerp it is. And all SDDs too

[weak burrow]

At this point the storage will cost more than the laptop

[hazy slate]

It did. But I've been collecting the storage for years

And transferring it between new laptops

[civic acorn]

W

[clear hare]

m, actually

[civic acorn]

It's a reversed Jolly Joker, so the opposite of m is w.

[civic acorn]

Codex Umbra.
Spectral Cards have doubled effects and no downsides when applicable.
(What rarity would this be suited to? And is there any thoughts about this?)

[strong narwhal]

it is real, just (from what ive heard) so bad for performance that it isn't worth it

[remote locust]

define downside.

[civic acorn]

No -1 hand size on Ectoplasm/Ouija, no setting your money to 0 on Wraith, etc.

And it's based off of this: https://dontstarve.wiki.gg/wiki/Codex_Umbra
https://dontstarve.wiki.gg/images/thumb/d/df/Codex_Umbra_Dropped.png/300px-Codex_Umbra_Dropped.png

[remote locust]

Wraith isn't necesrrily a downside

if u r in debt

[civic acorn]

Yes, but in most other cases, it's not worth nuking your money/consumables for a random Rare.

[remote locust]

consumeables?

[civic acorn]

Wait...I just realized the Codex Umbra has an M on it. I could've done something with Jolly, and I didn't. 🤦‍♂️

[strong narwhal]

what does money have to do with consumables lol

[civic acorn]

Money, sorry, it's late for me.

[civic acorn]

Okay, I can't not take advantage of this.

Codex Umbra (Revised).

Spectral Cards no longer trigger their downsides, and retrigger once for every 5 Jolly/M Jokers you have.

[remote locust]

aura adds multiple editions?

or just ovverides. repeatedly

[civic acorn]

Probably triggers on random cards after the 1st, or it could add multiple if the mod supports that.

[strong narwhal]

would be funny if you could have multiple editions on the same card

[snow rivet]

So uh... is public edit access on the suggestion boxes supposed to be turned off? Doesn't that kinda defeat the purpose of a suggestion box?

[near vessel]

i know this question has probably been asked already before but im lowk paranoid, is lovely injector 100% safe? 😭

[hazy slate]

yes

it "is" a trojan in the sense that it injects code into the balatro exe at runtime, but it's not malicious code

[vestal seal]

if it wasn't the devs would have been banned by now

you're good

[near vessel]

okok 🙏 again im just paranoid when my pc is saying smth is a virus LMAO

[hazy slate]

fair enough tbh

luckily I use linux, which isn't immune to viruses or anything, but people don't really need or use AV software on it (though big organizations/corpros that use linux presumably do)

[glossy zenith]

Just to add a bit more chaos to things, there should be a Joker that triggers something every time ^Mult is used (like Exponentia).

[summer cargo]

finally. superexponentia

[vapid turtle]

reason why pc says lovely is a virus is because it works like a trojan

though its code is entirely innocuous

[granite ibex]

oh yeah Mercury, which upgrades Pair, starts with an M

[near vessel]

yeye i gotcha, i do have a quick question (albeit maybe a stupid one); is it easy to uninstall and get rid of?

[vapid turtle]

I think so?

[deep kite]

You just delete the dll

[broken birch]

I crashed the Mod by retriggering M, Weebonaci, and Eternal Flame with Loopy. 10/10 would crash again.

[broken birch]

Anyway, new Boss Blind Idea:
The Flop: Enhancements and Seals have no effect.

[glossy zenith]

If you're gonna do that, then might as well add in The Turn and The River.

[echo jacinth]

what is this, poker? no, this is big 2.

[civic acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209506360987877408/1290382417785389196/1264608587821482115.gif

Whoever made this deserves a reward.

[clear hare]

It’s Grassy iirc

Jimball was a meme before being added to Cryptid, that’s where it comes from

[civic acorn]

Oki. 👍

[north nebula]

What are valid enhancements for entering in the code card?

[wanton carbon]

bonus, mult, steel, gold, those kinds of things

[clear hare]

Just those from vanilla and Cryptid, we plan to add mod support later :)

[glacial egret]

Good news , I figured out what was causing the previous crash screen for the mod download, bad news I got a new one

[subtle nova]

upgrade steamodded or downgrade lovely to v0.5.0-beta6

[glacial egret]

Ok so how do I downgrade lovely?

(For clarification this is my first time downloading a mod lmao)

[north nebula]

https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector/releases/tag/v0.5.0-beta6

[glacial egret]

That wouldn’t happen to be this would it?

The top one I mean

[hazy slate]

It has the same filename regardless of which beta it is

But yeah that's what it'll be

[glacial egret]

Ok so I think I ALRDY have it then?

[hazy slate]

You probably have beta 7

Why I said the first part

[glacial egret]

auto correct decided my alrdy is caplized lmao

Ok

So do I delete the old one?

[hazy slate]

Yeah

[glacial egret]

Ok so I found beta 6, so do I go through thr same process for it?

Also side question, why exactly does beta 7 not work for me?

[wary aurora]

for some reason my game is saying that i need "missing dependencies! talisman 2.00 beta" idk what this means

[brave ibex]

it means you don't have talisman or the verison of talisman you have is outdated

[wary aurora]

thank you very much good sir

it worked

[upper veldt]

you have no idea how many times i got that code card

and thought it was editions and not enhancements

and tried to type polychrome

and it didnt work

[manic maple]

btw did you know you can type "nil" in that code card and it deletes the selected card

[upper veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/ramlethal-burger-borger-gif-20429004

[soft night]

it gets better.
try typing "ccd"

[upper veldt]

i'm gonna be disappointed if I type in m and it doesn't turn into jolly joker

[soft night]

do that with variable

[upper veldt]

what

[soft night]

do that with variable

[meager sphinx]

the nil...

its REAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

NIL CARDS GENERATED BY THE JEN WALTER JOKER IS REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[upper veldt]

damn

[manic maple]

i did not know about the ccd and m ones

i should've expected the m one at least

[glacial egret]

Can’t download beta version 6 for some reason

(I was told by somone else that I needed to downgrade beta 7 to beat 6 since beta 7 wasn’t working)

[teal plover]

i'm actually getting tired of that joke

[neon kraken]

nil_joke_trigger = 0
if nil_joke == true then
nil_joke_trigger = nil_joke_trigger + 1
if nil_joke_trigger >= 1000 then
fun = nil
end
end

[ember tulip]

hey so when i installed cryptid it gave me an error on bootup

Oops! The game crashed:
main.lua:1387: attempt to call a nil value

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1g-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~ALPHA-0927a-STEAMODDED
Love2D Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.5.0-beta6

Stack Traceback

(3) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 1387
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x3ea9e1a0 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x3ea9e1c8 (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(6) global C function 'xpcall'
(7) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

[exotic sorrel]

got a bunch of empowered tags but they just offer random spectrals

[strong narwhal]

update cryptid

[exotic sorrel]

This should be the latest version

0.5.0

I downloaded it today

[strong narwhal]

don't download the release version download the latest version

click code then download zip

[exotic sorrel]

uh where's that

[solemn lintel]

is Normal open to extract that spam folder when open with winrar?

[strong narwhal]

on the github page

[fading maple]

um what the fuck!??

ok i forgive

[manic maple]

holy

even better

[lofty sandal]

I dont really understand how the hook code card works, what jokers can actually trigger other jokers and which can actually retrigger off it?

[civic acorn]

If a Hooked Joker triggers, and the other Joker can trigger in that scenario, it'll trigger that other Joker, and vice versa.

[manic maple]

any joker, they just need to trigger in the same context (ex. perkeo doesn't work if it's hooked with a scoring joker, but it does work with speculo)

[civic acorn]

For example, Brainstorm and that 1 Exotic that retriggers cards and gives XMult when they're scored. If they're Hooked and Brainstorm is copying that Exotic, it'll trigger each other.

[lofty sandal]

so basically I just have to hook "Blind" jokers with other "Blind" jokers, end of shop with other end of shop jokers, "start of blind" jokers with other "start of blind" jokers etc.?

could I hook brainstorm with blueprint?

[livid temple]

wow

almost 56000 messages

this thread has really grown

thats not really surprisign considering the bigness of the mod but

wow

is this the biggest thread

message 56000

[keen tulip]

https://x.com/etheireimagined/status/1841467399717208114

anika (@etheireimagined) on X

last night my game crashed here and i couldnt stop laughing

Twitter · Oct 2, 2024, 1:16 PM

edgeworth Ⓜ️

[clear hare]

M

[manic maple]

M

[wanton carbon]

why is edgeworth so shocked about 🇲

his eyes are about to pop out of their sockets like daMn

[teal plover]

someone quickly make a joker out of this

[echo compass]

i used ::/crash and didn't unlock anything

crash was different than last time lol

[strong narwhal]

this is beautiful

[wanton carbon]

tau is 2pi?

never knew that

[fading maple]

one day happy house will activate
that will be a good day

[wanton carbon]

my friend did it once

[cold sandal]

Happy House got me Double e Notation without Exotics

[broken thicket]

Mdgeworth Legendary
When you would lose the game, update the autopsy report restart your round but keep any score

[brazen falcon]

just got this mod and on my like third run got free rerolls, ive been here for an hour

does removing all stickers remove rigged and hooked? too scared to use it lol

[hazy slate]

Makes me think of Reverie. May she soon rise from the ashes anew

[brazen falcon]

reverie?

[hazy slate]

Was/is a mod with massive themed shops

[brazen falcon]

ooh that sounds sick

[hazy slate]

still incompatible with steamodded 1.0

but soon™️

[brazen falcon]

i see i see

do you know if rigged and hooked are stickers? sorry to ask again lol

[hazy slate]

https://dvrp-balatro-mods.pages.dev/reverie
If you're curious what we're all missing atm

[brazen falcon]

will check it out, ty

[hazy slate]

I don't play cryptid so I'm not sure

[brazen falcon]

ahh nw

[hazy slate]

i think they might be stickers though

[brazen falcon]

probably 😔

i got free rerolls though ill find em again

[granite ibex]

rigged and hooked are stickers

[brazen falcon]

😔

[brazen falcon]

wondering where to go from here

im thinking sell until im at 1 blueprint, 1 negative brainstorm, 1 canvas, 1 crustulum, 1 boredom, 2 googol play cards, 1 +64 one for all, and then sell my translucents?

ill keep a blender maybe

[brazen falcon]

is it at all possible to get legendaries without packs left in shop or regain packs in shop without going to the next round?

[brazen falcon]

oh sick pointer exists

[keen tulip]

Unboxing Video

[soft night]

Technically, they are, but effects that count stickers (mainly Lock) ignore them

[brazen falcon]

ive been decieved!

ty

[fading maple]

how you get number so big

[brazen falcon]

multiply go brr

[fading maple]

is that a code card?

[wanton carbon]

i think so yeah

[brazen falcon]

ye

doubles all the numbers on a joker

and then theres copy/paste which gives a 50/50 chance of giving you back a copy when you use a code card

[wanton carbon]

seed

[fading maple]

ledgendary pull holy shit

[granite ibex]

but what happens when you get to ante 10

[fading maple]

I win

it crashes

is this a bug?

game crashes if i play a hand

will this be fixed in next release?

[weak burrow]

i wonder why the game crashes

maybe the 6.4e37 retriggers has something to do with it

just maybe

[clear hare]

It’s patched if you play on a quantum computer

[remote locust]

quantum computers are actually worse at running balatro than classical ones

[cold sandal]

Nah, it's probably Triboulet

[hollow berry]

quantum computers can't even run doom

let alone bongatro

[wanton carbon]

just attach a tv to it obviously

[weak burrow]

I mean you're probably right

[strong narwhal]

ermmmm thats ackshually an uncommon not a legneadry...

[hazy slate]

bootleg Perfect Ballot

[hazy slate]

who plays every round? lol

[hollow berry]

Doodle M should be reworked to have the 2 and 1 become changeable values

[junior rivet]

Mmm, the last crash type is perfectly balanced...

[junior rivet]

On a totally unrelated note, I have just "won" on the Ascendant Stake on the Very Fair Deck... perfectly balanced.

[livid temple]

how the MUCK

[junior rivet]

I was hoping to have dropped enough hints, but I'll give you a hint: one of the effects of the Crash code card has the ability to basically make reality anything you want it to be.

I wouldn't count it as cheating if it's technically available in a developer intended way, but it allows you to "beat" some stakes... in a nonstandard way.

[clear hare]

Oh I thought you just used Crustulum lol

there’s also been some VFD Ascendant clears with that

CRASH is funnier though

[junior rivet]

I imagine a Cryptid Crash100% speedrun would essentially be a race to unlock the Source Deck, seed it with a favorable seed that guarantees an early Crash pull and is the right seed to cause the ACE crash and then a race to type in a (hopefully minimized) oneliner to achieve everything else.

[vocal plaza]

m

[junior rivet]

What's with this mod's obsession with Jolly Joker and the letter M by the way?

[civic acorn]

Some fella here kept spamming m, and when someone asked them what their least fav Joker was, they said Jolly Joker. The rest kinda wrote itself.

@lime inlet if the guy, if I remember correctly.

That being said,

𝓶 👅

[glacial egret]

I feel like I’m banging my head against a wall trying to download this mod 🫤

[subtle nova]

Did you check the pins?

[hollow berry]

m

[cold sandal]

m

[karmic bough]

Nobody noticed the title logo is off-centered??

[granite ibex]

that seems wrong

oh wait the entire thing is off what

[karmic bough]

it's been like this for a long time

[junior river]

has no one fixed that 💀

i think that was when i was making the banner for the banner contest

before adding it to cryptid officially

the balatro logo is actually 1.1 times bigger than normal

[karmic bough]

it's always been like this

[junior river]

or it might just be something else

[karmic bough]

i always wanna repoort on this but either forgor or wanna see if someone else notices that

[raven wedge]

lmao??

[short sonnet]

beeg logo

[karmic bough]

yeah probs this

[clear hare]

I’ve noticed the whole time

[karmic bough]

lmfao

So, will fix?

[junior river]

yep its the balatro logo scaling

literally just remove two lines of code and its done lol

[short sonnet]

no

it's offcenter despite those lines

[clear hare]

You probably have to move T.x

[short sonnet]

trying to figure out the correct t.x value yeah

[junior river]

its offcenter because the balatro logo is bigger im p sure?

[short sonnet]

brute force my beloved

G.title_top.T.x = G.title_top.T.x - 0.8

[junior river]

hopefully thats better?

[karmic bough]

nope

[short sonnet]

removing the scale and adding this line gives perfection

don't ask me why

[karmic bough]

why

[clear hare]

m

[civic acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-he-said-it-he-said-gif-5286270

[junior rivet]

Not having every exotic joker in the hand at the same time? Oh, puh-lease... I've pulled myself above such things.

[wanton carbon]

did you make 1 exotic, a bunch of Nostalgic Googol Play Cards, Copy/Paste seeded and just spammed commit until you got them all

[junior rivet]

Yeah, essentially. Getting Pointer on a card and having at least one Death or Cryptid somewhere is godly. You can use the initial Death/Cryptid to make 2/3 Pointer cards, have the Pointer card make more cryptids and essentially get infinite epic or lower cards, but yes, The Gateway is a good starter if you want exotics.

Frankly, you don't need the commit spam, but I wanted to have Tenebris first for the extra flexibility with the extra Joker slots.

[rough lynx]

Sooo, I was just showing my buddy crash, and I think its doing the thing, but idk how it works

The coding

[brave ibex]

enter any lua code

[rough lynx]

What if idk how to code in lua? lol

I literally used it just to show my buddy the game shutting down, and it worked instead. lol

[junior rivet]

Some helpful functions:
win_game(); - wins the current game
ease_dollars(amount); - gives you that much money
There's some other oneliner that I forgot that would give you a cryptid, a merge and a pointer to knock yourself out, but I forgot where I saved it

With chips like these... who needs mult?

Also, I'm deep in debt with no hopes of ever recovering

[upper veldt]

get the spectral that sets money to 0

[strong narwhal]

only way to do that with no money is spectral skips so

[upper veldt]

get skipping then

[upper veldt]

or god forbid you

use the seance effect

[strong narwhal]

how do you plan on buying seance with -433 dollars

[upper veldt]

idk you'll find a way

a betmma voucher? do you have those

[junior rivet]

No... I actually ended up losing the run there due to crimson heart, which targeted my only enabled joker after I sold all the chads

The hubris! The hubris!

Frankly, I might just want to cheese some decks with the ACE crash cheese, since I doubt actually hitting Ascendant is possible without it being a huge Crustulum grindfest.

[clear hare]

tbh at that point just write a script that gives you full completion and put it in the ACE prompt

[junior rivet]

Eh, I'm a little too dumb/lazy to actually reverse engineer the win_game() function to see what variables it sets to what values for saving. I just resorted to setting the deck and the stake and then just calling that function.

[clear hare]

Then you can for loop

[junior rivet]

You can, but wouldn't that generate a huge graphical mess/lag the game, since it'd generate all the win screen graphics?

[clear hare]

maybe

[thorn apex]

Hey so, I created a mod that heavily referenced this one for some parts. Is it ok for me to post my mod and if so how would you like to be credited? (I can dm the link to the mod repository, don't want to advertise it here without permission)

[hazy slate]

It's covered by the gpl anyway

But it's always polite to credit ofc (and I don't recall if it's a requirement of the gpl too)

[thorn apex]

Yeah, I just wanted to make sure everything was kosher still

[long veldt]

I've made a small mistake

oh my nopeus unsafe mode is actually so amazing though

[long veldt]

Why did I think the double tags from diet cola wouldn't be affected by the tag exotic

[glossy portal]

as soon as i do anything with my hand my game crashes could anyone help me?

[junior rivet]

read and try to comprehend the error from the error log

[glossy portal]

i dont have one-, ive looked for it

[junior rivet]

did you download talisman? Sometimes in a pinch the Windows Event Log can help, since it includes info on why applications crashed, etc.

[meager sphinx]

spam reroll, you have e6 cash

seeing youre at 23 fps id have to guess there are 2k-ish tags there?

[long veldt]

Maybe

[meager sphinx]

probs more, but with like 15 minutes of your time its doable

[long veldt]

I killed the game with 18k econ tags

[meager sphinx]

o7

[long veldt]

It looks like 1m an auto clicker + unsafe sped up in nopeus

Actually goated mod for that

[meager sphinx]

unsafe is honestly a lifesaver sometimes

it turns 2 minute scorings into 2 second ones

[junior rivet]

> be me
> 100th attempt at Misprinted Deck on Ascendant
> sees a cheap code pack on ante 1 with way too many cards and choices
> pointer
> googol play card
> seed
> googol play card
Balatro's sorest losers winners

[soft night]

kek

[strong narwhal]

how ascendant deck be

[junior rivet]

> be me
> Source Deck, Ascendant Stake, seed 1YCVA1WB
> plays big blind
> sees crash
> "hit me"
> ACE crash
> win_game();
Balatro's sorest losers winners

[glossy portal]

yeah i have, i recently updated the mods aswell but i have no clue about errors and stuff

[junior rivet]

aka "Playing hands to win a game of Balatro? Oh puh-lease... I've pulled myself above those things."

[glossy portal]

i didnt have an issue until i updated the mods

[mental tiger]

I like this mod :3

Just got it yesterday

[junior rivet]

right click the Start button on your taskbar, event viewer, in the window off to the left event viewer > windows event logs > either application or system
run the misbehaving application (in this case Balatro), wait for the process to die
in the top toolbar actions -> refresh
scroll through the recent events in either Application or System to see if anything's there that could be related

[upper veldt]

am i the only person who just doesn't use crash ever

[junior rivet]

crash is only useful in the 1/7th of cases where you get the ACE crash, otherwise it's just disappointment

the ACE crash is literally infinitely useful though

[upper veldt]

doesn't answer the question

[jagged garden]

I don't either

[junior rivet]

IDK how I'm supposed to answer for everyone else, but I use it always, since there's actual guardrails on the remaining 6 crash types to make it so that they're safe... well, there you go

well, maybe aside from the draw loop removal, there's always potential for you to click some buttons even though you don't see any effects

but yeah, alt+f4 is your friend in that case

[subtle nova]

be me
DebugPlus
hold tab
press win this run

[glossy portal]

there is nothing there, i even cleared the log and did it again

[junior rivet]

oh well, not everything reports there, missing DLLs would though, so presumably at least those are in place

hmm... well, I think I did my best for now, best ask the devs on the Cryptid Discord server

oh wait, I forgot

[glossy portal]

??

[junior rivet]

Do you have the latest version of Steammodded?

IIRC mods made for Steammodded 0.9.8 might be incompatible with Steammodded 1, best update that if you hadn't already

[glossy portal]

yeah, i think thats the one thing i didnt look into

i just did and nothing changed

[junior rivet]

You need to dump out the mods that were installed on 0.9.8, as those won't work anymore and might cause errors

I.e. just update them manually

that's my best guess anyways

[glossy portal]

i reinstalled all the mods after installing the steammodded update and it works now, thx

[broken birch]

anyone know why boredom is so crash-happy

it feels like it crashes the game if you as much as sneeze in its general direction

[clear hare]

Use 0.5.1

[broken birch]

ah, i'm behind a version, makes sense

thanks

...still am curious what the issue was if you'd be willing to share

[clear hare]

A bug with the bundled Steamodded version that caused Boredom to crash when triggered

I think because of joker retrigger API

[junior rivet]

now we're rolling, chat

[mental tiger]

I have a feeling that this is something I should know already, but how can I make this mod lag less?

[mental tiger]

Very baller

Should be an emote on the server imo

[wanton carbon]

it is

[hardy beacon]

If I had a nickel for every time I've gotten the tax boss on ante -1 I'd have 2 nickels

Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice

[broken birch]

funky

[mental tiger]

https://youtu.be/ax68rWI4Tuk?si=qKAcnqclGmAupfFl

[civic acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209506360987877408/1290382417785389196/1264608587821482115.gif

[broken birch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209506360987877408/1290382417785389196/1264608587821482115.gif?ex=67057c46&is=67042ac6&hm=c7a320cd54ea656a846b9f3fe23cf622ac483a79bd9f2fda04653c6477d937fc&

[mental tiger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209506360987877408/1290382417785389196/1264608587821482115.gif

Best gif

You can hear a low quality funky town playing faintly in the distance.

[clear hare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1215350889255272449/1248347515120648212/jimbRoll_2.gif

[junior rivet]

I think I've finally found a way to do it the way I like
you can overwrite the unlock_notify() function to just call win_game(), the unlock_notify() function gets called right after the game is set up normally and seems to just notify the player about unlocks

I just need to start the game once for every deck and once for every challenge

aka "Doing anything to win a game of Balatro? Oh, puh-lease... I've pulled myself above such things."

[junior rivet]

look, to all of you haters and complainers

I just can't stand grinding some of the decks that have only downsides, since the game otherwise turns into an epic/exotic grindfest (plus those epics/exotics need to synergize well)
Is the ACE crash type a developer-sanctioned way to beat the mod? I'd argue it could be, especially since they knew what they were doing and there seems to be no restrictions on the code that can be put in (you could implement that or at least attempt to via filtering the code in some way)
I respect the effort you guys are putting in grinding this mod for hours, but at this point it's just either gambling (the odds of pulling the right combination of epics/exotics/good code cards doesn't seem to be in your favor) or EA-like "sense of pride and accomplishment", which... well, let's just say it can kiss my cheeks

[glossy portal]

x220 waluigi crazy

double sidded scaling is crazy, its already and x500

[teal granite]

Would levelling Pluto one more time break base chip/mult? I level up with about an e24 on chips, which would push me to over e1000

dunno what the upper bound is on base chip/mult with crpytid... anyone know?

[marble arrow]

prob also around the number limit for talisman (def a lot higher than the ss)

[teal granite]

So... whatever I have the talisman cap set to? In my case omeganum

[marble arrow]

i wouldnt worry too much about it until it gets to like two es

[glossy portal]

ewaluigi

broke omega number with it?

[teal granite]

yea the quadratically scalar joker and the polynomial scalar joker go a little too hard together

9 times out of 10 that's what breaks my runs

[glossy portal]

i was using redeemed deck, with doubled sided waluigi with every voucher, bound to break

[teal granite]

my go to deck is equilibrium

Perkeo + pointer spectral card is just perfect together

[glossy portal]

i havent used it yet, i jsut thought redeemed deck with be cool, i got like 3 quintuple tags and got voucher tags for easy blank and its upscales

[teal granite]

get any of Brainstorm, Blueprint, Mario, or Chad and go to town

[teal granite]

Definitely saves you a ton of money not needing to buy the higher-tier vouchers

[glossy portal]

yeah, especially if early on you get the voucher to make everything $1

[teal granite]

on that note... anyone know how to get the pointer spectral card? I've only ever seen it in equilibrium deck

even when stacking a ton of off by one code cards and opening spectral packs, code packs, planet packs, and tarot packs, I've yet to see it anywhere but in an equilibrium deck shop

[teal granite]

that voucher + the reroll voucher is just so fun

all rerolls costing 2 and all cards costing 1 means you can pretty easily scale money faster than you're spending, given you're likely to find hermits and temperances enough times

[raven wedge]

it's as rare as The Soul

so might take ya a while

[teal granite]

As a spectral card, you should see it in Spectral packs, yes?

Or rather, where would you expect to see it pop up naturally (from packs)?

[raven wedge]

spectral and code

[teal granite]

I figured as much, but wasn't entirely sure

so spectral, code, and planet packs if you have the satellite uplink voucher?

[junior rivet]

IIRC the limit for OmegaNum is basically e1e1000 this is slightly under e1e3

this basically means "a number so large, it has googol^10 decimal digits"

[teal granite]

so putting it another way, getting to e1e1 means you're 1% of the way to hitting omeganum limit?

[junior rivet]

e1e1 is a 0.1% of the way there, logarithmically speaking

linearly it'd be 100/e1e999 % = 1/e1e999 = e-1e999 of the way there, which is a very small decimal

[teal granite]

So correct me if I'm wrong, but if bast chips/mult can get to omeganum limit, then that means scaling jokers can also get to it yes?

because too often there comes a point where my jokers break to naneinf/nil and then crash

[junior rivet]

I think the values for base chips/mults are stored as omeganums, but I'm not sure

[teal granite]

usually due to the quadratic and polynomial jokers together, which I forget the names of

double scale and smth else

[junior rivet]

Yes, because it's a very powerful combo, again, the quadratic joker boosts the scalae's scaling, which makes it go crazy

[teal granite]

oh I'm not saying it's a stupid powerful combo

it's basically Cryptid's version of Baron/Mime or the photochad combos of vanilla

so base chip/mult is stored as omeganum... are jokers as as well? That's all I need to know

not that I intend to get either to that actual limit, but moreso so I know roughly when I'm approaching it

[junior rivet]

if a joker scales like 1 -> 2 -> 3, it scaling as a quadratic would be 1 ^2-> 2^2 -> 3^3 basically equating to 1 -> 4 -> 9
if jokers scale, say, as a 100 degree polynominal, it's 1^100 -> 2^100 -> 3^100, so around 1 -> 1e33 -> 1e50, I don't want to solve the logarithms, but you get the point

[junior rivet]

again, I'm not a dev, I'd have to look at the source to know, but it'd make some sense to store everything as omeganums

TL;DR: Omeganums aren't that expensive, but you're essentially losing a lot of precision using them

[teal granite]

I agree it would be weird to have base chips and mult stored as omeganum, but not jokers

[junior rivet]

past e1e3, the game only cares about storing the number of digits, so e1e420 + e1e600 = e1e600 (addition just returns the bigger exponent of the two), e1e3 * e1e4 = e1e7 (multiplication just adds exponents), e1e3 ^ 5 = e1e15 (exponentation multiplies)

[teal granite]

so after one trigger of the quadratic/polynomial jokers, (ignoring the fact the quadratic joker scales the polynomial joker), a 1-2-3... scaling joker would scale from 1^1^2 to to 2^2^3, or from 1 to 64?

[junior rivet]

I think that would make sense

[teal granite]

Cryptid: the mod where you need a collegiate degree in math or to have actually paid attention to high school calculus

[junior rivet]

the most important part to me is that Scalae scales by 2^2 = 4 degrees (on lower than whatever stake reduces the values by 20%) 1.8^2 = 3.24 degrees (on Ascendant)

[teal granite]

so to clarify, once you get to e1e3, all you paticularly care about is getting your multiplication and exponentation to add up to 1000 to get to e1e1000, which is basically omeganum?

[junior rivet]

yes

[teal granite]

shockingly not that hard now that I think about it

[junior rivet]

addition doesn't help much since you need a higher number to get a higher number

if you're going for OmegaNum limit, just focus on exponentation jokers, as those give you the most bang for your buck

or retrigs on exponentation jokers

[teal granite]

my go to is Exponentia, with an assortment of retrigs on polychrome jokers and steel cards

[junior rivet]

frankly, retrig jokers are a banger with Scalae, since retrig jokers will also retrig the scaling of the joker at end of round

[teal granite]

So to clarify one last time: 1e1000 is the same as e1e1? Since you had said that my screenshot of my base chip/mult was just under e1e3, I assume you meant that it was around e1e2 cause of how multiplying exponents works

I just need a measurement of where I'm at currently

and then I can think on how best to go about hitting omeganum limit from there

[junior rivet]

1e1000 = e1e3
1e1000 means "there's a 1000 digits in the number and it is precisely 1 * 10^1000"
e1e3 means "there's a 1e3 = 1000 digits in the number and I don't care about the base anymore because it's so big it doesn't matter/it would be resource intensive to store"

[teal granite]

I... should've thought of it that way

gonna see about trying to hit it via base chip/mult scaling

wait. mod says that omeganum is e10##1000... what do the #'s mean in this context?

sorry if I'm sounding stupid, but I'm just trying to parse this in a way I can understand

[junior rivet]

hmm, OK, I did some digging

hold on, I'm trying to comprehend this

this is essentially called Hyper-E notation and that without the # signs would mean e10##1000 = e10(#10, 999 remaining times) = eeeeeeeeee10(#10, 998 remaining times) = eeeeeeeeee(eeeeeeeeee10)(#10, 997 remaining times)

https://googology.fandom.com/wiki/Hyper-E_notation

each e basically means "take 10 to the power of that", which would mean eeeeeeeeee10 = eeeeeeeee10000000000 = 1 followed by 10^10 zeros

holy fucking shit, this number is incomprehensible

sorry for swearing, but there's literally only about 1e55 atoms in the entire universe and this number seems to be 1 followed by 10^^10 zeroes = 1 followed by 10(^10, 10 times) zeroes

and we're only 2 repetitions in, this is just e10##2

I'm giving up, you're definitely going to need to Scalae this

@teal granite are you seeing this?

[teal granite]

Yeah I'm seeing it

[junior rivet]

OK, they're definitely only storing the score then

[teal granite]

in any case

[junior rivet]

I don't see a way of this number not taking gigabytes to store, unless there's some dirty eldritch tricks like you do at the lower exponent level

[teal granite]

So... Double Scale + Scalae?

and a whole lotta retriggers?

[junior rivet]

Maybe even ten? A hundred of them? I don't fucking know anymore

I'd say CCD deck is your friend, gateway, find/make double pointers, copy the exotic with nostalgic googol play, commit until you find scalae, negate it with Ectoplasm, then copy the fuck out of it

[teal granite]

oh no equilibrium is my deck

of choice

[junior rivet]

I doubt you'll get it this good there unless you find Pointer, Merge and Death/Cryptid to kick you off

[teal granite]

I think equilibrium has me covered

though I do wonder if my comp will blow up

essentially: 100 polychrome steel red seal king of hearts in hand, one mario, stardust, waluigi, double scale, scalae, exponentia, and planned to have 94 canvases to round out the other 96 joker slots

is what I think I'll cover

assuming my computer doesn't just die out of protest

Here goes

yea I kinda expected that it crashed

[junior rivet]

Solid, perhaps binary search for the right amount of Scalae to Omeganum but not enough to crash?

I.e. try 50% of the current amount, if it crashes, try 25%, if it doesn't but doesn't reach OmegaNum, go with 75%, repeat that with the lower/higher 50% recursively until the result is achieved

I'll try 10 myself

[teal granite]

Though I do think rigged echo polychrome cards would be better

depends if the echo effect triggers via Stardust or not

[teal granite]

Basically you just hold out till you get Perkeo + Pointer

at that point shop is irrelevant

[teal granite]

Those aren't Scalae... those are Canvases

94 canvases to be exact

it's essentially a recusrive retrigger, crom the 84 canvases and 1 Mario

[wanton carbon]

what's the other joker next to mario that isn't a canvas?

[teal granite]

Stardust

it's a common so no point in putting it to the right of the canvases

from left to right: 1 Mario, 1 Stardust, 94 Canvas, 1 Mime, 1 Waluigi, 1 Scalae, 1 Exponentia, and one Kaleidoscope

if you wanted to make it to the power of two, it'd probably be 1 mario, 1 stardust, 64 canvas, 1 mime, 1 baron, 1 waluigi, 1 scalae, one expoentia, and one kaleidoscope

to easily be able to binary search the right number of canvas to not crash

you most certainly want to go with joker retriggers, to scale the double scale scalae combo faster and harder

[junior rivet]

@teal granite I've made this setup

a whole bunch of negative marios, neg copy/paste, neg scalae, neg tenebris (just for fun), Googol Play Card (seeded), Chicot, Primus

I'll try adding your canvas trick to see whether and how much it'll help, nonetheless, I got my Scalae to scale as a 73-something degree polynominal

currently scoring e1e2618 thereabouts

we are literally gaming though, my exponent on Primus is rising by more than a googol now

[meager sphinx]

a strategy similar to this was used in the first quad-e run in cryptid

but now since scalae is gemini-incompatible

this undoable since it requred eee scalae

[junior rivet]

yeah, what sucks is multiple copies of Scalae aren't compatible with themselves nor Gemini nor Multiply nor anything else, really

[meager sphinx]

anything that could get remotely close is double-scale spam

and oh yeah, spam retrigging it since now thats posible

(each retrig makes it scale another time)

still not even close tho

and would probably take like

300 hours of straight gameplay +

[junior rivet]

The only thing I could think of is the good ol' ACE crash and rewriting the scoring function to start evaluating from a relatively high value

[vapid turtle]

ah yes

the only thing to improve it is literally hacking the game

[meager sphinx]

well no

[vapid turtle]

well it's ACE

[junior rivet]

Good ol' ACE crash! Nothing beats that!

[vapid turtle]

you're putting in code for the game to run

[meager sphinx]

well yeah, but its not HACKING

its an intentional thing

[vapid turtle]

ok maybe I shouldn't've used the word literally

[junior rivet]

I'd say that it's a technically allowed thing, since, again, it wouldn't be included or there would at least be some attempt at restricting its power

[vapid turtle]

there is an attempt
namely that most of the time using crash crashes the game

[junior rivet]

and I love it, I'm an ACE crash enthusiast, all the haters can shove it

[junior rivet]

You can seed the game and then convince it it's not seeded

[vapid turtle]

HOW?!

[junior rivet]

G.game.seeded = false

[vapid turtle]

also another attempt is that you need to know how to write lua code

and well

I don't know lua

[hazy slate]

I mean it is.... like in the rom hacking sense. you're modding the game from within itself

[junior rivet]

win_game() wins the game
ease_dollars(amount) gives you that much money
function unlock_notify() win_game() end rigs some notification function at the end of the initial run setup so you win automatically (this doesn't work on challenges, but it's a good way to impress the ladies nonetheless)

[clear hare]

local m = love.update; function love.update(dt) m(dt); win_game() end

[junior rivet]

this works as well, I just didn't know lua had the ability to rig functions like that
also, won't this win the game every frame update? you'll get win graphic spam with that

[clear hare]

Yep

[vapid turtle]

This takes "I can't stop winning!" to a whole new level

[strong narwhal]

why does it seem everyone replaces functions via

function func(arg1, arg2)
old(arg1, arg2)
--code
end```
instead of just 
```local old = func
function func(...)
old(...)
--code
end

[karmic bough]

Petition to Make the M jokers to be randoMized in the title screen aniMation

[mental tiger]

Cryptid is weird

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209506360987877408/1290382417785389196/1264608587821482115.gif

I like it

It also has Ball

10/10

[brave ibex]

Here's a Version of Cryptid that does that & the modified lovely.toml that I changed

if people want it then me or math can update the github with this lol

[rare sable]

are there any mods to pair with cryptid to help performance in bigger blinds? I noticed the game really does not like effects that retrigger jokers

[junior rivet]

Not winning a game of Balatro every frame update, even when not actively doing a run? Oh, puh-lease... they've pulled themselves above such things.

[subtle nova]

I've won a game every frame one time

let's just say it's basically a softlock

[mental tiger]

I assume that this mod doesn't like it when you use the trade spectral card on redeemed deck

Yeah...

It crashes my game :/

[mystic raft]

You will never get the OmegaNum limit

xMult and ^Mult jokers are about the same for getting to it

[unkempt drift]

Anyone Else having a problem where if you get an Epic Tag it just bricks your run because you cant select anything anymore in the shop?

[civic acorn]

Try us.

[mystic raft]

ACE is the only way to get to the OmegaNum limit without a glitch or a Joker designed to do so

[upper veldt]

it's the only feasibly possible way to do so

but theoretically with a powerful enough computer and enough time

any scaling joker can reach omeganum

[deep kite]

balatro's 2gb mem limit:

https://tenor.com/view/transitions-kinemaster-black-guy-suit-tiktok-gif-25279479

[remote locust]

Omeganum doesn’t have that kind of precision

[mystic raft]

Given 10##1000 years technically I guess

[broken birch]

so that new kidnapping rework

also glowing deck is funny, and ante 1 ancient joker in glowing deck is even funnier

[clear hare]

why didn’t we remove the tooltips yet 💀

[civic acorn]

Wait, that Joker was reworked?

[broken birch]

Yep. New one's in the screenshot, default is +$3 per Basic Joker sold.

Also, since it comes in the same update with all the new Basic Jokers for all the hands, it's pretty easy to proc.

And that's not even getting into how dumb it gets on Glowing Deck.

[visual geyser]

the jokers are sent to the mines instead of the jolly joker brainwashing facility

[broken birch]

The Jokers YEARN FOR THE MINES!!!!

[civic acorn]

I mean, it technically tells you which Jokers will trigger it.

[cobalt crow]

If you have Door Hanger from Bunco, using a Gateway card crashes on Cryptid.lua line 1699, which tries to compare _rarity (string "cry_exotic") with a number

[brave ibex]

String values slipped my mind when reimplementing it and testing 😭 one sec

@cobalt crow lemme know if this version still has this issue

[brave ibex]

totally forgot about fixing that, thanks for reminding me

[cobalt crow]

For probably unrelated reasons, my run has reached a point where when I play a hand, the game closes without a crash screen. But before that, I kludged my copy of the mod in a similar way (just checking _rarity ~= 'cry_exotic') and that worked, so I'm pretty confident that your fix will work too.

[junior river]

who the hell is trying to go for omeganum limit

[junior rivet]

Goat was, but yeah, it's probably infeasible with all the balancing

[junior river]

my brother in christ have you seen jen's almanac

its not the balancing

its that its just impossible

[junior rivet]

Yeah, but we were trying to do it in just Cryptid

Yeah, the number seems to be incomprehensibly big

[remote locust]

Fun fact: ##1000 isn’t even the limit

[junior rivet]

Not with that attitude! You could technically rig the score evaluation function to start from a large value.

[junior river]

that wont work

[junior river]

thats just like getting naneinf dollars and getting bull

[remote locust]

OmegNum keeps going until your computer crashes

[junior river]

the limit is how much your pc can take

[junior rivet]

I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers start getting large to the point where you just run out of RAM trying to store them.

[remote locust]

Eventually that would be the case

[wanton carbon]

i can't wait until we get an Expansion Pak for balatro and we can finally get more ram

[meager sphinx]

say

WHAT?

i wonder what ante id need to got with almanac scaling to reach 2##1000 scoring requirement

all i know is that its above e150

and it stays at #999 for MANY es

[junior rivet]

It's theoretically possible, it's just that the computer can't handle it. That's good enough for me.

[meager sphinx]

but like

at what point does it reach ##1000?

[junior rivet]

Again, the ACE crash lets you basically remake the universe. Then again, couldn't you use the ACE crash to write, say, a very imprecise system that lets you store 10##1000 and 10##1000 + 1, albeit in a very imprecise way and break the OmegaNum limit that way?

[glossy portal]

this deck is definitely insane, no - ante vouchers but i got 4 terenibus, 2 being a copy from a glitched version

[glossy portal]

mario saved the run, canvas, scalae and primus broke it

[summer cargo]

It doesn't

even at ante e308 it caps out at ##999, iirc

[meager sphinx]

sadge

it prob caps out at the higher end of ##999

[unkempt drift]

Was this a funny coincidence or is this guaranteed lol

[karmic bough]

It's guaranteed to look like that, but won't work on them

[unkempt drift]

L

[limpid garden]

guaranteed

[hazy slate]

wait, cryptid has normal jokers?

See this is why "balanced" cryptid is still a good idea

[unkempt drift]

Cryptid Lite if you will

[hazy slate]

nods

[long veldt]

thank you glitched card

[long veldt]

oh, glowing deck and notebook decreases joker slots

they just start losing slots for some reason ???

[mental tiger]

Bitch

Who thought this was remotely ok to put in this mod? 😡

[mental tiger]

If they make that, this blind must be the first thing to go!

Imagine playing on accendent stake on totally fair deck, about to get your first win, and then this mfer shows up and you lose because of that

[remote locust]

It’s unbalanced

Not sure what you expected, fairness?

[mental tiger]

Unballanced doesn't mean it has to be extremely unfun :(

It's not even that funny

[remote locust]

Btw it will be modified so that one hand is guaranteed to go through

Given cryptids immense scoring power seems pretty okay to me

[mental tiger]

Yeah

Still kinda bs that encountering this boss could make it impossible to win a given seed

But one garenteed is enough :/

At least then you can actually play the blind

encountering this boss is about as fun as a game crash

It puts everything to a halt :(

[clear hare]

Yeah, I’m probably going to implement this today, even

[mental tiger]

Happi :)

[upper veldt]

thats why i turned off blinds

[limber abyss]

I can't use SEED or COMMIT on the latest build of cryptid 3:

also you can use COMMIT without selecting anything else and it crashes the game

[coarse dagger]

yeah this is 100% happening

[hushed totem]

I only just realized after roffles video 3 days ago that I was the creator of the pie joker that I cAnt remember how to say

[clear hare]

latin is a really easy language to pronounce

everything is just like how it is written

except v sounds like w

[wanton carbon]

sometimes Ys sound like Us

like hybris (which turned into hubris because of how it was pronounced)

[clear hare]

interesting

[wanton carbon]

... or wait is that greek

i'm not good with olden languages

yeah it's greek not latin my bad

[subtle marten]

it gets very fun with Oops! All 6s!

[lilac shuttle]

if you have anything that increase chances you're done

[humble holly]

Counter (EXOTIC):
When (random hand) is played, add +50, +5X and +^0.5 mult and chips to this card.
-# random hand changes every time you play the random hand, starts at +0, 1X and ^1 mult and chips.

random thing i thought of

[unkempt drift]

JESUS

[humble holly]

WHAT IN THE WORLD IS A STRAIGHT SPECTRUM

A SPECTRUM

OR WHATEVER

[unkempt drift]

@humble holly ITS FROM THE SIX SUITS MOD

[humble holly]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[unkempt drift]

actually it could be from bunco now that I think about it because they both add "Spectrums"

[civic acorn]

Feels more like a Jen's thing, tbh.

[wanton carbon]

interesting though cause you have to have a deck that can make every type of hand unless if the scaling grinds to a halt

[strong narwhal]

cryptid already has 2 scaling ^mult exotics

[civic acorn]

Yes, I know, but all of that at once sounds like a bit much for a single Exotic.

[strong narwhal]

the +mult and xmult get kinda irrelevant when ^mult is involved

especially at cryptids level of scoring

[teal granite]

btw did you ever check to see if my recursive retriggering was better for scaling?

think it was you who had an alternative method of scaling exponentia

[junior rivet]

All the Marios seem better for scaling Scalae... I didn't say anything about Exponentia, I used Primus myself

but yeah, as we have previously discussed, the number might be unreachable simply due to RAM constraints

I.e. the only way to "reach" "OmegaNum" "limit" would be to, via ACE crash, import some library with shoddier precision, reenable compatibility flag for Gemini to work with Scalae/start the evaluation from a higher value/etc. and go from there

even then, people have said that people have only reached as high as 2#999 or something even on the earlier versions

admittedly, I only thought it was e10e1000, which is a way lower number than the 10##1000 required and even then, someone chimed in that 10##1000 might only be a theoretical limit

[strong narwhal]

w jen ofc

there's no feasible way to get to that high of a number though in base cryptid yeah

[junior rivet]

again, not with that attitude, the ACE crash lets you remake the universe, but yes, some might consider ACE crash modding

[strong narwhal]

also it's like a lot simpler than that
you don't need shoddier precision you can just.. overwrite something in scoring to make number go huge

e.g. handle xmult as tetrarion or smth

[junior rivet]

there's also the problem with storing a number that big, isn't there? 10#1000 is much bigger than 10000##63

I.e. people are saying that it'd likely go over Balatro's default 2GB RAM limit if you'd even try to store that number

again, depending on the precision used

[teal granite]

shame

so I suppose it's just let the run fly till it comes crashing back down to earth

[junior rivet]

I'm decently confident if, say, you're exponentiating by a googol, it's going to take a long time for the blind requirements to outrun that... possibly years or decades or even centuries.

[mystic raft]

It just has basically no prescision

You mean 10##1000 right?

[junior rivet]

yeah, right, sorry, double octothorpes

[strong narwhal]

yeah omeganum has no issue with dropping as much precision as it takes to hold those large numbers

[mystic raft]

Pretty much anything with 2 es has no precision

[junior rivet]

Well, IK there's the trick where you drop the base after 2es, i.e. e1e100 could be 1e1e100 as well as 3e1e100, etc. but what the heck do you do for one octothorpe? how about two?

[strong narwhal]

you drop more irrelevant data

i don't imagine the specifics are very interesting but if you care you can look at the talisman source code

[wanton carbon]

the heck is an octothorpe

[hazy slate]

"#"

[summer cargo]

also known as sharps or hashtags depending on who you ask

[wanton carbon]

i've never heard someone call a hashtag anything other than a hashtag in my life

[strong narwhal]

pound sign?

[upper veldt]

"#" is a pound sign or a hash or i guess an octothorpe
all i know is it is not called a hashtag

oops

discord

forgot they use # for formatting

[strong narwhal]

depends on where you live

[upper veldt]

i have curse of british

[strong narwhal]

yup

"hashtag" is common where i live

[upper veldt]

hashtag is common everywhere cause people don't know what it means it's just used for the thing called a hashtag on social media

[strong narwhal]

"hashtag" derives from the words hash and tag, so as far as I can tell it's just an extension of what the hash symbol was originally called

[rich cedar]

Hey, I'm getting a crash on startup using the Cryptid mod, any ideas what is happening?

[deep kite]

downgrade to lovely beta6

[graceful bone]

why does my game crash when i try to open the deck?

is this a common issue

[rich cedar]

It crashed again, any further suggestions?

[deep kite]

update steamodded and/or cryptid?

[rich cedar]

I had downloaded what I thought was the most up-to-date versions of both.
What versions are needed?

Nevermind, I figured out what I did wrong

[brave ibex]

update cartomancer

[graceful bone]

k thanks man

[zinc spoke]

god the big music is so good i love the speedchops

for the unaware, looking at the code i think this plays when your hand score is over 10ee6

can anyone tell me if that's right

[remote locust]

hi balt, didn't know you were on this server

[zinc spoke]

i joined a few days ago

hii

[remote locust]

nice

[clear hare]

it is

The version in the files is sped up though, I think the original is buried in the messages somewhere from AlexZGreat

[zinc spoke]

i actually slowed it down manually :P

i think

notice how it's cryptid_big and not music_big

if i'm not wrong isn't it slowed down to 70% speed?

[unkempt drift]

Mathguy:

[zinc spoke]

hold on wait did i

join date isn't showing for me

my memory's bad

[zinc spoke]

i own a server they're in so

[remote locust]

bruh

[unkempt drift]

It says July 26 2024 balt

[zinc spoke]

huh

memory is bad then

[unkempt drift]

😂 Sorry when you said that it just reminded me of that meme format

[raven wedge]

omg balt hi

[junior river]

omg balt hiiiii!!! (i have no idea who this is)

[clear hare]

Hey balt

[rough cradle]

omg balatro

[hybrid drum]

What did you do? I'm getting that same error.

[karmic bough]

Hi balt

[hybrid drum]

Nevermind, I had two different versions of Steamodded enabled.

[deep kite]

hjello balt

[zinc spoke]

god

this is getting kinda weird

funny, but

:P

i mean the server's in my bio if you're interested

okay but anyways

[zinc spoke]

cryptid mod is really cool and yall do banger work on it

i love it

👍

[zinc spoke]

baltatro

currently working on porting omeganum to rust soo :P

[remote locust]

omeganum in EVERY programming language

[versed cloud]

found chili pepper
accidentally read it as chill pepper, now i want a secondary joker that just extends the time chili pepper can go for called chill pepper

i adore this

[deep kite]

yknow

who needs a joker?

the pristine artist..

https://tenor.com/view/pepperman-pepperman-pizza-tower-pizza-tower-pepper-man-gif-6591403957195624766

pepperman my beloved..

[versed cloud]

encoded deck is hilarious

so hilarious it destroyed the game when i won

[karmic bough]

I believe you can resume the run

[versed cloud]

about to find out

resumes from the start of the last blind

[versed cloud]

just barely enough to win

[hazy slate]

Pedantry imo

[upper veldt]

pedantry ~= hashtag so that's fine with me

[hazy slate]

Hashtag cringe

:p

[wanton carbon]

ending a balatro stream with using a CRASH:// card will always be my favorite way to end a stream

[versed cloud]

thats how i ended my run

[versed cloud]

good use of money

[unkempt drift]

Lol what did I start?

[clear hare]

we need a cat tag emote

[meager sphinx]

and a gerbert emote

[junior rivet]

the ballin' challenge is just ballin'

[haughty lodge]

Is Seal the Deal broken?

[junior rivet]

seal the deal is a bit of a noob trap because it works on the last hand, not last played hand

[haughty lodge]

Ah I didn't read it correctly

Its like acrobat, you have to use all your hands

[junior rivet]

i.e. if you have n hands remaining at the beginning of a blind, it'll work on the floor(n)th hand

the floor is there because of the cursed -20% value blind, not like the game will let you play the 0.8 hand anyways

[raven wedge]

(it actually does)

[hollow rover]

Quick question, if I get a double sided card and put something on side A, while it's flipped to show side B does it only act as the card that's shown or on both sides

[junior rivet]

does it?

well, I must''ve played on a different version then or it's just one of those classic cryptid bugs

[karmic bough]

I am not sure about how those double-sided cards work

[clear hare]

imo it should be buffed to winning hand anyway

[hard scarab]

how do i download

actually what do i download

[clear hare]

check the pins

[hard scarab]

what even is cryptid

[clear hare]

Cryptid is Cryptid

Everyone asks what is Cryptid

But nobody asks how is Cryptid

[slow trout]

Okay, well, how is cryptid?

[clear hare]

it's good

[karmic bough]

When is cryptid

[meager sphinx]

NOW

[granite ibex]

where is cryptid

[karmic bough]

Here...?

[junior rivet]

Why is Cryptid? Just for those forbidden M and Jolly Joker memes?

[wanton carbon]

how many is cryptid?

[hazy slate]

🦌 💀

so 3?

[civic acorn]

Isn't that just a Joker from morefluff?

[clear hare]

i don't see any joker like that in morefluff - https://notmario.github.io/MoreFluff/

maybe it was similar to one of the removed ones

[civic acorn]

It was a deleted Morefluff Joker.

It adds a random Seal to a random winning card.

[mental tiger]

Crashed the mod for my first time

[clear hare]

oh

great minds think alike

[mental tiger]

And I mean crashing it with a big amount of bs

A lot of retetriggers, and a scalline and double scale, and a LOT of Tredcim

Pov: My PC after pulling this bullshit

https://tenor.com/view/xbox-xbox-series-x-smoking-fire-fail-gif-19373998

[keen tulip]

Oh my pixels

I think your whole Balatro has a 1 in 2 chance to retrigger

[snow rivet]

Hey, not to bother you, but I see I still haven't been credited for the extended Common Hand Jokers on the concepting sheet. ^^;

[clear hare]

thank you for pointing that out - you should have proper credit now :)

[snow rivet]

Alright, thank you. I would've addressed this earlier but I figured you'd get around to it, and then I guess we both forgot LOL

Yep, just checked it again and there I am.

[hard scarab]

me playing cryptid mod only to see “1/2 chance to retrigger your life”

joker that if it activates your entire life retriggers from birth

[wanton carbon]

bros balatro is in 3x2

[mental tiger]

That isn't blurred, that's blrd

[versed cloud]

gameboy pocket

[junior rivet]

I am the ballin' of my Jimballs
Stone cards are my body and XMult is my blood.
I have created over a thousand Jolly Jokers,
Unknown to Mr. Bones,
Nor known to playing anything other than High Card.
Have withstood antes to create many Jolly Jokers
Yet this deck will never trigger them.
So, as I pray -
Unlimited Jolly Works

[spark canopy]

is anybody's game crashing after the latest mod update? or just me?

Crash log:

Syntax error: functions/state_events.lua:977: unexpected symbol near '}'


Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1f-FULL
Modded Version: ???
Love2D Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.5.0-beta6

Stack Traceback
===============
(3)  C function 'function: 0x3052bb28'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 854
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
 c = table: 0x3052a468  {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x3052a4b8 (more...)}
 openedconsole = boolean: false
 confok = boolean: true
 conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
 result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
 func = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
 inerror = boolean: true
 deferErrhand = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
 earlyinit = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

_

[junior rivet]

"sloppy code" crashes are almost always a sign of either mod incompatibility, not using the latest versions of mods available or ACE crash n00biness

i.e. unexpected symbols, etc.

the way that ethical modding works is by using injectors (i.e. basically stuff that can inject the modded elements into a running application, so that the modders don't have to share the entire files of the game for it to work) and when you screw up those injectors usually inject invalid code into places where it shouldn't be

[spark canopy]

ok what do i do in simple terms please...

I only have cryptid

[junior rivet]

redownload cryptid, possibly redownload lovely?

if "you only have cryptid", you might also need talisman, as it is a prerequisite

[vapid turtle]

meanwhile yorick in shop

[unkempt ingot]

I had no problem with loading mods however when I play or discard cards the game simply crashes without any log

does anyone have a solution to that problem?

[junior rivet]

update Steammodded to v1, same for all mods that require it

[alpine peak]

m

[faint seal]

uhhhhhhhh when I tried to look at card colors the game crashed

[visual geyser]

its a cartomancer bug, you'll wanna update that

had the same issue

[faint seal]

btw my deck turned from a "wo pair glitched deck" into a "shoving 18 rigged googol play cards up my butt deck"

*two

[versed cloud]

what are all the added enhancements? i want to see whats best for the code consumable

[echo jacinth]

There's

• Echo Card

[versed cloud]

how much better are exotics really? iv only seen one before

[versed cloud]

amazing 🙏

[echo jacinth]

are you like going through every new deck one by one

[versed cloud]

i mean kinda
i asked that because i was slowly removing every booster pack from the shop so i could have an easier chance at finding a lgendary or exotic one (been stacking the consumable that increases your choices in the next booster)
i seen legendary first and wasnt sure if i should open that or get the exotics

[junior rivet]

tbh if you don't have showman, you can technically just spam off by one like crazy and eventually generate all the jokers, but that is asinine in itself

IMO your best bet is to off by one spectral packs a lot, get pointer, have pointer create pointer (so that it's a consumable in hand), get merge somehow and then cryptid/death your way to perfection

it's a bit asinine in itself, but not as asinine as jokers, since I'm pretty sure there's less than 50 spectrals total

[hollow berry]

funny interaction

[soft night]

kek

[junior rivet]

mom: we have shop rerolls at home
shop rerolls at home:

[hard scarab]

what does luigi do

[junior rivet]

Luigi IIRC has every joker give you xchips, IIRC it might be 2.5x base

[upper veldt]

3x

[versed cloud]

usually has a floatier jump than mario

depending on the game it can be outright higher and he may have a higher top speed

[nova quail]

In some games he's even the protagonist!

[nova quail]

Did you know that 2013 was the Year of Luigi?

[soft night]

Did you know that 2024 is the Second Coming of the Year of Luigi?

[versed cloud]

In 2035 Luigi will become president of most countries!

[wanton carbon]

i miss that year

we need another year of luigi

every year that ends with a 2

[subtle nova]

Year of Luigi mentioned

[versed cloud]

I love the little fellas

[deep kite]

Man I wish we could have another Year of Luigi

we need one

[upper veldt]

and it lost nintendo money

[wanton carbon]

yeah okay well to be fair one of the things that came out was literally just new super mario bros u: hard mode with basically no changes except for hidden luigis my beloved

hate to dog on luigi stuff but that's basically just the same game

[versed cloud]

year of luigi could make them money if they actually tried

[hard scarab]

does it give you monet

[wanton carbon]

year of luigi if it was good:
-atleast 2 original luigi-centric games
-adding luigi related events to other games (example idk luigi's mansion themed minigames in jamboree or dream-luigi sub-adventure in brothership)
-crap ton of luigi merch that the luigi enjoyers (us) will buy (don't make it overpriced tho >:( )

[versed cloud]

the merch will always be overpriced

[wanton carbon]

unfortunate

[unkempt drift]

FUCK

[hazy slate]

Oof

[unkempt drift]

It's so Joever

[wanton carbon]

its so jokerver

[unkempt drift]

Its so Jimbover

[versed cloud]

simply obtain legendary joker

[normal timber]

crustulum lite

[humble holly]

oh? idk

[humble holly]

rip dice

[humble holly]

hey excuse me, whats your name?
"Harry?"
okay, harry, we are PAYING you to reroll this shop. will you do it?
"okay?"

WE HAVE A WINNER!

[true harness]

I've played Cryptid mod and I can confirm all reroll prices below 0 are considered free

you get (absolute value of negative price plus 1) free rerolls

[unkempt drift]

I didn't even have dice. I redeemed a voucher so there was literally nothing I could do about it.

[lime ridge]

gameplan is so exploitably bizarre
it can also make squid draw your entire deck, which is probably an actual bug

[hazy slate]

Bootleg Mr. Hands???????

@radiant roost

[radiant roost]

lmfaoooo

very nice

[lime inlet]

lol same thing happens with the double sided edition

[hard scarab]

what are the boss blinds

i’m curious

[ashen citrus]

Syntax error: functions/state_events.lua:986: unexpected symbol near '}'


Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1g-FULL
Modded Version: ???
Love2D Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.5.0-beta7

Stack Traceback
===============
(3)  C function 'function: 0x0e98cee8'
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 854
(6) global C function 'require'
(7) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
 c = table: 0x0e98cc30  {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x0e98ce08 (more...)}
 openedconsole = boolean: false
 confok = boolean: true
 conferr = nil
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
 result = boolean: true
(10) global C function 'xpcall'
(11) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
 func = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
 inerror = boolean: true
 deferErrhand = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
 earlyinit = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])```
tried updating cryptid and getting this error

[ashen citrus]

any explanation?

[brave ibex]

Try updating steamodded too

[ashen citrus]

isnt steamodded included with the cryptid download though?

[broken birch]

Was just playing a bit of Wormhole Deck and noticed that Exponentia doesn't trigger when Polychrome Jokers activate their Polychrome-ness; is this working as intended?

[versed cloud]

Mine wasn't

[raven sand]

It is, but it isn't always the latest or best version

[mental tiger]

The hardest part of deck of equilibrium is trying not to crash the game I swear

[wanton carbon]

that's just this whole mod

[vocal plaza]

antimatter deck is so overpowered it's hard to not crash in a single run

[lilac fog]

i have never even used hammerspace, good first one

huh

[ashen citrus]

i wanna note that some cards broken with the nostalgic card like multiply

would this be changed or not?

[mystic raft]

I think only the appearance is glitches, it's still 1 in 7

[haughty lodge]

Anyone know how to get the incantation mod to not crash the game on starting a run?

[brave ibex]

maybe try updateing everything

that looks like a very ancient version of steamodded and cryptid

[haughty lodge]

Oh opkay

Yay now the game crashes before it can open!

[haughty lodge]

Fixed, turns out lovely wasn't updated as I thought it was

[haughty lodge]

Anyone want some joker slots?

[agile vigil]

how the f

[lilac fog]

Astro on left or middle, a conundrum :P

(This is better for planet cards and in general)

[lilac fog]

neutron star with this is actually fucking insane

[lilac fog]

white hole.........

[versed cloud]

MFS with a full house looking at the four of a kind one rank away

[junior rivet]

cursed ACE screenshot

[manic maple]

how would that even work

what values does gemini have that cam be doubled

[junior rivet]

I would imagine it's the doubling that can be doubled, nonetheless, there's scalae as well

I think I found the scalae setup

hey kids, do you like Primus?

[karmic bough]

Again!

[junior rivet]

OK, cracked Gemini doesn't double the doubling, which is pretty sad

I fear spending an eternity evaluating a hand if I would put Mario first...

[junior river]

it cannot

its hardcoded

[regal cobalt]

a

[unborn jetty]

Can someone explain hooking to me? It doesnt seem to trigger the scoring part of jokers? From what I can tell baron does not 1.5x when hook triggered and fortune teller does not add mult to score when triggered

[junior rivet]

from my experience of the mod, there are a couple phases of score evaluation and hooked jokers to jokers that trigger on other phases basically do nothing

I.e. hooking something like Baron would only have impact on jokers that also trigger based on held in hand kings in some way

[versed cloud]

It'd take so long to play a hand

[lilac fog]

i want more cats when do i get cat tag

Code card that lets us choose a tag please oh my lord

Maybe like a Spectral-Code card?

Rare but I want them cats bro

[umbral egret]

hey so i couldnt find an issue page on the github so im gonna assume i'm supposed to report bugs/crashes here
so I was playing a really crazy run and I used //RUN to go to a shop, and then when i left the shop and played a hand, my game hard crashed with no log or anything (that's not the crash i'm gonna talk about). then, I opened the game back up and it put me back at the shop i used the //RUN card to enter (i could tell from the music) and when i tried to leave, it crashed and gave me the following error (also something i noticed: when i reloaded, all of the hooked stickers on my jokers got reset. the tooltip just put "[joker]" in place of the name of the joker it was hooked with.)

(also yeah i had other mods installed, but from what i can tell this was because of cryptid)

[rough cradle]

god i used to have that one

[lilac fog]

Finally.....

nice

[echo jacinth]

are the cat tag levels like, behave like 2048?

[lilac fog]

ye

they do nothing

[wanton carbon]

they should meow louder depending on their level

[upper veldt]

i think we'd all die

if that was a thing

[hazy slate]

150db meow

[wanton carbon]

1100 db meow creates a black hole (i think it's 1100 db i forgot how loud you need to be to make a black hole)

[vapid turtle]

yep it's 1100 dB

[unborn jetty]

anyone able to help with a crash report?

[versed cloud]

might be outdated steamodded

check

[elder knoll]

hey, I put in a pr for steamodded for that error

[wheat citrus]

How to get these achievment?
-- H4xx0r: Use a cheat code
-- Pocket ACE: Only unlockable through using ACE to unlock

[soft night]

• use either variable or class to do something unexpected
• use crash and hope to god

[wheat citrus]

what is do sth unexpected

[wanton carbon]

KONAMI CODE (idk either)

[junior rivet]

there are two "special" enhancements the class code card recognizes that aren't typically considered by Balatro to be enhancements, but IDK how you're supposed to realize they're available without reading the mod's source code

presumably you're reading it since you're seeing the list though

also, there might be one special variable value, but I hadn't tested it

and the ACE crash is just one of the 7 crash types that can happen, but it has a random chance of happening when using crash based on seed

[soft night]

m

[lilac fog]

oh damn

i sold one of them placeholder cards while in shop on glitched deck idek what happened

[ashen moss]

How do I find and download your mod?

[soft night]

pins

[clear hare]

📌

[lost summit]

Would it be possible to change the echo enhancement sprite so it doesn't overlap (as much) with the suit/number in the top right/bottom left?
It's really hard for me to read (I'm slightly colourblind). Maybe more like the second image as opposed to the first?

edit: Jevonn implemented a variation where the card is much more readable :)

it's definitely still getting updates, yes

[meager sphinx]

well

currently, in the official cryptid discord, theres a link to a google doc called the cryptid suggestion list where people suggest stuff
and some of it gets acepted, most doesnt tho

and stuff still isnt getting added sinc there are plans to add a good chunk of stuff before any new jokers (and the big 150th joker)

#1214093649772544050 message

theyre working on an update right now