Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]

[green cove]

I c

then Idk what caused that

[rough cliff]

I'm just cracked ig

Aha

Right

okay

Critical deck crash

Played the hand, saw the score go up, then immediate crash

[brave ibex]

can i see the mod folders

i think this is from folders not being set up properly

[rough cliff]

Everything else loads fine

[brave ibex]

hmm

did you get both talisman and cryptid from source?

[rough cliff]

Yup

[brave ibex]

i know things were moved around so you might be out of date if you only updated one of them

[rough cliff]

Ahh, right, that miiight be it?

I mean honestly I'm not broken up about it

That deck looks unfun af

[brave ibex]

the thing is it's gonna crash every time that sound is called

so no antimatter, no expo, no primus, and no antimatter

if you're fine with that then no prob

[subtle nova]

Remoce the random number, but keep it hidden, and apply the glitched effect

[rough cliff]

Primus breaks? Well shit okay maybe I'll reconsider

Also expo doesnt seem to break

Primus ain't breaking

[brave ibex]

hm

lemme look into this

[rough cliff]

AFAIK primus just plays the normal "card activation" sound

No crash

It's just Crit deck that seems to be weirdy

[brave ibex]

maybe something wasn't fixed in redeemed deck after things were moved around

that would explain eeverything else not crashing

[rough cliff]

Redeemed was working fine for me, it's critical that's being odd but there's maybe an overlap idk

[brave ibex]

i meant critical lol

mixed those up 💀

[rough cliff]

Hm

Okay

[brave ibex]

seems like this is something that would be fixed anyway with new releases so i wouldn't worry about this

[rough cliff]

Interestingly, Critical miss doesn't cras

h

YUP

game crashed whenever I got a critical hit

But critical misses are fine apparently

[karmic wraith]

depends, how many 7s do you have in your deck?

[torpid edge]

just a few jokers

my notebook has 131072 out of 7 chance to activate

and before you ask, no, the game will not load into the next ante

[teal plover]

personally i wouldn't count this. omeganum is designed to handle numbers of unprecedented magnitude. the only possible way infinity could be achieved is either through an arithmetic quirk (i.e. a non-big number becoming infinity due to overflow) or straightup declaring a variable to be infinite, or it could be that the game was not restarted after changing the score limit, making it still be ee308.

as math has said; omeganum's actual limit is when the game crashes, because they've removed the check where anything larger than 1000 arrows returns infinity

plus it could even be that they changed the score limit option and then screenshotted the options

to fake it

[rough cliff]

My game has been on Omeganum for a rather good while now, so idk what to tell you there

Other than that if I were to fake a score, it would be for something much cooler than that

[frozen geyser]

So In other words the only way to reach it without crashing is to get exactly there without going over?

[rough cliff]

If it helps, I hit Nane0 the first hand

After playing like two more hands it hit infinity

[teal plover]

that sounds like an arithmetic quirk

[hushed totem]

anyone have a list fo all the new stakes

[teal plover]

math might know more, but in my honest opinion i don't think bugging to infinity counts, if a bignumber has "nan" in it somewhere then you've clearly found an arithmetic issue

[rough cliff]

what part of the mod did you code

[hushed totem]

are there any other op mods that go well with crypted

[teal plover]

mathguy is the one responsible for porting omeganum, math did some other stuff for compatibility with balatro, recently i made an update to talisman to support arbitrary operations for chips and mult

[oak herald]

no

there's no other op mods like cryptid currently released yet

[teal plover]

there's my mod, Jen's Almanac, but it's in the works and is not released currently

#1262697083438235729

[hushed totem]

ok

[rough cliff]

k just wanted to make sure you weren't talking out of your ass

but kinda hard to actually argue with the guy who worked on talisman

i conceede, funny number man

[teal plover]

even if i didn't work on talisman, i have a heavy background in lua, i used to program a lot on gmod

[oak herald]

it's going to be fun when a streamer gets to the # notation

[hushed totem]

Ok whats is the blank deck

[rough cliff]

Nothing

[oak herald]

it does nothing

[hushed totem]

no secret to it?

[rough cliff]

nope

[hushed totem]

what is the most op deck (not animater)

[oak herald]

DoE

[hushed totem]

ok fair

[rough cliff]

Critical

It crashes your game when the gimmick happens

[hushed totem]

what...

[remote locust]

misprint is good tho

[remote locust]

u sure?

[rough cliff]

yeah it's currently bugged lol

soundcall for critical hit crashes game

[hushed totem]

hmm intrsting ti didnt crah for me

[rough cliff]

just me then ig

[teal plover]

sounds like you need to update cryptid

[rough cliff]

I literally just did

Today

Im just waiting until a next release and maybe it'll resolve itself then

[hushed totem]

that might be your issue

i installed it like 2 days ago and have not updated since

[clear hare]

update talisman

[teal plover]

then update talisman

[rough cliff]

k

[hushed totem]

i feel liek this game needs more ram

its only useing like 600 mb

power of waluigi is too much

[clear hare]

waa

[hushed totem]

WAh

[snow rivet]

Not yet. Antimatter Deck's supposed to only unlock upon Gold Staking Blank Deck, but that's not implemented yet. If it were implemented, then being required to unlock the Antimatter Deck would be the secret.

[patent mango]

WHY SAPLING WHY]

[clear hare]

infinite money

[gray elm]

what does sob actually do

[brave ibex]

you cannot escape

also edition decks overriding the negative spawn is funny

[karmic wraith]

does it spawn itself upon sell and/or destruction?

[brave ibex]

the curse is the eternal obelisk :p

[karmic wraith]

huh... so it spawns eternal obelisk when bought or something? im not understanding

[brave ibex]

it's hard to explain it without experiencing it yourself

but it spams obelisk when doing anything

and spawns a negative eternal on spawn

so you always have it

[lime inlet]

m

[clear hare]

m

[rough violet]

m

[dusty plover]

m

[vestal seal]

m

[hollow berry]

m

[upper pendant]

m

[subtle nova]

m

[wary pasture]

m

[hasty rose]

what the context behind the "m" btw? And why jolly joker?

[karmic bough]

m

[upper veldt]

m

[lime inlet]

not much context tbh

m

[upper veldt]

mome muy mame mn mnd mtarted mpamming m munch mf ms mnd mhey msked mhem mhat mheir meast maviourite moker mas mnd mhey maid molly moker

mo mow mhere's m munch mf m mokers mhat make mnd meal mith molly moker

was this bit worth it

[upper pendant]

so the crash card does nothing but doing what its name tells right

so its basically just a ://SELL_IT

[raven wedge]

://HOLY_SHIT_JUST_DONT_USE_THIS_ONE

[upper veldt]

://HOMEWORK

[upper pendant]

😭

[upper pendant]

the Memory Tag is generating orbital tags with no poker hand

the poker hand shown in its desc is the placeholder

[fallen canyon]

So turns out having 100+ jokers and two canvas jokers while skipping score animation straight up crashes the game

Fun times

Oh NVM it's the having 100+ jokers part

So uh

M!

[fallen canyon]

Nvm again it's the having two canvas jokers part

[livid temple]

level up 3 times

[upper pendant]

imma gather and bump recent problems related to cryptid

• The Tax blind stopped working properly since idk a specific steamodded update maybe.
• overriding sounds not working
• MoreFluff's color cards not working is confirmed to be caused by cryptid but its exact cause is unknown.
• The Memory Tag generated orbital tags with no poker hand in one of my previous run. i added a nil check for G.GAME.hands[self.ability.orbital_hand] to prevent it from crashing the game but 4 tags got wasted

[boreal dock]

I'm getting this on startup after installing Cryptid from the git repo. Anyone have any idea what's causing it?

[karmic bough]

um you are customizing my fine-tuned pack?

@boreal dock how did you install cryptid

[grizzled iris]

(video to show the excelent performance of my pc)
so, found out you can reach infinity with only high cards (only theory, if I get to that I will send a screenshot)

[echo jacinth]

ee308 is not infinity

[grizzled iris]

only theory

im still in the run

[boreal dock]

The normal way - unzipped Cryptid and Talisman into the Mods folder. The issue seems to be with loading Crpytid with Codex Arcanum in the Mods folder.

[karmic bough]

Seems like you already cracked it

[boreal dock]

Yeh I decided to offload everything put it back one-by-one. Probably should've done that before asking.

[hushed totem]

i got to it

i just didnt save a screenshot

but i get to the point where balitro is the problem not the pc

[grizzled iris]

im still on the run

average of 1 frame per 2 seconds

[hushed totem]

but thats on equalibrium deck with waluigi spam and blueprints and canvas and lots of jokers and the exponet cards that get boosted like crazy

i can try to do it now

[grizzled iris]

the world is burning and im lifting the jerry can

[hushed totem]

lol

il be back with resalts in a little

[echo jacinth]

note: cryptid infinity is E10##1000. I think you'd be lucky to even get three e's in your notation

[hushed totem]

what?

when do # come

[echo jacinth]

haven't you selected OmegaNum in the max number option?

[grizzled iris]

is this near that?

if not then i wont bother (its taking long pauses now)

[echo jacinth]

not at all. that's about E10#3. with only a regular hash. E10##1000 = E10#10#10#10#...#10 with 1000 10s in a row

[grizzled iris]

damn

thats big

and all that for $20

[echo jacinth]

E10#3=E(E10#2)=E(E(E10#1))=E(E(E10))=ee1e10

[hushed totem]

infinity is that big?

i could have sworn i had gotten it

[grizzled iris]

i think its the mod limit only

[grizzled iris]

if you didnt had omeganum as option, then no

[echo jacinth]

no, infinity is E10#10#10...#10 with 1000 10s

[hushed totem]

which card is that

[grizzled iris]

in another note, i just got a negative negative joker

fascinating

[hushed totem]

wait im dumb

[strange oxide]

there actually is no infinity in talisman's omeganum, the game will just stop being able to handle it at some point past that

[grizzled iris]

so ill never put "Infinity", right?

[oak herald]

barring some bug, yes

[strange oxide]

nane0

[grizzled iris]

ok

[strange oxide]

actually what's up with nane0

[grizzled iris]

ill keep it going till it crashes then

surprisingly, its going faster than before

[hushed totem]

what version of talisman should i have?

i have 2.00 betta 1

[grizzled iris]

me too

you want the omegaNum thingy?

[strange oxide]

yeah that should be right

[grizzled iris]

if you want the omegaNum output go to settings > spectral pack > Talisman and the system you want (requires restart)

@hushed totem

ok i found a way to make the later antes less laggy

when you have a lot of things

just disable screenshake

it went from 1 frame a second to at least 10 back again

[hushed totem]

ok

ok that makes sence now i only have bigNUM :X

is number blocks completely random or does it do it based off what i have in my deck

[summer cargo]

what you have in your hand

[hushed totem]

no like when it chooses a card

[grizzled iris]

its getting lower and i dont know why

[summer cargo]

looking at the code, it only goes off cards in your deck

[hushed totem]

so if i onyl have kings it will only choose kings?

[summer cargo]

think so

[hushed totem]

ok

[summer cargo]

it's reusing the code from Castle that checks ipairs(G.playing_cards) so

[subtle nova]

For whoever is fixing this, you have to tell if what bljnd it is going to spawn in

[hushed totem]

ok

[grizzled iris]

ok, so- if you have a perkeo who summons the tarot cards, it slows the game radically

i just sold 3 of them and now im back as before in performance

also

that

im still on game

[hushed totem]

whats the point in that many hanged mans

canvas + blueprint + brainstorm + waluigi + speculo+ exponeta is too broken i often crash my game with it

[grizzled iris]

i just got two negative waluigis

cryptic greatest mod of any game ever

[hushed totem]

somone needs to make a joker screen mod

where there is a button next to the jokers where you can choose what order all the jokers go in so i dont have to pixel perfect it later

[grizzled iris]

we keep on rolling i guess

[grizzled iris]

YES

i was 5 minutes trying to get the perkeos out

[hushed totem]

ye soem but with speculo earlyer

uh oh

my games already crashing

[hasty rose]

What does cat tag do? Or is it just meme that floats till the end of the run

[hushed totem]

@grizzled iris 1 round

[grizzled iris]

damn

[hasty rose]

few

[grizzled iris]

1 round-ish

[hasty rose]

misprint deck?

[grizzled iris]

wished

just a blueprint one

[hushed totem]

im not done yet ok

[hasty rose]

ok, fair enough

[grizzled iris]

imagine a joker, but that functioned like that gravity falls dice

like a "real" misprint

[hushed totem]

thats only A fraction of waluigis POWER

[grizzled iris]

gave up

[hushed totem]

GG

[grizzled iris]

played 152 cards (1 card 152 times) (thats a blatant lie)

well

that was my second playthrough of the mod

after knowing of its existance 3 hours ago

10/10 will play again (when i have more time)

[summer cargo]

Funny thing is you can do this with a controller

Game is pay to win smh my head

[grizzled iris]

rlly?

damn

[summer cargo]

since controller UI allows you to use the dpad to specifically go back and forth 1 joker at a time no matter how dense they are

[grizzled iris]

balatro dev looking like one of those aaa game companies

[summer cargo]

and then hold A and move to reorganize

[hushed totem]

whats the best edition on a card

[grizzled iris]

good to know

[summer cargo]

negative

[hushed totem]

i need that

can i get that on equalibrium deck?

[grizzled iris]

not on the deck

yes on the cards

[hushed totem]

😒

how

do i get it on the cards

[summer cargo]

negative deck

I don't think there's an actual way to apply it to cards yet

[hushed totem]

ok so besides negitive

since i cant get it in equalibrium

[grizzled iris]

what are we talking abt now?? coz i can get negative cards

[remote locust]

Astral for playing cards

^1.1 Mult is very good if you have enough mult beforehand

[hushed totem]

playing cards i want the best card i can get for high carding

[grizzled iris]

those are the purple ones, right?

[remote locust]

yes

[grizzled iris]

yes

i think

[hushed totem]

can i apply it somehow

[grizzled iris]

maybe

idk

[remote locust]

Astral Deck or hope it spawns naturally with Illusion

[hushed totem]

or am i up to the mercy of the standard packs

[remote locust]

or standard packs

[grizzled iris]

OH we were talking about the card itself

im so used to calling jokers just "card"

[remote locust]

i u need terminology call them "playing cards"

[hushed totem]

i did

the second time

[grizzled iris]

yeah i didnt see the second message

[remote locust]

i wasn't talking to you

[grizzled iris]

damn

[hushed totem]

can i get a negitive card from a negiitve standard pack

[grizzled iris]

i-probably not?

[remote locust]

not since the last time i've checked but that could have changed

[hushed totem]

theoreticly?

[remote locust]

you CAN get negatives cards from antimatter though

[hushed totem]

i mean i get negitive tarot cards from a negitive acana pack

[grizzled iris]

im so confused, are we talking about joker cards, playing cards, or just cards in general

[hushed totem]

PLAYING CARDS

[grizzled iris]

like the tarot and planet ones

[remote locust]

playing cards

[hushed totem]

we have been for like froever

[grizzled iris]

ok now i get it

in my two playthroughs today

i never saw a negative playing card

[remote locust]

Negative Deck and Antimatter Deck have them

[grizzled iris]

ok, now i get it

my brain didnt brain

[hushed totem]

i give up im just going to take the card i have

[remote locust]

k

[grizzled iris]

just do what i did and stack 900 hanged mans

its the strat

[remote locust]

The Tax:

[grizzled iris]

reroll boss ante:

[remote locust]

fair

[hushed totem]

what is the tax

[grizzled iris]

also, question: what does the error joker...do? because i thought it would be a more crazy misprint joker but it never did anything

[remote locust]

a boss blind which caps your score at 40% of the blind requirement

[grizzled iris]

ante boss

[hushed totem]

oh that one

[remote locust]

wait for the ??? status text then sell it

[grizzled iris]

a messed up individual

[hushed totem]

oh no

[grizzled iris]

rip run

[hushed totem]

too many blueprints

and brainstorms

waluigi is too powerful

[grizzled iris]

my pc must be from nasa, i reached round 50 with 3 blueprints and 5 brainstroms

[remote locust]

those probably weren't the issue

[hushed totem]

how?

they make canvas go crazy

[remote locust]

canvas is the issue

[hushed totem]

bruh cant ti just take more proeccing power

[remote locust]

u want ur whole PC to be balatro?

[hushed totem]

sure bet

[karmic wraith]

who doesn't?

[grizzled iris]

imagine the posibilities

[remote locust]

you guys are odd

[karmic wraith]

todd

[grizzled iris]

we play a poker rougelike

[hushed totem]

i just want to see big number not not responding

[grizzled iris]

what did you expect

[remote locust]

poker players /j

[grizzled iris]

people with crippling adicctions to bets /j

[hushed totem]

its only useing a little bit of my memory i want it to use more

why cant ti use like 4gb of ememory

[remote locust]

that's probably a bad idea

[hushed totem]

why

[grizzled iris]

there should be a setting to how much cpu to cap it on

like

[remote locust]

if it's not using more memeroy there's probably a reason

[bleak parcel]

Tenebris omg calamity mod reference

[grizzled iris]

probably

[hushed totem]

im going to wait to hope it starts responding again

[grizzled iris]

what is your highscore @hushed totem

in that run

[hushed totem]

idk it crashed

[grizzled iris]

rip

[hushed totem]

wasnt that high becasie i was scaleing still

[remote locust]

get on my level /j

[hushed totem]

wut

[grizzled iris]

wut

we started doing mathematical sht

[hushed totem]

how do i see high score

[devout geyser]

oh that's pentation

[grizzled iris]

stats

on the menu

[remote locust]

yes

[devout geyser]

wild

[hushed totem]

it says 0 idk why

[grizzled iris]

dont know then

[remote locust]

(not a legitimate score btw don't try beating it)

[hushed totem]

im goign to try to just have canvas use exponata insted of waluigi

[grizzled iris]

the moment i saw parenthesis i knew

[grizzled iris]

thats what i did

it gets exponata to an unbelievebly high number

[hushed totem]

i got infinity

im goign to switch to big big number

[grizzled iris]

switch to omega

switch to big man numbers /j

[remote locust]

record for cryptid if i recall is eee6

[grizzled iris]

big numba

[remote locust]

indeed

[grizzled iris]

i might try another run tonight

[oak herald]

eee7 when

[grizzled iris]

might try another decks

i liked the equilibrium deck coz, randomness

[hushed totem]

nooooooo ti did nto save my game

[remote locust]

don't forget to try other mod if you haven't already

[grizzled iris]

yea

[hushed totem]

welp im just redo it but in antimatter

what other mod

[remote locust]

the other mods for Balatro

[grizzled iris]

the one that caught my eye was the math one

[remote locust]

Math Blinds?

[hushed totem]

oh

what card should i keep to be THE CARD

[grizzled iris]

2 or 10 for numbered, kings for faced

choose wisely

[remote locust]

what?

[hushed totem]

no you choose im doing the same strat i just did

[grizzled iris]

wrong person

do kings

[clear hare]

Do 7s

[remote locust]

best rank

[clear hare]

Because this is Cryptid so they have a lot of support

[grizzled iris]

god spoke

[hushed totem]

i dont mean rank i mean card

i can change the number at any time

[grizzled iris]

oh, astral then

big numba

[hushed totem]

save the image and cirlce the card

[remote locust]

astral glass 5 of spades

[clear hare]

^^^

with red seal

[grizzled iris]

yeah

[hushed totem]

ok

il delte everythign else and make a lot fo coppies

[grizzled iris]

im doing a run now, i have unlimited time

tell me a deck

[remote locust]

Red Deck

[grizzled iris]

i do not like you
but ok

[strange oxide]

medium deck

[grizzled iris]

having a deck full of purple seals looks weird

its like a photoshop wallpaper

[strange oxide]

lmao

[grizzled iris]

sick wallpaper

red bloon as first joker, call me the tax company

crying

[hushed totem]

how do you get the op expontia joker

[remote locust]

Gateway

[hushed totem]

no like the op one

i have thi

this

i cant find any better ones what about the one tiwh like OP op ones

[remote locust]

Misprint or Glitched

[hushed totem]

like how do you get this

[umbral dagger]

double scale

[hushed totem]

im in antimatter

what is that

[remote locust]

epic joker

[grizzled iris]

half true

only one scaler but i had over 20 jokers with x2 thingys

[umbral dagger]

it'll still take ages to scale it that high without double scale even if you have tons of retriggers

[grizzled iris]

im playing an glitched (misprint) deck

[grizzled iris]

then i maybe had double

[hushed totem]

oh is that how you got the gain ^400

[umbral dagger]

ye, makes scaling jokers increase their scaling quadratically every time they proc

[hushed totem]

oh i see now

[grizzled iris]

crazy idea: for glitched jokers, cards, packs, whatever
change the prize too

make a +0.2 mult joker more than 50 dollars

[umbral dagger]

misprint deck already does that, that'd just make glitched be a lot worse of an edition

[grizzled iris]

would go crazy with plasma deck

[grizzled iris]

reallly?

[umbral dagger]

yeah misprint deck randomizes prices too

[grizzled iris]

didnt realize

[hushed totem]

i totaly did not just get rid of all my cards and lose and not have to remake thet glass astral 5 of spades noooo

[grizzled iris]

it would look like you did

[hushed totem]

i did 😭

[grizzled iris]

i do love free money

[hushed totem]

does that mean that you get more than 2 $ or just 2

[grizzled iris]

just two (i think)

im gonna try ascendant stake

for the funnies

[remote locust]

it's either stupid easy or stupid hard

never is it a fair challenge

[grizzled iris]

realized too soon

...

3 dollars off

[clear hare]

Because it’s glitched

[grizzled iris]

i know

but still

3 dollars off

[soft night]

3 doolr

[grizzled iris]

3 dlr

[vestal seal]

3

[karmic wraith]

:3

[remote locust]

11

[vestal seal]

m

[grizzled iris]

funi numba

i have been misled

[hushed totem]

how

[grizzled iris]

i was playing the wrong deck for half and hour and i just realized

any way

[karmic wraith]

by Spu7nix

[grizzled iris]

debt

[grizzled iris]

wild gd reference

[hushed totem]

i have a lot of sorting to do

[grizzled iris]

damn

330 CARDS WAIT

srry, jokers

[hushed totem]

ive had 2000 before

game did not like it in the slightest

[grizzled iris]

i just bought the cube for negative 30 dollars

a cube walked up to me and gave me 30 bucks

[fierce creek]

30 thats strange

[strange oxide]

misprint effects:

[grizzled iris]

pro tip: if you have +8 hand size, dont buy something that has -8 hand size

found the cat

[strange oxide]

Ⓜ️eow

[green terrace]

curious what's the difference between 1.5 X scored 20 times and 1.1^ mult scored 20 times

Aren't they both exponential and the 1.5 is actually better?

[strange oxide]

not really

[summer cargo]

repeated ^1.1 is tetrational

which is a lot faster for higher bases

[echo jacinth]

no.
10 billion ^1.1 = 100 billion
10 billion x1.5 = 15 billion

[strange oxide]

exponential mult is to a number's exponent what XMult is to the number itself

[summer cargo]

10 x1.5 20 times is ~33000, 10 ^1.1 20 times is about 5.3 million

[upper veldt]

can someone explain the math of ^1.1

what is 5 ^1.1 and why

[green terrace]

very small, exponential really matters in the higher numbers (10, 000)

[upper veldt]

and why is that

[snow rivet]

It's complicated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GipavLCnke0

[strange oxide]

basically it's multiplying a number by its tenth root

[green terrace]

it's easier to explain when you have a number like 10,000,000,000 honestly

[upper veldt]

okay

[strange oxide]

it's easier to think about if you already have something in exponent notation

say 10^10

(10^10)^1.1, you multiply the exponents, so you get 10^10*1.1, which is 10^11

[green terrace]

^0.5 halves the exponential, turns 10, 000 into 100 (halves the zeroes)

[upper veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-my-beloved-gif-22029076

and 10^11 is massive compared to 10^10? like 10x as big?

am i getting that right

[snow rivet]

So 5^1.1 is technically 5^11/10, or the tenth root of 5 to the power of 11.

[upper veldt]

i see

[strange oxide]

I'd argue one order of magnitude isn't a "massive" difference

especially at the scale of numbers we have with this mod

[upper veldt]

as a player who doesn't use epic or exotic jokers

astral is pretty huge

[green terrace]

if you had say 1000 and ^2 you'd have 1000,000

if you had ^3 it'd go

1000,000,000 so yes, quite the difference

[strange oxide]

yeah and it does get better for larger numbers

say you had 1e100, ^1.1 mult would now bump you up to 1e110

so times 10 billion

[lament citrus]

Where i can donwload the mod?

[green terrace]

check the pins

a mix of glitched and astral seems to have the highest potential

glitched for a much higher start

[upper veldt]

i will be sure to regard astral much higher now

just slapping an astral joker on the right side sounds like it'd be pretty good

omw to manifest a run containing

perkeo
white hole
2x big bang from fusion jokers
and an astral joker

[green terrace]

I think the converer deck probably has the best gimick in the game in terms of challenge + reward from the mod

[upper veldt]

does the conveyor deck care about eternal

can you stop it with an eternal joker

[green terrace]

no idea

but I learned last night perishible jokers like the bean override eternal sticker so most likely eternal gets overwritten

[lament citrus]

When I try to download the mod my anti virus blocks it saying it is trojan virus

[green terrace]

only thing I don't like about steam modded

turn off your anti virus to download it

[lament citrus]

but why it says it is a trojan virus

[strange oxide]

it's not even about steamodded, it's just lovely now

[lament citrus]

Norton is kinda fucked up

[upper veldt]

false positive because of the nature of lovely

[strange oxide]

basically lovely acts like a trojan, modifying the code a process runs

[upper veldt]

norton allows you to exclude the file

you should probably switch off norton though

[strange oxide]

it's not a virus though, it's literally open source

[upper veldt]

windows defender is enough as long as you have internet connection

[green terrace]

it thinks it's one

imagine the news if a wanted criminal was wearing a blue shirst and red pants

the cops are looking for him

well your anti virus thinks the download is wearing a blue shirst and red pants

[strange oxide]

it would not have been up on github for long, were it malware

[upper veldt]

who the fuck wears a blue shirst with red pants

[green terrace]

essentially the download 'looks like a virus, but isn't'

[upper veldt]

red PANTS??

[strange oxide]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/01.-Getting-started#about-anti-virus-issues i even added this to the steamodded docs because i got tired of explaining 💀

[upper veldt]

idk why but ^1.1 feels like it was designed for this mod

it's just so cryptidcoded to have something be more useful the larger the number is

[green terrace]

being honest

I wish Local would make Balatro moddable to the point stuff like Lovely isn't needed so this annoying issue doesn't come up

[lament citrus]

What is he working on?

the mobile port?

[green terrace]

btw how do you get fusion jokers?

[upper veldt]

buy both material jokers

then pay a set price and they fuse

they lose editions and stickers when this happens

[strange oxide]

we don't know until he shares leaks

[upper veldt]

big bang is made with supernova and constellation

and gives 0.1x mult per level of the played hand, and 0.1x mult per time it was played

so playing a level 10 hand you played 10 times makes it give 2x mult

[green terrace]

does the option just show up if the jokers are next to each other?

[upper veldt]

they dont need to be next o each other

you just need to own both

[strange oxide]

but according the steam db, the internal experimental branch has bee active

[upper veldt]

and then click on the joker and a "fuse" button is there

they shake imitating when DNA is ready if there's an available fusion in your slots

[green terrace]

is this a hidden mechanic? (because fusion jokers aren't in the collection)

[upper veldt]

they are in the collection

they're undiscovered until you get them once

if there isn't 1 page of undiscovered jokers in collection, the mod wasn't installed properly

even if you don't have the other joker available, you can click on a joker and the fuse button will be greyed out

as long as it has a registered fusion

[strange oxide]

i keep seeing calls for steam workshop, but there's lots of potential issues

[upper veldt]

jestobiology adds more fusions with morefluff and arcanum, fusion jokers adds 15 base game fusions and 2 extras for six suits

[grizzled iris]

kats

[upper veldt]

glitched cat be like

Woof

[strange oxide]

first and foremost, lovely has become too essential to abandon + anything more basic just won't cut it

[upper veldt]

if you're looking at fusion jokers i also recommend https://ptb.discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1249450412143153266

joker evolution keeps the stickers and editions

fusion jokers is on 0.9.8, but it's fully compatible with 1.0.0, i've never run into any issues with it that are 1.0.0 exclusive

[strange oxide]

also making balatro code actually moddable out of the box, it'd take a giant refactor and a half

which would break most if not all pre-existing mods

[upper veldt]

also fusion jokers don't count as being the materials so you can get the materials again

[green terrace]

balatro has 235/235 joker cards

the ace card in the title screen is glitched so.......shrugs

[upper veldt]

must not be installed properly

[subtle nova]

I would like to add, Balatro has been out for like 6 months, it's modding scene is not mature and stuff is going to change

[lament citrus]

Anyone knows how to disable instant scoring?

[raven wedge]

balatro has been out for 3 years and we were expected to have an ingame mod browser smhsmh

[raven wedge]

settings > spectral pack > talisman

[subtle nova]

Also smods 9.8 is 3 months old that's crazy

[lament citrus]

thank you

[upper veldt]

video of fusion because i got a half decent one and wanted to record it

spoilered because fusion jokers incentivises finding the combinations yourself and i dont want people getting pissy abt being spoiled

[grizzled iris]

me when company

[green terrace]

what's the latest version of the mod?

[mental tiger]

Playing Typhoon deck on the latest release, and I love it. Jokerless, Enhancementless, And editionless.

[green terrace]

I misunderstood something

fusions aren't a part of the cryptic mod (I thought they were)

they are a different mod

[upper veldt]

oh lol

[green terrace]

sometimes the littelest solution solves a big problem lol

[upper veldt]

i still recommend it

[green terrace]

dw I got it

looks like jokers to help with the mid game

ok got them all installed

you know what'd be cool

an epic joker that increases the odds of mosiacs/glitched/astral/blurred/over saturated cards popping up in the shop evenly

[upper veldt]

big bang is good for endgame with white hole

[green terrace]

modded decks I reccomend

• infinite deck (can discard as many cards at once as you wish, main draw)
• conveyer deck (duping cards, but has a big draw back and you can't reshuffle cards)
  -crit deck (adds true unpredictability)
• redeem deck (just to go through vouchers quicker)
• wormhole can be fun but is a bit too op starting off with an exotic

[nocturne lodge]

WE LOVE DEBT

[patent mango]

guh

they moved upwards when i selected the blind th

[green terrace]

they are watching you

they know what you did

[grizzled iris]

URAH URAH !!!!!!1!!!

[green terrace]

a recurring crash

Anaglyph deck

When I choose the 'Trade' spectral option the game crashes, every time

[lament citrus]

yeah this mod is indeed broken

[civic acorn]

Bluds are speaking like an SCP document. 💀

/j

[grizzled iris]

glory to everything

[hushed totem]

oops i crashed balatro with dna

too many cards

How many brainstorms should i delete til it stops crashing

[remote locust]

canvas

[hushed totem]

nO THATS MY SCALING

[remote locust]

scaling or crashing

[hushed totem]

i need scaling but no crashing

i need balatro to proessess better

i need a mass delete feature

[remote locust]

Hex

[hushed totem]

but thats too much mass delete

i need to delete half of the brainstorms

[remote locust]

get clicking

[hushed totem]

fine

i need balatro to be better i cant get big numbers because of this

BRUh

i give up

big number is super hard

[hushed totem]

that isnt EVEN THE PROBLEM

would it not crash better if i turned of the talisman thing that makes it go instantly

ima be an idiot aand try

that doesnt even help 😭

i cant get it to work

[green terrace]

how many retrigger jokers do you have?

[hushed totem]

i have a canvas and i have like 100 brain storms and like 50 blueprints and a waluigi

[hushed totem]

a lot

none retrigger the played card i dont think tho

[green terrace]

just keep your best one or 2 and go on from there

blue print and brain storm are relatively easy to get late ante in this mod

[hushed totem]

but then i dont get a BIG scaleing

also i do this on antimatter

[green terrace]

how many canvases do you have?

[hushed totem]

1

[green terrace]

try eliminating 10 brainstorms at a time each crash lol

[hushed totem]

i got rid of the canvas and it was still crashing

i just gave up to go remake it so it wont crash

[green terrace]

what was your highest scoring joker?

[hushed totem]

?

[green terrace]

what would you say gave the single most profit that didn't rely on other jokers (such as primus)

[hushed totem]

THE 1 exponeta im trying to scale

[green terrace]

have you tried the M route?

[hushed totem]

this is ususaly my settup but like WAY more blueprints and brainstorms

[hushed totem]

no?

[green terrace]

m stacking is basicaly infinite retriggers on cards

[vestal seal]

activate windows

[chrome zephyr]

can someone post download link please

[vestal seal]

you can copy canvas btw

[hushed totem]

but does canvas work on canvas

[vestal seal]

actually dont know

[hushed totem]

i dint think it does

[green terrace]

get a glitched version of the card (Error)

then find a way to generate jolly jokers

[chrome zephyr]

how do i find download link

[snow rivet]

Would the Spectrum version of Steel Wheel be called Golden Wheel or Bismuth Wheel?

[green terrace]

actually i'm assuming that's the joker that makes negatives right?

[hushed totem]

yes

it copys a random card and give it negitive

[green terrace]

try copying an 'Error' if you can find one

[livid palm]

hmmmmmmmmm

[hushed totem]

forgot what it looks like

[green terrace]

it's purple and says ERR0R

you really can't miss it

it's an Epic

[hushed totem]

ok

[chrome zephyr]

how do i find download link

[hushed totem]

but i can

[chrome zephyr]

lol

[hushed totem]

found it

[green terrace]

it really sticks out

once you have it negative copied a few times play about 10 rounds then sell 1

[vestal seal]

its pinned

[hushed totem]

what els was i sposed to have

[green terrace]

kind of it, ERR0R is wacky once you've experienced it

All jokers and cards in the shop are now glitched and it just gets wackier

[hushed totem]

how is it sposed to help me

[green terrace]

after 5-10 rounds.....it duplicates everything....and those dupes are also glitched, yes even exponentia and spec

need to sell 1 Error for the dupe, but wait after 5-10 rounds

[hushed totem]

so what els goes good with that

[green terrace]

what is your exponentia at?

[hushed totem]

double scale

[green terrace]

ah the glicthed one...that from Error or you found it naturally?

[hushed totem]

found natualy

is ti bad its glitched

[vestal seal]

only if the values are lower

[green terrace]

at times lower is better depending on what the card does

my fav modded joker in the game isn't really the most overpowered one

it's actually 😄

[hushed totem]

UM...

[green terrace]

how many jokers did you create from Error?

[hushed totem]

none yet

ok im going to start another run what should i do

antimater still?

or some other deck

[hushed totem]

^^^^

[hollow berry]

m

[green terrace]

i'm guesssing alot

[hushed totem]

none

i never sold an error yet

what deck should i start with

[green terrace]

want a challenge or easy mode?

[hushed totem]

idk i just want big numbers

what are the options for both

[oak herald]

if you purely want that, try antimatter

[hushed totem]

what exotic should i start with

for this whole error build thing

[clear hare]

crustulum

[hushed totem]

fair

[clear hare]

btw something to tell you for this

||error doesn't duplicate other errors||

[hushed totem]

oh ok

[clear hare]

so you'd have to buy them all naturally

and also ||canvas triggers the timer multiple times||

so that can ensure that the sell effect always works after 1 round

[hushed totem]

wait so i want the error under the effect of canvas when i sell

[green terrace]

Math wouldn't Speculio generate more errors though?

[clear hare]

it would

[clear hare]

(the round before)

[fierce creek]

Idk why I keep running out of slots with all negatives and tenebris

[clear hare]

ngl speculo might be better then if you don't feel like rerolling for it

[green terrace]

Math is the copied glitched card considered a new base?

if my 2 of glitched clubs gave 20 chips, does copying the 2 potentially reroll that even higher to 200?

[fierce creek]

I used a replica and lost even more slots.

[clear hare]

if you're on the release then yes

i don't think that's true anymore in source code

[green terrace]

M book is almost a necessity imo for joker slot generation

[hushed totem]

what do do now

what joker do i get

[green terrace]

if you've played a few rounds, sell 1 (Error)

[hushed totem]

any more jokers i should get before?

[green terrace]

the world is your oyster, just pick up anything that looks cool

[hushed totem]

wont my game crash eventualy

[green terrace]

yes which is why you should target specific jokers and limit yourself

you get BIG numbers eventually

[hushed totem]

what jokers are the best

[clear hare]

speculo canvas

[hushed totem]

but those arnt scoring or mult

[green terrace]

technically does the Astra deck have the highest ceiling?

[clear hare]

are you trying to get the highest score possible?

[clear hare]

since you can't get negatives

[green terrace]

he wants BIG numbers

[clear hare]

i have the current wr afaik so i can tell you the strategy

[green terrace]

negative astral joker wants a word with you

[vestal seal]

probably equilibrium excluding antimatter

[grizzled iris]

tell us the formula

[vestal seal]

or maybe misprint

[hushed totem]

what is it

i mean the Wr not the stratagy

[oak herald]

ee1.544e6 iirc

[grizzled iris]

prolly scuared up and exponetial

yeah

[grizzled iris]

thought so

[clear hare]

it didn't score tho for some reason

probably a talisman issue

[mental tiger]

Where do you get this mod?

[oak herald]

insert incremental game joke here

[mental tiger]

hi

[vestal seal]

pinned

[clear hare]

📌

[mental tiger]

thx pookies

[clear hare]

i'd highly recommend watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUr0gXE77rk

[vestal seal]

there are two good incremental games

[oak herald]

You have ee1.544e6 antimatter.

[grizzled iris]

somebody knows the wr with the very fair deck?

[clear hare]

idk

[grizzled iris]

like, somebody posted theirs here?

[clear hare]

antimatter dimensions? /j

[clear hare]

I know someone beat it in ascendant stake

[grizzled iris]

damn

[hushed totem]

what do you use for mult

[vestal seal]

me :3

[hushed totem]

ior does exponets count as xmult

[vestal seal]

exponentia double scale shenanigans are definitely the play for high score

[green terrace]

you can generate space

[vestal seal]

as well as speculo canvas

[grizzled iris]

yeah

i was for a good run a couple hours ago

but it was a 1 card deck

and i clicked discard by accident

lol

[clear hare]

my strategy was basically:
exponentia double scale iterum for scaling
use speculo to dupe exponentia (the values reset for double scale so it can scale much faster)
once I had an exponentia I was happy with, use speculo to duplicate that and canvas until the game lags out

i think eee7 might be possible if you go all the way to e308 with exponentia (i didn't want to spend so long scaling it) and use more jokers in your final score

[green terrace]

we really need a boss that can scale up like the jokers can

[hushed totem]

iterum?

[clear hare]

there's two :)

(that scale based on time)

[hushed totem]

do the exponetia scale themselms?

[grizzled iris]

the clock makes my heartrate go up exponentially

[green terrace]

clock is worse pre ante 8

[vestal seal]

no

[clear hare]

actually I later switched to waluigi i think

you need XMult triggers

[hushed totem]

💀

[grizzled iris]

clock is the worst at ante 1/2

[hushed totem]

i tried that the way i did it tho kept crashing

[green terrace]

at a certain point it doesn't matter

tax is straight annoying

[grizzled iris]

coz you have to either speedrun the rounds or skip them with no jokers

[grizzled iris]

yeah

[clear hare]

or get good scoring

[grizzled iris]

only reason i buy skip boss ante

[vestal seal]

the voucher you mean?

[grizzled iris]

yea

[vestal seal]

there are also nostalgic blinds way worse than tax

[mental tiger]

rip it crashed when I opened it

[vestal seal]

tax pretty easy ngl

[clear hare]

you can thank me for the tax

[hushed totem]

i tried this but it kept crashing

[grizzled iris]

"no flush" what

why

[vestal seal]

they used to be in the game

[mental tiger]

Where do I go for crashes support?

[clear hare]

especially since tax was changed to not spawn when it's physically impossible

[green terrace]

Math a boss idea I had

'Count Down'

Multiplies your score by 1

Every turn decreases the multiplication by 0.1

So 1, then 0.9, then 0.8 etc all the way to 0

[clear hare]

https://discord.gg/eUf9Ur6RyB

[mental tiger]

Alright thx

[grizzled iris]

you a wicked one

[hushed totem]

mathisfun can you tell me why that no work

[clear hare]

there are some similar ideas like that in nostalgic blinds

i think there's one that's "divide mult by discards"

[green terrace]

imagine it with tax combined lol

divide by discards is p easy to get around

[grizzled iris]

worse: imagine the mult going down, and the tax gets even tighter

the target score still the same

[green terrace]

I have a love/hate relationship with The Clock

[grizzled iris]

so like: 240 scored capped by tax
mult goes down, and now its 180 scored capped by tax

[clear hare]

there's a blind in #1251538877156425738 that punishes overshooting

[grizzled iris]

hell

[clear hare]

so if you're scoring e100 in ante 8 every hand you can't win

[green terrace]

great boss, except on the first Ante you're like ..... : /

[grizzled iris]

the 2x one? i hated that one

more with misprint deck

[remote locust]

the 2x one?

[clear hare]

obscure overshoot

[hushed totem]

i WOULD have the record if the game would stop crashing

[remote locust]

do you even know the record?

[hushed totem]

kinda

[grizzled iris]

eee6, no?

[remote locust]

that's it if i recall

[hushed totem]

ye it would not be too hard if crashing was not a thing

[clear hare]

ngl i think incantation for jokers would be possible after a calculation rewrite

[grizzled iris]

at some point you do turn kind of immortal

[patent mango]

nooo i just barely missed out on the chance to beat very fair deck ascendant stake

so close yet so far

[clear hare]

m7

[hushed totem]

whats that

[clear hare]

consumable stacking

[hushed totem]

oh ok

[green terrace]

Another boss idea

'Explesive'

Boss score is 1 'Ante' e

[grizzled iris]

Boss ante "perfeccionist" if you dont get the score to the exact number you lose

[green terrace]

something like the Ante itself is the exponential number

[clear hare]

10^ante

[vestal seal]

gambler tag abuse?

[clear hare]

imagine a ^2 base boss blind

[vestal seal]

oh no

[grizzled iris]

bad in normal antes, nightmare in endless ones

[clear hare]

violeter vessel

[vestal seal]

nah thats 22500 ante 1

[scenic pumice]

nightmare in normal antes, fine in endless since this is cryptid

[vestal seal]

not just bad

[green terrace]

in endless you're going 1 e1.e1000 or whatever the number is

get things to shoot over

[grizzled iris]

a boss ante that grabs your best score on the run and it mults it 25%

[green terrace]

another idea

past Ante 39 every round is a boss fight

[grizzled iris]

like a late end ascendent stake?

[green terrace]

I use 39 because it's technically the end in vanilla

i'm on Amber stake, how many are past there 'the stake that makes rarer jokers harder to come by'

[grizzled iris]

Ascendent stake is like the worst vanilla stake, but with autodestructive bananas

and everything is trying hard to kill you

or make you pay your taxes

which is worse

now that i think abt it, is there a anti-cryptid? Like a mod that only tries to balance everything to the max?

[patent mango]

there are mods that try but i havent seen any do a very good job

xD

[grizzled iris]

lol

like a plasma deck, but with EVERYTHING

[hushed totem]

whats the formula for the es again

like how doi know if im getting anywhere close

[green terrace]

the whole entire point of the game in vanilla is to break it so you auto win lol

I have no issues with an unbalanced joker if it's exceedingly rare to get/hard to come by

I mean, Perkio exists lol

[hushed totem]

it takes 34 seconds to play a hand

[grizzled iris]

rookie number, get those up

[grizzled iris]

today i had a hidden perkio in my jokers and i duped 300 hanged mans

so

its not really that hard

[versed bay]

Speculo Canvas might be the fastest possible way to brick your run

[green terrace]

getting the perkio and early enough is the tough part 'vanilla wise'

[hushed totem]

yes it is i want someone to mke a "balatro not responding any% run"

[green terrace]

isn't there a crash card coming?

or is that another mod?

[versed bay]

It’s this mod though I don’t think the actual effect is to just crash the game

[snow rivet]

Just added a bunch of Sub-Hands to the suggestion box. This has been a useful resource. Also apparently the term "flush house" actually has been used before, for a much less powerful hand than what Balatro uses the term for (3 cards of one suit, 2 of another). Could call that a House Flush to avoid confusion, but I don't think it could be a sub-hand of anything. Maybe as its own thing?

[grizzled iris]

easy:

start the run
go through some antes
reduce your hand size
go negative on your hand size
crash error
gg

[green terrace]

actually just get Sus, win the round and have nothing in your hand for it to choose

[hushed totem]

not crash balatro not responding

this

[green terrace]

I think Universum is one of the better designed exotics both in design and functionality

[clear hare]

patience

[clear hare]

the only issue with it is that the wording doesn't rly tell you if it's going to apply on level down

[green terrace]

one of my pet peeves with vanilla is poker hands become very obsolete late game......ok a lot of things do and I wish there was more variety in vanilla to get to Ante 30+

[clear hare]

i'm glad that there were two ee308 strats in cryptid the way things panned out, makes it more interesting (^Mult and Canvas, or Universum and White Hole and Hammerspace/CCD/Perkeo)

[green terrace]

Effacaire is probably the best early game Exotic, but is mid past Ante 8 (unless it's a Baron run)

[hushed totem]

im guessing double scale does not stack

[oak herald]

tbh i might take primus over effacaire early game

scales way faster than exponentia and can easily be scaled in the first few antes

[green terrace]

thing is you need to win right away after getting an exotic and you only likely have primus then

[clear hare]

iterum

[oak herald]

yeah thats amazing

[oak herald]

could be a problem

[clear hare]

any 5-card hand gives you hundreds of thousands of points as a base and you can scale more with chips/xmult/retriggers

[green terrace]

it's why Eternal Jokers are actually important

[umbral dagger]

yeah I stan iterum for an early game exotic

[clear hare]

madness:

[green terrace]

Crus is basically an auto win if you can survive 1 round

[oak herald]

rental exotic jokers on DoE are funny

[green terrace]

infinite rerolls and basically infinite money

and constantly scaling chips

low on money, just reroll till you get temprence lol

[hushed totem]

ye then just keep rerolling

[green terrace]

you basically have a surplus of Epics ready, it's only a matter of when not if

I actually want to try Redeo for as much ante 1s as I want

[hushed totem]

mathisfun how many more should i get

[green terrace]

universum actually makes double tags much more valuable know that i think on it

[summer cargo]

[patent mango]

ascendant vfd inc??????? Pog

looool

[karmic wraith]

i don't exactly get what Double Scale does
so like if a jonkler scales 1 mult at a time, does it go to +1 -> +2 -> +4 -> +7 -> +11 etc etc?

[patent mango]

what

[karmic wraith]

me is not understand

[patent mango]

basically imagine if instead of scaling the amount on the joker itself

it scales the amount it scales by instead

[karmic wraith]

oh

[patent mango]

so for example like groker

[karmic wraith]

i think i get it now

[patent mango]

instead of giving +1, +2, +3, etc. mult

it GAINS +1, +2, +3, etc. mult

so in total its 1, 3, 6, 10, etc.

[karmic wraith]

ok ok, makes sense, thank you

[patent mango]

lmfao

NOOOOO

[patent mango]

these voucher replacements are really funny

[oak herald]

curse you jimbo

[patent mango]

wtf is my standard pack doing

i can drag them around and put them wherever i want too

[green terrace]

the next time I see Analog i'm using it on redeo

[patent mango]

thats a horrible idea

[green terrace]

3DO

[patent mango]

ngl i dont like redeo because you 99% of the time you end up in a cycle of net-losing antes

[green terrace]

just don't use the shop for a bit really

and use The Joke for Laughs

"Ok.......i'm ready for Ante 8 now"

[karmic wraith]

lmao, that voucher replacement is my favorite one

[mental tiger]

why this so unbalanced

[karmic wraith]

unbalanced = fun ig

[mental tiger]

ok

[patent mango]

VERY FAIR INDEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!

vfd ascendant stake COMPLETE