Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]

[clear hare]

$$$

[wispy veldt]

It is also a crash loop lol

[clear hare]

lmao

gonna need to start using omeganum on that

[clear hare]

actually I shouldn't because I'm gonna break 20 mods by adding that

[oak herald]

should be CRITCAL HIT!!! and be colored green and play the tf2 crit sound for funny

i would also take just the tf2 crit sound

[clear hare]

nah i just used ^Mult sound

and timpani sound for a miss

[oak herald]

😔

[clear hare]

anyway lemme try and beat this deck

[karmic wraith]

oh god
don't tell me all of the old boss blinds are there

[wispy veldt]

So uh duplicating a scaling joker while using double scale will allow you to exponentially increase the scaling

[clear hare]

yep

[karmic wraith]

the mark

[clear hare]

the arm

[oak herald]

i forget what was old mark effecr

[clear hare]

no hands containing pairs

[oak herald]

oh

thats just high card or die

[karmic wraith]

anything but straights, strushes or hc

[clear hare]

or flushes

[karmic wraith]

but there also is a no straights boss, and no flushes too

[dusty plover]

murderous

[karmic wraith]

it's just high card lobotomy all over again

[raven wedge]

lobotomy? like the corporation??

[karmic wraith]

no, lobotomy as in FIRE IN THE HOLE

[clear hare]

oh yeah there might be a new edition deck better than negative deck

because someone turned echo card into an edition

[brave ibex]

what does echo edition do

what's gonna happen to echo card then lol

[clear hare]

same effect as echo cards, but it can also work on jokers

[clear hare]

idk

i think it's probably better to rework that edition

it's called blurred

[wispy veldt]

oops all 6s op

[clear hare]

i think a better idea would be to let it retrigger cards to the left and right

[oak herald]

with 3 you always crit and miss

meaning critical deck does... nothing

[clear hare]

this might be the most cursed screenshot I've taken of this game

[remote locust]

Precision manipulation ftw

[clear hare]

i feel like i have motion blur on but that doesn't exist

[remote locust]

Aura leak

[raven wedge]

nsfw playing cards

[wary pasture]

you got a point its only on the face cards

[clear hare]

aura alr exists

[remote locust]

Upcoming Aura feature leak

[clear hare]

no you didn't

this is my first run on this deck wtf

😭

[dusty plover]

sob

he is here

[remote locust]

No that’s obelisk

[dusty plover]

watch sob appear like two shops later

[wary pasture]

🇲

[jolly snow]

lol should make primus except it works like obelisk

[brave ibex]

VFD gold stake gg

[jolly snow]

gg

[clear hare]

gg

YOU COULD BE PLAYING ON BLUE DECK RIGHT NOW

[desert thunder]

is very fair deck on azure stake possible

[remote locust]

im sure it's possible

also hi cheese

[desert thunder]

hello

[clear hare]

consume-able econ gaming

critical deck rly doesn't change much it just adds RNG

unless you grab two sixes

beating verdant without selling for style points

gg

[brave ibex]

mondrian gaming

[clear hare]

mondrian is at 4.75, jolly would be feeling jolly rn

[brave ibex]

yes

[clear hare]

anyway we're rly close to starting to make code cards now

[desert thunder]

the tax is impossible with 2 hands or less

[brave ibex]

ye

might blacklist it on vfd

[clear hare]

just have a few vouchers and jokers, and a boss
might delay reditus because I think I'd have to patch every money making joker and I don't want to do that right now

i figured out how to do complex blacklisting so I'll probably blacklist it if you have <= 2 hands

[brave ibex]

which jokers are bolded

I don't remember

maybe they all already got added

[clear hare]

i didn't add any yet

reditus (hard, probably gonna push)
chameleon (no art yet)
planetary travel

[brave ibex]

oh yeah

[remote locust]

what's reditus?

[clear hare]

then conspiracy/superstition vouchers
the ruins boss and associated curses

[clear hare]

each source of money gives $1 after each payout

[brave ibex]

planetary travel might need a trigger limit

[clear hare]

well it wouldn't be recursive?

[brave ibex]

opps causes infinites though

[clear hare]

yeah

[brave ibex]

bp and retriggers can cause infinites too

[clear hare]

but just cap it so it can't retrigger a planet more than once

so it can't retrigger retriggered planets

with BP it could still do 3x, 4x, etc.

but not recursive

[brave ibex]

i also thought you planned to make it just give the planet

so yeah bp and retriggers would def cause infinites there lol

[desert thunder]

guys im about to beat VFD on transcendant stake

[brave ibex]

joke'd

[clear hare]

seems legit

[remote locust]

Will a stake that removes Big Blinds come at some point

[desert thunder]

im pretty sure thatll make VFD impossible

if it is already not

[brave ibex]

that makes most decks unwinable

[remote locust]

Remove the boss blind too

[brave ibex]

natural soul lmao

[raven wedge]

start on ante 8, no small blinds nor big blinds

[subtle nova]

someone, get to adding motion blur to the game

[brave ibex]

man got the tax, gotta waste my time rerolling more now 😭

[clear hare]

😭

i literally just made a commit that prevents the tax from appearing when it's impossible to beat

[brave ibex]

got virtue, we good

[remote locust]

i think a better idea is to give the player hands if they are below 3

[clear hare]

agreed

but that would be boring

[raven wedge]

Crimson Dusk gives hands only if you'd win the blind

[cold sandal]

Here's how to beat any deck on any stake {Requires a bit of luck}
-Hold R until you see a Gambler's Tag or Ethereal Tag
-Pray for Gateway
-Pray for Crustulum
-Pray for an easy Ante 1 Boss Blind
-Reroll a few times
-Pray you never Vermillion Virus or Crimson Heart {Blossom Stake+ for Antes lower than 8/10}
-Profit

[jaunty scarab]

LET'S GO GAMBLING!

[cold sandal]

Also anything above Foil Stake makes this strategy take twice as long

{Your Crustulum is halved}

[echo jacinth]

ü

W: sell all jolly jokers

[karmic wraith]

hold the fuck on
steaks above gold?!

[remote locust]

Steak

[karmic wraith]

yeah i call them steaks

[pure radish]

mods

[scenic pumice]

medium rare stake when

[vestal seal]

what made me think actually trying to beat vfd ascendant stake was a good idea

oh well

[green cove]

I had considered most of the suggestion and didn't find any of them interesting enough, and it being an echo card is simply me forgetting echo card existing at the time, though, I think retrigger edition is still a good idea, e.g. Holographic is just a better Mult card. And the fact that it affects jokers has a pretty cool implication

I don't really think this makes much sense because editions usually only affect the card they're applied to

[green cove]

The "initial" idea behind blurred retriggers is that whenever it retriggers you didn't "notice" if it triggered, that's why the message says Again?, but I had to remove that for playing cards, because I didn't want to add like 4 lovely patches just for that

[rough cliff]

Legit got jumpscared when I picked up noob

that was terrifying

at least he's money positive?

[echo jacinth]

Molly moker

[cobalt crow]

Here's a fun bug: If you view the Editions page in the collection while playing on Oversaturated Deck, all editions you see will have their values doubled until you close the game.
I trust that all who read this will use this knowledge responsibly.

[true harness]

damn

[echo jacinth]

this is cryptid. the only responsibility you need is petting the game when it crashes

[cobalt crow]

Typical modded experience:

[rough cliff]

Why does the ante 1 boss sometimes jump up to like 1k? lemme skip damnit

[echo jacinth]

the clock?

[rough cliff]

No, other bosses too

Pillar will sometimes just be 1k

[echo jacinth]

like exactly 1k or just around 1k

[rough cliff]

around 1k

mostly over

[echo jacinth]

is it always the same number

[rough cliff]

Haven't kept track

[echo jacinth]

my suspecting the clock has something to do with this. like when you start a new run and the previous run was clock on boss blind

[rough cliff]

Maybe?

Equilibrium deck go cray

I don't even know what the errors do! I'm just waiting to see because I have four of them

OH GOD I FOUND OUT WHAT THEY DO

AAAAAAAAAAAA

I CAN'T SORT THIS

[green cove]

average error moment

[rough cliff]

waluigi is about to pop

hol on I gotta record this

my game's frames are CHUGGING.

YEAH

I THOUGHT AS MUCH

note to self, never combine error and speculo

[neon cargo]

i hope this is the right place and im sorry to be a bother but i cant seem to gtet the cryptid mod to load in balatro any suggestions.

[rough cliff]

Do you have other mods that load properly?

[neon cargo]

talisman is loading and steamodded are both working

let me try a different mod to see if i just dont have shit setup properly

[green cove]

do you have gold seal on the ace in main menu?

[echo jacinth]

fun fact: clearance sale does not reduce the prices properly. this is very noticed when you get one that says 230% off

[rough cliff]

working as intended

d o u b l e j i m b a l l

[echo jacinth]

double jimball music

[rough cliff]

unfortunately no

TRIPLE JIMBALL

[lime inlet]

i once got a 500% off

imagine a rock paper scissors jonkler

that you can interact

[rough cliff]

god I love crustulum

[echo jacinth]

rock: scissors jokers near this joker become rock jokers. +10000 chips
paper: rock jokers near this joker become paper jokers. +300 mult
scissors: paper jokers near this joker become scissors jokers. x20 mult

[lime inlet]

i just remembered the one thing that everyoine wanted in suggestions a couple months ago
the ability to freeze cards in shop
that'd be a really cool (pun intended) deck to have

[rough cliff]

god damnit not again

[hollow berry]

Weak.

[rough cliff]

curse you, speculo

[hollow berry]

Jesus just don't put speculo on the left

[rough cliff]

goddamnit now all the invis jokers are getting copied

100% this crashes the game again but lets see

yep

equilibrium deck has to be my favorite deck

its gonna be hard to top it

[lime inlet]

lmao best idea i ever made

[hollow berry]

antimatter deck

[rough cliff]

oh dear

that does look silly

Ante -7

ah

[lime inlet]

sad

nvm fixe

uhhh is oversat deck supposed have EVERYTHING oversaturated

did this king get double oversaturated?

[rough cliff]

my copy of balatro looks weird

[weak burrow]

Seems normal to me

[rough cliff]

What does this notation mean.

[weak burrow]

It means BEEG

[lime inlet]

wth even is this 😭

[weak burrow]

Isn't normal echo 1 in 2 for 2 re triggers?

[green cove]

oversaturated

[weak burrow]

Ah

[lime inlet]

what the

[rough cliff]

joy

[sullen willow]

i wanted to try cryptid mod but idk if its installed yet do i just put this and the talisman folders into the mod folder?

[lime inlet]

scuffed doesn't even begin to describe this

i am gonna ignore how i failed a 1 in 0.2 chance

[true harness]

it's 10^(2.215*10^16)

[lime inlet]

lmao i had 8 jolly jonklers

[true harness]

McJolly

[lime inlet]

AIN'T NO FUCKING WAY

CLUTCHED WITH MOSAIC DECK

nice

[desert thunder]

o7 my computer

[green cove]

you installed a wrong version

of steamodded

ah you already got help

[sullen willow]

thanks, i already fixed it with others help

yea

but ty not many take time to help

[livid temple]

i cant believe how batshit the roffle stream was still

-900 ante

[lime inlet]

only -900?

[oak wigeon]

8.88e-16 discards

[snow rivet]

e-16? Isn't that less than a femtodiscard?

[clear hare]

Still usable

[fervent grotto]

should be called a fraction of a joker XD

so how does 0.45 round up to give me select

lmao also is there any way to stop jimball from playing the tune I wanna listen to the game's beautiful sound design

[umbral dagger]

I think packs always let you at least select something even if it low rolls and hits 0.1

Also you can turn off jimball music in the settings iirc

[fervent grotto]

nope

or idk

arcana packs are broken

I got select 1, 3 to diamonds, tried using it as normal, nothing happened

[green cove]

settings - spectral pack - cryptid

[fervent grotto]

Ah yeah, thanks, found it after chrisbo mentioned it

[green cove]

in packs >0 is rounded to 1, but on consumables it's rounded to 0

[umbral dagger]

yeah that is true

if you lowball on an actual tarot or spectral card then it won't let you select anything to use that card on

but packs will never let you select nothing

[fervent grotto]

so basically I got just the star in my arcana pack

it said I could use "3"

and didn't let me choose any

I mean 0.77 would still round to 1, no?

can't use

hanged man is up to 19

... which is actually 0.25, I guess? If i look at it in the collection

[umbral dagger]

Yeah now that I'm going in and trying yeah its kinda the same on my end

it lets me use tarots that don't affect my hand though when I have an arcana pack that only lets me pick 0.x

[brave ibex]

Selected card amount Rounds down

[fervent grotto]

well that's sad

[brave ibex]

Also the cards in collection are different than the ones ingame lol

[fervent grotto]

arcana packs in particular are just broken anyway

and taro cards I guess

sometimes they don't do what they read to do

hermit said up to 4$ once and gave 59$

[umbral dagger]

It seems like when you hit 0.x on arcana pack selection, it doesn't let you use tarot cards that directly modify your hand, but tarots that don't deal with your hand are fine actually nvm I don't think it works that way lol

so like temperance or emperor or whatever can still be picked

[brave ibex]

Yeah that’s intentional

[fervent grotto]

also to anyone that tried the astral deck

have your eyes recovered lmao

[green cove]

I think it's a bug with collection, same as with oversaturated deck and viewing editions in collection

@ math congrats on creating the original WW
localthunk will be proud

[jolly snow]

the ERROR text in the infoqueue for the M jokers is fixed for me now just pulled on both cryptid and steammodded. m1 mac

[green cove]

I assume viewing anything with misprint deck might change prototype values until game restart

[brave ibex]

Ig that was fixed for mac now

Hype

[strange oxide]

this should allow just modifying card values instead of prototypes

[green cove]

oh so that card patch did break it

[green cove]

.

[raven wedge]

collection doesn't pull from prototype, they run set_ability which means they get affected by misprint

[cold sandal]

Pretty good seed {There was a Natural Gateway ante 3}
Redeemed Deck Yellow Stake {Stake 11}

[bleak parcel]

welp

[raven wedge]

i also can't see what aure sent because cannot be displayed on this version of the app

[strange oxide]

this

[raven wedge]

ooh

[strange oxide]

still, it's better for prototypes to not get changed

[bleak parcel]

multiple primus are not scaling equally ive noticed

does Chad make them scale faster

bc if so that is weird

[fervent grotto]

this is oversaturated with fun

[fervent grotto]

dunno about chad, but canvas does

[fervent grotto]

wait what's the redeemed deck

[green cove]

I just thought of an idea to make blurred edition a bit different from echo
retrigger card
1 in 2 chance to retrigger 1 additional time

which is similar to how editions compare with vanilla enhancements, like glass is x2 and poly is x1.5

[raven wedge]

1 in 2 chance to retrigger 1.5 additional times

[cold sandal]

When a Voucher is Redeemed all Tiers of that Voucher are Redeemed

[fervent grotto]

where's it from though

[green cove]

misprint deck all over again

[cold sandal]

Cryptid

Source code

[fervent grotto]

so it's not in the releases

[junior river]

nope

[fervent grotto]

as well as blurred jokers

why aren't they, anyway?

[green cove]

still in development, stuff gets released in batches,not 1 by 1

[fervent grotto]

so I guess it's pretty new then

redeemed deck and blurred editions, I mean

[green cove]

yes

[fervent grotto]

since they weren't in the release from 2 days back
or I guess they were just unreleased

[green cove]

they were just added

[soft night]

[bleak parcel]

I did it gamers

[clear hare]

I can remove the chance-based part too

Like how glass is chance-based but not poly

[green cove]

yea true

[soft night]

retrigger time

[green cove]

well I made a PR with that change so

[clear hare]

Yeah I have to experiment with that

[green cove]

feel free to change it to no chance

[clear hare]

This way I don’t have to do any weirdness

[clear hare]

That’s the plan when I get back home

[soft night]

also, ://SPAGHETTI change for yalls consideration:

the created food joker is Glitched rather than Negative

[green cove]

I kinda like it being 1 in 2 chance for extra tho, fits the blur thing I was going for

[soft night]

its more thematic and funnier

[soft night]

this

[clear hare]

alr

One idea I had that could involve randomness too is to retrigger either the card to the left or the card to the right

Or 1 in 2 for both

[green cove]

the more I think the less I like the idea of editions not working on the card theyre applied to

it just feels wrong, to do joker type thing on something card specific

[clear hare]

Yeah I get that

[weak burrow]

@clear hare we need a misprint and oversaturated combo deck

So we could have a x100 effect

[clear hare]

I should add deck sleeve support for this mod

[green cove]

btw is it planned to add jokers empowering modded editions (like the one that makes poly x2),or are modded editions too niche / rare to have a joker

[clear hare]

Probably a good thing to add

Unless we want to stick to foil/holo/poly

[green cove]

tbh I'm not the biggest fan unless we have already added ways to make modded editions less rare

[clear hare]

Maybe a spectral like aura but for Cryptid editions?

[green cove]

ye smth along the lines

and for jokers as well

[soft night]

we have ://MALWARE coming which can easily glitch a shitton of cards

so we need something for oversat and astral

and blurred

[green cove]

remove all editions from visible cards
1 in 10 chance to apply modded editon to a random card for every removed edition

[soft night]

i say 1 in 4 to be more fair

[green cove]

might be a bit too complicated, because the idea is to remove editions from jokers and playing cards

same with applying

[soft night]

maybe a spectral that replaces an edition

has to have an edition first before it's capable of being swapped

[green cove]

Maybe
I kinda want to have an option of it applying to a joker as well

or it would need to be a separate consumable

[soft night]

i never said it would be exclusive to playing cards

lul

[soft night]

Opportunity
Replace Foil, Holographic, or Polychrome on a selected playing card or Joker with Glitched, Blurred, Oversaturated, or Astral.

[jagged garden]

Weird, had 2 empowered tags and they activated at the same time

Huh

[remote locust]

gonna try and add the non-implemented higher stakes

[clear hare]

Guess switching to immediate context for that tag wasn’t a good idea by me…

[remote locust]

math, should banana playing cards be able to be destroyed while in deck/discard?

[echo jacinth]

joker cards?

[remote locust]

no

banana playing cards

[echo jacinth]

joker playing cards?

[remote locust]

NO the banana sticker on a playing card

[echo jacinth]

why no joker playing cards

[remote locust]

what?

[echo jacinth]

why can consumable but not joker

on playing cards

[remote locust]

i am talking about the banana sticker

it cna go on anything

*can

because of an earlier stake

[clear hare]

I think they make sense when played or held in hand

But not in deck

[remote locust]

does rental count when played?

[clear hare]

No

The way I have them set up are:
perishable - in deck/discard/hand
rental - in hand

[bleak parcel]

does universum stack

LMAO

[brave ibex]

yeah

redeemed deck is pretty wild

[bleak parcel]

decided to update the mod and got an error should I copy paste it here

[green cove]

maybe

[bleak parcel]

`O0ops! The game crashed:
main.lua:7585: attempt to concatenate a boolean value

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1f-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0-ALPHA-0712a-STEAMODDED
Love2D Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.5.0-beta5

Stack Traceback

(3) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 7585
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x3369a320 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x3369a370 (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(6) global C function 'xpcall'
(7) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])`

is there way to make this take up less screen space lol

[green cove]

delete config file from talisman

I fixed this but it's only on github,there isn't a release for it

[bleak parcel]

weird

[green cove]

?

It's because setting changed

from boolean to string

Because it was just a toggle for big num

now there's omeganum option

[bleak parcel]

and when i try to play any of the new decks they all instantly crash lol

[green cove]

is there no crash log?

[bleak parcel]

no except for mosaic

for some reason

[green cove]

go to mods folder

lovely/logs

should be able to grab whatever happened before the crash

[bleak parcel]

i dont know what part I should show

for everything besides mosaic it shows these 3 errors

INFO - [G] ERROR LOADING GAME: Card area 'shop_booster' not instantiated before load
INFO - [G] ERROR LOADING GAME: Card area 'shop_vouchers' not instantiated before load
INFO - [G] ERROR LOADING GAME: Card area 'shop_jokers' not instantiated before load

mosaic gets like an entirely different log for some reason

[green cove]

those are normal logs

that thunk left for whatever reason

what other mods do u have and did you also update steamodded

[bleak parcel]

only talisman and cryptid and I used the steamodded that came with the cryptid 0.4.2 folder

[green cove]

hm then idk

what's the crash on mosaic

log

I can't rly check but maybe math will see

[bleak parcel]

i think for mosaic it was like stack overflow

[green cove]

full error log would be a bit more helpful

[bleak parcel]

and i think this is the one for everything else

[clear hare]

se = Card.set_edition
function Card:set_edition(x,y,z)
    local was_oversat = self.edition and (self.edition.cry_oversat or self.edition.cry_glitched)
    se(self,x,y,z)
    if was_oversat then
        cry_misprintize(self,nil,true)
    end
    if self.edition and self.edition.cry_oversat then
        cry_misprintize(self, {min=2*(G.GAME.modifiers.cry_misprint_min or 1),max=2*(G.GAME.modifiers.cry_misprint_max or 1)})
    end
    if self.edition and self.edition.cry_glitched then
        cry_misprintize(self, {min=0.1*(G.GAME.modifiers.cry_misprint_min or 1),max=10*(G.GAME.modifiers.cry_misprint_max or 1)})
    end
end

This is applying recursively for some reason

Which means the file is loaded twice somehow

[green cove]

you should probably delete all cryptid files and update again

[bleak parcel]

ah that would make sense

must be bc I was replacing the files

[strange oxide]

reloading mods is broken (always has been) and reapplies hooks

trying to find a better solution that integrates with lovely

[remote locust]

banana

[clear hare]

[dusty plover]

[remote locust]

imagine a banana oops all 6s

this is funny

[strange oxide]

that's bananas

[remote locust]

last one has all 5 stickers

[clear hare]

Banana is red?

[remote locust]

oops

forgot to give bananan a color

[green cove]

oh right completely forgot

[snow rivet]

How does Eternal Banana work?

[clear hare]

Banana overrides, or make them incompatible

[dusty plover]

yeah i’d say have the sticker that comes up on later stakes be the one to override

[bleak parcel]

redeo is fair and balanced lol

i like wormhole deck it's fun

I have 5 vouchers and I havent been past ante 1

[remote locust]

well all stickers are compatible when twilight stake is active anyway.

should banana just do nothing if the card is also eternal?

[strange oxide]

it's funnier if it just destroys itself anyways (like eternal self-destructing jokers)

also maybe change the text color on that badge? it's really low contrast

[clear hare]

yeah black text should work

[clear hare]

I’d say make it still work but make them incompatible

[remote locust]

but a stake exists that makes all stickers compatible

[bleak parcel]

still ante -4...

[echo jacinth]

why is it importing ranks when this mod is loading. what ranks is it loading

[bleak parcel]

oh god the joke

maybe this is a good thing

id be here forever lmao

WAIT IT SENDS YOU TO ANTE 0

LMAO

[strange oxide]

lmao

[remote locust]

Verdant Stake scaling

[echo jacinth]

Impossible Stake: antes scale tetrationally now
ante 1: 1
ante 2: 4
ante 3: 7 trillion
ante 4: e3e153

[bleak parcel]

ante -26

[remote locust]

Ember Stake

[strange oxide]

sell? more like give away for free

[bleak parcel]

so if you get redeo the game just goes forever

[remote locust]

why would that happen?

all this does is make everything sell for 0

[bleak parcel]

no i mean

just in general

[remote locust]

i mean if you choose to and have the budget

[echo jacinth]

no, because it takes quadratically more spending and you don't get quadratically more money

[remote locust]

you can get money exponentially though

[brave ibex]

Most scaling money sources give enough to cause infinites

[oak herald]

(see end of the file for response)

[clear hare]

Could you send a screenshot of that line in lovely/dump/game.lua

[unkempt pasture]

What if instead of cryptid it was freakryptid and the jokers were freaky

I'll see myself out

[scenic pumice]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1187936299655647313

[unkempt pasture]

Sorry I was. Joking I didn't actually want to suggest anything

Oh that's what that's for I just saw the name and thought it was for actual suggestions, just clicked it

[nocturne forge]

Is Error like TM Trainer?

[clear hare]

No, but that would be funny to add along with the current effect

Make all cards spawn Glitched

Ppl wanted more ways to access Cryptid editions so that also helps

[soft night]

dunno if yall saw but idea for that

Opportunity
Replace Foil, Holographic, or Polychrome on a selected playing card or Joker with Glitched, Blurred, Oversaturated, or Astral.

[nocturne forge]

What if the error joker told you it made all cards glitched and then there was a TMTrainer effect joker that looks like a placeholder texture (like a poorly drawn base joker) and it got error's current description

also I feel like oversaturated cards should just have a contrast increase instead of what they currently have now that hurts my eyes

also the blind where getting double its score sets your ante to the next multiple of 8 is just not fun

I think it should be modified to where if you get at least A/2 times the blind requirement it reduces your ante by 1, like hieroglyph

ofc that means that it'd be limited to ante 3 and above to make sense

[soft night]

i think it needs to debut in a higher ante tbh

the effect is fine, it just shows up too early

[nocturne forge]

I think the problem is that it's either too early or too late for its effect to be enjoyable

[soft night]

i love the effect cuz it's like "oh you can kill me twice-over, bitch? here you go then"

i think ante 4 is a good point where it can be fun

4 thru 6 is its ideal range

[nocturne forge]

I also feel like the funny lets go gambling tag should just give you a random tag instead

[soft night]

yea

[nocturne forge]

because I already hate WoF enough

[soft night]

empowered tag feels more like an absolute jackpot than anything

so it should be one

[clear hare]

nah I’m keeping gambling tag as it is for the memes

it really shouldn’t even be ante 1 but it’s funny

[umbral dagger]

we love ante 1 let's go gambling memes

[clear hare]

honestly there doesn’t need to be a description as well, because once you get it the effect is pretty clear

but it solves the problem of the first effect not being obvious to find

[nocturne forge]

what about 1 in 4 chance for empowered tag, otherwise grant another random tag

[clear hare]

That’s fair, but maybe still a 1 in 4 to NOPE! Because it’s funny

[nocturne forge]

that'd be fair

annoying, but fair

[umbral dagger]

That sounds alright, 1 in 4 for empowered, 2 in 4 for a random tag, 1 in 4 for "aw dangit!"

[clear hare]

but ngl the empowered tag is so OP the luck kinda already balances itself

But I can roll with this

[nocturne forge]

I haven't won the gamble once, so I wouldn't know lol

although I can guess based on the fact it has Soul

[umbral dagger]

Idk to me there's enough layers of RNG in it that it's not really super game breaking to luck into it on ante 1

[clear hare]

ppl are gonna hold R so it is

[umbral dagger]

you need to hit the 1 in 4 then you need to hit the chance that you get an exotic or legendary that helps you in the short term

[clear hare]

but it’s also funny enough not to balance

[umbral dagger]

but yeah I guess its free money anyways even if its 'bad'

[clear hare]

free $25 at least

[nocturne forge]

Also I think the most fun way for trance deck to work would be if all blue seal cards now grant negative planets

specifically for that deck obv

[raven sand]

what mod is this from btw?

looks pretty good

[remote locust]

Bonus Blinds

also ty (it's my mod)

[raven sand]

bonus blinds adds new jokers?

huh

cool

[remote locust]

those aren't jokers

(notice the lack of the word joker)

[raven sand]

well sometimes they don't have joker in da name

[remote locust]

i mean on the sprite

every joker has the word joker somewhere on the sprite

[raven sand]

same goes for that but I get it lol

[remote locust]

anyway they are bonus blinds which allow you to play an extra blind in an ante

[raven sand]

cool

[remote locust]

Dawn Stake

[bleak parcel]

Is gamble tag influenced by dice

[soft night]

ye

[frozen geyser]

finially a good joker

another one.

also my deck is very satisfying

19 additional times or should i say 190 times?

[clear hare]

It’s additive, so 29 times

[frozen geyser]

oh

darn that would have been funny

[soft night]

add an exotic that makes effects multiplicative

[frozen geyser]

that would be utter chaos

[echo jacinth]

19 retriggers + 10 retriggers = 209 retriggers

no wait it's 219

[frozen geyser]

well I know that was a typo but my cards all have red seals so

[echo jacinth]

so 439 retriggesr

[frozen geyser]

also

[remote locust]

imagine a joker that triggers a card outside of it's scoring order

[clear hare]

:D

[frozen geyser]

its even higher because echo card

[clear hare]

Triple trigger

[remote locust]

i'm probably not coding Azure Stake

[frozen geyser]

wouldnt it trigger 6 times?

[clear hare]

It’s actually much easier than it sounds

Because you can just run misprintize

[remote locust]

im not messing with that

[clear hare]

alr I can do it

[frozen geyser]

all the retriggers

[clear hare]

I also want to get animated stake colors, but again I can do that

Might also be good to put for other colors in descriptions and stuff

Like maybe Exotic?

[remote locust]

rn I'm just trying to fix an issue with the banana sticker not rendering on editions

[frozen geyser]

that's the lowest i've seen the number of cards neccessary be, sometimes ive seen it over 200

[clear hare]

Are you using SMODS.Sticker

[remote locust]

no, i don't trust it

it was being weird

[clear hare]

weird how

[frozen geyser]

a better one

wait

nvm

[clear hare]

Wait until you get Chad as well

[remote locust]

i probably just didn't know all the required arguments, but i wasn't getting. proper badge and description

[frozen geyser]

well thats not over 200 but...

[remote locust]

Blossom Stake

[clear hare]

Did you look at Steamodded source? Usually pretty helpful for me when using new API

[clear hare]

It should start in ante 2

[remote locust]

yeah ik

[clear hare]

But this is funnier

Keep it

[remote locust]

ok

ill also change description

to after ante 0

[clear hare]

Just say always

[remote locust]

k

[clear hare]

Imagine obsidian orb ante 1

[frozen geyser]

um what?

[remote locust]

lol

[frozen geyser]

how?

[clear hare]

0 hand size

[frozen geyser]

no, definitally not

[remote locust]

fixed the bug

may as well do ascendent stake

[frozen geyser]

I sold those cards that give + hand size permanently when sold and it was definitely higher than the amount of etoplasms ive used

[remote locust]

• hand size with negative cards kills you

[frozen geyser]

the irony

oh well

[remote locust]

oops

[clear hare]

It might be coded already (although I don’t think it’s coded in main)

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[teal plover]

i think the bug happens because hand size is changed in a different way compared to the other card areas, whereas the negative playing cards are trying to change it using the other way of doing it

typically hand size is changed using the change_size function, whereas all other card areas have a variable directly changed instead
negative playing cards might be trying to change it the direct way which is what causes strange behaviour

[remote locust]

isn't ascendent -1 joker slot?

[cold sandal]

It was changed to -1 Slot in Shop and the -1 Joker Slot stake was moved further back (Stake number 40)

[remote locust]

when?

[cold sandal]

I don't remember when but I know it happened, and it's in the sheet

It's been there for at least a month i think

[subtle nova]

oh yeah math did you see the new api I added to steamodded?

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/pull/186

figured you might want to use it for cryptid

cause it is such a big mod

[mental tiger]

excuse me
i've face a problem
the game crashes right after i chose the deck

[clear hare]

Talisman should be in Mods/Talisman

[mental tiger]

it is in it

[mental tiger]

same problem

[remote locust]

every stake up to ascendant added except Azure Stake

[clear hare]

Please make a PR

[remote locust]

k

[mental tiger]

Do you have clues about my problem? cuz i don't

[remote locust]

sorry can't make a pr rn, I'll try to tommorow tho

[subtle nova]

what does the inside of tailisman folder look like?

[subtle nova]

hmm that seems incomplete

try redownloading

[mental tiger]

talisman.zip or source code

[subtle nova]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[clear hare]

Dw its fine

[soft night]

had an absolutely horrendous boss idea

Triple Threat (Final Boss Blind)
1.75x Base per phase. Must defeat three phases. Refresh Hands and deck after every phase.

Phase 1: Half of your deck is debuffed at random; the other half is drawn face down.
Phase 2: No ranks or suits repeated in consecutive hands.
Phase 3: Jokers trigger in a random order.

[remote locust]

Why is phase 1 by far the hardest

[soft night]

could swap to phase 3

and maybe compound phases lol

Triple Threat (Final Boss Blind)
1.75x Base per phase. Must defeat three phases. Refresh Hands and deck after every phase.

Phase 1: Jokers trigger in a random order.
Phase 2: No ranks or suits repeated in consecutive hands.
Phase 3: Half of your deck is debuffed at random; the other half is drawn face down.

there, swapped

[remote locust]

I’d say that’s pretty difficult

[subtle nova]

Phase 3 sounds roughj

[soft night]

too much?

[clear hare]

No

Keep it rough

[subtle nova]

Oh I just realized this is the cryptid thrread

seems good

[clear hare]

lol

[remote locust]

Should probs make another Cruel Blinds finisher

[soft night]

also, challenge idea:

Obsidius
End at Ante 17 and fight Obsidian Orb as its only blind. Obsidian Orb cannot be fought elsewhere. Final Boss Blinds appear every 4 Antes and Ante scaling is magnified to Purple Stake scaling.

(name is a portmanteau of obsidian, insidious, and sidus (latin for star))

do we like

[remote locust]

i like blinds which are cruel

thios makes obsidian orb quite horrible, good job

[soft night]

:)

[vestal seal]

forgot i had balatro open

[soft night]

L

[subtle nova]

Choose your next Blind

[remote locust]

ascendant

[vestal seal]

my best attempt got to ante 5

[remote locust]

is that the version i just posted?

[vestal seal]

no

[remote locust]

then why be on ascendant if it does nothing?

[vestal seal]

flex

(if i win that is)

[white drum]

should crashers with potential fixes be reported here or at github?

[vestal seal]

here definitely

[white drum]

ok Items/Blinds.lua, line 779, i believe should set it to hand_chips rather than chips.

currently crashing vs obsidian orb v/ very fair deck

[soft night]

so math if you like this idea enough to consider it i'll go ahead and do art for it and force jevonn to get it animated

[clear hare]

fixed

[clear hare]

i like it

[soft night]

excellent

time for pain

[clear hare]

azure stake done (coding-wise)

[remote locust]

nice

[clear hare]

also this is the first joker I ever got in a shop past when banana was added.. nice

[remote locust]

what else would need to be done?

[clear hare]

don't want to confuse with beating it

[vestal seal]

banana hat

[clear hare]

oh also I have to do the gradients for the stakes

[vestal seal]

should also add to sticker sheet

[clear hare]

that too

[vestal seal]

if you havent already

[remote locust]

banana deck

[clear hare]

btw how do I make the banana text black

actually I can probably just use a darker yellow

[teal plover]

what about e8c500?

[clear hare]

lemme try it

yeah this works

[remote locust]

imagine banana gros michel

[soft night]

what do we think of this

[vestal seal]

what blindsd it

[soft night]

Triple Threat

[vestal seal]

anyway looks cool

[soft night]

one i just came up with

[clear hare]

^

[soft night]

@brave ibex hey can you make this animated thanks

[brave ibex]

Uh yeah probably

[soft night]

cool (sorry)

(if i knew how to do it myself i would)

(like frame/timing wise)

[lime inlet]

im gonna reattempt winning max stake after skipping to ante 8 via the joke

[junior river]

what if phases 1 and 2 replaced the small and big blinds

[clear hare]

sticker sheet just got harder (or did it?)

[remote locust]

actually forgot to test banana + eternal, although banana doesn't have an eternal check in terms of functionality

[soft night]

nah bc obsidian orb wouldnt be able to copy them

obsidian orb copying triple threat is gonna be a goddamn nightmare lol

[junior river]

what if they were completely new additional blinds

[soft night]

nah

cuz like

most of the blinds i suggested for this mod (TT is no exception) are inspired by my own characters and this one is inspired by an inseparable trio

[remote locust]

what happens if you seperate them

[junior river]

what happens if you have mr bones

do you skip through all the phases

[soft night]

the fabric of reality ceases to be.

and theyll be sad :(

[soft night]

prolly up to math

[brave ibex]

alr there it is

[soft night]

epic thx

good luck coding that behemoth lol

[remote locust]

:( (darn cryptid patches)

[vestal seal]

one of these thing is significantly more important than the other

[remote locust]

ywah, i don't want them to be sad

[soft night]

yeah :(

theyve been together as a besties trio for like 10 years in-canon

-# but who wants to hear about dumb cat characters in a balatro modding chat lol

[clear hare]

my idea is

you just skip one

i know someone else is adding multi-refresh bosses so I'll probably just yoink their logic for that

(with credit)

[remote locust]

this was surpisingly close ||to requiring 2 hands||

imagine getting this ante 1 big blind on Blossom Stake

[soft night]

FEAR

[remote locust]

what? the blind?

[soft night]

yes

that sounds ass-rendingly painful

[remote locust]

don't worry it's worse that it looks

[soft night]

FEAR^2

[remote locust]

each hand and discard it changes which 3 finishers

[soft night]

FEAR^^2

[clear hare]

this wasn't too bad actually

[soft night]

ooh?

[clear hare]

made the exotic color pulse between gray and blue and it looks nice

too lazy to fire up OBS so you'll have to see for yourself later

but I'm also doing this for the stake colors

[soft night]

swaggy

can you do this with TT's border color actually

[clear hare]

ye

although rn it only swaps between 2 colors but that can be an ez fix

also we need stickers for stakes 25-32

[remote locust]

are those the ones after ascendent?

[clear hare]

no

the ones after platinum

[remote locust]

oh i already put those in there

[soft night]

stickers meaning joker completion stickers

[brave ibex]

i still don't think the stakes after ascendant are a good idea tbh

[livid temple]

yeah, feels very ecsessive and bloated to me.

[soft night]

mhm

tho i love jimbo stake lol

can we just have 33 stakes and put jimbo stake there

[remote locust]

no

infinite stakes,

[soft night]

steak stake

[remote locust]

stake(the object) stake

[soft night]

The Actual Final Stake, Trust Me Guys (Stake 452761890)

[remote locust]

no hands allowed

[soft night]

Steak

S

[echo jacinth]

so what are those ranks that it's importing in the loading screen

[clear hare]

got all the colors loading

[clear hare]

that's steamodded not cryptid

just vanilla ranks it's re-registering

[echo jacinth]

i was excited for whichever thing was going to add those ranks :(

[desert thunder]

jimbo stake stake stake stake stake: start with 0 joker slots with a negative jimbo

[soft night]

well there is a 0 rank coming

[cold sandal]

Embrace the stake

Make it so you can't see what stakes you've completed cause there's too many of them

[clear hare]

tastier steaks

[soft night]

also i propose a change:

rename Ascendant Stake to Zenith Stake

[clear hare]

i think ascendant is too infamous at this point

[desert thunder]

zenith sounds cooler

[cold sandal]

Ascendant sounds better

[soft night]

Apotheosis Stake lmao

[raven sand]

Zenith does have an actual and well used meaning, but Ascendant sounds cooler imo.

[cold sandal]

Maybe Hyper Stake (Stake 35) could be renamed to Zenith stake if it ends up being added

[desert thunder]

getting my 7 alt accounts

[clear hare]

if zenith wins I'll change it tmrw

[soft night]

Ultimate Stake

[desert thunder]

the stake

[vestal seal]

upgrades all your jokers this blind, exhaust

[wary pasture]

how does banana work with eternal?

[soft night]

it dont

[remote locust]

i never tested it

but i think it still kills the joker

[desert thunder]

VFD in zenith stake hasnt been done yet right?

im guessing not its way too hard

[soft night]

what if Terminus Stake

[cold sandal]

Imo we need to get to the point where the high stakes make Full Power Antimatter Deck difficult

[soft night]

MERCILESS STAKE

[desert thunder]

it will never

antimatter is way too op and scales exponentially if u get like canvas or something

[soft night]

• negates deck effects

there

[cold sandal]

Impossible Stake:
Removes positive Deck Effects

[desert thunder]

the stake of steaks: 0 joker slots

[soft night]

Horrendous Stake
Instantly lose

[desert thunder]

is playing with omeganum the thing that makes it crash when i play big number

[clear hare]

added another effect to ERROR that someone suggested

[cold sandal]

All Jokers in shop while held are glitched?

[soft night]

oh thats fun

[cold sandal]

Thats just a guess based off the screenshot

[clear hare]

everything is glitched

like you're playing glitched deck

[remote locust]

incorrect

the Next Round button is not glitched

[cold sandal]

Error isnt glitched

[vestal seal]

played a hand with a debuffed card in this version

[clear hare]

i should mention everything new added is glitched, in the same way as glitched deck handles it

so shop/pack jokers and playing cards, with much more on DoE/antimatter

it's late here now so I'll probably merge the blind changes and set up everything for a new release tomorrow night sometime

[raven wedge]

just look at lobcorp's crimson dusk

[clear hare]

adding some of the bolded jokers/vouchers too before I release

[desert thunder]

whar happened

i didnt play a hand

[raven sand]

I thought glitched deck only made your deck of cards glitched, not that it even made the jokers glitched too.

[severe jetty]

been trying a 7 and 2 build and was wondering if we are ever gonna get a turn all cards into x joker to support the build

[brave ibex]

on the topic of the blind changes i'm getting these message and I wonder if these should be changed or not

[clear hare]

hmmmm

[severe jetty]

i was thinking like turn all number cards into 2 and all face cards into 7

[brave ibex]

same thing for windmill and hammer too

recalc would probably make sense but i have no idea what i'm doing

[green cove]

rename cryptid-main to cryptid

[jaunty scarab]

Pretty sure Cryptid is also responsible for the in_pool() may not work correctly on a card of _type=Tag warn I get flashed with when starting an ante and opening the shop.

[brave ibex]

hmm

yeah i removed misc (where all the tags are) and it doesn't pop up

[lime inlet]

The Limit
The closer your score reaches the blind req, the more reduced your score is (your total score at the end will always match the blind req)

[clear hare]

it works correctly tho

[desert thunder]

close

[remote locust]

phew

[strange oxide]

what's up with it? I can try to fix if it's an API issue

[remote locust]

I'd rather not report anything, oods are it was user error, and im not going to back to double check

[teal plover]

blur edition sound

like dipping into water, or covering your ears

[green cove]

thats cool

tho not entirely sure if it fits

that sound in my brain is associated with something more than just blur 😹

[neon cargo]

I think I won

For some reason it automatically ended my run as soon as I started that boss

Had 245 joker slots and 20 of them were waluigi and had 6 canvas was kinda insane

does the cat tag do anything?

[desert thunder]

i dont think so

[remote locust]

Meow

[iron breach]

The cat tag is cute

[fervent grotto]

Ah yes, the positive joker

[livid temple]

what if they made an update

that made the cat tag play a meow sfx

when obtained

[fervent grotto]

would've been awesome ngl

that's what I expected it to do

[desert thunder]

when beating blank deck on zenith stake cat tag does something

not clickbait

[lime inlet]

jonkler idea
Uncommon, Rare, and Epic Jokers go down one rarity

[frozen geyser]

?

also happens when i attempt to look at what blind is next

[raven wedge]

my cat is deformed

...tag_cry.png exists though??

[last junco]

todays balatrodle m

[vestal seal]

m

[karmic wraith]

m

[dusty plover]

m

[bleak parcel]

Wormhole deck is fun

Exponentia feels so much worse than Primus tho lol

Ngl I have never used the jolly joker build

It just seems clunky

M stack is kinda broken tho

[oak herald]

the thing with exponentia is that it gets better with retriggers

[bleak parcel]

Yeah

One of the worse ones to start with tho

Especially with only 2 other joker slots

[silver cobalt]

tried to install the newest version of cryptid and talisman to my new computer and this happens

it does it before even the loading screen

[jagged garden]

Did you get your account back?

[dusty plover]

nested folders?

[silver cobalt]

Yes

[subtle nova]

No the scammer needs cryptid support

[jagged garden]

Lmao

[pine crystal]

so like uh, tried to remove cryptid from my mods and got this crash error, uninstalled steammodded and same crash, only shows up when i click play tho?

might be something with picking a nonexistent deck but idk

reinstall also did nothing

[raven wedge]

your save was modified by Talisman i think

ah no

that's the line that shows the Stake

[brave ibex]

Reinstall cryptid and end the run you had

[pine crystal]

mkay

[brave ibex]

Then try again and see if that works

[oak herald]

localthunk hq 🤔

[pine crystal]

of 1 person D:

ah yes, my continued run is on ante -10

ye its working

[silver cobalt]

no

i checked

[brave ibex]

Try deleting config.lua in talisman

That one is incompatible with the new talisman update

[silver cobalt]

it doesnt exist

maybe i should update steamodded

it still isnt working

[subtle nova]

Delete your save.jkr

[unkempt pasture]

your mod froze my obs lmfao

lmaoooooo

just know

1.4k jokers

in one click

[grizzled trellis]

Idk if its been brought up but the way cards sort is off

Specifically when sorted by suit

Have noticed this on every deck

[subtle nova]

Intresting

Wonder if SMODS broke this or cryptid

[grizzled trellis]

I didnt update smod between cryptid updates. Still was like this after updating SMod

[clear hare]

Cryptid, fixed in dev

[unkempt pasture]

actual suggestion here: make the deck of equalibrium start with Magic Trick (lets you get cards and enhanced cards in the shop)

[versed bay]

extremely funny wormhole start

[unkempt pasture]

downright comedic

[fervent grotto]

i got speculo ankh negative last time

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wormhole is hell of a lot absurdity

[remote locust]

[string "Mods/Cryptid/Items/zExotic.lua"]:534: attempt to index a nil value played The Flint with Universum on me and got this error

(animations were on)

[brave ibex]

Flint might need to be wrapped in a tobig

[remote locust]

i doublt that's the issue

[brave ibex]

Huh maybe it isn’t

I think it crashes with all bosses that use modifyhand

Thought tobig would have fixed that but i guess it didn’t

Lemme download newest cryptid release

yeah crashed on newest release

also this is embarrassing lmao

Howd i miss that

[teal plover]

oh fuck me jevonn

i'll fix it

done

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/commit/46d09e2c7258a05c1255427ca1dae082f50d8c12

[brave ibex]

Whoopsies
That what I get for not testing again 💀

[fervent grotto]

that's just an unreasonable amount of joker slots buddy

[oak herald]

only 4.3$ per round though

[fervent grotto]

yup

so it's just a sad gateway

got it from gambler tag

I guess that's what I get on misprint deck

lmao

and that's a ridiculously bad throwback

[clear hare]

Also y’all merged without checking

[fervent grotto]

I mean that's what space joker usually feels like anyway

[umbral dagger]

finally, accurate probability displays

[fervent grotto]

seems good

but it only makes two

i'm deeply disappointed

i'll better go with glitched

it's a good ace

OKAY

[brave ibex]

i did check but had to resolve a conflict and didn't check again 😭

[fervent grotto]

I'd call that to the moon and halfway back

[nocturne forge]

Chaos the clown doesn't work with the glitched variant

Also the Tax is just not fun

[fervent grotto]

yeah

[fervent grotto]

yeah

you somehow summed up my previous run

[nocturne forge]

also what happens if you reach the tax with 2 hands?

is it just an instant loss?

[summer cargo]

yes

[remote locust]

well it's not instant

[nocturne forge]

may as well be

[brave ibex]

game shouldn't spawn tax with 2 hands

was changed on newer versions

[night snow]

Ive had this since ante 1, and its still alive

[clear hare]

working on adding more spectrals

[remote locust]

momentary -1 vouchers here i come

[violet egret]

What if the cat tag opened a buffoon pack with a new cat joker that just said Meow at the end of the round

But what if it turned into some horror after some amount of rounds that has some kind of effect

[remote locust]

personally i feel like that would defeat the purpouse of the tag

[violet egret]

Fair

[clear hare]

something new for mod devs to add for compat

[green cove]

how would that work with the voucher deck