Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]

[weak burrow]

i think

[silver cobalt]

Yeah

[weak burrow]

so 9.8 tril is my record for exponentia

[silver cobalt]

Chess battle advanced

[weak burrow]

[remote locust]

Isn’t 3, exponential

[silver cobalt]

Checker fight evolved

[clear hare]

10^^^10

but yeah ig just don't use the string constructor for testing this

[remote locust]

I confused myself

[clear hare]

because when I switched to arrow() it worked

yeah now this is making more sense

although {69420} crashes the game now :(

yeah hyperoperations are recursive so it gets SLOW

[jagged garden]

Funny run trying the wormhole deck

Tho I didn't see a single negative joker card in the shop

[clear hare]

even steven

[upper veldt]

nice

[clear hare]

negatives are so rare I will prob raise to like X50

[jagged garden]

Epic

[clear hare]

or maybe just only do -2 joker slots instead of -3

yeah this feels like a good buff

[jagged garden]

Modified the values on my end to those, I'll give it another try

[upper veldt]

[remote locust]

0oaK

[jagged garden]

I get a negative Joker almost every 2 rerolls

[pure radish]

good god this looks like a nightmare

[summer cargo]

Did exponentia get nerfed to start at ^1 mult instead of ^1.1??

[wary pasture]

wouldn't that make it useless?

[soft night]

wormhole deck is already broken as is wdym

[summer cargo]

Yes it does nothing

[soft night]

this was my start for my first ever wormhole deck

[jagged garden]

Sandbox mode

[clear hare]

It’s already broken but the extra joker slot makes it more fun, and the heightened negative rate makes it matter more

Should increase consistency especially on higher stakes, I hope

[summer cargo]

[also is there some technical reason that gambling tag doesn't immediately cause empowered tag to go off and open the pack if you get it]

[soft night]

^

[brave ibex]

Yes

[summer cargo]

0/10 it's barely useful as is at ^1.1 earlygame

[brave ibex]

It needed that nerf

[clear hare]

Tag calculation contexts are weird

[summer cargo]

this does not nerf any part of the card that actually gives it its strength??

[clear hare]

But I can fix

[brave ibex]

Yeah but it still needed to be toned down a bit
Plus it’s more consistent with other scaling jokers now

[summer cargo]

this is the equivalent of "toning down" the empire state building by making it an inch shorter

[jaunty scarab]

If having too much scoring causes a crash now, can we add “spawns a joker with enough mult that it crashes the game when scored” to this list?

[clear hare]

Yep

Give it +Infinity Mult? and when you try and play a hand and it triggers it’ll freeze and crash

[jaunty scarab]

Infinitus Joker

[soft night]

inspired by this from a bit ago:

://ELSEIF
Remove negative effects on a selected item.

[clear hare]

^

[soft night]

replacement for ://UPDATE because its effect was boring

[green cove]

Reversing the nerf makes empire state building an inch higher, so does it really matter

I think it's fine that scaling jokers start at 0

Or in case of Xmult and ^mult at 1

[summer cargo]

It really stands out how it's the only exotic that is straight up a dead slot without additional support

[soft night]

give it ^1.05 maybe?

also Math, have you seen Theoretical Joker

[green cove]

Eh if that's the case then sure

Maybe it does make sense

[clear hare]

Start at ^1.5?

[brave ibex]

I think staring at ^1 is fine imo

it's still strong

[clear hare]

Theoretical is interesting but probably too hard to implement

[soft night]

why start at ^1.5?? it was crazy starting at ^1.1

[clear hare]

You’d need to patch a lot of things like with Else If

But in ways that are annoying and would unexpectedly have mod incompat

[soft night]

i see

[livid temple]

that seems like it would have good synergy with stencil

[green cove]

exotic

[livid temple]

considering its not considered a joker

[soft night]

://SEED

://SPAGHETTI

i decided the food joker that spaghetti creates is Negative

[wary pasture]

Preservative: Food jokers no longer deplete

[soft night]

lmao

the synergy with spaghetti

HOOK://

[jagged garden]

://BOREDOM

[soft night]

my god

[grim tendon]

://RETURN: Destroys all held consumables and jokers, sets Ante to 1

[soft night]

no

[remote locust]

Eternal:

[dusty plover]

bypasses eternal

or just removes stickers

[soft night]

://KEYGEN

[soft night]

revert is basically this but on a single-ante basis

[grim tendon]

ah ok i already removed it

[hidden chasm]

Random (bad) idea: a Boss whose Base Score multiplier is actually “Base^2” but it gets reduced by 1 each second

Ok, it’s not a serious idea, it’s just that the thought “a Boss that’s hard for speedrunners” came to mind

And nothing harder than wasting time

[wary pasture]

name: Patience

[soft night]

://STACK

://ALTTAB

://DELETE

[lime inlet]

m

[wary pasture]

m

[stark charm]

m

[jaunty scarab]

m

[soft night]

m

[vague river]

Anyone know what could cause this effect? Scoring animations are off.

[chrome comet]

welp good thing i backed my save files up lol.

i removed cryptid and verified game files and i guess i forgot to use my unlocked account when i played on stream the other night cause it corrupted mty save file and woule crash on load lol

[oak herald]

good on you for being responsible

can't wait for roffle to play cryptid

[soft night]

cryptid nukes save files lol

apparently

b'yeah good on ya

[livid temple]

has he ever mentioned it

id love to see him do it

[oak herald]

i think he said in murphy's stream that he'd play on monday iirc

[livid temple]

ooooh i'd love to watch that one

[oak herald]

murphy streamed it yesterday

did a DoE run

[livid temple]

is the vod up anywhere

[subtle nova]

I thought I made a PR to steamodded that prevented the game crashing from bad save files

Oh wait you removed the mods

Yeah I think tailsman just makes saves the vanilla game doesn't like

[remote locust]

Yes

[green cove]

thats with all mods that add content, isnt it

[green cove]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2196027572

[livid temple]

k

[subtle nova]

Not quite. IIRC Tailsman modifies how the save file is structured so the big numbers can be loaded, but caused the game to be unable to parse the save. This causes the game to crash when the play button is pressed (or is it the title screen) and makes it impossible to start a new game. Most other mods just causs issues when trying to load into them.

[green cove]

deleting save.jkr solves that tho

[subtle nova]

Yeah but you need to know how to get around it

In steamodded I fixed the crshs and just have it behave as if there is no save to load

[green cove]

Yeah, that makes sense

[subtle nova]

Maybe I should let localthunk know because it is an actual crash that can happen in vanilla if your save is corruptrf

[green cove]

I feel like it doesn't make sense for him to fix it

[subtle nova]

I mean it kinda does

[green cove]

like if mods start doing weird things in profile, and profile just crashes on load, would he need to fix that too?

it's not really his problem

[subtle nova]

I actually haven't tested profile

Bit this can happen in unmodded situations if something goes wrong and the file is just corrupt

[green cove]

hm I guess

[subtle nova]

And he does gave checks for issues, it's just one specific issue that can happen that isn't properly checked

[green cove]

since there were issues with game crashes corrupting save files

[subtle nova]

Its a one line fix

Also the save.jkr Is modifed a lot more than some of the other save files so it's more likely to get corrupted

[green cove]

so that's why my run was gone once when I alt+f4'd (in vanilla)

[civic acorn]

God, I hope 1.0 can go to Stable soon, so I can try this out. Seems like the perfect thing to mush up my brain and give me dopamine. :)

[green cove]

probably the game was saving at that point and save file corrupted

[subtle nova]

Yeah like I think if the compression fails, then the game handles it proprly and if it's missing some keys it handles it but if the save just doesn't return anything then the game crshed

[subtle nova]

I mean you can install 1.0 now

https://github.com/steamopollys/steamodded?tab=readme-ov-file#how-to-install-the-alpha

[civic acorn]

Yes, but I'd rather wait till it goes to Stable so that other people update their mods.

[subtle nova]

Okay

[green cove]

got this crash again from holding R for a new run

from lua dump

not sure if I'm supposed to post this in talisman thread

[lime inlet]

heavenly ramen

[remote locust]

Imagine if every food joker had a “cavendish” version

[green cove]

food joker?

[remote locust]

Yes autocorrect

[strange oxide]

same thing

[green cove]

that'll be bananas

[strange oxide]

[green cove]

[wary pasture]

[jaunty scarab]

"Cavendish Invasion" incoming to your local copy of Cryptid

[remote locust]

^4 Mult, 1 in ee308 change to be destroyed at end of round

[lime inlet]

i have 0 idea why i panicked lmao

just realized that if you reload a save with crustulum the reroll price will return for a reroll

[teal plover]

don't worry, it's a natural instinct to be afraid of time

[clear hare]

Sets game speed to 0.5X

[clear hare]

Universum, fixed already in dev

[clear hare]

seems like a weird Talisman bug? Currently in the middle of a big overhaul so may just fix itself

[weak burrow]

I thought the hold r ended up never working

[clear hare]

Yeah, Talisman saves crash on load
This can be fixed tho and I’m already making major update so I’ll add a fix

Savefiles actually run code so I can just inject a check for Talisman being installed before loading the contents of the save

I think vanilla doesn’t like if a savefile returns something empty either so I might need to make a dummy save that tells you like it can’t load because of Talisman or something

Since saves with different Talisman settings are incompatible it’s also a good way to put that in there

[green cove]

finally beat this

wee fib is kinda bonkers

[oak herald]

wee fib + wee joker

[green cove]

very fair deck

[clear hare]

That was quick

[green cove]

with a burg

[remote locust]

how fair

[green cove]

just get lucky

also had boredom last shop but didnt want to sell anything

[lime inlet]

rip

[snow rivet]

Do the italics mean it's cross-mod content? Should I italicize my own cross-mod ideas?

[clear hare]

Scammed

[snow rivet]

Aight, done.

[lime inlet]

how in the fuck

[subtle nova]

skill issue

I mean at the base level, that joker is like score X2

oh wait

[umbral dagger]

this is why I stan iterum for an early game exotic

[subtle nova]

that's the other one

idk what that one is

[umbral dagger]

planet cards give x2 mult and chips for the hand, though you need to survive to buy planets

[lime inlet]

crazy how efficare is one of the best jokers for wormhole deck

[clear hare]

Effarcire is also rly good early game

Because you just don’t have to worry about deck thin and you know you’ll get what you want

Ppl treat it like Chicot but it’s honestly not that bad

[oak herald]

it's probably because it doesn't do something super crazy like ^mult or whatever

it's just "draw your entire deck" and that doesn't really scale well, it doesn't really have a value

[umbral dagger]

ye that's also a good one early game, really helps with at least carrying your early game score through strong hands, the busted scaling stuff like universum and exponentia won't actually help you for a little bit, and the early game is usually the hardest part of the run

[lime inlet]

universum definitely helps early game

[oak herald]

it also does make playing your strongest hands free though, and you get strel retriggerd always

[lime inlet]

im sad the chaos the clown can't even multi free rerolls even with glitched/oversat

lmao just hit a 1 in 225 chance with lucky cards

[dusty plover]

what’s probably the best way to say ^mult

cuz you have plus mult, and ex mult

i’ve started calling it up mult

[cold sandal]

I use power mult

Or exponential mult

[dusty plover]

yeah ofc exponential mult is an option

but it would be like saying additive mult

[cold sandal]

If you're saying like plus 5 mult or x5 mult I'd say Mult to the 5th works best

[remote locust]

allow me to complicate things further, Mult^

[cold sandal]

If you're referring to it this way I'd say Reverse Power Mult or Reverse Exponential Mult, reverse could be replaced with inverted or alternate as well

[remote locust]

converse

[cold sandal]

But in the x5 or +5 mult way I'd say 5 to the Mult'th (even though it isnt a word)

[lime inlet]

i say expo mult for ^mult because that's how i've always said for exponential related things

[dusty plover]

all of these are valid if

[cold sandal]

Kinda just a me thing probably but if you say expo mult it feels like it'd be something only exponentia would have

[remote locust]

imagine a SMODS.Operator for crptid to make making mult/chip types easier

[dusty plover]

i e always just been fond of up mult

because you can stack it

[remote locust]

up mult?

[dusty plover]

like ^^mult could just be up up mult

[remote locust]

please no

[cold sandal]

My way of saying it would be more cursed

[lime inlet]

i tried making factorials for exponents and called it exponarial which is where i started referring to stuff like that

[remote locust]

at least say xaret

[cold sandal]

^^5 mult I'd say Mult to the to the fifth

[remote locust]

*caret

[dusty plover]

mult to the to the to the to the to the to the to the fifth

^^^^^^^5

[remote locust]

pentation + doesn't need to exist

[dusty plover]

but hyperoperationssssssss

[remote locust]

tetration is already stupid

[dusty plover]

but but but but but

[cold sandal]

At some point I also will say Mult Multi 6 to the fifth (or ^^^^^^5)

[dusty plover]

but hyperoperations :(

[cold sandal]

I had a goofy idea a while ago that was

Music Box {Uncommon}:
^^^5 Mult when this Joker stops playing music. {Plays a music box cover of Never Gonna Give You Up on loop, as such the ^^^5 Mult will never be obtainable}

[remote locust]

volume settings:

[cold sandal]

Just have it force the minimum volume to be 1

[remote locust]

computer volume settings:

[cold sandal]

Then it's technically still playing

You jsut cant hear it

[remote locust]

Jimball:

[cold sandal]

Both shall play

Or the other just cant appear while theyre obtained

Oh wait DoE

[remote locust]

Deck of Equalibrium

:

[cold sandal]

Both shall play

Either that

[soft night]

uh

[cold sandal]

Or it just destroys itself when Jimball is obtained, or when game volume is 0

[cold sandal]

And it cant be eternal

[soft night]

help

its crashing on startup

help

[cold sandal]

Drop the save file because Math (or someone else) may want it

Just incase

[soft night]

save file?

[cold sandal]

save.jkr

[soft night]

idk why thatd be a concern now

i cant even open the game

[subtle nova]

this is crashing quite early in the startup process

can you go to your mods directory and send a copy of lovely/dumps/main.lua?

[subtle nova]

that's the terminal

[soft night]

i sent that before you asked, or at least before i read

[subtle nova]

oh slow internet moment?

[soft night]

slow brain moment

[subtle nova]

this is the line it crahsed on

so that would imply nativefs.load is nil

[soft night]

can you simplify that

[subtle nova]

uhhh no

I'm working throguh how that would happen in my head

[soft night]

OH

[subtle nova]

Which mods do you have installed?

[soft night]

I BRAINWAVED

it was looking for Talisman/config.lua

what i had was Talisman**-main**/config.lua

it works now

[subtle nova]

oh yeah there is another pair of parenthacies there i missed

[soft night]

i think i know what happened

same principle as why talisman breaks normal saves

[severe jetty]

anyone know why mores code causes the game to crash?

[clear hare]

iirc I fixed it in dev

[severe jetty]

hmm

could be due to the quadratic joker i had at the time

[brave ibex]

it because of a missplaced value in it's code

[severe jetty]

ah

[brave ibex]

well incorrect more than missplaced

[severe jetty]

had i killer m build goin was hopein for the extra cash but some things just arnt meant to be

[brave ibex]

this file should fix it if you delete the old one and replace it with this

[severe jetty]

where would i put this if you dont mind me asking

[brave ibex]

should find it in items

replace the existing yM folder with that one

wait actually this was fixed before that file existed in the first place

just go and download the newest release or source code

i think you are a bit outdated

[severe jetty]

ah i guess i was on an older version could have sworn i updated on release day this update

thanks for the help dude

[brave ibex]

np

[rough violet]

still in wip but i think this is better

the plus looks a bit off

just noticed 1 wrong pixel

a or b

[soft night]

i like B

[remote locust]

b

[severe jetty]

Cryptid is fair and balanced

[rough violet]

seeurlpcl coming in clutch with the $3

[severe jetty]

real

[rough violet]

any suggestions on what to change or is this good

[soft night]

speaking of vouchers... woe! command prompt be upon ye

[rough violet]

spwn???

[soft night]

lmao

[rough violet]

2x

[soft night]

idk whether or not the buffer pixels were needed

[soft night]

its off by one pixel i think

[rough violet]

shit ur right

[remote locust]

scrap the whole idea /j

[rough violet]

fixed

better or worse

[soft night]

i like

tada

[cold sandal]

T3 voucher doesn't have the T3 background

[rough violet]

i think uplink could use some electric sparks

[soft night]

theres a background?

i was using this template here

[soft night]

will try

[cold sandal]

This is the placeholder one from the files

It has a funky background

I think theres one somewhere in this chat without the placeholder text

[clear hare]

We should change the B in the template to an M

[cold sandal]

te(m)plate

[rough violet]

m voucher when

[rough violet]

letter, alphabet, lexicon

[cold sandal]

This Guy

Double 🇲 Ⓜ️ react him

[upper pendant]

common math M

[remote locust]

did somebody say… math

[wary pasture]

probably

[summer cargo]

fair and balanced t3 voucher ideas over here

[upper pendant]

we might have to have a proper support for t3 vouchers in the gui first

[soft night]

i need that

also

[clear hare]

That feels maybe more like a modloader thing

Although Steamodded lets Vouchers require any combination of vouchers to be redeemed

[soft night]

oh right werent we gonna give T3 vouchers fire effect

[livid temple]

i keep constantly downloading the newest cryptid source whenever its updated

i have no idea why

omg lol

the wormhole buff gave me a negative exotic joker on spawn

i skipped it but still

math what happened to the epic tag in latest source

its been removed

[summer cargo]

the downgraderrrrr

[cold sandal]

There was a bug with it

That math tried to fix

And uh

Probably still is bugged

[livid temple]

what even needed fixing with it

it creates an epic joker and sets it to half price

[cold sandal]

It was only spawning one joker

And deleting all the others

when you had multiple

[livid temple]

when you had multiple epics?

[cold sandal]

When you had multiple epic tags

Then

[livid temple]

oh damn

[cold sandal]

Trying to fix it made it worse

[livid temple]

hopefully that gets fixed completely

[cold sandal]

I think it was fixed so Math may have just forgot to add it back

"disabled due to bug"

Might still be broken then

Idk

[clear hare]

Yea I couldn’t fix it and didn’t want to enable it until I figured it out

[civic acorn]

Guys, am I cooking with these T3 ideas for Betmma's Vouchers?

#1225831216939536394 message

[weak burrow]

Wait until you see the t3 vouchers of this mod

The suggestions of them atleast

[summer cargo]

can't wait for, bloody
Eternal Recurrance Tier ∞ Voucher You no longer use up hands when playing cards.

[weak burrow]

I mean you'd still lose if you run out of cards so it's meh

[worldly gust]

So you're saying that's a viable idea for a voucher?

[granite ibex]

isn't that a thing already

[weak burrow]

Maybe a voucher for a deck redraw could be an idea if it's possible

[green cove]

tier 3 of magic trick

[junior river]

every card can be modified an infinite amount of times

[chrome comet]

I just started editing and that first run. vod is over 4hrs long.

Granted 3 of that is me rerolling

[weak burrow]

Average Cryptid run be like

I also couldn't stop myself from rerolling in a run where I needed to optimize my joker amount to not lag

I'm like saying to myself stop rerolling you don't need anything

But I keep rerolling

[silver cobalt]

The code uses pow mult

[true harness]

pow/power mult should be short and simple enough

[silver cobalt]

That video is gonna be insane when it comes out

Also this mod is gonna get a lot more popular

[dusty plover]

pow mult seems decent ig

isn’t roffle streaming it soon?

when he raided the stream i think he said he was gonna stream it

[chrome comet]

Should be Monday. Fingers crossed I can get it done today

[chrome comet]

Oh he did. Nice. I need to warn him to backup his saves

[dusty plover]

lmao

[upper veldt]

does a glitched lucky card randomie the chances

[green cove]

It feels like it should

Because stuff like oversaturated halves the chance for spaceman to proc

[upper veldt]

so it doesn't

that's a bummer

it also doesn't work on the azure seal which i found weird

because it does work on the perishable timer

soo i just got a hard crash when using cryptid the spectral on a card with the enhancement white hole

but i used cryptid the spectral on that same card earlier in the run and it worked fine

the run now hard crashes on load 😭

[green cove]

Seal takes amount of planets from the prototype which will always be unchanged. Because the card only stores the seal name under the "seal" parameter. I guess it could be stored on the card somehow, with like "seal_data", but Idk

[upper veldt]

i see

[upper veldt]

god i fucking love glitched

something about this is just so funny

[brave ibex]

classic misprint deck interaction

[echo jacinth]

if blueprint and brainstorm copy eachother make them do 10^mult

[upper veldt]

how can i feel bad for a list

[snow rivet]

Make the sound for that interaction the Baba Is You infinite loop sound. Also probably make that one of many possible paradox/infinite loop effects.

[soft night]

im sad nobody saw the reference in this one

[brave ibex]

i'm sure someone will

[echo jacinth]

how about:
1 in 2 for +4 mult
1 in 4 for x2 mult
1 in 8 for x10 mult
1 in 16 for ^2 mult
1 in 32 for ^3 mult
1 in 64 for 2^mult
1 in 128 for 10^mult
1 in 256 for mult^mult
1 in 256 for mult^^mult

[remote locust]

mult^mult?

[echo jacinth]

mult^^2

[summer cargo]

take the current mult and power it to itself

[remote locust]

Just say ^^2 Mult

[echo jacinth]

no

[snow rivet]

And ^^^2 Mult.

[summer cargo]

reroll synergy pog

[spare cape]

the budget effarcire

now with free chips!

[livid temple]

ive never seen the sfol joker

whats it from

[spare cape]

does seal the deal just....not work?

last hand played never seems to get seals on them, did both small and big blinds

oh wait its on boss blind last hand

nvm

[vestal seal]

the world ends with jimbo

[clear hare]

It works like Dusk

But not written very well; will probably change it to winning hand

[versed bay]

yeah it has to actually be the last hand you could play

not just the last hand you DID play

[soft night]

://MACHINECODE

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spare cape]

huh

[soft night]

it's on the final hand of round

like dusk

://ASSEMBLE

[brave ibex]

the gang is all here

[soft night]

?

[brave ibex]

lemme look for the rest of the art

i'll put it all in the sheet

[soft night]

im not done yet lol

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LNaIouU3vrtWIuPBdFCqLyjYAjVtq7t64xjHnckEY50/edit

im putting it here

[brave ibex]

that makes my life easier

[soft night]

://ELSEIF replaces ://UPDATE btw

[grim tendon]

://BRANCH: Create a negative copy of this card when used. When the copy is used, go back to when you used the first ://BRANCH. (Cannot have multiple branches at once)

not sure if this is a card or not

[soft night]

its not but we have enough

[grim tendon]

ok

[soft night]

also fixed inconsistency with assemble

[grim tendon]

also what are the crash types for ://CRASH ?

does it just give a random error, or

[soft night]

up to math when he adds it

[brave ibex]

wip boss blinds

[clear hare]

Might make it pick a random payload like we talked about

[grim tendon]

fishtalgia

[spare cape]

Nostalgic Fish sounds like a good old youtuber that uploads a 10 hour documentary like once every 10 months about the most niche stuff ever

and the vids are awesome

[grim tendon]

Summoning Salt

[brave ibex]

it does doesn't it

[brave ibex]

lol

[spare cape]

new boss blind just dropped?!??!

[remote locust]

weak /j

[brave ibex]

i have some more frustrating ones planned

[grim tendon]

hey whats a showdown blind?

[brave ibex]

ante 8

[grim tendon]

ah ok

in that case this needs to be updated

[remote locust]

how frustrating?

[brave ibex]

have one that's gonna be "1 in 3 chance for hand to not score"

[remote locust]

that's not very nice

[grim tendon]

lets go gambling

[brave ibex]

exactly 😈

[spare cape]

aw dang it

[remote locust]

double oops all 6s:

[brave ibex]

it's gonna be the next plant pareidolia frfr

[remote locust]

at least you can win that one

[grim tendon]

did i cook

[dusty plover]

that’s so evil i love it

[clear hare]

Nah it’s kinda like the wall

Most you’re going to get is X1.1^12

[grim tendon]

its 1mil at its worst

yes i rounded

[clear hare]

You should do it across the whole run

X1.1 blind size for number of rounds this run

[grim tendon]

that would be too much

[dusty plover]

hieroglyph and petroglyph

[clear hare]

This is Cryptid tho

[remote locust]

Bonus Blinds:

[grim tendon]

ok its 2mil at 8 antes thats fine

[clear hare]

I still think it’s too similar to vessel tho, but scaling with antes is interesting

[grim tendon]

the difference is one is constant, one is exponential

[dusty plover]

we should make it ACTUALLY exponential

[remote locust]

so would there be a way for cryptid to not count bonus blinds as boss blinds when played with the small and big blinds defeated

[grim tendon]

they would count

[dusty plover]

^2 blind requirement per final boss blind fought this run

[grim tendon]

but then it would be useless on ante 8

[dusty plover]

it’s meant to kill you later on

should add

[grim tendon]

why give a free win for non-endless users

[dusty plover]

(cannot appear on ante 8)

[soft night]

://NPE

[remote locust]

im asking since if you activate a bonus blind while the big and small blind are defeated winning increases the ante.

among other issues

[grim tendon]

another one

[clear hare]

There’s a stake that makes boss blinds appear as big blinds so check that code

It’s likely what is causing issues

It’ll probably be in Stakes.toml

[dusty plover]

jokerless

[grim tendon]

who cares

[dusty plover]

same thing but opposite

[grim tendon]

imagine doing challenges and expecting to do well

[dusty plover]

1x size, increases by 0.2x per unique joker bought this run

[grim tendon]

no just joker, no unique

funnier

[deep kite]

sobbing (had to manually update talisman and now it's still bugging out 😭)

not even any jokers or anything

[remote locust]

k ty

[clear hare]

To be expected in an alpha build

[grim tendon]

just made the needle at normal boss blind size

[deep kite]

fair

Just gotta wait for a fix 🙏

[soft night]

://DIVIDE

://MULTIPLY

://REWORK

[cold sandal]

I have

A really stupid idea

Omega Cube:
^25 Chips, Only spawns if you have Big Cube, Costs $625

and its common

[upper veldt]

finally

10x glitch

[soft night]

://INSTANTIATE

[oak herald]

not ^6 chips?

[soft night]

^36

[cold sandal]

Please just link the discord message with the art
(P sure this is Jevonn)

[brave ibex]

but there all in one place 🥺

fine ig

[soft night]

i'm with jevonn here

why would you not link the doc where everything is in one place

[cold sandal]

This is consistent with the rest of the sheet

Plus you only have to click one link to find the art

[soft night]

discord redirects are kinda borked sometimes

plus now there's no point to the doc

:(

oh wait heres a solution

put the doc as a hyperlink here

sorry i just like the doc for organization

[lime inlet]

funny jonkler idea
X3 all money gained, payout only appears after Boss Blind is defeated

[soft night]

log btw

://EXPLOIT

this is another code card i can see being in a meme pack

also buffing CTRL+V

it can now clone either a playing card or a consumable

this works with consumables in packs too

so you can Y O I N K one

global

one more

DONE

i'm going as far as to make a fucking unique theme for the program packs

h e l p

[clear hare]

Keep in mind in-game music is pitched down and slowed a bit compared to the files

[soft night]

oh it is?

[clear hare]

https://musescore.com/user/8237321/scores/14590660
And this transcription might help

[soft night]

i'm using that exact score

[soft night]

once i have it done i can go into audacity and pitchbend/speed it up the exact amount the game undoes that lol

[spare cape]

are ya codin your cards until you balatro

[soft night]

i know that the pack themes have some deviation from the normal formula so the same can be said here

thinking of calling this track
://LETS_BREAK_THE_GAME

[clear hare]

maybe ://^G in homage to the character that makes a beep noise if you type it in the command prompt

[remote locust]

nice, i like it.

[clear hare]

yeah it slaps

[soft night]

wait does this mean cryptid is the first mod with an OST

[remote locust]

well is it IN crpyid yet

or should i say

encrypted

[jaunty scarab]

LobCorp has one iirc, but I'm not sure if it's custom music or if it's from Lobotomy Corp.

[dusty plover]

didnt reverie have a soundtrack in the cinema packs? i thought it did but idk

[jaunty scarab]

In fact the mod is 20 MB because of sounds :]

[silver cobalt]

We need a meme pack soundtrack

[dusty plover]

just the regular balatro sound track but only vine booms

[silver cobalt]

Keychain soundtrack too

Also a soundtrack for when you are in possession of an exotic which is just balatro breakcore

[dusty plover]

cryptid will have a soundtrack that rivals terraria calamity itself…

[soft night]

as an ultrakill UST composer i can say that there is a lot of work for me to do now

[wary pasture]

I'm not sure what number to put in or how to fit name, but how does this look for the circle of life?

[soft night]

i like

also call it Life in the name text

[dusty plover]

nice

[oblique urchin]

Looks really good!

[clear hare]

By the way this wouldn’t happen if it’s coded like Jimballms music

[silver cobalt]

I mean i also have some decent knowledge of music production

And i own fl studio

[dusty plover]

i am a music listener, not a music maker

(and i can play music on percussion stuff but that’s not the point)

[vestal seal]

same

[dusty plover]

cryptid just keeps getting bigger and bigger

[vestal seal]

actually cooking something as i say that

[soft night]

its like 5 mods in one now

[dusty plover]

when i originally saw this mod i was like ‘damn… exotic jokers AND tier 3 vouchers??’

that was like the very beginning of conceptualization when i found the thread and followed it

[soft night]

now we're getting keys, tablets, code cards, new enhancements, curses, bosses...

[dusty plover]

then epic got added, and more tags, then more, and more, and MORE, AND ITS STILL GOING

this mod will never reach a fully finished version

and i like that

because always stuff to look forward to

we’re gonna get to version 0.9.9

and then math is just gonna drop version 0.9.9.1

or 0.10.9

[clear hare]

0.108.0

[remote locust]

0.9.9.9.9.9.9...

[dusty plover]

0.naneinf.0

[scenic pumice]

wait cryptid's also getting curses?

[silver cobalt]

What if the meme pack had a sorta bossa nova wii shop like remix of the balatro theme

[scenic pumice]

how do they work?

[wary pasture]

How's this?

[dusty plover]

that would be funny

[clear hare]

Reminds me of these patchnotes

https://openplanet.dev/plugin/editor

[dusty plover]

is roblox… (sorry)

[clear hare]

It’s on like 0.8.999999993

[dusty plover]

it’s nice

[dusty plover]

lmao

[scenic pumice]

.

[clear hare]

Applied by boss blinds (and stakes?), lifted at end of round

I think

[scenic pumice]

huh

[soft night]

debuffed is one of them

[silver cobalt]

How on earth

[scenic pumice]

ah

[soft night]

there's gonna be burnt, frozen, and radioactive later

[scenic pumice]

so a bit like the ortalab ones

[dusty plover]

curse of the joke: fuck you. (sends you to ante multiple of 8)

[soft night]

peak

[clear hare]

https://youtu.be/ICU9FVo6f5Q?feature=shared
This but slowed

[silver cobalt]

No, some of then are persistent

Radioactive doesnt even have an effect on the blind you play it

[clear hare]

ah, I didn’t look much at the new ones

[scenic pumice]

so more like ortalab's ones than i thought

[silver cobalt]

It just gives you a massive headache later as you have to destroy them all before the blinds become unwinnable

[scenic pumice]

just applied by bosses instead of consumables/jokers

[silver cobalt]

Im pretty sure if you try to destroy a locked card it creates 2 more locked cards

[scenic pumice]

yikes!!

[soft night]

or slap a bandaid on it

[scenic pumice]

way worse than ortalab curses

[remote locust]

it's not a bug it's a feature

[soft night]

it's not a feature it's a bug

[clear hare]

We’re talking about bugs when they haven’t been coded yet

[remote locust]

patches Tarot Cards

[scenic pumice]

mojang when they wanna remove qc:

[dusty plover]

new balatro release notes

removed mult because it was unrealistic

removed all non colored decks

removed deck effects because unrealistic

[remote locust]

removed dollars as they were too expensive

[dusty plover]

removed all jokers except for jimbo

jimbo now does nothing

multiplayer added

[soft night]

it's just poker now

[umbral dagger]

removed the balatro from your balatro

[dusty plover]

removed video interface (you have to go to a casino)

[umbral dagger]

its just solitaire now

[dusty plover]

removed save files

removed tarot cards

planet cards still exist but you have to go to said planet to get them (earth’s cards are in the core)

[remote locust]

i already said that

[dusty plover]

well they’re double removed!!!

hand size reduced to 2

[remote locust]

yay, all tarot cards are negative then

[silver cobalt]

Gambling added

[dusty plover]

hope you guys have fun in version 1.2

[remote locust]

im excited and scared for tetration

[dusty plover]

(1.1 has never existed)

[soft night]

[umbral dagger]

aw dangit aw dangit aw dangit aw dangit aw da-

[silver cobalt]

That is so unlucky

[remote locust]

let's analyze that

[soft night]

uh oh

[remote locust]

there are 9 tags and a 3 in 4 chance for each to fail

meaning there is about a 7.508468627% chance for this to happen

[dusty plover]

not tok bad

too

[remote locust]

i'd call it unlucky but not so unlucky

[silver cobalt]

What if stakes below white stake

[clear hare]

Antimatter Stake

[silver cobalt]

Baby blue stake: +1 Hand

[dusty plover]

this mod’s motto is becoming ‘sure why not’

[silver cobalt]

Pastel Orange Stake: Boss blinds have 1.5X base

[dusty plover]

stakes below white stake? sure why not

a deck that combines the effects of every deck? sure why not

[soft night]

• reverses all stake maluses

[dusty plover]

epic rarity jokers? sure why not

it’s so beautiful

[silver cobalt]

Ok so a color order

I think they should all be light pastel colors

[clear hare]

three new consumable types? sure why not

[dusty plover]

new songs? sure why not

[fiery cradle]

does anyone know what the rarity would be for the joker i suggested a couple of days ago?

[remote locust]

entirely new game? sure why not

[soft night]

i think code cards are the only one to have all of their art finished LOL

and only 5 days after being concepted

[dusty plover]

what’s the joker

[clear hare]

y’all cooked on the code cards

after adding everything I promised last version I’m adding those all in

[fiery cradle]

math(s) is fun, row 43 in the recent suggestions box

[soft night]

well one of them requires key functionality

[clear hare]

Although some may wait because of dependencies (ex. ://KEYGEN)

[dusty plover]

lemme check rq

[silver cobalt]

So:
Baby Blue
Beige
Pink
Lavender
Eggshell
Turqoise
Negative
Antimatter

These can have some fun effects

Antimatter should be way easier than the rest of them and make real autowin deck a joke

[dusty plover]

i’d call it uncommon, because while it can be powerful (i assume) it’s got drawbacks

[fiery cradle]

fair enough

[silver cobalt]

Baby Blue is already +1 Hand

[dusty plover]

we should put the ‘baby stakes’ (i’m gonna call them that now because baby blue stake) below white stake but NOT have them be selected by default

[scenic pumice]

T3 vouchers? sure why not

waugh

[silver cobalt]

Yes

Beige Stake is kinda drab

[scenic pumice]

why did discord send me two lightyears into the past

[dusty plover]

what if the unlock requirements for the low stakes would be like

lose one run

[silver cobalt]

So common jokers give 1.5x mult

[dusty plover]

or

[silver cobalt]

Might be too powerful tho for the second stake

[dusty plover]

lose on (X) ante

[silver cobalt]

Great

[soft night]

the ones i can think of are

• ://KEYGEN (needs Keys)
• HOOK:// (needs Joker trigger rewrite)
• ://ELSEIF (needs special implementation)

[granite ibex]

add complex stakes

[dusty plover]

1+ 1i stake (maroon stake)

[silver cobalt]

Ima just add ideas for these to the concepting sheet

[soft night]

stake -1

[dusty plover]

small blinds can give reward money anywhere from -3 to 3

is maroon stake already used

idek

[clear hare]

Now that I think about it HOOK feels not too bad

Oh yeah I still need the callback thingy tho

So maybe it is

[soft night]

://VARIABLE needs its own UI element i think

[clear hare]

Lose a run on previous stake
Stake API not gonna like that but we can see

[remote locust]

lose a run on ante -1

[dusty plover]

i mean we can worry about the unlocks later

i don’t know of a single person who plays cryptid on a non unlocked all profile

[soft night]

something like this

it's not showing 2 because variable is being used on a 2

[dusty plover]

looks decent

[soft night]

i'd like to see this be one of the first ones tbh

[clear hare]

Wait until someone adds modded ranks

[dusty plover]

i like

[soft night]

we'll cross that bridge when we come to it

iirc i already concepted a blind that adds 0s

[clear hare]

That wip joker deck mod uses ranks internally

For jokers as playing cards

[soft night]

good lord

[oak herald]

balatro mods are getting advanced

[silver cobalt]

How do you guys like these for baby stakes

[clear hare]

Antimatter stake lmao

[brave ibex]

white stake is already easy enough tho

[soft night]

i want antimatter stake to be the antithesis of every other stake

[clear hare]

Maybe “remove ante scaling”

[soft night]

"Applies the inverse effects of all other stakes with negative effects"

[clear hare]

So all blinds are 300/450/600

[silver cobalt]

It now inverses the effect of every non-baby stake

[soft night]

excellent

[clear hare]

Inverses all negative stake effects

[silver cobalt]

Well they are baby stakes

As negative is an actual stake

[soft night]

Inverses all stake maluses

[fiery cradle]

made some art for the joker

[silver cobalt]

You think a baby is gonna know what malus means?

[soft night]

yes

[remote locust]

don't stakes apply all lower stakes

[soft night]

yes

[silver cobalt]

Babies dont speak latin

[fiery cradle]

and here's the big version for convenience:

[soft night]

yes

[fiery cradle]

huh

why it still smol

bruh

[silver cobalt]

They shouldnt apply baby stakes tho

That reeeeeally shouldnt be happening

[fiery cradle]

oh

[dusty plover]

one person said ‘what if stakes below white stake’ and boom it’s gonna be in the mod

[fiery cradle]

HERE's the big one

[dusty plover]

already fully conceptualized

[silver cobalt]

Cryptid be like

M

[dusty plover]

m

[fiery cradle]

m

[teal plover]

what is this, 4x resolution?

[fiery cradle]

i made a 1x version, just wanted to make it easier to see

[dusty plover]

other mods: hmmm, does this fit in the mod? i need to make sure everything fits and flows together so the mod feels cohesive
cryptid: hey nice idea you got there YOINK

[silver cobalt]

I swear sometimes i feel so demotivated because i suck at high res pixel art

[soft night]

hey guys what if i made 32 MORE code cards-

[dusty plover]

do it

[teal plover]

i've gone mad.

[soft night]

/j

[silver cobalt]

My robalatro gear art looks nice but only because i confined myself to a tiny area

[soft night]

please tell me youre using my tetration sound

[teal plover]

yes, i am.

[soft night]

yippee

[teal plover]

and now you should make pentational mult

[silver cobalt]

How to kill a game and get away with it

[teal plover]

i could also use an exponential and tetrational chip sound effect

probably pentation as well

[fiery cradle]

factorial mult joker when

[silver cobalt]

Shoot pink stake is taken

Better find a new color

[soft night]

exp. chips is already done

[dusty plover]

hyper-scale: scaling jokers gain one hyper-operation when they level up
(ex +1 mult, x2 mult, ^3 mult, ^^4 mult) (compatible with double scale)

[soft night]

OH BRUH

[mystic raft]

Mult^^ when

[teal plover]

eh, i mean, i get it, but it doesn't feel like it's emphasising pentation enough

[silver cobalt]

It is now coral stake

[dusty plover]

anything above tetration is just tetration sound but louder

[silver cobalt]

Yeah thats prob the solution

[remote locust]

the issue with pentation+ is that it's simply a new scale of numbers previously unreachable each time

[clear hare]

this feels like something for jenwalter's mod haha

[dusty plover]

that’s how it was with x to ^ mult

[teal plover]

i don't care i'm going to bring this game to its knees as much as possible

[remote locust]

the game will be fine your computer will not

[teal plover]

dude, i have a gaming computer

[dusty plover]

@teal plover is this even possible to add to your mod? if yes then consider it a suggestion

[remote locust]

as pentation+ is recursive

your gaming computer means nothing in that respect

[teal plover]

what do you mean it means nothing in that respect?

[remote locust]

i mean the processing time increases exponentially

[snow rivet]

Maybe the easy stakes are an effect of an Exotic or Transcendent Joker. Kinda like Redeo but it lowers the effective Stake when activated.

[clear hare]

one operation of {1000}Mult causes my game to freeze for several seconds

[dusty plover]

several meaning…

[remote locust]

oh that's is

[granite ibex]

set mult to G_{mult}

[dusty plover]

like 2-3?

[remote locust]

wait ONE operation

oh dear

[teal plover]

several seconds doesn't sound like a big deal

[snow rivet]

Or it adds a random easy stake to your Stakes when activated.

[remote locust]

so please don't fly too close to the sun

[mystic raft]

That will probably take about as much time as you have mult

[silver cobalt]

Canvas

[remote locust]

no, it's a SINGULAR operation

every single time it's evaluated

[teal plover]

still not a big deal when you consider how patient i am

[soft night]

here

[dusty plover]

if you’re playing a mod that would allow operations like this to take place im not sure you’d be too worried about time

[teal plover]

i think the game will fall flat on its face first

[silver cobalt]

Fun fact: the game will just crash

[teal plover]

love it

[silver cobalt]

Hard crash

[snow rivet]

What's Jenwalter's mod called anyway? Does it have a forum here?

[teal plover]

it's not released yet

but it will be called "Jen's Almanac"

[snow rivet]

Neat.

[dusty plover]

smaller but probably more nuts

[teal plover]

it's so broken to the point it makes literally no sense whatsoever

[dusty plover]

lmao

[snow rivet]

Is there a mult! sound?

[granite ibex]

is this a joke?

[teal plover]

no, it's not a joke.

[granite ibex]

how is this mechanically different from universum apart from "ha ha bigger number"

[teal plover]

does it need to be mechanically different?

[silver cobalt]

In 0 way shape of form

[granite ibex]

well, no

[teal plover]

then case closed

lol

[snow rivet]

Maybe there should be a setting either here or in Jen's Almanac to determine how really big numbers are shown, like in Cookie Clicker and Antimatter Dimensions.

[teal plover]

mind getting me pentational chips as well

[clear hare]

it doesn't apply on level downs, but universum does

[granite ibex]

that seems like a weird edge case tbh

but the wording does imply that

[soft night]

god i cant do this anymore

legit

[teal plover]

talisman's formatting is fine enough, there isn't really any other better way to show the numbers in a notation that isn't e or hyper-e

[soft night]

every hyperoperation means another sfx

its hard ok

[teal plover]

hex, calm down

[dusty plover]

simple solution just make the sfx LOUDER

[soft night]

its hard coming up with ones that sound more batshit than the last

[teal plover]

hex

i said calm down

just pentation, no more than that

[dusty plover]

hexation: just louder pentation

septation: just louder hexation

[clear hare]

https://www.myinstants.com/en/instant/the-loudest-noise-ever-69615/

[dusty plover]

and it’s got a log operation volume level so it’s not ear bleedingly loud

[teal plover]

if i ever do hextation or above, i'll just edit the previous hyperoperation's sound effect myself, pentation is all i want

[snow rivet]

That or just make them meme sound effects. ^^^^Chips is just Wario's HAAA.

[remote locust]

we don't even have tetration yet

[teal plover]

tetrisation

[soft night]

wheres the dell supportassist hard drive failure beeps

[teal plover]

lol

i mean if you really can't do it then i'll do it myself, not to worry

[snow rivet]

LOL computer failure noises would be a fitting basis for googologically huge hyperoperations' SFX.

[soft night]

theeeeeeere it is

[teal plover]

lol

[soft night]

use this for ://CRASH

this sound is the stuff of my nightmares i stg the amount of times ive been woken up at 4 AM

[oak herald]

KABOOOOOOOM

[deep kite]

Oh yeah, it would be fun once the mod gets updated more to add CardSleeves support

imagine Deck of Equilibrium sleeve

[soft night]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CFLFbvtb4M

hexation

[teal plover]

bonus points for compression

[soft night]

WAIT NO, CRASH SHOULD PLAY THIS

[soft night]

or random sound effect each time, including this

WTF boom
and then along came zeus

[teal plover]

dude this exponential chip sound effect of yours

i could listen to it on loop

it sounds satisfying

[soft night]

:3

[teal plover]

i wish i had your tricks of the trade to save you the trouble

[oak herald]

can't wait for roffle to play this mod tomorrow

[soft night]

FL Studio and Pixabay are my tools of the trade, as for my tricks? they're just "fuck around"

[teal plover]

https://tenor.com/view/fafo-findout-fuckaround-fuckaroundandfindout-you-gif-26826252

[soft night]

yep

[cold sandal]

The sound of suffering but as a joker

And this (Idk just repeat Tetrational Chips a bunch of times when it's above tetration, could probably be done through code but idk)

(This is an effect from the ADHD Joker)
151: Conditional Chip Jokers now all gain 1 hyperoperation

[soft night]

will ADHD joker have code card related effects

[cold sandal]

Yeah

[snow rivet]

Oh hey, factorials mentioned.

[cold sandal]

in the 4XX category probably

[soft night]

can i suggest one

[cold sandal]

Sure

[soft night]

445: Create ://CRASH

(error 445: object does not support this action)

[dusty plover]

how many effects is adhd joker planned to have anyways

[soft night]

6 choose 3

or was it 3 choose 6

idk

probability

[cold sandal]

216 effects

[remote locust]

you can't choose 6 from 3.

[soft night]

c

[cold sandal]

m

[soft night]

that's my response. c

[teal plover]

it works alright

[true harness]

applying tetration to chip and Mult separately in leveled up poker hand

perfectly balanced

[remote locust]

apply the hyperopration of the current level of the poker hand upon leveling

[soft night]

wtf

[clear hare]

white hole synergy

[true harness]

I mean

[soft night]

white hole computer destruction

[true harness]

the new limit is 10{1000}10 now, why not bring out tetration Mult already

[teal plover]

i love tetration

[true harness]

nani

bulk use changes how tetration is calculated?

[teal plover]

why, is it not right?

[soft night]

this is correct

[true harness]

what happens when you use Neptune 4 separate times tho

[soft night]

youre using it quarce which means ^^2 four times, or ^^16 total

so it shouldnt matter

[remote locust]

r u sure that's how that works?

[true harness]

like I said

[remote locust]

cuz i don't think that's how that works

[true harness]

it applies ^^2 after getting to lv2, which gives a humongous value

[teal plover]

hmm, there does appear to be a bit of a problem

[soft night]

oh wait yeah, right

[true harness]

then apply ^^2 to that value

[soft night]

sorry im being stupid

[remote locust]

it is indeed not how that works

[granite ibex]

isn't x! strictly lower than x^x

[remote locust]

1:

[granite ibex]

<=

[soft night]

the

[clear hare]

You could show the same animations but then calculate it correctly internally

[teal plover]

eeee302 x eeee14, clearly my function's doing it wrong

[clear hare]

With like a for loop

It’ll still be different because you’re adding then tetrating one at a time

[teal plover]

i'll try a different approach and see what happens

[teal plover]

i've fixed it, it now calculates properly either way