#Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]

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brave ibex
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Uh are you playing deck of xmult

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That’s supposed to be negative

true harness
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nope, it was antimatter deck

brave ibex
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Maybe math nerfed it

clear hare
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yeah this might be free

brave ibex
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Cryptid moment

clear hare
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casual 39 billion

true harness
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ability to put seals on jokers when balatrojoker

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gold seal: +$3 when this joker is triggered
blue seal: unchanged
red seal: unchanged
purple seal: create a tarot card every hand played

soft night
clear hare
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interesting

clear hare
soft night
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added Global too

clear hare
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discard feels way to manipulable

true harness
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hm

soft night
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the Cycle Deck feels like a lot of fun tbh

true harness
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so, vagabond without the money limit?

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alr

soft night
clear hare
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might be cool with two so you don't feel boxed in

soft night
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that sounds good

cold sandal
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Just realized i have a new consumable type to play with concepting for the ADHD Joker

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:)

upper pendant
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is there even a deck.lua in the game?

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i was trying to manually apply the patches in the latest few commits but i cant even find any deck.lua in the source file

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or it actually means back.lua

jaunty scarab
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Pretty sure it’s back.lua

upper pendant
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ok got it lol. thought i been playing a corrupted game

oak herald
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today i found out univertism works with canvas

cold sandal
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I had a lot of canvas universum retriggers and used black hole and all my hands became inf x inf

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iirc universum being compatible with canvas was added like a month to 1.5 months ago

lime inlet
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trying to get back into playing this mod(haven't played in weeks) and got this error

clear hare
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known bug

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iirc it’s steamodded’s fault

lime inlet
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fixed it
just had to get rid of smth else

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(and totally wasn't blind to the latest release)

weak burrow
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@clear hare how do i get astral cards in cryptid? without using debugplus

lime inlet
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crashed when i started a new run

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ig i solved it... again

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nvm

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:)

weak burrow
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sounds like youre having fun

lime inlet
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atp i just need someone else's files bruh 😭

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you have no idea how much im praying for this to not crash

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it crashed

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im dying

raven wedge
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🎉

jaunty scarab
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The hell?

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Missing atlas crash?

lime inlet
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it crashes the moment i play a hand or discard

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it handled a tarot pack nicely why not that

summer cargo
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Are you sure wormhole deck actually does have 5x negative rate

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I've found exactly one negative card in 5 antes 8 antes

lime inlet
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im so desperate to make this work i give up

clear hare
clear hare
weak burrow
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yeah but i imagined something to be able spawn them for testing

clear hare
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DebugPlus

weak burrow
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yeah problem with debug is that it also cycles through the randomizer edition

clear hare
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It’s probably deserving of a buff still since negatives are very rare as it is

weak burrow
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or enhancement

oak herald
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start run on wormhole deck

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negative speculo

lime inlet
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can anyone lend their mod files so i can stop losing it (hopefully)

oak herald
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I CAN'T STOP WINNING

weak burrow
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you want cryptid and talisman?

umbral dagger
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lets go gambling tag my beloved

lime inlet
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i think its lovely that's wrong but i have no idea

weak burrow
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idk if i should have that in the mods folder but this is what i have

clear hare
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I should add the sfx to this tag

lime inlet
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i meant the injector lmao

weak burrow
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oh

clear hare
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Also tag proc is called yep internally in the code

weak burrow
lime inlet
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it closed on discard

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im dying once more

clear hare
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You probably have Cryptid installed in a nested folder

lime inlet
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nope

summer cargo
lime inlet
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im gonna eat smth

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so i can forget about ever attempting this

silver cobalt
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What would be perfect is adding an illuminati reference

clear hare
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jimbo pyramid

silver cobalt
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We need enhancement decks and edition decks for cryptid enhancements and editions

summer cargo
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barely an inconvenience

true harness
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{s:0.8}Cards cannot change editions{}

summer cargo
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it's not smaller in any of the other decks

true harness
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ah

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deja vu then

green cove
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Cards cannot change editions by default

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Kinda redundant

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But Ig for consistency

oak herald
soft night
green cove
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Hm

summer cargo
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(this applies to jokers as well more relevantly)

green cove
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Oh wait I forgot there's spectral that removes editions

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That makes sense

green cove
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Except for negative with ankh / invis

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In vanilla

summer cargo
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wheel of fortune:

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hex as well

green cove
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Oh is that how it works

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If joker has base Edition it cannot become negative?

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I see

summer cargo
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actually glitched playing cards seem all kinds of screwed up

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"sorted by rank" huh

green cove
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That was on murphs stream too

summer cargo
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my guess is that it glitches the internal "rank" number

green cove
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Never happened to me so Idk how

green cove
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Probably same bug on misprint deck then?

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If you add card from booster or something

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Unless math already fixed that

raven wedge
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does it randomize the nominal

green cove
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No clue how it works and not at pc rn

soft night
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Usually that's equivalent to the rank, so that's not made apparent.

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With a Glitched card, not so much.

soft night
clear hare
raven wedge
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it uses nominal

green cove
soft night
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maybe idk i was just trying to sound smart based on what i noticed with my own observations

remote locust
soft night
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funny?

raven wedge
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why is. card and not self

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@teal plover

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oh wait misunderstood the code

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but still crashes

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just recently updated stuff, is this the twewy and cryptid incompat that i heard of

feral silo
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My hobbies include running Cryptid from the main branch.

raven wedge
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oh hm i think this might be a twewy issue rather than cryptid's?

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no it just suffers regardless gah

silver cobalt
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m

wary pasture
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m

clear hare
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m

subtle nova
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m

oak wigeon
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m

vestal seal
dusty plover
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m

echo jacinth
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mmmmmmmmmichael

subtle nova
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Gros Mmmmmmmmmmmicheal

jaunty scarab
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I think a lovely patch from Cryptid is breaking SMODS.Booster's create_card function

clear hare
jaunty scarab
clear hare
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maybe check installation to see if the assets are there

jaunty scarab
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I could rewrite the regex to target something else

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But it's hard to latch onto something with so many uses

clear hare
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my patch could also be easily changed into an after patch

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since you can just ditch the else statement

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# Empowered Tag
[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = 'card.lua'
pattern = '''card = create_card("Spectral", G.pack_cards, nil, nil, true, true, nil, 'spe')'''
position = 'after'
match_indent = true
payload = '''
if self.from_empowered then
    if i == 1 then
        card = create_card("Spectral", G.pack_cards, nil, nil, true, true, 'c_soul', 'spe')
    else
        card = create_card("Spectral", G.pack_cards, nil, nil, true, true, G.P_CENTERS.c_cry_gateway and 'c_cry_gateway' or 'c_soul', 'spe')
    end
end
'''
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this should work while letting the patch apply I think

cold sandal
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Hehehe

jaunty scarab
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Getting a syntax error from missing end

cold sandal
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Fancy a voucher anybody?

clear hare
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i thought I made that work

jaunty scarab
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ok I think I got a solution

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# Empowered Tag
[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = 'card.lua'
pattern = '''card = create_card("Spectral", G.pack_cards, nil, nil, true, true, nil, 'spe')'''
position = 'at'
match_indent = true
payload = '''
card = nil
if self.from_empowered then
    if i == 1 then
        card = create_card("Spectral", G.pack_cards, nil, nil, true, true, 'c_soul', 'spe')
    else
        card = create_card("Spectral", G.pack_cards, nil, nil, true, true, G.P_CENTERS.c_cry_gateway and 'c_cry_gateway' or 'c_soul', 'spe')
    end
else
    card = create_card("Spectral", G.pack_cards, nil, nil, true, true, nil, 'spe')
end
'''
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Lovely patch for create_card made it in and there shouldn't be any duped cards from spectral packs.

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And it works!

vestal seal
cold sandal
jaunty scarab
cold sandal
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Okay having multiple epic tags broke

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It used 4 epic tags (I have overstock plus) and there was a grand total of one epic in the shop

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nothing else

livid temple
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did they update it again

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what is all this talk about these new fancy cards

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back in my day

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we only had +4 mult

remote locust
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old

livid temple
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but seriously what is this stuff people are talking about rn

cold sandal
livid temple
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since when did that tag exist

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bullshit

jaunty scarab
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I ❤️ UI cutting off

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Huh I wonder what Gateway is (clueless)

livid temple
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what is that tag

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do i have dementia or something

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dementia joker - -4 mult when 5 played is scored

oak herald
brave ibex
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It’s pretty recent tbf

livid temple
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no i meanl ike i havent seen it in cryptid before

oak herald
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empowered tag is new

livid temple
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i have never gotten both of these tags to show up

oak herald
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same with epic tag

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it only appears in source code

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so not in an actual release yet

livid temple
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how do i get them

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i desire their prescence

brave ibex
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Source code for now

livid temple
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like the github source code that you can download?

brave ibex
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Yeah

vestal seal
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its still giving the same crash for me. nothing else installed

clear hare
jaunty scarab
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Where is the rest of space going to as well wtf

livid temple
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anyway that empowered tag thing

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looks cool

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imagine grabbing that with like 20 double tags or smth

oak herald
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you need to get a 1 in 3 chance from the gambler tag for the empowered tag

oak herald
umbral dagger
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overall a fan of the new tags tbh, it gives me life as a serial skipper on high stakes

livid temple
umbral dagger
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throwback is nice yeah but I just got used to holding R in early antes lmao, and now with these tags its even nicer, already had one run get carried by an ante 1 gambler tag actually working

livid temple
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okay maybe i shouldnt play source code cryptid it crashes when i use one of the decks

clear hare
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Which one

livid temple
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wormhole

clear hare
livid temple
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no other factors effecting the mod that are not intended

clear hare
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I think I know the issue

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Thank you for pointing it out

livid temple
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k

clear hare
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Might have to do with the exotic pool having a nil value somewhere

livid temple
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weirdly it worked right after i restarded the game

umbral dagger
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Yeah it is funny that it spawns on ante 1, the copium in me though says that the layers of rng to it make it not supremely busted maybe

livid temple
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maybe it has to do with the random exotic joker generated, some of them might crash the game

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ill try rerolling it until i crash again

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well that disconfirms my theory

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i was thinking tenebris might be the issue

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considering joker slots

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but i got it all fine and dandy

clear hare
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G.P_JOKER_RARITY_POOLS["cry_exotic"] = {iterum, universum, exponentia, speculo, redeo, tenebris, effarcire, crustulum, primus}

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I think one of these isn’t defined or something

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Or has like a typo

livid temple
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maybe a typo

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ill check them all

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nope

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oops another error

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got one while trying to reroll a game (holding R) of negative deck

chrome comet
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streamin some more decks if anyone interested

livid temple
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thats cool youtube guy

clear hare
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👀

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I’d recommend not updating Cryptid from the version you have since some of the changes I added yesterday are a bit unstable

livid temple
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yeah i got some crashes

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while we're here math, yk about the epic tag right

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half price epic joker

clear hare
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ye

livid temple
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that got me thinking

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what if there was a tag that negated all negative effects of a tag

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like, completely free epics if you get them both or smth

clear hare
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that feels weak

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maybe more like a voucher

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or tbh as part of a voucher effect since I wouldn’t buy that for $10

livid temple
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hmm yeah

clear hare
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Or a code card?

livid temple
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call it cracked game or smth

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reference to video game piracy and not having you paying money for things

soft night
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://UPDATE does need a rework/replacement... 👀

clear hare
clear hare
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Also the crash you got but I don’t think that is specific to the changes I made

cold sandal
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Hear me out

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What if he (Murphy) plays the Rush Hour challenge

clear hare
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Give it a few streams

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Maybe DoE next

cold sandal
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A casual 415 items in the main sheet rn

brave ibex
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I got a blackout atm so might take a while to join

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As i just said that it’s over lmao

cold sandal
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💀

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I want him to see some of the VFD voucher quips

clear hare
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trying to fix epic tag and somehow I made it even worse

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hey at least these are the two most fitting epics to spawn

cold sandal
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Oh golly gee

clear hare
brave ibex
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new deck leaked

umbral dagger
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damn can't wait for error deck

brave ibex
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play wormhole /s

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maybe making it start with gateway instead wil fix it

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or maybe it's an issue with the enable exotic joker setting

clear hare
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i think it's a bug with exotic joker pool

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like one bad balue

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m

cold sandal
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I just realized

brave ibex
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hmm i can't find where the code that spawns the exotic joker is

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wait no i got it

clear hare
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ok I'm actually rly confused about epic tag bug

clear hare
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part of me is wondering if it's some steamodded issue now

dusty plover
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please i beg you you need to start adding some of these bugs in as optional settings

jaunty scarab
dusty plover
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like you did with CCD

jaunty scarab
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Is there some funky stuff that gets done to turn them into their configs?

brave ibex
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that is there config

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a lot of jokers use the same name for these things

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or something

weak burrow
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@clear hare if you're still at the stream ping me when he actually starts playing balatro

clear hare
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ok progress...

remote locust
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wh

dusty plover
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they're cold

brave ibex
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does rare tag have the same issues

clear hare
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no

dusty plover
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they're preserving warmth

clear hare
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even tho I copied that

brave ibex
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huh

remote locust
brave ibex
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maybe a steamodded issue then

clear hare
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maybe I should use store_joker_modify context instead to fully replace the card...

lime inlet
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im gonna retry installing this mod and see if it finally works

remote locust
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the mod has worked for a while

lime inlet
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i haven't played this mod to the point where EVERYTHING is either updated or crashing the game due to not being updated

brave ibex
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yeah gotta do everything

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i think there's lovely 0.5.0, recent steamodded, talisman and cryptid that got updated

clear hare
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nope
didn't work

brave ibex
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i don't think so

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as ong as it's 0.5.0 i think

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whatever the one with 5 was

remote locust
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is that a new version?

brave ibex
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probbly not

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but mjiojio was away for a while so yknow

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might as well check

violet egret
cold sandal
oblique urchin
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Is there any good mod for dealing with huge numbers of jokers? Like maybe adding multiple pages or even stacking duplicates

brave ibex
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no

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maybe one day

oblique urchin
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I also wonder if you could make them stack in such a way that my game wouldn’t crash when I try to replicate a messily 100k percolators

remote locust
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just had an idea, what if there was a joker which removed all "must have room" restrictions from jokers and consumables.

lime inlet
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my dumbass thought of the infinite ikea

clear hare
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@weak burrow he's starting around now, have to brb so can't check

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sob joke gaming

lime inlet
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what lovely should i have?

clear hare
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Latest

brave ibex
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i want to see his reaction when he realized it spawns when anything happens

lime inlet
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i have no idea what's wrong

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probably cause i haven't played in a while

clear hare
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uh oh

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ok I think I have tag voucher thingy working better now

lime inlet
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i just scrolled for 2 minutes straight to find a crash log so i can match my stuff

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only differences were steamodded (i have 712a) and lovely (i have beta 6)

clear hare
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maybe install folder is wrong?

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should be Mods/Cryptid/lovely*

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for the lovely patches

jaunty scarab
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Murphy ignoring The Clock is one hell of a chad move xdd

clear hare
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who cares about clock when you have m

lime inlet
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yea lovely is in cryptid with all the files n stuff

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probably its the name

clear hare
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ok I'm going to try updating steamodded myself then

lime inlet
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are all these names good

clear hare
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ye

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lovely-injector does not need to be there

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oh wait before I update let me check if exotic pool is working

lime inlet
clear hare
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the folder

lime inlet
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right lol

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so delete it?

clear hare
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you can but it shouldn't matter

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ok exotic pool is fine for me

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idk why someone got a crash

lime inlet
clear hare
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it looks like tag atlas isn't working

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check if tag atlas is in your atlas folder

lime inlet
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where's that lol

clear hare
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Cryptid/assets/1x/tag_cry

lime inlet
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found it

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this gud

clear hare
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if it doesn't appear in 2x that might also be an issue

lime inlet
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same thing

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in 2x

clear hare
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yeah then idk

lime inlet
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maybe its the balatro itself idk

clear hare
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ok now that we fixed bugs time to do things

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actually nah I'm just gonna watch murph

granite ibex
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how is canvas only epic?

cold sandal
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Because it only has one layer for art

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Epic was also made because of canvas

clear hare
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Effect is too strong but at this point yolo

celest tinsel
granite ibex
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i understand that

clear hare
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It’s much stronger than we thought too

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But at this point it’s so infamous that I don’t want to make it exotic or nerf it

remote locust
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is Double Scal supposed to work on Tarot Merchant

clear hare
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The voucher?

remote locust
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i mean Fortune Teller

clear hare
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Or do you mean cartomancer

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Oh

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Yeah it should

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Wait actually

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I think I decided not to do it on ones that scale per existing value

granite ibex
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would the run currently on stream reach the max omeganum value?

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i'm assuming not

clear hare
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So jokers like that and blue joker, bull, etc.

clear hare
granite ibex
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makes sense

clear hare
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Any Cryptid run would reach triple-e max

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But yeah I think today is a good day to work on Talisman

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Will see how hard it is but going to fix Waluigi and merge OmegaNum with base Talisman

remote locust
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tetration is gonna be insane

cold sandal
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Rip Murphy (He's about to use Canvas + Perkeo)

jaunty scarab
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TREE() mult gonna be peak

remote locust
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sadly that is non-calculable

lime inlet
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i wanna test someone's mod files so i can see if balatro itself is the reason

brave ibex
jaunty scarab
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What the hell happened to the voucher redeem UI

clear hare
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yes

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oh yeah I definitely need to make Universum use big num

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Because that really shouldnt be infinity

lime inlet
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it crashed on the spot 😭

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(when i started new run)

cold sandal
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Unzip

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Put the individual mods in the mod folder

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Incase you didn't do that

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Now that he's seen perkeo canvas

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Next is Speculo Canvas

lime inlet
jaunty scarab
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WHAT THE HELL

lime inlet
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my game must super duper fucked

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wth

clear hare
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Do you have old steamodded installed too or smthn

lime inlet
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i took @cold sandal mod folder and verfied ma game

cold sandal
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Just noticed

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You're on a different lovely version than I am

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Thats the one im on

lime inlet
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crashed again when going on new run

cold sandal
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What deck are you trying to use just curious

lime inlet
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im praying this works(just verified game AGAIN)

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fuck

clear hare
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Maybe just uninstall reinstall everything again

lime inlet
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balatro itself?

clear hare
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All mod stuff

rough violet
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added question marks to fit with the conspiracy theme

jaunty scarab
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Do we think that Murphy's ERROR jokers can proc yet?

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I wanna see if I can bait him into selling one

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😈

rough violet
jaunty scarab
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Ok nah there's no way he's going to need to sell anything at this point

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WAIT SOMEONE ELSE IS MAKING HIM LETS GOOOO

cold sandal
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Math is doing it

jaunty scarab
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Thank you Math

remote locust
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you're welcome /j

clear hare
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wrong math

weak burrow
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Well to no one's surprise doe got him inf and a crash

lime inlet
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i just crashed my entire laptop

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yay

weak burrow
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Sounds like you're also having fun

lime inlet
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so from what i understand: everything is wrong with balatro

weak burrow
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Sounds like the description for Cryptid tbh

lime inlet
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cryptid but no balatro :(

jaunty scarab
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balatro but no cryptid 😦

clear hare
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Cryptidless ante 39??

scenic pumice
lime inlet
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im losing hope

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in this

brave ibex
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maybe just delete everything and reinstall everything back

lime inlet
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i already uninstalled and reinstalled balatro itself

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do i gotta remove the save files too?

brave ibex
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maybe reinstall all the mods

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after deleting them

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idk

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maybe it's joever

lime inlet
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HOLY FUCK

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IT'S NOT JOEVER

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I LOVE DOING RANDOM SHIT AND IT WORKS

brave ibex
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gg

lime inlet
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hold up i gotta stop celebrating early

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i already got humbled twice

jaunty scarab
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I wanna know what the dump files look like just to try to understand how your game got this bricked 😭

lime inlet
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i literally just uninstall and reinstalled again along with deleting EVERYTHING relating to balatro then reinstalling everything

weak burrow
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Uninstall system32 that always works for me

chrome comet
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Lol that was a ton of fun once again.

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I didn't expect to top the first one but that was chaos in the best way lol

raven wedge
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m

deep kite
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m

clear hare
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m

cold sandal
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m

dusty plover
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m

chrome comet
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m

rough violet
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m

lilac shuttle
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m

cold sandal
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poll_question_text

How many Jokers will Cryptid have compared to Balatro {Base Game} when Cryptid reaches 1.0.0 {Take a guess}

victor_answer_votes

7

total_votes

19

victor_answer_id

3

victor_answer_text

~1.5x {225 Jokers}

victor_answer_emoji_name

⬆️

jaunty scarab
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I'm the only person who voted 2.5X 😭

cold sandal
clear hare
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true

dusty plover
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W

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or should i say

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m

raven wedge
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upside down M

clear hare
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guess what

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it wasn't waluigi that was slowing the animations

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it was universum

chrome comet
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😮

teal plover
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💀

clear hare
#

I made a fancy debugger a while ago to show queued animations

#

so I just enabled that and went for an inf build to test out omeganum talisman

#

it's cool tho, especially with DebugPlus's UI that lets you see the console in-game

teal plover
#

math, i have a concern with the cat tag

#

it seems like a good way to kill one's FPS under the correct conditions

clear hare
#

this would be true of many tags though

teal plover
#

yes, but the difference is that the cat tags will never go away

clear hare
#

I could add a check for it to nope itself if there's 10 or more tags

#

or like 50 or something, to reduce lag

teal plover
#

i mean really, just limiting it to 1 would be nice

clear hare
#

because it's still funny to see them clogging the screen

teal plover
#

then limit it to as many as the game can show before it starts pressing the tags together

#

maybe also add a feature where clicking it can manually remove it as well

soft night
#

idea

#

you rub your mouse over the tag for a second

#

it purrs and it goes away

clear hare
#

yo this might be a world first

#

inf build without canvas or white hole

#

use chads instead

jaunty scarab
#

The day that Hanging Chad can do this will be glorious

clear hare
#

anyway I'll test out and create the number formatting up to the new limit (e10##1000 = 10 ^(1000) 10) later
-# notation used is Hyper-E notation but with a lowercase e

lime inlet
#

dang can't find the fuck ton of m jonklers :(

feral silo
#

Would it even be useful to report crashes I encounter in the main branch?

lime inlet
#

only the ones that aren't really supposed to happen, like ever

clear hare
#

in general it's good

#

there's a difference between crashing from overloading the game versus crashes from a bug

feral silo
#

Yeah, I'm definitely not reporting the time I made 1000 Jokers, and the process ballooned to 128 gigs. 🙂

#

I get a very consistent crash when mousing over Typhoon. Even in Collection.

soft night
jaunty scarab
#

WHAT IN THE WORLD

soft night
clear hare
#

The game triggered something like SUAS

#

but idk why it didn’t make you lose

#

Maybe because of {calculated=true} return values?

severe jetty
#

what if now hear me out there was an exotic joker thats called crash test joker with its art being the balatro crash screen and all it does is spawn an eternal pinned canvas and speculo at the leftmost side of your joker slots then self destructs

clear hare
#

The CRASH code card should do something creative like that

#

Instead of immediately popping up an error screen

brave ibex
#

insane wormhole seed

clear hare
#

:O

jaunty scarab
brave ibex
#

start with glitched primus at ^6 and neon M for econ +Neg Jolly at ante 11ish

clear hare
#

For a computer virus

brave ibex
#

hammerspace gives a cryptid so you go infinite wit it and steel (mime also lmao)

clear hare
#

:O

#

Imagine Cryptid Baron Mime kings

#

Who even needs steel anymore

brave ibex
#

id rather have steel then use up a joker slot, those are kinda valuable

jaunty scarab
#

One of them could be spawning tons of Orbital tags with nil poker hands

#

The amount is arbitrary, just enough to strike fear

brave ibex
lime inlet
brave ibex
#

gg

#

you won

lime inlet
#

if only talisman skipped animations for gaining hands and discards

jaunty scarab
# jaunty scarab There could just be a list of available ways to crash from that it picks.

Current draft ideas for this:

  • Speculo/Canvas shenanigans
  • Orbitals tag generated without a set blind
  • Spawns a Misprint joker that had it’s max set high enough to cause stack overflow when hovering (extra: have it drawn with a shiny shader to bait people into hovering over it thinking it’s an exclusive Edition, and/or set a countdown until the card is forced to display)
  • Immediately open a Booster pack (or spawn a tag, either works) with 1e300 possible card options.
#

Playing around with Misprint Deck with extreme number misprinting has its perks.

#

More ideas on getting stack overflow or some other funny error, the better.

severe jetty
#

tirggers a cryptid with its variable set to stack overflow

#

on a random card obvi

#

i feel like one should be just super underwelming and cause the game to alt f4

lime inlet
#

my egg's a little expensive i know

livid temple
#

i was just curious about a tag in the mod

#

i was wondering how exactly you would make sure a joker is set to half price when it appears

livid temple
#

nvm

#

i wonder if anyone can spot it

summer cargo
#

why he ourple

livid temple
#

i decided to try and make a new cryptid tag

#

and despite my braindead coding knowledge i somehow made a fully working one

echo jacinth
#

why ourple and not prange

livid temple
#

this is what it is

upper veldt
#

i should play this mod before judging it methinks

#

what a great first impression huh

#

that's usually +10 on the final hand

severe jetty
#

Wait so I’m confused

#

Does the blank deck actually do nothing?

livid temple
#

yep

severe jetty
#

Lmao

livid temple
#

they should make it so that you have to complete blank deck to unlock antimatter deck

#

like the vouchers

severe jetty
#

Agreed

#

Have to head blank deck 10 times

#

Beat not head

#

Idk tho unlocking something in cryptid feels wrong for some reason

livid temple
severe jetty
#

I love it

#

I’m super excited for the next update after seems all the things y’all have been working on

livid temple
#

im not a dev

severe jetty
#

Feed me
More ways to break everything

livid temple
#

i just made this myself

severe jetty
#

Oh shit

#

That makes it more impressive tbh

livid temple
#

its not really

#

i copied the epic tag code

#

i changed the values to make it free instead of half

#

and thats really about it

severe jetty
#

Listen man not everyone knows how to copy paste

#

That’s some high level computer wizardry

#

You in that code ponderin and shit

upper veldt
#

oh god

#

what have I done

#

ONE OF THEM IS THE SOUL

livid temple
#

or use them to destroy them but get the effect

upper veldt
#

one of them is undiscovered

livid temple
#

also, use the one that has a weird fuzzy sticthed outline

#

use it to get an exotic joker

#

its the most powerful rarity

upper veldt
#

oh what

livid temple
#

this is the card

#

it has like stitch lines

upper veldt
#

oh

livid temple
#

you use it to get one of those really rare powerful jokers

#

rarer than legendary

#

so its like the next best thing from soul

upper veldt
#

so what's the catch

livid temple
#

it destroys all other jokers

#

but i feel like you HAVE to take it even despite that

#

like one of them gives you infinite free rerolls

#

and rerolling gives the infinite free reroll joker scaling chips

#

so its infinite score

upper veldt
#

but i like my jokers

livid temple
#

well you dont have to use it

#

if you really dont want the super cool rarity

upper veldt
#

the "super cool rarity" makes the run end immediately

#

it loses all uniqueness and becomes "build around this joker" which i'm sure you guys have done to death

#

what's the point continuing after that

livid temple
#

well almost all of them allow you to instantly build up new jokers

#

its really not much of a downside if your offer is, +25 joker slots and free 25$ every round or retriggering every single card for 2x each retrigger

#

or 2x the mult and chips for hand level ups

upper veldt
#

that's not the problem I have with it

#

that joker is going to steal the show anyway regardless what you do

lofty surge
lime inlet
#

i should probably stop playing antimatter runs and destroying my game

#

im 99% sure the reason my game was screwed trying to make cryptid work again was because i legitimately fucked up the files in my hundreds of crashes

upper veldt
weak burrow
#

let me ask

#

when you play what deck do you play

lime inlet
#

this mod is so busted in many ways

upper veldt
#

yellow deck

#

i main yellow deck

weak burrow
#

so if you think its not that bad play antimatter deck

#

youll realize it is indeed that bad

#

and thats the point of this mod

lime inlet
#

antimatter allows you to pull some crazy shit

upper veldt
#

yeah that sucked

#

i'm gonna avoid this

weak burrow
#

we have a joker that scales exponential mult

#

cant get more broken than that

lime inlet
#

i mean...

weak burrow
#

shhh

#

im tired of all the tree to the power of tree people

#

boring

#

exponentia is not boring

lime inlet
#

should i attempt it?

weak burrow
#

seems worth

lime inlet
#

praying my graphics card doesn't overflow

weak burrow
#

pc about to explode

lime inlet
#

oh right double scale

#

forgot to remove that

#

try again

#

completely worth

weak burrow
#

nice ante

lime inlet
#

is it just me or that the poker hand score is still capped at naneninf which turns the score into Infinity even tho it should be lower

upper pendant
green cove
livid temple
weak burrow
#

if you dont want to do that im pretty sure you can just use the unlock all button

#

unless youre trying to do an actual playthrough of cryptid

green cove
#

And clearing gold stake with no deck benefits isn't that impossible, I've had multiple runs on anaglyph (gold sticker grind) where I never got to use the skip tags, or their impact wasn't that meaningful

oak herald
#

i think the unlock reqiurement is fine tbh

umbral dagger
#

Yeah gold on blank is pretty fair, anaglyph is basically blank if you don't get good skip tags, and its easier than something like black deck anyway kekw

oak herald
#

granted worst comes to worst in anaglyph, youy can just take some dummy econ tag to get some value

silver cobalt
#

Just got a genius idea

#

Pack packs

#

A pack with packs in it

#

Could also be terrible but idk

#

Just realized that astral is uhhhh 10x as rare as mosaic

#

And you really do not see mosaic very often in the slightest

#

I think it should maybe be made a little more common

#

Weight of 1 not 0.3

true harness
#

astral is Exponentia without scaling balatrojoker

silver cobalt
#

That honestly isnt very cracked tho

true harness
#

true ngl

queen jungle
#

Editions have a flat 4% chance to spawn anyway, adding more is just making the chances of specific ones even worse. I think it’s much more ideal to design other ways to apply editions rather than relying on them spawning naturally

silver cobalt
#

Only goes crazy once you have a ton of mult already

silver cobalt
true harness
#

modify Aura and WoF to be able to apply those editions Ig

silver cobalt
#

Also Eclipse Deck

queen jungle
#

I do not know what any of those decks are

silver cobalt
#

Decks that should exist

#

But dont

#

We need enhancment edition and seal deck for all of cryptids enhancements editions and seals

#

Oh wait that also means decks for azure seal and (when it gets made) green seal

umbral dagger
#

I don't think I've ever seen mosaic or astral editions naturally yet, glitched and oversaturated I've seen quite a bit tho

queen jungle
#

But I was meaning alternative ways to obtain them during normal gameplay, such as tarots and spectrals. I know that continues to dilute the pools but it does offer alternative methods that can be fine tuned as an entire system

silver cobalt
#

Edition code cards?

#

Idk ://OVERRIDE FOIL?

#

Just changes the edition on the selected card or joker to whatever edition is on the code card

#

How the hell does the recent suggestion box already have 106 rows

deep kite
#

Wheel of Fortune 2: let's go gambling for new editions

brave ibex
#

you have the option to disable things you don’t want at leasy ¯_(ツ)_/¯

clear hare
true harness
#

we need ultra fast endless scaling balatrojoker

weak burrow
#

idk if this has any different info but i just decided it might be best to copy what lovely has logged

clear hare
versed bay
#

god we really need a real modloader for this game

#

manual updates are agony

clear hare
#

Auto updates and in-game mod downloads in Steamodded would be a godsend

remote locust
#

eeeh

#

but like would someone verify that a new mod version isn't a virus first

granite ibex
clear hare
#

I mean that’s just an issue in general

clear hare
remote locust
clear hare
#

Yeah it makes sense for mods to be manual updates

#

Modloader is on a GitHub with multiple contributors which makes it much harder for malware to make it through

#

Also with that, a Safe Mode in case the game crashes on startup (maybe auto triggered after 2 or 3 consecutive crashes without starting a run?)

weak burrow
#

its a thing in the btd6 modloader i know that

#

i mean i did load into the run

#

it was when the spectral pack opened

#

i didnt even click anything

weak burrow
#

is the save bricked or something else?

umbral dagger
#

Even just in-game downloads/updates on its own would be pretty huge, right now I have to like search every mod I actively use every few days or so and I just update them all in bulk

green cove
#

Since they changed stuff Idk

clear hare
remote locust
#

Talisman joker

versed bay
#

See this is funny to read but is also kinda the least interesting one to play

remote locust
#

it also is better that almost every joker currently in Cryptid

#

if not literally every joker inc ryptid

clear hare
#

yeah this is just made for testing obviously

versed bay
#

Ah fair enough

versed bay
remote locust
#

better at gaining score

versed bay
#

Arguably crustulum is unshakably number 1 because infinite rerolls gets you anything else

#

Its just a matter of patience

versed bay
#

No?

remote locust
#

eventually the number will become large enough the increment is NOT accounted for and your chips are stuck at a manimum value

versed bay
#

Oh nah it’s not about the chips

#

It’s that crustulum is also infinite money and jokers

remote locust
#

crustulum itself isn't getting you score

#

if you buy another joker with infinite rerolls you are using a different joker to get score

clear hare
remote locust
#

so close

raven wedge
#

add a linebreak

#

pls

upper veldt
#

i wish i could get glitched and oversaturated without the rest of cryptid

upper veldt
#

oh fr

clear hare
#

it's in Misc so you can disable everything else

#

and if you rly want you can just delete everything in Misc except glitched and oversaturated

upper veldt
#

how exactly do I disable things

green cove
#

Settings - spectral pack

upper veldt
#

oh there's an ingame menu for it? that's neat

clear hare
#

ye

upper veldt
#

thought i'd have to go into the lua file or smthn

clear hare
#

I roped everything that's small in misc so if you want just those editions you can go into the lua file and fine-tune that

upper veldt
#

i haven't seen the other cryptid editions what do they do

clear hare
#

Xchips and ^Mult

upper veldt
#

ah

clear hare
upper veldt
#

i'll probably just get rid of the ^mult that feels like too much

remote locust
#

^^Mult:

green cove
#

It's only 1.1 so it's pretty moderate

remote locust
green cove
#

I mean on playing cards it's crazy

remote locust
#

not when you have ee300 mult

#

^1.1 is insane

green cove
#

They don't want anything cryptid related tho

#

Only editions

remote locust
#

eh, still

#

it's pretty good

upper veldt
#

do things break if i set a weight value to 0

remote locust
#

probably not

upper veldt
#

i'll find out

remote locust
#

unless the total wieght is 0

upper veldt
#

total weight?

remote locust
#

sum of all wieghts for that pool

upper veldt
#

oh

#

no the total isn't 0

#

i just set the weight on astral to 0 so it shouldn't appear

#

it's pretty cool that you can pick and choose what you want enabled

brave ibex
#

yeah

#

the high power level isn't for everyone tbh

clear hare
#

ye

brave ibex
#

i think the misc jokers aren't too bad though imo

clear hare
#

I like that feature especially because cryptid adds a lot

upper veldt
#

i also like the spectrals

clear hare
#

like when code cards are added (which are relatively balanced tbh) that might be something you want without the rest of cryptid

upper veldt
#

oh also while i'm here

#

the editions seem to go on planet cards but they're not doing anything

brave ibex
#

yeah they don't do anything when used

#

only when held in hand

upper veldt
#

that's a shame

brave ibex
#

like normal foil/holo etc

remote locust
brave ibex
#

like editioned jokers

#

they function the same way I think

remote locust
#

i wouldn't call the consumable slots your hand

brave ibex
#

oh whoops

#

mb

#

💀

clear hare
#

number got so big I had to put a new symbol in here

remote locust
#

explanation?

clear hare
#

e308#100 is eeeeeee....eeeee308 with 100 e's

remote locust
#

Is this a format you made up?

clear hare
#

no

#

it's hyper-e notation

remote locust
#

ah

#

What about (10^^)

loud harness
#

INFO - [G] 2024-07-14 01:56:37 :: ERROR :: StackTrace :: Oops! The game crashed
main.lua:7907: attempt to index global 'Big' (a nil value)

Is this Talisman's problem?

clear hare
#

ye

clear hare
#

and then once there's too many ## effectively shows the number of arrows

#

it's repeated #

#

and that covers OmegaNum

loud harness
#

I download the source code of Talisman, is it wrong?

clear hare
#

I'm working on it actively so it's a bit unstable

weak burrow
remote locust
#

and some people need more power

clear hare
#

let's see if this works

#

wait my bad that's too small

remote locust
#

only 2 ^^s

jaunty scarab
#

HUH

#

WDYM TOO SMALL

remote locust
#

It should be larger

#

The value in the joker and the one in the score counter are different

clear hare
#

yeah I did tetration instead of pentation

remote locust
#

rookie mistake

#

Tetrational scaling getting scared

clear hare
#

here we go

granite ibex
#

tetrahedron jimbo

#

no relation to the effect other than tetr-

remote locust
#

We’ve opened Pandora’s Box

granite ibex
#

graham's joker

#

set mult to G_{mult}

oak herald
remote locust
#

Scaling where the order of the operation rises each ante

upper veldt
#

mfw score is reduced

raven wedge
#

shoulda seen negative mult

weak burrow
#

@clear hare idk if its a bug but shouldnt the eclipse tarot explain what an echo card does? cuz it doesnt

green cove
#

It does in latest

#

Still kind of a wack fix to keep old steamodded compatibility

silver cobalt
#

Info queue is the bane if my existence

green cove
#

It took a while to figure it out yeah

#

I think shaders are worse tho

jaunty scarab
#

Both seem pretty manageable

green cove
#

Once you know yeah

silver cobalt
jaunty scarab
#

Although needing to do injects into draw functions every time for any shaders is getting annoying.

silver cobalt
#

Shaders are just copy base game shader and fiddle with the values until it looks cool

jaunty scarab
#

At least D6 Sides are easy

silver cobalt
#

The literal only thing i did with astral is mess with the final hsl values

green cove
#

Well if you just copy base game shaders... It's easy lol

silver cobalt
#

I still have no clue how we are gonna make curses

#

How do you add a whole new layer of enhancements?

weak burrow
green cove
#

Or what do you inject

silver cobalt
#

why are we arguing about the stupidest thing when its ui no question

#

Ui is absolute hell

#

The ui code tastes great with pasta sauce and is very twirlable with a fork

green cove
jaunty scarab
#

Also, the draw function itself is delicious and served with red sauce and a fork

#

With the if statement block that all mods need to circumvent for any custom enhancements

green cove
jaunty scarab
#

xdd

weak burrow
#

btw to make sure i aint tripping

#

double scale doesnt work with canvas right?

#

so it doesnt work putting it on the left

clear hare
#

Ye

#

It’s like four fingers

#

anyway back to breaking the game

weak burrow
#

i was trying to get highest exponentia and my game just hard crashed

#

i think using a cryptid to get 400 cards in my deck probably wasnt a smart idea

clear hare
#

oh yeah scoring inf doesn't win again

#

whatever if you're able to get that you don't deserve to win anymore balatrojoker

green cove
weak burrow
#

i mean with omega num it should be impossible

green cove
#

Rude

weak burrow
#

atleast i hope so

clear hare
#

not when someone adds hyperoperational mult

weak burrow
#

dont start making stupid jokers that will allow omeganum to be broken

clear hare
#

i'm not, but jenwalter definitely will

green cove
clear hare
#

something tells me I did not score 0

remote locust
#

ExpantaNum here we come

weak burrow
#

i held r cuz i was trying to delete cards from my deck with debugplus and almost reset my entire run

#

luckily i was able to react and pause fast enough to cancel that

clear hare
#

expanta num for +G64 mult

remote locust
#

There should be a score limit of 10 option

weak burrow
#

since cryptid uses bignum does that mean exponentia also uses bignum?

#

i wonder since that will tell me how long im gonna have to do this for

clear hare
#

ye

weak burrow
#

whats this number someone count for me

#

im still working on it

#

only 14 rounds so far

brave ibex
#

678,431,232,805.1

weak burrow
#

so almost 700 bil

#

this is gonna take forever jesus

subtle nova
weak burrow
#

btw i forgot to ask

#

can someone tell me whats the actual effect of sob?

#

put it in spoiler tag

subtle nova
#

||I do not know||

scenic pumice
oak herald
weak burrow
#

finally someone who doesnt deserve a BOI

clear hare
#

something feels a bit wrong with the arrow function

weak burrow
#

seems normal to me

clear hare
#

this is what omeganum returns

clear hare
#

most notably it would be a ##24 in the end with how I formatted it

oak herald
clear hare
#

also instead of capping it at {1000} I feel like letting people crash the game if they go too far

#

like you really should not go here, at this point it causes noticable lag

weak burrow
#

is the 1000 inside an artificial limit you placed or an omeganum limit?

remote locust
#

OmegaNum limit

green cove
#

54 fps balatrojoker balatrojoker

weak burrow
#

i mean im currently playing with a freeze every time i play a hand

oak herald
#

like "the game can't handle these numbers"

weak burrow
#

so 54 fps isnt bad

silver cobalt
weak burrow
#

this is my run xd

#

hardest part was thinning the deck to only astral

jagged garden
#

urple

silver cobalt
#

Omg you actually got a natural astral

weak burrow
#

i mean with crust it was just alot of rerolling

silver cobalt
#

I have never seen someone get an astral naturally

silver cobalt
weak burrow
#

i had an astral joker which i sold

#

i just need to optimize for lag at this point

silver cobalt
#

Why are they all debuffed

weak burrow
#

im just trying to reduce jokers to reduce lag

green cove
#

It's echo

weak burrow
silver cobalt
#

Lol

#

Echo looks identical to debuffing on astral

#

Or at least pretty close

weak burrow
#

im giving this run until round 35 i cba anymore

#

we need a joker to raise chances for rare editions

#

poly astral echo and all the good ones

silver cobalt
#

Literally this

#

Only in recent suggestion box though

weak burrow
#

@ math add this

clear hare
#

lmao

#

no astral would swap with normal edition

jagged garden
#

Oh lmao that sucks 😅

silver cobalt
#

Thats too cracked

#

Like exotic cracked

#

Swapping with foil feels better

#

But if you want, it could swap with base

weak burrow
#

and another hard crash

silver cobalt
#

Fun

weak burrow
#

i just need to go to like 15-18 jokers

#

thats the limit

#

i guess i could sell crust since i have more money than i could spend

#

this is totally a normal amount

#

alright im down to 18 jokers and its running well enough

clear hare
#

ok I think I figured out the weirdness

weak burrow
#

ok this is round 35 exponentia someone help me here cuz i cba

#

math how hard would it be to add a comma option to values?

clear hare
#

not too bad but it really should be like a steamodded thing

weak burrow
#

make a pr for them

silver cobalt
#

Which is uhhhhh

weak burrow
#

13 digits means 9.8 tril