what might be a good idea is to make it selectable in all cases but not playable without infinite deck
#Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]
clear hare
snow rivet
That'd be a good compromise.
clear hare
tried fixing it but the info queue stuff is a steamodded bug I think
so it'll just have to wait until that gets fix
clear hare
oh I see why
was changing it to be misprintable and flipped the check
should be fixed (haven't checked)
brave ibex
a lot the M stack code could benefit from a complete redo tbh cause I still see a lot of artifacts from when it was hardcoded
clear hare
yeah I changed 1/2 to work with loc_vars too
brave ibex
might need it's rarity tweaked too since it was (somewhat) balanced around that cap but i'll have to playtest a bit more
clear hare
brave ibex
blessed
brave ibex
I think virgo is my favourite this update visually speaking
I think my top 3 are Virgo Notebook and kidnapping
brave ibex
oh I also broke this one
Oh my
brave ibex
Maybe a return true was removed by accident when uncapping?
clear hare
oh blame me for that
yeah I forgot event manager needs that
and I saw calculate=true in there so I thought that was wrong
fixing now
brave ibex
oh that's my bad
clear hare
also I'm getting taunted by 2D
brave ibex
i wonder if anyone will know what Loopy is referencing hehe
maybe i'll wake up to it since i'm gonna go to sleep
excited to see what people will do with the more mechanically interesting jokers
clear hare
...
brave ibex
🫡
jaunty scarab
Just to inquire, how exactly does the config page and config file for Cryptid work?
I've been developing an addition to Steamodded that added more pages to the mod buttons and the only one missing is a "Config" page.
(At least when it comes to current ideas)
junior river
what if misprint could go to the negatives
gray elm
allow
pulsar moss
fs?
gray elm
yea idk why it happened recently, must be some updates
junior river
what if misprint could go to the negatives
...oops
jokerless round 1 infinity score
tiny oops
green cove
chadding
snow rivet
*maniacal laugh*
livid temple
\*maniacal laugh*
junior river
nothing wrong here
snow rivet
Don't redeem Hieroglyph while its value isn't a whole number. The game doesn't like fractional ante.
Thankfully continuing from the last shop worked with no issues.
green cove
math isn't mathing
livid temple
wtf
im using wee fibbonachi
and it upgraded
and the upgrade anim happened on the other side of the screen
nowhere near the joker
green cove
ngl I've been trying to do a cool idea I had - idol run with infinity deck, but in 3 endless runs I've seen 0 idols 😭 feels like it doesn't exist in this mod
raven wedge
sorry i eated it
karmic bough
8*
hasty rose
can someone give the link to the mod?
raven wedge
check the pins
hasty rose
Oh I'm stoopid thx
hasty rose
how can I fix that?
oak herald
when this mod gets a full release its gonna be the streamer mod
also whens the glitched deck
i think that would be funny
silver cobalt
also whens the glitched deck
i think that would be funny
Misprint deck
brave ibex
and the upgrade anim happened on the other side of the screen
Get newest source code
That should’ve been fixed a while ago
oak herald
Misprint deck
wait
livid temple
Get newest source code
well id rather stick to teh more stable release
brave ibex
That’s fair, although there should be a newer release very soon
Lmk if you find any other weird display errors like that though since it’s an easy fix
Except m cause That one was also fixed iirc
clear hare
Lovely is sometimes flagged by antiviruses, just tell windows to allow it
soft night
idea: if it hasnt already been implemented, Glitched edition cards should further randomize the randomized value from Misprint Deck
either that or glitch the misprint magnification itself
remote locust
200 extra mult
summer cargo
the tax:
umbral dagger
the psychic in question rapidly approaching your location:
remote locust
Bonus Blind + Perkeo:
teal plover
me:
vestal seal
Bonus Blind + Perkeo:
that is a very funny combination
remote locust
Literally Cryptid levels of non-balance
snow rivet
Someone put a Joker in the anything else section of the recent suggestion box. Should I move it to be with the Jokers? If so, which rarity? They didn't specify, instead electing to specify that it's a XMult Joker...
brave ibex
I’ll deal with it later
snow rivet
Okay.
clear hare
will push out the next major release tonight if no bugs are found
brave ibex
i''ve had issues with spacing of cards
like when a hand is played
and consumables going off center when used
but i'm not sure if cryptid is causing that
snow rivet
I've only had that problem while using the Misprint Deck, so I figured it was something to do with the randomized numbers of consumables messing with the spacing.
clear hare
I haven’t caught that one in the wild yet so 🤷♂️
oak herald
m
opal prairie
where the psychic going
remote locust
Away from these shenanigans
oak herald
daggers are funny
echo jacinth
oh yeah
you've heard of xchips and xmult now get ready for x$
what's next, xhands? xdiscards? xante? xhandsize?
remote locust
You can retrigger cards, and jokers. But what about retriggering the entire scoring process.
celest tinsel
whats astral from?
celest tinsel
ah
spare cape
i like how all the m jokers dont seem to work, unless specifically my stuff is broke, i guess thats just a deal of waiting for patches and stuff
brave ibex
you might need to update steamodded and talisman just in case
and then just wait until the release that's planned for tonight
or download the source code
spare cape
or download the source code
i did download source, but ill still update and download after the release
clear hare
Maybe update Steamodded?
pulsar moss
Is anybody else getting a hacktool:win32/agent!mtv virus found in the lovely version DLL?
upper pendant
the hell happened with cryptid did yall just rewrite the whole thing?
cold sandal
m happened to cryptid
clear hare
the hell happened with cryptid did yall just rewrite the whole thing?
M Invasion
Major update coming tonight
pulsar moss
JS making sure
lime inlet
Major update coming tonight
Major indeed
pulsar moss
Woohooo
clear hare
lmao I thought that was artwork of The Trick (the deleted part)
anyway going to playtest a bit more then release
clear hare
idea: if it hasnt already been implemented, Glitched edition cards should *furth...
also I believe these do stack, might be wrong
however the distribution will be a bit different because... math
you basically have to get 10x and then 10x for an extreme outcome
brave ibex
i think they override each other
clear hare
oh yep, they do
brave ibex
it's one of the two
brave ibex
might be a similar thing with oversaturation also
clear hare
so on misprint deck oversat would do 0.2-2 and glitched would do 0.01-100
with the fix
brave ibex
gambling addiction will pay off
clear hare
also I will make oversaturated a bit more common
I had it as rarer than polychrome since it's X2 everything but in a lot of cases it hurts
so I'll probably make it slightly more common than that
yeah this is something not possible if my code wasn't working
scenic pumice
sorry i took so long i was making that art in real time
clear hare
wait actually... I think the stacking already applied before
because I had some weird check
but this is better than that weird check
actually I think it's just weird things happening with debug mode edition cycling
that wouldn't be likely to happen in-game
ehh I'll be doing a test run on antimatter at some point anyway
subtle nova
actually I think it's just weird things happening with debug mode edition cyclin...
can confirm removing negative doesn't remove the extra joker/consumeable slot
clear hare
can confirm removing negative doesn't remove the extra joker/consumeable slot
yeah ik abt that
could also mean the weird behavior of oversat/glitched is because of debug mode too
subtle nova
¯_(ツ)_/¯
lime inlet
Idk why but I wanna see more jokers like pareidolia that is named after random phenomena
lime inlet
Hemispatial Neglect:
Left side of held hand is neither rank/suit
Right side of held hand is every rank/suit
clear hare
alright now for an antimatter run
these have echo cards even though echo deck doesn't exist
whatever
OP as always
casual e103
i got a negative chad
with 17
subtle nova
tbh that edition makes it where you might want to make a decision between it or negative for a joker
lime inlet
jonkler idea
Makes rarer jokers more common but more expensive
clear hare
fits perfectly here
subtle nova
ah yes, x47 mult, totally not busted
brave ibex
silly little guy
clear hare
rocket if it was priced realistically
remote locust
How would one price a jester
lime inlet
if funny
summer cargo
ok i had an idea but it would take a lot more effort than referencing maximized so i'mm put this here with a 🤔
i don't think you can set card ID to more than one thing at once so this would probably require patching every card ID check to add an "... or owns_primordium"
jaunty scarab
There is currently in development a way to have a card with multiple ranks for Steamodded.
Base game you can't
Most you can do is have functions that check for specific rank always return true
summer cargo
i was hoping it would be a bit simpler since i remember some instances of maximised still treating cards as theor original rank
clear hare
yeah might need to wait on that unfortunately
brave ibex
i was hoping it would be a bit simpler since i remember some instances of maximi...
i don't think maximized does that
all instances i've used maximized it overrides original rank
except aces because it ignors those
soft night
m o n e y
soft night
fits perfectly here
oh wtf is that astral triplet lmao
clear hare
this is going to be fun to write
summer cargo
It would also be funny to have a joker that just adds a blind to each ante but I don't think the game would like having 4/5/300 blinds per ante
brave ibex
this is going to be fun to write
could just copy paste the text in the pull request
since everything is undiscovered now wouldn't want to spoil the surprise
oh yeah I also put everything in the concepting sheet so you can copy paste from there too
clear hare
it's more fun like this
also helps me find issues with the in-game text
but yeah I am definitely referencing the PR for balance changes
clear hare
most are
just a few needed tweaking
also I made all the daggers uncommon
values can be tweaked later if too OP
brave ibex
monkey daggers feels a little weak as an uncommon
like it's around square joker scaling but you have to spend money
clear hare
ceremonial is also pretty weak tho
brave ibex
it's much stronger without nearly as much investment though 🤔
brave ibex
huge
clear hare
hopefully I included the right Talisman version this time
brave ibex
now we wait for the murphy stream
clear hare
🙏
release being up to date should make it much easier to install while getting the latest things added
upper pendant
waiting 1 hour more for possible oops
cold sandal
Imo there needs to be a setting to disable the M invasion jokers / Jolly Joker spam Jokers, they're kinda just flooding the joker pool at this point (m and M not included)
raven wedge
jolly joker is not a playstyle ‼️
clear hare
Imo there needs to be a setting to disable the M invasion jokers / Jolly Joker s...
Can move them into their own file to allow for that
I’m heading off, any oopsies will be fixed tomorrow
brave ibex
Imo there needs to be a setting to disable the M invasion jokers / Jolly Joker s...
tbh I made a lot of them have at least a little functionality outside jolly strats for exactly this reason
I think the only ones tht don't have some sort of functionality outside of jolly strategy are some of the commons
I want to avoid the need for a disable/enable setting so I might still change some things
maybe tommorow
brave ibex
ok after doing a lot of testing I think i'm going to make these changes, hopefully I can get these done quickly before murphy stream
but ugh it's so much and I'm busy tommorow
I'll find a way hopefully
lofty surge
I used judgement and it generated :D and :D generated Seltzer
clear hare
ok after doing a lot of testing I think i'm going to make these changes, hopeful...
If Sacrifice is buffed that much it should also be uncommon imo
oak herald
wait
is the mosaic enhancement sound just taken from bejeweled twist
also, i tried to sell a negtive jolly joker (gained from M) while having morse code
brave ibex
also, i tried to sell a negtive jolly joker (gained from M) while having morse c...
That’s weird
Maybe I need to update steamodded cause that worked for me when I was testing
oak herald
Maybe I need to update steamodded cause that worked for me when I was testing
if it helps, i downloaded straight from source about 20-30 minutes ago
brave ibex
Ah here’s the issue
Math used center.ability instead of card.ability
that’s an easy fix at least, just have to wait for math to wake up
leaden prawn
true harness
huh
as soon as selling negative Jolly, the game crashed
Morse Code was the cause I believe
brave ibex
Math used center.ability instead of card.ability <:balatrojoker:1139524811421405...
@true harness see here
true harness
ah I see
brave ibex
I think math is online rn since i just saw a commit so probably just wait for about 1 hour max
Wait no that was 3 hours ago nvm
true harness
that’s an easy fix at least, just have to wait for math to wake up
uh, where is it tho
I'd like to continue the run without the wait
brave ibex
Ill send a file with a fix rn
@true harness see if this file works
just replace the old Miscjokers with that one
clear hare
that’s an easy fix at least, just have to wait for math to wake up
Fixed
cold sandal
Some more edition enhancing Jokers:
Asteroid {Uncommon}:
Glitched Cards and Jokers are more likely to have higher values
Solar System {Uncommon}:
Mosaic Cards and Jokers give an additional x3 Chips
Galaxy {Uncommon}:
Oversaturated Cards and Jokers get their values doubled (again)
Universe {Rare}:
Astral Cards and Jokers give an additional ^1.2 Mult
oak herald
Some more edition enhancing Jokers:
Asteroid {Uncommon}:
Glitched Cards and Joke...
for universe, is it ^1.1 mult, then ^1.2 mult, ^1.2 mult, or ^1.3 mult?
cold sandal
It'd work similarily to how Stardust, Exoplanet, and Meteor Shower work in game
Which im not entirely certain about since I havent played the new ver
brave ibex
They work like baseball card
oak herald
noted
clear hare
Maybe Oversaturated one could be:
Retrigger all Oversaturated cards
soft night
the fact that the oversaturated one isn't called "Blazar" baffles me
like it's literally Eye Burning: The Cosmic Event
cold sandal
the fact that the oversaturated one isn't called "Blazar" baffles me
Fun fact:
I've never heard of that
soft night
fair
echo jacinth
alternate dimension: x21 mult if played cards add up to 21 (finally a joker that synergises with 7s)
clear hare
https://youtu.be/Mzgw6zMtipQ?feature=shared
Average Cryptid player
brave ibex
Are those Jimball’s cousins
snow rivet
I wonder if we can find a way to allow Balatro to have numbers like that LMAO
subtle nova
Maybe Oversaturated one could be:
Retrigger all Oversaturated cards
Me when my oversaturated oversaturated retriggers itself infinitly
clear hare
Nested retriggers don’t work
clear hare
I wonder if we can find a way to allow Balatro to have numbers like that LMAO
today let’s implement the entire fast growing hierarchy into Talisman
pulsar moss
Oops! The game crashed:
main.lua:5663: module 'lovely' not found:
no field package.preload['lovely']
no 'lovely' in LOVE game directories.
no file 'lovely' in LOVE paths.
no file '.\lovely.lua'
no file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Balatro\lua\lovely.lua'
no file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Balatro\lua\lovely\init.lua'
no file '.\lovely.dll'
no file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Balatro\lovely.dll'
no file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Balatro\loadall.dll'
Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1f-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0-ALPHA-0609b-STEAMODDED
Love2D Version: 11.5.0
Stack Traceback
(3) global C function 'require'
(4) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 5663
(5) global C function 'require'
(6) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x1e5bc9c8 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x1e5bcba0 (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(7) global C function 'xpcall'
(8) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(9) global C function 'xpcall'
(10) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
it just crashes randomly
its never consistent with my inputs
pulsar moss
is there a way to update without reinstalling?
clear hare
Just replace version.dll in the game files
pulsar moss
thank you
clear hare
yw
If you had a really old version of lovely it might have used dwmapi.dll instead of version.dll, so you’ll have to delete that if it exists in the game files
just don’t touch them in system32, that would be bad
clear hare
dont touch them in system32?
If you don’t know then just ignore what I said
Basically these are system32 files that have lovely’s code added to them
so if you accidentally replaced the original ones that would cause issues
soft night
alternate dimension: x21 mult if played cards add up to 21 (finally a joker that...
the entire violence set: am i a joke to you
clear hare
Send them
clear hare
It’s a reference
pulsar moss
to what?
clear hare
We asked the person who kept typing m what their least favorite common joker was
It was Jolly Joker
pulsar moss
thats pretty funny actually
clear hare
cool effect
pulsar moss
Is why my moon shaking and blurry now?
clear hare
It’s an edition
pulsar moss
Oh thank god
everything works now
thanks for helping im not good with computers
i just jinxed it
i types that played a hand and then got:
New Error!!!
clear hare
jus tstart a new run
pulsar moss
its like whack a mole
clear hare
have to fix that bug but it only happens if the blinds get enabled mid-run
lime inlet
We asked the person who kept typing m what their least favorite common joker was
i love when me is mentioned
teal plover
hey cryptid players, if you're looking to buff your hands even further, try this: https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1260376787758878751
(if you're using DX Tarots, make sure to disable its planet editions feature, that will conflict with this otherwise)
mental tiger
uhhhhhhhhh, I just updated Cryptid, and used the steamodded folder contained in the latest download/release, and uhhhhhhhhhhhh
using Dimserene's pack
brave ibex
remove all those other mods and see if it still crashes
clear hare
fun fact: this is a vanilla run
silver cobalt
Im sorry LEVEL 32 PAIR AND YOU HAVE PLAYED 5 OF THEM?
clear hare
this was seeded and I was bug testing
cold sandal
Are the M invasion Jokers / Jolly Joker Spam Jokers(not M and m) moved into a separate setting by any chance? I'll probably have it enabled when more Jokers are added, there's just too many of them compared to the amount of (Cyrptid) Jokers in total rn imo.
clear hare
Are the M invasion Jokers / Jolly Joker Spam Jokers(not M and m) moved into a se...
will be
in v0.4.1
because I know people didn't like them taking up a large chunk of the Cryptid Joker pool
raven wedge
and the daggers?
clear hare
if we add 20 of them then yes
silver cobalt
M invasion felt like a mod within a mod
clear hare
right now there's only 4 so nope
clear hare
M invasion felt like a mod within a mod
i feel a lot of cryptid is like that
the jokers, decks, stakes could all be fine as separate mods
that was my philosophy behind making everything toggleable right from the get go
M invasion just makes it noticable
brave ibex
Are the M invasion Jokers / Jolly Joker Spam Jokers(not M and m) moved into a se...
it's less than a quarter 😭
I'm almost done with my changes so we'll see how they are recived after that
clear hare
I think it's just that it feels a bit to common for some
I didn't rly notice that but I'm still going to move them to their own file
silver cobalt
And the exotics
clear hare
I'll check for epic/exotic as well
before doing that
hopefully the global variable I save the settings to works
minor hull
my game just crashes
oak herald
the daggers are fine
silver cobalt
Skill issue
brave ibex
and i ONLY have cryptid enabled
you need steamodded and lovely
it won't work with just cryptid
clear hare
update them all
brave ibex
what math said
clear hare
likely steamodded and/or lovely is out of date, or the folder is installed in the wrong location
minor hull
it sends me this error:
minor hull
oh. how do i install it?
clear hare
make sure the files are in Mods/Talisman exactly
minor hull
i see a gold seal in the mods screen
clear hare
hmm, odd
it should be installed properly, but I'm still not sure why it is broken in this way
minor hull
well let me try it again
it works now. just moved the talisman to mods. but before i moved it, it still showed me a gold seal.
does the infinite deck work?
minor hull
i cant select more than 5 cards. it says you can select all of them
cold sandal
Here's 4 daggers ima work on some more later
Mechanical Dagger {Epic}:
+3 Mult, when blind is selected, Destroy the next joker to the right that has a sell value of 2, and increase the level of operation (I think thats what it's called) by one. Increase the required sell value by 1 every time this effect is triggered.
Prince's Dagger {Rare}:
+$0, when blind is selected, Destroy Joker to the left, and gain half its sell value as +$.
King's Dagger {Rare}:
x$1, when blind is selected, Destroy Joker to the right, and gain 1/10th its sell value as x$.
Legend's Daggers {Epic}:
^$1, when blind is selected, Destroy the Jokers to the left and right of this Joker and gain one less than the 15th Root of the sum of those Jokers sell values {Rounded to the nearest hundredth} as ^$
minor hull
something tells me that if i pick up this joker my game will crash.
brave ibex
i cant select more than 5 cards. it says you can select all of them
I don't have this issue
might be something like an outdated version or mod incompatibility
brave ibex
something tells me that if i pick up this joker my game will crash.
that's just a visual thing for display
minor hull
oh
brave ibex
i have the same issue dw about it
minor hull
ah.
oak herald
ERROR
brave ibex
ok after doing a lot of testing I think i'm going to make these changes, hopeful...
alr finished up these
Hopefully this resolves issues people have since now they have much more functionality
snow rivet
What's the M thing about anyway? Is it a deep in-joke or smth, or just an idea the devs thought would be funny that spiraled into a whole Joker category?
clear hare
both tbh
snow rivet
I see.
brave ibex
What's the M thing about anyway? Is it a deep in-joke or smth, or just an idea ...
Correct
clear hare
going to bump :D back to $2 since the jokers it creates serve as econ even if they're bad
oh wait I'm looking at wrong thing
nvm
lime inlet
What's the M thing about anyway? Is it a deep in-joke or smth, or just an idea ...
I said m a lot which made everyone else say m a lot and then the rest is history
snow rivet
And now people are putting other letters in the suggestion box. Are we gonna have a whole alphabet? XD
cold sandal
Then on the joker side of things it went too far
cold sandal
And now people are putting other letters in the suggestion box. Are we gonna ha...
There was some concepts for letters outside of the suggestion box
snow rivet
Maybe the various Joker categories could have their own Packs. Like you could open an Alphabetical Pack and get yourself an M or a W or whatever.
cold sandal
Here was Y and y
I think an older idea for W w O and o were for wild cards and obelisk
clear hare
i can see epic alphabet happening
cold sandal
This abomination
clear hare
maybe wait a bit until we hit like 100-125 jokers?
because 50 new alphabet jokers will surely clog the pool
cold sandal
Yeah
clear hare
for reference we have 85 right now, about 15-18 are M jokers iirc
cold sandal
for reference we have 85 right now, about 15-18 are M jokers iirc
Subtract the Exotics and Legendaries from the count for a more accurate ratio
Since they cant appear in shop {Normally}
clear hare
that's only -10
celest tinsel
wait whats a m joker?
brave ibex
But I put a joker gate on doodle M and Loopy and tiny is only an M joker in theming so really it’s only 15 m jokers that are relevant
brave ibex
wait whats a m joker?
Update version, it’s the ones with m on them
brave ibex
Thats a classic
celest tinsel
i didnt touch it :(
snow rivet
Since they cant appear in shop {Normally}
Normally? Is there a Voucher that lets them spawn in shops or smth?
celest tinsel
no. balanced deck and antimater
snow rivet
Ah.
Honestly that should be a set of Vouchers. Tier 1 makes Rares and Epics appear more often, Tier 2 lets Legendaries appear in the shop, and Tier 3 lets Exotics appear in the shop.
clear hare
But I put a joker gate on doodle M and Loopy and tiny is only an M joker in them...
plus a bunch of them can also be used without trying to get jolly jokers
clear hare
Honestly that should be a set of Vouchers. Tier 1 makes Rares and Epics appear ...
rarity api when 🙏
brave ibex
plus a bunch of them can also be used without trying to get jolly jokers
Yeah that’s what I was going for lets see if these changes are enough xd
clear hare
rn cyan stake is hardcoded and it would be kind of a mess to do this
but it's also a good idea
so definitely put it in the suggestion box
brave ibex
I think we just wait for Ascendant stake to drop first before reworking existing stakes
clear hare
if I have to code rarity API to make it work I will (eventually)
cold sandal
Heres the Letter Joker discussion from a while ago
clear hare
I think we just wait for Ascendant stake to drop first before reworking existing...
wouldn't be reworked, just much easier/compatible to code if a rarity api existed
but rates don't need to change
cold sandal
Normally? Is there a Voucher that lets them spawn in shops or smth?
Deck of Equilibrium {And technically Antimatter Deck} overrides shop rates and goes crazy
clear hare
clear hare
Deck of Equilibrium {And technically Antimatter Deck} overrides shop rates and g...
basically doesn't care about rarity and makes all of the rarity pools become a pool with every possible item
so it side steps the problem
jaunty scarab
if I have to code rarity API to make it work I will (eventually)
I'll join you with Obj Pool API because the whole get_current_pool function is really inconvenient to use for custom objects.
clear hare
wouldn't be hard to just make a weighted pool like packs
brave ibex
basically doesn't care about rarity and makes all of the rarity pools become a p...
Is it possible yet to exclude objects from doe I wonder
snow rivet
Deck of Equilibrium {And technically Antimatter Deck} overrides shop rates and g...
Yeah, Empire of Dogs told me earlier.
clear hare
Is it possible yet to exclude objects from doe I wonder
jenwalter added support
mainly because he's working on a mod that, in part, adds jokers more powerful than exotics
and didn't want them to appear even in DoE
brave ibex
Yeah I looked at that but It doesn’t make sense to me
Like where am I supposed to put that
clear hare
no_doe = true in the table you make
snow rivet
mainly because he's working on a mod that, in part, adds jokers more powerful th...
Ooooo what's that tier called?
brave ibex
I see, good to know
celest tinsel
is there somewhere i can find the crtpted files without scrolling for 30 minutes?
clear hare
Transcendent
clear hare
is there somewhere i can find the crtpted files without scrolling for 30 minutes...
pins
snow rivet
Makes sense.
celest tinsel
ty
jaunty scarab
Transcendent
We gonna transcend the score into naneinf with those jokers 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️
clear hare
listing out all the m jokers (mainly so I know not to forget to move any to the file)
- Jolly Joker?
- Kidnapping
- Bubble M
- Fast Food M
- M Stack
- Neon M
- Notebook
- Bonk
- Morse Code
- Loopy
- Scrabble Tile
- Sacrifice
- Reverse Card
- Doodle M
- Virgo
- Tiny
Also M and m but they're staying
brave ibex
Hm since Jennwalter is busy with his own mods this kinds puts the EX consumeables in a weird spot
jaunty scarab
(Forgor reply ping 💀 )
clear hare
EX consumables will be part of cryptid
celest tinsel
i was on version 3.4 💀
clear hare
maybe for v0.5.0?
brave ibex
listing out all the m jokers (mainly so I know not to forget to move any to the ...
M could prob be put there too since it’s thematically similar but up to you
snow rivet
Weren't they called DX or am I thinking of a different mod?
soft night
wouldnt it be funny if i turned LITERALLY EVERY ULTRAKILL LEVEL into a joker because the M has inspired me- /j
snow rivet
Ah.
clear hare
go for it
snow rivet
this is like DX tarots cranked up to 11
would that mean FX consumables are even stronger?
clear hare
MX
snow rivet
HEY THERE CHAMP
celest tinsel
Glitched - All values are randomized between X0.1 and X1, if possible if so isint glitched purly negitive?
clear hare
M could prob be put there too since it’s thematically similar but up to you
M and m are the classics tho
clear hare
oops
brave ibex
Minor spelling mistake
true harness
lol
soft night
~~go for it~~
ok real talk i'm willing to put Minos Prime and Sisyphus Prime as legendaries
true harness
I forgor to spot that
soft night
~~wouldnt it be funny if i turned LITERALLY EVERY ULTRAKILL LEVEL into a joker b...
i mean the only reason why i did every violence level was because 7s
if i did limbo levels it'd have to buff aces 
celest tinsel
mmmmm, balanced
soft night
boker
celest tinsel
in the colection this joker cuts of my screen. dont know if its for everyone
brave ibex
Yeah it’s for everyone basically I made the description too wordy
And it cuts off at the top
brave ibex
Imagine 0.5 💀
true harness
we have already passed the 0.5 mark
celest tinsel
Yeah it’s for everyone basically I made the description too wordy
couldent you have it be on the top or botom row and it be fine?
cold sandal
we have already passed the 0.5 mark
Oopsie
celest tinsel
just move wheer the jokers are in the colection
cold sandal
Imagine 3x
clear hare
btw my plan is to go 1.0 after 0.9 whenever that is
but still do updates after
I'm not going to wait until like 0.25 until every concept is added
celest tinsel
what is with jolly joker and m? or will i be killed for asking
soft night
fuck it, stupid idea
Ultra Violence (Epic)
Each played 7 has a 1 in 7 chance to create a Negative Garden of Forking Paths, Light Up the Night, No Sound, No Memory, or ...Like Antennas to Heaven.
brave ibex
couldent you have it be on the top or botom row and it be fine?
Yeah but it’s only an issue in the collection specifically and when new things are added it’s going to move around again so it’s not worth fixing
clear hare
what is with jolly joker and m? or will i be killed for asking
@lime inlet spammed m a lot in the chat
we asked them what their least favorite Common Joker was - Jolly Joker
then m was added in-game, then M
then Jevonn made like 15 more jokers with that theme
brave ibex
There were 3 more initially
cold sandal
Original m discussion
celest tinsel
m
cold sandal
m
brave ibex
m
cold sandal
I just remember whats said in them lmao
brave ibex
clear hare
let's see if I coded the separate file right
true harness
M
soft night
btw they're going to appear after epic jokers right now
new rarity: m
celest tinsel
yes
soft night
fuck it, stupid idea
**Ultra Violence** (Epic)
Each played 7 has a 1 in 7 chanc...
yes or no chat
brave ibex
That says "a"
Discord moment
soft night
the 7 meta grows
brave ibex
Odd todd makes sevens viable
brave ibex
What did you name the file lmao
brave ibex
It’s gonna load after challenges
clear hare
already got you covered
cold sandal
The challenges have fallen asleep
celest tinsel
this happenes whenever i try to open a pack
clear hare
actually this is just easier
brave ibex
New operation 
clear hare
this happenes whenever i try to open a pack
i've noticed this before still don't rly know why it happens sproadically
epic joker pool isn't epic joker pooling
but only in buffoon packs
brave ibex
i've noticed this before still don't rly know why it happens sproadically
I have a feeling it’s doodle M causing this
Idk just a gut feeling
celest tinsel
planing to get completonist++++
cold sandal
Cant wait for someone to somehow beat Joker Stake Real Autowin Deck
celest tinsel
every crypted deck on acendent stakes
clear hare
completionist#
subtle nova
no more m jokers guys
Okay but hear me out. n jokers.
celest tinsel
Cant wait for someone to somehow beat Joker Stake Real Autowin Deck
whats both of those?
clear hare
highest stake and hardest deck in concepting
celest tinsel
what do they both do?
clear hare
basically balatro but if you start the run you lose
subtle nova
basically balatro but if you start the run you lose
The win button in the debug menu
clear hare
oh you also have to beat the sticker sheet challenge
celest tinsel
whats that?
clear hare
where every joker has eternal, perishable, rental, pinned, and whatever other stickers we ever add
brave ibex
I don’t think either of those are a good idea imo
I think adding more stakes/very fair decks now will make c++ impossible
clear hare
where every joker has eternal, perishable, rental, pinned, and whatever other st...
this is basically just completing a jokerless run on blank deck
and if drspectred can do it on black deck...
lime inlet
just thought of a jonkler gave u the ability to switch out one of ur jonklers for another one of the same rarity
by selling
true harness
infinite money hack
brave ibex
Stonks
lime inlet
you could only do it like idk twice per ante
brave ibex
I think a once per round works
lime inlet
I just want a way to give myself another exotic that I don't want atm
brave ibex
Like Notebook and jollysus
clear hare
ok separating m jokers works now, with epic checks too
going to try and get azure seal to work since it was going off a now-closed-and-refactored-differently PR to fix seal API
then I'll drop v0.4.1
soft night
new seal? :o
clear hare
thanks to stupxd
true harness
what does azure seal do
clear hare
lime inlet
just thought of a jonkler gave u the ability to switch out one of ur jonklers fo...
Idk what this should be called
soft night
OOOO
lime inlet
DNA be like
clear hare
high risk high reward
brave ibex
That wording looks weird to me
I’m too used to Mr. Bones wording lmao 😭
lime inlet
Idk what this should be called
Could be called Switcheroo
clear hare
makes more sense for jokers tbh
no why does the spectral use completely different wording 😢
cold sandal
what do they both do?
Joker Stake, Real Autowin Deck is the following:
Small Blinds no longer exist
Antes scale stupidly fast
Jokers have a chance to be Eternal, Perishable, Rental, Pinned, and/or Banana
-3 Discards, -2 Hands
Jokers are rarer
Higher rarity Jokers are rarer
No Booster Packs or Vouchers
All Common Jokers are eternal, all other Jokers are Rental
Blinds give no reward money
Shop prices are doubled
Stickers are all compatible with eachother and can appear on anything
Cards have a chance to be face down (Including while in shop)
Scoring cards have a chance to be destroyed
Rerolls scale in price twice as fast
Win ante is ante 10
Big Blinds may be Boss Blinds
Boss Blinds may be Final Boss Blinds (Except on ante 1)
You lose 1/4 of your money after every ante
Everything sells for $0
Tarots and Spectrals target 1 fewer card (Minimum of 1)
A card is added to your deck every time a blind is selected
Values on Jokers are reduced by 20%
-1 Shop Slot
2 cards in your first hand are Frozen
A random quarter of your starting deck is Cursed (As in the Sticker)
Chip gain is halved
+Mult Jokers are less likely to appear in shop
Values on xMult Jokers are reduced
Boss Blinds are Two Boss Blinds at once
-1 Joker Slot
clear hare
it works tho
this wording is inconsistent tho, going to fix quickly
also wait the other seal cards don't use tooltips?
😭
snow rivet
just thought of a jonkler gave u the ability to switch out one of ur jonklers fo...
That reminds me of the Undying -> Reincarnation Voucher set. Tier 1 makes it so you can keep destroyed Jonklers' ghosts, which don't take up Joker Slots, but only activate half the time. Tier 2 lets you sell the ghosts and they get reborn as a new Jonkler of the same tier.
soft night
inspired by that:
Fuchsia Seal
If this card is held in hand at end of round, create 2 Negative copies of the last used Tarot card and destroy this card.
application card could be called Reflection
clear hare
also they all use your 😭
brave ibex
What 💀
clear hare
the word "your"
brave ibex
Nah no way that true
celest tinsel
Joker Stake, Real Autowin Deck is the following:
Small Blinds no longer exist
A...
pure evil
soft night
inspired by that:
**Fuchsia Seal**
If this card is held in hand at end of round...
is this a good idea
clear hare
ye
brave ibex
I mean I could understand why cloud 9/hologram and obelisk but why was this left in 😡
cold sandal
Me on my way to hit the best seed ever and win Joker Stake Real Autowin Deck first try
snow rivet
Maybe they refer to you in second person to imply multiplayer was at one point planned, and thus they are referring to you and not the other player(s)? 🤔
soft night
thinking about a seal for spectrals
if discarded, destroy and spawn a spectral?
color is probably teal
teal seal lol
clear hare
we have tablets and keys
what's going to be the third custom consumable type to finish the trinity
soft night
i may have an idea
cold sandal
When i finish the art
Which according to the first law of procrastijation thatll probably take 20 more months
snow rivet
what's going to be the third custom consumable type to finish the trinity
Miscellaneous-- no wait, that'd just be Oddities again.
soft night
just spitballing here but what if there was a consumable type that affected aspects of the game itself, like doubling the values on a selected Joker or making a particular item show up in the shop?
snow rivet
Meta Cards?
cold sandal
what's going to be the third custom consumable type to finish the trinity
Wasnt there old concepting for Curses of Gods or something?
cold sandal
Somewhere around here
cold sandal
Wasnt there old concepting for Curses of Gods or something?
Is where that started
soft night
://MULTIPLY (Code)
Double the values on a selected Joker for the rest of this round.
snow rivet
Could also have 'em have funni Game Genie-style names if we're going for a cheat code theme.
soft night
://SPAWN (Code)
Select two Jokers. For this round, when one triggers, the other triggers as well.
soft night
Could also have 'em have funni Game Genie-style names if we're going for a cheat...
i kinda like the convention i have going here
cold sandal
Rate the wacky retrigger Joker idea chat
soft night
://SACRIFICE (Code)
Select a Joker. Use this card to sell the selected Joker. It will re-appear in the next shop for free and with a higher Edition.
Sacrifice can nuke Eternals btw
because by the power of CHEATING
clear hare
sounds cool but feels wacky to implement/understand
because of going left->right
and I don't really have support for going out of order
soft night
was that in reference to mystic's idea
://MARKDOWN (Code)
Use in a shop to halve all listed prices.
clear hare
was that in reference to mystic's idea
ye
clear hare
I think it can work
soft night
lets fucking gooo
clear hare
the cheat-code aesthetic works
soft night
i'll start designing some then
clear hare
soft night
sick
clear hare
none of the vanilla seal spectrals use tooltips but they should
I'm just thinking ahead for Balatro 1.0.2
soft night
can i get a blank spectral card template rq
i wanna use it as a base for consumable card size
brave ibex
are you liking the Code ideas btw
Google play card gaming
clear hare
this one is pretty empty
soft night
thank
brave ibex
I think they get resized in the code anyway so dw too much about it as long as it’s 71x95
clear hare
hmm will this work?
clear hare
I think they get resized in the code anyway so dw too much about it as long as i...
spritesheets all use 71x95
but good for the most part for consumables to use that
clear hare
I know Bonus Blinds for instance uses the same size as jokers and don't have a unique borer or anything and it makes them feel almost like jokers
balanced
brave ibex
Checkered deck enjoyer 🗣️🗣️🔥
weak burrow
Perkeo observatory at home be like:
clear hare
who needs perkeo when I have azure seal
lime inlet
**://MARKDOWN** (Code)
Use in a shop to halve all listed prices.
://PAYDAY
Use mid round to triple interest
clear hare
alr one test run before I release this
gonna go for an actually somewhat balanced deck
jaunty scarab
gonna go for an actually somewhat balanced deck
Timer started, will stop when crash
cold sandal
Btw one (or more) of these Jokers aren't in the game yet
jaunty scarab
Surely it needs one (clueless)
lime inlet
://[idk the name]
Select a Joker to make all listed probabilities guaranteed
clear hare
ok you can restart the timer, now I'm starting a new run
jaunty scarab
ok
clear hare
://[idk the name]
Select a Joker to make all listed probabilities guaranteed
://RNGMANIP
paradoxical straight
it scored the smaller one
cold sandal
cold sandal
Btw for reference it was Augmen Canvas
lime inlet
`://RNGMANIP`
Maybe ://CERTAIN
clear hare
good call I think
lime inlet
Imagine a cheat code that grants you mid round shop
Another CCD reference
clear hare
:O
soft night
://[idk the name]
Select a Joker to make all listed probabilities guaranteed
://CERTAINTY
lime inlet
Noice
raven wedge
://CD: Opens Windows Explorer
soft night
://RUN (Code)
Visit a shop.
lime inlet
://HANDPICK
Next hand will be your most played poker hand
clear hare
i got this from judgement :O
clear hare
m
soft night
://HANDPICK
Next played hand is considered to be your most played poker hand. (Currently Flush)
jaunty scarab
8 Minutes and no crash, update cooking with gas
clear hare
I have a flush build
raven wedge
m
dusty plover
m
snow rivet
I like how m is to this mod as Chess Battle Advanced is to IcelyPuzzles.
soft night
here's a fun one
://REBOOT (Code)
Replenish Hands and Discards. Return all cards to deck and draw a new hand.
lime inlet
://REFILL
Refill hands and discards
://RESHUFFLE
Force all cards back into the deck and redraw hand
soft night
WHAT
snow rivet
Same braincell moment.
soft night
🤝
clear hare
lmao
soft night
and just for the hell of it...
lime inlet
We gotta make that an Easter egg somehow
clear hare
inb4 white hole
lime inlet
That is perfect
soft night
Green Seal (Seal)
When this card is played and unscored, gain a random Code card.
dusty plover
was boutta post a sheet suggestion i gotta stop doing this
its becoming muscle memory
clear hare
hey
jaunty scarab
wee
lime inlet
://REWIND
Go back to previous ante(as in literally time travel one ante back)
soft night
oh my god
soft night
://RESPEC
Select 2 cards. Convert all cards that match the rank of the left card into the rank of the right card.
clear hare
clearing the rng too is cool
soft night
**://REWIND**
Go back to previous ante(as in literally time travel one ante back...
://REWIND
Revert game state to the start of the previous Ante.
lime inlet
Maybe ://IMPROBABLE
scenic pumice
m
soft night
://M (only enabled if M jokers are enabled)
Create a Jolly Joker.
scenic pumice
M
lime inlet
://JOLLY
Increase spawn rate of all M related Jokers
Should it be permanent or temporary
soft night
://NEUTRALIZE
Set required score to 1.5x Base.
soft night
Should it be permanent or temporary
temp methinks
snow rivet
IDK if it'd even be possible to put into the game, but I had a silly idea for a Final Boss Blind. Purple Pillar: When you beat this Blind, you have to go back through all previous Blinds in reverse order within a time limit (which would be higher the higher the Ante it's encountered on).
lime inlet
://DECCELERATE
Decrease ante scaling a bit
jaunty scarab
://DAEMON
Permanently triple blind scoring requirements. Generates as a lookalike of a random Code card.
(Yes, I am being very evil with this suggestion)
clear hare
close to losing on the hard counter to my build
besides that we're chilling
wee at 600
obsidian orb 💀
jaunty scarab
28 minutes and no crash, YIPPEE
soft night
here's ://REWIND
clear hare
ok I think we're fine because suit debuffing bosses still don't work for some reason
but I tried to pivot towards hearts
and loyalty will proc
ngl obsidian orb is tough
soft night
://COMPILE (Spectral)
Create 7 random Negative Code cards.
clear hare
no crashing @jaunty scarab
jaunty scarab
Nice
clear hare
i also can't really say if the +1 hand size helped becuase I ended up going from 9 hand size to 12 to 11
soft night
**://RUN** (Code)
Visit a shop.
lime inlet
How many cheat codes we have rn
soft night
;//
End non-Boss Blind. Skip the rewards.
yes it is literally a semicolon ending the blind
soft night
How many cheat codes we have rn
a fair few
im making art for em
renamed rewind to revert
brave ibex
also gives antimatter deck another buff
Isn’t painted +2? I thought the higher bonus would take priority 🤔
clear hare
they stack
+3 now
although I think I forgot to commit that so it'll wait until 0.4.2 ig
soft night
://PATCH
Remove all debuffs.
lime inlet
Elaborate?
soft night
Elaborate?
all debuffs that are currently visible are removed
that includes refreshing perishable jokers
hollow berry
Fry Pan (Uncommon)
1/3 chance for X3 mult, X3 chips
lime inlet
hehe reboot card
jaunty scarab
Turning the blind on and off again
lime inlet
://DELETE
Select 2 items to permanently remove for the rest of the run
hollow berry
delete the blind
true harness
://REBOOT
Restart this ante
lime inlet
Probably should compile all the current cheat codes rn
All the current code ideas(as of now)
://MULTIPLY: Select a Joker to double all its values for this current round
://SPAWN: Select 2 Jokers. For this round, when one triggers, the other does also
://SACRIFICE: Select a Joker then sell it. Next shop the selected Joker reappears for free with a higher Edition
://MARKDOWN: Halves all listed prices in current shop
://PAYDAY: Triple interest on next payout
://CERTAINTY: Select a Joker to guarantee all listed probabilities
://RUN: When used in Blind, visit a shop
://HANDPICK: Next hand is set to your most played hand
://REBOOT: Replenish Hands and Discards. Return all cards to deck then draw a new hand
://REWIND: Revert game state to the start of previous Ante
://M: Spawn a Jolly Joker (is enabled with M Jokers)
://JOLLY: Increase spawn rate of all M related Jokers for the next 3 rounds
://DAEMON: Permanently triply blind scoring requirements (Generates as a lookalike of a random Code card)
;//: End non-Boss Blind with no rewards
://PATCH: Remove all debuffs
://DELETE: Select 2 items to permanently remove for the rest of the run
I love mobile discord (not)
clear hare
i got sidetracked reworking the example mod I made for steamodded during the demo
but anyway now I know how to add poker hands seven months later
cold sandal
I think I have a silly concepting sheet that has poker hands up to 10 cards but its missing a bunch of possible* stuff
hollow berry
straight flush of a kind is real in 5
clear hare
I think I have a silly concepting sheet that has poker hands up to 10 cards but ...
there's several I think
#1196645107609378906 message
^this one was really complete
cold sandal
They also have values that are a little wacky
Theres also this 4 card hand
Doublet (60x7)
(Two Pair with two of one suit and two of another)
Wacky values
lime inlet
All the current code ideas(as of now)
**://MULTIPLY**: Select a Joker to doubl...
omg that took forever
cold sandal
Heres everything I got (Missing a bunch of stuff, and missing most secret hands)
Also Full House is renamed to Full Cabin because I decided to use Full House for something else
clear hare
scale is interesting
but tbh in a mod where you can select 5 cards or infinitely many I feel like higher-card hands don't make much sense
it's going to be more like "why is this hand not counting as a flush"
this is also why royal flush was never added as a poker hand officially
because it would throw off straight flush builds too much
flush five also wasn't added until later, though
cold sandal
For the other secret hand I feel like something more creative than Flush Five could've happened
clear hare
ye
i think a big reason for it being added was community hype around it at the time
and then localthunk probably tried it and was like, "hmm, this isn't so bad"
clear hare
lol
cold sandal
Planet card gives +10 +10 to be funny or something
clear hare
+1e100 +1e100
cold sandal
+1e69 +1e42
cold sandal
gn
snow rivet
Since it's associated with the Royal Flush, should I change Vulcan in the Suggestion Box to another planet?
clear hare
Sure
snow rivet
Apparently what I named Nemesis is actually Counter-Earth.
I'll go with the Greek name since that's shorter and sounds cooler.
soft night
What if there was a " " hand type for when you only play stone cards
Flush Rock
snow rivet
Oh hey, a hypothetical planet named after a fictional one to replace a hypothetical planet that a fictional one was named after. That's a good replacement.
soft night
All the current code ideas(as of now)
**://MULTIPLY**: Select a Joker to doubl...
some will be renamed to be computing terms once i get the art done
also have a few more ideas
://LOG
See the next Ante's Skip Tags and Boss Blind.
soft night
://GLOBAL
Select a card. Use this card to make selected card be drawn to your opening hand each round.
://REFACTOR
Create 2 random Code cards. (Must have room.)
://INSTANTIATE
Select a card. Draw one card of selected card's rank and another of selected card's suit.
jaunty scarab
I kinda wanna also see Constellation/Astronomer/Satellite type jokers for Code cards.
Would make them feel more “complete” overall
Or at least other interactions than just with other code cards
soft night
://NPE
Return cards played in previous hand to your hand.
soft night
Or at least other interactions than just with other code cards
planned
Python
This Joker gains +1 Mult per Code card used.
Repository
Create a Code card upon selecting a Blind. (Must have room.)
jaunty scarab
://CTRLC CTRLV (or just CTRLV)
Select a card. Duplicate it.
soft night
NICE
jaunty scarab
Haven’t seen a card dupe Code yet iirc
soft night
adding that one
livid temple
is the update out yet
soft night
://FUNCTION
Use 3 consumables after using this card. All future ://FUNCTIONs repeat these consumables in the order they were used.
[Displays the stored sequence after first use]
function a fucking soul 
this could lead to very funny combos
Hermit->Fool->Hermit
livid temple
is the update out yet
do you know
soft night
latest is 0.4.1
livid temple
latest is 0.4.1
when did that come out
soft night
earlier tonight
soft night
OH MY GOD
Fifth Commit
Played 5s have a 1 in 4 chance of creating a Code card when scored.
rough violet
feels too much like 8ball tbh
soft night
that was the basis, idk i just wanted something like it for codes
(-/Jumbo/Mega) Program Pack
Choose (1/1/2) of up to (2/4/4) Code cards to add to your possession.
jaunty scarab
://FUNCTION pulls ://FUNCTION and then the game displays [this](https://www.yout...
Wait a minute. What if doing this could spawn a spectral card like Soul or Black Hole called ://RECURSION?
soft night
nah i already have that planned
jaunty scarab
Damn
lime inlet
Hello World Joker when
soft night
POINTER:// creates 7 negative Code cards
lime inlet
Is the :// on the right side on purpose
soft night
yes