well then
#Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]
celest tinsel
clear hare
Oh wait for naneinf I think you just have the score unlimiter disabled (or at least, did when you started the run - it’s weird when reopening savefiles)
Now that I’m thinking about it there was someone else who was getting Infinity with no other mods besides Talisman and it may be from not starting their run without it
celest tinsel
this deck is op
clear hare
Balanced
celest tinsel
gets more op by the second
cold sandal
The Vault
oak herald
lavender loop dose not seem to be working
it works when you enter the blind
umbral dagger
Ye loop only starts activating once you're physically inside the blind
oak herald
whens lavender loop^2
oak herald
^1.1 blind reqiurements every 1 second spent on this blind
cold sandal
If you want a challenge play Rush Hour
celest tinsel
its 1.25x every 1.5 seconds
cold sandal
(the challenge)
celest tinsel
If you want a challenge play Rush Hour
whats it do?
also i want to chalange my curent build
oak herald
every boss is the clock or lavender loop
celest tinsel
oh no
cold sandal
All Boss Blinds are The Clock, Final Boss Blind is Lavender Loop
oak herald
nice overshoot
cold sandal
normal blind
celest tinsel
oh no
cold sandal
Lavender Loop but evil (Just follow what i did there)
celest tinsel
oh no
please implemet as an adition to the final stake
so whatever it dose and then + that
just a little extra screw you
celest tinsel
oh no
cold sandal
Cookie Clicker Joker
cold sandal
Probably one of the best jokers
celest tinsel
im scording e15e15
cold sandal
especially with retriggers or blueprint/brainstorm
celest tinsel
ah
umbral dagger
cosmic stake sure sounds real great 
I can't wait to fight water needle
umbral dagger
tax flint would also be a giga combo to find early on
cold sandal
tax flint would also be a giga combo to find early on
tax needle would be banned
cold sandal
Its basically needle with a 2x requirement
Eye: No repeat hand types
Mouth: Only the first hand type
silver cobalt
Also no burglar
celest tinsel
got da pickel
cold sandal
pickle moment
silver cobalt
Maybe when it tries to generate a boss reroll tag it should generate a double tag instead instead of generating nothing
I noticed that in the code
celest tinsel
cold sandal
Burgular Canvas?
celest tinsel
it just crashed so hard that my chrombook has discord crashing
i had like 7 of the create negitive copy on shop
oh well
cold sandal
Just wait until these get added 
vestal seal
waluigi moment (the joke was activated ante 1)
clear hare
waluigi moment (the joke was activated ante 1)
Speedrun Strats
Wait does royal flush give 1200?
cold sandal
Somethings wrong with my waluigi
clear hare
Seems legit
cold sandal
(I just switched the names around)
clear hare
EX Consumables coming in 1 month (surely)
I also gotta stop procrastinating Ankh
That should’ve been released a week ago lol
silver cobalt
Some dude in the forbidden normal channels came up with this boss blind in a dream
It was such a good idea, so i turned it i to a cryptid suggestion
clear hare
Why is that an awesome idea
jaunty scarab
Wait they're cooking
cold sandal
Hehe say bye to your blinds
clear hare
And with the logic already added for one of the stakes it’ll be easy to implement (surely)
silver cobalt
They werent cooking with the others from the dream though
Maybe the last one could be one though
clear hare
Last one would be funny
silver cobalt
It feels like a final boss lol
jaunty scarab
"You cannot use the shop" sounds utterly evil and I love it.
clear hare
There’s something similar in the suggestion box
Like “can buy less than 10 items in shop this ante”
Being unable to use the shop after beating the boss would be cruel though
cold sandal
Like “can buy less than 10 items in shop this ante”
The Supply and The Demand
Anyways
186
jaunty scarab
And I thought disabling the payout screen was an evil effect that you could give to a blind, that's so much worse (and better).
clear hare
Cruel blind idea:
X2 base, Has no effect
^2 base when disabled (can stack)
silver cobalt
I love using ipa symbols for blinds
cold sandal
Cruel blind idea:
X2 base, Has no effect
^2 base when disabled (can stack)
Chicot L Blind
jaunty scarab
Luchador in shambles
cold sandal
Nobody would Luchador that
silver cobalt
Oh btw are my edition ideas good as an extension to polychrome?
cold sandal
Cosmic Stake with that blind would be funny
clear hare
Other idea:
All future blinds cannot be disabled or rerolled
(The boss itself can be disabled.)
silver cobalt
Also way too evil
jaunty scarab
I may or may not steal the idea of blinds that are like auras on the whole ante.
clear hare
Go ahead
I feel like it might make more sense if they apply on the ante after beating the boss
Edition ideas seem good @silver cobalt
With EX consumables though, EX needs a better name
Maybe we use over saturated for that
silver cobalt
Yeah its hard to come up with one that doesnt overlap astral
What about something generic like ultra
And then the theming can all be in the wackiness of the shader
We just beed a ^mult edition no matter what to preserve the beautiful symmetry
clear hare
I have to see what new APIs were added so I can use them
cold sandal
We just beed a ^mult edition no matter what to preserve the beautiful symmetry
Theres a new xChips edition as well so what if we get a ^Chips
silver cobalt
^Chips doesnt exist
clear hare
Until now
^^Mult also doesn’t exist right now, except in concepting and a sound effect
cold sandal
I was working on some hand specific vouchers
I have them for High Card, Pair, and Two Pair so far
Top-Heavy {T1 Voucher}:
Scoring Aces in a High Card Hand gain +1Mult.
Tipper {T2 Voucher}:
Scoring Aces in a High Card Hand gain x0.1Chips (Starts at x1).
In The Clouds {T3 Voucher}:
Scoring Aces in a High Card Hand gain +1 Retrigger.
Dual Value {T1 Voucher}:
Scoring cards in a Pair Hand are retriggered.
Twinning {T2 Voucher}:
All card retriggers in a Pair Hand are doubled.
Double or Nothing {T3 Voucher}:
Pair Hands give ^2Mult. All other hands give x0.5Mult.
Double Double {T1 Voucher}:
Two Pair Hands give x2Mult.
Two Two {T2 Voucher}:
Two Pair Hands containing a non-scoring 2 create a Negative Wee Joker.
Teams of Two {T3 Voucher}:
Two Pair Hands double all values on Scaling Jokers.
true harness
how do retriggers stack on a card without red seal or retriggering joker
cold sandal
Just tie it to the card
clear hare
Oh you’re talking about the concept
I’m dumb
Yeah it would be separate from seals/jokers
Just like those they would combine additively
cold sandal
Cant wait for Ace High build
500 retriggers
x12525 Chips
+125250 Mult
Very Balanced
Also
ADHD Joker is Legendary worthy
I am become the ADHD Joker
At some point we just gotta have a Legendary Joker for a bunch of random people who helped with the mod
Jevonn {But as a Joker}
HexaCryonic {But as a Joker}
MathIsFun {But as a Joker}
oak herald
wouldnt it be funny if i made a crk joker as a suggestion
raven wedge
yknow how Laetitia is just a Cryptid on demand
I can't wait to see people start duplicating Aces with 2949483762 retriggers
oak herald
yknow how Laetitia is just a Cryptid on demand
now flip in with betmna vouchers
cold sandal
Double Scale + In The Clouds
silver cobalt
^^Mult also doesn’t exist right now, except in concepting and a sound effect
Make it exist please
oak herald
you get the card back allowing you to dupe the card infinitely
raven wedge
flabbergastation
silver cobalt
Though on your own time
raven wedge
playing crossmod is. Certainly
oak herald
honestly where mods get super intresting is other mod interactions
cold sandal
Cant wait for Double Scale + Omnia Quarteria
Oversaturated Mystic Summit looks cool
400% saturation Cartomancer
Dusk still doing dusk things
clear hare
Maybe for Oversaturated to make it look cooler the over saturation value will change over time
Like x1.5-x2.25 or something
Submit some of these to the Re;Shuffled 2 form @cold sandal
It would be funny
soft night
Cant wait for Double Scale + Omnia Quarteria
[ NEW FEAR UNLOCKED ]
soft night
Yggdrasil
TREE(Mult)
silver cobalt
Uh no
celest tinsel
hmmmm
mental tiger
All of those numbers are extremely cursed
slow sonnet
i have steammodded 1.0.0 alpha is that the problem
brave ibex
i have steammodded 1.0.0 alpha is that the problem
send your mods folder
slow sonnet
soft night
where talisman
brave ibex
uhh yeah there are a few issues
slow sonnet
Talisman is in cryptid for me
brave ibex
all the lovely.toml mods need to be put in their own seperate folder
soft night
theres your problem
brave ibex
and talisman is supposed to be in it's own folder, not in cryptid
soft night
take everything out
put it in
the other directory
the directory with "lovely" in it
and have that be the only other thing in there
slow sonnet
all the lovely.toml mods need to be put in their own seperate folder
So like this?
soft night
@slow sonnet
brave ibex
oh wait there nothing in there
soft night
this will be your balatro mods directory
soft night
brave ibex
nice
brave ibex
yeah talisman has an animation skip that enabled by default
you can find it in the options if you want to disable it
pulsar moss
Does the blank deck in cryptid actually do nothing?
What deck gives cents and What give the increased exotic joker rate
slow sonnet
you can find it in the options if you want to disable it
where in options?
brave ibex
where in options?
spectral pack > talisman
slow sonnet
thank you, got it
brave ibex
What deck gives cents and What give the increased exotic joker rate
Misprint and Deck of equilibrium respectively
pulsar moss
Thank you
brave ibex
or antimatter but that does everything
pulsar moss
That's why I was asking
slow sonnet
is there a speed cap for the game? Cause at 64x speed its pretty fast but at 2048x speed it seems pretty much the smae
slow sonnet
is there a way to push it past 60fps
like a mod or anything
because thats what mine runs at
brave ibex
haha not really
silver cobalt
im trying to learn but its sort of confusing
I understand
It can be a bit of a doozy
But you can learn as you go
Thats what i did while making my first mod, ro-balatro
slow sonnet
oh i saw that one!
slow sonnet
But you can learn as you go
who's mods did you look at to learn?
So far I've managed to use the blank joker template sort of and also modify the morespeeds mod
silver cobalt
who's mods did you look at to learn?
Source code mostly
You can get it by extracting the exe with 7-zip
slow sonnet
How do i make a joker that adds chips to a played hand. I know its basic, but I'm just trying to make one that is basically a copy of the basic joker but for chips
slow sonnet
Source code mostly
oh yeah, I'm on mac, and I'm really struggling to access taht
slow sonnet
No, what's that?
brave ibex
you can look at the source code from other mods too
silver cobalt
SMODS.Joker {
parameters go brfrfr
}
slow sonnet
you can look at the source code from other mods too
Yeah that's what I'm doing right now
silver cobalt
oh yeah, I'm on mac, and I'm really struggling to access taht
Ok to do it you have to copy balatro.app and name ot balatro.exe
slow sonnet
SMODS.Joker {
parameters go brfrfr
}
Where do i put this
silver cobalt
Thats literally the basis of a joker
If you dont have that you arent making a joker
Just put it anywhere in the tip scope after the header
You should look at the api and smods.center wiki pages to find what to fill it with
Sonce its a table every line ends with a comma inside, except for functions
slow sonnet
Ok to do it you have to copy balatro.app and name ot balatro.exe
I get this problem when I try to do that
remote locust
#1241172556849876993 message OmegaNum Talisman is now reasonable usable. Be Scared.
cold sandal
Fun fact: Ascendant Stake was changed from -1 Joker Slot to -1 Shop Slot
I did a thing
That was conveniently very easy
Though I am surprized that worked first try
brave ibex
Download 7-zip
7-zip is windows only 😔
silver cobalt
Oh seriously?
teal plover
brave ibex
Yeah it says for windows on its website lol
cold sandal
name = "cry-Ascendant Stake",
key = "ascendant",
pos = {x = 3, y = 4},
atlas = "stake",
applied_stakes = {"cry_azure"},
modifiers = function()
change_shop_size(-1)
end,
loc_txt = {
name = "Ascendant Stake",
text = {
"{C:attention}-1{} Slot in shop",
}
},
shiny = true,
color = HEX("ffffff") --temporary before gradients```I feel like there should be something scuffed with that
I feel like that shouldnt work lmao
brave ibex
I’m alr, I can live without it
bruh after doing more testing this thing is compatible with blueprint but not brainstorm
raven wedge
I feel like there should be something scuffed with that
that doesn't look wrong
brave ibex
what the heck is this jank 😭
raven wedge
considering you can just set the card_limit for the shop when the game starts
slow sonnet
Hey Math Is Fun, just found a bug with your mod. WHen you run out of cards, the gaame just sorta crashes
slow sonnet
Yeah it says for windows on its website lol
yeah i tried to download it but its really weird
slow sonnet
I tried that and got balatro.zip.app
You have to right click, then click on get info, and rename it there
cold sandal
Or yk if there is one on mac im not a mac user
Show file extensions
Change it there
slow sonnet
how do you code for the game to end when hand size reaches 100
for i = #G.hand.cars > 100?
teal plover
cars? 
upper pendant
G.hand.vroom
raven wedge
the bug where you play multiple hands at once
lime inlet
i thought that was patched like a loooooooooong time ago
raven wedge
i've experienced it multiple times while testing The Servant of Wrath
remote locust
could be OmegaNum ruining stuff too
lime inlet
lol never thought i'd see this demo bug reappear
hold on i got a stupid thing i wanna try
remote locust
i'll release the OmegaNum version of Talisman if i get permission from MathIsFun_
it's much more fun to be able to see your ee999999999999 than to just see Infinity
remote locust
"that's the anti-cryptid" wins in 1 hand
echo jacinth
Superfinal Boss Blinds (ante=64n):
100% Tax Rate: Hands limited to (blind size)/(number of hands)
Speedrun: ^1.1 blind size every second this run
echo jacinth
true. however the pattern can be interpreted either way. addition and multiplication are commutative operations
remote locust
The clock increases linearly, lavender loop increases exponentially. Speedrun should increase tetrationally
raven wedge
ah yes. let me just carefully plan out my run to get the highest score just to get fucked by a coinflip
echo jacinth
The Roll: applies effects of all rerolled boss blinds
oak herald
"that's the anti-cryptid" *wins in 1 hand*
ee7889
remote locust
yes
oak herald
your thirst for numbers cant be contained
remote locust
it's in the name
raven wedge
there are AD mods??????
remote locust
you are now firmly past any AD mod
What are those?
remote locust
talisman is ee308
oak herald
vanilla ends at e9e15
remote locust
maybe you'll hit endless stairwell levels soon
also what's this?
echo jacinth
what about EpsilonNullNum
oak herald
never heard of it
raven wedge
bignum is enough for cryptid needs
remote locust
although The Tax is pretty bugged
raven wedge
i haven't even reached vanilla naneinf
remote locust
forgot to turn off ping
raven wedge
also grr
remote locust
i haven't even reached vanilla naneinf
but like Cryptid is not vanilla.
it's jokers go way farther
remote locust
im just waiting for MathIsFun to come online to ask for permission to release this
remote locust
:clueless:
well for context, there is an exponential mult joker and many many ways to retrigger jokers
those two combined lead to very large numbers
rapid echo
is omeganum already in cryptid or is this another mod
remote locust
i have a version of Talisman with OmegaNum
rapid echo
oh
wary badger
DNA'd cards that are also consumables dont let me select them ;-;
echo jacinth
The Death: you get 0 hands
lofty surge
The Death: you get 0 hands
must have jokers like burglar to avoid death
raven wedge
it's the tax... but worse!
echo jacinth
i think there's that one boss blind that applies two random effects of previous boss blinds?
what if it chose needle and tax
summer cargo
obsidian orb is banned from combining those two for specifically that reason, i imagine that would be too
upper pendant
it tells you you need to get off gaming and having a grasstouching session
and leave a fist shaped hole on ur screen
echo jacinth
obsidian orb is banned from combining those two for specifically that reason, i ...
this is supposed to be an un-balanced mod
summer cargo
having it just straight up be impossible is less unbalanced and more just not fun
soft night
i think there's that one boss blind that applies two random effects of previous ...
youre thinking of either the currently implemented obsidian orb which applies the effect of every previously faced boss or the still-in-concept-stage galvanic gauntlet which applies two random powers every hand
...hmm
i just got an idea
this could either be really stupid or really interesting
Ivory Icosahedron
- 2x Base. Cards that match the rank and suit of the previously played hand are debuffed every hand. Score per hand capped at 30% Blind requirements.
raven wedge
it doesn't even fit two lines
soft night
if you know what the reference is, congratulations 
slow sonnet
Does anyone know why this doesnt work?
-- Make the game end if there are 0 cards in hand
if #G.GAME.hand.cards == 0 then
G.GAME:end()
end
soft night
it doesn't even fit two lines
feels like there would be a way to make it 2 lines
May not repeat Ranks or Suits in consecutive hands.```microscopic text go
remote locust
slightly better
played ranks and suits banned next hand```that can work
fossil whale
so does this mean that if you start around against this blind with exactly three hands you physically cannot win
I mean admittedly you should probably be able to prepare for it but
fossil whale
epíco
soft night
Blank Space
(2x Base.)
Does nothing?
(On defeat, regain all Hands and boss becomes Spectral Singularity.)
Spectral Singularity
(3x base.)
One Joker sold after every hand played.```
fuck it, we have a blank/antimatter deck, now we have a blank/antimatter BOSScouldnt find a way to incorporate cerulean bell into spectral singularity
if anyone has ideas
clear hare
i'll release the OmegaNum version of Talisman if i get permission from MathIsFun...
Feel free to put it in the Talisman thread, and I can polish and merge it with the main branch of Talisman later
remote locust
k ty
soft night
Oh my god are we getting triple E
summer cargo
i think we're getting more than three es...
karmic bough
Need help
soft night
**Blank Space**
*(2x Base.)*
```Does nothing?```
*(On defeat, regain all Hands ...
any ideas for how Spectral Singularity can take on something from Cerulean Bell?
soft night
I was thinking forcibly selecting a face-down card
clear hare
I will fix this error when I get back from vacation
soft night
Spectral Singularity
(3x Base.)
One Joker sold after every hand played.```here we go
karmic bough
Thx. Well forced to remove the mod temporarily then
granite ibex
Azure Awakening for the slay the spire reference
soft night
i was thinking that
but i realized the blank/antimatter connection was too good not to go with
adding BS/SS to concept sheet
loud harness
Crash always happens:
- When players are playing higher than Pink Stake (Increase the ante scaling 3rd time).
- During the gameplay, they click Options -> Collections -> Blinds
- The game will guaranteed crash.
soft night
will sprite BS and SS later
remote locust
Oh my god are we getting triple E
im still working out some stuff in the code to be sure it is doing the math correctly.
loud harness
Crash happens when engaging Levander Loop.
dusty plover
i forget does joker retriggering retrigger the scaling of scaling jokers
brave ibex
ye
remote locust
k ty
It's here, #1241172556849876993 message be afraid
upper pendant
crash in Stakes.lua
amount.m = math.floor(10*amount.m)/10
said attempt to index local 'amount' (a number value)
playing Pink Stake going to ante 9
raven wedge
Crash always happens:
1. When players are playing higher than Pink Stake (Increa...
yup reported here
upper pendant
oak herald
upper pendant
cant figure out about the .m
remote locust
BigNum stuff
raven wedge
m
oak herald
must be the m joker leaking
remote locust
it's the mantissa
upper pendant
googling mantissa
remote locust
2e11
upper pendant
😭
clear hare
Cryptid blinds broke in the last Steamodded patch
Either disable that part of the mod, or play on the Steamodded version in the GitHub release
Will patch when I get back from vacation
cold sandal
First thing i did after downloading new release lmao
Bloody Card + Sus + DNA + Canvas
Crazy combo
wise field
Hey there's been something I've thought of for a while now
What if stakes changed the pool of blinds
Like black stake could remove the house but add the trick or something
clear hare
Interesting
fallow thistle
If I submitted suggestions into the old Suggestion Box, can I add them into the Recent Suggestion Box?
summer cargo
?? why is my death not deathing
karmic bough
12 pog, how would that work
summer cargo
effectively 5 if you're not using antimatter deck
it just turns the left 11 4 cards into the right 1
cold sandal
Chili Pepper incorrectly displays as incompatible for blueprint
summer cargo
misprint deck gave me this so i've been having a very fun run with that
- incantation to allow me to hold all these deaths
👍
celest tinsel
stake idea: (idk name) all blinds are boss blinds and all boss blinds are final bosses
lime inlet
i had funny question
with blank deck on ante 0 small blind
how many jokers can you have and still lose?
clear hare
(Buys every utility and conditional joker in the game) Yes
lime inlet
you can also get away with all the jokers that buff specific hands(cause high card)
also consumables are allowed but only the default amount of slots
ngl i might need to make notes so i don't forget
like ceremonial dagger
oak herald
stake idea: (idk name) all blinds are boss blinds and all boss blinds are final ...
so every blind is a final boss blind? /j
lime inlet
also just because efficare is allowed
weak burrow
stake idea: (idk name) all blinds are boss blinds and all boss blinds are final ...
Isn't that just boss rush? I think we do have that as a planned stake
celest tinsel
~~so every blind is a final boss blind? /j~~
big blind is just a normal boss
lime inlet
i had funny question
with blank deck on ante 0 small blind
how many jokers can y...
bruh this is all i have and it's hella long
Before Blind:
- Ceremonial Dagger is rightmost
In Blind:
- Blueprint is at rightmost
Playing Hand:
- Must play 5 cards(Half Joker/Square Joker)
- Must play High Card (Every single scoring Hand based Joker/Obelisk)
- Can only play 9s and 7s (Fibo/Hack/Walkie Talkie/Even Steven/Scary Face/Photograph)
- No played cards with 1 rank-gaps (Shortcut)
- No 4 cards that can make a Straight/Flush (Four Fingers)
- Can't play [Random Suit] (Ancient Joker)
- Can't play Clubs/Spades (Onyx Agate/Arrowhead)
Other:
- No Kings held in hand (Baron)
- Hearts/Diamonds always held in hand (Blackboard)
- # of Cards >= 52 (Erosion)```so wtf is blank deck
clear hare
Does nothing?
lime inlet
trying to lose with as many jokers as possible might be harder than i thought
and i thought it was hard
raven wedge
how ? is the ?
lime inlet
yes
brave ibex
bruh this is all i have and it's hella long
```Rules:
Before Blind:
- Ceremoni...
“Must play 5 cards” and “can only play 7s and 9s” contradict with “can only play high card”
lime inlet
no
i forgot to be specific with that
7s and 9s part
i meant only 7s and 9s can be scored
brave ibex
Skull
lime inlet
:)
summer cargo
how ? is the ?
it's not ? at all, it does nothing
it's like the blank voucher in that it's metaprogression
lime inlet
most of these rules might change since my strategy for these jokers will change overtime
from what im seeing you can only score a 7/9 of Diamonds
lime inlet
the rules are specifically so i know what to do
for the jokers that i don't need to pay any attention to i won't include
brave ibex
discard for banner then
lime inlet
the problem is that for discarding there are a lot of paths you can take
im still developing a strategy for these jokers
banner might be included or not in the final strat, idk
brave ibex
it's just banner and mystic summit that are relevant tbh, most others aren't relevant
lime inlet
i can probably use jokers like vagabond to my advantage tbh
sadly fortune teller might be a problem
brave ibex
vagabond doesn't really do anything though
lime inlet
it can give tarots that allow me to get more diamonds(diamonds are really the only suit you can play)
also strength for more 7s and 9s to play
cold sandal
bruh this is all i have and it's hella long
```Rules:
Before Blind:
- Ceremoni...
Would Misprint work or can it just not roll 0 a bunch of times in a row
brave ibex
bubble m
lime inlet
Would Misprint work or can it just not roll 0 a bunch of times in a row
even ignoring luck misprint's lowest is a 1 and considering this is ANTE 0 it still might screw the strat up
brave ibex
1/23 though 💀
lime inlet
(3 because troubadour)
lime inlet
idk
cold sandal
And if there can be multiple of a joker
Just put at the end of your joker slots Augmen, Rekoj, Augmen
Set chips and mult both to 1
lime inlet
oh yea did i mention no duplicates
might've forgot
there are alot of things i left out
cold sandal
Because more jokers effect mult than chips you can crank up mult extremely high then just have Rekoj Augmen at the end
Just keep your chip count low before that
And if these jokers get added get seeking and speaking joker
Only one hand will count
clear hare
I realized something funny
Critical Deck synergizes with Oops! All 6s
With 4 of them you can always get ^2 Mult
cold sandal
Wouldn't you also hit the ^0.5 Mult
cold sandal
Just keep your chip count low before that
Even further, before Rekoj Augmen have Good Cop, Bad Cop (On decreasing Chips, increasing Mult) followed by Canvas
You might not even score a single point
With Overestimation {voucher} you can also double the blind requirements lmao
Also if you had gotten a Locked {Curse from The Vault} 7 or 9 it'll be debuffed
Or from Lost Socks
Then Pareidolia can also be there
jaunty scarab
AYO
cold sandal
What do they do
clear hare
idk
cold sandal
hmm
cold sandal
Pride, Honor, Courage, Victory, Knowledge
clear hare
Also Victoria is purple but the light was dying so you can’t see it
violet egret
clear hare
That feels like a mouthful lol
fallow thistle
Chariot Deck art
clear hare
I have a pretty good run going right now
Update: I beat The Plant
cold sandal
kinda hard to lose with victoria
clear hare
With Victoria it’s basically a free win
If you try and lose it’ll give you $1000 and duplicate all your jokers
cold sandal
I tried to do a thing
It appears in game just doesnt do anything lmao
The bottom part is 100% where its scuffed cause i just took the code from ceremonial dagger and changed some values
It probably doesn't even get checked lmao
Either that or i missed a part of the ceremonial dagger code
Looks crazy with editions
clear hare
Maybe because my_pos isn’t defined?
Also needs to be wrapped around a check (the same context M uses)
brave ibex
m
cold sandal
wow i wonder what happened here thats crazy
summer cargo
nice
scenic pumice
misprint deck was a mistake
cold sandal
Happy accidents
lime inlet
i managed to lose with 58 unique jokers(efficare doesn't count since only vanilla)
i thought i need 2 tarots but i only needed one
fun fact this doesn't include troubadour which actually makes this easier
summer cargo
with lobcorp you have access to a x0.1 mult joker which you can canvas into oblivion to effectively eliminate score
assuming you don't have any flat +mult jokers at least
lime inlet
"assuming you don't have any flat +mult jokers at least"
i have like 40 of them
i just have to play extremely specific hands to not activate any of them
brave ibex
there's also a lobcorp joker that gives -hands so use that and timer stall with all jokers 
soft night
oh are you trying to see with how many jokers you can lose with
lime inlet
yea
lime inlet
those are all the jokers that i should be careful with
the other jokers that i don't need to pay attention towards won't be there
soft night
o
lime inlet
im giving myself efficare so i don't need to worry about deck rng bs
im not gonna add stuff like misprint and space jkr cause luck
brave ibex
space joker procs ahould'nt make a difference in ante 1 small blind tbh
if ante 0 i'm pretty sure you still lose with three hands and 1 proc
assuming no other jokers activate
lime inlet
it's still ante 0 im just too lazy using redeo or save file manip each attempt
Luck
- Castle/Ancient Jkr (3/4)
- Space Jkr (3/4 ^ 3)
- Misprint (1/24 ^ 3)
- Mail-in Rebate (12/13)
- The Idol (1/52)
Total = (3/4 ^ 5)*(1/24 ^ 3)*(1/52)*(12/13)```about 3e-7
brave ibex
rebate moment
lime inlet
or about .0000304724338%
yea this run is not existing in game
oh wait
forgot stuff
i forgor it's actually 51/52
wow that is surprisingly good odds
still not happening
0.001554094%
this question is so complicated bruh
raven wedge
Luck
```
- Castle/Ancient Jkr (3/4)
- Space Jkr (3/4 ^ 3)
- Misprint (1/24 ^ 3)
...
why is idol 1/52 lmao
brave ibex
what do yall think of this effect 🤔
teal plover
why is it a common 
raven wedge
where the fuck did M come from
brave ibex
why is it a common <:why:1089763686719168562>
mostly because it does nothing without those jollys xd
maybe uncommon then
teal plover
mostly because it does nothing without those jollys xd
then why is "m" and "M" epic
brave ibex
m is epic puerly for memes, M is epic because it can give lots of value with synergies like gift card, swashbuckler, abstract, campfire etc
on top of m synergy
probably will make this uncommon and go to sleep though
teal plover
so in theory, M Stack should be epic as well
4 retriggers per played card when it's max is quite a big deal
echo jacinth
Imaginary Joker: Takes up i joker slots. +4i mult, -30i chips
remote locust
Jimaginary Joker: j joker slots x4j Chips ^2j mult
echo jacinth
clearly it's something
raven wedge
if you play on the challenge that permanently debuffs your cards, you can get Raised Fist
lime inlet
i mean on the brightside it gave me +69 points
cold sandal
Blank Deck
lime inlet
i still have no idea how bootstrap triggers with 3$
lime inlet
m
im kinda surprised nobody did the nostalgic bosses
most of them are simple "Can't do X hand" bosses
wary badger
huh why are these cryptid
raven wedge
cryptid took ownership of those
umbral dagger
cryptid also stole green joker
clear hare
we'll see when math merges the pull request <:balatrojoker:1139524811421405224>
Maybe buff to 1, remove cap, make epic
oak herald
m superiority
loud harness
Crash happens when engaging when engaging Obsidian Orb.
Lavender Loop, Obsidian Orb, Noir Silence all have the same crash message:[string "C:\Users\twst9\AppData\Roaming\Balatro\Mods/C..."]:451: attempt to index local 'amount' (a number value)
upper pendant
math should prob write a mod that shows a progress bar of the vacay in game for cryptid and talisman users
upper pendant
😭
upper pendant
Crash happens when engaging when engaging Obsidian Orb.
Lavender Loop, Obsidian ...
so i guess you can just avoid modded stakes for now
rapid echo
zamn
loud harness
so i guess you can just avoid modded stakes for now
Obsidian Orb still crashes even I disabled more stakes and Talisman, but with another message.
However, after disabling more stakes and Talisman, Lavender Loop & Noir Silence can work properly.
upper pendant
brah just let math enjoy the rest of the vacay😭🗣️💥
and ive already chosen to stay in vanilla stakes
clear hare
Obsidian Orb still crashes even I disabled more stakes and Talisman, but with an...
Downgrade Steamodded, blind API got changed
Known and will be fixed when I get back
Thanks for the crash reports btw, they’re good to have
empty fern
Downgrade Steamodded, blind API got changed
so, what steamodded do we use?
clear hare
Use the one in the release of Cryptid
empty fern
alr neat
cold sandal
idk
Its got something to do with the highlighted part most likely (It's another piece from ceremonial daggers code that looked important I just dont know where to put it if it even belongs here at all)
clear hare
Compare against card, not self
cold sandal
It did something different this time
mental tiger
I don’t think you can juice up a joker unless that’s a consumable and im dumb
cold sandal
hell yeah i can (I had Tenebris to the left)
clear hare
card: not self:
clear hare
Check if it’s defined first before calling it
I think Talisman does some things with juice_up
cold sandal
Cant exactly find / dont exactly understand what you mean by that but closest thing i found with my current (not very high level of) understanding is this (which is in Waluigi)
Also interesting choice for a name here
oak herald
hell yeah i can (I had Tenebris to the left)
does this round down, up, or nearest
cold sandal
No
It's xMult so it doesn't really need to
Exotics just sell for a conveniently divisible by 5 number
weak burrow
light theme
cold sandal
summer cargo
no longer ballin
summer cargo
Cool voucher pack
deep kite
does compound interest work? I'm trying to use it and it doesn't seem to in the current build
vestal seal
works for me on latest release
summer cargo
So TIL having a decimal ante requirement just straight up means you cannot win
This might need to be patched by Cryptid
i should have won by now but i have not
because ante never == ante requirement
subtle nova
This also probably means no final bosses ever
summer cargo
Yeah it kept giving me normal blinds
empty fern
decided to try something different today!
soft night
JESUS
remote locust
that's not much
celest tinsel
my luck is a wee bit high
i got this error when i played a hand on the obsidian orb
brave ibex
@oak herald it's done
soft night
if we're doing contributor legends then
Hexa (Legendary)
This Joker gains ^0.06 Mult per 6 scored. (Starts at ^1)
soft night
also, suggestion for 454:
Create a Negative copy of RUSH E
echo jacinth
Deck idea: Only select 2 cards. Straights, Flushes, and Five of a Kinds only require 2 cards
soft night
wh
echo jacinth
Source: it came to me in a dream
soft night
De (Deck)
Only 2 cards can be selected. All Flushes and Straights can be played with 2 cards. Two Pairs, Three of a Kinds, Full Houses, Four of a Kinds, Flush Houses, Five of a Kinds, and all associated items are removed. Base Chips and Mult are tripled.
jaunty scarab
Maybe someday I can cook something as fire as this in a dream…
All I can think of is a D100 Joker.
echo jacinth
**De** (Deck)
Only 2 cards can be selected. All Flushes and Straights can be pla...
no, five of a kind is pair
and 4finger makes any card a straight flush
remote locust
oops
echo jacinth
this is not the time for jokes.
remote locust
i thought i was in Sheet Suggestions mb
echo jacinth
All I can think of is a D100 Joker.
chip misprint
no wait this is cryptid. that's xmult misprint
remote locust
there should totally be an ^Mult edition someday
brave ibex
i got this error when i played a hand on the obsidian orb
forgot to reply to this xd, rn newest steamodded update broke blinds so you have to wait for math to return to fix it
or disable them in cryptid
loud harness
Sometimes, you discussed about CCC Mod. What’s CCC mean?
upper pendant
CelestialCardCollection
it breaks betmma vouchers and fusion jokers and maybe more mods that contains stuff like .node[1].node[1] in the code
but i dont feel like reporting it i just deleted it
oak herald
<@186860917852471296> <:balatrojoker:1139524811421405224> it's done
yippi
loud harness
CelestialCardCollection
Where can I get it?
upper pendant
github
teal plover
retrigger on universum makes infinity on hands far too easy to reach now, lol
remote locust
very low levels
oak herald
retrigger on universum makes infinity on hands far too easy to reach now, lol
man infinity at only level 27k?
remote locust
OmegaNum talisman advertising sound effects
teal plover
man infinity at only level 27k?
i've reached infinity as early as level ~200
teal plover
*OmegaNum talisman advertising sound effects*
don't lecture me with your thirty-dollar lua mathematics library
remote locust
i don't think omeganum costs money
oak herald
i had a random idea to make a card out of this suddenly
weak burrow
also idk if omeganum was bugged for me but i had a level 4000 flush with omeganum and the hand score was 1 x 1
with universum
soft night
"lol fuck you, curse of One"
weak burrow
cryptid moment
remote locust
odd
weak burrow
btw idk if something is wrong with your version or something else within my modded version of balatro but i keep getting the score rising animation even with the omeganum version of talisman
the red box
now even the red box keeps rising
like the cards arent moving but i can tell theyre being retriggered cuz of iterum
remote locust
i think someone else complained about that, but im not sure
weak burrow
the blue chips box also keeps rising
weak burrow
i mean without a crash log i cant really tell whats going on
but the game isnt crashing
teal plover
this might call for some verbose debugging
clear hare
Talisman doesn’t remove 100% of animations which sometimes results in that
If you send me a savefile I can debug
Will push out a big update to Talisman anyway to merge the OmegaNum port with it
severe mesa
while we're both here I wanna ask something
was talisman removing the joker wiggle intentional in previous versions? if not then has it been fixed?
clear hare
I’ll fix it in the next update
grim tendon
Vanilla Victor: All modded enhancements/editions/seals removed from played cards, all modded jokers debuffed
true harness
Vanilla Victor: All modded enhancements/editions/seals removed from played cards...
too detrimental
cruel blinds are much less painful than that
dusty python
is the only way to get an exotic joker without equilibrium deck/antimatter through gateway?
brave ibex
yeah
dusty python
ok
cold sandal
Until ADHD Joker {But the exotics it makes don't last forever}
clear hare
nice
ok just pushed out steamodded 0625a compat (surely no bosses will crash the game now)
oak herald
lavender loop scary
clear hare
going to try adding editions later (because they sound cool)
oak herald
after 12 seconds its as strong ss violet vessel
after 28, its as strong as whitenight
clear hare
gotta go fast
dusty plover
would the play on lavender loop be either slow game speed or fast
clear hare
fast
and enable talisman animation disabler
scaling is affected by real time, not game time
silver cobalt
is the only way to get an exotic joker without equilibrium deck/antimatter throu...
Wormhole deck, key of equilibrium
silver cobalt
now let's see how good ChatGPT is at writing shader code
Wait how exactly do shaders work?
clear hare
different coding lang
silver cobalt
Oh, what lang
clear hare
GLSL
so far none of the AI's attempts to make a shader have worked without crashing
echo jacinth
is that square joker
grim tendon
looks like an earthbound background
clear hare
looks really goofy at certain angles
ok I tried prompting the AI a certain way
let's see if it can cook
getting closer
silver cobalt
https://github.com/vrld/moonshine/blob/master/gaussianblur.lua heres a bunch of stock shaders
Maybe you could do something with them
clear hare
silver cobalt
Not it
silver cobalt
Try making it not fade away at certain x and y values
clear hare
going to ask claude to make it blue-ish as well (to signify chips)
it made it so much worse 😢
clear hare
lol
jagged garden
Jimball no....
clear hare
he's trapped in the matrix
clear hare
Learn glsl
this is more fun tbh
I think I realized the issue that made it weird
it's multiplying by like a sine curve
so it's 0 sometimes
jagged garden
Watch out people are gonna write "MathIsFun moment"
oak herald
this is a certified Roguefort Cookie message
clear hare
SDM_0 moment
oak herald
the m joker family when
silver cobalt
Eventually
brave ibex
it made it so much worse 😢
that kinda fits in with expo lol
loud harness
ok just pushed out steamodded 0625a compat (surely no bosses will crash the game...
With or without Talisman’s increase scoring limit?
And your challenge repeat appeared once in the game, can you check it too?
brave ibex
last one for now, gonna submit the pull request
upper pendant
got this crash from mathblinds's witness blind https://mclo.gs/XzOblph from obsidian orb. can be a compat issue
cold sandal
hehe
stark charm
cold sandal
Wacky goofy
cold sandal
List of stuff I've got so far:
Unjust Dagger
Destroys Joker to the left and gains 1/5th of its sell value as xmult
Monkey Dagger
Destroys Joker to the left and gains 5x its sell value as +chips
Pirate Dagger
Destroys Joker to the right and gains 1/2 its sell value as xchips
Dagger War
Start with all 4 Daggers and 5 Negative Gift Cards (All Eternal), Lock is banned
Ascendant Stake Change
Now it's -1 shop slot
brave ibex
Are those from existing mods 🧐
clear hare
ended up working on Mosaic shader based on the Holographic shader
now I just need to make it blue (and a bit stronger)
didn't quite mean to do this (but it looks better)
nvm it looks so bad on other jokers
scenic pumice
ough
no
maybe you could make it distort stuff intsead of tinting it?
maybe also make it bluer as you were planning
clear hare
it's weird because I'm turning it from red to blue and that's hard somehow
vestal seal
List of stuff I've got so far:
Unjust Dagger
Destroys Joker to the left and gain...
isnt pirate dagger unjust but better
brave ibex
Chocolate bar
clear hare
it contains JOKER 3 times
setting a new record
ok I think claude might be able to make a good oversaturated shader
since that's simpler
clear hare
i had to manually make a shader for mosaic
silver cobalt
Id love to lean glsl but also i think it would kill me
summer cargo
if youre doing enhancements i have another stupid idea
Glitched - all values on this card are randomised (as if it were a Misprint deck fueled card)
i might be able to poke at a shader for it depending on what glsl this uses
clear hare
how does this version of the effect look?
I know with manual pixel editing people were doing it with RGB but this is with HSV so it's a bit different
actually screw it let's use RGB so it's even more apparent
raven wedge
deep fried jimbo
clear hare
don't think this is how it works
clear hare
dusk when the sun swallows the earth
true harness
so true 
clear hare
summer cargo
clear hare
turns out I'm dumb and this is in HSL not HSV
ok I think this is working
just need to make it a bit stronger
one more page for display purposes
summer cargo
still got some glsl knowledge (shadertoy sandboxing)
i can't find any actual shader files in the game files but it shouldn't be that hard to port over
clear hare
glitched shader/edition would be awesome
all the shaders are in assets/shaders in game files
summer cargo
hmm. might take a bit of rejigging to get working ingame
clear hare
vec4 effect( vec4 colour, Image texture, vec2 texture_coords, vec2 screen_coords )
{
vec4 tex = Texel(texture, texture_coords);
vec2 uv = (((texture_coords)*(image_details)) - texture_details.xy*texture_details.ba)/texture_details.ba;
tex = RGB(hsl);
tex.rgb = increaseContrast(tex.rgb,4);
return dissolve_mask(tex*colour, texture_coords, uv);
}
Here's like the bare bones version of an effect (increaseContrast defined elsewhere)
raven wedge
still got some glsl knowledge (shadertoy sandboxing)
let me guess, notitg stuff
summer cargo
Yeah
this isn't borrowed from an nitg shader apart from the float rand function but
celest tinsel
their should be some form of spectral that adds a random edition to a joker nomater what. so if i have 5 polycrome jokers and it gives holographit to one it will be a +10mult 1.5xmult instead of just 1.5xmult. or some other way to stack editions
clear hare
summer cargo
noooot what i was going for but interesting
clear hare
feel free to send it when it's done, I can code the logic for Glitched in the meantime
tysm for making it too
summer cargo
There's probably an easier way to playtest this than overwriting the polychrome shader but...
clear hare
not rly
summer cargo
especially since it,uh, doesn't work
clear hare
try reverting
clear hare
not sure what exactly bugs it out but you have to use it in a certain way even for temp logic
oversaturated jimball
summer cargo
and im guessing all the edition shaders have this "logic"
clear hare
when I port it I can just rename polychrome to glitched
summer cargo
i mean the way i wrote the code it shouldn't be using an extern at all beyond time
float rand(vec2 co){
return fract(sin(dot(co.xy ,vec2(12.9898,78.233))) * 43758.5453);
}
vec4 effect( vec4 colour, Image texture, vec2 texture_coords, vec2 screen_coords )
{
vec2 texCoordsR = texture_coords;
vec2 texCoordsG = texture_coords;
vec2 texCoordsB = texture_coords;
texCoordsR.x += (-0.02 * rand(vec2(time, texCoordsR.y)));
texCoordsB.x += (0.02 * rand(vec2(time, texCoordsB.y)));
vec4 texR = Texel(texture, texCoordsR);
vec4 texG = Texel(texture, texCoordsG);
vec4 texB = Texel(texture, texCoordsB);
vec2 uvr = (((texCoordsR)*(image_details)) - texture_details.xy*texture_details.ba)/texture_details.ba;
vec2 uvg = (((texCoordsG)*(image_details)) - texture_details.xy*texture_details.ba)/texture_details.ba;
vec2 uvb = (((texCoordsB)*(image_details)) - texture_details.xy*texture_details.ba)/texture_details.ba;
vec4 tex = vec4(texR.r, texG.g, texB.b, texR.a);
return dissolve_mask(tex*colour, texture_coords, uvg);
}
vec4 effect( vec4 colour, Image texture, vec2 texture_coords, vec2 screen_coords )
{
vec4 tex = Texel(texture, texture_coords);
vec2 uv = (((texture_coords)(image_details)) - texture_details.xytexture_details.ba)/texture_details.ba;
number low = min(tex.r, min(tex.g, tex.b));
number high = max(tex.r, max(tex.g, tex.b));
number delta = high - low;
number saturation_fac = 1. - max(0., 0.05*(1.1-delta));
vec4 hsl = HSL(vec4(tex.r*saturation_fac, tex.g*saturation_fac, tex.b, tex.a));
float t = oversat.y*2.221 + time;
vec2 floored_uv = (floor((uv*texture_details.ba)))/texture_details.ba;
vec2 uv_scaled_centered = (floored_uv - 0.5) * 50.;
vec2 field_part1 = uv_scaled_centered + 50.*vec2(sin(-t / 143.6340), cos(-t / 99.4324));
vec2 field_part2 = uv_scaled_centered + 50.*vec2(cos( t / 53.1532), cos( t / 61.4532));
vec2 field_part3 = uv_scaled_centered + 50.*vec2(sin(-t / 87.53218), sin(-t / 49.0000));
float field = (1.+ (
cos(length(field_part1) / 19.483) + sin(length(field_part2) / 33.155) * cos(field_part2.y / 15.73) +
cos(length(field_part3) / 27.193) * sin(field_part3.x / 21.92) ))/2.;
float res = (.5 + .5* cos( (oversat.x) * 2.612 + ( field + -.5 ) *3.14));
tex = RGB(hsl);
tex.rgb = increaseContrast(tex.rgb,4);
return dissolve_mask(tex*colour, texture_coords, uv);
}
here's my full effect function for oversaturate, most of it is garbage yoinked from polychrome shader that isn't used
but it works
because I use oversat
summer cargo
it came up with the glitched result i posted earlier when i just copypasted all the polychrome code above my code then ignored the results
clear hare
maybe tex is modified?
or because it's a dissolve_mask
or because only uvg is used?
summer cargo
uvg should be equivalent to the normal uv since its x coordinate isn't modified
raven wedge
oversaturated jimball
oh god oversaturated and amplified
clear hare
this might help?
ok it should be implemented properly
rn oversaturated shader is used temporarily
summer cargo
okay i finally got it to stop crashing by just bludgeoning in some throwaway values
now to fix the other issues
clear hare
hmmm
summer cargo
thousand hands attack
clear hare
waluigi is very happy rn
raven wedge
🐟
clear hare
looks awesome!
summer cargo
vec4 effect( vec4 colour, Image texture, vec2 texture_coords, vec2 screen_coords )
{
float POLY_THROWAWAY = (.5 + .5* cos( (negative.x) * 2.612 + ( 0.2 + -.5 ) *3.14));
float POLY_THROWAWAY_2 = POLY_THROWAWAY + negative.y * 0.04;
vec2 texCoordsR = texture_coords;
vec2 texCoordsG = texture_coords;
vec2 texCoordsB = texture_coords;
float iTime = tan(2. * time);
texCoordsR.x += (0.004 * rand(vec2(iTime, texCoordsR.y))) + (POLY_THROWAWAY * 0.0000001);
texCoordsG.x += (0.007 * rand(vec2(iTime, texCoordsG.y))) + (POLY_THROWAWAY * 0.0000001);
texCoordsB.x += (0.010 * rand(vec2(iTime, texCoordsB.y))) + (POLY_THROWAWAY_2 * 0.0000001);
vec4 texR = Texel(texture, texCoordsR);
vec4 texG = Texel(texture, texCoordsG);
vec4 texB = Texel(texture, texCoordsB);
vec2 uvr = (((texCoordsR)*(image_details)) - texture_details.xy*texture_details.ba)/texture_details.ba;
vec2 uvg = (((texCoordsG)*(image_details)) - texture_details.xy*texture_details.ba)/texture_details.ba;
vec2 uvb = (((texCoordsB)*(image_details)) - texture_details.xy*texture_details.ba)/texture_details.ba;
vec2 uv = (((texture_coords)*(image_details)) - texture_details.xy*texture_details.ba)/texture_details.ba;
vec4 tex = vec4(texR.r, texG.g, texB.b, texR.a);
return dissolve_mask(tex*colour, texture_coords, uv);
}
what would you call it
clear hare
glitched
summer cargo
"Glitched"
summer cargo
ok it should be implemented properly
rn oversaturated shader is used temporarily
its already been implemented
brave ibex
straight from the backrooms
clear hare
for most modded jokers the shader just... doesn't work
brave ibex
try ingame
clear hare
clear hare
works with every exotic tho
brave ibex
maybe the coords are incompatible? seems weird
brave ibex
works with every exotic tho
oh i wanna see expo with glitched
clear hare
brave ibex
I did design it with that glitch effect in mind lol
clear hare
not much of a difference since only bottom layer is affected
I imagine a chromatic/hue shift could also add to the effect
also redeo oversaturated looks nice
brave ibex
i don't thin a hue shift would really make sense xd
chromatic though seems interesting
clear hare
@summer cargo do you know why the shader could be failing on most modded jokers