#Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]
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Math what do you think of these decks?
They’re good
what's the max amount of rounds that I need to wait for error?
I think it should be rental instead of perishable for the usable deck though
Otherwise it might be a bit too strong
10 (save for misprint/antimatter deck)
alr
The only dependency for this is Talisman, right?
Reposting this so I can make it easier to link in the sheet
Risk Roll Deck:
Rerolling the shop instead awards a random card. Rolling costs $8 and doesn't increase.
-1/2 Chance for a Joker
—1/3 Chance for a Common
—1/5 Chance for an Uncommon
—1/7 Chance for a Rare
—1/9 Chance for an Epic
—1/9 Chance for a Legendary
—95/945 Chance for an Exotic
—1/945 Chance for an Eternal Jimball that acts like the DVD Logo and plays Funky Town. It won't take up a Joker Slot, but it won't give its effect either {The Eternal Sticker is hidden}
-1/4 Chance for a Booster Pack
—1/2 Chance for a Regular Pack
—1/3 Chance for a Jumbo Pack
—1/6 Chance for a Mega Pack
—Pack type is equal (Spectral, Arcana, etc.)
-1/8 Chance for Ancient Runes (Tablet Thing)
—1/2 Chance for Regular Size
—2/5 Chance for Double Size
—1/10 Chance for Triple Size
-1/16 Chance to make all Jokers and Consumables Negative
-1/32 Chance to Square Money
-1/32 Chance to Rickroll the player
i read that as rick roll deck
it does have a chance to rickroll you
would be better if it also had a chance to spawn a dubuffed eternal negative jimball
just add to the chaos
even better
how long until ee308
make it look normal (undebuffed, no edition, no sticker) and have it roll around the screen randomly but still do absolutely nothing other than play funkytown for the rest of the run
Volatile Deck
The cards played in your last hand of each round are destroyed. All Blinds give $4 extra. Start run with the Illusion Voucher.
what do we think chat
Oh that reminds me of something
Reshuffle {Common}:
After cards are played, they're returned to the bottom of your deck.
I had that idea last night but never got to posting it lmao
Extremely Volatile Deck
All cards played are destroyed. All Blinds give $20 extra. Start run with the Illusion Voucher.
Super Ultra Extra Insanely Volatile Deck:
All Played, Discarded, Or Held in Hand at the end of round Cards are destroyed. All blinds give $150 extra. start run with magic trick and illusion vouchers {joke}
Finally got Balatro on Steam, Time for cryptid gaming 🗣️ 🔥
Starting your Balatro experience with Cryptid is based
I got it on xbox on release lol but this is first balatro pc gaming 😎
lol
Black MIDI (Challenge)
Start run with Eternal Polychrome Blackboard, Eternal Triplet Rhythm, and Eternal RUSH E. Start with 26 Spades and 26 Clubs, and all numbered cards are 3s. 5x (maybe higher?) base Blind size.
wdyt math
what does rush e do?
RUSH E (Legendary)
- Unleashes incomprehensible insanity once per Joker and Joker Edition you have that contains the letter E in its name.
- +Chips at -20~60
- +Mult at -5~30
- +Money at -5~30
- XChips at 1~20
- XMult at 1~20
- ^Mult at 1.1~1.5
- Maybe?: ^^Mult at 1.001~1.003
- Retrigger previous Joker
- Retrigger last played card
- Apply an Edition to a card in hand
- Spawn a Negative planet card
- Create a copy of last played card
- Retrigger itself and E (basically a dud hit LOL)```
Good
made blackboard polychrome so it can proc RUSH E
Does it not work with Eternal or something?
eternal is not an edition
Ok I need to read Rush E again lmao
yes
Additional effect idea (if possible): render all letter Es in red
what number do you need to get infinity
Or about 1 followed by 200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Zeros
If im not mistaken
1 followed by 1.7969e308 zeros
Eventually with ADHD Joker effect 151 we're gonna need like eeeeeeeee or something
Not retriggering the retriggering of Jokers part but it should be retriggering the retriggering of cards
gentlemen
ok
i think that might as well be passive
why are some of my exponentias scaling faster than others
the all started at the same value
Double Scale does that when duping Jokers that have been Double Scale'd
ok
It probably doesn’t keep the double scale attributes
Which tell it what the original scaling was
So any duped joker will scale faster
If you have Double Scale, and a Scaling Joker {Will be using Wee Joker for this example} that has been scaled by Double Scale to gain +32 Chips whenever a 2 is scored, then duplicating that Wee Joker will make Double Scale make the Wee Joker gain +32 Extra Chips rather than +8
Which makes it scale
A lot faster
It’s probably worth fixing at some point
But I’d have to refactor a lot of the double scale code
shouldnt this get infinity in 1 trigger
universum on antimatter deck is crashing my game when using a planet card
Maybe but it isn't guaranteed {Especially if you have 1 mult}
Infinity is now 10^10^308
Universum is bugged rn
If copied especially
ah ok
how much is that
ok figured this out
but can't figure out how to run the game ugh
double scale is busted :D
in other news, water is wet
true, and blue is greener than purple
uhm ackshually neither are green at all /j
True, However, On the color wheel Blue is closer to Green than Purple is. When going from Purple to Green on a color wheel through the shortest possible distance, you have to go through Blue
i didn't even think that complicated lol
i just said it bc blue + yellow = green
and there is no purple
funny jonkler idea
If [random card that can exist] is destroyed, create an Exotic Joker, card changes each ante
for example: Red seal Foil Lucky Six of Hearts?
yup
found white hole through omen globe lmao
what if there was a sticker that forced you to purchase it even if you can't for obvious reasons
like you'd go in debt or replace an item if there are no slots left
Eternal Chili Pepper
Death Wish Deck - Every Blind is a Boss Blind
Golden Deck - All cards are Gold cards
Blueprint Deck - Undecided
Soul Deck - Start run with a Soul card
All enhancement decks have been done but the rest are nice
blueprint deck can prob retrigger all jokers or smth
the horror, the h o r r o r
is that a cult of the lamb reference
it's one of my OCs, the same guy you see in my profile avatar
yes, they are based on CotL
jokler
Retrigger payout if $ has been lower than 0 in the last 3 rounds
Gains +10 mult for every 6 played, Gains X0.25 mult if a hand contains exactly 4 cards
also what mod is that card from
Fidget spinner displays the upgrade text when it shouldn’t lol
dear god...
whats the description of that joker
i need to know
or ^2 mult
sure, here you go
whats the actual mechanic
does it just set mult to infinity
retrigger all jokers 66 times, each joker gives ^6.66 mult
scary
it's a way to express the player's lust for power
the 5 speculos i have:
we need an actual mechanic for tarot playing cards
tbh imo 100 100 frfr all that other stuff Canvas is still better
{joke}
canvas is literally obsolete with kosmos
what if blueprint
Pair it with Canvas for eee308
no use speculo 
can't go that high unless if the bignumber system is changed to support higher numbers
we need levels of infinite here
so eee308 would be f3
the largest bignumber system that exists can support 10{1000}9e15
wa
yk when the numbers are big when not even calculators can comprehend it
{2} is tetration (^^), {3} is pentation (^^^), so try and imagine {1000}
wheres the scarred emoji
where is this in my normal games 😭
Immensely Balanced Deck
and everything but perkeo on abandoned deck
I love getting lock spectral in my normal games
2x
just a a color change? cringe /j
so autowin is purple
Real Autowin Deck
ah
2x
real autowin on highest stake
For more info...
The color wheel is off-centered
honestly, i was expecting the scale to progressively lean further and further towards the hole before it just falls in
that would be a hilarious detail
nah, the detail would've beaten the names
imagine the final deck
Tutorial Deck
Are You Fucking Insane Deck
Applies the downsides of every deck and doubles them.
VFD alone makes it impossible
You wouldn't be able to play a single card
with that 1 hand you'd be playing golden needle: hard mode
you'd have to get a good straight, flush, full house, 4oak, or straight flush to survive
you'd 100% be forced into high card
anything else is just asking for rng to screw you over
you'd have to hope you get burglar instantly too
Also
All items in shop are 16x price
Thanks to the Immensely Balanced Deck and the Real Autowin Deck
Draft Deck
Start run in the shop directly before Ante 7 and with $300.
ok yeah you'd be screwed
assuming you get 4 straight flushes in a row, could you even buy anything? or would you have to pray tag rng is nice
no, it shouldn't touch soul spawn rate, unless if math fiddled with something
i mean i had a run that got an exotic ante 2
i got one round 2
through hammerspace but still
i find it funny how hammerspace can give exotics
you can thank me for making that card
had a weird joker idea
- This Joker has x1.0 Mult stockpiled. Increases by .1 after every round. When selling this Joker, all cards played in the next hand give xMult equal to the stockpile count.
Even then, you wouldn't be able to obtain Jokers thanks to Wormhole deck giving -3 (In this case -6) Joker Slots
casually charge a supernuke
Plus, the 2 Leftmost Jokers are destroyed at the end of every round thanks to Conveyor deck
ok i get it the idea sucks
Oh also, all blinds are final boss blinds
I haven't even started getting to the good stuff though
JESUS
b
must beat ante 2e4 to win
itd be ante 40
joker idea
- 1 joker slot, if score reaches infinity, you win balatro
what ahppens when you win balatro?
idk
Also even if you were able to obtain jokers and consumables, good luck strategizing
better balatro
Also math what do you think of these decks
Oh and don't even get me started on the decks in the suggestion box
name is Salvo in case yall were wondering
does this sound like an uncommon or a rare
balatro CHIMPS when
jockler
When a listed non-whole probability is triggered, retrigger that item by its denominator
No Chips (Stuntman, Wee), Highcard, Items (consumables) Meals (Food Jokers), Packs, or Skips
i love all of the reasonable restrictions
and then i see no food jokers
Joker Poker Fullskip is basically balatro's CHIMP mode anyways
I could be income and M could be magic as in tarots
U can be income?
yes
Not art tho
what rarity should this be
*in Lua
BALATRO
No Blinds (boss blind only), Alterations (Editions), Levels (Hand Upgrades), Aces, Tarots, Rerolls (Cannot reroll in shop, no discarding), or Order (Cannot move jokers)
"RNG failing" implies all probabilities are effectively zero, which means glass would never break, nor would cavendish ever go extinct
surprised no discards isn't on here
discard starts with d
right lmfao
you can't spell "Balatro" with a "d" 
i balatroed your mother last night
ok then
creates a language with the sole intention of countering this
cute to see you try though
sameone didn't
i am the black suit
The clip is from "LotR: The Fellowship of the Ring".
AAAAA:
No Aces, Alterations (enhancements), Adding (jokers or cards), Anger (fire), or Anything
what about The Manacle
the gambling
I think we should add it to Cryptid
The Abandoned: All numbered cards and Aces are debuffed
The Deck: All cards are debuffed
GAMBLE
No Game, Anything, Money, Balatro, Life, and Everything
The Blind: X1.5 blind size
Verdant: All cards are debuffed
Leaf: Until one Joker sold
Verdant Leaf Leaf Leaf Leaf
Wall: X
The: Combines the effect of all Boss Blinds
The Deaf:
All audio is permanently muted
The Blind: The game permanently stops being rendered
The Wheel: Nope!
1/4 chance to win balatro
The Dyslexic: lAl rwosd era ujmbdle
The Roll:
Opens up https://youtu.be/xvFZjo5PgG0?si=e7dE8Pb5ZeaZ2kSk
lol nice try
The Rick
Cute cat video right
Hammerspace Spectral Art
Already exists
The Amnesia: ???
^
oh, sorry
Might be usable for something else though
A wise friend told me
Just because you're right, doesn't mean im wrong
(the friend is in my head)
not saying you are wrong, but it would be nice to see an explanation for your answer though
but why e307? why can it not be e308?
Wait shoot I have to add that in
(The already existing art)
yes, i know that it effectively equals 1.7969e309 according to your logic, but that doesn't necessarily explain why cookie is wrong
1e1.7976931348621742e308, or {1, 1.7976931348621742e308} in terms of programming, is a valid bignumber
but as math said, 1 followed by 1.7969e308 zeroes is 1e1e1.7969e308
lol
and you told us not to correct you
Don't make me hit you with the sin(30)=?
what is the 5th layer of the serpinski triangle
-0.9880316241
you just said sin(30) on its own, no additional context 
specific function
If i was using radians i wouldn't have gone above 2π
still didn't provide context though
tan is sin but 90
Fine then sin(30°)=?
That is uh
Very wrong
im dumb sry
sin(30°) = 0.5
anyway, let's think of more ways to break cryptid
New Legendary Idea:
Retrigger Jokers can Retrigger the Retriggering of Jokers (Not entirely serious)
Tan is sin/cos xd
Definitely not just saying this cause I want Canvas to Retrigger Canvas
2 retrigger jokers will cause an infinite
Two Boredoms with Oa6s
Just add a cap or something
Jokers can only be retriggered 100 times 
honestly mystic, extremely lengthy retrigger combos are boring
Talisman animation skip
that can still start to slow down with extremely long combos
Settings > pinned messages
Checking pins on mobile is Click the top, Click settings, Click Pinned Messages and there
i went afk 😭
reroll
oh iu didnt see that\
just lock the fuck in
Yeah but on a different deck
Doubt that is possible until at least like round 5 on a normal deck
Cant wait for eee308
eeeeeeee308
(e*e308)308
TREE(3) to win
Rayo's Number to win
aleph null to win
I don’t think double scale works with canio 😵
@clear hare I wanna mess around with some wacky Misprint Deck shenanigans
How would I change the range of Misprint Deck from 0.1x to 10x to 0.001x to 1000x
Can't wait for math to create the new biggest Big Number system just because of Cryptid and Talisman
Also when are we getting the other VF Decks
just have the number of es itself be a floating point number
that way you could have 1e(1e308)308
Then do it
A few more times
1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e(1e308)308)308)308)308)308)308
What would be the biggest number then before infinity 🤔
Is this serious?
Not really but if someone answers it
there is a lua port of OmegaNum which math was talking to me about
OmegaNum is a bignumber library that can support 10{1000}9e15
Those are just numbers you can change in the Misprint Deck config code
1000 is exponentiation, tetration, pentation… 1000 times
{2} = tetration (^^), {3} = pentation (^^^), {1000} = holyshitation
(^^^) -> (edited)
do you really want me to make a message that has one-thousand carets?
God, even 10^(9^15) is like 200 trillion digits, where it goes from there...
The 1000 is the part that matters, funnily enough
Hear me out
10{10{10{1000}9e15}9e15}9e15
how unattainable
you really do not need anything higher than this number
i can guarantee you that no amount of multiplication, joker retriggering, exponentiation, tetration, etc, would ever get you to 10{1000}9e15. ever.
it is basically unreachable
ADHD Joker effect 666 might be the only way
Or literally anything that gives inf mult
or chips
Took forever but i found it
hehe
some variables like those on jokers are still normal numbers, so they can still become inf when going past 1.7976931348621742e308
but we can clamp it to 1.7976931348621742e308
inflation pog
nerf it
just choose as many as you want, skip the rest
g2 is still bigger
that's only 566 Antes you can hold a joker for 566 antes
it's cheap too
Don't mind me, lemme just add another 0 to this
Btw I got speculo from that Gateway
Totally balanced chips count
FUUUCK D6 JOKERS CRASHED AGAIN WHYYY
How many math.round functions do I have to paste for this deck to be happy
Heterosexual Flush
Maybe this was a bad idea
Also it seems like the numbers get screwed if you leave to the main menu and then continue the run.
it's because of the way that balatro handles saving iirc
This is a good idea
o7
I think I shouldn't have clicked the spectral card that gave me 1100 Aces
cry cry
I must find a spectral pack that contains a grim that gives me 10^5000 aces now
nice fake unclickable spoiler cry cry unfortunately I have the power of copy text
and you goys have PC's that aren't on fire?
My game just crashes
*guys
Its able to run 1600 cards at 4 fps though
Game doesn’t crash without Sus so it’s probably that
It's actually a challenge surviving without crashing the game.
fr fr
A Challenge you say?
Mega Value {Challenge}:
Misprint Deck except the range is changed to 10 ^ -200 to 10 ^ 200. Lose the run when attempting to continue the run. (If your game crashes you're forced to continue so uh)
Note to self: do not hover over misprint
Yeah I found that out too
lmao
Sometimes apparently
why? 
I have done the thing on Platinum Stake (totally normal stretching of the blinds menu I know).
Misprintest Deck
The way it crashes reminds me of the other times I've crashed without an error screen, suggesting some type of stack overflow from recursion.
Only a mere guess though
so hovering over it just exits to desktop?
The way rendering misprint works it has to create a list of every possible value it can show
So when it has 1e100 values to create, bad things happen
I learned about this when reusing this system for ERROR
could you patch it to not do that?
Probably at some point
Just have it sample 1,000 values instead if there’s too many options
make the yellow one green
m
this is what happens when you use one of the "all 10 of spades" seeds with the ccd deck
as if its not op enough
still not op op
get gatewayed idiot
So like if I just download the latest version of Cryptid and Talisman it should work right?
i got it working
alright so let me cook
Singularity (Spectral): Upgrades the seals of 3 selected cards (makes them shiny or negative or something)
Upgraded blue seal: Creates the upgraded planet card for final played poker hand in round if held in hand or scored
Upgraded gold seal: Earn $6 when this card is scored, payout increases by $3 if held in hand at end of round
Upgraded red seal: Retrigger this card and the card to the right (or all adjacent cards)
Upgraded purple seal: Creates a spectral card when discarded
@clear hare can we get a joker that plays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICU9FVo6f5Q when you get it
Music: Main Theme (Credit Card Entry)
Composer: Kazumi Totaka
Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL0CQjrcN8D0EOblQXRI5MCmsqvnFz4i0
Platform: Nintendo Wii
For more information, please read the channel description!
but with the tempo at balatro's instead of the wii shop channel's
maybe the joker that does that could be this https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wii/images/4/4f/Wii_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20090720172730
ok
Imagine I add this to googol play card or something lol
(Or make a concept with a similar idea)
yeah, something like, "this joker gains 2000 chips whenever you spend $20" or something
So Cryptid is about unbalanced upsides and downsides simultaneously, right?
For the most part the downsides are self-imposed
the downside is poor game stability
I mean lavander loop exists
There should be Showdown+ blinds at antes of multiples of 64
if the ante is a multiple of 512 you see a final final final boss blind. if it's a multiple of 4096 it's a final final final final boss blind
if you reroll on ante 0 you get the infinifinal boss blind
Violetest Vessel
Violetest Vessel
X50 blind size
Violerdanteruleambecrimson Vesseleafbellcornheart
X12 blind size
All cards are debuffed
Jokers are flipped and shuffled and locked in place
2 cards are always selected
+0.5x base blind size/10 seconds
2 jokers debuffed for the round per hand played
if final boss blinds are every 8 boss blinds, boss blinds should be every 8 blinds.
Small blind, big blind, bigger blind, large blind, larger blind, sizable blind, penultimate blind, boss blind
x1 x1.2 x1.3 x1.5 x1.6 x1.7 x1.8 x2
I got an error, it says it cant load in one of the sounds, but i think its because somebody forgot to type \ between 'sounds' and 'MultiplicativeChips.wav'
wait no, thats just the error message
its just something with the sounds
had this problem before
update steamodded
welp
something about bad argument #2
gigantic blind, colossal blind, overweight blind, obese blind, blind with diabetes
@clear hare the tax blind kinda soft locks very fair deck so if possible to make it not appear on very fair deck it would be good cause it just destroyed my first good attempt at high stake very fair deck
bro it happened again
make it not spawnable if you have less than 3 hands
i think thats too hard to code cause im pretty sure blind are generated when the run is started so if you lose hands mid run it can still spawn
blinds are generated at the start of each ante
oh then nvm
you can just automatically reroll the blind
do double scales stack?
n
aw
the world if it did
Some questions at chance about higher stakes:
- The chance of drawing faced-down cards at Jade stake?
- The chance of uncommon and rare jokers become at Cyan Stake (in the original setting, uncommon has 20% chance, rare has 5% chance. By the way, what's the chance of Epic and Exotic jokers?)
- The chance of pinned joker spawn rate at Quartz stake?
- The chance of Big blind become boss blind at Ruby stake?
- The chance of cards shattered at Glass stake?
- The chance of items being faced-down at Emerald stake?
- The chance of banana joker spawn rate at Twilight stake? (future)
- The chance of final boss on non-showdown antes at Blossom stake? (future)
epic joker is ~0.7% or something iirc
exotic is same as soul
Face-down Cards (Jade Stake): 1/20
Joker Chances (Cyan Stake): 82% common, 15% uncommon, 2.3% rare, 0.7% epic (with or without cyan stake)
Pinned Sticker (Quartz Stake): 30%
Big to Boss Blind (Ruby Stake): 30%
Card Shatters (Glass Stake): 1/30
Face-down Items (Emerald Stake): 30%
Banana Sticker (Twilight Stake): 30%
Showdown Boss (Blossom Stake): exact number depends on mods installed, but every individual boss would have the same odds regardless of being a final boss or not
Talisman moment
talisman sets a record for amount of crashes done
started doing some localizablifying stuff to prepare for further work
for Planets.lua i added some dumb stuff to make the hand types localized
function HandLoc(t)
local o = {}
for _, v in ipairs(t) do
table.insert(o, G.localization.misc.poker_hands[v])
end
return o
end
what the fuck ☹️
isn't there steamodded api for localizations now
please use the localization features
yes, but you directly used hand_types strings in config = {hand_types = {'High Card', 'Pair', 'Two Pair'}}, for the vars
do they not get localize()'d
so i gotta return {vars = HandLoc(self.config.hand_types)}, which was return {vars = self.config.hand_types}
ofc i know bruh but wouldnt it be spammy
do you think i care about being spammy
im trying to make slight changes to the original lua as possible so
aight imma just continue doing the locale stuff for a final pull request. but seriously the endless copy n paste sh is killing me
#⚙・modding-general message consider this idea #⚙・modding-general message
9 quadrillion digits
" {"DEFEAT", "ANTE 39 BOSS BLIND", "TO RESTOCK"}," this VFD quip is outdated
2{1000}2 is peak trust
3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{3{4}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3}3
graham's number
who invited the 4
pairs well with 3fps gaming
Art for the Hieroglyph's Deck and Empress's Deck
ay
i just had an idea on how to get infinite score on round 1
round 1
1 gateway, 1 white hole, and 2 cryptids
what was the round 2 inf before
hmm? like who did it first? me
like what was the setup
antimatter shenanigans
i honestly forgot
canas stuff probably
because of misprint you can get a naturally tarot loop setup
meaning inf money off the bat
depending on how long you'd do it
i might go for level infinity
just found an autoclicker setup so i can now afk for level inf
nvm i misclicked and accidentally went to the main menu
Game crash broke my 49 card buffoon pack (I was gonna get dropshot :( )
How would you get the Cryptids round one though
ccd deck
Ah
yeah so you just hold R on ccd or antimatter until you find a gateway, a white hole, and 2 cryptids or 1 cryptid with 1 death
then you use some planet cards and try to find all of those in one hand
then duplicate crpytids with cryptids, play a junk high card hand, then duplicate the white holes and profit
it could probably happen in like 5-10% of seeds
Hierophant's Deck
Schrodinger's Gamble:
All scoring cards either retrigger or not trigger at all
are the cards in the hand or out the hand?
the cards that score in a hand
schrödingers schrödinger: all scoring cards either retrigger retriggering or don’t trigger retrigger retriggering triggers which either retrigger or don’t trigger at all
there fixed it
LOL I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE SHEET SUGGESTIONS
wait fixed what
MY BAD
ha
the message i sent
oh
from deck to card
we're nearing 400 suggestions
lmfao
jokeler
When a Joker is triggered, retrigger a random playing card in the next 2 hands
Joker idea:
Ad Insaniam
1/2: whenever a joker is sold add half it's chips and mult buffs to this joker
1/2: half this joker's buffs
steamodded bug
it happened when updating to 0616
if you play jimball challenge though it won't happen
cards created by marble joker don't have seals in talisman deck :( I imagine this is the same for the similar decks as well
whoops sent the same thing twice
seems like a weird interaction since they appear with a seal in deck view
Lovers and Emperors Deck Art
...Mind if I make concepts relating to these Decks?
They already have concepts, just not art
oh, rental cards don't care about being debuffed...
was so hopeful to at least gain some footing on econ with the ballin' challenge but nope, it's just bypassed by rental
is it weird to send a message then delete it to restart the conversation or nah
yes
forgot the tree for the lovers
Oh yeah you need to get the one exotic joker that upgrades the planet cards so dupe gateways until you get that
I mean you don't need it but it would take way longer without it
yeah universum is bugged
please fix it, i love universum
does anyone have a t3 voucher template?
yes.
here's my one.
i've already done a few tier 3 vouchers
hah
several bad pixels + image is not correct dimensions
wait noo!
i made a deck that doubles hand levels (i meant only for it to work after beating boss blind but it activates every hand) and i cant imagine how good this would be with universium
If you don't mind me asking, what're the bad pixels and correct dimentions?
i had idea where if you score 10 times the blind req, then lose the next blind, you get a benefit
i like it a lot
What’s universum?
i'm not quite sure how you've managed to do this:
there are... a lot of bad pixels here
So ovservatory but a bit stronger
wait, i think I may have tried to recreate it using the placeholder card
combined with white hole it becomes busted busted
Probably downloaded the compressed discord image if I had to guess
fixed
not quite. the ingame description is more accurate:
"Planet cards give x2 Chips and x2 Mult when leveled up"
as in, it doubles the chips and mult every time instead of a flat additive value
Oh that’s insane
Exotic power yay
it quickly becomes exponential
T4 vouchers when
the dimensions should be 71 x 95, but the image provided is only 61 x 95
i've corrected it for you
thank you
Wonder how possible infinite voucher tiers would be
ok i am gonna make it x5 now
simple: 
But how do you KNOW it’s not possible
because it's impossible to store an infinite amount of data (which would be required to register an infinite number of vouchers)
You wouldn’t need to do that
making it so it wouldn't need to be the case would require extensive retooling of how balatro works, which would be extremely invasive and not friendly to other mods
and really, you don't need infinite voucher tiers anyway
ante 6 hand levels
3 voucher tiers are enough, i would say anything beyond 5 is just pointless 
3 is a magic number
How does this even happen
thats fair
Did you mod the misprint deck?
no, he's making his own mod
that begs a question
why are you posting it here and not in #⚙・modding-general/#💻・modding-dev?
idk honestly
then mayhaps you should move it to there
This is what a slightly modified Misprint Deck looks like for reference
ive just been in this chat for a while so i like it because i can see some of the people who are active here
that's fine, i'm just trying to state that if it's not related to cryptid, you should probably post it elsewhere and not here
i'm not a moderator though, i can only suggest, not force. 
it's good to see you join modding though
oh right i posted here because i thought it would be super op with universium
i mightve gotten carried away a lil tho
well, let's steer the topic back onto cryptid
If I recall there are 3 blinds in this mod
there's a fourth blind now, i believe
check the github repository
it's called the Trick
Wait then what’s the third one
there is tax trick clock and lavender loop
the third one is lavender loop
I’m waiting for 1.0 to be a bit less buggy before using Cryptid
i get carried away too, by the way. lol
wow
Just barely scraped by
wait why is the requirement 1843?
betmma vouchers, there's a voucher which reduces requirements by 5% multiplicatively per redeemed voucher
oh i see
why is your game so fast
is my computer just laggy?
i'm using a modified version of MoreSpeeds, i've made it so it can go up to 64x
here you go.
do i just put it in my mod folder
yep, it should work fine. maybe create a folder for it in the mod folder if you want to be safe
you're welcome
how much ^mult would you need to get infinity instantly
oh my
also looks like you didn't use the soul layering thingy
That’s not an answerable question
Why do my boredoms trigger a ton of times at the end of the hand?
Also mult^ should be a thing
It is
But what are they triggering
Not ^mult mult^
they are triggering triggers
Nothing happens they just say again
for more triggers triggering retriggers
It’s called ^mult
Why not
Your starting mult matters A lot
There is a difference between x^y and y^x
That’s what it’s called
What if you had 1
Lemme check the talisman maximum
No
It’s just ee308
Thus you’d need e308 ^mult
Though I think mult^ is more fitting based on what the math actually is
btw 2e7 = 2 * 10^7
What does that mean
10^308
Ok
I know
I mean 10^(10^308)
Doesn’t ^mult make more sense because originalmult^mult
Ya
crazier than ^^mult?
maybe it actually has a chance of making it into the mod then 👍
3^^2 = 7,625,597,484,987
woaw
even crazier than 2^^^^2 and thats like quintration so like whoa tetration is crazy /j
is 3^^2 = 3^3^3?
think so
4^^2 is really big
And I think 5^^2 would reach Infinity with Talisman
Wait
I think im wrong
It’s 1 am
X^^2 is only X^X
im thinking of x^^^2
it's approximately 10^2184
so no
read above

how would this work anyway
Where did you get this number?
3^^^2 is approximately 10^10^12.5
Wolfram
u sure you are typing it right
that's just 7trillion
true
they should make a channel with the Wolfram alpha bot
I feel like I should know this stuff
I’m good at math
Being good at math doesn’t help you know stuff you’ve never learned
E notation with multiple Es
I’m guessing you simply hadn’t seen it before
I guess
But I can figure it all out with logic
I’m the best in my grade at logic
What grade level is that stuff?
it's not
nobody uses numbers that large
and if they do they use expontents instead of Es
precisely
Except for modding a funny poker game that middle eastern countries keep trying to ban
I still can figure it out with logic though
never make such asusmptions without double checking with outside reliable sources
You’re my source
thanks for the compliment, but don't just trust discord users cuz they have math in their name
but cryptid stuff
I don’t actually have middle school because of where I live but the rest of the country does at my age
So I’m fine
wip 👀
When did that get added
It hasn’t
Makes perfect sense
Since i have the game on steam now I can actually test these things so im working on adding some of the more simpler things in the sheet
Rn this is a wip
I should probably get my hands on the source code at some point lmao
Settings > pinned messages
I did some trolling with debugplus
me and math have been talking about upgrading talisman to use a different bignumber system that can support numbers so large that it'd be basically impossible to reach infinity normally
2alisman
the largest bignum system he's shown me can go up to {10,9e15,1,2}, which is a stupidly long sequence of arrows raised to the power of one another
TREE(Mult)
beaf referenced
Tree 3 would break the bignum system
how would you even display this in game
You would display it as BEEG
more es i think?
You would need about as many es to display it as the actual number
It probably just displays in that notation
at that point link to a page where the player can actually understand these numbers
mathisfun something about this doesn't work
Card.update = function(self, card, context)
if G.STAGE == G.STAGES.RUN then
if self.ability.name == 'Scalper' then
local sell_cost = 0
for i = 1, #G.jokers.cards do
if G.jokers.cards[i] ~= self and (G.jokers.cards[i].area and G.jokers.cards[i].area == G.jokers) then
sell_cost = sell_cost + G.jokers.cards[i].sell_cost
end
end
self.ability.mult = sell_cost
end
SMODS.Joker {
key = 'scalper',
loc_txt = {
name = 'Scalper',
text = {'Adds {C:blue}+5 sell value of all other owned Jokers to Mult'}
},
rarity = 1,
pos = {
x = 0,
y = 0
},
cost = 5,
discovered = true,
calculate = function(self, info_queue, center)
if self.ability.bonus > 0 then
return {
message = localize{type='variable',key='a_chips',vars={self.ability.bonus}},
chip_mod = self.ability.bonus
}
end
}
You need to put the update function in the joker declaration
Use update = function(self,card,context) and then the function
I didn't add it before and worked
like my cards torture and rich get richer didn't need it
Where do i put it?
After the calculate in the joker declaration table thing
It basically becomes another property
you should ask in #💻・modding-dev considering this isn't related to cryptid
decided to finally try this mod out and I think I accidentally soft locked myself, lol 😭
my blueprints were copying the one joker that makes negative copies of other jokers and the blueprints are all triggering the canvases which are making them last longer
lesson learned, never canvas the negative joker maker lol
use talisman’s skip animation thing
you might still crash your game but if your computer does manage to live the copying will take much less time
I just started a new run lol, even if nothing happened, there's no way I'm sorting through 200 jokers, lol
oh, btw, what does the error joker do?
I got one in my new run and am even being offered a 2nd one right now, but I also am being offered the gateway card, so I'm not sure if I'd rather sell the errors to get an exotic or go double error
lost anyway, lol, nvm
||after a random number of rounds, duplicates all jokers when sold||
double error goes nuclear
oooo, ok, I'll remember that
It won’t tell you if it’s ready with talisman anim skip though so be warned
nooo! I don't have enough money!
they offered me tribolet with maximized!
||was the ??? notification I got after the blind it, or will it say something else?||
It shakes like invis and dna
But anim skip disables that
Probably unintentionally lmao
Glad to see more people trying the mod though 👀
they hate me!! they offered it to me again! who do you think I am? someone with 20$?
I'm losing my mind lol, this is the THIRD time
wait
ok, so, I sold literally every joker I had but maximized and I could get it this time
hopefully I don't regret dropping that canvas
update: found exponetia for the first time
boredom+speculo goes crazy
hmm, I wonder what the actual chance of my 1 negative cavendish dying out is
cuz my 6 boredoms have a 1 in 2 chance of making the check an additional time
finally sold my 3 errors ||(they never shook so I had no idea they were on, lol, maybe I have the animation skip thing on without knowing it?)||
I don’t think you do judging by the ss
Might have just exited out and went back in since that also turns it off in vanilla
huh, interesting
That expo art was done by me hehe
sold my speculo to avoid the problem from before as well
oh cool!
oh 😢 game crashed
I think I got to many jokers lol
yeah, don't think I can salvage this 😭
final joker setup
Art for this, also I'm renaming this to Restack, just sounds more fitting (Also, is that a reference to something in the art?)
2x
this with efficare effectively makes every card old gold seal
Reverse: Sell this joker to win the blind and get the remaining chips / 100 in $
Skip: Sell this joker to advance the current ante by 1.
Wild: Randomly copies a bought joker when blind is selected
Draw 2: +2 hand size, Debuffed if 75% of cards in hand are the same suit
Wild Draw 4: Randomly copies the upside of a random joker when blind is selected
Anything that autowins blinds can be used in a way to make the game unable to be lost
Get enough money
its an exotic
mb
Imagine just ending an Uno game with a stop card
Stop: Crashes game
game crashed just now from playing white hole, might've had to do with the fact I had just picked up universum in the same shop?
i dont think it knows what to do in the event of downgrading hands
havent had it happen to me but
unable to upgrade hands. It happening with flush five and I have that x2 level up joker so that might be the cause.
ok I tried selling universum before leveling up flush five and no crash
and @trail laurel (sorry for ping) also had an issue with white hole crashing their game and they had just got universum
So i'd say universum is a little brokey rn
Universum is just krangled rn
yea aight
i figured i should make the ULTRAVIOLENCE joker set complete so i have created one last 7-based effect
this one is just cool
Hell Bath No Fury
All played 7s trigger the upsides of the Enhancements of other Enhanced cards they're played with.
this is intresting tbh
I don't think double scale is working with constellation for some reason
mosb, whitenight and laetitia...
turns out mosb is top tier for deck thinning and points
white
Im surprized nobody pointed it out yet
wait, hold on, it turns out the double scales just stopped working midgame for some reason 😭
I have one yorick which is getting 16x mult per and another that gets 1x
can't imagine whats making the game run so slow
im surprized as well
does double scale act weirdly with multiple copies of itself?
I have 3 atm
If you copied Yorick while it was gaining x16 Mult after 23 discards from Double Scale that'd explain it
See the reply message it's better explained near there
so, for a while it wasn't increasing at all, I had had it for I think, 5 blinds maybe? I had used all 5 of my discards each blind and the entire time it remained at x1 mult gain
however, about 3 blinds ago, I sold 2 of my 4 double scales
after which, the numbers on the 2nd yorick started raising
I just now sold the 3rd double scale and am going to see if constellation starts working
costellation still isn't working, but it might just be visual
either that or it's counting all the individual levels from white hole
cuz despite being at x0.1 increase still, it's current mult is x120, so
wait how does that work with negatives?
I wonder how that works with Cryptid and 0.9.8 compat
It’s like conveyor deck but faster
finally my deck runneth over
idk lmao just says they "get special treatment" #1215786968433164328 message
aw man
bet they either dont work or give you the ability to have two kinds of jokers at once
Currently the top 5 things I'm waiting for the most in Cryptid (in order) is:
Echo Card / Eclipse Tarot
Clones / Tag Printer / The Tags they make
The Ruins
Epic Tag
Sapphire Stamp
Then when im done the effects ADHD Joker, and when im done the art the Tablets (Both of which will be at the top)
Variable
Destroys all played 4s, Every 4 4s destroyed gain X0.4 mult (number changes every ante (1-10))
for example if you get a one, every ace played is destroyed, gain X0.1 mult for every destroyed 1
Going to get back to work on this tomorrow but will probably finish up the boss blinds first (and fix the Universum bug, while also changing it to be canvas/blueprint compatible)
Or maybe today depending on how I feel
alright 😎
Can i get some help working this mod?
what you need help with
I've followed the instructions on GitHub but the mod won't appear in my mods folder
can I see your mod folder
Yup
uhh you need steamodded in there
wherever you put the steamodded folder take it out and put it there
Aah yes. I've moved it into my cryptid folder 🤦♂️
Then I'm confused
don't put it inside any other folders
Ok
