Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]

[dusty plover]

leave this in as a secret

🙏

[clear hare]

it animates smoothly as well

even though I didn't touch anything with regards to that

localthunk is just goated

[lime inlet]

localgoat

[clear hare]

🐐

ok now let's push this with a bit of canvas

[dusty plover]

THE BLACK PILLAR

[clear hare]

Black Pillar
all tags are debuffed

[tired cedar]

how are you supposed to play the rental deck lol

[weak burrow]

[clear hare]

yes

skip tags

[tired cedar]

oh lol

[weak burrow]

why is universum so hard to find when im actually trying to find it ffs

i legit found every other exotic multiple times already

fucking finally

[lime inlet]

for some reason my balatro closes after it boots up

[weak burrow]

after a hard crash i got this error after rebooting and pressing play

[lime inlet]

ok found what's wrong

[jagged garden]

Funny space jokers build

[cold sandal]

Updated Chili Pepper art

2x

[lime inlet]

if only talisman sped up tag animations

[empty fern]

I JUST. WANTED. DNA.

[cold sandal]

That may not have been the best idea (Im on 4 fps)

No showman (Deck of moon)

Speaking of, Double Scale doesn't work with Chili Pepper

[clear hare]

this is funny

[brave ibex]

Fire

[tired cedar]

hermit on randomizer deck seems to give me a different amount of money than it says it will, is this intentional?

[clear hare]

bug

[cold sandal]

Crashed upon trying to access The Eye

[clear hare]

chili pepper should be good now

[tired cedar]

temperance seems to have the same bug btw

[clear hare]

all consumables do

lfg

[tired cedar]

the tarots that enhance seemed to work?

lol

[clear hare]

yeah

but anything that applies the number outside of card selection is bugged

Eye bug is vanilla Steamodded

not Talisman this time, lmao

[clear hare]

could you send me your save.jkr? It'll make fixing this with Talisman easier

cause right now I'm basically just fixing one error in the chain at a time

[empty fern]

made it to the es in money lmao compound interest double scale is crazyyy

101 discards too lol

[summer cargo]

compound interest reaaaaaaaally doesn't seem like an uncommon

[clear hare]

I nerfed the value but will probably also make it rare

it's pretty busted

alright now to fix misprint deck lying to you

[summer cargo]

gaslight misprint girlboss

[clear hare]

I'm going to approach it with my programming wand

[oak herald]

how compound intrest is a uncommon is 😭

[clear hare]

ok so I think I see the issue

localization is in card.config but the actual effect lives in card.ability

[summer cargo]

compound interest feels like, on the border of rare and epic, definnitely epic with its current scaling

[clear hare]

I'm probably just going to nerf it a bit and make it rare

10%, +2%

sounds good?

gosh darn this thing is getting worse treatment than vampire

ok what I'm doing with the consumables is better

but not quite good

for some reason The Hermit from an arcana pack still gave me the wrong amount but when I spawned it again in debug mode it worked

going to try spectrals since they're easier to test

[oak herald]

balance, in my unbalanced balatro mod, we riot /j

[clear hare]

on-brand spectral pack

[brave ibex]

no The soul 😔

[clear hare]

ok I fixed consumables lying to you

[clear hare]

other card was aura

alr let's do another run to bug hunt

this time on antimatter

I found unnerfed Campfire

also some values aren't changing that probably should (eg. Immolate) but at least they aren't bugged anymore

I kinda want to fix at least Immolate (but probably the rest gradually)

[soft night]

so about the "select as many cards as you'd like" deck

is it possible to make selecting more than 5 identical cards still be a flive? i saw a screenshot earlier of a flush six only being scored as a flush and that sounds a bit unfair

[clear hare]

well it's not a 5oak

and they all still score

I feel like it's fine

[soft night]

ah

[clear hare]

this works now

I was only going a 2 layers deep and these were in card.ability.consumeable.extra

wait hone with this is so busted now

something tells me this bug is happening again

wait no... it's just really high for some reason

it's funny enough to keep though

double scale doesn't look like it's working with hologram

how much money will I get?

like 2 grand lol

[gray elm]

Deck that flips all card at start of round

Like tainted laz

[lime inlet]

just realized

you can tarot loop round 1 with misprint

[clear hare]

hmm, it still isn't even working with hologram

lmao

[lime inlet]

Inf round 1 is way easier than i thought lol

just get a tarot pack with every single tarot and boom tarot loop

however earliest inf on smth like very fair deck is interesting

[clear hare]

hmmm

yep

[gray elm]

Double scale is NOT an epic

Make it legendary

And stacks

[clear hare]

Tbh it’s only this goated because of everything else in the mod

[brave ibex]

Double scale shall not stack, it's for the greater good

[clear hare]

It’s probably epic tier on a non-Cryptid deck

also epic is like the replacement for legendary kinda

[brave ibex]

legendary jokers can still exist though 🤔

[clear hare]

Tbh Canvas could be nerfed to be just Commons to the right, but the issue is M exists

[brave ibex]

like nostalgic invis 😉

[brave ibex]

maybe rares, kinda like baseball

[gray elm]

I was wondering why theres no legendary in the sheet

[brave ibex]

nobody implemented any, or effects were changed to exotic or epic

[clear hare]

It’s also harder because the design of Legendaries are much narrower and many notable jesters are already explored in other mods

[summer cargo]

this is where you start bending the definition of jester slightly and include fictional jesters and people who've portrayed jesters in media

[brave ibex]

we always have the option to break the rules

[lime inlet]

legendaries have extremely strict requirements compared to other rarities

[brave ibex]

we already broke everything else

[summer cargo]

basically make pomni a legendary

[lime inlet]

lmao

[brave ibex]

so this was your master plan...

[summer cargo]

No I just come up with the most inane example I can think of

[clear hare]

make localthunk a legendary

[cold sandal]

New tier above Epic and Legendary that still appears in shop (Canvas Tier, only contains Canvas)

[clear hare]

0.01% chance to spawn

[cold sandal]

Thats too high

0.0034% chance to spawn

[clear hare]

0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%

[cold sandal]

Xd

[clear hare]

or if you type in the cheat code

[brave ibex]

Doe buff

[clear hare]

holding right click and typing CANVAS fills your joker slots with Canvas

[brave ibex]

I like how this stemmed from double scale balancing lmao

[brave ibex]

Everything revolves around canvas

[cold sandal]

Make Canvas only spawn from a super rare tag

[clear hare]

Fabric Deck - Start with Canvas, -7 hand size, ante 1 base is 20

[brave ibex]

I could see canvas having a -hand like troubadour

[lime inlet]

i want an item that centralizes on dying a specific way

[lime inlet]

problem is by the time you got canvas in most cases you one shot everything

[brave ibex]

Hm

[lime inlet]

and it's not like there's that much of a consequence to getting 20 canvases

other than the 1 hand

[gray elm]

Maybe give canvas -1 joker slot

[lime inlet]

wait what are we balancing canvas for specifically

[brave ibex]

Almost done working on a potential exotic btw 🥶

[gray elm]

idk

[clear hare]

it's OP in a fun way imo

most of the balance is just thrown out the window from DoE

and being able to get epics/exotics so easily

[gray elm]

We are thawing him

[lime inlet]

DoE is the best idea I ever had

and one of the first

[clear hare]

april 28

[lime inlet]

cool date that i don't know

[clear hare]

that's when you suggested it

[lime inlet]

lel

ante skipping would go crazy in this mod's current stage

[vestal seal]

i should really hop on new cryptid updates

[lime inlet]

fun deck idea
[someone can make this part], Blinds go in reverse

what's next on the implementation vote thingy

the only i remembered is Reditus and that's because im stoked to see it(and abuse it)

[clear hare]

I posted a message listing it but it got buried

^

these are what are locked in for v0.4

[lime inlet]

just had an idea for a helpful feature

actually ima brainstorm ante skipping first

what if after you scored a huge hand for the round you're teleported to the ante that's closest to your score in base

[grim tendon]

hey what are the jokers for this mod

i dont want to scroll 13000 pages

[gray elm]

In pinned

And why do you look like jevonn

[grim tendon]

whos jevonn

[gray elm]

.

[grim tendon]

ah yes im his cousin

[lime inlet]

this mod is gonna be

wide

this shit is never reaching 1.0

[gray elm]

Is this in reference of a very very old meme or just a general statement

[lime inlet]

2nd one

[brave ibex]

Me

hello

[grim tendon]

hello cousin

[brave ibex]

finished eating

guys is this heat?

[grim tendon]

🔥

[brave ibex]

Exotic: Prime (Or latin equivalent): This joker gains ^0.1 mult if hand contains only prime numbers (Ace, 2, 3,5,7)

[gray elm]

The background could have a little more texture

Other than that its great

[vestal seal]

challenge idea: start with eternal number blocks and mime. all other ways of getting money disabled

[brave ibex]

idk what I would put there though

[vestal seal]

oh wait its on a per hand basis nvm

i thought it was end of round

[brave ibex]

it can work without mime

[gray elm]

Blueprint bg

[clear hare]

Primus - and no ace

[brave ibex]

alr

maybe ^1.15 actually

[green thunder]

why is ace not prime

[brave ibex]

cuz it's not 1 ig

[green thunder]

1 and 11 are both prime so

[brave ibex]

1 probably isn't a prime anyway

[grim tendon]

1 isnt prime

[green thunder]

ig 1 being prime depends on your definition of prime but 11 counts at least

[brave ibex]

it can be a poll 🗿

[green thunder]

also it should support my dumb ranks for when i ever release them (0-30)

[brave ibex]

the council must decide

[lime inlet]

i mean ace has 11 chips

[brave ibex]

New Primus with the bp bg

it does look less empty

wait no i forgot to remove the temporary black pixels

use this one

time to add to suggestions 💪

[green thunder]

that flame effect could make a cool enhancement....

[brave ibex]

yw (search hot rod pattern)

[green thunder]

?

i dont follow

[brave ibex]

That's what the flame pattern is

incase you want to look for more

[green thunder]

oh yeah i know that lol

[brave ibex]

oh lol

[green thunder]

more just like, thatd be a cool enhancement to see

[brave ibex]

just steal it lmfao

[green thunder]

id have to learn how the enhancement api works it only came out today

[lone tiger]

rigged, a nil value should have won

[cloud granite]

Yes unless used in A2357 straight with Shortcut

[junior river]

when left joker is triggered, copy the joker on the right

[rough violet]

nah make it count anyway

because thats too niche

[lime inlet]

had joker idea

basically if you make it so you play all cards in a straight, you get a gateway card

[rough violet]

all cards in a straight?

elaborate

[lime inlet]

no can be seperate

like i play AKQJT one hand then 98765 the next hand all the way to 2

[junior river]

guys which one do i pick!!!!

[lime inlet]

"If all ranks are played in a straight through consecutive hands"?

[lusty fjord]

my game crashes everytime i play a hand

i tried starting a new run and it still crashes

ok now the game crashes whenever i click play

how can i delete my saved game? i think thats the problem

[junior river]

what are scaling jokers.,.,.,

[lusty fjord]

green joker ride the bus and all of those

[junior river]

would whip technically count as scaling

[lusty fjord]

ye

[cloud granite]

Jokers that have a value that increases or decreases under certain circumstances

[lime inlet]

what about canio

that can't decrease

[lusty fjord]

its still a scaling joker

it doesnt have to be able to decrease

[lime inlet]

ik i was just giving an example that doesn't fit KEKC's definition

[rough violet]

increase OR decrease

[junior river]

do i sell double scale

[weak burrow]

You have a joker slot you don't need to sell

I mean you should have one

Why is it 6 of 6 with a negative joker

[junior river]

because i have 6 jokers?

[weak burrow]

Wait nvm I got it confused xd

Sell gratification

[junior river]

No

well i mean now i did but not then

[lusty fjord]

does someone know why this is happening

[junior river]

uhmmmm

i have no idea what it does

do i?

my runs already busted as is

[junior river]

Yes, thats a blueprint on a canvas.

thats alot

[weak burrow]

btw i was able to fix it somehow by loading into a savestate i had and starting a new run

[junior river]

burglar

guys will i lose this run?

[weak burrow]

more crashes

[junior river]

WHAT?!?!?!?

LOL

THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO DIE IN THIS RUN

ITS TELLING ME TO TURN BACK NOW

OH MY GOD

okay game softlocked me

i got 0 hand size

please cryptid....

i beg.....

add a drop down menu for your jokers................

[lusty fjord]

Oops! The game crashed:
main.lua:5714: attempt to call a nil value

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1f-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0-ALPHA-0530c-STEAMODDED
Love2D Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.5.0-beta5

Stack Traceback

(3) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 5714
(4) global C function 'require'
(5) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x071ce1a0 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x071ce1c8 (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(6) global C function 'xpcall'
(7) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(8) global C function 'xpcall'
(9) Love2D function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(Love2D Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

this happens whenever i open the game

idk what to do

[oak wigeon]

oh gosh

[junior river]

the game killed me because it took so long

name a better combo than Canvas & Queen's Gambit

literally just breaks the game

[lusty fjord]

happens everytime i click play

i tried deleting all my profiles and reseting them but them whenever i play a hand it also crashes

@clear hare

this is what i get when i play a hand

[clear hare]

Try making a profile without Cryptid and Talisman and playing a run first, it might be a workaround for your crash

But I also need to fix that bug because it corrupts your entire profile

[lusty fjord]

ye i lost my profile which had almost 100% completion on unmodded

[dull mural]

picked up queens gambit
when it destroyed a queen it kinda... made a ghost card?
i couldnt play the card but it took up hand space
crash happened when i quit out to main menu went back in and exited the shop

[lusty fjord]

so rip that achievment

[dull mural]

after restarting the game i can continue the run

[empty fern]

game crashed when selecting blind :(

[clear hare]

Steamodded bug

Don’t play The Eye right now

[dull mural]

hey guess what crashed my game just now

lmao

[empty fern]

how do i

do that

[clear hare]

This crash appears to be from spawning an epic joker which I thought I fixed? Hopefully it just means that I only fixed it in the dev version lol

[dull mural]

i got basball card from it if that matters

[teal plover]

@clear hare crashed with compound interest

functions/common_events.lua @ line 1165 : attempt to index field payout_arg (a nil value)

and i know why

it's trying to subtract money (i was $20 in debt, aka $-20)

[lusty fjord]

do you know why it happens?

[strange oxide]

0530c is broken, I think

[clear hare]

Don’t play on a fresh profile

I’ll update Talisman today to fix this

[oak herald]

can ghost deck give gateway/white hole?

[teal plover]

they should be able to, they are spectral cards

[clear hare]

no, just like Soul

think I've been outvoted here

[teal plover]

when you think about it, math, the +chips provided by a card's rank are based on blackjack, and an ace in blackjack has a value of 11

11 is a prime number

[clear hare]

Yeah I think that’s valid

[teal plover]

so i say; yes, it should count

[grim tendon]

some Tarots:

• Cosmos: Get a negative planet card of the most played hand (Currently: None)
• Science: 1/2 chance to upgrade the rarity of the selected joker. Does not wrap around.
• Voyage: Gain $5. Increases by $3 for every time this tarot has been played this run
• Temple: Gives 5 selected cards a random enhancement
• Time: Converts 3 selected cards into the most common suit in the deck (Currently: Tied)
• Home: Cannot use this tarot. X1.5 mult when held in hand (Cannot get in booster packs)
• Null: Make a non-negative jokers negative and vice versa (Spawns in like The Soul / Black Hole)

[clear hare]

@weak burrow fixed this bug

[grim tendon]

For context these cards reference the puzzle game The Room (more specifically Room 2 Chapter 4)

[weak burrow]

Totally normal save moment

[clear hare]

it'll be in the next Talisman update along with fixing the thing where fresh profiles crash

[weak burrow]

Also can you send me the save in dms? I deleted it trying to fix my profile

[lilac shuttle]

I think we need a better way to display this amount of money

[grim tendon]

i guess exponents would work

[clear hare]

going to have to start passing this in to format_number lmao

[clear hare]

it's just here @weak burrow

posting the fixed version of Talisman now

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Talisman/releases/tag/v1.1.10

[lilac shuttle]

also is this a vanilla problem when you have too high hand size but not that many cards in deck

[clear hare]

yeah

I can make the handsize cap at deck size

[teal plover]

why haven't you already done that

[clear hare]

I was adding features

Now I'm working on polish/bugfix before Murph's stream

[teal plover]

speaking of number formatting, i noticed while prowling through talisman's files that there are other notations, could we add a setting for that in the future?

[clear hare]

maybe

[teal plover]

because i know that not everyone likes to read scientific notation

[clear hare]

most of those aren't built for large numbers though

[teal plover]

then we can make our own

i've made a bignumber system of my own before, the notation i used was a bit more simplified

[lilac shuttle]

I like scientific notation as I've played quite a few of incremental games

[teal plover]

i'm sure, but the point is to make it accessible for other audiences

[clear hare]

I also feel like the latest Talisman update has added more lag

[teal plover]

hence why i'm pitching the idea to make it an option

[lilac shuttle]

But not something like Sx,Sp,Dc

[teal plover]

no, no, i didn't do that for mine

[clear hare]

yeah definitely a good idea

just have fun making one that scales up to 1e1e308

[teal plover]

that's easy

[lilac shuttle]

negative negative joker is white? very cool

[teal plover]

i did something like this

K > M > B > T > Q > aa > ab > ac > ... > ax > ay > az > ba > bb > bc > ... > zx > zy > zz > aa1 > ab1 > ac1 > ... > ay1 > az1 > ba1 > ... zx1 > zy1 > zz1 > aa2 > ...etc...

[lilac shuttle]

tap titans?

so how much is 1.0aa1

If you can't exchange it to scientific in 20 seconds it's too complex

[teal plover]

alien, i'm trying to pitch an idea but you're too busy limiting the scope to people who just read scientific numbers

the point is to add options so other audiences can read the numbers effectively

because not everyone can read scientific notation easily

for example when i was younger i needed simplified notation

because back then i didn't know how to read scientific

to answer the question though, 1aa1 is 1.0e683

[clear hare]

first attempt didn't work, will come back to this

[lilac shuttle]

I agree to have multiple notations to choose from, although imo scientific is one of the easiest
the number after "e" is how many 0s after the number before "e"

[teal plover]

yes, i'm sure of that, but simplified is meant to make it also look a bit more tidy

[oak herald]

but why

mixed scientific is best notation

[teal plover]

[lilac shuttle]

[oak herald]

i think it would be easier if you just had an option for people to select their notation

now everyone wins until we get blind notation

[teal plover]

i literally just said this a few minutes ago

[oak herald]

only problem is standard notation would be borderline unreadable after e10,000 or so

actually it would still be readable somewhat

[teal plover]

if you mean my notation; no problem, we can add another layer of compression to it

[oak herald]

but whos going to know what 100.00 DFM-TDcSiPC-OTgQuNA-SxSeDnMC-SxSeScMI-QtSeSc is?

[teal plover]

that's not my notation bro

[oak herald]

oh sorry i was rambling about standard notation

[lilac shuttle]

I already struggle with Sx,Sp,No,Dc

[teal plover]

plus, you can easily tell from a quick glance that something like 14ac is much larger than 683aa, because "c" comes later in the alphabet than "a" does

makes it easier to comprehend

[oak herald]

as someone who played both tap titans im glad that scientific exists
it's good but why not just go from zz -> aaa

[teal plover]

scientific is not the letter notation, it's #.#e#

should probably take this over to talisman chat, now that i think about it: #1241172556849876993 message

[lilac shuttle]

picking canvas was a mistake

[teal plover]

canvas is never a mistake in my book, i love torturing the game

[lilac shuttle]

I don't like torturing my computer

[teal plover]

we have asked math a few times about optimisation, we did pitch the idea of compressing cards into a single stack

#1219749193204371456 message

[dull mural]

the head did indeed appear

[jagged garden]

Funny lucky deck straight flush run, did get "Lucky Joker" (the one from Cryptid) during the run, it was good econ

[weak burrow]

idk if its the same crash but heres another one

idk maybe i didnt update something

ok i updated and it seems to be fixed

ok nvm it wasnt

here is the crash with the updated mods

[lusty fjord]

has someone beaten the very fair deck platinum stake?

idk if this is a bag or not but this can happen

[brave ibex]

I think the furthest someone has gotten was red stake

[clear hare]

Didn’t get to this yet

[clear hare]

should be fixed in latest version (however it looks like you’re on that)

Send me your save file and I will try and fix

[lusty fjord]

i restarted srry

ill check if im on latest version

ok i wasnt on latest version

[clear hare]

my code for this works now

[teal plover]

excellent

[clear hare]

it's visually capped at deck size now (which I didn't want) but it's better than before

now to fix the Queen's Gambit and loc vars bugs

[teal plover]

it's definitely way better than having all my cards crumped up to the point it might create a singularity

[weak burrow]

So basically hand size can't go above deck size

Ngl that's good enough for most cases

[teal plover]

in theory it should scale up automatically when you get more cards

and vice versa

[weak burrow]

Yeah I get that

[jagged garden]

Thank you for all the frequent updates 🫡

[clear hare]

yw

will probably focus less on this for a bit after v0.3.2, but I want to fix this in advance of MurphyObv streaming this mod (sometime in the next few days most likely)

[brave ibex]

I think it was planned for today

[clear hare]

on his discord he said he probably won't stream today

so it'll probably be like a Monday stream or somethign

[brave ibex]

Oh I see, so we still have time

[clear hare]

ye, although I don't think I'll add any new content in advance of that

will focus more on Ankh

[brave ibex]

Ic

[clear hare]

I also added this interaction with Queen's Gambit and Four Fingers

[brave ibex]

Maybe I’ll copy paste the m code and try to get eternal flame working before then

[weak burrow]

So double royal flush

I think that's too op xd

[clear hare]

for the setup it's worth it

and besides ,you can't get canvas

[weak burrow]

I mean 4 fingers just adds ease of use

I don't think it should add power

[brave ibex]

It only adds more of you have two queens I think

Of the same suit

[clear hare]

you need two scoring queens, ye

[brave ibex]

Imagine retriggers 🤑

[weak burrow]

Honestly I think adding blueprint compatibility makes more sense than this interaction if you ask me

[brave ibex]

It’s a free buff, i’n gonna take it

[clear hare]

Also the loc_var crash is happening with lucky joker

huh

[weak burrow]

My crash?

[clear hare]

Yeah

Or at least that’s what it looks like

I’ll check again later when I have time

Wait nvm I’m looking at the wrong thing

It’s booster joker apparently

Wait lemme see if Steamodded changed something

[grim tendon]

got a crash when entering shop

[clear hare]

You may need to enable Misc Decks for now

In the mod config

[weak burrow]

What's the versions of your mods? I updated when I had this error and it got fixed

[grim tendon]

nvm my stupidity decided to not replace the steammodded version

[weak burrow]

also the same crash is happening on a new save

even without any jokers

when i look at collection i just get a crash

[clear hare]

Looks like a Steamodded change I have to adjust for

[grim tendon]

game let me use trance when no card was selected

[weak burrow]

You know you can copy error pages

[grim tendon]

how

im new to this

[weak burrow]

That way math can get the full breakdown

You should be able to scroll down and see you can use ctrl c

[grim tendon]

cant

also

[weak burrow]

Then you need to update steamodded

[silver cobalt]

Known issue

[clear hare]

I think this is a Steamodded bug but haven’t checked

[clear hare]

almost forgot so thanks for the screenshot Sameone

[clear hare]

ok fixed this

tbh not sure why it's letting you use spectrals when you shouldn't

narrowed it down to Misprint.toml

fixed it

Just pushed out 0.3.1c, it should fix most if not all of the reported bugs along with Talisman 1.1.11

If nothing else is found I’ll push it out as 0.3.2

Oh wait I still have to do the localization bug

[strange oxide]

hm, I just realized I probably should do some parsing on mod versions that's not just lexicographical comparison

=1.1.2 won't accept 1.1.11

[junior river]

name a more broken combo than Canvas + Queens Gambit

literally so overpowered it broke my game and instakilled me

i got lucky

nawww

wtf

[silver cobalt]

does anyone know how M was made to create only jolly jokers?

i have a card that needs to oncly create a specific consuable in my mod and i dont really know how

what i currently have rn kinda spat out a completely diferent modded consumable i made and a joker in a consumable slot somehow

weird it does that every time

i guess its trying to make the slingshot twice?

but uh still

[teal plover]

check the source code : https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/blob/f536eadb44e8979cc12b53046056e6048c26e988/Items/EpicJokers.lua#L264

[silver cobalt]

i did

this was all it used

im pretty sure there was some sort of lovely injection

but i cannot figure out what it was

[teal plover]

why is there a fifth nil?

[silver cobalt]

oh

that might be it

[teal plover]

lol

[junior river]

Finally.

[clear hare]

In Cryptid.lua I override create_card, take a look at that too

[silver cobalt]

well thats fun

[clear hare]

Hopefully you have the version that doesn’t bug it

[teal plover]

man i wish i could bulk-use planets

[silver cobalt]

i cannot comprehend that monstrosity

[junior river]

that doesnt whayt

[teal plover]

@clear hare sitting through my consumable area manually using every planet/black/white hole is killing me

[junior river]

DOUBLE IT!!

[teal plover]

while i wait for incantation, could we at least get a QoL button to use all planets/white/black holes? (and a second button to use all but one, in case of perkeo)

[silver cobalt]

how would you override it in 1.0.0

[lusty fjord]

math how close are you to fixing the eye blind cause its really annoying

if you could even just disable it so that it doesnt appear that would also be good

[teal plover]

according to math, it's actually a steamodded bug

you can always use debugplus to force the game to reroll the boss blind

[lusty fjord]

then maybe just removing the blind would be a good fix

whats debugplus?

[silver cobalt]

lol think i found it

[teal plover]

it's a mod that enables the game's debug menu (which you open by holding TAB) and adds more options to it, one of them being the ability to freely reroll the boss blind as you please

[silver cobalt]

or not

[clear hare]

Just use a lovely patch for where you want to change

I override it because I make like at least a dozen changes to it for Cryptid

[silver cobalt]

its not that simple i think

it fails here

in common_events.lua

not in the create_card funciton

in the tutorial_info function

wth is going on

[clear hare]

Wait forced_key just looks like a vanilla feature

[silver cobalt]

i know

but it literally refuses to work

and that function somehow points at a completely different area of the code

i also realized i needed to add the prefix to the forced key but it did nothing

i might have to cave in and give it a slightly different effect

[strange oxide]

fixed on latest steamodded commit, sorry about that

[lusty fjord]

ok ty

[teal plover]

@clear hare i can't use cryptid (the card), ironically

and please, can we get a bulk-use button for when you've got so many planets/black holes/white holes to burn through

• adding a case of using all but the leftmost planet/black/white hole in case if you own perkeo

it's a good bandaid QoL while incantation (mod) doesn't exist yet

[clear hare]

that's going to be complex, will probably hold off on that for now

[teal plover]

[clear hare]

update to latest dev version

[junior river]

i would do any thing for a drop down menu of your jokers when you have like 50.,.,....

like please

[teal plover]

i think math is just prioritising features over QoL at the moment

this is still a WIP mod after all

[junior river]

i forgot it was WIP

atp theres so much stuff in this

i forgot about that

[clear hare]

QoL is important for sure but that'll probably come a bit later for more complex QoL things

[teal plover]

he can do it if it's simpler, he did squeeze the tag display for example

[clear hare]

the deck size and tag stuff only required a few changes whereas bulk-use and card stacking would require complete overhauls of the system

like this is the entire code for the tag squishing

[teal plover]

maybe take a look at betmma's voucher mod? in that mod they made a voucher that redeems 2 random vouchers, and they seem to get put in some kind of queue in the center of the screen

[clear hare]

yeah but that's a bit different from squishing since you have to interact with them rather than just animating them

Betmma's code is probably similar to Tag logic tbh

also nothing shows up anymore in Steamodded update, yippee

even when I run :register()

[teal plover]

this is how they do it

[junior river]

i have 14 hands -> this card will retrigger 13 times
i have canvas -> 20 joker retriggers
i have blueprint on canvas -> 21 joker retriggers
i have a X12 Photograph -> face card will give X12 mult while being retriggered 14*41 times
i will get ~2.8e+619X mult

anyways thanks incantation

[teal plover]

they seem to just create the voucher and automatically "play" it
(repost because i quickly got buried by screenshots lol)

is it not possible to apply some similar thing to bulk-using certain consumables?

[clear hare]

wait nvm that's just because I disabled everything

[junior river]

is this what you meant

i think righthook joker from the bunco mod is being endlessly retriggered

which retriggers canvas

which retriggers righthook joker

[clear hare]

No

I meant that Queen's Gambit created "ghost" cards

that were just buggy

because they weren't being removed properly

[junior river]

ohh

[teal plover]

righthook joker iirc retriggers the rightmost played card per remaining hand, not retriggering jokers

[junior river]

wait nevermind lol

[clear hare]

yeah you just have BIG retrigger

also bunco not crashing with this is BIG fun

I need to test out modpacking this up

[junior river]

remember the handy tool

queens gambit and canvas

[clear hare]

well first I have to make sure Cryptid (the spectral) works

[teal plover]

i just got another one earlier and i was able to use it

[clear hare]

ok

my guess is that some value was changed that... uh.. shouldn't be

[teal plover]

aka; the target amount (how many cards you can choose to target)

[junior river]

Did i win?

ask yourself

[clear hare]

not yet

[junior river]

who truly won now

[clear hare]

you need naneinf

[junior river]

you did beat the blind

but for what?

all that time and effort and scoring animations without disabling scoring animations

oh god i just had a cursed idea

[teal plover]

satisfaction

[junior river]

i just need burglar

[clear hare]

yeah max_highlighted was probably changed but not communicated in the description

[junior river]

and then this whole thing

is busted

[teal plover]

also can we do something about the deck rendering?

how hard would it be to clamp how tall the deck can render?

[clear hare]

not too hard

probably just do pack/tag thing

it'll still be laggy though

[teal plover]

no, i don't mean squeezing the cards together

i mean a cap on how many cards the deck can render

(aka; visually draw on the screen)

[junior river]

Do i win?

[tired cedar]

bunco is compatible with 1.0?

[clear hare]

it'll probably force Jolly instead

[junior river]

nvm but also Oh My

[clear hare]

also I'm 99% confident that this is preventing epic jokers from spawning

[tired cedar]

(and cryptid)

[junior river]

Oh.

damnit

[clear hare]

or just not working

[junior river]

it doesnt even prevent commons from appearing

i keep seeing em

[clear hare]

yep

[tired cedar]

how rare are epics?

[clear hare]

0.7% per Joker in shop

iirc

[tired cedar]

i assume exotics are only from the one spectral card

(which ive never seen before lol)

[tired cedar]

thats like
a fifth of the rare amount about right

[clear hare]

ye

[tired cedar]

getting 2 different exotics is impossible then, right?

(other than through equilibrium deck and antimatter deck ofc)

[clear hare]

yes, until eternal-setting spectrals are added

[brave ibex]

It’s possible with eternal spectral (SoonTM)

[tired cedar]

i assume the exotic soul is the same rarity as the soul?

[brave ibex]

Yeah it is

Spectral packs only too

[tired cedar]

is white hole also like that

[brave ibex]

Yep

[teal plover]

white hole has appeared for me several times in celestial packs

[clear hare]

White Hole is celestial+spectral

like Black Hole

[clear hare]

fixed it (the effect should also be changed)

[teal plover]

excellent
while i do like all these jokers and decks you've been adding, do you think maybe we could start adding other things?

[clear hare]

hmmm

[clear hare]

ye

will at least start adding boss blinds in 0.4

[teal plover]

i'd love some new consumables as well

[clear hare]

ye, there'll be some more variance introduced in 0.4

and I fixed an issue with some of the numbers on consumables being weird

I think this should be the last bugfix patch needed before I upgrade to 0.3.2, but please keep sending me the bug reports

[teal plover]

sure. should i do assets for the planet suit cards?

[clear hare]

sure

S is done so take a look at that

[teal plover]

i know spade is already done, but i had a different approach in mind for the style of the card

so i'll do all 4 anyway and see what you think

[junior river]

@clear hare you said my run would only be won if i got naneinf. does it count if it crashes instead?

[clear hare]

alr

[clear hare]

yes

[junior river]

i had like

3000 hands

so thats alot of retriggers

[clear hare]

hands UI is so long lol

[junior river]

oh and i had boredom

3 canvases

5 blueprints

photograph

all the good signs of a run that will brick my laptop

almost forgot, i also had business card, 2 fiendish jokers (from bunco, doubles all money but sometimes gives $1 instead of the reward)

the problem was business card

[clear hare]

ok I think I cooked up the craziest 1.0 modpack

based on what's out right now

Betmma Mods
Bunco
Cryptid
MystBlinds and House Rules
MathBlinds
SDM_0's Stuff

[severe mesa]

Take the clicker heroes approach

Also when's the murphy stream?

[clear hare]

not today

[teal plover]

dear god no

[clear hare]

so many blinds lmao

and this is before I add any

[teal plover]

think it's gonna need another page when you get to doing it

[junior river]

oh damn really?

So?

[clear hare]

no it'll just shrink

[teal plover]

s h r o n k

[clear hare]

house rules was causing crashes but the rest work in the menu at least

[teal plover]

do you mind if i give the suit planets a different name other than just "Planet (initial)"?

[clear hare]

no

if you have a design for it then go for it

[junior river]

hmmm

i just wanted to put a purple seal on a card

but i couldnt

so i just used it without selecting anything

[teal plover]

update cryptid, the issue's been fixed already

[clear hare]

I got "all enhanced cards are debuffed" twice in a row from different mods

The Radical in MathBlinds and The Stone in MystBlinds

one of them uses a capital E and one of them uses a lowercase e

[brave ibex]

Lol

[rigid obsidian]

The Flame in Bunco

[brave ibex]

We better than that, cryptid bosses gonna be the most unfair 💪

The Axe: 1x base, permanently debuff all cards held in hand when defeated

[lime inlet]

Boss blind idea
Every hand, disables all Jokers of a certain rarity

[clear hare]

we have that already I think

not randomized though

[lime inlet]

like in the sheet?

or somewhere else

[clear hare]

sheet

[lime inlet]

lmao i see

[teal plover]

@clear hare how's this for the heart planet card?

[clear hare]

really good

[teal plover]

"sydan" is finnish for "heart"

[brave ibex]

Man I was gonna get to finishing those this weekend 😔

[teal plover]

sorry if i stole your job

[brave ibex]

Np, I can finish mine and they can coexist lol

[lime inlet]

The Creature
Combines the effect of 2 random Cryptid Boss Blinds

[brave ibex]

I say rework obsidian orb to: all jokers debuffed until a straight is played

[clear hare]

SCAMMED

[teal plover]

the pure is an incredibly stupid blind

[lime inlet]

lmao

[clear hare]

Cryptid-tier blind difficulty

[teal plover]

there's literally no reason for the blind to also include jokers

[lime inlet]

The ???
Fucking die

[brave ibex]

It’s more fun :) (easier to code)

[teal plover]

just to satisfy curiosity, the names of the others in finnish:

: "lapio"
: "klubi"
: "timantti"

[clear hare]

those also work well for planets

[teal plover]

yeah, i'll be designing the rest of the cards with those in mind

[clear hare]

I mean my straights and flushes one shot becuase I have misprint deck

but if this was later I'd be dead

[teal plover]

still, there's no reason for that blind to consider jokers as well

[lime inlet]

i mean i simple fix would just be adding "playing" to card

[brave ibex]

Sapphire stamp rework: mult cannot exceed chips

[teal plover]

there's balanced, unbalanced, and then just way beyond unbalanced to the point it's not even funny

and that's what the pure is; it's just too unbalanced to the point it's not even funny

[brave ibex]

It’s a little funny

I think it could work at 0.5x base

[teal plover]

it won't work at any base

[oak herald]

i was looking for other 1.0 mods, thanks 👍

[lime inlet]

imagine a boss blind that uses your sell value against you

[teal plover]

"your sell value"

how much does a human being sitting behind a monitor cost 🤔

[lime inlet]

good thing the 1800s exist

[dull mural]

2$

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-bob-take-it-or-leave-it-pal-take-it-or-leave-it-you-decide-gif-25944379

[clear hare]

House Rules doesn't work btw

if you want to set up this pack

[oak herald]

thanks for the information

[rigid obsidian]

the sum of their parts

[brave ibex]

Have any of those mods added canvas support though is the question

[silver cobalt]

nice - if played hand contains a 6 and a 9, +420 chips

its just a really stupid idea i got

[grim tendon]

can we post blind ideas for this mod

[lime inlet]

Set Boss Blind requirements to 69 if current money is divisible by 420

:)

[brave ibex]

Go ahead

There’s already lots

[grim tendon]

Seafoam Soap (Ante 8 Boss Blind): All enhancements, seals, and editions are removed for this blind

[lime inlet]

just realized

[dull mural]

go for permanently if you wanna fuck over endless runs

or just runs in general

[lime inlet]

i still don't know what the naming scheme for final boss blinds

[grim tendon]

Color Object

[brave ibex]

There isn’t one

[dull mural]

the violet is just a colour though?

[grim tendon]

Has to have alliteration

[brave ibex]

Besides colors but we will run out of those eventually

[brave ibex]

Kid named verdant leaf

[lime inlet]

we got about 60 million of those left

[grim tendon]

Ruby Root: All cards from your starting deck are debuffed

[dull mural]

crimson heart exists

[grim tendon]

Saffron Summit: Top 10 most played cards are debuffed

[clear hare]

nah

[dull mural]

easy cavendish lmao

[clear hare]

most jokers should be like that out of the box

[grim tendon]

better than wrathful joker

[clear hare]

just some effects don't work like that by default

hmm

[silver cobalt]

actually its color and then archaic suit

the ingame ones are based off of german and spanish suits

any suit that that predates the french suits is fair game

[clear hare]

also this voucher is working wonders

[dull mural]

hm
if youre getting over 300% consitently thats kinda bad?
cuz at that point you want to add negative to your jokers no?

[dusty plover]

i coudnt get betmma vouchers to work on 1.0.0

i'll try again later since it seems to be working for you

[clear hare]

holy hell

[dull mural]

now thats strong

rich get richer voucher

[brave ibex]

Doe gonna go crazy if multiple can stack

[clear hare]

oops

[dull mural]

choose one 🔫

[clear hare]

ok DoE time

actually screw it, antimatter deck time

[teal plover]

now you know my pain

betmma vouchers also has a voucher which adds +1 booster pack, i haven't seen if it interferes with the pack joker yet

[dull mural]

i just lost a 1 in 11 banana in 1 round

[teal plover]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-kek-rng-laughing-out-loud-lolol-gif-21324714

gros michel literally just d out

[jagged garden]

Yea happens lol

[teal plover]

@clear hare confirmed that booster joker does not conflict with the 3d boosters voucher from betmma
though, 4D boosters (the one that allows pack rerolling) only still spawns 3 packs, and the amount of cards contained in them will be vanilla amount (no misprint, though # of choices will still be random)

[clear hare]

It probably uses its own spawning logic

Also these all work with Talisman which is good

[cold sandal]

Ambidexterous

2x

[teal plover]

@clear hare using cheat engine to slow the game down to 10% gives an oddly satisfying result

[brave ibex]

machinegun

[clear hare]

woah

I'm surprised the slowdown affects the in-game speed of the cards being drawn

[teal plover]

here's with the cards being drawn

[lime inlet]

im surprised no one talked about the font

[clear hare]

Balatro 1.0.1 made CustomFont so much smoother

it was like blurry before

[lime inlet]

that just looks like a black hole sucking in matter

[teal plover]

the rainbow emerging was probably the best part

looked so satisfying to watch

[clear hare]

Choose 0.1

[teal plover]

speaking of which, maybe round it up? since the number of choices technically rounds up

i find it funny though that discards also round up, but not hands

[rough violet]

what will happen if you get an eternal banana joker

[clear hare]

it'll die when it goes extinct still

[teal plover]

https://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/1896900/super-mario-ds-original-1

i thought it fit well for balatro; still pixelated but looks more funky

[clear hare]

that reminds me I need to add a few more mods to that list

do you think score calculator is worth it if it won't work on most modded jokers

probs not

[oak herald]

for some reason, plasma/sync catalyst deck remind me of peggle

specifically the "SCORE TRIPLED!" from warren

[rough violet]

i mean the banana sticker

[clear hare]

oh

same thing

[teal plover]

i don't really like live score calculation either way, unless if it only calculated the initial score (aka score w/o considering any jokers)

[rough violet]

also if a joker dies with banana sticker should it be prevented from appearing for the rest of the run

like normal banana

[clear hare]

agreed, just want to see how many mods the game can handle lol

[teal plover]

please, no.

that sounds awful

[clear hare]

probably too complex for a sticker

Updated list BTW (basically just added a few utility mods)
Ankh
Betmma Mods
Brainstorm
Bunco
Custom Font
Cryptid
MathBlinds
MystBlinds
SDM_0's Stuff

let's see if this can load

[oak herald]

for some reason i thought of a challenge idea

start with antimatter deck, but scaling is 10/100x as fast

[teal plover]

@clear hare made a few fixes

[rough violet]

planet h

why tf did i think this was a knight from chess

[teal plover]

lol

indeed it is planet h, but i called it sydan just to make it a bit more unique instead of just "planet" followed with the initial of a suit

sydan is finnish for heart

[fossil whale]

the decimals from misprint are SO FUNNY and cursed to look at

[brave ibex]

i'm almost done with planet D, just need to do a few finishing touches to it and make some tweaks to it, neutron star, and Planet.Lua

[fossil whale]

dont EVER smoke no zaza from perkeo man got DAMN 💀

my ass got sent to the infinite card dimension!! NOT worth!! /j

"choose 0.1" while you're forced to draw an entire casino's worth of cards really is the icing on the cake

[teal plover]

it rounds up, so "choose 0.1" effectively means "choose 1"

[brave ibex]

i like to imagine something like a half joker situation happening

[soft night]

hey cryptid gang

[fossil whale]

choose one:

• Deja
• Au
• Wor

[teal plover]

alright, i'm going to try and draw planet S now, or "lapio" as i'll call it

[soft night]

what do we think about these:

Quasar (Spectral)
Create a Negative copy of the next 3 Planet cards you use.
Rune (Spectral)
Create a Negative copy of the next 3 Tarot cards you use.
Necromancy (Spectral)
Create a Negative copy of the next Spectral card you use.

[brave ibex]

wor

[fossil whale]

[soft night]

a visitor?

hm. indeed. i have slept long enough

[fossil whale]

[muffled voice from within soul card] this prison. to hold. ME?

[pre-buff yorick bursts free]

[brave ibex]

looks good

[soft night]

[================PERKEO PRIME================]

[fossil whale]

oh no

[soft night]

OH YES

[soft night]

do they sound fun/balanced

[brave ibex]

they sound fun

[thin sigil]

Haunt: Creates a random negative eternal joker

[soft night]

necromancy soul

[thin sigil]

Miasma: Destroy a random joker with an enhancement, give that enhancement to 2 other jokers

[fossil whale]

one of these days someone is going to run cryptid balatro on their neuralink and not be able to quit out of the game until they finish drawing 1000 cards, playing one tenth of a tarot, and putting 1000 cards back

jonk mirror

[brave ibex]

How would multiple copies work though? would they stack or increase to 6 planets or

[soft night]

wdym

oh, youre referring to like

ok so

[teal plover]

he means, if you used more than one, would it either:
🅰️ : create another separate instance of "next 3 cards will give negative copy" (so using one would create more than one negative copy)
or
🅱️ : adds onto existing instance's duration

[soft night]

i think it'd stack onto itself

not duration

so like

-P -P -P
-P -P -P

where the third one of the first one and the first one of the second one overlap, two are created

[teal plover]

yes, that's what i mean by instances

[soft night]

so yeah, A

thanks for clarifying

[teal plover]

yw

currently making the lapio planet card

[soft night]

nice

imma do art for quasar, rune, and necromancy and then add those to the concepting sheet

[teal plover]

one thing i'm avoiding is making the planets perfectly identical in shape to the suit they represent

[thin sigil]

good

[soft night]

make it so that the convex lines are concave and vice versa

[teal plover]

what i'm doing is just making them look a bit more "pillowed"

[soft night]

ah

[brave ibex]

@soft night we have answer that is currently unused if you're interested in that

[teal plover]

for example here

it looks a lot more rounded and pillowed

overlayed on the ace sprite for comparison

[soft night]

spawn a copy of the two most powerful cards in your deck

tracks enhancements, seals, editions, and ranks

[brave ibex]

Alr Revamped planets (Most of these are Minor changes)

[lime inlet]

and how do you measure how powerful a card is?

i wanna know

[brave ibex]

• Planet D

[soft night]

1. Ranks
   self explanatory, aces to twos

2. Enhancements
   any one will be counted equally

3. Seals
   will try to target red seals over others

4. Editions
   polychrome > holo > foil

[summer cargo]

🤔

[soft night]

ranks are considered the least and serve as a tiebreaker

[lime inlet]

hiker might throw a wrench in that rank category

[soft night]

hm true

[lime inlet]

also rank specific builds like wee and fibo might cause issues

[thin sigil]

j

[soft night]

would it be out of the question to have it consider joker synergies too

[teal plover]

i mean, where do you even start with programming all of these factors to take into consideration when duplicating the "most powerful card"?

[soft night]

i was going by the card art that was shown to me

[lime inlet]

maybe the card that scores the most would be somewhat important

but that doesn't take into consideration like econ

[soft night]

ok how about this

create a copy of the two most played cards in your deck

[lime inlet]

eh good enough

[brave ibex]

alr added it in as this effect

[clear hare]

Cryptid in 2026

[summer cargo]

christ

[clear hare]

this message deserves a pin

anyway let me try that idea of a stupid big 1.0 modpack on deck of equilibrium

[lime inlet]

the fact that misprint allows "natural" tarot looping is hilarious

[tired cedar]

green very fair deck!

why did it capture snipping tool lol

[brave ibex]

gg

[tired cedar]

this deck is so silly you have to reset so much

[clear hare]

burglar carry

[tired cedar]

yeah all 3 wins have had burglar lol

[clear hare]

but yeah this is the second hardest deck in balatro I think

[tired cedar]

i mean i imagine its not strictly necessary

[clear hare]

there was another mod with 1 hand, 1 discard deck

[tired cedar]

this has no voucher too tho

[clear hare]

yeah, but restricting hands further is harder probably

[tired cedar]

im not fully certain

[lime inlet]

it was really hard to complete, even while seeded

[clear hare]

and then there's Balatro University

who did a discardless golden needle run

[tired cedar]

seeded i bet you could beat very fair on gold

[clear hare]

seeded you could probably beat it on ascendant stake

[lime inlet]

lol BU did almost all of my meta challenge ideas

[tired cedar]

what exotic are you immediately rolling to beat ascendant stake

[clear hare]

iterum

[lime inlet]

Speculo or Redeo tbh

[clear hare]

honestly iterum splash might be close to enough

[lime inlet]

redeo allows near infinite preperation time

[tired cedar]

i mean actually the rare that turns all of your numbers into 10s is insane and probably carries you if you get it alone

[clear hare]

with the X2 Buff as well

iterum maximized is probably already in the millions and doesn't need much to search for

[lime inlet]

the ante scaling definitely needs to be buffed for this mod

[tired cedar]

like endless? probably yeah

[lime inlet]

you can easily win antes in the tens of thousands with a decent exotic build

i got bored once and used debug to go to ante 11k and won no prob

[tired cedar]

i mean to get an exotic build you have to either be on deck of equilibrium/antimatter

[clear hare]

or round 1 gateway

from insane luck

[lime inlet]

considering how many antes you have to get said Jokers, it won't be that difficult

[tired cedar]

round 1 gateway still isn't an exotic build is it? its one exotic joker

[lime inlet]

exotics ARE the build

[tired cedar]

is 1 exotic really enough?

to get that far

[lime inlet]

double scale allows so many things to happen

[tired cedar]

out of the ones i can think of speculo and the planet one seem like the only ones

ig maybe double scale

on the exponent one

[cold sandal]

ykw I feel like doing right now

[tired cedar]

r simulator

[lime inlet]

if we're talking exotics on the sheet, incrementum, rescribere, etc can go wild

[teal plover]

almost done lapio/planet S

[brave ibex]

I don’t think rescribere is gonna happen lmao

[clear hare]

who shuffled this deck?

[summer cargo]

pluto

[teal plover]

i did, probably.

[clear hare]

NB going to be at $10 in one round

[brave ibex]

Most balanced epic