Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]

[brave ibex]

[green thunder]

orbies enjoyers starving today

[clear hare]

I think I fixed it

lemme just spawn 5 pickles and check

[soft night]

hey so

is it possible to give tier 3 vouchers the fire effect when they appear

blue fire in particular, or maybe corresponding to voucher color itself

i think itd be cool

[clear hare]

possible? yep

I'll see how hard it is to implement when I get to it

[soft night]

hella sick thanks math

[clear hare]

orbital tags work now

[soft night]

\o/

pickl

[clear hare]

next up is cube

[green thunder]

tag enjoyers:

[weak burrow]

Ngl pickle is busted for buffoon packs

[clear hare]

setting a cost to a negative number works fine let's go

trying to get this rendering to work

[weak burrow]

Seeing a normal joker in Cryptid is weird lmao

[clear hare]

Cube (Eternal) (Zoom In)

@cold sandal the eternal sticker is like 1 pixel large

[tired cedar]

this is a very balanced mod lol

[clear hare]

it looks so cute in the shop

ankh committed a war crime

[brave ibex]

they will never suspect the eternal jumpscare

[clear hare]

this is so troll

I love it

[brave ibex]

same thing happens to wee, don't think it's been fixed yet

[gray elm]

The card hitbox is the same as the card art right?

[clear hare]

ye

roughly

[tired cedar]

is there a hard limit to how many cards can be in your deck

[clear hare]

no

you can only fit 500 in the discard pile though

so if you draw more than 500 some just stay there

[tired cedar]

what about negative antes?

[cold sandal]

[tired cedar]

i actually crashed out from creating too many cards with dna before i got to see it lol

[gray elm]

Joker of a Joker of a Joker of a... (epic) x1 mult for each individual joker (currently x1), give current xmult to every multiple of the same joker

Help me word thisss

[clear hare]

alr that's probably going to be it for me for tonight, will get to some more tmrw

[brave ibex]

vv and tt (suggtions) finished, gonna head off too

as i'va said a lot of these probably gonna need diff effects but they're fun to do until then

[cloud granite]

Did you sit through all the -ante animations or is there a way to skip them?

[lime inlet]

i forgot if i had animation skip but it went relatively quick

[cloud granite]

I use animation skip and cheat engine speedhack and it takes a lot of time

Still didn't count even once

Maybe I just have too much

[rough violet]

i can die happily knowing i made a very minor contribution to this mod

[lime inlet]

never would've thought this deck would be so good

[cloud granite]

My contribution is even lower - I made Findere better (but it wasn't my idea)

[lime inlet]

judging from the deck ideas alone, my contributions will rise rapidly

[cloud granite]

I wanted to make some art for things in this mod but I don't know how and don't have much time (will have more later though)

[weak burrow]

Does making the first exotic count for something?

Iterum goated

[cloud granite]

Yeah, it counts towards the made exotic stat

[weak burrow]

Stonks

[lime inlet]

im proud for having 62 entries in the main sheet

[weak burrow]

I mean weren't most of them decks and keys?

[cloud granite]

Don't forget to share your best life stats when your run is over

[weak burrow]

Maybe stakes too

[lime inlet]

i mean i put like 12 exotics

[weak burrow]

Oh nice

[cloud granite]

Oh, right, I may have also nerfed ERROR

[weak burrow]

What is un nerfed error

[true harness]

negative antes = ante 0

[cloud granite]

Clone all owned jokers except for ERROR (copies are negative)

[lime inlet]

also the whole infinite duping bug

[weak burrow]

Isn't that what it does just with negatives?

[cloud granite]

I don't remember if it clones all jokers today, I think no

[weak burrow]

What's happening? (after a random number of rounds, sell this Joker to create a negative copy of every Joker) that's what the sheet says

[lime inlet]

well rn copies aren't negative

[cloud granite]

It wasn't updated I guess

[lime inlet]

iirc it was a bug turned "nerf"

[thin sigil]

Toss Up: Changes all listed probability in the game to 1/2 (overrides Oops! All 6's)

(uncommon)

[teal plover]

it's so funny when the pitch of the sound effects rise to the point it sort of wraps back around

[thin sigil]

somebody should add in a "skip score" button
Like in sugar crush

[teal plover]

that's already a thing

[thin sigil]

oh

[teal plover]

but note that extremely long-winded combos (especially with canvas) may still take a bit of time to process

just obviously not to the point it takes an eternity to finish

[thin sigil]

lol

[teal plover]

typing noises intensify

just call it the chicago typewriter

[thin sigil]

afast af

[teal plover]

yeah, i have the game speed set to x64

[thin sigil]

bruh

[gray elm]

Already in the suggestion sheet

[thin sigil]

yeah i added it

[gray elm]

No look at line 121

[thin sigil]

?

[gray elm]

In the suggestion sheet

[gray elm]

Yea

[thin sigil]

BRUH

welll

okay

[gray elm]

[thin sigil]

not bragging, but I think toss up is a better name tho

tbh how did we come up with the same ability lol

[gray elm]

Great minds think alike or something

[thin sigil]

haha

[teal plover]

just watching how long this takes out of curiosity

[gray elm]

Also im bad at english and your description is way better

[thin sigil]

thanks

[teal plover]

i can't speed up the process any further with cheat engine, the game can only process instructions so fast

just listen to the pitch of those sound effects lol

i feel if it gets any higher it's gonna turn into static noise or something

[weak burrow]

Is this with the more speeds mod? How did you add 64 then

[teal plover]

i modified it to add more

it's easier than you think

[weak burrow]

I want to too but I don't understand code

Teach me the ways

[teal plover]

@clear hare planet acclimator
although, "acclimator" is not an actual word. perhaps "magnate" works better?

[gray elm]

Acclimate is

[native lotus]

damn, thats fucking beautiful

[teal plover]

thanks

[teal plover]

i know, i'm not the one who gave it said name, just going off by the sheet. :p

[teal plover]

@clear hare would "tarot cultist" be a better fit?

[rough violet]

my idea for tarot cultist and planet acclimator was maybe increaing pack rates too

[teal plover]

that's already on the sheet

i think "planet magnate" sounds better

[rough violet]

huh

no i was saying to change the effect to increased pack rate

[teal plover]

why just pack rate?

[rough violet]

maybe both

planet cards x8 celestial packs x2

[teal plover]

oh, i see what you mean now

in all honesty; i don't like that idea

because then you have to ask about spectral cards

they're already scarce enough as they are on most decks

making other packs appear more frequently would make them even rarer

[rough violet]

planet tycoon makes tarot cards rarer

and if on ghost, spectrals

[teal plover]

yes, but that's standalone cards, packs are not affected for a reason

[rough violet]

besides the packs will most likely have things you dont need

like hex and incantation

[teal plover]

so how am i going to get seals effectively? there's quite a fair amount of spectrals that add a seal onto a card

i use seals a lot

[rough violet]

dont buy it

[strange oxide]

sorry what...

[rough violet]

if you already took planet tycoon you're already focused on planets

might as well increase the amount of packs

[teal plover]

no, i don't want planet packs to be more frequent even if i'm focused on them

[clear hare]

why is it line 300 tho?

[green thunder]

planet aggregator

[rough violet]

planet overlord

[clear hare]

planet god

tarot god

[green thunder]

tarot monopolist

[clear hare]

oh yeah someone said they wanted conveyor deck to go right to left right?

I think I did that now

alr time to add more jokers

murph said he'll likely play this tonight so I'm not going to sweat over the last 8 stakes today I don't think

(and we still need stake sticker textures for them lol)

[rough violet]

jimbo stake!!!

[clear hare]

changing ascendant stake to jimbo stake rn

[teal plover]

"I'm literally a fool, what's your excuse?"

[strange oxide]

You're literally a fool, what's my excuse?

[rough violet]

pog

[clear hare]

tbh I'll just add that as like a final boss

maybe reword ascendant stake and make that "start with an eternal Joker"

[rough violet]

You're literally an excuse, what's my fool?

[raven wedge]

parappa

[rough violet]

lmfao

[clear hare]

I'm literally an excuse, what's your fool?

[severe mesa]

this out of everything?

[clear hare]

ye

and I fixed it too

[raven wedge]

I'm literally you, what's a fool's excuse?

[teal plover]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-joker-balatro-joker-jimbo-jimbo-the-joker-gif-15307096256787117908

[oak herald]

https://tenor.com/view/blueprint-joker-balatro-heart-gif-locket-gif-8056449517919400500

[raven wedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/297211351116414979/1240130980275159061/jonker.gif

[severe mesa]

[raven wedge]

WAIT i can actually play cryptid

porting houserules should be really easy

this is the entire init function

[clear hare]

just remove SMODS.INIT

surely

[teal plover]

should this card be named "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissssssssssssssssssss"?

[severe mesa]

what does "more speed" speed up

[raven wedge]

unironically

[rough violet]

put a column of erises from the top highlighted part

so it leaks into the rest of the card

[teal plover]

is this a good voucher?

i call it "redemption"

[rough violet]

gives you a tenth of all base vouchers

[clear hare]

-0.1 ante

next joker

[rough violet]

that stuff already happen in cryptid so its fine

[rough violet]

very cool

[clear hare]

so this should work (surely)

[rough violet]

probably

[clear hare]

beautiful

[strange oxide]

adds more options for the game speed like 3x, 8x and 16x

[native lotus]

omfg cube is in game

rejoyce

[clear hare]

ok for the remaining jokers I'm thinking Booster Joker, Chili Pepper, Big Cube, and Compound Interest

[native lotus]

damn, my silly with "booster bocker" didn't go through 😔

[rough violet]

m and M are so funny lmao

[native lotus]

m

[clear hare]

M

I made this as big as an actual booster

wait it's a bit bigger

[granite ibex]

booster packs are the same size as normal cards

[raven wedge]

okay time to play cryptid

blindish

fuck

[clear hare]

no, they're slightly bigger

[teal plover]

should we consider making jokers called ᴹ, ₘ, ℳ, Ⓜ, 𝕄, 𝕸, Ḿ, Ṁ, and Ṃ?

[clear hare]

"em"

[rigid obsidian]

most/all of those would require changes to the games font

[teal plover]

then substitute it, like "Fraktur M" for 𝕸

[clear hare]

also this looks a little thicker than booster packs

[teal plover]

thicc

[clear hare]

it works for now though

[teal plover]

can't wait to use canvas to massproduce packs

[clear hare]

me when I'm unable to select a pack

because there's too many

alr chili pepper next

[summer cargo]

time to breask out the controller

[teal plover]

@clear hare will this ever be fixed

[clear hare]

yes

[teal plover]

run-killing bugs should really be prioritised

[clear hare]

I've tried to patch every bug I've seen here

I still don't fully understand why this bug in particular happens

since I do try to fix it in the code

[teal plover]

can i help in some way?

[summer cargo]

stupid idea, just lowerbound it to 1 when entering the spectral pack menu

[teal plover]

i do have a background in lua

[clear hare]

that's what I did

I was using math.max now just going to try a simple if statement

also now that I'm looking at it misprint deck isn't as ranodm as it should be

only ranges from ~X0.37-X3 when I want it to be X0.1-X10

fixing that too

[raven wedge]

a lot of base game jokers are hardcoded haha

[clear hare]

turns out that was actually related to a talisman bug

lmao

[severe mesa]

ante 2 setup 🤔

[teal plover]

.

[clear hare]

yep

[teal plover]

i'll update talisman when you fix it, just let me know

[clear hare]

you won't need to

I also fixed it in cryptid itself

but the bug wouldn't have happened without talisman lmao

[teal plover]

so should i update cryptid now?

[clear hare]

I didn't commit the change yet

still don't know what's causing the packs to be crazy

fixed it

[teal plover]

holy shit that's one dense pack

[severe mesa]

OH SHOOT

[brave ibex]

Insane hits

[severe mesa]

um...

[empty fern]

i had just sorted them PERFECTLY dude..

[severe mesa]

423/1119.4 is crazy

[empty fern]

all this fuckers fault smh

selling them after this round istg

this is fucking crazy 😭

[severe mesa]

oh shoot I might be affected

[severe mesa]

wait what's that one

I don't have latest version so I'm missing like three exotics

[empty fern]

dude you gotta download the latest version its insane
thats canvas

||retreggers all jokers to the left of it once for every non-common joker to the right of it||

[severe mesa]

jolly joker overtook half joker 😭

[severe mesa]

I meant speculo

see which message I replied to (smh)

[empty fern]

oh mb

basically perkeo but for jokers

can be retriggered the same way perkeo can
but cant dupe itself im pretty sure

basically infinite jokers

[severe mesa]

and I assume it's post-canvas nerf

[empty fern]

yea but still insane

[lusty fjord]

queen's gambit joker just crashes my game whenever i play a hand

these are my jokers if it matter

[brave ibex]

Math is aware of the bug, for now just sell queen's gmbit as that's what's causing it

[lusty fjord]

ok

[severe mesa]

rip run

[lusty fjord]

why?

[severe mesa]

wait a sec

nvm, I forgot you can just recover the save after it crashes

I'm maining antimatter deck which causes extreme instability

[clear hare]

Fixed in next version

That I’ll publish

[brave ibex]

lmfao all the non cryptid players gonna have questions

imagine showing them that

[empty fern]

update: I FINALLY DID IT..

[brave ibex]

speculo troll 😈

amber acorn prank

[clear hare]

top satisfying images

[empty fern]

MY GAME CRSHED.

I HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN.

[severe mesa]

you got the image, that's what matters

[empty fern]

you know what nevermind im resetting the run

[severe mesa]

status update - scoring finished!

now I just gotta wait for ~3400 gold card triggers

[clear hare]

next joker

triplet rhythm looks so cool polychrome

[brave ibex]

negative cube lmao

[severe mesa]

hmm, I wonder which one that really small one is (amber acorn has no chance)

[clear hare]

(costs -$25, always eternal in shops)

misprint deck the goat

[severe mesa]

status update 2 -

WAIT NO IT STOPPED

COME BACK

nice. it came back

[clear hare]

ok last joker for this version: big cube

[severe mesa]

status update 3 -

possible reason: I clicked view deck and the cards immediately went from being removed from my hand to being added to deck

but now the save is updated so I can reload

hopefully

s bruh

[brave ibex]

can you still go next round

might fix itself there

[clear hare]

the game only lets you put 500 cards in your discard pile

so the rest just remain in your hand

should I patch this?

[brave ibex]

maybe, but also idk if a situation like this would even happen outside of antimatter deck

maybe something for post 0.3

[severe mesa]

goodbye run

[clear hare]

well it's just one number

that I can just change

[brave ibex]

i sy go for it then

[clear hare]

PERFECT

who gave this thing a glow up?

[brave ibex]

"don't mess with me or my son ever again"

kinda vibes

[clear hare]

hmmm

[gray elm]

just dont play

[oak herald]

new misprint deck is pure chaos

is it safe to update from source

[clear hare]

it should be

I'm still bugfixing but there's been less of them

[teal plover]

@clear hare new issue, related to pickle

reroll tags can cause multiple packs to open simultaneously, causing strange behaviour and crashes

[clear hare]

of all things, reroll tags?

[teal plover]

yes, the boss reroll tags

[clear hare]

I'll just disable them from spawning

because tbh this is a vanilla bug and probably an annoying one to fix

[teal plover]

it feels like a bad idea to have pickles give reroll tags anyway

[clear hare]

alr

[teal plover]

thankfully it doesn't brick my run, i can back out and reload to fix it

[clear hare]

bug should be fixed now in 0.2.3l

And I added all of the other jokers you've seen in screenshots

[teal plover]

i'll download it asap

nevermind it did brick my run

[clear hare]

:f:

ok I think I'll add the four suit decks and then push 0.3 assuming there's no bugs ppl find

[brave ibex]

im assuming those gonna be ignored for antimatter xd

[clear hare]

they all cancel out

and checkered deck exists

[brave ibex]

yeah that's what i thought too

antimatter deck might be the most op thing in cryptid with canvas right next to it

[teal plover]

just downloaded the latest version on main branch, does it include the fix with booster packs?

[brave ibex]

it should, the May 30th one right

[teal plover]

the one pushed out just 3 minutes ago

[clear hare]

actually do you know what those decks will add

the suit bosses can't appear

[brave ibex]

oh yeah true

[lusty fjord]

the eye crashes my game on deck of equillibrium

is it actualy the boss blind or something else?

[brave ibex]

i think it's the boss blind

maybe a talisman bug? silimar to the flint from earlier

[summer cargo]

Honestly if I can make a suggestion, can we add the "transforms all cards into <X>" thing to all the other themed decks too just for the sake of giving them a bit of a gimmick

antimatter would pick at random

[brave ibex]

like the enchanced/seal decks? I vibe with that

[summer cargo]

yeah so e.g. if you're using the wild card deck, all cards will always be wild cards

edition/seal/suit can still vary, just not enhancement

might have to do some crossmod compat to ban myst boss blinds "debuff all enhanced cards"

[clear hare]

send a pic of the crash screen

[brave ibex]

that's already a thing in mystblinds 😭 I was gonna do one for that

might still do it anyway

+Math did test compatibility with mystblinds one time and fixed the one issue that came up so i think it is compatible

[clear hare]

the issue was just mystblinds

it wasn't even my mod

but it was patched

[clear hare]

I like this, probably not for 0.3 though

not sure if I'll have time

[strange oxide]

m

[teal plover]

@clear hare i can't click on the cube in buffoon pack

[clear hare]

click the middle of it

[teal plover]

i did

[clear hare]

rip

I'm going to change it so it appears only in shop, that makes more sense anyway with the gimmick

[teal plover]

mfw empty pack softlock still happens on modded packs

[clear hare]

:/

[empty fern]

these decks are gonna be so fun

me when the joker is jolly

[strange oxide]

not this again

[soft night]

how does it look negative?

[soft night]

HOLY SHIT that's cool

[strange oxide]

why...

[soft night]

also ive seen some mods put design/art credit as flavor text or as tags, will cryptid be doing the same?

[strange oxide]

might be mod incompat

[clear hare]

my plan is to make a menu for the credits similar to vanilla

and then also link to the spreadsheet

[brave ibex]

i think some (most?) of those mods are imcompatible with talisman

[soft night]

ah cool

[strange oxide]

yeah the same crash doesn't happen when i disable six suits

[clear hare]

oh I know why

it's because I pass card.ability.name as the identifier, which isn't required for modded cards

what was that function to get the ID of a card?

I have to migrate everything at some point to that but I'll start with this function

@strange oxide

[strange oxide]

card.config.center_key I think

or card.config.center.key, either will do

[clear hare]

ty

next version will fix this then

(and the other things I'll migrate later, so I expect Double Scale may also cause crashes)

[oak herald]

numberblocks

[clear hare]

number blocks

[brave ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/scrooge-donald-duck-swimming-in-money-gold-coins-gif-16654576

[clear hare]

ok let me see if all the fancy suit deck code works

[strange oxide]

Number blocks

[clear hare]

I'll also apply it to all of the other decks in 0.3.1

because I have to manually add code for that for enhancements, editions, seals, and stickers

yeah something is wrong

actually that's because standard packs don't even use this function

much better

now time to do that 3 more times

[junior river]

wee

[soft night]

weeew

[junior river]

how do i prevent buffoon packs softlocking and ending my runs

(misprint deck)

[severe mesa]

do I take?

[clear hare]

update cryptid

[severe mesa]

wait for 0.3.0

[clear hare]

yep

[severe mesa]

I mean I can't add it to consumes so...

[clear hare]

actually I have some more time so lemme see if I can get this working with enhancements, editions, and seals

[soft night]

do it anyway itd be funny

wait yknow whatd be cool

if editioned booster packs contained items of that edition

and editioned consumables can be put into your consumables area

[junior river]

its fixed?

[clear hare]

ye

in the dev version

[junior river]

best flush ever

[brave ibex]

Did two more Ante 8 blinds: Lemon trophy (suggestions, Pink Bow (New :D, no effect yet)

[junior river]

is it worth

[brave ibex]

you might regret it

[soft night]

thats straight ass 💀

[charred topaz]

Does anyone know how to fix this ?

[junior river]

actual garbage, perhaps

[clear hare]

new enhancement things are working

editions next

[soft night]

HMMMM

[brave ibex]

Files might not be nested properly (Send mod folder so we can see), or maybe the Folders are not named correctly

just some common mistakes

[junior river]

amazing deal

[charred topaz]

It look like this

[brave ibex]

alr math does that look correct

[junior river]

balancing goes hard

[brave ibex]

maybe try using this mod folder

[clear hare]

ye

got this effect working with editions now

seals is the last thing

[brave ibex]

Time to seal the deal, now we relax and wait for friday 😎

[clear hare]

he said he might do it tonight

[brave ibex]

Friday hype:
Weekend
Murphy plays Cryptid

[charred topaz]

same error with this one

[junior river]

Common

[clear hare]

check that your Talisman folder is properly set up

[junior river]

my hanging chad retriggers 19 times

[clear hare]

Mods/Talisman not Mods/Talisman/Talisman

[brave ibex]

oh no way

everyone will see the peak that is boredom art

[junior river]

infinite mult glitch found no way

[charred topaz]

😦

[clear hare]

hmm

[soft night]

how do i get to the alpha versions of cryptid

[clear hare]

download source code

I'm releasing 0.3.0 in an hour or so though

just final changes and writing patch notes

[soft night]

i dont got an hour

im yoinking the source

im gonna play the funny error deck

[clear hare]

there was someone else who had that bug and wasn't able to fix it

can you try a full reinstall of lovely and your mods folder?

[charred topaz]

Ok i will try it and tell if that's worked

[clear hare]

lmk if y'all find bugs on 0.2.3m before I release 0.3

[empty fern]

this looks so cool wth??

[brave ibex]

I wonder if any modders have added canvas boredom compat to their mods yet

[soft night]

WHAT

[weak burrow]

i was updating and without even realizing im 2 minutes since last commit

[junior river]

WHAT

WHAT DID HIEROGLYPH JUST DO TO MY HANDS

[brave ibex]

Dw, it should be set to one when you select a blind

[soft night]

uh

[junior river]

yep ofcourse

[soft night]

OH MY GOD

[brave ibex]

Well at least it does in vanilla 😔

[weak burrow]

also math isnt the update package kinda useless if most updates happen with the source code?

[empty fern]

cavendish is on steroids

[soft night]

NICE

options

[junior river]

rip my Infinite hanging chad retrigger run

[soft night]

bro

[junior river]

joker on drugs

[charred topaz]

Actually worked thank you so much !

[strange oxide]

just don't play flushes, duh

[silver cobalt]

Misprint deck is just scary

[soft night]

YO

oh wait thats bad actually

[junior river]

best rare card ever

[weak burrow]

@clear hare does antimatter have the effects of plasma (i might have pinged you in a wrong channel but no one saw that xd)

[junior river]

yes

almost all of them are strength

[cloud granite]

It's free though

[cloud granite]

Because there's no other tarot game could spawn, it defaulted to Strength several times

[clear hare]

this doesn't look related to hieroglyph actually

i'm confused at this crash lol

[soft night]

i think it tried to spawn something weird, this happened after a reroll

[clear hare]

did you have Pickle this run by any chance?

[lime inlet]

uhhh

[soft night]

okay it just bricked the game

[strange oxide]

why has no one updated from 0523a 💀

[strange oxide]

don't press R on crash, it's broken

[soft night]

oh

[weak burrow]

aura updating steamodded only to see people not updating it xd

[strange oxide]

I should make it use the other reload logic tbh

[clear hare]

wait that bug might be 0523a then

[dusty plover]

nice

[clear hare]

considering I couldn't reproduce it before when I tried

[dusty plover]

devious joker being kinda decent for once

[strange oxide]

just in case, try on 0530f

[weak burrow]

i still dont understand exponentia canvas, somehow the best score i get is 3 6 which is better than 2 7 or 5 4

maybe a 1:2 ratio is the best

[lime inlet]

i keep getting every single tarot card in a pack

i love this game

[junior river]

me whem payout

[clear hare]

what Jokers did you have?

[junior river]

i had taken hieroglyph, got -0.3 hands and pressed next round and crashed

i did take error

[junior river]

payout joker

i forgort what it was called

[clear hare]

compound interest or redeo?

[junior river]

compound interest i think

[dusty plover]

wow

thanks for the options that i CANT SEE

[clear hare]

honestly, no idea why this is happening with Compound Interest in particular

oh wait you're on 0523a

update Steamodded! (the error is happening in Steamodded API)

wait this is the latest version

[lime inlet]

im boutta get very early enaneinf

lmao

[lime inlet]

ante 1 Inf

[junior river]

aint even started playing and im close to 1mil

[cloud granite]

Seed?

[lime inlet]

im not ded yet

maybe i can lose with debug+ then use the save file thing

seed is R2TKRR4J

lets go save states work on other runs

[clear hare]

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/releases/tag/v0.3.0

now to see if I can break this mod in the next half hour

[junior river]

WORTH

[clear hare]

they balanced campfire

this is a nice start

[lime inlet]

my compound interest is compound interesting the interest that is compounded

[clear hare]

wtf...

[soft night]

ah yes

[weak burrow]

also im big sad that iterum buff ended up not getting me the 11 joker inf

i thought it might just do it with all the activations i have

[lime inlet]

compound interest

[clear hare]

new negative ante strats?

[clear hare]

my worst enemy floating point

[lime inlet]

lol let's see how much it takes to get -1T ante again

[clear hare]

based

[soft night]

crash the economy

[lime inlet]

compound interest was just as broken as I thought when making the idea

i don't think wraith is handling my e20 money well

[junior river]

find the odd one

[clear hare]

choose 8.16

[junior river]

worst shit i've ever seen

[lime inlet]

nuh uh

[clear hare]

this is OP

[lime inlet]

lol

this is stupid on so many levels

bro what

[clear hare]

Isolated this bug myself, looks like it is from a Steamodded API change
Will fix when I get back home

[lime inlet]

i've been on round 1 for half an hour

how is this round 1 shop still going

[junior river]

OH MY GOD

[lime inlet]

help me

[dusty plover]

you better hit inf score round 1

[lime inlet]

im definitely doing that

huh

[junior river]

me whem

[lime inlet]

was this worth it? probably

[silver cobalt]

That was one hell of a speedrun

[cloud granite]

Don't know if that's on purpose, but with DoE/Antimatter deck, cube can appear not eternal

[junior river]

me whem

NOOOO TRIBOULET YOU COULD'VE BEEN GOATED

I MIGHT'VE HAD THE GOATED KINGS RUN!!!

[summer cargo]

Literally worse than useless, amazing

[junior river]

me when

IM LITERALLY GETTING MONEY NOW

[strange oxide]

9.000000

isn't this meant to show the hand type?

[clear hare]

rip, game couldn’t figure out your hand type

[junior river]

keep dna or get invis joker?

i wanna get more of these glass kings but i dunnooooo

[strange oxide]

also i think the cards are lying to me

grim promised me 18 enhanced aces, but i only got 5

[junior river]

do i get invis joker and get the chance of another 16x or another 2x retrigger, or do i keep dna for the glass kings?

[clear hare]

Something I want to fix post-0.3
But for now, it’s a misprint 💀

[weak burrow]

misprint in misprint

sounds about right

[strange oxide]

damn

i wasn't expecting a flush 6

no actually that's very much expected

[lime inlet]

immolate misprint is a scam 99% of the time

thank god i have save states in case i get softlocked

[weak burrow]

alright i think its time to try some actual runs on cryptid

[lime inlet]

wait have u been doing least joker inf this whole time

[weak burrow]

yeah but i dont think i have any way to improve it

[lime inlet]

what's the record rn

[strange oxide]

wtf is this.. i tried to return to main menu

[weak burrow]

i managed in 12 and almost got 11

oh btw since when is the quit button working?

i just realized it now

[strange oxide]

since you updated?

[weak burrow]

yeah but in which update lmao

[strange oxide]

i think i changed it like 4 days ago

[weak burrow]

oh nice

[strange oxide]

0526a iirc

[weak burrow]

very nice

now we need the exit button mod that was for 0.9.8

its basically the same thing but in the escape menu

[strange oxide]

i mean i should add a hotkey that auto-returns to menu and reloads mods

[weak burrow]

this is funny

pick 4 of 4

ngl this deck is just goofy as hell

i got a negative joker with +12 slots

10 card discards is also nice

cryptid random values doesnt work but i assume people have said this before

what is this image lmao

2 editioned legendaries and a poly invis and an editioned pack

oh right the edition voucher i forgot about that

[summer cargo]

is it out-of-scope to request that cryptid changes the tag rendering to compress them a lot more when you have too many to fit on the screen

since pickle exists

[clear hare]

I can see if that is easy

[brave ibex]

A lot of vanilla things are hardcoded tbf

[weak burrow]

also its annoying when hermit in antimatter deck doesnt show the true value in can double your money by

aka limit of 40 and then i get 100

i know values are randomized in this deck but they should be linked

like the internal value and the external value

[summer cargo]

scuffed edit but i think you can crush it down to like, this and it's still fine

since the icons are pretty distinct from each other and you can still hover over them to see what they area

[oak herald]

aw sweet

a pickle joker that gives 23 tags 😭

[clear hare]

known, will try to fix this soon

[weak burrow]

aight

[clear hare]

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/releases/tag/v0.3.1
surely epic joker crash is fixed now

[weak burrow]

also i love death on antimatter

just being able to convert my entire hand

busted as hell

i live for the busted power fantasy

this deck is basically that lmao

the fact i can just skip a gateway

xd

[clear hare]

this value might be the magic number for tag UI fixes (will code this later, just scouting it out lol)

[clear hare]

who needs gateway when I can just buy it in the shop for $20

[weak burrow]

real

does universum work with canvas? idk how that interaction works

[clear hare]

No

Universum is basically hardcoded to be X2

[weak burrow]

aight to the right of canvas it goes

[clear hare]

I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work with misprint either since it checks the global definition

[weak burrow]

i even put yorick there since the mult it gives is so low

its more worth it for another activation

[waxen oxide]

What does the blank deck actually do? or is it truly nothing lmao

[weak burrow]

ngl idek myself

[oak herald]

it actually does nothing

[clear hare]

||Does nothing||

[waxen oxide]

Okay, fair lmao

[weak burrow]

also i just got speculo in shop so thats gonna be fun

goodbye poly invis joker

[clear hare]

In the future it’ll be used to unlock Antimatter Deck

[weak burrow]

speculo should work right?

[waxen oxide]

does this include cards added to the deck now?

[weak burrow]

since its blueprint compatible

[clear hare]

Yes

Any card created will be forced red seal

[weak burrow]

and exponentia

[empty fern]

worlds strongest cavendish

[weak burrow]

also at this rate it wont be hard to reach inf

just need to get a rpg card

[clear hare]

Your cards are useless in Antimatter Deck meta

Just use them for econ and go for the best jokers

[oak herald]

antimatter deck goes crazy

[weak burrow]

https://i.imgur.com/Z38kuGm.png

[weak burrow]

i mean i have crazy cards already and rerolls are free lmao since reroll vouchers

these are the jokers so far

iterum exponentia canvas is already here

idk what way i should order them but rn im just going through the shop

hoping another negative joker shows up

and i just found double scale so thats another joker to the mix xd

like this is the first run im doing and im already basically done with inf setup

[umbral dagger]

I immediately forgot this pot of jokes started at -9.3 so the game just says im not allowed to draw 70% of a card

[weak burrow]

idk why this is hard for yall

[summer cargo]

...TIL invisible joker works with canvas

[summer cargo]

boutta pull out the half joker

[clear hare]

at least you didn't instantly lose lmao

[weak burrow]

now i got 29 slots

randomized negative joker is stonks

[umbral dagger]

yeah it let me sell the pot and it was fine, was just funny and I almost thought for a second the game broke

guess it only insta loses at physically 0 or below hand size, sad I can't rip a card in half to play it 😔 let me drag half joker down there

now it really wants me to lose

[empty fern]

dude something happened in this update that made the randomiser SO much better

[clear hare]

The range was smaller than it should have been

About X0.37-X2.7 when it should’ve been X0.1-X10

So now the results are 2.3 times crazier

[weak burrow]

do i put brainstorm to the left or right of canvas? what would be more optimal

[clear hare]

It retriggers when left

So if you have one good joker…

[weak burrow]

i know how it works but in my case i wonder whats better

i have basically every good joker

[clear hare]

Probably still on right

[clear hare]

Average misprint run

Can’t wait to see Murphy play this

[weak burrow]

two randomized iterums an exponentia and a double scale

[tired cedar]

how does double scale stack?

[waxen oxide]

oh shit, only 17 cents my beloved

[weak burrow]

double scale doesnt stack

biggest ramen bowl ever

[dusty plover]

mine started at like 17x

[weak burrow]

also we need a joker optimizer mod or something i cant look at this joker mess i have

[jagged garden]

Played the recent Cryptid updates, love the new stuff, Number Blocks do be crazy econ, can't imagine it with Compound Interest

[empty fern]

uhm!

[strange oxide]

0523a spotted

literally a full week behind on steamodded

[empty fern]

dude what

[strange oxide]

your steamodded hasn't been updated in a week

[empty fern]

why does everything update ll the time what the flip

[strange oxide]

because this is the bleeding edge

[jagged garden]

Alpha gaming

[strange oxide]

1.0 is literally in development

[clear hare]

Wait that’s on me

Release folder uses the wrong version of Steamodded

I was pulling from my own fork lmao

[strange oxide]

lol

[empty fern]

just @ me whenever talisman cryptid or steamodded updated atp lmao

[strange oxide]

💀

[umbral dagger]

Yeah was gonna say I'd imagine 523a is what's bundled with cryptid

[jagged garden]

Just clone said mod/modloader repo like a sane person

[umbral dagger]

probably why a lot of people are on it

[clear hare]

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/releases/tag/v0.3.1

the correct version should be bundled now (0530h)

[strange oxide]

yeah that makes more sense, can't even blame anyone but math for that one lmao

[clear hare]

this one's on me

[strange oxide]

I'm literally your excuse, what's a fool?

[clear hare]

I'm fool an excuse, what's your literally?

[weak burrow]

the fact i got this naturally is funny lmao

also math when you say universum is hard coded for x2, does it not get randomized with antimatter?

[clear hare]

it doesn't I believe

only the description

[weak burrow]

oh

rip

[empty fern]

still crashes

[weak burrow]

also universum doesnt do anything when playing right? only when getting hand levels

[clear hare]

did you use hieroglyph by any chance?

[clear hare]

yeah, and it doesn't apply retroactively

[weak burrow]

wdym retroactively

[clear hare]

like your lvl 10 hand suddenly gets the X2^9 chips and mult

when you buy universum

[empty fern]

petroglyph yea

[teal plover]

this appeared on my misprint deck run

[strange oxide]

fun

[dusty plover]

you gotta decide whether its worth it to take the 0.5x mult

and wait till it pays off

[clear hare]

I think the issue may be tied to that on DoE

[weak burrow]

cube is a funny joker

[strange oxide]

can just put it leftmost and not rely on hand levels too much

[weak burrow]

do i get money if i buy it?

[clear hare]

why is one of them not eternal

[weak burrow]

idk

[teal plover]

you wanna hear something funny?

[weak burrow]

maybe antimatter

[clear hare]

ye

[empty fern]

damn
gotta reset my run then huh

[weak burrow]

stonks

[brave ibex]

Maybe have it give itself eternal when bought

[tired cedar]

cube!

[teal plover]

a jolly joker appeared on a reroll

[dusty plover]

you bught the m right

[brave ibex]

m

[tired cedar]

is it like an actively bad effect or just lol

[teal plover]

yes, i bought the m, and one reroll was enough to make it worth it

[dusty plover]

w

[clear hare]

the bad part is that it's eternal

the effect is just stupidly weak (+6 chips)

so it's basically $25 for -1 Joker slot and the chance to get Big Cube

[tired cedar]

what's big cube

[clear hare]

X6 Chips

[weak burrow]

x6 chips

[tired cedar]

thanks i hate it

[brave ibex]

I wonder if a +25$ with no drawback could work as like an epic

[weak burrow]

istg this setup is much stronger than my 12 joker setup at this its just overkill

[teal plover]

tesseract for ^6 chips?

[weak burrow]

but gotta make sure to get the round 4 inf

[clear hare]

oh I think I know why actually

[tired cedar]

theres only 1 exponential joker rn right

[brave ibex]

Yeah

More to come 👀

[clear hare]

not going to push a balance patch just for that but this should fix it

[weak burrow]

yall want eco? we got eco

[dusty plover]

i really wish i wasnt impoverished...

i only have 10 bucks

[clear hare]

It was only running the eternal check if you spawn a Joker, and DoE can create Jokers when there are other items

[tired cedar]

can cube stack eternal and perishable?

[clear hare]

only on the appropriate stake

[tired cedar]

there's a stake that does that? lol

[clear hare]

the eternal is applied before sticker checks so if it hits perishable it won't apply

I wonder what debuffed cube looks like

[tired cedar]

tragic

are the new joker rarities accessible to other mods?

[dusty plover]

thanks

[weak burrow]

i have the option to abuse speculo also i just ran out of money and i remembered that

[tired cedar]

looks like a steal

imagine that with hanging chad but 6 retriggers

[weak burrow]

yknow what i dont need speculo ima sell him

[clear hare]

Yes, although other new rarities may override the code that picks which rarity to generate

And if you want to write a mod that uses Cryptid’s rarities it’ll also work fine

(We’d have to tweak the logic for adding them to the joker pool though)

[dusty plover]

biggest arcana pack ive seen so far

[weak burrow]

math idk if its a bug but i sold speculo before entering the next blind but its still retriggering

[tired cedar]

yeah thats what i mean
i was thinking it might be fun to try learning steammodded 1.0 with a silly set of jokers

[weak burrow]

ok nvm i had another one

[clear hare]

lmao

[weak burrow]

my bad its the 30 jokers making me blind

[brave ibex]

Pretty similar to the irl prices 🗿

[clear hare]

If you’re down I can make a function to add Jokers to Cryptid’s rarity pools to make that easier

[tired cedar]

i would love that ty

[weak burrow]

yall think this will get inf? i think it might xd

[brave ibex]

Maybe add that to the mod compat pin with the canvas/boredom too

[dusty plover]

what misprint pickle does to a mf

[clear hare]

yeah and also double scale

[tired cedar]

does canvas not just work the same way bp does?

(and boredom too for that matter)

[brave ibex]

They won’t trigger each other

Or other joker retriggers

[tired cedar]

you mean like a compatibility layer specifically for joker retrigger then?

[brave ibex]

Yeah

[weak burrow]

do i dare try this with animations on?

[brave ibex]

It was too op and also caused infinites so

[tired cedar]

is that why i got an infinity last night lol

it was like 193 jokers with multiple canvases and exponetias with a dna that put like 100 steel kings in hand

and i had a few bps and bss

[brave ibex]

Cracked

[weak burrow]

who would have imagined

round 5 inf done on random seed

[tired cedar]

thats actually why i asked if double acale stacked bc my exponentias were at like ^200000

[weak burrow]

oh you wanna see exponentia?

[tired cedar]

can it get even bigger lol

[weak burrow]

this is exponentia

[tired cedar]

why does it gain so much

[weak burrow]

canvas and blueprint

[tired cedar]

i was using equilibrium deck

[weak burrow]

and iterum also helps

[tired cedar]

do i not understand iterum

[weak burrow]

iterum is idol + seltzer

[tired cedar]

it seemed "weak" compared to the other exotics

[weak burrow]

but only the good sides of both

[weak burrow]

it was the exotic that launched the idea of this mod so yeah

it got power crept

[tired cedar]

no i mean
why does your exponentia gain like 38438^ in one play

i thought it onoy gained .01^ per xmult trigger

[weak burrow]

because canvas and blueprint as i said

[brave ibex]

Double scale

[tired cedar]

just one double scale?

[brave ibex]

Yeah it doesn’t stack

Like smeared

[tired cedar]

huh i just assumed to get a number like that you'd need multiple

i didnt really check rhe other night

[weak burrow]

i aint too sure tbh since i dont fully understand how the joker works

[tired cedar]

i had double scale so i assume i had some relatively large number too

[weak burrow]

oh wait

the 0.01 keeps growing

[tired cedar]

(though idt it was that large)

[weak burrow]

so after 0.01 it becomes 0.02 i think

as an example

[lime inlet]

yea it becomes quadratic

[tired cedar]

yeah wpuldnt you still need like
hundreds of thousands of triggers

[weak burrow]

thats what canvas and blueprint is doing

[lime inlet]

i think canvas also retriggers the gain

[weak burrow]

basically thousands of re triggers

iterum gets 3 or 4 per card

i have a chad with 15

[lime inlet]

quadratic gift card is super busted

[weak burrow]

all are blueprint compatible

[umbral dagger]

yeah canvas would also retrigger exponentia and its growth itself so it can stack up pretty fast with double scale tbh

[weak burrow]

and i have brainstorms on exponentia

so basically really easy inf

[tired cedar]

oh wait i just figured it out
i had a baron being retriggered by canvas

[weak burrow]

btw do i have the fastest inf on a random seed?

[lime inlet]

what round?

[tired cedar]

does canvas trigger a canvas?

[lime inlet]

no

[weak burrow]

5

[lime inlet]

canvas retrigger other retriggers

[tired cedar]

tragic

[normal mica]

hi sorry for popping in with a random question 🫠 is this more of an overhaul mod or does it integrate with the rest of the game/some other mods?? im still on 0.9.8 bc most of the other mods i have arent ported to 1.0.0 yet but as soon as i get 1.0.0 i will be RUNNING to download this lmao

[lime inlet]

wait i think that's my random seed record too lmao

[weak burrow]

i think this proves it was a random seed right?

[tired cedar]

canvas retriggering canvas when imo

[lime inlet]

wait

[waxen oxide]

can we get a little like green dot on the currently scoring card as part of talisman? <3

[tired cedar]

its already the most busted card why not improve it

[lime inlet]

#1219749193204371456 message
lmao

i forgot that

[weak burrow]

rip

i mean considering i didnt try to abuse speculo i would say this is not that bad

speculo would make this so much easier

[tired cedar]

with antimatter naninf round 2 should be possible right

[lime inlet]

it's the same seed where i got round 2 Inf seeded

[lime inlet]

yea i did it recently

[weak burrow]

all you need is 1 shop with enough canvases

[lime inlet]

i got it through abusing tarots

and getting 2k$

[weak burrow]

that was effort

[tired cedar]

and antimatter right

[weak burrow]

i just did rerolls

[lime inlet]

same

[weak burrow]

speculo gives negatives so you dont need antimatter

oh wait the deck

yeah

i thought about the voucher for a second

[tired cedar]

cant you not get enough jokers fast enough w just speculo?

[lime inlet]

speculo + canvas + double scale exponentia is what i did

the hardest part is getting all of those jokers

[weak burrow]

yeah antimatter just gives you any joker you want

[lime inlet]

you'd need to maximize money into the shop then get lucky with a bunch of hermits and temperances

[tired cedar]

soul is also a money gen card right

[lime inlet]

having thousands of dollars in shop 1 was pretty funny

[weak burrow]

i just got hermits to keep getting me money

[clear hare]

I would define it more as an overhaul mod
It has integrated fine with the other 1.0 mods so far though

[weak burrow]

and reroll vouchers made rerolling basically free

[brave ibex]

Talisman overhauls a lot of how numbers are handled so it’s going to be incompatible with a LOT of mods, otherwise it’s a content mod

[lime inlet]

i got lucky cause 99% of my tarot packs had every single tarot card in the game

[weak burrow]

i had showman so i didnt have that luck

[lime inlet]

so i could temperance, hermit, fool, then emperor to get them all back

[weak burrow]

showman is still in that image i think

yeah behind the negative jokers

i love that the reroll vouchers stack

[jagged garden]

Uhm, did I win?

[lime inlet]

maybe

idk

[weak burrow]

like -15 dollars rerolls is just funny

like with speculo a round 2 inf shouldnt be too hard

[tired cedar]

i wonder how hard round 2 inf on equilibrium deck js

[normal mica]

thank you!! cant wait to try it out bc the screenshots y'all send in here are giving me fomo tbh

[clear hare]

looks like the max number of tags you can fit on screen is 13

will take note

[dusty plover]

oh god what is math cookin

[weak burrow]

100 tags on screen incoming

[lime inlet]

could you maybe try to "compress" certain items like if 100 investment tags were used it'd just say smth like (100x) Investment Tag

[tired cedar]

artisan cola: each round, get 1 of every tag

[brave ibex]

You can try it out right now, just keep 0.9.8 mods in a separate folder 👀

[lime inlet]

someone make pepsi joker

[brave ibex]

Diet cola 2

Jejsi

[clear hare]

long-term, yes

[oak herald]

iirc it used to do this

[clear hare]

ok I think I did this incorrectly

[oak herald]

the staircase

[umbral dagger]

you need to climb to the top of the tag staircase to use the ones that are off screen

[clear hare]

huh

hey, this actually isn't too bad

[dusty plover]

damn

looks sick

[clear hare]

ok I actually figured it out