Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]

[rigid obsidian]

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fun fact: those square letters are actually pieces of flag emojis, thats why putting two of them next to each other will usually create a flag

its also why theyre called "region_indicator_m"

[brave ibex]

I have an idea for a joker but the sprite I have planned is just a steel king of hearts with a red seal and I can't find the sprites anywhere 😩

[lime inlet]

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[clear hare]

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/releases/tag/v0.2.1
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@cold sandal when you update the pinned message, this will always redirect to the latest release:
https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/releases/latest

[brave ibex]

now we work on adding more jokers 🍉

[brave ibex]

ok found red seal for this but if anyone has a clear image of king of hearts and steel plz help

[cold sandal]

👍

[clear hare]

tomorrow

[dusty plover]

@clear hare what version of the steamodded code did you use to test the newest cryptid release? as when i download the lastest code from the github i get this block of text

[weak burrow]

Wait Cryptid requiring talisman atleast for now is imo not that smart

Considering talisman is much more wip

I mean idk much but wasn't there a bug with level 2 hands?

[clear hare]

upgrade lovely

latest commit of steamodded

[dusty plover]

aight

i'll see if that works

[clear hare]

I think it's fixed, wasn't able to reproduce

and that was the only bug iirc

[weak burrow]

Oh ngl I thought there were more

Now we need stable steamodded release so I can start using more mods with talisman

[dusty plover]

no more big ass block of text, but now i get this error

[cold sandal]

@clear hare I added Talisman to the pinned message considering it's now required

[clear hare]

nativefs is a depedency of Talisman

https://thunderstore.io/package/download/metherul/nativefs/1.0.1/

[cold sandal]

((Should I also add this to the pin))

[dusty plover]

ok this fixed it, thanks mate

[cold sandal]

We gonna need an entire guide on how to install Cryptid at some point

[dusty plover]

so true...

yeah the installation of cryptid is slowly becoming more complicated LOL

worth it though

[clear hare]

yep

nativefs requirement is kinda dumb though

for some reason loading the files for Talisman without that just started crashing on the newest Steamodded version

With some cryptic error

and nativefs just fixes it

[cold sandal]

The pin now contains 5 links

[weak burrow]

What's nativefs? Talisman worked for me until now

Another thing to download?

[clear hare]

it’s a dependency I added to Talisman

i can just add it to the folder so you only need to download it for the next update

and no other programs

[cold sandal]

We need a voting system for what to add next

Make decisions easier

Ima drop something here real quick

Ima take 0-2 items from every section and compile them into a sort of poll or something so people can vote

[clear hare]

use discord polls

[cold sandal]

Oh thats a thing

lmao

[clear hare]

put like 10 items on there, top 3 get added next or something

[lime inlet]

after all the suggestions there is going to be a massive sheet

[cold sandal]

I was entirely ready to create a list of 20 items

[clear hare]

you could also do a google form for something like that

If you want that many iptions

[cold sandal]

There we go

(You can vote for more than 1 thing btw)

[lime inlet]

we might need more people

[brave ibex]

Didn’t math want to focus on uncommon and commons though lol

[clear hare]

I can do both

[brave ibex]

Got a steel card sprite now but still need the king of hearts

[clear hare]

Those rarities are just good because they round out the pool so I’ll pull from there too

[brave ibex]

That makes sense

[clear hare]

there should to be a column on the spreadsheet for what I should implement soon

[dusty plover]

no double scale :(

[clear hare]

thay way I don’t lose track

[brave ibex]

Alr found one on wiki, gonna brb

[clear hare]

great minds think alike

(although this is deck art)

[brave ibex]

The polychrome effect kinda ruins what i’m going for
Once i’m done with this joker everything will make sense

[clear hare]

funny deck idea
NAN Deck
Start with a deck of 52 cards of the same rank and suit, -3 hand size

[brave ibex]

-4 handsize so no 5 card hands :trollface:

[clear hare]

The Manacle:

[brave ibex]

Erratic rng bug at home:

[clear hare]

that’s what inspired me (name included)

anyway I’m gonna head out since it’s 1am here

[brave ibex]

That’s late, cya

[cold sandal]

For now I'm sticking to stuff with art, in future polls though i'll probably include 3 suggestions that don't have any art

[dusty plover]

mmm ok

dont blame ya

[gray elm]

Which is better?

My transient joker sticker suggestion

[lime inlet]

i have 0 idea what transient means so first one

[gray elm]

antonym of eternal

[brave ibex]

i think 2

the background in the first one makes it hard to see the dice

[mental tiger]

What about dark green stripes in the same pattern

[gray elm]

Fixed the shading but i don't know what color the dice should be

[gray elm]

All the transient sticker

And the chained sticker

[serene pawn]

ourple dice would be nice

[gray elm]

ourple

[serene pawn]

hell yeaa

[brave ibex]

Joker: Endless meta

1 in 3 chance to create a King of hearts with steel card enhancement and a red seal when a card is destroyed (Bp compatible also )

(this took several hours 😩 )

gonna go to sleep

[rigid obsidian]

sorry i couldve given you the assets i was just a little busy with some personal stuff

probably going to make some of my tags next

[lime inlet]

this would go so hard with my spectral idea

[brave ibex]

Bruh I spotted an error in the sprite but im too lazy to get out of my bed and fix it

Hopefully it doesn’t get added until I wake up 🗿

[rigid obsidian]

ill fix it

[native lotus]

M

[grim tiger]

m

[thin sigil]

M

[oak herald]

m

[cloud granite]

m

[hot marsh]

m

[fickle shadow]

m

[strange oxide]

M

[oak herald]

this happens when i click play (current version)

is it because my save has a naneinf score?

update: i do think thats the case

oh.

[cloud granite]

Do you mean when you launch the game? If so, it's probably because you got 1.0.0 alpha steamodded, which doesn't yet support this mod

[oak herald]

different issue, i found out why that one happens (highest score on that savefile in naneinf which breaks stuff

[cloud granite]

Oh, wait, I thought it's a different mod thread, sorry

[strange oxide]

that's where you're wrong haha

[empty fern]

having trouble getting mod to work, is there any quick guide on which files n stuff i should be adding/removing?

(opening the game works fine but nothing is added)

[cloud granite]

Send your mods folder please

[clear hare]

was that save made before Talisman? That could be why this is happening

[oak herald]

yeah

[lime inlet]

imagine a Dummy joker that is just invulnerable to literally everything

[empty fern]

a ss of everything in my mods folder, just stuff needed for cryptid (talisman and nativefs)

delleted the read mes from the folder after taking this

[cloud granite]

Maybe you inserted the mod not the right way? It looks like you put the cryptid mod in the folder, not the cryptid folder

[lime inlet]

This Joker is invulnerable to being destroyed, disabled, and can never have stickers on it
should this joker be common(i just put it as common)

[cloud granite]

Why would you get it?

[lime inlet]

idk

for the memes

it's a dummy joker

[cloud granite]

Exotic

[lime inlet]

:)

what's latin for dummy again?

goddam that's a cool ass name

[cloud granite]

idk maybe like dhummieus

[lime inlet]

phantasma

actually ima change the effect a bit

[cloud granite]

Give it +1 joker slot and make common

[lime inlet]

Whenever a card is supposed to be destroyed or disabled, transfer it to this Joker
might wanna derank it a bit

oh yea forgot to put the not die aspect

[cloud granite]

So if you have it, jokers turn into it instead of being destroyed?

[lime inlet]

ill just say it prevents any card from being disabled/destroyed

cause why not

[clear hare]

extract Talisman and Cryptid to their own folders

instead of just plonking them in the Mods directory

[cloud granite]

So make everything sellable eternals?

[lime inlet]

practically

seltzer is infinite now yay

;mao

never expected phantasma of all things to be latin for dummy

then again i used google translate

[empty fern]

unplonked them from the mod folder and made their own folders
plonked nativefs

led to this (im SORRY if im bein stupiddd)

[lime inlet]

what if i put "Erases all stickers when sold(Overrides sticker effects)"

nah ill put that for another joker

[lime inlet]

maybe call it Adhesive Remover?

[clear hare]

you need https://thunderstore.io/package/download/metherul/nativefs/1.0.1/

[lime inlet]

what rarity should Adhesive Remover be

[clear hare]

I'm going to embed it in the next Talisman patch though so you can also just hang on a few minutes

[lime inlet]

was thinking rare/epic

[empty fern]

maybe to make the dummy a bit cooler you could make it
"whenever a joker is debuffed or destroyed, turn into that joker
wheneve the joker is un-debuffed(is that the word?), turns back into dummy."

but then it isnt rlly a dummy

molding clay?

[lime inlet]

Molded Joker

[grim tiger]

i think situational sell effects should be uncommon

[lime inlet]

k

so uncommon got it

[grim tiger]

yeah

is there an exotic anti-sticker joker yet?

[lime inlet]

anti-sticker?

[grim tiger]

like the chicot to your adhesive-remover's luchador

[lime inlet]

ah

Disables all stickers

wait that'd make the uncommon one better

[grim tiger]

would it?

[lime inlet]

i mean all stickers would be permanently gone

even if this joker isn't around anymore

well unless it gained more stickers

[grim tiger]

wait for adhesive remover you meant all on your current jokers right?

[lime inlet]

Imagine it'd be for every card

with stickers

but yes only current jokers

[grim tiger]

alright just making sure i didn't misunderstand

[clear hare]

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Talisman/releases/tag/v1.0.6
now you won't need to download nativefs separately

[brave ibex]

This should fix everything wrong auegh

also .pixil file so no one has to go through this pain again

[weak burrow]

What in the jeet

.pixil

[brave ibex]

King of hearts, red seal, and steel png, all in seprate layers

[empty fern]

all i have in the mod folder (new talisman) and it crashes
it might be the version of steamodded or lovely i have but idk

[clear hare]

make sure you're using latest steamodded

[oak herald]

ok

one blind before violet vessal

and i have a chance for an exotic joker

do i take?

[empty fern]

got the latest version
no idea whats happening

[oak herald]

im doing it

#yolo

oh.

[grim tiger]

lmfao

[clear hare]

🪲

[grim tiger]

🪲

beetle joker when?

the mult or chips will just be set wrong purposefully to say error

+$ERROR for every ERROR used at the end of round

[oak herald]

hope this gets fixed so we can experience the power of exotic jokers

[clear hare]

why does it work on my end

xd

[oak herald]

i have no idea code just does that

will it help if i post my savefile here

[clear hare]

this is my exact mods folder

(you can remove DebugPlus if you don't want debug mode)

[oak herald]

(noted)

weird, when i use your mod folder it works perfectly

if your wondering, the card i got was univertism (x2 chips and mult when planet card is used), and it also crashed the game

[cold sandal]

nativefs is now no longer in the pinned message

[lime inlet]

what if there were vouchers that gave a Free slot(a slot left of the Joker slots that any item can be in)

ok probably not left of the Joker slots

[cold sandal]

I'd be surprized if nobody said anything about light mode but here are the poll results

And you can also see my votes lmao

[lime inlet]

lamo

[lime inlet]

we should probably start naming the unnamed stuf

[clear hare]

alr, going to implement the top 5 of these

and to put all these effects here:
White Hole - Set all hand levels to 1. Level up your most played poker hand by 3 for each level lost. (Spawns like Black Hole)
Speculo - Create a Negative copy of a random Joker at end of shop
Redeo - When sold, -1 ante for every $10 spent (permanently increase requirements by $10 after each use)
The WHIP - X1 Mult, permanently gains X1 Mult if played hand contains a 2 and 7 of different suits
Conveyor Deck - Jokers may not be moved. At start of round, duplicate leftmost joker and destroy rightmost joker. 0.3X blind requirements

actually the effect of conveyor deck seems kinda weird

[lime inlet]

i forgot speculo's existance and holy that is good

[clear hare]

shouldn't it destroy the rightmost joker and duplicate it in the leftmost position

[cold sandal]

It's supposed to be weird

Dupe the leftmost joker to the leftmost position

When a joker is first obtained it goes to the leftmost position

Ima use debug to try and do a run with it in a way

I shouldn't have done this

[clear hare]

ah

if you can easily get 5 of a joker I feel like we don't need the 0.3X reqs

but that can come with playtesting

[lime inlet]

target sticker
sorta self explanatory

[clear hare]

crazy idea: it would be cool for Steamodded to have more API for things that would aid the more complex effects

ex. retriggering jokers

or for things that happen on destroy events (that's why I didn't add that to m)

[lime inlet]

i wanna do complicated effects lol

just thought of a joker idea

[clear hare]

yeah, but when I implement them I might add some of the backbone for them to Steamodded lmao

[lime inlet]

When a Joker is obtained, debuff it for 5 rounds, then make it Negative

[clear hare]

that's a fun one

[lime inlet]

congrats you now have infinite joker slots basically

it just might take a while

[cold sandal]

I was just messing around and this happened

Natural m spawn

[clear hare]

m

[cold sandal]

m

[lime inlet]

the m is real

oh yea i should put the joker idea in suggestion box

[cold sandal]

ok

[lime inlet]

lmao

also what rarity should the joker be

[grim tiger]

positive edition 👀

[cold sandal]

bruh

[lime inlet]

it overrides edition ig

[grim tiger]

i meant that joker idea sounds more like an edition or deck kind of idea to me

[lime inlet]

ah

[cold sandal]

I think something is wrong with my Royal Flush

[grim tiger]

it'd maybe just be as common as foil so its a way easier to get worse negative

[lime inlet]

with phantasma you basically just get free jokers forever

[cold sandal]

You've gotta be kidding me that was just a rare tag (Im still on an older version lmao)

[lime inlet]

there's about 140 suggestions rn

[brave ibex]

Insane highroll

[cold sandal]

Do you guys like my naneinf build

lmao

It'll naneinf still

lmao

[brave ibex]

Anything with exponentia is a naninf

[oak herald]

gg ez

[cloud granite]

Does White Hole just triple the hand level if only one hand was upgraded and played (let's say that for the whole run I was only playing straights and only upgraded them). Also, how does this interact with Universum?

[brave ibex]

Tbh I still can’t shake the feeling that something is just a little bit off with the current neg joker sprite

[brave ibex]

Maybe I’m going insane lmao, if only I knew the exact values used

[cold sandal]

hehe

[clear hare]

it wouldn’t change it at all

[lime inlet]

should we implement joker copy limits or nah

jk i already know it's nah

ngl i really wanna see double scale added

it'd be so cool

[cloud granite]

And what about White Hole + Universum?

[clear hare]

each level would give you X2 mult and chips

[lime inlet]

Universum + Duped White Hole + Perkeo

[lime inlet]

how would bootstrap scale quadratically

i wanna know

[cloud granite]

What do you mean?

[lime inlet]

double scale

[clear hare]

i would just take the integral of the current function

[cloud granite]

+4 mult for every $5 you have?

[clear hare]

so integral of (2/5)x is x^2/5

[lime inlet]

dang

[clear hare]

+(x/5) Mult for every $5 you have

actually double scale will be a pain to code for things like bootstrap/bull

[cloud granite]

X is money in that case, right?

[cold sandal]

a

trying to get the new patch

[eternal juniper]

Yo how do i get steammodded 1.0

[clear hare]

update Steamodded

[clear hare]

download latest source code

on the Steamodded repo

[eternal juniper]

Oh dang

It was that easy

[clear hare]

I will probably save double scale for last since it'll be the hardest to implement

but right now the bolded entries on the spreadsheet are what I plan to add in the next demo, with more to come...

[grim tiger]

m

[cold sandal]

I downloaded Steamodded again and put it into the mod folder (It's giving the same crash (I used your mod folder for the first screenshot and just updated Steamodded in it (I don't even know if this message was supposed to be to me)))

[brave ibex]

No commons 😭

[cold sandal]

Art Priority List:

1. Bolded items that don't have art, as these are what are planned to be next added
2. Common & Uncommon Jokers, if I'm not mistaken, Math said they wanted to add some of these next
3. Vouchers, we don't have much voucher art yet
4. Anything that isn't listed in this list due to being too small of a section { Booster Packs, Enhancements, etc. }
5. Exotic Jokers, due to being more complex and just being cool
6. Keys
7. Legacy Bosses { See #1219749193204371456 message }
8. Other Bosses { Note: The formatting for blinds is wacky, see #1219749193204371456 message }
9. Rare & Epic Jokers, most of these already have art
10. Decks, There are a lot of decks already with art and { For now at least } we probably don't need more
    Ofc, this list doesn't have to be followed, it's just in order of what in my opinion is the most to least immediately required art, and there are other factors that come in to play as well { Formatting, mainly }

[clear hare]

I did say this (for 2.)

[cold sandal]

Alr just edited it

[clear hare]

I wonder if there's a script that takes a static image of a blind and adds that animatiom

can probably ask in modding-chat but would make things much easier for the artists

[cold sandal]

yea

[clear hare]

first new item of the day
(now, time to add its effect)

[cold sandal]

Put it next to Black Hole in the consumable slots for a free cool screenshot

[clear hare]

let me send it in modding chat without any context

[cold sandal]

:)

[lime inlet]

me when i perkeo dupe white hole + universum

if only this worked for constellation lmao

[cold sandal]

You'd need Celestial Storage (Crystal Ball T3) to do that

[lime inlet]

or Deck of Equilibrium

since that way you can just buy it

[clear hare]

how are you going to get it?

[lime inlet]

Deck of Equilibrium

white hole would be purchasable in shop

[clear hare]

👍

[lime inlet]

we need a cursed screenshot of soul, black hole, and white hole all in the shop with DoE

[cold sandal]

And Gateway

[lime inlet]

now that i think of it, DoE sounds pretty decently easy to implement

you just equalize the odds of every single card and give the voucher right?

[clear hare]

you could probably just pull from P_CENTERS without caring if it's valid

(the list of every item in the gaem)

[lime inlet]

the moment DoE is in game we're gonna get seeds that have gateway and perkeo ante 1 shop

[cold sandal]

I don't think that'd work unless you have lock or something

[lime inlet]

lock?

[cold sandal]

Gateway would destroy the other exotics you make

And perkeo

[lime inlet]

+Spiritual cleanse then

spirit cleanse + gateway + perkeo

[cold sandal]

Cheater seed

[lime inlet]

spirit cleanse sounds like such a cheat idea wise

"Destroy all other Jokers? nah"

[clear hare]

hmm

[lime inlet]

lmfao

Infiniplanet

[clear hare]

free naneinf build

[dusty plover]

0xinfinity

wow

[lime inlet]

just saw that 12.5 chip pair

[cold sandal]

For Spiritual Cleanse i just kinda

Familiar: Destroy up to 1 selected card in hand. Add 3 Enhanced Face Cards to your deck.
Incantation: Destroy up to 1 selected card in hand. Add 4 Enhanced Number Cards to your deck.
Aura: Select 3 cards, add foil to the leftmost selected card, holographic to the middlemost selected card, and polychrome to the rightmost selected card.
Wraith: Create a random Rare Joker.
Sigil: Convert every card in hand to the same suit as 1 selected card.
Ouija: Convert every card in hand to the same rank as 1 selected card.
Ectoplasm: Adds negative to a selected Joker.
Immolate: Destroy up to 5 selected cards in hand. Gain 20$.
Ankh: Create a copy of a selected Joker.
Hex: Adds polychrome to a selected Joker.
White Hole: Upgrade most played poker hand by 3 levels for each level on hands.
Gateway: Create a random Exotic Joker.```

[lime inlet]

goddam

pixel jumpscare

[cold sandal]

Oops they're seperated

[oak herald]

gonna try to beat a deck on ascendant stake

[cold sandal]

There we go I fixed it

All other spectrals in game have no downsides

[clear hare]

ascendant platinum stake

[cold sandal]

The seals, soul, and Black Hole

[oak herald]

boredom

can't afford it

but i got a credit card so

[clear hare]

this error is so annoying

it happens randomly when upgrading a planet and idk why

wait nevermind

it's not random

[oak herald]

we're screwed

😭

[clear hare]

fixed it

[cold sandal]

New spectral idea

Atlas:
Skipping a blind now gives 2 tags. 1/2 chance to destroy all modded Jokers and Consumables and crash the game instead.

[cold sandal]

Wacky

[clear hare]

attempt to index "atlas" (a nil value)

[clear hare]

it wouldn't do that, it would corrupt your Steamodded install to rename SMODS.Atlas to SMODS.Sprite

[lime inlet]

using 2 white holes combined with universum is catastrophic

[oak herald]

ee

[lime inlet]

for some reason my brain can't adjust to the ee system

[clear hare]

with universum white hole is like ^6 score

[lime inlet]

10^(1.4*10)^9?

[oak herald]

10^(10^9)

[clear hare]

10^(1.4*10^9)

[lime inlet]

right

[clear hare]

or e1,400,000,000

[lime inlet]

nice

[clear hare]

perkeo white hole is a naneinf build for sure

until I add support for handling tetration and higher-order operations

[lime inlet]

i have idea

what if the mimic was repurposed into post infinity

[cold sandal]

I can't escape it's too powerful

[oak herald]

are you ready for numbers like 8.5F20?

[lime inlet]

we might need to use arrow notation for higher numbers

Set base increases by 1X every ante onward

is this a good PI debuff(ante 60+)

[oak herald]

i mean at ante 60+, you have to start thinking in OoMs (order of magitudes

by then every ante is like +20, 25, 30 OoMs so a slight base difference won't do much

[cold sandal]

@clear hare Can you help me with this?
I've tried reinstalling everything but no matter what I try to do it always just gives this exact same error and gets stuck in this exact same spot

[lime inlet]

The Thief
Every other score increaser gets applied to blind requirement

lel again

Ante 40+: +2 Blinds per ante
Ante 40+: Hands and Discards refresh after each ante
Ante 45+: Money can only be gained every other ante
Ante 45+: Can only visit shop once per ante
Ante 50+: Modified cards cannot be added to deck anymore
Ante 50+: After every round, add 5 random base cards to deck
Ante 60+: All Blinds onward will have The Mimic's effect applied (The Mimic is removed from pool)
Ante 60+: All Blinds will be Boss/Final Boss Blinds
Ante 100+: All Blinds onward will have The Thief's effect applied (The Thief is removed from pool)
Ante 100+: Ante increases every round
Ante 100+: Shops are permanently disabled```

[clear hare]

a) send a screenshot of your mods folder
b) make sure you have the latest version of Steamodded in the Mods/Steamodded folder

the error is triggering before Steamodded loads for some reason

[clear hare]

if you rename the Mods folder (basically, removing all the mods) does it open successfully?

[cold sandal]

Yea, it's a Steamodded version issue I think, I looked through some of the files and found manifest.json with

I thought i had downloaded the alpha

It might've just not been updated thoguh

[clear hare]

download the code from github, not the release

[cold sandal]

I have been, and I just got it working

I used the Steamodded folder from when I originally downloaded your mod folder and the new download of everything I had

Also canvas doesnt work

[oak herald]

personally i wouldn't have hands and discards refresh after each ante, and i wouldn't permaently disable shops tbh

having them limited to once per ante though is intresting

[cold sandal]

Actually now that I'm messing around with it it seems to only retrigger the leftmost joker

[clear hare]

did my patch screw it up somehow? lol

I'm going to do the Canvas/Boredom nerf a different way

watch me WHIP

going to change the scaling to X0.5 since it's not that hard to trigger with things like full house and low-scoring hand types

[brave ibex]

I feel like "this joker gains" should be at the front of the sentence , but that's just a nitpick

[clear hare]

good nitpick

I'll change it :)

[brave ibex]

Cursor (joker) - Come up with an effect

[lime inlet]

you can now select up to 6 cards

: )

[clear hare]

I hope deck of equilibrium is this easy

[clear hare]

there was a legendary in one of the earliest mods that did this

[lime inlet]

ik

wasn't it apart of jellymod

[clear hare]

i think so

praying this works first try

[brave ibex]

I was thinking something more simple xd

i'm not so sure about a 6 card hand

[clear hare]

permanently gains +10 chips for each card purchased

[brave ibex]

that works, but it would probably have to be rare minimum

[lime inlet]

Can discard as many cards as you want?

that'd be funny lmao

[brave ibex]

we do need those uncommons/commons implemented after all

[lime inlet]

just thought of quadratic yorick

[brave ibex]

you are thinking too small

think about quadratic rocket

💰

[lime inlet]

wouldn't cloud 9 count as a scaling joker

[brave ibex]

it doesn't scale

[lime inlet]

it scales with how many 9s you have

[brave ibex]

the joker itself doesn't scale, it just your deck

[lime inlet]

fair

actually it kinda does
the money from the joker changes based on the deck

[brave ibex]

but the deck is scaling not the joker really, I think in edge cases like that don't bother

too difficult to make it work

[lime inlet]

well does bull count

[brave ibex]

i wouldn't say soo

it only "kinda scales"

[lime inlet]

seriously we need a definition for scaling in this sense

[brave ibex]

anything with "this joker gains" makes sense

and then anything else can be handled by a case-by-case basis

[lime inlet]

then bootstrap doesn't count

wait that technically means caino counts too

lmaooooo

well kinda ish mayben't

[brave ibex]

i think this definition just leaves out blue joker, bootstraps, bull, and swashbuckler

[lime inlet]

quadratic htr will look hella weird in game

[brave ibex]

and modded jokers ig

[lime inlet]

wait

quadratic throwback

it doesn't really say "gain" tho so i don't fully know

does this mean that ramen loses mult quadratically?

[brave ibex]

it more because it's retroactive I think

that would probably cause some issues with coding, maybe leave that out too

[lime inlet]

damn popcorn also technically loses mult quadratically as well

[brave ibex]

yepp lol

[clear hare]

sacrificing my ramen, ice cream, and popcorn for a big wee joker

[lime inlet]

old wee + quadratic

:))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[clear hare]

let me see if the game breaks if I make everything a joker

what if the tags and vouchers are jokers

[lime inlet]

bug prediction
vampire breaks double scale

idk why but i feel it

[clear hare]

things like vampire and dropshot will be harder

because they can increase multiple times at once

actually now that I think about it

[brave ibex]

the mult is calculated all at once no?

I think so at least

[clear hare]

yeah but it can go up twice or 3 times the base

if it's removing multiple

so it's more complex

double scale is going to be annoying to implement regardless

[lime inlet]

goddamit ice cream is gonna go down so fast with double scale

does egg count in double scale
it does say gain

[brave ibex]

if it is too difficult we can always give it a different effect too

[clear hare]

ok I think I'm going to have to limit equilibrium deck to only jokers and consumables

[clear hare]

no it should be doable

just annoying

[lime inlet]

nooooooooooooooooooooo

rip

[clear hare]

I'll try adding things but like, there's no way we can have stakes appearing in the shop

[lime inlet]

i mean

it just says any card so i didn't really consider stakes to begin with

[clear hare]

well that matches your definition

all cards are jokers or consumables

[lime inlet]

forgot spectrals were consumables for a sec

ll

o

[brave ibex]

gonna add this effect to suggestion box

[clear hare]

it could just be lowered

to like +3

I think it fits cursor, I just pulled a number from thin air

[brave ibex]

that's up to you honestly 😉

25 and epic for epic chip joker 😳

[clear hare]

cursor gives me common vibes

[brave ibex]

yeah me too, nice and simple, but not too simple :p

it does have a gradient and all

maybe +4 to match square joker

[fickle shadow]

Put a click counter in its description

[clear hare]

wait I didn't know that Consumeables literally does include everything

so it spawned Zodiac Deck and crashed the game

[lime inlet]

lmaoo

[clear hare]

no I know why

it's not Zodiac Deck

that was just a variable in the debug for some reason

ok

it's working

you can get foil consumables because they spawn in place of jokers

and I think it's awesome

[lime inlet]

what's the odds of getting a naturally negative exotic then

[clear hare]

it'll go up when I add more

now that my code is working let me make it so literally anything can appear and see if the game crashes

WHAT THE HELL

wait consumeables is just consumeables

I'm trolling

[brave ibex]

reminds me a bit of jokerless

[clear hare]

ok now anything can spawn for real this time

will my game crash?

you can actually redeem it

[oak herald]

o

this deck sounds like true chaos

i love it

[rigid obsidian]

🔥

[brave ibex]

Here's another joker done - Pixilated joker

this one was pretty fun

maybe this can be an uncommon

[gray elm]

Virtue?

[brave ibex]

yeah, it a reference to another mod in development

i think it fits here

[brave ibex]

gonna put it's effect as +1 hand when blind is selected and put it in suggestion box as a common

[oak herald]

the hand is temporary and doesn't stack right

[brave ibex]

well I mean if you have multiple it stacks anyways

i'm pretty sure it would either active when blind is selected like burglar or go away when sold

[lime inlet]

=]\

[cold sandal]

Ok i tested the retrigger jokers jokers some more

They only retrigger the leftmost joker and they can only do it once right now

Canvas seems to be trying to retrigger more times with more jokers as after retriggering once it has a huge delay before actually scoring

hmm

[vestal seal]

that seems weird to include

also isnt it more blurred than pixelated?

[brave ibex]

why not

it's highly compressed

just couldn't fina a better word for that

[clear hare]

have I broken your brain yet?

[vestal seal]

help

[vestal seal]

just out of place

[clear hare]

alr it's finished, now we just need deck art

[lime inlet]

i am back on the laptop

(yes i couldn't play this mod this entire time)

[clear hare]

this is what happens if you redeem overstock plus when you already have it

[lime inlet]

not surprising

but definitely funny

also for some strange reason i can't find steammoded link at all

can u give?

[clear hare]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/archive/refs/heads/main.zip

[lime inlet]

thank

[clear hare]

very fair deck isn't busted

tbh legendary and exotic prices actually kinda balance it

I basically had to zero my money to buy Iterum

when it gets good it gets good though

yep

[brave ibex]

Maybe so, but I would never compress poor jimbo 😔

[clear hare]

now we just wait for exponentia to appear in the shop

[brave ibex]

Remove every joker but exponentia 🧠

[lime inlet]

how much do i need to download aside from steammoded + lovely for this mod?

[brave ibex]

I think You need talisman, but that should be it

[lime inlet]

k

sad

im gonna eat rq

[clear hare]

@lime inlet

you may like where this is going

[lime inlet]

yes

[summer cargo]

Wide Shop...

"how much money do i have? uh..."

[brave ibex]

Mondrian

[clear hare]

I'm too tired to finish the job but it's pretty clear this is a Talisman naneinf build on DoE
Retriggers with 4 Oops All 6s let us farm money while perkeo + universum + white hole can max out our flushes

[cold sandal]

The einfeinf is coming

[clear hare]

plus we have XMult retriggers for a possible pivot to exponentia+canvas

I get >2k a round with the new dice so it's just a reroll game now

[brave ibex]

reroll game? do crustulum next 👀

[clear hare]

also stacking reroll glut does this

nah I'm going to sleep now

[gray elm]

Does it give you money

[cold sandal]

Best thing is getting to ante -1 with petroglyph

[cold sandal]

no

[clear hare]

no

with this money you can reach -inf ante

because vouchers can appear in the shop, whether you claimed them or not

[brave ibex]

they can appear multiple timeslike this? interesting

[cold sandal]

Im waiting for Speculo to be added

Ill make art for the DoE when i get home

[clear hare]

ok what do you think exponentia will reach after one hand

[brave ibex]

nerf exponentia

[clear hare]

I have trib in here

looking to be about ^3.5

[brave ibex]

bring it to ^1, it is too good

[clear hare]

wait it already shows that it's ^3.22

ok

[brave ibex]

absolute unit

all in one hand too

[cold sandal]

Start expo at ^.5

[clear hare]

that was already ee43 because of boredom

[cold sandal]

What if you had one of the blueprints on trib

[clear hare]

I think we naneinf here

actually only got ee108 because canvas is buggy

[vestal seal]

lvl 1e46 flush with universum goes crazy

[clear hare]

anyway I'm going to stop there

[cold sandal]

Speculo here would go crazy

[waxen oxide]

I gotta sell the error joker to use its effect right?

[brave ibex]

Yeah

[rough violet]

universum + white hole would be nuts

[cold sandal]

Deck of Equilibrium

2x DoE

Theres math and hex code stuff in there that makes it wacky

Very specifically using this definiton for the art

Anyways can we get Speculo now :))))

[weak burrow]

did your game keep the 60 fps though? i notice with alot of jokers it just becomes real hard to run the game

[clear hare]

there were lag spikes at the start of calculating a hand

[weak burrow]

I imagine it'll be hard for the game lmao

[clear hare]

Hanging Gigachad (Rare)
Retrigger the leftmost joker twice

[lime inlet]

Comedian (Rare/Epic)
If any Joker with "Joker" in its name is held for an ante, turn it into a random Exotic Joker

[clear hare]

btw I figured out how to make the retriggering work properly for canvas

now I just have to paste the same code for the 30 times the joker trigger function is called

[oak herald]

disspointed that eternal mr bones still gets destroyed 😔

[weak burrow]

What if the left most joker is blueprint

That's copying that joker

Infinite loop?

[clear hare]

blueprint incompatible

[weak burrow]

Sadge

It would be funny though cuz in the end it does nothing xd

[oak herald]

holy

[cloud granite]

That is the same as with Blueprint and Brainstorm, so nothing

[lime inlet]

is there an item that can reroll booster packs yet

[thin sigil]

Idk

[lime inlet]

my laptop got fixed so back to balatro

[cloud granite]

I am redownloading everything required for Cryptid (I played with mods that don't work with 1.0.0 alpha steamodded so had to downgrade it) and now have problems with going back.
Did I install Lovely wrong? I always have issues with it when changing versions

Mods folder

[silver cobalt]

Double scale art

[lime inlet]

idk why it took me so long to realize

orthographiam can change with language

lmao

[clear hare]

what's the best language for orthographiam?

[lime inlet]

i have no idea

just thought about it

[cloud granite]

Polish?

If it's in the game, I don't remember

[cloud granite]

I want to check it in the game, can I please get help with this?

[cold sandal]

Dropshot is still using the incorrect border

[soft night]

i added two jonklers to the suggestions box, what do we think

[summer cargo]

does Ace count as less than 4 for zoomed joker

[grim tiger]

+5 is a bit much

low cards aren't that bad usually

+5 makes sense for if you're trying to play 5 card hands but +5 per high card played is nonsense

[soft night]

i should clarify that full hand means 5-card yeah

also i added a Funny

[soft night]

no

also uh

[silver cobalt]

Any feedback on this?

[cold sandal]

👍

[clear hare]

👍

[silver cobalt]

Okie dokie

[grim tiger]

outline of the bottom one seems weird

top outline looks like its supposed to blend in a bit but the bottom one stands out

also i think theres an outline pixel missing at the very top of the red scales

[silver cobalt]

Ill fix that

[weak burrow]

Yall check line 45 of the suggestion box let me know what you think

[soft night]

is this stupid enough for cryptid

[brave ibex]

I don't get what it means

[weak burrow]

Like if you have 8 blueprint compatible jokers (besides the exotic) and you held the exotic for 16 antes, it would make each joker trigger 3 times in total

[brave ibex]

is it random?

[weak burrow]

Goes from left to right

More antes more repeats

Like if you had 2 jokers and held it for 8 antes it would make them trigger 4 more times each

[empty fern]

didnt think dropshoot was very good at first..

[brave ibex]

I don't think there is a way to word that effect in a way for it to be understandable by everyone

[weak burrow]

We can come up with better wording that's not the issue

[empty fern]

"jokers gain 1 retrigger every 2 rounds (currently x)"?

[weak burrow]

I guess

It's every 2 antes since I think that would balance it the most

[brave ibex]

the best I can cme up with is retrigger 1 joker left to right for each ante completed with this joker" but even then the description doesn't cover it's intended effect well enough

[empty fern]

"1 joker gains 1 retrigger every 2 antes, going from left to right. (next joker: x)"
then the actual jokers will have the amount of retriggers under them?

[brave ibex]

I think rework it into a random joker instead of jokers left to right "Retrigger 1 rondom joker for each ante completed with this joker" would be very easy to understand

[lime inlet]

i still have 0 idea what the effect is lmao

[weak burrow]

But the problem is that's not what I imagined from the joker, the versatility comes from the "charges" the joker has from being held for long, it's meant to give you more re triggers the longer you hold it but also allowing you to shift jokers

[weak burrow]

Basically the joker allows you to get more re triggers on jokers you want while that joker is held, every 2 antes it gets 1 more "charge" and if the amount of charges you have is more than the jokers you have you start rolling back the list

I'll try to word it better

[brave ibex]

The thing is if you can’t find a good way to word it the only two options are to either change it’s effect to something more understandable or implement it’s current effect with wording that nobody can understand, and both of those aren’t great options

[clear hare]

rewording idea:
When Boss Blind defeated, add a permanent retrigger to a random Joker.
OR:
When Boss Blind defeated, add a permanent retrigger to the Joker with the fewest permament retriggers.
(This retrigger would show up as a tooltip)

[brave ibex]

Add a red seal to a joker 🗿

[brave ibex]

That sounds painfully difficult to implement but if you’re up to it I think It works well enough

[clear hare]

that might actually be possible on deck of equilibrium

[clear hare]

I see a way to do it, now that joker retriggering is already being refactored

[weak burrow]

I want it to be sort of like a charge system stored on the joker, so if you hold it for 8 antes you would have 4 re triggers that would be split equally among the jokers you buy, so saying the joker with the fewest jokers isn't what I want it to be

[clear hare]

oh

[weak burrow]

Since it would kind of naturally divide them equally

[clear hare]

yeah that mechanic with the even distribution isn't really crayonable

I know there is a mod that adds like a points system that works across multiple jokers, but it had to use a lot of tooltips and stuff to explain what was happening

[weak burrow]

I'll try to think of a better way to word it but that's the effect I want for the joker

So I don't plan to change it much

[clear hare]

alr

[brave ibex]

looking through the sheet and suggestion box I see a lot of jokers with sell effects + cursor with the buy effect, maybe we can create some more jokers with buy/sell effect and tie it all together as a viable strategy

[brave ibex]

Joker: Fridge magnet

I think that's enough joker art to last a while, gonna try to do some of the boss blinds now

[clear hare]

finally finished the joker retriggering rework

basically now it'll retrigger any sort of effect whenever that Joker applies it, for the most part

everything from odd todd to diet cola

[brave ibex]

alright, amazing

[clear hare]

there's probably lots of bugs

it even displays "Again!" whenever this happens

[brave ibex]

try with marble or something 🤔

[clear hare]

let's try it

[brave ibex]

or burglar that would be interesting

[clear hare]

how about both

[brave ibex]

even better

[clear hare]

will my game crash or not?

there were some extra "Again!" messages (or maybe they were in the wrong order) but the effects worked

[weak burrow]

whats that middle joker

i aint keeping up

[brave ibex]

canvas

[clear hare]

and now we let iterum take the spotlight

canvas iterum retriggering is really busted

because it duplicates the XMult and the card retriggers

[brave ibex]

canvas to legendary

[brave ibex]

op

[weak burrow]

i want cryptid to have like a tarlton like exotic but at the same time i dont want to just copy the idea

the idea fits the mod so well

[clear hare]

only took me ~1000 lines of code

(most of that from lovely patches)

[weak burrow]

also cicero is one busted joker

[brave ibex]

now that retrigger rework is done, what's next 🤔

[clear hare]

more of the suggestions

I also have to finish off the stakes

but I'm going to take a break for today, retrigger rework was pretty painful

the amount of patching was like twice as much as what I needed for Talisman lmao

[brave ibex]

i feel

we will wait until tommorow 🙌

[clear hare]

👍

might come back later tonight but it depends on my availability

bye for now

also I think I know how I plan to implement Double Scale without having to do a billion patches

basically it will keep track of all the other Jokers' variables and track when they change

and predict which of these come from scaling, and then do the thing that makes them scale quadratically

[brave ibex]

that's good

[weak burrow]

Gains a charge every two antes. Each charge re-triggers a blueprint-compatible Joker until every compatible Joker has been re-triggered, after which charges roll over and the cycle begins anew.
@clear hare what you think of this description? tried to work with chatgpt

@brave ibex i would want to know what you think also

[brave ibex]

I think it's good enough

[weak burrow]

idk if i should include the word blueprint compatible or not

[brave ibex]

it may not be needed

but it's fine either way

I think this is much better

[weak burrow]

ill just leave it as is now so people can decide

[brave ibex]

man i'm lagging 😩

[weak burrow]

i knew wording wasnt a problem, just worked with chatgpt for like a few back and forths until it looked right

[clear hare]

i dony use blueprint compatibility for retrigger eligibility so I feel like it isn’t neexed

actually you could do the description Yorick style if you want to retrigger all jojers for every other ante held

Retrigger every Joker 0 times, permanently gain 1 retrigger after two boss blinds defeated (Currently: 0/2)

[oak herald]

so, whens the next "beta" release, all of this sounds intresting tbh

[clear hare]

i don’t really have a timetable in mind, I just do it after adding a certain amount of features

probably all of the requested items + the last 8 stakes will be in the next release

[weak burrow]

Problem is like is the changing amount when you have more charges than jokers, if you have 8 charges and 2 jokers then you'll need to dynamically edit that somehow

I think the original idea is still better since it's static

[brave ibex]

Nostalgic Ox done, I think these sprites SHOULD be correct

[weak burrow]

Like I'm thinking about a simple baron mime build with this joker

2 jokers and stonks

[brave ibex]

would go crazy

[weak burrow]

Indeed

[brave ibex]

gonna go do the rest of the nostalgic bosses in the same b&w color scheme

[weak burrow]

I think using the word blueprint compatible in the description makes sense for now until we have a good way to tell which jokers will get activated and how many times

So I'll keep it until we have some good way

[brave ibex]

although I have a gut feeling that some of these effects are incorrect, like I could have sworn 0 chips was manacle's old effect and not ox's, but that's for another time I think

[weak burrow]

Well anyways I'm going to sleep it's 1am gn nerds

[brave ibex]

pst gang where you at 😭

[oak herald]

https://tenor.com/view/blueprint-joker-balatro-heart-gif-locket-gif-8056449517919400500

[clear hare]

iirc I looked at game code for these, but I can check again when I add them

[clear hare]

that’s not too bad tbh

although a fixed value is probably better for simplicity

[brave ibex]

i'll finish them all first, then i'll just go through some gluk vids and figure it out from there, no need

2 Done

[brave ibex]

3 Done (Nostalgic Pillar)

[fickle shadow]

Pure evil: a boss blind where you have to score under the requirement on purpose

Score under par to proceed

[grim tiger]

1x base score

[cold sandal]

The Brick

[waxen oxide]

and you gotta play 5 cards

honestly gotta see a joker like bloodstone but for chips

[brave ibex]

4 Done (Nostalgic Arm)

I think The shackle can have it's effect replaced in favour of Nostalgic arm imo

[mental tiger]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6st5Uf08xz0nNjXJ0LZiBo6TG26F5IZRkV4xulZicI/edit#gid=0

Lemme just post that

[brave ibex]

I'm good lol

[cold sandal]

There's a pinned message containing the link (Alongside a bunch of other important stuff)

[mental tiger]

Yeah ik but sometimes people forget

[brave ibex]

6 Done now

[clear hare]

nice

only one more!

[brave ibex]

Think all that's left is mark and manacle

manacle isn't there but still

[soft night]

look if Yorick can be a Legend, then our boy Waluigi can be a Legend too

imagine cracking open a soul and you just hear

WAEH

[clear hare]

I think I didn't add it because "Subtract discards from mult" is a weak effect

speaking of which

this is the relevant part of the code from 0.8.8 that has all the boss blind info

and everything I listed looks right

oh yeah also serpent

I would just change these to do division

[soft night]

serpres

[clear hare]

so:
Nostalgic Manacle - Divide Mult by (Discards + 1)
Nostalgic Serpent - Divide Mult by hand level

[brave ibex]

I like it

[soft night]

pog

[brave ibex]

ties perfectly with it's nostalgic effect without being a pushover

[clear hare]

if this was a balanced mod I'd make all the hand-yeeting bosses just debuff the hand instead

but it's not a balanced mod

[brave ibex]

it's funnier like this

[clear hare]

𐤉

[brave ibex]

Last 3

Now time for some more original bosses

added a new effect for the shackle while i was at it

[clear hare]

probably not this demo, but we can do a boss blind update next demo

[brave ibex]

Yeah ofc, rn there’s enough jokers for about 2 demos so I have some time to finish things 😂

[clear hare]

also I’m surprised nobody made gradient API yet since it was talked about and I’ll need it for the next stakes

fine, I’ll do it myself

[cold sandal]

Ima drop the art priority list again {I updated it a bit}

[clear hare]

someone already posted a code snippet of how they did it iirc

[cold sandal]

Art Priority List:

1. Bolded items that don't have art, as these are what are planned to be next added
2. Common & Uncommon Jokers, if I'm not mistaken, Math said they wanted to add some of these next
3. Vouchers, we don't have much voucher art yet
4. Bosses { Note: The formatting for blinds is wacky, see #1219749193204371456 message }
5. Exotic Jokers, due to being more complex and just being cool
6. Anything that isn't listed in this list due to being too small of a section { Booster Packs, Enhancements, etc. }
7. Keys
8. Rare & Epic Jokers, most of these already have art
9. Decks, There are a lot of decks already with art and { For now at least } we probably don't need more
   Ofc, this list doesn't have to be followed, it's just in order of what in my opinion is the most to least immediately required art, and there are other factors that come in to play as well { Formatting, mainly }

[clear hare]

you should put it in pins too

[cold sandal]

Fair enough

[clear hare]

and remove nativefs (if you haven’t), it’s not a dependency anymore

[cold sandal]

Already have

[clear hare]

also I was thinking about it more, and I might drop a 1.0.0 right when Steamodded 1.0.0 releases

I’ll still add the ideas that don’t make it after, it’ll just be nice and will likely result in more downloads lol

plus if I added everything then we’d have like a 0.40.0 demo before 1.0

[cold sandal]

Can't wait for people to crash the game with the retrigger jokers

[cold sandal]

Can't wait for release 0.1000.0

[clear hare]

oh that’s definitely going to happen

i encourage people to download the latest source and spawn in canvas or boredom to go bug hunting

since I didn’t bug test much

boredom and oops all 6s is probably the best way tbh

[cold sandal]

Im gonna create 50 boredoms

[clear hare]

they can’t retrigger each other anymore

[cold sandal]

My 10 boredoms seem to be retriggering eachother

[clear hare]

are you in an infinite loop?

[cold sandal]

No

It might just be that they're doing it for the card retrigger part though

[clear hare]

Oh yeah that’s not blocked

[cold sandal]

hmm

[clear hare]

only the nested retriggering is

[cold sandal]

And my game froze

[clear hare]

what did you do?

[cold sandal]

Sold error

[clear hare]

ok maybe I need to make error retrigger-proof

[cold sandal]

ima try it with only 1 Boredom

[clear hare]

the game is trying to make 1024 times as many jokers as you currently have

Also does ERROR always proc after 1 or 2 rounds still? That’s a bug I’m tryinf to fix

[cold sandal]

Error worked after 1 round but at the same time it looked like the Boredoms were retriggering it when I finished the round

[clear hare]

It was retriggering the countdown, so that makes sense

[cold sandal]

I sold error

I had 1 Oops all 6s and 1 Boredom

[clear hare]

it retriggered 3 times for some reason

[cold sandal]

It was doing something weird with cards too

When I played a card it showed Again 3 times before it actually seemed to retrigger the card

Also is WHIP supposed to be $10

[clear hare]

no

forgot to change the price lmao

Again! could be retriggering itself too

i should patch that

[cold sandal]

Ima try this

That works just fine

[brave ibex]

The Clock done, hopefully in-game we get the effect I was trying to go for with this

[cold sandal]

Loading screen blind

[brave ibex]

it's not like the others

[cold sandal]

How to naneinf Talisman:

This might take a while

I've already done x1.5 mult on one stone card over 400 times

I think the game has chosen to show me the end result of this

[brave ibex]

iterum moment

[clear hare]

Iterum does that

[red jasper]

Error

Syntax error: game.lua:4: '=' expected near 'Game'

Traceback

[love "callbacks.lua"]:228: in function 'handler'
[C]: at 0x7ffc6f5f2fa0
[C]: in function 'require'
main.lua:16: in main chunk
[C]: in function 'require'
[C]: in function 'xpcall'
[C]: in function 'xpcall'

idk what is happening

[shell socket]

is there a download for this mod?

[red jasper]

check pinned messages

[shell socket]

ah! when i first clicked it, it said there werent any

i guess discord was just being weird again

[cold sandal]

I let it run while I was eating

[shell socket]

talisman is installed and im on the current steamodded version but when i put cryptid into the mod folder it doesnt show up in the game

[brave ibex]

cryptid needs to be in it's own seperate folder I think

The rule completed

[cold sandal]

:)

I crashed the game oops

[brave ibex]

m sacrifice detected

[cold sandal]

@clear hare I think I found a bug (I only was trying to retrigger Error once this time)

[brave ibex]

maybe it was canvas + Boredom causing something?

[cold sandal]

I only had canvas

And retrigger jokers cant retrigger the retriggering of jokers

[brave ibex]

weird. if only you had video recording

[cold sandal]

Anyways now I've won the game

I sold the worse of the 2 m jokers so i could buy a third canvas

[serene pawn]

prolly loading

[cold sandal]

Anyways there's now a bunch of stuff next to the boss blinds

Also idk if this is a cryptid thing or a steamodded thing but uh

[brave ibex]

are those meant to be anything or no

[brave ibex]

The Mimic Finished

[cold sandal]

When I was putting them down I was doing it with the intention they'd be used for the boss blinds, and when you started working on the art for the boss blinds I decided to go back and finish adding the runic characters

[brave ibex]

well I couldn't make the rage look good so I made something else lol

it looks similar so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

by similar i mean similar to the other boss blinds btw

[rough violet]

could ascendant stake just be that jimbo stake texture

[cloud granite]

The problem was that Talisman folder was named Talisman-main

[cloud granite]

Blueprint says Dropshot is incompatible, but it does copy it

[thin sigil]

?

[cloud granite]

?

[thin sigil]

?

[cloud granite]

m

[thin sigil]

n

[cold sandal]

m

Jevonn out here carrying with the boss arts

[thin sigil]

holy crap

that's alot of symbols

[cold sandal]

Speaking of Boss Blinds what do yall think of

The Ruins 𐰬:
After every hand or discard, freeze one card in hand, and burn another card in hand.
Frozen Card: Can't be selected. Effect goes away after next hand played.
Burnt Card: Doesn't count when determining hand type. Destroy this card when discarded. Effect goes away after next hand played.

[weak burrow]

i wonder with this mod and talisman whats the easiest way to reach the new inf, but without using steel cards strats

fewest jokers inf v2

[cold sandal]

Probably something like this

[weak burrow]

yeah but i think the hand level is also a factor

i think it should be level 1 hand for a baseline

[cold sandal]

Still probably something like that

[weak burrow]

im also wondering what the strat will be once more exotic jokers start getting added

this mod is getting too big for math xd

[lime inlet]

Poker Hands are upgraded with 25% more chip and 50% more mult per level
idk if this is good wording

[lime inlet]

Rescribere might crash the game lmao

[weak burrow]

What does it do? With all the exotics I can't keep up with the effects

[lime inlet]

When a Joker is sold, add its effect to every other Joker excluding this one

When a poker hand is upgraded, increase its chip gain by 25% and mult gain by 50% per level
changed wording

[weak burrow]

Well we might need to ban some jokers from the challenge since something like activus and that can just go forever by themselves

[lime inlet]

might need to add "Rescribere's effect will not activate on an Exotic Joker"

selling Rescribere with another Rescribere will likely crash the game immediately

also no repeatedly added effects

[cloud granite]

Or this. Takes a while to scale there, but I think eventually I will reach it

(When Exponentia is scaled high enough, move it to the right of blueprint)

I got scammed, this gave me nothing

[lime inlet]

just thought of a voucher that simply increases the limit of hermit and temperance

[oak herald]

three gateways

[lime inlet]

DoE might be a tiny bit broken

[oak herald]

unironically might be the best deck in the game

[cloud granite]

I am 99% sure it is the best deck in the game so far

[cloud granite]

Just use them until you get the exotic you want

[oak herald]

maybe nerfing gateway to cost like 20$ or something would fix it

no way it should remain at 4$ tbh

[cloud granite]

By the way, if you need to see your money - press escape, scroll to Bull and check its stats

[clear hare]

spectral cost only matters in DoE lmao

[lime inlet]

i think rescribere might need a couple of nerfs
it is going to cause a lot of problems during implementation

[oak herald]

let's be honest yeah

[cloud granite]

Poly arcana pack pog!

[clear hare]

wait until you get consumables with editions in your consumable slot

[oak herald]

oh hi there perkeo

[clear hare]

they actually work

[lime inlet]

what happens when perkeo tries to negative the edition consumable

[oak herald]

you can't make this stuff up

[cloud granite]

I remember poly consumables were in another mod

[rough violet]

whar does that mean??

[clear hare]

it just sets it to negative

[rough violet]

dx?

[cloud granite]

Polychrome arcana pack, cool!

[clear hare]

shiny

[cloud granite]

No

morefluff has color cards and some way to make them polychrome