#Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]

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cold sandal
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49 Jokers

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we almost have as many decks as jokers

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we need uhhhhhhhh 71 more jokers :D

lime inlet
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wait how many items have we added

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lemme see

cold sandal
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6 Spectrals

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31 Vouchers

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8 Skip tags

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55 (?) Keys (If there's one for every deck)

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18 bosses

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4 final bosses

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Theres another deck not listed in the spreadsheet making 41 decks and 56 (?) keys

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And theres the key booster packs which dont have a name yet

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This

lime inlet
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wait where did you get 18 bosses

cold sandal
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That includes the legacy bosses

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Except for legacy arm

lime inlet
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31 Vouchers (21 Tier III + 5 Tier II + 5 Tier I)
22 Boss Blinds (12 Normal + 4 Final + 6 Legacy)
41 Decks
56 Keys (15 Base + 41 Cryptid)
8 Skip Tags
6 Spectrals

213 Total```
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is this good for now?

cold sandal
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Just looking at this is insane lmao

lime inlet
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lol

clear hare
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we need a progress spreadsheet

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but yeah that looks good

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I love how we almost have more decks than jokers

lime inlet
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is it better for the entries to be divided into multiple sheets?

clear hare
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doesn't rly matter

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makes it easier to ctrl+f

lime inlet
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lel

cold sandal
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We still need names for these:

Scaling Deck (Deck {Name in use} / Idea by Mystic Misclick):
Start with 3 eternal scaling jokers. +1 Joker slot. Deck starts with only 5 Polychrome Lucky Red Seal 2s of Spades.

Key Booster Pack (Item Pack {Needs a proper name} / Idea by y_not_tony):
Contains 2 keys. (Mega and Jumbo variants work similarily to how other Mega and Jumbo variants work)

lime inlet
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idk but i thought of some stake ideas

clear hare
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Summit Deck?

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Lockbox Pack?

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idk i asked chatgpt for a few ideas

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and most of them are bad

lime inlet
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- All stickers can stack onto each other
- Stickers can appear on all purchasable items
- The chances of getting a Common Joker increases
- Final Boss Blinds can appear past ante 4
- Rerolls increase by $2 per reroll
- Vouchers restock every 2 antes```
clear hare
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these are some good ideas

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I'm going to try and finish porting Cryptid to Steamodded 1.0.0 in the meantime

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I already got Iterum ported

lime inlet
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noice
might as well brainstorm some more

clear hare
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also the base version of steamodded adds an extra suit because why not

cold sandal
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Can't wait for the 600 suits mod

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and eventually the 6000 suits mod

clear hare
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infinite suits mod, which adds randomized suits that are dynamically created on startup

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porting is going well so far

cold sandal
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Something completely random is gonna be extremely problematic

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Calling it right now

clear hare
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they nerfed debug mode

cold sandal
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Insane

lime inlet
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- All stickers can stack onto each other
- Stickers can appear on all purchasable items
- The chances of getting a Common Joker increases
- Final Boss Blinds can appear past ante 4
- Rerolls increase by $2 per reroll
- Vouchers restock every 2 antes
- -1 Booster Pack slot
- Win ante is set to ante 10
- Voucher cost is increased by 50%
- Big Blinds can become Boss Blinds
- Blind rewards decrease by $2
- Reroll cost never resets
- Shops can have Blank items```
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might of gone overboard

clear hare
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reroll cost never resets sounds like the old pack thing that people hated

clear hare
lime inlet
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what about a Locked sticker (can't be used x rounds after obtaining it)

clear hare
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too similar to perishable

lime inlet
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k

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how many of these can be implemented

clear hare
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all of them

lime inlet
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: )

cold sandal
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Big blinds becoming final boss blinds after ante 4 cant wait

lime inlet
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they have a chance to

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that'd be evil if all of them were

cold sandal
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There'd probably be a seed that'd do that

lime inlet
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lol

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imagine with seed searcher we found a seed with double final boss blinds ante 10

clear hare
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imagine if mod support was easy to add to seed searcher

clear hare
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maybe like 30% for the big to be a boss and 5/30 for it to be a final boss

cold sandal
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so 1/6?

clear hare
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yep

lime inlet
clear hare
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how I'd implement it would be to just not prevent boss blinds from spawning, which makes it 1/6

clear hare
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it'd be about 3% for both to happen

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also nice job steamodded

lime inlet
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nice

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imagine all small blinds are automatically skipped with no tag reward

clear hare
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💀

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just remove small blinds

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only two blinds per ante

cold sandal
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Say bye to your small blinds buckaroo

clear hare
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small_blind 🪓

cold sandal
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Last stake just removes big blinds

clear hare
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universum works now, although you did correctly predicted that steamodded restructuring caused an error

cold sandal
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all skip except without the tags

lime inlet
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"All ante based restrictions for boss blinds are removed"

clear hare
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I just realized I have no idea to test Gateway because consumables are broken

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wait nevermind

cold sandal
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we need either 90 or 75 jokers for the funny

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So we can add more decks and still have less decks than jokers

clear hare
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also finally balanced this joker in the meantime

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and with that, everything is ported to 1.0.0

cold sandal
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Is Maximized + Pareidolia + like 100 Blueprints + Mime + Baron still op

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ok maybe less than 100 blueprints

lime inlet
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Here me out

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for a new stake

clear hare
lime inlet
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After obtaining $100, 15% of money is taken at the end of each ante

cold sandal
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Taxes

clear hare
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finished porting it to 1.0.0

lime inlet
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i don't like seeing people overcome economic struggle in Balatro

clear hare
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let me add the enhanced decks since they should be easy

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surely

lime inlet
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15% of money will be taken after every ante when $ is greater than $100

cold sandal
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Surely

lime inlet
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is this a better way to phrase it

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i aleady have 15 stakes made :)

clear hare
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we need one more for a round 24

cold sandal
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Next up: Adding more enhancements

clear hare
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and more tarots^

lime inlet
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All rare jokers are perishable :)

cold sandal
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1/2 chance to retriger card twice

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enhancement

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hmmm

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The Eclipse (Tarot)
Enhance 1 selected card to an Echo Card {1/2 chance to retrigger card twice}

clear hare
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ok, now time to add the effects

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going to change the localization to "Start with a deck containing only Bonus Cards"

dusty plover
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once like 5-ish jokers are added it would be nice to have a demo link

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if not thats fine but thats what i think might be a good point

lime inlet
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there are like 50 jokers :)

cold sandal
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We need 26 more for 75

dusty plover
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DAMN

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ok this is farther along than i thought

lime inlet
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there are a total of around 213 entries so far

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this

cold sandal
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VIDEO INSTALL GUIDE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUr0gXE77rk

The CSL {Make your suggestions here}:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AyXwy49X0XaJxidAGO_KCeTgURd-caMN_454BSYMxMQ/edit?usp=sharing
Also - please carefully read the formatting and use it when making suggestions, we'd rather not have to sit there fixing all the formatting errors and would like to be able to just be able to do screening without that. It's recommended to join the Cryptid Discord before making suggestions as a lot of the function for the CSL is there, though I don't think I can have the link for that here unfortunately.

Old CMC Sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6st5Uf08xz0nNjXJ0LZiBo6TG26F5IZRkV4xulZicI/edit#gid=0

Current Release:
https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/releases/latest

Talisman (Required for Cryptid):
https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Talisman/releases/latest

m

GitHub

What's new in v0.5.1
No formal patchnotes this time, but there are a lot of new changes, including:

Ideas from the winners of the Jolly Open competition hosted on the Cryptid Discord:

A vouch...

GitHub

Fixed a bug where only the mantissa of numbers were being loaded properly from savefiles
Note: For installing the latest release of Cryptid, use the version bundled in Cryptid's latest release

lime inlet
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pot of jokes doesn't have the implemented check mark

cold sandal
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Theres the spreadsheet for it

lime inlet
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just noticed

cold sandal
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Got it

clear hare
dusty plover
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which jokers are added so far?

clear hare
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Universum, Iterum, Pot of Jokes, Maximized

dusty plover
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mmmm nice

clear hare
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I'm adding 8 decks now though so then I might have enough for a release

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I'm writing it in the alpha version of Steamodded that's still buggy so I'll wait at least until then

dusty plover
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niiice...

clear hare
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like all the consumables are removed

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good news is that making this was easy, and I can reuse the same code for all 8 decks

cold sandal
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Also does Gateway function properly?

clear hare
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yes

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both in spawning and in effect

cold sandal
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Cool

clear hare
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(although I need testing to see if people are actually getting the 0.3%, I upped it to like 50% just to test)

cold sandal
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just checking so I could check it off

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Btw just a request but can you make Dropshot next?

clear hare
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sure

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going to wrap up for the night after enhanced decks tho but when I work on this next

cold sandal
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ty :)

lime inlet
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dang i want edit perms now

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timezones why do u do this

clear hare
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some of the textures may need to be changed but all the enhancement decks are there now

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for now I'm just using the enhancement as the art but that could change

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my two favorite deck names

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going to do a run on stone card deck to see how hard it is

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all the planets will be pluto so shouldn't be too hard surely

lime inlet
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Stoned Deck

clear hare
cloud granite
clear hare
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alr

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let me know if there should be any different names for the other enhancement decks, I just used the tarot name

lime inlet
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See-Through Deck for glass?

clear hare
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Deck of Justice goes hard though

lime inlet
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leave the undertale stuff to balatrotale

clear hare
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two best jokers for this build

lime inlet
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peak

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Probable deck for lucky ig

clear hare
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nice joke game

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this deck is still pretty busted

lime inlet
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noice

clear hare
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gn

lime inlet
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gn

thin sigil
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BRUH

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2 min before I come online

lime inlet
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lmao

clear hare
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I mean I can stay for a bit longer if you want

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lol

thin sigil
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nah

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i don't mind

clear hare
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alr, gn then

thin sigil
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gn

cloud granite
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By the way, is any available version past the one with Iterum and Universum?

clear hare
cloud granite
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Isn't 0.9.8 the latest version?

hazy slate
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They're working with the 1.0 alpha, which will require everyone to do rewrites

lime inlet
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maybe to prevent the redeemed deck ticket combo you can just make it so that redeemed deck says when a voucher is purchased

cold sandal
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Trying to use the Antimatter deck after gold staking Abandoned and Royalty deck:

fickle shadow
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Joker that halves or doubles the game speed

native lotus
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Now da question is, how the keys will look

clear hare
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I imagine them to be pretty small-sized, like tags

cold sandal
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Heres an attempt at a Red Key for the Red Deck

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Here it is upscaled

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Actually I can shave off a few pixels

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Heres a fixed version

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Upscaled

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I removed the 3 pixel empty border around it

mental tiger
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I think we should have like 3-6 different backgrounds that the exotic jokers use to keep them more consistent

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just a thought

native lotus
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yeah fair

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with exotics i made i was pretty much winging them

lime inlet
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m

cold sandal
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Yo

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can anybody convieniently drop the exact hex code of the respective colors for the blue, green, yellow, and black decks

native lotus
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No way

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Now

lime inlet
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m

native lotus
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How are like the special deck ones gonna look

cold sandal
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Get ready

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for the

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Blank deck key

native lotus
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Th?

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The what deck key?

cold sandal
native lotus
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Huh

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I missed the creation of this one

fickle shadow
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It wasn't noteworthy

lime inlet
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should my cursed stake ideas be included

clear hare
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sure

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stake 24 boutta be impossible

lime inlet
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Compound Interest:
When $ is greater than $100, gain 15% of total $ every ante
Percentage increases by 5% per consecutive payout

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money

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i just ripped this from my stake ideas and reversed it lmao

cold sandal
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Might need some work but heres an attempt at the Conveyor Key (115)

Lemme know what you think

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Upscaled

lime inlet
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what is the conveyor deck supposed to look like?

cold sandal
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idk

lime inlet
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conveyor belt

cold sandal
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this but the red in the key pictue and with a dark backgroud facing up or something

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And also not just a baba is you sprite

lime inlet
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lol

cold sandal
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Better idea: I'll just drop the conveyor deck art

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Upscaled

native lotus
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Huh

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Looks awesome

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After a Quick Look at the spreadsheet, that’s a lot of decks

clear hare
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Yes it is

native lotus
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It’s gonna be like an entire dlc or 2 to the game lmfao

clear hare
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True

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We casually quadrupled the number of decks in the game

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Also I came up with a better name for key packs

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Keychains

lime inlet
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should there be a total to keep track

cold sandal
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Remember how theres a chaotic deck?(120)

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Anyways

lime inlet
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nice

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should there be an animation of it

cold sandal
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uhhhhhhh

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idk

lime inlet
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it's fine if no

cold sandal
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If theres a way to auto generate the frames then yeah because im lazy lmao

clear hare
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current count on decks is 41

lime inlet
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it'd be cool to see a percentage how much is done

clear hare
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based on just number of check marks

lime inlet
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we're so close guys

clear hare
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only 96% left!

cold sandal
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And this number might go down as well

clear hare
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it definitely will

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I plan on adding Dropshot today so maybe I can outpace it

cold sandal
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anyways time to get my thoguhts together and make like 10 more joker ideas or somethign

clear hare
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we should add more enhancements balatrojoker

cold sandal
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yes

clear hare
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this can't be cryptid without 20 of them

cold sandal
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We have 1 new one and the 7 base ones

clear hare
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*8

lime inlet
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bruh i need to find my old enhancement suggestions from like december

clear hare
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oh yeah we also need to put the stake suggestions on here

lime inlet
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- All stickers can stack onto each other
- Stickers can appear on all purchasable items
- The chances of getting a Common Joker increases
- Final Boss Blinds can appear past ante 4
- Rerolls increase by $2 per reroll
- Vouchers restock every 2 antes
- -1 Booster Pack slot
- Win ante is set to ante 10
- Voucher cost is increased by 50%
- Big Blinds can become Boss Blinds
- Blind rewards decrease by $2
- Reroll cost never resets
- Shops can have Blank items
- Small Blinds are removed
- 35% of money will be taken after every ante when $ is greater than $100```
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here you go

clear hare
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could you come up with like sixteen random colors and an order for the stakes you suggested @lime inlet

lime inlet
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hell nah

cold sandal
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Chili Pepper {Uncommon}:
Gains x.5 mult per round. Destroyed after 8 rounds.

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starts at 1x

lime inlet
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Every card that shares at least 1 attribute with this card gains [reward]

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random idea i found

clear hare
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amiable enhancement

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because they just want to be friends

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that also should be like for a specific thing

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maybe rank?

cold sandal
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oh and we also need tarot cards for all of them

lime inlet
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The Speaker for Echo (lol)

clear hare
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I might start listing key effects indiviually since some will have to differ slightly from decks

cold sandal
lime inlet
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ah

cold sandal
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New edition idea:
Foiololychrative
+20 chips, +4 mult, x1.2 mult, create a random negative joker when sold.

lime inlet
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what

cold sandal
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A combination of every edition

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Very balanced

clear hare
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+0.5 joker slots

cold sandal
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Only can hold half joker

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New deck idea:
Very Fair Deck
-2 hands, -2 discards, Vouchers no longer appear in the shop.

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Good luck gold+ staking this one sherlock!

lime inlet
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does this look good

clear hare
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sure

lime inlet
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cool

cold sandal
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we about to hit that 200 mark with all these keys

clear hare
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I'm going to only do ones that have to differ slightly from deck effect

lime inlet
cold sandal
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Can't wait for the Key of Envy

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Combined with lockpick

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To redeem itself

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100 times or something

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Can't wait for deck of envy to redeem the Very Fair Key

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💀

clear hare
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Let me change Unlocker so that it also applies to packs

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also let me add all the stake ideas in a random order for now

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just to spice things up

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literally going to use a randomizer

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oh wait

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what if we did a few custom stickers

lime inlet
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if you want i have the entire stake thing copied

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like on a copied sheet

clear hare
lime inlet
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i thought that was math is funderscore lmao

clear hare
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lmao

cold sandal
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Banana Sticker
1/10 chance this joker is destroyed at the end of round

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Perishable Sticker but more evil

lime inlet
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k did it

clear hare
lime inlet
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Jokers can gain stickers after purchase

clear hare
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that is just unfair

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lmao

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I like the idea of cards being face down

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in shops

lime inlet
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Rearranged Sticker
When Blind is selected, Joker is shuffled and cannot be moved

clear hare
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that one feels a bit jank

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we could have jokers spawn in shop as pinned

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since that's already a sticker-like modifier

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I like the idea of multiple-of-8 stakes being very symbolic/difficult modifiers

lime inlet
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Banana stake

cold sandal
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When The Claw ᛣ

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The hardest thing ever

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Deciding what runes to use for boss blinds

clear hare
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put them on the spreadsheet too

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for ease of tracking

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ok I came up with 16 stake colors

cold sandal
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Good luck Platinum Staking the Very Fair Deck buckaroo

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Link Sticker
Links itself to one of your obtained jokers. If either are destroyed or sold, both will be destroyed/sold

weak burrow
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I wonder if you can combine those stakes ideas with the house rules mod

clear hare
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I think I figured out the changes every round logic but I still have to do everything else

native lotus
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Make it a diamond chip

clear hare
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that's for the 16th stake

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and platinum for 24th stake

native lotus
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Oh god

clear hare
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I have this one as Emerald Stake (#23)

native lotus
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Do we have stakes from 8 to 16?

clear hare
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order TBD

native lotus
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But to we have the difficulties and stuff

clear hare
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same with names

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all the effects are there too

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I also just finished dropshot so let me showcase it

native lotus
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My brain is not braining enough

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I didn’t look at the dock for 16 hrs and the amount of stuff has basically doubled

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Jesus fuck I don’t think ya outpacing this

clear hare
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my goal is probably like 1 per day

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this has to be my favorite joker effect I've made so far

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@cold sandal

cold sandal
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Cool

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The border looks dark for some reason, is that just a recording thing?

clear hare
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it's darker than normal in your texture

cold sandal
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Oh I didn't notice that

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Thats something with most of the jokers i've made hold on

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Ima fix that

native lotus
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Ok I know this is like mod oriented but I gotta complain to someone that will at least see this, my 12 yr old pc doesn’t work again, great…

lime inlet
weak burrow
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Nice

lime inlet
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the completion percentage dropped to 3.11% lmao

cold sandal
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The darker border kinda works with Canvas so I left that

lime inlet
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technically speaking the author of the keys is the one who made the idea of the keys in that way
aka mathisfun

cold sandal
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Fixed Spiritual Cleanse (again)

clear hare
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no shot

lime inlet
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FIWB(fuck it we ball)

clear hare
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my dropshot is X12.6 mult :(

cold sandal
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Gotta love the wild card deck

lime inlet
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however universum can clear that in a couple planets

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and iterum is iterum

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orthographiam shouldnt be that hard to code in right?

cold sandal
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Vendere + Clone Machine Voucher

vestal seal
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so is the style scheme for exotics 3 layers

lime inlet
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so like 60 double tags?

cold sandal
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Yeah lmao

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Gets orbital tag

clear hare
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i got universum

lime inlet
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FIWB

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i think you win

clear hare
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finally got flush

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I'll get past boss so I should win

cold sandal
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Should I change the link for the Dropshot and Spiritual Cleanse art so they link to the fixed versions?

clear hare
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sure

lime inlet
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Shapeshifter:
When Blind is selected, turn into a random Joker matching the highest rarity of owned Jokers

clear hare
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yeah I think we're fine

cold sandal
lime inlet
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you'd have to have an exotic first

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also it can be a duplicate of a Joker lol

cold sandal
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I just realised

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Vampire + Any of the enhancement decks

clear hare
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ok that was pretty free

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exotics are exotic for a reason

native lotus
clear hare
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yeah because I said it

lime inlet
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

native lotus
fickle shadow
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I think I mentioned in a different thread an idea of a card edition fusion for glass and stone type

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Quartz, has extra chips and doubles mult but is less likely to smash

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Whether or not it would regain its suit and rank I dunno

lime inlet
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m

cold sandal
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Follow the leader:
If played hand contains 5 cards and only 1 scoring card, retrigger it 9 times

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Colorshift:
Every Polychrome, Holographic, and Foil joker will randomly cycle between being Polychrome, Holographic, and Foil at the end of each round

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The Exiled:
x7 mult if played hand contains exactly 1 card

lime inlet
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i think the last one has been done already lol

cold sandal
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oh

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ok

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Unnamed Joker
If hand contains exactly 1 nonscoring card, add a random seal to it

lime inlet
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just realized with the stakes

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you could theoretically have a rental, perishable, eternal, and banana sticker on like a voucher

cold sandal
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Perishable sticker Banana sticker Gros Michel

lime inlet
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we should make an achievement for that

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ultimate banana

clear hare
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We need a tag-sized icon for Cryptid

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Art for one of the tags or stickers would probably work

lime inlet
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m

clear hare
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We could also just make it m

lime inlet
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m is just my catchphrase now

clear hare
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One of my school’s club’s Discord server has a channel where everyone just types the lowercase letter m

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If you type something else you get temporarily banned from chatting

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even something sneaky like м

lime inlet
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lol

lime inlet
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what if we bring back new game+ but a little different

clear hare
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New Game-

lime inlet
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NewgameX

cloud granite
clear hare
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m

lime inlet
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m

cloud granite
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rn

lime inlet
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currently grinding tiles zen mode rn so not much cryptid

cold sandal
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52 jokers right now

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anyways

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m

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we gotta have an m joker

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exotic

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description just appears as m

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but its effect is if all cards in your deck contain an m in their name and all your jokers contain an m and you have 5 (or more) jokers you automatically beat the blind

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In one hand

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Even if the blind requires infinity score

lime inlet
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what if there was a Joker that allowed you to automatically beat a blind but you'd have to score a very specific random score

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The Match
Must score within 5% above Blind requirement

thin sigil
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I have a crazy idea

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What if there was a final boss at the 8th and 16th ante, and then at the 24th there is a FINAL final boss
Which is harder than all the rest

weak burrow
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what about ante 32

lime inlet
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what if every 4 antes it combines 2 random boss/final boss blinds

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or it does something like a back to back situation

thin sigil
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maybe

uncut nymph
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legendary joker
Every time a card is played give it +1 mult with a max of 12 mult
Removes mult when joker is sold

lime inlet
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this is the first legendary joker suggestion

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which is crazy since there are about 50 joker submissions rn

uncut nymph
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what would u change with it

lime inlet
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we have a new rarity called exotic(naming scheme is latin stuff)

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and since this is the unbalanced mod

uncut nymph
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oh yh true

lime inlet
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people have just gone wild

uncut nymph
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yh exotic is like the new legendary

lime inlet
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i mean one exotic gives a card 1X mult per letter in its name

weak burrow
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Exotic is just legendary but more broken

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Besides maybe perkeo

uncut nymph
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yh insane

weak burrow
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Since that's the most broken legendary

lime inlet
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perkeo is perkeo

uncut nymph
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how do u get exotics then

weak burrow
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Do we make an exotic perkeo?

lime inlet
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spectral

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perkeo becomes an exotic

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lmao

weak burrow
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Tbh that would balance it

uncut nymph
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we should add legendaries to shop then and make them really rare

lime inlet
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did i see the word

balance

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the only rule is that it can't be boring

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everything else goes

weak burrow
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I mean my original suggestion for my exotic iterum was even more busted

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Math made it but I gave the idea

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I wanted x2 not 1.5

lime inlet
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llo

uncut nymph
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an exotic like blueprint but it copies literally every other joker in the order that they're in

weak burrow
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There's a joker like that

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From a different mod

uncut nymph
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i swear i was just about to say is there an

uncut nymph
lime inlet
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tarlton is like blueprint but way way way better

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jelly mod

weak burrow
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Tarlton yeah

uncut nymph
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o ggs ill get it now so

weak burrow
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I forgot the name

lime inlet
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jelly mod is a little

weak burrow
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I think jelly mod is just not at a good state rn

lime inlet
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broken

weak burrow
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Wait for the rework

uncut nymph
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yh true

weak burrow
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Tbh I would like porting them into this mod but we would need permission

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Tarlton and dagonet

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And maybe cicero

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Those 3 are busted as hell

lime inlet
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dagonet goes hard

uncut nymph
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what about 4 rare tarots that destroy all cards of a suit

weak burrow
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Sounds like a good spectral idea

lime inlet
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also i should prob ask math to redo redeo(lmao redeo=redo)

uncut nymph
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or spectral yh

lime inlet
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i suggested redeo to be -1 ante per $100 spent on Jokers

weak burrow
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Tbh how would you spend so much on jokers

lime inlet
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it's definitely worth it in the late game

weak burrow
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You'd need to just randomly buy and sell jokers

lime inlet
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when you have a lot of money and you wanna scale really high you have a joker that essentially gives infinite time

weak burrow
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We need the infinite score mod to make scaling worth the effort

lime inlet
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that'd be great

weak burrow
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There's a planned lovely rework for it

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Then it would be good

lime inlet
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imagine you're at ante 400 with the mod and you think you're gonna die so you just redeem anaglyph

weak burrow
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I doubt anything can reach ante 400

lime inlet
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it might be possible

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i mean we have square mult

weak burrow
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The scaling goes crazy

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Assuming normal jokers I doubt it

uncut nymph
uncut nymph
lime inlet
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we also have the amazing google play card

fickle shadow
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Joker that exponentially gains xmult up to 10 the closer the game is to running at 1fps

weak burrow
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So just limit your fps and stonks

lime inlet
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i have one question tho

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why is google play card, the joker that can give e100 mult, a rare

weak burrow
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Maybe cuz of the chance

lime inlet
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fair

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1 in 10 is impossible these days

weak burrow
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Wheel is laughing

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1 in 4 and you still don't hit it

lime inlet
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wheel is 1 in 4//

weak burrow
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Make it a secret 1 in 100

lime inlet
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plot twist: google play card can't appear in shop

weak burrow
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Lmao

fickle shadow
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A joker that gains mult on wheel failures

lime inlet
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too free

weak burrow
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Real

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I would never lose in that case

lime inlet
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just thought of an idea that makes failing wheel even more broken

weak burrow
lime inlet
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Defectum(Failure)

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hold up i gotta format this

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this is kinda hard to describe without making a paragraph or confusing the player

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When a listed probability triggers, this Joker gains 1X for the denominator of the probability

uncut nymph
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so 5/6 chance he gains 6xmult

weak burrow
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So when I hit a 1 in 4 I get x4?

lime inlet
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yup

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gamble

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gamble

uncut nymph
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lucky card would be op with this

lime inlet
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gamble

fickle shadow
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Jokers that add xmult based on how quickly/long it takes to reach the end of counting every card and joker effect

weak burrow
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Lucky card abuse xd

uncut nymph
lime inlet
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latin name means exotic

fickle shadow
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Damn with the run I had the other day I'd never have finished playing

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Most of my deck turned to lucky cards, I had oops all sixes and three Heart Paladins from Fusion Jokers, which meant every card was getting tapped six times each

lime inlet
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what about a joker that sets the boss blind to 125% of your highest scoring hand

fickle shadow
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Sounds more like a boss blind

wary badger
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like the calculated score of a hand you played? or of the default ones in your run info

lime inlet
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it'd be a very easy one

wary badger
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that would be hard

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well

lime inlet
wary badger
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late game

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lots of jokers have rng, like bloodstone and such

lime inlet
lime inlet
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All of my current Joker ideas that haven't been implemented yet:


Compound Interest: When $ is greater than $100, gain 15% of total $ every ante. Percentage increases by 5% per consecutive payout

[Unnamed]: When Blind is selected, turn into a random Joker matching the highest rarity of owned Jokers```
native lotus
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Didn’t somebody suggest the unnamed one already?

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I swear I saw it somewhere

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long joker: +5 mult for each hand remaining, common

silver cobalt
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Rick Astley: never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down (when scored, rickrolls you)

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Make it a legendary or exotic so you will cry when you get it

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Prob legendary because those are real people

restive narwhal
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General Sales Tax (Like General as in Army): all jokers you have not purchased before in a run are instantly purchased for free (if you have space), passive effect of Showman

clear hare
native lotus
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Well damn

clear hare
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yep, Graffiti

clear hare
silver cobalt
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I think it would be funnier if it did nothing tho except open the browser window when you play a hand

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Unbalanced can also mean really underpowered

clear hare
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ppl would just sell it

silver cobalt
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It would make people angy

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It could also always be eternal too

clear hare
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Maybe it could do that and just replace the game music with Never Gonna Give You Up

clear hare
silver cobalt
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And also there could be a challenge where you start with eternal rick astley

fickle shadow
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Advert popup you have to close inside of the game like the advert nuisance in FNAF the restaurant management one

silver cobalt
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I wish i could add it to the sheet

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Purgare (Exotic) - When sold, destroy every card in your deck except for the selected cards

native lotus
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ok so im thinking of doing some voucher sprites

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and

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the top of the voucher part has some corresponding colour

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so

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i think it would work the top part was the main colour of the voucher

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like red for this and yellow for the tarot acclimator etc

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also the tier 3 vouchers can be multilayered but idk how that will work and if it would even fit :P

lime inlet
native lotus
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ah alrighty

lime inlet
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just realize defectum isn't a great name for this idea

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how tf is success the only antonym of failure

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it literally doesn't translate to anything different in latin

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does Felis(trigger) work then?

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The Dice(might be jank af):
1 in 2 chance to win blind per hand played
Each consecutive failure doubles the chance to win

native lotus
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i think i did well on this one

lime inlet
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Stock

native lotus
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how in the flippity flop do you make letters this beeg

lime inlet
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copy my text and you'll see(that's how i learned)

native lotus
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Stock

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did not work

lime inlet
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i mean right click(if on pc) and you'll see copy text

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then you paste the text to see what character i used

native lotus
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ok i see

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interesting

lime inlet
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noice

fickle shadow
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Going to end up with a recursive voucher inside voucher

native lotus
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ok i need to see something, either seprite bugged or it bugged

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ok aseprite bugged

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ok so

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can we replace the gray stake with
celadon stake?

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its like this colour

lime inlet
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gray stake is an actual poker chip thing so nah

native lotus
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awh

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fair

clear hare
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We can do celadon stake for one of the others

native lotus
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well i mean i did the first 7 already so were chillin

lime inlet
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what if it had a logo on the chip

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that'd be cool

clear hare
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m

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Silver should be pretty shiny like gold stake btw

lime inlet
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also are my joker ideas valid

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just wondering

clear hare
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Yes

lime inlet
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thank

native lotus
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dis better?

clear hare
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I want it to be different-looking from gray but I think this is good enough

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I’m going to start trying to add stakes since there’s not really any “more stakes” mods

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And then I’m going to try and add a way to dynamically enable and disable parts of the mod for streamers who just want the harder stakes

native lotus
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ok so should i give the diamond stake some sort design or something?

weak burrow
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There was an idea which was really good but not a mod

native lotus
clear hare
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Not yet

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32x32 pixels, go wild

weak burrow
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Just the Cryptid spectral best idea

native lotus
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so the logo could just be a key ig?

weak burrow
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Does anyone have an image of it btw?

clear hare
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Also I realized that gold stake uses a shader so I can do that for the metals

native lotus
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thank fuck

clear hare
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There’s also no stake API yet so I’m on my own here :)

native lotus
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i wish you luck

lime inlet
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can't wait for BU to attempt Plat Stake

weak burrow
native lotus
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just wanted to confirm, dis looks fine?

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wait nvm i have an idea

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just the red for the pop of colour

lime inlet
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Teleporter Deck:
After Boss Blind is defeated, teleport to a random ante between the past and upcoming 4 antes

cold sandal
cold sandal
clear hare
lime inlet
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lolo

clear hare
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trying to get more than 8 stakes to appear right now

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I had to delete gold stake for this to show up

weak burrow
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Also math I have an idea I wanted for a while, one of the old ideas I had

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Unbreakable glass cards

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Idk how the joker would be called but it should be added

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Back in the days of the poly glass deck

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Remember that?

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I remember suggesting that to steamo

lime inlet
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Duplicate:
Whenever a playing card is destroyed, create 2 copies of the destroyed playing card

weak burrow
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That could be an idea but I just want a simpler idea that wouldn't fill the deck

cold sandal
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Imagine getting that in the fragile challenge

weak burrow
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Idk I'll have to think of a name

lime inlet
cold sandal
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But better

lime inlet
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Plat Stake with Chaotic Deck would be funny

cold sandal
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Oh golly gee

native lotus
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thats all of them

cold sandal
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Nice

lime inlet
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dang i can barely see the key

native lotus
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i mean its blurred due to discord having a stroke

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its more visible normaly

lime inlet
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discord being discord

clear hare
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ok I found out where it is hardcoded

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9 stakes now

lime inlet
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m

lime inlet
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hows the stakes coming along @clear hare

clear hare
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finishing up the API

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I have to go in 15 mins so then I'll work on it later

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SMODS.Stake({
    name = "Gold Chip",
    key = "stake_gold",
  omit_prefix = true,
    pos = {x = 2, y = 1},
  modifiers = function()
    G.GAME.modifiers.enable_rentals_in_shop = true
  end,
    loc_txt = {}
}):register()
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still have to add a way to set up the colors and toggle which stakes are shiny

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finished it I think

native lotus
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so do we have all 24 stakes in?

clear hare
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No

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I’m making the stake API better now

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So different mods can have different stake progressions while being loaded at once

native lotus
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woag

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who would have thought that just making a silly little unballanced mod would lead to the birth of a stake api

clear hare
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yep

weak burrow
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to think it all started by me wanting to combine 2 jokers into 1 for 5 joker inf

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And ended up bugging math for this a little too much

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And with the other mods I also had loaded

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Let's say dagonet and this didn't go so well together

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Math remembers that

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And in the end the final version ended up being weaker than what I wanted by 0.5 mult

native lotus
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I just realized I need to make stickers of every single new stake 💀

weak burrow
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Aren't they just the same but with no depth?

native lotus
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Yep, but it was like half an hr of recolouring for the stakes

clear hare
native lotus
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huh, neat

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what about this thing doe?

clear hare
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that works already

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it might go off-screen though

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with 32 stakes

native lotus
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Wait huh 32???

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Also just an arrow that shows the upper 8 instead of the base 8 would work

clear hare
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I'll probably get to that later as well lmao

woeful tapir
clear hare
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petition to rename Maroon Stake to Crimson Stake

native lotus
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Bruh

clear hare
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alr it has passed

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Crimson Stake is now Maroon Stake

native lotus
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deck of envy :3

native lotus
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deck of greed

lime inlet
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i thought it was Devil's Deck lmao

native lotus
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im going down the sin decks rn

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Beelzebub... fucking lovely ugh................... how do i even

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yeah i don't think im doing this one today

clear hare
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temporary icon for Cryptid

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going to work on stakes for a bit now

cold sandal
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Hear me out

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Legendary joker for everyone who contributed to the mod

weak burrow
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That would make math never be able to finish the mod, unless you don't consider idea suggestions

clear hare
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lmao

weak burrow
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Is there more ante scaling besides purple?

vestal seal
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maybe cryptid icon could be a scaled down version of the cryptid in the spectral

clear hare
#

chat can you see all the stake restrictions?

clear hare
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that's too cruel honestly, the gimmicky ones are funnier

weak burrow
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I think you gotta add a 3rd ante scaling stake somewhere

vestal seal
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oh god not vouchers restocking every $2 antes

clear hare
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fixed that btw

woeful tapir
vestal seal
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also whats the resolution for the mod icon

clear hare
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and brown stake going off screen

clear hare
weak burrow
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Make it so crimson stake adds a third ante scaling

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What's the scaling between the 2 existing ones?

clear hare
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it's in the code

weak burrow
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The increase, is it by a consistent percentage or not?

clear hare
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which idea should be scrapped for more ante scaling?

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(the order can be changed around)

weak burrow
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Banana thing imo

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Thats just dumb

clear hare
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it's not dumb

lime inlet
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Bronze imo

clear hare
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it's like perishable but luck

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I think bronze and topaz are the weakest ones here

weak burrow
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Imo that's the one that has to go

cold sandal
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imo cyan is kinda eh

weak burrow
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If my blueprint turns to banana I'm raising hands

cold sandal
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Gotta love getting banana sticker Maximized on a baron mime build

lime inlet
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what if topaz changes to
Jokers can gain stickers after purchase

weak burrow
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It just doesn't fit the game

lime inlet
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cause why not

lime inlet
weak burrow
#

Some of them definitely do more than that

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That's for sure

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After banana I think cyan has to go

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But replace banana with ante scaling and problem solved

clear hare
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I hear y'all, I'll do that

weak burrow
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Wait yellow is ante scaling letsgo

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I say call it crimson in the name of crimson

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Hidden Easter egg

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Now for how much scaling, what's the average increase for all 10 antes?

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I say we make it a bit harder than the average amount

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Still gotta be hard but there's still the previous stakes

cold sandal
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If theres another Score Scaling increase it should be 9th imo

weak burrow
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I mean I think it can be moved to 9 it makes sense

cold sandal
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That'd make the third, sixth, and ninth stakes the scaling stuff

lime inlet
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i have an actually decent change to cyan stake
Start with $2

cold sandal
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counting by 3s

clear hare
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start with $0 :O

weak burrow
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Eco would tank if you do that

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Even 2 is a big tank

clear hare
lime inlet
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nah we gotta make the change seem not that bad until you go in debt cause everything is rental

cold sandal
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ykw

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we might

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need more stakes

weak burrow
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Who needs interest debt is the way to go

clear hare
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stake 32 when

lime inlet
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that means 2 more ante scaling stakes

cold sandal
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Make every third stake scale scoring\

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And we can bring banana back

clear hare
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i figured out how we're going to fit more stakes in the menu bar

cold sandal
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squish the stakes

lime inlet
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nice

cold sandal
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The steak stake

weak burrow
#

I think this mod should come with like an interface for picking and choosing stakes, like each modifier becoming points maybe

cold sandal
weak burrow
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I saw a suggestion for that with even a mock up interface but I lost it a while ago

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The more modifiers you choose the more points you get and the higher stake you get

clear hare
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the point is they just get harder until it's ridiculous

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I also feel like with game balance more than 1 or 2 extra scaling stakes might just get unfun

weak burrow
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I mean if this gets integrated into house rules that might also be fine I guess

weak burrow
clear hare
#

true

lime inlet
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Felis(Trigger): When a listed probability triggers, this Joker gains Xmult equal to the probability's denominator
just bumping this up

weak burrow
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Imagine a lucky card triggering for the money

clear hare
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added

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imagine oops all 6s with this

lime inlet
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reworded it a bit

clear hare
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This Joker gains 1X Mult for the denominator of each listed probability trigerred

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that's the reword I used

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*X1

weak burrow
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Also I need a name for a rare joker to make glass unbreakable

cold sandal
weak burrow
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Any ideas?

clear hare
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I'm down to go for stake 32

weak burrow
#

100 stakes or bust

lime inlet
#

perma boss blind effects

clear hare
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I'm going to add the metadata for the next 8 stakes while y'all cook

cold sandal
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We already have a "Final Boss Blinds can appear after Ante 4"

vestal seal
#

how's this for a quick logo mockup

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upscaled

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(i'll fix the bit on the right)

clear hare
#

nice

cold sandal
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We need a "Final Boss Blinds can appear anytime except for the first ante"

vestal seal
#

it's really annoying that one of the grays used in spectrals is the exact same as the aseprite background

weak burrow
#

I asked chatgpt for some help which one yall think is the best

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  1. Crystal Ward
  2. Ethereal Shield
  3. Vitreous Barrier
  4. Shatterguard Charm
  5. Quartz Resilience
  6. Fragile Immunity
  7. Glassbane Aura
  8. Luminous Fortification
  9. Prism Protection
  10. Fragility Cloak
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I'm thinking 4

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Idk

vestal seal
vestal seal
weak burrow
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Most of them suck but I think 4 is nice

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Another one I saw was crystal armor

clear hare
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sapphire stake rework: 25% of money will be taken after every ante

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because who is going to reach $100 in a normal run on sapphire stake

weak burrow
#

I feel like there should still be a limit

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Too much stuff going on eco

clear hare
#

up to $20?

weak burrow
#

So like once you do manage to get a good eco going just to end up with 25% being taken doesn't sound fun

clear hare
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or $10-15

weak burrow
#

I think even 10$ every round is harsh enough

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15 could work

clear hare
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I'll go with 10 for now

cold sandal
#

Here are some stakes

Banana Stickers can now appear on Jokers
-1 Joker Slot
Final Boss Blinds can appear on any ante except for the first
Increased Ante Scaling
Blinds can't be skipped
Food Jokers and Banana Stickers are 2x more likely to appear
xMult Jokers give the sqrt of their Mult
Tarots And Spectrals target 1 less card each (Minimum of 1)

weak burrow
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In any case you don't want to end up going too hard with too many things on eco since you'll just end up with unplayable stakes

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Don't forget you have 32 stakes

clear hare
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final boss of balatro

weak burrow
clear hare
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[WIP/Concepting] - Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod

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(clearly much more than Jokers now)

weak burrow
#

I feel like 8 is the perfect starting amount and I think reducing it with no benefit is just removing a fun factor

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7 is too hard and 9 is too easy

rigid obsidian
#

is the art done?

clear hare
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I like -1 Joker Slot for stake 28, we need something brutal for stake 32

clear hare
weak burrow
#

-1 joker slot is even more brutal

clear hare
clear hare
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*stake

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I keep on saying ante lmao

weak burrow
#

I mean maybe

rigid obsidian
cold sandal
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Updated some of the stakes

Banana Stickers can now appear on Jokers
-1 Joker Slot
Final Boss Blinds can appear on any ante except for the first
Increased Ante Scaling
Blinds can't be skipped
Food Jokers and Banana Stickers are 2x more likely to appear
xMult Jokers give the 1.5th root of their Mult
Tarots And Spectrals target 1 less card each (Minimum of 1)

clear hare
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two of the deck ofs I didn't add because the art was WIP

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but the rest are good

weak burrow
#

The tarot and spectral thing sounds fun considering it doesn't change much

clear hare
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I say we keep that

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Blinds can't be skipped just removes tags from the game so it's not that good

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I have a fun idea

weak burrow
#

I think rewards being changed is a better idea

clear hare
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When blind selected, add one random card to deck

cold sandal
#

I remembered about the Conspiracy, Superstition, and Urban Legend vouchers for the last one

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just did the opposite

clear hare
#

a build

weak burrow
clear hare
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there's Hologram but even then, it doesn't scale fast enough

cold sandal
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Its even worse considering Hanged Man will only be able to remove 1 card at a time

weak burrow
#

Nah ya gotta add that I love that idea

rigid obsidian
#

can one of the stakes be "deck upsides are halved"?

cold sandal
weak burrow
#

Make it counter weighted so it can't be a card you have alot of

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So you won't get another king for example

vestal seal
clear hare
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my chips and mult boutta be half balanced

weak burrow
#

Imagine

rigid obsidian
cold sandal
clear hare
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I like -1 joker slot

rigid obsidian
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-1 joker slot is a good one

cold sandal
#

Imagine that on Painted Deck

weak burrow
#

Problem is it's gonna be hard to quantify

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I agree with math

rigid obsidian
#

i can quantify

clear hare
#

here's what I have on the doc

weak burrow
#

There are things that don't make sense being halved

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Like blue deck

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Giving you 0.5 hands

rigid obsidian
#

yes that makes sense

cold sandal
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We could do something like

rigid obsidian
clear hare
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I could see it being done but it would also be a hassle to hardcode like 50 different half-decks

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when there's already so many deck ideas here

cold sandal
clear hare
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sure

weak burrow
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In the end I think we can find better ideas

clear hare
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we can keep it for now

weak burrow
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So it's not worth to think about it too much

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Atleast imo

cold sandal
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I kinda wanna do something with this:
xMult Jokers give the 1.5th root of their Mult

clear hare
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Scaling Jokers scale 25% slower

weak burrow
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I think it could work with some jokers

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Or that

clear hare
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Joker effects are 25% worse

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(for ones with numerical values)

rigid obsidian
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i should do art now

clear hare
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let me add the multistock voucher art to the doc before I forget

cold sandal
weak burrow
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I feel like we don't need to nerf every joker

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Keep it on xmult

clear hare
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yeah but this is stake 31

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we can make it cruel

weak burrow
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Lmao

clear hare
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I think I saved the cruelest for the final four

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now we need stake names

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I kinda did like normal colors for 9-16 and precious gems for 17-24

rigid obsidian
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can the last stake be the unused joker stake?

weak burrow
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Move boss rush 1 down imo

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That's defo worse

clear hare
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it only affects 3 antes though

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because we already have ante 5+

cold sandal
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Yeah stake 12

clear hare
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in silver stake

weak burrow
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Then remove the ante 4 boss stake

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Make it this

clear hare
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I think it's fine to buff it

weak burrow
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I think you can reuse that stake for something else

clear hare
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because seeing a final boss in early antes is so different

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we can again redo silver stake later

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oh I have a cruel idea

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Cards have a small chance to be drawn face down

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(something like 1 in 25 idk)

weak burrow
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Eh that's not too cruel then

clear hare
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yeah but if you rely on the same cards each round it can be brutal

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and the odds can be twaked

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we can probably replace silver stake with that

weak burrow
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Depending on the odds it can be cruel

clear hare
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or stake 27

weak burrow
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What's 27

clear hare
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half deck effects

weak burrow
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Ah

clear hare
weak burrow
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I can see the doc but I'm on phone

clear hare
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im trying to think of a good naming scheme for the final stakes

weak burrow
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And it's effort

clear hare
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we could do 7 sins again lmao

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I think I'll go with replacing silver stake for now

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the only thing I can really think of is using more vague words to describe the stakes and making the sprite like multicolored

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things like Nebulous Stake and Gradient Stake

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but I don't have the brainpower to come up with 8 of those rn

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gn

cold sandal
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Opal stake

rigid obsidian
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white hole art