#Consumable Card in Deck (CCD)

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feral lantern
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cause then I could do the original consumable in deck glitch and buy voucher

vague bough
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when you open a booster pack is there a way for you to select the cards?

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for me the cards in my hand are in the way from selecting

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i can only skip the booster

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and skipping the booster puts my hand back in my deck

feral lantern
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I think I had the same situation?

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idk

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btw we broke 1k messages in this thread

feral lantern
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XD it says saved by mr bones if cash out after you win

vague bough
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i skipped the winning ante so now im on ante 9/8 with round 6 lol

feral lantern
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LOL

vague bough
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thats enough for today going to go eat dinner gl

feral lantern
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gn

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I have all day tmr except for when I have church and stuff

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👀 we can combine bosses maybe

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rip didnt work

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oh cvrud I got the Neinlove glitch

ancient kiln
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how do u do this glitch

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like I saw the video but I still don't understand

feral lantern
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to get the consumables in your deck you need to:
have a consumable (some tarots/spectrals crash so I normally use planets) and have a hand that is 1 card win be prepared

ancient kiln
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which ones crash

feral lantern
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mainly the ones where you have to click cards to activate

ancient kiln
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understandable

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it's trying to do something to a selected card but there isn't any

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so that's it or do I also have to do the reload thing

feral lantern
ancient kiln
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ok

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so you click the consumable while it's loading and play it

feral lantern
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You click a card while loading in that is in your hand

ancient kiln
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oh

feral lantern
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then play it and the play is delade and allows you to use the consumable

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this makes the game think you are playing the consumable and puts it into deck

ancient kiln
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I'm gonna try this now

feral lantern
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gl

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once you get it its easier to understand how to reproduce

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OH IMPORTANT, DO THIS AT 0.5X speed

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this also allows you to do a bunch of other jusk by discarding the card instead of using a consumable and stuff

ancient kiln
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bruh it happened on the second restart but I messed up

feral lantern
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Just keep trying

ancient kiln
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I got it but I was too slow :(

feral lantern
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rip

ancient kiln
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oops accidentally hit new run instead of continue run

feral lantern
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RIP

ancient kiln
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guess I'll just get it set up again then

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alright I got it set up again, if I did my maths right

feral lantern
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I just realized you dont have to win with the hand

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thats a different bug

ancient kiln
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missed the screenshot but I got hex in my deck now

feral lantern
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pog

ancient kiln
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wait hang on no I didn't

feral lantern
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Now playing it and it scoring crashes, and clicking 4 cards and it crashes

feral lantern
ancient kiln
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thank god I always have game recording on

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hmm...

feral lantern
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go out and in

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should fix

ancient kiln
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yep, instant crash

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which ones do you know for sure don't crash?

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when played after it enters the deck

feral lantern
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you cant play them

ancient kiln
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what

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so what's the point in putting them in your deck if there's no practical purpose

feral lantern
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you can repeat the bug to use it more times

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memes

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you can use death/cryptid on it

ancient kiln
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but what's the point if playing it crashes the game

feral lantern
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you cant play it

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I never said there was an upside to playing it

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If you do this but instead of using a consumable discard the card you can kinda dupe it

ancient kiln
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I was hoping that maybe it'd be used as if you clicked "Use" when played

feral lantern
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you can styill use them but sadly no

feral lantern
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MathIsFun_ can you explain why buying a voucher while a hand is playing just waits for the hand tofinish

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so does leaving shop and buyingpacks iirc

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It just all feels weird how some things delayand stuff

ancient kiln
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after the crash, I noticed that there was a "Use" button underneath the Hex in my hand, so I'm gonna try to make use of that

feral lantern
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gl

ancient kiln
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should I make troubadour my second eternal joker or is that a dumb idea

feral lantern
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idk

ancient kiln
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I'll buy it

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oh it already appeared

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yep, that is a use button

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and troubadour is now polychrome

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and the hex in my deck is now gone

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hey

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you said it was pointless putting consumables in your deck

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but I just proved you wrong!

patent perch
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So real

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Isn’t flooding Local with crash reports a useful application?

feral lantern
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I turn mine off

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local would have like 100+ crashes from me at minimum

patent perch
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They’re all nil so it should be fine

feral lantern
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not all

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but mostly yeah

patent perch
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When using death to turn a normal card into a consumable, could that bugged card be debuffed by a boss, then played without crashing?

feral lantern
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idk

ancient kiln
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I've tried multiple times but I can't seem to get it to work with The Fool

patent perch
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Probably wouldn’t result in anything too helpful.

ancient kiln
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like even when I get the glitch working

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Use shows up grey

feral lantern
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well do you have anything the fool can copy?

ancient kiln
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The Wheel Of Fortune

feral lantern
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idk then

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I didnt test summoning tarots

patent perch
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Priestess works fine

feral lantern
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10/10 spelling

ancient kiln
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maybe it just doesn't work with the fool?

patent perch
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I don’t see a reason why it shouldn’t

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That’s weird

ancient kiln
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lmao I just checked what the wheel of fortune does and it makes scholar polychrome lmao

patent perch
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Let me try with fool

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got it

ancient kiln
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cool

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so it's just my game

patent perch
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took me a few tries though

ancient kiln
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alright ima try it with mars now

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nope it just seems to not work for me anymore

patent perch
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hmm

ancient kiln
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maybe it just only works once per run?

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unless u have gotten it to work more than once?

patent perch
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def not true, I've glitched 2 cards in a single blind several times

ancient kiln
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ok but what about after clicking Use on one of them

patent perch
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wdym

ancient kiln
patent perch
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using an in hand consumable? haven't glitched another card in after using an in hand

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well, I just glitched the 'in-hand' fool into the deck again

lean laurel
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m

ancient kiln
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I'm doing it on purple stake

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maybe that has something to do with it somehow

patent perch
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@feral lantern four fingers does indeed crash the game with a 3 card + tarot hand

lean laurel
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i love double payout glitch

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useful af

ancient kiln
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how does that one work

lean laurel
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luckily you don't need any items for this

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do the slow mo hand thing then immediately after you press play hand select a card then discard(note you can't play a 5 card hand otherwise you can't discard anything) then while the hand is playing select the cards then play hand again

patent perch
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brief discussion of four fingers with this glitch

lean laurel
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you need at least 2 hands and 1 discard for this

feral lantern
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Im not use to that

ancient kiln
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what happens when u do that

lean laurel
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a payout begins when the 2nd glitched hand is over

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then when you go in shop a 2nd one appears

patent perch
lean laurel
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double mony

patent perch
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four fingers from judgement if you want to look into it more

lean laurel
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but here's the weird part about the glitch

patent perch
lean laurel
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im only guessing but if you hold down the cash out button for like a couple milliseconds later it crashes

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and sometimes it is inconsistent bla bla bla

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i just got it to work lmao

feral lantern
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basically just use an autoclicker like me and your fine

lean laurel
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yea

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except when that doesn't work either

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:)

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oh yea does your autoclicker repeat

feral lantern
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Im more interested in getting vouchers as playingcards

lean laurel
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cause i just do a 1 sec autoclicker

feral lantern
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I have a 1 ms repeat autoclicker

ancient kiln
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I saw that save editing is possible

lean laurel
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dam

ancient kiln
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I wonder if we can do quicker testing on what happens when x card is in deck by just editing the save file

lean laurel
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im still pissed i crashed when i had neg to the moon so i could see how much i could get

feral lantern
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inf hand size

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It might not stack now that I think about it... we will see

lean laurel
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probably not stack

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due to the whole getting vouchers in challenges when you already have them

feral lantern
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Cause rich get rixher you can get the interest voucher but it brings you down to the voucher and doesnt add on

lean laurel
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fair

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but how do you do the voucher thing

feral lantern
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we havent gotten it

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you need to play a hand and vuy a voucher at same time

ancient kiln
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can't you do save editing to see what happens if you did even if we don't know how to do it without cheating

feral lantern
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We would need mathisfun and they are busy

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Im to lazy to learn

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me when inf hone

ancient kiln
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man I love having to close and reopen the game because the background behind my hand didn't go away when the round ended

lean laurel
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i just crashed :)

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with autoclicker

ancient kiln
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damn

lean laurel
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i know it's not timing based

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since i literally somehow spammed almost the first frame it was available

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i think some seeds are more hostile to double payout than others

feral lantern
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enemui did you see the glitch to get cash out in middle of round

lean laurel
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in the middle?

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lmao

feral lantern
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like have it as an option

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basically do ante skip glitch on any fight, and as cards go back into deck click cash out

lean laurel
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ah

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lol

feral lantern
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any sooner crash any later crash

lean laurel
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wait can't i just combine this with double payout

feral lantern
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Ig

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idk fully

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I was fully honing in on buying stuff from shop mid round

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gl with results, I need sleep

lean laurel
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lol

feral lantern
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it is officially midnight

patent perch
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🥳

feral lantern
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tge weekend feels so long and so short at the same time

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I didnt even get bored enough to work on my other project

patent perch
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6 card hand does not crash

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interestingly, I couldn't play temperance on a 2 or 3 card hand (tried like 15 times and missed the timing or it wouldn't work) yet I got it first try on a 5 card flush

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uh playing 6 cards actually discounted the flush since the 6th was a tarot

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holo Fortune teller at +8

lean laurel
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what hand was it

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high card?

patent perch
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High card

lean laurel
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k

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what if you try the double payout + CCD(what math was trying to do in that vid i thnk)

patent perch
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can't anymore, haven't been able to get a flush + CCD for about 15 minutes

lean laurel
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sad

feral lantern
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Ive hadexperiences with 6 card hands

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they arent really special unless you have splash

patent perch
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I mean, splash just crashes the game

feral lantern
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exactly

patent perch
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it would be nice to know exactly why a 5 card hand crashes, and a 4 card hand with four fingers crashes

feral lantern
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btw I got pic of what happens if play hand before you buy voucher

patent perch
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not really getting a lot of info from this

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other than the shop being expanded

feral lantern
feral lantern
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idk what jokers make the card take longer to go up are though

patent perch
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proc'ing Space Joker does

feral lantern
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Space joker is after the card is up

patent perch
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ah, that's what you mean

feral lantern
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yeahhh...

patent perch
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uh, I don't know if there even are any that do

feral lantern
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then maybe we need smthin else

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like doing ccd without savescumming and instead use weird timing

patent perch
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knowing more about how the glitch works in the first place would be fantastic

feral lantern
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it works because the cards you play as the you use the consumable combine and it thinks the consumable is a playing card

patent perch
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I understand that part, but more about how we can play a consumable along side a hand. What about spamming continues allows us to select cards early?

feral lantern
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thats fair ig

patent perch
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another thing, why can we queue a discard but not another hand when initialising CCD

feral lantern
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queue?

patent perch
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when you play a hand, then glitch a consumable into it, you can select cards to discard

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why won't the game allow us to play that hand instead?

feral lantern
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maybe the consumable is like, using that hand still

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or it "uses" that hand

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idk, I normally go to math for game code specifics but they have been busy

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Another thing to question, if you do the bug that softlocks you from playing cards and oopen a pack, the card scoots over like it would if you were playing multiple cards

feral lantern
patent perch
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I've managed to get a 6 card hand once and never again

vague bough
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shadow any luck making your seeds seeded again?

feral lantern
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Thats another thing we have no clue why it happens but happens

vague bough
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well it also means that if you get a really good "unseeded" run then people cant really copy it since your seed will be different than theirs

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which seems like an issue

feral lantern
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yeah

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which is why we need to solve it

feral lantern
feral lantern
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Neinlove do you have the stuntman seed?

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found it

feral lantern
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I dont think the stuntman seed has the hook

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and I wanna test the hook

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because the card doesnt go up while the hood discards

feral lantern
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UIZ2J2BI

  1. 1st shop has banner
  2. do ante skip glitch but click first cash out as cards are going back into deck
  3. go to big blind
  4. then play a hand on hook and click cash out as fast as you can
  5. try and buy a voucher/pack
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Im hoping the hook discard has enough delay that you can buy voucher but it might be to short

lean laurel
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wait in 2. do you mean the cash out background thing

feral lantern
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yeah

lean laurel
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k

feral lantern
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fixed wording

feral lantern
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basically 2 you want it to be like this (of course with banner and stuff)

lean laurel
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so double payout without clicking the 2nd payout?

feral lantern
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ig?

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idk

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we have so many different glitches and names

lean laurel
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i just call the glitch where you get 2 payouts double payout

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and the one that skips an ante the ante skip

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or CCD if it relates to the consumable

feral lantern
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yeah

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I think I was mistaking double payout for a different double pay out

lean laurel
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LMAO I TRIGGERED A GAME OVER IN THE FIRST HAND

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I CLICKED CASH OUT MID SCORING

analog warren
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What the fuck

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The legendary lose

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Why is the small blind text bg red

lean laurel
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idk

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i crashed when i tried to do it again

feral lantern
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yeah I did that

lean laurel
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but i saw the game over again

feral lantern
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I got this yesterday

analog warren
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So just to be clear, ww4 doesn't exist right-

feral lantern
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I mean if you think about it CCD is kinda WW4

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also we can dupe money at this point

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but I dont think WWIV exists yet

analog warren
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No joker dupe

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Or, jupe

feral lantern
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that was ww3

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CCD is WW3 with consumables

analog warren
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Yeah fair enough

lean laurel
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HUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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I DON'T HAVE MR BONES

analog warren
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Uh oh

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Ante 39 without cryptic perkeo when

feral lantern
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I did that to

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Thats what happens if you cash out after scoring

analog warren
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Smh whenever I can imma try and do some touchscreen stuff with this bug

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What happens if I use and play a planet card

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At the same time

feral lantern
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crash probably

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cause you are playing a nil card (thats what we are calling consumables in hand)

analog warren
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Makes sense

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Surely there's some way to infinitely scale a hand

feral lantern
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well you can redo the glitch with the consumable in the hand

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also you can cryptid them

lean laurel
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um you can apparently skip blinds now

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like in round

feral lantern
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wait

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can you play a hand and skip to gain a pack?

lean laurel
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idk

feral lantern
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that might allow the pack to be in hand 👀

lean laurel
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but i skipped a pack and i skipped blind

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:)

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can you give me a seed with the last ante

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but not the final boss

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*save

feral lantern
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I dont have one

lean laurel
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oh well ill just grind rich get richer

feral lantern
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but I have an easy plasma seed

lean laurel
feral lantern
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11114HZK

lean laurel
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thank

feral lantern
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2nd ante first shop stuntman

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3rd ante bp

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bull and icecream later on

lean laurel
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im gonna try skipping first ante

feral lantern
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probably

feral lantern
lean laurel
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:)

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wait now i can't skip

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this bug is weird(no duH)

feral lantern
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ss and file?

lean laurel
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?

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im just testing your seed lol

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idk what im doing

feral lantern
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lol

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Im almost done with my aliensrock vid

lean laurel
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im trying to find out if you can modify the cards through tarot packs

feral lantern
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then Ill try and help

lean laurel
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k

feral lantern
lean laurel
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btw burnt joker can be double with this

feral lantern
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rlly?

lean laurel
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i love this game

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i level up +6 times per round

analog warren
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nice face downie

feral lantern
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Wait ww3 + that enemui....

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we can get 10 lvls per round

lean laurel
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I JUST GOT OOPS ALL 6S LMAO

feral lantern
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XD

lean laurel
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your seed is crazy

analog warren
lean laurel
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wtf

feral lantern
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not my seed

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Neinlove gave it to me

lean laurel
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neinlove's seed is crazy

feral lantern
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and I think math gave it to them

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I cant skip because of the grey card thingy

lean laurel
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lol

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CAVENDISH

vague bough
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its the seed the wr speedrun uses

feral lantern
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Im at 480k but havent played a hand lol

lean laurel
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what

lean laurel
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flames so bright you can't even see the damn level

feral lantern
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hold the phone

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I might have inf ante/rounds

lean laurel
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huh

feral lantern
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no wait

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hmmm

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I have 2x rounds

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not inf

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Ive used tower like 3 times and havent used a single death LOL

lean laurel
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lmao

vague bough
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ya i never figured out how/why the card dupe happened or how to use it to our advantage

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now that i think about it, that might be why our seeds are getting messed up

lean laurel
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i have 123 cards in my deck lmao

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it just showed up one day

vague bough
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each time you play a hand while discarding you dupe cards but as far as which ones you dupe idk

feral lantern
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Ik how

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its cause you are playing and discarding the card, so the game dupes that card so both states can be true

vague bough
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but when i was doing it a couple days ago the cards i was playing werent the ones being duped

feral lantern
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Idk then

lean laurel
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oko but which ones

vague bough
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like i dont think youre playing the 8 of hearts every round right?

feral lantern
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Idk

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I was just playing 8s and discarding them

lean laurel
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this is my limit lmao

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i just reset lmao

vague bough
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well if you figure it out we can go inf faster than ever before

lean laurel
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ikr

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btw this also means perkeo has X2 efficiency

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sososososososososo

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best part about this bug
any "beginning of round" and "end of round" jokers are retriggered :)

feral lantern
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defeated :kek:

lean laurel
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lool

vague bough
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pretty sure level 150 hand is wr

feral lantern
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we can totally beat that

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cause we can WW3 the burnt jokers to get 5 of them, do enemui double burnt joker activation for 10 lvls a round

vague bough
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we could probably beat every wr for money, hands, rounds, etc

feral lantern
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yeah

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well I beat least round wr

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current

vague bough
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are the buttons greyed out in the shop?

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wait nvm you would have went through it already

feral lantern
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idk

feral lantern
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Idk what Im even doing at this point

analog warren
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all bosses in balatro at once when

feral lantern
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I have 1 stone card in my deck yet I drew 5 of them...

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My brain

feral lantern
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I only drew 3 cards cause of serpent XD

vague bough
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hows your score getting so high so early

feral lantern
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look at my jokers bud

feral lantern
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softlocked myself 🫡

lean laurel
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m

vague bough
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ya whenever you get the upside down card in the middle of the screen its over 😦

lean laurel
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me seeing a card in the middle of my screen for the 1000th reset
me seeing a card in the middle of my screen for the 1000th crash

vague bough
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having basically 1 round per ante up to 17 is pretty good though

lean laurel
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I think we should call the general glitch the "Special Hand" glitch since it all revolves around playing a special type of hand

lean laurel
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The leftmost card is the card the triggers the card stats in deck

feral lantern
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yeah

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that happens sometimes

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I softlocked myself on my 95 9s run

lean laurel
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lol

feral lantern
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to bad no cloud 9

lean laurel
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bru i had such a good cloud nine run + to the moon

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then i crashed

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i swear to the moon is a curse

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anddddd i crashed again

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fuck

feral lantern
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dang

lean laurel
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i lost it dang it

feral lantern
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game isnt giving me seeing double for some reason?

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oh wait nvm you need to play them

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I forgor

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got it pog

vague bough
feral lantern
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your telling my that this is my deck and idol picks ace of spades?

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game plz

vague bough
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lucky deck, unlucky idol

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lol

feral lantern
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lol

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If only this worked with hologram

vague bough
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would probably work with blue joker

feral lantern
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it does

vague bough
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how much does stone joker give per stone card?

feral lantern
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25

vague bough
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thatd be way better then

feral lantern
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yeah

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to bad medusa challenge doesnt start with stone joker

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Wait... stell cards with steel joker

vague bough
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use the glitch to dupe 100 steel cards then use the glitch to draw more cards

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make the whole deck steel polychrome red seal kings balatrojoker

feral lantern
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I need dna and I need a red seal steel king

feral lantern
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I told skoottie Id like if they did a vid on CCD and they said they would love to 👀

plain geyser
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I feel like if Skoottie streams himself performing CCD it’ll be patched within a day

feral lantern
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I mean

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It needs to be patched

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  • we kinda exhausted it at this point
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all that would be left to do was win in 4 rounds and my cloud 9 idea

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with ww3 cload 9 and repeating duping 9s

feral lantern
plain geyser
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hmm maybe

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Feel like by the time I get to making one though it’ll already be patched

feral lantern
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fair

plain geyser
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The demonstration video is probably enough tbh, I think that’ll help people replicate it for the short duration before it gets patched

feral lantern
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Ill probably ping them when I get home from school

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so enemui and neinlove enjoy it while it lasts if you want

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I have to sleep though so gn

lean laurel
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m

lean laurel
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m

vague bough
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please get the unseeded seed glitch patched somehow lol

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i tried doing a fresh reinstall without steam cloud and its still broken

lean laurel
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lol

feral lantern
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lol

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once bug is patched and local is back we'll see

lean laurel
#

where is math 😱

analog warren
#

Uh oh

feral lantern
#

dw

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Im writing a google doc for the bug to explain the glitch to the best of my abilities

umbral umbra
#

Can you repro in the newest experimental branch?

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1.0.0m

feral lantern
#

Ill test

analog warren
feral lantern
#

lol

plain geyser
feral lantern
umbral umbra
#

🙂

lean laurel
umbral umbra
#

I realized there really wasn't a good reason to have a continue button during a run

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And it was causing issues

feral lantern
#

how long until that is the main version?

umbral umbra
#

Most of the changes are mac related so when those are validated I'll push

feral lantern
#

ok

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And I guess I should ask if its ok with you on if skootie creates a video on it if they so wish?

lean laurel
#

welp rip CCD

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at least i can finally focus on challenges and stuff

plain geyser
#

CCD 🪦

lean laurel
#

oh ye math i posted stuf in world record thread

plain geyser
#

I saw, just was rly busy last two days

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I’ll try to update the doc this evening if I remember

lean laurel
#

k

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i might change my personal challenge list

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cause i realized five card draw is way too easy

plain geyser
#

Tried the bug with continuing from the Main Menu and I can confirm that it is patched

umbral umbra
#

Thank you!

plain geyser
#

At least, with the method we’ve been using to trigger it

umbral umbra
#

I made another change in addition to removing the continue button so I think it should be good

plain geyser
#

With the bug, on every third load the game would let you play hands and discard before it was ready, but that now appears to not be the case

umbral umbra
#

Yeah there was a race condition I didn't catch for one of the input locks

plain geyser
#

I also find it impressive that the game’s code doesn’t immediately just implode when it finds you doing things it completely doesn’t expect

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Like using tarot cards on consumeables

umbral umbra
#

If I was better at OOP then it probably would explode lol

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Because right now a card is pretty much a card

vague bough
#

localthunk do you know why our seeded runs are no longer seeded?

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or how i might fix that

umbral umbra
#

It's on the list

plain geyser
#

I think something is causing their ipairs to break

edgy kayak
#

Also is anything written on 1.0.0m? I haven't seen anything

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I've seen local just type it here

umbral umbra
#

Mac takes precedent right now, most changes relate to the Mac port

plain geyser
#

It exists… that’s all we know

umbral umbra
edgy kayak
#

Didn't you just upgrade the engine?

umbral umbra
#

Love2D actually pushed a new release this weekend because of a bug in Balatro

edgy kayak
#

Oh nice

umbral umbra
#

a bug discovered via Balatro I should say

edgy kayak
umbral umbra
#

I didn't discover it but yeah, wasn't running on MacOS Big Sur at all

edgy kayak
#

mac pc big cringe

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Also for legal reasons that's a joke

umbral umbra
#

You're playing a game made on a mac, bucko

plain geyser
umbral umbra
#

143mailliw deserves the credit for finding that one

edgy kayak
feral lantern
plain geyser
#

That doc is private

feral lantern
#

LOL

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that wouldve been embarassing

sage karma
#

Does this work with any consumable?

feral lantern
#

most card selecting consumables crash

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no longer private

plain geyser
#

Doc looks good

feral lantern
#

nice

lean laurel
#

you should prob note in dupe cashout that a crash results in a softlocked and unplayable run

feral lantern
#

true

lean laurel
#

and that an autoclicker is reccomended as for some reason holding down the mouse for too long crashes

vague bough
#

if i cant click a card before the card burning up screen disappears i usually just reset to get more time to buy/sell stuff

lean laurel
#

can i edit the doc :)

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is there an explanation why holding it down for a millisecond too long crashes

feral lantern
#

sure

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give me a sec

vague bough
#

also you should mention that you can play/discard twice per "hand" since after the played cards go back to your deck you have a few frames where you can play again

feral lantern
lean laurel
#

ill message it

plain geyser
#

Do you know what you did before your cards became unseeded?

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That might also be important to point out

vague bough
#

uhhh this

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lol

feral lantern
lean laurel
#

i completely forgot that the cards "change cycles" after crashing and rebooting the seed

feral lantern
#

if anyone wants to edit doc dm me gmail

umbral umbra
#

Wait are all your runs unseeded?

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after doing this?

feral lantern
#

I believe so

#

Its not like unseeded as in shops are unseeded

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but the cards drawn are unseeded

plain geyser
#

I think the initial card randomization thing breaks

feral lantern
#

probably

lean laurel
#

it is kinda goofy

plain geyser
#

so if the first card in the list is Ace of Spades normally, maybe for them it’s 6 of Diamonds on one run and King of Hearts on the next but the reset of the RNG works fine

lean laurel
#

i thought i destroyed my laptop beyond recognition when i first did it

plain geyser
#

With the shuffler sorting

umbral umbra
#

What I mean is that if I gave you a brand new seed - would you have the same card order for that run as me

feral lantern
vague bough
lean laurel
umbral umbra
#

if you don't do this glitch in that run

vague bough
#

all my seeds give different cards than everyone else

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and the cards i get are different whenever i restart the game

plain geyser
#

@vague bough @feral lantern are both of yours the same among each other?

vague bough
#

no

feral lantern
#

no

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Its random every time we exit the game

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even if same seed

plain geyser
#

I think I know what the issue is

#

Because I had something similar when I was running the game code through LOVE instead of compiling it into an exe

lean laurel
#

i should probably make it very clear that the slightest of holding down the cashout button WILL crash

plain geyser
#

I noticed it because I was trying to find the default card order for Immolate but it kept randomizing

feral lantern
#

Whenever we are 100% ready Ill ping skoottie

vague bough
#

here are the first cards i draw on seed 11111111 before and after restarting

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plasma deck white stake

#

theres one of the errors i got around that time, not sure if thats what caused it though

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my jokers seem to be the same as the normal seeds although i havent tested every joker in the sequence

#

the only reason i even noticed the first time was because i was using the wr speedrun seed to get stuntman

lean laurel
#

is there a good way to group in all the weird side effects of Mid Round Cashout?

feral lantern
#

um...

lean laurel
#

there are a lot of different and weird stuff

feral lantern
#

Might be a bit to much to test

lean laurel
#

I can just cover the big ones

feral lantern
#

Id rather not lead Skoottie into crashing 20 times in one stream if we can help it

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lol

lean laurel
#

ill just cover the mid round shop and mid round game over

vague bough
#

tell him to go offline in steam haha my friend yelled at me because i kept crashing and starting like 100 times

feral lantern
#

did it

vague bough
#

not sure if you already put it but if you draw a nil card but its invisible you need to go back into the game in order to load it in properly

feral lantern
#

Oh truee

lean laurel
#

oh yea have we figured out why and how duping cards work

feral lantern
#

Yeah

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its on there

analog warren
#

i scrolled up, and all i see is the continue button has evaporated

lean laurel
#

noice

analog warren
#

god damn it

plain geyser
#

You just have to wait 5 seconds to go to the main menu 🙃

lean laurel
#

just speed up time

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no prob

lean laurel
#

im gonna going back to non experimental balatro so i can use the bug

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ok i think we're good for now

feral lantern
#

rdy for ping?

lean laurel
#

yup(after math reviews it lmao)

plain geyser
#

I alr looked at it before

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Seemed fine

lean laurel
#

ok we good

feral lantern
#

Dear @dusky elm,

The following document contains the glitch I asked if you wanted to see on youtube. Be aware that things like scoring a consumable can result in crashes and we have tried to tell you everything that may result in crashes just incase. Another thing is this bug will be patched in the next version or this current experimental version

The more game breaking bugs are WWIII and Card Duping while the funnier bugs (Imo) is CCD and getting cash out on the shop

The main people who helped this are ShadowBulb, enemui, Neinlove, Project666, softestcat, Animate, MathIsFun_, and of course Localthunk

BrownieBread and Psychomaniac also helped me learn how to explain the glitch easier to them so thank them also

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1anEXKP4yFlnOH2bkfiSK_3BJbaU7s5kv1OrmdA6LRVg/edit

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and now we wait

plain geyser
feral lantern
lean laurel
#

@plain geyser oh yea off topic but i REALLY want to know all the ante scaling related stuff, like green/purple stake and the true ante scaling equation

plain geyser
lean laurel
#

k

umbral umbra
#

I'd prefer if you guys didn't mess up Skootties game files to no longer seed properly - there's a risk of that right?

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Or at least so he knows the risk

plain geyser
#

@feral lantern please put that on the top of the doc

lean laurel
#

let's just say if you just want to screw with this bug it is advised that you do this in a seperate profile

feral lantern
#

ok

plain geyser
#

but it was global...

#

not locked to that profile

lean laurel
#

dang

umbral umbra
#

Please please please

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don't give me a bunch of work

#

don't make this into a headache

lean laurel
#

uhhh play this on a new computer?

#

wait no

plain geyser
#

I'm trying my best not to - I know there's already a lot going on with the game rating issues

#

and I wish you luck on that

umbral umbra
#

Just don't also sabotage a streamers game files, because that is on me

lean laurel
#

yk i probably should've expected i screwed up some part of my game

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oh whatever

#

im gonna love this game nonetheless

plain geyser
#

if y'all want I can probably patch the unseeded hands thing with a mod, I think I know the issue

#

won't solve the main problem obviously but might help you out if it annoys you for the time being

feral lantern
#

I dont mind it

lean laurel
#

it's probably gonna piss me off about give or take 2 weeks after i forget this even existed

plain geyser
#

I still have no clue why that would permanently break things, unless it's some LOVE2D bug on top of a way Balatro does things

feral lantern
#

Math's cards are still seeded and they did everything but double cashout stuff and thats when I started having the problem

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so it should be that that is causing the unseeded cards, and not CCD or WWIII

#

back to my ItsMaximum video

plain geyser
#

I'm going to try double cashout and see if it triggers the issue

umbral umbra
#

This is a bug that I don't have to hunt if the root cause is patched - I'd rather not chase it if I don't have to

#

Theoretically version M has the setup patched right

#

Then I might DM Skoottie so he knows messing with this glitch might mess up his game seeding

edgy kayak
vague bough
edgy kayak
#

I think I did the original white whale in 9.0 but that's about it lmao

vague bough
#

im going to basically fresh reinstall everything and see if it fixes itself

umbral umbra
vague bough
#

ya, im just saying if he breaks his game the new patch wont fix it (obviously)

umbral umbra
#

...

vague bough
#

the new patch will fix THIS bug but not the seed one... which would be the problem for him lol

umbral umbra
#

I guess this is what I'm doing today then

lean laurel
#

uh have fun ig(this is gonna delay the mac stuff isn't it)

plain geyser
#

just realized this happened to me too 🤣

plain geyser
#

didn't even do anything

#

new

#

but I definitely think I know the cause

feral lantern
#

theres a 50% chance Skoottie doesnt even see it

#

we'll be fineeeeee (please god)

plain geyser
#

welp time to write my mod to fix it then balatrojoker

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can anybody whose draws aren't bugged tell me what the first hand of 'CCD' seed gives?

feral lantern
#

until further notice

plain geyser
#

^

umbral umbra
#

Did you DM Skoottie about this already?

#

And sorry what are you asking him to do?

vague bough
#

send all complaints directly to localthunk

lean laurel
#

: )

plain geyser
#

Going to mod a fix to the issue so hopefully it works on my end too balatrojoker

patent perch
#

🙏

umbral umbra
#

What's the upshot here?

#

I'm actually curious - is this so that he can add consumables to his deck on stream?

vague bough
#

i think shadow just wants to show him/his stream something cool

umbral umbra
#

Right - and potentially mess his game up right?

vague bough
#

hopefully not

patent perch
#

Clearly this is just a ploy to break the game enough and make it unplayable, making room for a new streamer

vague bough
#

the skootie coup

feral lantern
#

All I did was tell them CCD and WWIII

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we added the double cashout and stuff which caused this glitch and put that it is prone to crashing and softlocking

umbral umbra
#

I DMed him

feral lantern
#

Ok

#

(Im beginning to think Im more trouble then Im worth) balatrojoker

umbral umbra
#

Please just use some empathy here - he might not appreciate if you aren't forthcoming about what might happen to his game

vague bough
umbral umbra
#

lmao I thought you said 'it' not 'I'm'

patent perch
feral lantern
#

XD

#

Both are true

umbral umbra
#

I am telling you - for my sake - this is more trouble than it's worth

#

for me

vague bough
feral lantern
#

Ik

patent perch
#

I just so happen to have a "fully" unlocked collection (bar Illusion which is impossible to get shop 1)

vague bough
#

heres my first shop on "ccd"

#

cool at least thats the same

feral lantern
#

yeah shops are same

patent perch
#

yeah, it was stated that the shop isn't bugged, just the draws

vague bough
#

open an arcana

patent perch
vague bough
#

ya but your cards are probably different right

plain geyser
#

oh, about that mod...

#

I "fixed" the issue

vague bough
#

pog

plain geyser
#

I just don't have the original shuffle the game uses

#

so my cards are different but always the same

#

I hope

patent perch
vague bough
#

right

plain geyser
#

should be, just checking again after game restart

#

yeah, they're good

#

does anyone here have Steamodded but not have the bug

#

might send over a test script so I can sync up with the current game's cards

vague bough
#

is there a way to sync up with everyone else? (i have no clue what you did or what the problem was)

plain geyser
#

I had this issue before so I knew what was wrong

#

I fixed it now but don't know the game's original "randomly shuffled" order

umbral umbra
#

You'd always have to have this mod installed though right?

plain geyser
#

yes

#

unless you made it modify the game code permanently, which is something that I'm not going to do

#

but you could just port those changes to the code if you were patching it

umbral umbra
#

No

#

This isn't a bug that needs to be patched after 1.0.0m

feral lantern
#

fair

vague bough
#

if theres a new bug that gives the same sort of errors could it happen again in the future?

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or dupes cards

lean laurel
#

so to clarify skootie is most likely NOT going to try this due to the obvious permanent risks that could take place

feral lantern
#

yeah

#

that should be the case

patent perch
#

just getting a consumable into your deck doesn't mess up your game, but it's also not interesting

#

it functions as an additional consumable slot most of the time, with crash potential

vague bough
#

lets make northernlion do it instead 😂

lean laurel
feral lantern
#

😂

lean laurel
#

northernlion would crash immediately

#

no doubt

vague bough
#

he wouldnt do it but if he did he wouldnt get it to work lol

lean laurel
#

this man's deck would've changed so much to where it fixes itself

feral lantern
#

Northernlion would somehow frame perfectly manage to open a shop and start a fight without crashing and buy a voucher, but not put it in deck

lean laurel
#

should we do vid demonstrations for each bug

#

im not doing it due to my amazing slideshows in a program called obs

feral lantern
#

same

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I dont think we rlly need to

#

I can try my best to steer skoottie if they do this on a stream

#

and I think that will be enough

plain geyser
#

So I realized something funny

feral lantern
#

ok

plain geyser
#

The unseeded bug is not from the CCD glitch

feral lantern
#

lol

plain geyser
#

It’s from 1.0.0L update

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We were just the only ones who tested it

#

The reason why I had the same things happen when I was modding the 0.9.3 demo is because I also used the version of LOVE that Balatro just upgraded to in order to run it

feral lantern
#

So coincidences are real

plain geyser
vague bough
#

so nobodies seeds are seeded? that cant be true

umbral umbra
#

That’s possible, if it’s only been a few days

#

Is there documentation on the change? I only see that it was updated because before it had ‘buggy’ behaviour

#

I’ll have to do a sweep of the codebase at large

#

I tried to use ipairs when applicable though so I don’t think it’ll be too bad

feral lantern
#

dang it, I softlocked mywself

vague bough
#

nobody has tried speedrunning or using a set seed in the past 3 days? that seems unbelievable

patent perch
vague bough
#

oh

patent perch
#

the bug isn't an inherent part of this current update, more just exclusive to this update

feral lantern
vague bough
#

crazy we were the first to notice it

feral lantern
#

Lol

#

had to sell a cloud nine for bull

patent perch
#

damn, now you only gain 500 chips per turn, instead of 1000

vague bough
#

youll never win now!

feral lantern
#

ikr

#

why doesnt bootstrap have the (currently: x) like bull does?

patent perch
#

only just noticing that now?

feral lantern
#

yeah

analog warren
#

shadowbulb im not sure how potent it could be, but what if we froze balatro by right clicking the window when its in windowed mod

#

ive tried and i can click things not at the same time, but almost

lean laurel
#

another potential bug is having a card be stuck to your cursor, but idk how it can be utilized just yet

#

maybe with the hook

feral lantern
#

Ive tried both of those for months and no results 🤷🏻‍♂️

analog warren
#

What about opening up multiple balatros

#

I've gotten some interesting results but I doubt you actually can transfer one game data to another

dusky elm
lean laurel
#

hopefully there are no permanent consequences lmao

analog warren
#

also i doubt it, because verify game file integrity

#

and reinstallation

plain geyser
#

now speedrunners are using it to set seeded WRs lmao

analog warren
#

ante skip hits crazy

lean laurel
#

m

analog warren
#

itrs off-topic but lol

plain geyser
#

*beats the game in 0.1 seconds in round 1 with naneinf*

analog warren
#

xD

#

anyways imma try some stupid multibox stuff

lean laurel
#

when skootie vid lmao

analog warren
#

idk

#

also idk if its a known bug, but if you manage to freeze a card, you can just keep a facedown card on your screen forever

#

and it does some weird stuff

lean laurel
#

freeze?

analog warren
#

if you autoclick and click all your cards really fast

lean laurel
#

ohhh that

#

yea it's pretty known

#

iirc

analog warren
#

yeah i know

#

just needed to know if the things that follow it are

#

like this

#

and its just there

#

forever

feral lantern
analog warren
#

wii

#

can we shorten it to that

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i like that

#

the wii glitch

lean laurel
#

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dusky elm
lean laurel
#

if only there were no issues with double payout

#

that is funniest one imo along with mid round shop

lean laurel
#

we should prob do video demonstrations so skoottie can see what COULD happen... if it doesn't crash

#

also i need to see DNA and a planet card

lean laurel
#

i should add one of the most useful applications of this glitch
you can draw extra cards

#

i completely forgot

patent perch
#

double drawing do be funny

#

I may or may not be abusing that to beat Jokerless

#

or trying to at least

lean laurel
#

im gonna use ouija and that glitch

#

: )

#

ok added it

#

it is very fun watching skoottie use what i took part in "making"

#

omg

#

you can replay the same blind

#

twice

#

lmao

lean laurel
#

iirc you don't need to discard after playing the bugged hand on duping cashot

#

why do i keep editing docs

#

why

feral lantern
plain geyser
#

Yeah we realized that the seeded issues were not caused by the cash out glitch but by the 1.0.0L update @dusky elm ; it just happened that we were the ones who observed the glitch first because we were crashing the game on seeded runs lol

#

So you shouldn’t need to worry about the issues

tall raft
#

you've really team red'ed the shit out of this glitch haven't ya

feral lantern
#

team red'ed?

plain geyser
#

We maxed it out pretty much

#

All that’s left is a 4 round speedrun and that’s pretty much it

feral lantern
#

and probably card dupe stone cards with stone joker

tall raft
# feral lantern team red'ed?

A red team is a group that pretends to be an enemy, attempts a physical or digital intrusion against an organization at the direction of that organization, then reports back so that the organization can improve their defenses. Red teams work for the organization or are hired by the organization. Their work is legal, but can surprise some employe...

feral lantern
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ah

feral lantern
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I love when I get x3125

feral lantern
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another x3125, this bug is just to good

lean laurel
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lol

feral lantern
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I got antimatter but sold 1 of the stencils cause I need to unlock merry andy

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and it was a holo merry andy

lean laurel
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lmao

feral lantern
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If you do ante skip fromm ante 8 to ante 10, you dont unlock the stake...

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time to redo red stake abandoned deck

lean laurel
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you have a htr seed?

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i had such a good run where i kept duping jacks

feral lantern
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nope

lean laurel
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:(

feral lantern
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card dupe + merry andy + htr = profit

lean laurel
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lol

feral lantern
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even this much power... its not enough

lean laurel
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i dare you to dupe showman on plasma

edgy kayak
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What would be the point of duping that though

lean laurel
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idk

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there's not much thinking when you wanna try something like this out

edgy kayak
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Balatro moment

analog warren
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How great it would be if multiple showman increased the chance of duplicates popping up

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Instead of just now they can

balmy kiln
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i just had this random thought

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what if you use a negative consumable in the CCD

feral lantern
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it works

balmy kiln
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ooh

feral lantern
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I think it doesnt rlly do anything special but I wasnt paying attention

balmy kiln
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any images?

feral lantern
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nah

lean laurel
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oh yea i forgot how to make your score over the blind mid round

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you remember how to do it shadow

feral lantern
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was on this seed, skip first blind and buy both packs and 2nd one has perkeo I87BKXRP

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lean laurel
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ah got it

feral lantern
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also if you did the cash out on shop and then did shenanigans you could kinda do that

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I forgot how

lean laurel
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dang you can't do what i wanted to do

feral lantern
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dang

lean laurel
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if only

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oh yea what happens when you do CCD and double payout simultaneously

lean laurel
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particularly with save editing

feral lantern
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ok

lean laurel
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wait i just realized

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i think i can manually edit my erratic start

feral lantern
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just dont break the rules or else well both be in big mess

lean laurel
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dw it should be allowed

feral lantern
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ok

lean laurel
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lemme just read the rules for the 5th time in a row

feral lantern
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Ima continue what I was doin then

lean laurel
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the only rule that's closest is rule 10 but im not doing any source code stuff so im in the clear

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for some reason the save edit is locked with anaglyph deck

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i can't manually change that

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wait i can change the shuffles?

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eh ill not touch that

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i just set win:false to win:true :)

lean laurel
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completely normal

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i love hiker + 30 blueprints

balmy kiln
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wtf 2500 chips?

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oh

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that makes more sense

lean laurel
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im gonna do this till ante 8

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then ill pivot into mime baron

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cause why not

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also save editing can be used for challenges lmao

analog warren