#January Demo Joker Community Tier List

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harsh field
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🧵

edgy remnant
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my list:

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solemn kite
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who wants to yell at me for putting htr at D tier balatrojoker

floral harness
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thank you shadow, for putting gros_michel where it belongs

solemn kite
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yw

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I mean +15 multi strong, and I havent had it die once this demo

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free carry through first 2 antes and slight carry ante 3 yes please

tacit basin
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I've had it die on me early ante 2

solemn kite
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skill issue

tacit basin
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popcorn, on the other hand, is very reliable

solemn kite
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popcorn should be +21 -3

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ngl

floral harness
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popcorn needs a nerf lol

solemn kite
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actually maybe +15 - 3

tacit basin
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popcorn is stronger when you're playing a skip-heavy game

last sky
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Well we basically split into two channels lmao

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Now there's this also

solemn kite
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lol

worthy bloom
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apparently there's two ways to view the community tier list

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most votes/average rating

floral harness
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oh thats nice

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austere monolith
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howdy listers

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anyways

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jimbo s tier

austere monolith
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sly joker is a D and nothing else

waxen wing
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why?

blissful veldt
worthy bloom
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average rating doesn't look like it works tbh. superposition is clearly in D from average votes but the site is putting it in C still

austere monolith
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50 chips for a joker slot?

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means nothing past ante 1

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and even then

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ehh

harsh field
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Who on earth is putting Brainstorm not in S

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And invis

solemn kite
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Sue em

waxen wing
worthy bloom
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someone put b for brainstorm lol

austere monolith
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I am steadfast in my ways

last sky
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Wasn't there that one person who didn't put blueprint in s?

waxen wing
blissful veldt
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i didn't put invis in S just because it takes up a joker slot without doing anything for 3 blinds, and its pick is random

tacit basin
# worthy bloom most votes/average rating

it's particularly useful to compare the way these diverge. Like if you play a particular style, Green might be A tier, and if you play another style D tier is generous. So I expect it to have a very split vote.

last sky
floral harness
last sky
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No embeds

worthy bloom
last sky
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Rip

austere monolith
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both are bad

waxen wing
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but one is clearly better

harsh field
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I'll do my own averaging and analysis like last time, don't worry!

austere monolith
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yeah superpos

harsh field
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It'll be much more thorough than what they provide

austere monolith
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a tarot for a straight is better than 50 chips for a pair

floral harness
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i love data!

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spreadsheets my beloved

waxen wing
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so like every hand except a straight

solemn kite
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coke prob most controversial one

austere monolith
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so flush

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and strush

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and high card

blissful veldt
last sky
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What's your tier list thunk

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What do you think

floral harness
austere monolith
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only with deck manip

solemn kite
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Im shocked htr so high

waxen wing
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so 9/12 hands are triggered by sly

austere monolith
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still not guaranteed

brave grove
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here's my list

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blissful veldt
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get all jacks from a spectral -> hit the road gets good

waxen wing
solemn kite
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ok but how often have you gotten that?

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weak obsidian
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coke barely qualifies as a joker so being controversial isn't surprising

blissful veldt
brave grove
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yes i ranked clubs worse because of the boss

last sky
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Banana in s is crazy

solemn kite
blissful veldt
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i put it in B because it has so much potential

solemn kite
worthy bloom
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people voting D because green banana last longer

last sky
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A 15+ mult is s? Fucking delusional

austere monolith
blissful veldt
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no hit the road

austere monolith
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ah

harsh field
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Hey!! They sort in order within each tier now

tacit basin
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I thought about putting club joker one tier lower, but I see the club boss early often enough that I'm like "ok don't have to worry about him any more"

blissful veldt
weak obsidian
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surprised popcorn is lower than banana too

waxen wing
harsh field
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According to number of votes for that tier

blissful veldt
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they had an update? nice

last sky
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That's the difference between s and a

austere monolith
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S is always take for me

last sky
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A +15 isn't s

lime badge
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don't get how y'all are putting banner in C and D

last sky
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Sorry

austere monolith
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regardless of build

lime badge
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it's busted with the right build

austere monolith
waxen wing
last sky
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Nah

waxen wing
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it is an always take tho

last sky
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I'd rather take misprint over banana

dusky vale
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Is the tierlist ranking the jokers by how much I like them, or by how powerful they are imo? Because that's 2 different things.

dry valley
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I've been swayed on green joker not being bottom tier but otherwise he's what I put

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tacit basin
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I use my discards a lot, and I usually have a focused build so like ... 120 chip straight joker clears

austere monolith
waxen wing
solemn kite
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In no discard builds its good but normally I skip it

edgy remnant
last sky
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But I know I can keep it

solemn kite
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unless baseball and their isnt a single better uncommon

austere monolith
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this is for opinionated debate only!

last sky
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Real

waxen wing
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oh ok

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obelisk C

last sky
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Nocap

austere monolith
waxen wing
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too much dedication

last sky
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Brainstorm d tier

austere monolith
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HUH

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oh wait that gives me an idea

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I should lie to spark debate

worthy bloom
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yeah if you're gonna put obelisk in c you gotta put brainstorm in D

waxen wing
worthy bloom
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bruh what

dusky vale
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Wut?

solemn kite
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bruh what

harsh field
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bruh what

austere monolith
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bruh what

blissful veldt
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bruh what

waxen wing
blissful veldt
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just spam high card

solemn kite
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yes

brave grove
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💀

worthy bloom
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you only get 5 hands out of it?

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something's wrong

last sky
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I love that he said he is gonna lie and people take him seriously

solemn kite
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lol

blissful veldt
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well you do kinda have to get it early mid-game

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or earlier

austere monolith
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speaking of lying

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green joker C tier

waxen wing
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seance is confusing to rank honestly

solemn kite
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Pants builds with obelisk are also good

tacit basin
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Obelisk seems like it'd be strong if I did a pants built and then transitioned into like flush or smth

dusky vale
harsh field
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How is there 1 in D and 8 in S

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Bell curves in shambles rn

austere monolith
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we like to have a lil fun

dry valley
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the jokers are good

worthy bloom
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superposition balatrojoker

dry valley
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minus like 3 of them

solemn kite
austere monolith
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superposition more like pooperposition

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cuz it's bad

dry valley
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nah superposition is kinda nice

last sky
dusky vale
dry valley
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especially with shortcut and four fingies both in this demo

solemn kite
brave grove
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superposition is a lot worse when you can have vagabond and credit card

dry valley
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but it has worse reward than vagabond and harder to trigger

blissful veldt
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way harder

dry valley
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people voting vagabond S should put superposition at least C

waxen wing
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ngl superpos should be lower than jimbo

solemn kite
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I think Ive gotten superpos to proc once this demo and vagabond like 20

waxen wing
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at least with jimbo i get constant mult

dawn hull
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Green Joker is easy S tier. It’s Ride the Bus but green

blissful veldt
waxen wing
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lol

last sky
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Imo superpos should be just a straight

weak obsidian
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based jimbo enjoyers

last sky
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It's just a worse 8 ball

harsh field
blissful veldt
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the art and name

waxen wing
edgy remnant
last sky
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20 in debt is busted

solemn kite
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Im an A'r

last sky
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Reset it with wraith

blissful veldt
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I'm a B'r

waxen wing
dry valley
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A'r here works great with vagabond, early game and wraith

last sky
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And get a rare joker and basically +20 dollars

brave grove
last sky
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Imo defo a for credit card

lime badge
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What if Superposition was spawn a random Tarot or Spectral?

waxen wing
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i haven't really used credit card due to the challenges so ima def use it

last sky
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Still mid

vast dew
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$20 debt is great if you don’t have a good economy but utterly worthless if you do

last sky
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Gotta be just a straight

waxen wing
blissful veldt
tacit basin
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if superpos was a planet and tarot, it'd be better

waxen wing
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better than trash honestly

solemn kite
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I got 3 uncommons, bs, and was -16 dollars in debt cause of credit card and was wraith, sadly no baseball

worthy bloom
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i sacrificed $40 to use vagabond once. it was completely worth. after i finished with it i got my $40 back from hermit/temperance. S tier.

solemn kite
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cause wraith gave me obelisk

last sky
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Better than trash is c tier

dry valley
last sky
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Needs to go to b atleast

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Make it work on a straight and it's perfect

waxen wing
dry valley
last sky
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Maybe a buff for 1 to 5

dry valley
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I only get hex and familar with seance -> lose run, true combo

last sky
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Maybe 1 to 5 has a chance to spawn a spectral

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What you saying about that

vast dew
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The reward of hitting on Superposition just isn’t worth the joker slot

waxen wing
last sky
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I mean

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It's a spectral so it's rare

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It's balanced for it to be rare

waxen wing
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i think you just want seance v2

blissful veldt
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to the cola users: do you sell it immediately after buying most of the time, or do you actually wait until you see a tag worth doubling before deciding to sell it?

waxen wing
edgy remnant
dry valley
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I'm shocked that throwback is being put in S by like everyone

last sky
dry valley
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like skips are good but not that good imo

vast dew
worthy bloom
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those are anaglyph players

edgy remnant
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if i have another joker i need to buy and cola is holding the slot, i sell instantly

blissful veldt
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i think i shouldn't have given cola just C. if you have good econ, coke is an easy buy and sell and buy a scoring joker in the same shop

waxen wing
edgy remnant
brave grove
worthy bloom
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duality of humankind

waxen wing
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im all the deck players

dry valley
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I'm an anaglyph player but only get a good skip like once in 5 runs ( C'r )

vast dew
brave grove
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it's just really easy xmult for fullskip, and anaglyph is pretty viable for that

vast dew
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Even if you skip the first two blinds in your run and go into the first boss with nothing, which is pretty easy to handle, that’s a 1.5x mult right there

waxen wing
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and the retroactive part

blissful veldt
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i like throwback when getting it early cos afterwards i'll just skip more often than i normally would. getting it later in the run isn't worth it for me cos i don't skip enough

vast dew
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If throwback wasn’t retroactive it would probably be A or B tier

dry valley
waxen wing
vast dew
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I would also buy every standard pack I see haha

waxen wing
dry valley
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yeah I guess I don't play any fullskip so that's fine

waxen wing
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2 skips = a permanent discarded jack in htr

vast dew
# dry valley me when I discard one jack for 1.5x

I think there’s just a general preference for things that hit every time instead of conditionally, in this case needing a jack (which isn’t that hard to come by but you get what I’m saying?)

waxen wing
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htr is still A tier ngl

dry valley
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I like playing most blinds, and buying/making many tarots to modify my deck

vast dew
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I haven’t used HTR much

dry valley
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so htr appeals to me more

waxen wing
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htr is a very good pick

vast dew
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I’ve never gotten a good invisible joker use

worthy bloom
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as usual the retrigger joker of the demo getting S because of high score specifically

blissful veldt
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i put it on A

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it has enough synergies with other jokers for regular play as well

dry valley
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I feel like the fact that there are noticable difference of opinions in the jokers goes to show the strength of this game in how many different ways you can play

blissful veldt
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fibo + hack + photocard can be great

brave grove
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eh, there's not a lot of hands that's useful in

blissful veldt
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regular low straight with fibo and hack is good early game

brave grove
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yeah ik

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but photograph

blissful veldt
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ah

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yeah it's mainly with flushes that i use it

brave grove
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that's only really gonna be useful if you're playing flushes like A235K

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in which case, you're one to a strush

blissful veldt
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while that's true it doesn't mean it's likely you'll get a strush from redrawing

brave grove
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the real deal are RPG 5s

blissful veldt
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my tierlist is mainly for winning the demo unseeded

brave grove
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true

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but just one glass card with hack is gonna do more work than photograph

blissful veldt
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yes but that's like a last resort kind of thing while photograph is just safe

worthy bloom
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jimbo finally joining superpos in D

blissful veldt
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fair

harsh field
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Really wish it hid the results from everyone until 24 hours is up

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So you can't see where others are leaning

blissful veldt
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agreed

last sky
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how will we mess up the results then?

floral harness
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i did all my votes with the screen scrolled so i couldnt see those

frigid mist
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i really wanna change some stuff

pine linden
frigid mist
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i accidentally put shortcut in A tier

pine linden
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reserved parking is the worst joker

frigid mist
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also baseball

blissful veldt
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hm, i put baseball at S but i'm reconsidering cos you're relying on having uncommon jokers that work well with your build

pine linden
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baseball is low s for me

wild loom
serene parrot
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Very excited to see the final results

green herald
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seance in B yall???
have any of you guys ever had seance do anything

blissful veldt
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yes but only on tarot builds with lots of deck modifications

green herald
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like my second run into the new demo i got seance and a setup to consistently get straight flushes by ante 1 so I was getting the spectrals every round

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and it STILL did basically nothing

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cuz half of the spectrals are things you dont want to see if you can already consistently get straight flushes

blissful veldt
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i agree

green herald
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and the other half are kind of barely ok

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I haven't played this demo thaaat much so my opinions are subject to change but most of mine weren't so far off of the crowd

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my main hot takes it seems were:
Trading Card S (even if it didn't give money it'd be really good, with it it's just crazy)
Suit Jokers A (The degree to which they enable flush builds is huge and they function earlygame even out of flush builds)
Sly Joker B (I've unironically taken it over other options before, way better than +5 mult on pairs)
Seance D (womp womp)

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would probably move ramen down to B in hindsight though

void bronze
waxen wing
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superpos in b...

green herald
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I used to be a superposition defender but I dropped it to D this time around

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I still think it's better than the other D tiers though

void bronze
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Obelisk in

C

full hazel
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might be bad since I'm more of a casual player

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wild loom
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flower pot being in b tier in the total list is actually criminal

serene parrot
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the real crime is credit card in C

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but yeah flower pot goes straight to D

wild loom
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bro what???? Flower pot is A tier at least

blissful veldt
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📸🤨

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how are you able to play 4 suits that often

pale hamlet
serene parrot
pale hamlet
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something like this

serene parrot
pale hamlet
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flower pot kinda dookie

serene parrot
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dookie pot

pale hamlet
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pookie

wild loom
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idk, i find it gets so much value in something like a full house build which i play all the time

pale hamlet
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yeah i don't think its bad
i think the requirements are just a bit high when most common builds revolve around matching suits or copying cards which usually copies suits

serene parrot
wild loom
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I feel like you can get some crazy value out of it though as long as you play around it

serene parrot
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If you are already outscaling the blinds so much and its just extreme value when it does hit, just play an econ joker and call it a day

floral harness
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wild cards make flowerpot way better

serene parrot
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true but i think the intent is to vote on these jokers in a vacuum

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alot of these jokers would shift spots if we consider other interactions

worthy bloom
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if the criteria is the same as the last time we did a tier list, we can rank any way we want

harsh field
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You can rank any way you want! Consider interactions, consider in a vacuum, vote based on which looks the prettiest

lethal pollen
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I have no clue if this is a good tier list or not, this is just my honest opinion on playing the game semi-casually

wild loom
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fibonnacci C tier is crazy

lethal pollen
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Wait that was supposed to be in B whoops

edgy remnant
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you can change votes iirc

lethal pollen
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I'm too lazy

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

frigid mist
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ngl it deserves s tier

lime stream
vast dew
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I reserve S tier for must-take Jokers

weak obsidian
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Flower pot is like this demo's guilty pleasure

last sky
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People sleeping on it

prime knoll
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how do I even vote

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what does it fail to fetch

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weird way to say that I need to log in

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actually still happens after logging in

weak obsidian
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In my mind flower pot is C, in my heart it's like high B. I love the art too

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Man they did banner dirty

prime knoll
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why

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its a solid b tier

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unless u do some weird run like high card or Idk

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then it'd be like A

weak obsidian
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Many C tiers. For me it's either B or A

prime knoll
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I still can't vote there, insane

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do it old fashioned way, I guess

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updated a bit

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my c tier has a lot of "alright early game but since I dont have troubles winning they aren't that good for high scores"

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well bull might actually be C-B tier for me, since I never really got to use it either

coral plinth
prime knoll
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todd works for high scores

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+Mult does not make much difference when you have 10^10+ XMult

prime knoll
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maybe if u were able to just discard 1 card at any point in the run to use it? then it'd get a bump

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baseball also probably floats between a and b tier, depends on joker setup

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hit the road is cool in theory, but I already have hard time duping the cards I need, duping the cards I don't necessarily need just does not sound fun

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and you would also want to play trash hands instead of discards to utilise it, when there's no jacks drawn

last sky
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Todd is way better than steven

sick halo
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Why does everyone hate superposition?

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I think glitch joker A tier for me balatrojoker

sick halo
lime stream
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i think superposition just feels under powered in the current pool as vagabond is just there to destroy it

prime knoll
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Ofc you can argue to use shortcut like credit card for vagabond, but the issue is that you want to go through as many tarots as possible, and straights just score too much

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Compare that to vagabond or 8ball, you can just play high card or pairs respectively

prime knoll
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Pants are solid A tier though

prime knoll
lethal pollen
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Misprint is goated

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The only thing it needs is
M o r e r a n d o m n e s s

lime stream
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im glad it goes to 23 now

lethal pollen
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It needs to add more
Chips
More
Mult
More
Everything
It needs to become
Rng

last sky
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I would be down for that

pale hamlet
tacit basin
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main problem with misprint is that the inconsistency means sometimes you way overkill, but sometimes you randomly miss winning the blind because it gave you a 0 mult. I would usually prefer a consistent +10 to even 0-25 random.

bright edge
prime knoll
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so much copium from misprint enjoyers

full hazel
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JOKA COLA ON D?!?!

prime knoll
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gift card and obelisk D tier is so sad

sick halo
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Drunk joker D bruhh