gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 12:08 AM

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In addition to our Arcana, Celestial, and Spectral Packs, we now have Buffoon and Standard Packs!

Buffoon Pack

Choose 1 of 2 Jokers to obtain.
Jumbo: 1 of 4
Mega: 2 of 4

Standard Pack

Choose 1 of 3 playing cards to obtain. They have enhancements, editions, and seals at random.
Jumbo: 1 of 5
Mega: 2 of 5

Larger-size Arcana and Celestial Packs have the same sizes as Standard Pack, and Large-size Spectral Packs have the same size as Buffoon Packs.

As always, suggest topics for future discussions and tell me if this timing doesn't work for you.

little solstice Jan 30, 2024, 12:09 AM

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mega celestial is basically the same as jumbo

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but more expensive

fast nacelle Jan 30, 2024, 12:10 AM

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not for jokers that grow based on how many planet cards you've used

noble tartan Jan 30, 2024, 12:10 AM

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I loooove the new packs
Picking 2 from a mega makes them so much more worth it
Buffoons and Standards are great for the game too, more ways to get more options in front of the player . My only concern now is that shops having 2 packs can sometimes feel restraining, or like the option you need isnt there. More luck of the draw, I guess.

solemn basin Jan 30, 2024, 12:10 AM

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new packs fucking RULE

little solstice Jan 30, 2024, 12:10 AM

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fast nacelle not for jokers that grow based on how many planet cards you've used

which there are none of in this demp

fast nacelle Jan 30, 2024, 12:10 AM

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yeah but that doesn't really matter

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 12:11 AM

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Sorry this is late again. I had an alarm! It got turned off!!

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mildly frustrated noises

little solstice Jan 30, 2024, 12:12 AM

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fast nacelle yeah but that doesn't really matter

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1200887068910436523 this post kind of explains my thoughts on it

fast nacelle Jan 30, 2024, 12:14 AM

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i don't have a problem with celestial packs. leveling hands can be really powerful in its own right

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Celestial Packs are too risky to purchase when balancing economy.
aren't the other packs risky too?

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 12:16 AM

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im of the opinion that celestials are worth it

serene socket Jan 30, 2024, 12:16 AM

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gilded kelp im of the opinion that celestials are worth it

i agree

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well most from a perspective of someone who does challenge runs

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 12:16 AM

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the reward is usually greater than the risk

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from my experience

serene socket Jan 30, 2024, 12:17 AM

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also fun fact there are 63000 different buffoon pack combinations

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 12:17 AM

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we can talk about celestials in normal channels tho. let's keep to the new packs and sizes

serene socket Jan 30, 2024, 12:17 AM

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i don't really know if the jumbo sizes are worth it

fast nacelle Jan 30, 2024, 12:18 AM

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main reason to get them is cos it's your only choice LUL

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 12:18 AM

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i like the jumbos if im looking for something specific

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they were definitely much worse in previous demo

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1/4 1/3

serene socket Jan 30, 2024, 12:18 AM

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buffoon jumbos are very good ngl

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 12:18 AM

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big agree

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you can slot in whatever you need quite often

serene socket Jan 30, 2024, 12:19 AM

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heck even celestial jumbos are pretty good if you don't really care about the cost

sage nacelle Jan 30, 2024, 12:19 AM

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fast nacelle > Celestial Packs are too risky to purchase when balancing economy. aren't the o...

We can discuss more in that other thread. But like i said in the post its due to the binary nature of Celestials vs the variable ones of others

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On this topic though, love standard packs. Like buffoon packs but less than standard. They have a significant dropoff once you have an established joker lineup.

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Standards i think are the most fun to open and can add value at any point in a run

fast nacelle Jan 30, 2024, 12:22 AM

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hm yeah, they might just be taking up space in the later antes

sage nacelle Jan 30, 2024, 12:23 AM

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they are excellent for getting your feet off the ground

noble tartan Jan 30, 2024, 12:23 AM

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True
I love standard packs as a way to make the deck more interesting with less choice. Another thing to change specing too

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and WAY better than playing cards appearing in the shop like sept demo . wowow

stuck folio Jan 30, 2024, 12:24 AM

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Maybe Mega celestial should be 2 of 6

sage nacelle Jan 30, 2024, 12:24 AM

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not saying buffoon packs need to be changed though. Its fine that cards and packs have varying power during a run

stuck folio Jan 30, 2024, 12:25 AM

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Also, normal spectral as a skip reward feels weird, I think it should be Jumbo

noble tartan Jan 30, 2024, 12:26 AM

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I'm a little iffy on it too but I understand the desire to keep spectrals a little rarer

sage nacelle Jan 30, 2024, 12:27 AM

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No brakes. Give me the Mega Spectral Tag

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 12:30 AM

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yeah agree

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skip tags should pull out all the stops for packs

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mega for all of them

stuck folio Jan 30, 2024, 12:48 AM

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Maybe Mega spectral should become 1 of 5 and be a skip reward

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 12:49 AM

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what?

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why 1 of 5 instead of 2 in 4?

neat quiver Jan 30, 2024, 1:21 AM

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2in4 be crazy

stuck folio Jan 30, 2024, 1:23 AM

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Maybe Mega spectral should become 1 of 5 and be a skip reward

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 1:25 AM

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but why?

neat quiver Jan 30, 2024, 1:25 AM

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Because more spectrals balatrojoker

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2 in 4 seems too busted ino

stuck folio Jan 30, 2024, 1:26 AM

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stuck folio Maybe Mega spectral should become 1 of 5 and be a skip reward

I didn't type this twice what

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 1:28 AM

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i was wondering what happened lol

neat quiver Jan 30, 2024, 1:29 AM

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Idk, I just think sigil ouija would be too broken

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Specially since fish in in play now

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Other combos to

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Grim Deja vu prehaps?

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 1:30 AM

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2 random aces and a red seal?

neat quiver Jan 30, 2024, 1:30 AM

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Medium familiar htr?

neat quiver Jan 30, 2024, 1:30 AM

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gilded kelp 2 random aces and a red seal?

Looking for glass

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 1:30 AM

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probably better luck with incantation

neat quiver Jan 30, 2024, 1:31 AM

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Fair

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 1:31 AM

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also red seal + glass isn't that broken on its own

neat quiver Jan 30, 2024, 1:31 AM

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Fine

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Incantation 5's deja vu

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 1:31 AM

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sigil ouija is super power but not likely

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would like to see that now

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lol

neat quiver Jan 30, 2024, 1:31 AM

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Ankh wraith

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Probably a hard hitter

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 1:31 AM

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yeah that one's good

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or hex wraith

neat quiver Jan 30, 2024, 1:32 AM

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Tbh hex wraith feels really bad

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 1:32 AM

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o?

neat quiver Jan 30, 2024, 1:32 AM

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Maybe that's just cause I think poly is bad

gilded kelp Jan 30, 2024, 1:32 AM

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oof

neat quiver Jan 30, 2024, 1:32 AM

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Ooh wait

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Wraith immolate is a nasty combo too

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But ig you don't really need 1 spectral pack

#Daily Discussion #16 - New Packs and Changes To Packs

Buffoon Pack

Standard Pack