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Localthunk is considering changing the upcoming joker lineup from what we saw in the invitational. Give your input on what you'd like to see swapped out, or in!
As always, suggest topics for future discussions and tell me if this timing doesn't work for you.
Daily Discussion #9 - Jan Demo Joker Lineup
still sorrel
aww yeah
drifting pebble
where's the invitational jokers list at
still sorrel
cosmic crater
how many synergies are there with Oops! all 6s in the jan 25th demo
drifting pebble
i didn't notice much
cosmic crater
since alot of 1 of X effects are removed there are few synergies
crisp magnet
does oops all 6s make gros michal more likely to break?
cosmic crater
other then edition chance(at least i think it should affect that right?)
drifting pebble
it only affects listed probabilities
still sorrel
maybe removals, but with the hologram buff last night it should stay (as well as fibo maybe)
cosmic crater
people have discussed removing business card for this demo and gros michel isnt really that big of a synergy
still sorrel
yeah, i feel the same about oops
cosmic crater
so Oops! all 6s feels like it need some help from other jokers or get changed out for another joker this demo
cosmic crater
*maybe* removals, but with the hologram buff last night it should stay (as well ...
what buff did holo get?
cosmic crater
thats nice
still sorrel
yeah, since standard packs are the only consistent card adders
crisp magnet
is there a voucher that is only available after gros michal?
still sorrel
cavendish, a joker, is only available after gros michel expires
hybrid dust
there is too much xMult and not enough base mult especially since many base mult cards based on hand type got changed to chips
crisp magnet
so if we get rid of gros michal, we need to also get rid of cavendish
I agree there was a lot of xMult
hybrid dust
regular joker, abstract, misprint are needed
grizzled mesa
also agree theres alot of mult but we also didnt get too much mult in the last demo outside of stencil, black board aaaand I think one other im missing? so its nice to see some mult for those big scores
crisp magnet
I think that even steven and odd todd aren't necessary as we have the suit based +Mult
cosmic crater
i would like any +handsize joker, since there arent any planned for the jan 25th demo
still sorrel
there's the +handsize voucher
still sorrel
troubadour and drunkard both being in could be cool
cosmic crater
i dont really know what jokers to change out except for the obvious ones, i notice that i just seem to want to change out the weak ones
like bull and fortune teller
pulsar cosmos
and ig superposition in the full game
cosmic crater
might not need a buff, but feels rather weak in the jan 25th demo, might also just be overshadowed by all the xmult
reef girder
agree on business card, parking already fills that niche. I feel like the 4 suits joker + the 3 xmult hand jokers are a bit too much in a 45 jokers pool. You see them a lot during a run, especially the suit jokers. But a demo isn't meant to be replayed a lot so it makes sense using basic jokers as an introduction to the games mechanics
cosmic crater
agree on business card, parking already fills that niche. I feel like the 4 suit...
arent you supossed to hit at least 100 hours on the demo?
hybrid dust
Sly Joker (COMMON): +40 Chips if played hand contains a Pair
Wily Joker (COMMON): +70 Chips if played hand contains a Three of a Kind
Devious Joker (COMMON): +100 Chips if played hand contains a Straight
Crafty Joker (COMMON): +70 Chips if played hand contains a Flush
I feel like these jokers all falll flat. All are worse or arguably worse than 2 levels of their respective handtypes, whereas their +mult counterparts felt slightly better
still sorrel
these chip jokers are getting buffs as well
pulsar cosmos
speaking of buffs
cosmic crater
these chip jokers are getting buffs as well
nice
pulsar cosmos
hologram?
still sorrel
yeah hologram will be nice with its buff
pulsar cosmos
wait what's the buff
reef girder
oh it's buffed ?
still sorrel
0.1 -> 0.25
still sorrel
my biggest issue with the rare hand-type xmult jokers is that there's three of them so, even though theyre rare, you see them (as a whole) a lot more often, making them less exciting
cosmic crater
similar issue with the suit jokers, there are 4 this means that roughly 10% of the jokers you see is one of them
still sorrel
I think that's only gonna be an issue in the demo
yeah, definitely just a demo issue
full game they'll be hot stuff
covert zinc
sock n buskin
hybrid dust
and with the suit jokers....you see way less arcana packs in this demo so it can be harder to suit up
reef girder
I see the prevalence of xmult jokers as a way to make the demo more "shiny" and welcoming for newcomers. Just beautiful jokers and cool effects to hook players.
Also a way to experiment with a different balance and get feedback from the community
hybrid dust
but without base mult or hand levels (way less celestial packs) that base mult number is a lot smaller and can make you stall out in the midgame....will neff had a bunch of games like this where he had like x2 mult+ x3 but he was playing with only single-double digit base mult
still sorrel
no planet synergy either
moving away from planet's amount of prevalence in the sept demo is good, but having a couple planet jokers would help round things out
even if its just like, 2
hybrid dust
maybe that spacedog that levels up hands would help with oops all 6s too
green urchin
maybe that spacedog that levels up hands would help with oops all 6s too
was just abt to say that lmao
dusk swallow
Dog???
hybrid dust
maybe im misremembering the joker that has 1 in 4 chance to level hands...for somereason i thought there was a dog in the art....maybe im confusing it with cosmo from marvel
dusk swallow
If I add sock and buskin then I think I should keep Photograph
There are too many Xmults in general though
Not enough base +mults
drifting pebble
photo does have the issue of being unintuitive to newer players though
cosmic crater
local what about Oops! all 6s, there is basicly no synergy with it this demo
still sorrel
a small bit of planet synergy and some more +mults would round things out a lot
green urchin
photo does have the issue of being unintuitive to newer players though
isnt that the "x2 for first face card played"
i forgor
still sorrel
yes
green urchin
Not enough base +mults
tbh im curious how many of each catagory of joker there is (+C +M XM and util)
dusk swallow
Me too, it's probably much different than sept
still sorrel
the issue i have with photograph is that you want it to proc on the last card of the hand whereas the other face synergies want as many faces as possible, so it has anti-synergy with them
plus its a little tricky for newer players
i love it for the full game though
green urchin
mhm
but tbh to me specifcally, its a bit weird to read (i understood it immediately though so idrk)
dusk swallow
I think the issue is with the concept of a card 'triggering', not Photograph specifically
cosmic crater
i dislike the amount of face synergy when there is a boss that literaly turns all face cards upside down
dusk swallow
Which makes me think sock and buskin will have a similar crayon problem
hybrid dust
supernova is not as good without the hand leveling either and it + bus were big base mult sources in prior demo along with planets
cosmic crater
that amount of face synergy automaticly steers players to a face build
only to be kind of hard countered
dusk swallow
That was intentional!
It was to show prospective players that synergies both boon and counter a build
Like how Oops all 6s makes the wheel harder
Or how wild cards make suit bosses worse
hybrid dust
i feel like hand type focusing was over-nerfed
dusk swallow
What do you mean nerfed?
cosmic crater
lack of celestial packs
hybrid dust
there are way less celestial packs
cosmic crater
and planet related jokers
green urchin
It was to show prospective players that synergies both boon and counter a build
wasn't there that entire discussion like 7 months ago about not having that happen
green urchin
kk
dusk swallow
So if you spec into flush you cannot win
green urchin
checks
still sorrel
yeah, a boss being worse for specific builds is okay as long as it doesnt guarantee kill them
dusk swallow
For Jokers, there's not much I can add for planet support
That doesn't seem like it's addressing the issue though
I think the issue is that planets aren't common enough
cosmic crater
i think having 2 different types of packs appear would already help give the player more choice
and if you are always seeing 2 different packs it more likely you see 1 pack of the one you want
dusk swallow
So it can be tweaked to make arcana/celestial more common than buffoon/standard
dusk swallow
It is
green urchin
ohg wait what0
dusk swallow
That's what it was like in the invitational
green urchin
i swear there was way more standard/buffoons during invitational
at least the like 3 games i saw lmao
still sorrel
So it can be tweaked to make arcana/celestial more common than buffoon/standard
maybe just buffoon more rare? standard packs being more rare makes hologram worse again
but i like the idea there
cosmic crater
i think buffoon and standard pack should be the uncommon equivalent, if arcana and celestial would be common and spectral the rare one
dusk swallow
Anyway that's an easy tweak
cosmic crater
if you are talking about how much they should appear
reef girder
I'd make buffoon more rare for sure. Not sure about standard packs
hybrid dust
So it can be tweaked to make arcana/celestial more common than buffoon/standard
I think this would go a long way and maybe have it so you always have at least 1 of arcana/celestial and that no 2 shops in a row without both
cosmic crater
also the name standard pack feels slightly weird to me
like what does standard mean
still sorrel
i still advocate for trio/tribe/order to be swapepd out, there being three of them makes them more common as a whole thus less exciting, with so few jokers overall, plus the prevalence of xmult elsewhere
cosmic crater
i know its a playing card, but that might not be really clear to beginners
dusk swallow
I just wanted to mention that because that's a better way to address it than adding planet Jokers
green urchin
i still advocate for trio/tribe/order to be swapepd out, there being *three* of ...
thats fair tbh (gives the +C for X hand a bit more spotlight)
crisp magnet
I'd make buffoon more rare for sure. Not sure about standard packs
do regular caqrds appear in the shop? or is it just via standard packs?
green urchin
do regular caqrds appear in the shop? or is it just via standard packs?
unless the skip tag doesn't exist then nyo
hybrid dust
Buffoon packs dont seem to add much tbh
still sorrel
satellite would be a good option for planet synergy, more econ to replace business card, and a good strat to help bull
crisp magnet
are baffoon packs joker?
green urchin
satelite or space jonkler probably at best
reef girder
yes
dusk swallow
If the issue is that you aren't getting enough planets - I'd rather make planets more common
green urchin
fair
dusk swallow
What about Jokers to swap in?
I can add a couple new ones
I don't know if I want sock/buskin
crisp magnet
I think planets/astronomy packs need to be a bit more common
still sorrel
bootstraps could be a good choice
scaling +mult
maybe another econ joker to complement it too
green urchin
i mean, bull exists (even if it is trash)
still sorrel
yeah bull synergises with bootstraps, which is fun
cosmic crater
feel like there isnt much money synergy in current demo
dusk swallow
I have other +mult Jokers to add
still sorrel
if you're only taking one then id say bull too
drifting pebble
bull was cool, just needed a buff
crisp magnet
if bull potentially needs balance, id want it to be part of the demo so we can balance it
still sorrel
its 2 fer 1 now
green urchin
+5 chips pls
hybrid dust
i feel like making planets more common is not as good a solution as more celestial packs. Because as a player I feel more comfortable moving into a hand type build if I can rely on a steadier stream of packs; whereas in order to make the specific planet(s) I want show up regularly in the store...this takes a lot of shelf space which crowds out other builds
reef girder
swashbuckler ?
dusk swallow
i feel like making planets more common is not as good a solution as more celesti...
This is what I meant
still sorrel
swashbuckler will get some help if some xmult gets replaced by +mult
dusk swallow
Swash will be better for non - high score runs
The high score meta tainted some of these Jokers
green urchin
yup
dusk swallow
like all the suit +mult ones will feel much better for wins than high scores
green urchin
it is hard to balance strong jokers with average jokers tbh
still sorrel
i dont think we need shortcut and 4fingers, of the two id prefer shortcut for this demo
dusk swallow
I thought it was fun to have 2 - like 4fing and Smeared in the last one
I think those are very important Jokers to have in a demo
Specifically for brand new players
Not for balance or meta
dusk swallow
This demo is designed for new players - sorry to say
drifting pebble
having 4 fingers with seance also incentivizes people to attempt to make straight flushes with 4 fingers and learn that interaction naturally
still sorrel
thats a good point
dusk swallow
I'm trying to serve 2 groups but the 'new player' group is far more important for a demo
green urchin
This demo is designed for new players - sorry to say
i mean, no one has played it yet, so everyone will be new to it
dusk swallow
You know what I meant
green urchin
sure
cosmic crater
the only downside of four fingers+shortcut is that its more confusing for new players compared to four fingers+smeared i think
still think they should stay
dusk swallow
I have yet to see that, it could go either way
4fing is the most confusing of the bunch
still sorrel
egg could be a good choice to bring back for a bit of econ and the swash synergy
dusk swallow
the alternative is smeared + shortcut
green urchin
meh
still sorrel
egg could be a good choice to bring back for a bit of econ and the swash synergy
thematic mirror to sept demo's egg+dagger lmao
green urchin
thematic mirror to sept demo's egg+dagger lmao
tbh egg is nothing with no dagger
still sorrel
plus egg has a cool interaction of being an econ joker that doesnt ruin vagabond
hybrid dust
joker order seems more important and complex in this one so its not quite as new player friendly....lots more xMult and brainstorm over blueprint
crisp magnet
with shortcut four finger, would A 3 4 5 count as a straight?
green urchin
oh no
still sorrel
I'll add one of those instead
ok cool thats what id ask if no egg lol
dusk swallow
with shortcut four finger, would A 3 4 5 count as a straight?
so would A 3 5 7
drifting pebble
having 4 fingers with seance also incentivizes people to attempt to make straigh...
i think 4 fingers is really good for this demo
green urchin
joker order seems more important and complex in this one so its not quite as new...
yeah, its a bit weird that v0.9 felt the most "normal" of an demo
crisp magnet
so would A 3 5 7
wait what? that's so powerful
dusk swallow
yes 🙂
still sorrel
shortcut is so cool
green urchin
long cut
cosmic crater
has the K Q J 10 four fingers royal flush been fixed yet?
green urchin
i thought that wasn;t considered a bug
cosmic crater
it wasnt?
green urchin
idk
crisp magnet
I thought you needed AKQJ for royal flush
green urchin
technically you can say 4F fills in the A/t
dusk swallow
Nobody knows
still sorrel
royal flush doesnt even do anything so it isnt a big deal
dusk swallow
I like shortcut + 4fing if I were to pick 2/3
green urchin
i am VERY ready to play a AQT8 royal flush
dusk swallow
They're fun and wacky in a great way for new players
crisp magnet
is there a joker that allows a 32AKQ straight?
green urchin
personally, never been a massive fan with uility "objects" in roguelikes
my preference again tho
still sorrel
personally, never been a massive fan with uility "objects" in roguelikes
never say that around drspectred
dusk swallow
utility is my favourite subtype of Joker
green urchin
never say that around drspectred
bet im dming him rn
green urchin
it is
still sorrel
a good utility joker makes a player ask "wait can i do this?" and then answer with yes
drifting pebble
i've seen quite a few bad util items in games, it's understandable to be averse to them
extra damage/defense/points is ol' reliable
green urchin
i've seen quite a few bad util items in games, it's understandable to be averse ...
aliensrock in peglin /j /j /j /j /j
cosmic crater
time for 
drifting pebble
but util can just fall completely flat
i think most util in balatro is good though
still sorrel
agree
green urchin
yeah balatro has util change the entire game lmao
dusk swallow
There have been some garbage util cards, like throwback used to make first draw of round be the same cards you ended the previous round with
and nobody ever took it
And it had no other redeeming qualities
So I scrapped it
still sorrel
i think its funny that "throwback" encourages you to skip into the future more
green urchin
throw back in the trash
throwback is probably the biggest analgyph combo-er
not by alot
cuz u gotta beat the blinds
dusk swallow
Thing is that util Jokers need to be actually usable and powerful to some extent
because they compete directly with score/money
green urchin
mhm
dusk swallow
So you guys want all 3 Xmult handtype Jokers out?
still sorrel
i cant speak for everyone there but i do
green urchin
campfire knows best ig 🤷
still sorrel
noo i am one voice of many
green urchin
hehe
still sorrel
all perspectives are valuable
green urchin
as much as i love messing around with Xmult
im slowly believing that Xmult shouldn't be this abundant
even if it is a demo
still sorrel
ill advocate for what i think but i wanna hear from everyone
hybrid dust
i dont think they need to be out. I think more celestial+arcana+1 or 2 base mult jokers solves the issue. Fotune teller+suit mult jokers become stronger, planet builds revive
still sorrel
i just dont like have three whole rare slots taken up by almost the same joker when there's already so few
green urchin
true
drifting pebble
already expressed my opinion
green urchin
ive said it so many times but like
throughout the content of V0.8.8 and the invitational
it feels like rares/Xmult is the most out there
yes i do know its not a representation of the real game
hybrid dust
remove 3 of a kind one
dusk swallow
I'm gonna knead pizza dough but I'll keep this open
hybrid dust
i mean at least on the wiki, most of the rares are the xmult cycle or the suit cycle
green urchin
always with food localthunk
still sorrel
i mean at least on the wiki, most of the rares are the xmult cycle or the suit c...
wiki is not up-to-date
they cant keep track of all the changes that happen from the discord
itll be reliable once official stuff comes out
like the suit stone rares are gonna be uncommon
unless local changes his mind lol #🕹・game-discussion message
hybrid dust
you could take out 3 of kind rare and add bootstaps to make an interesting bull/bootstrap build. plus works with the vouchers in this demo. plus adds more base mult
earnest rover
I'd prefer Bull
i feel like bull is a card that wont get taken by many new players unless bootstraps is also in the demo (assuming bootstraps hasnt been changed)
earnest rover
you could take out 3 of kind rare and add bootstaps to make an interesting bull...
didnt read this but this is my exact thought lol
still sorrel
Local said he’d rather one or the other than both
earnest rover
gotcha gotcha
still sorrel
I think they’d be a nice fit together too though
stable hill
What did I miss from this thread
earnest rover
im look thru 8.8/9.x and see if i can find some cool cards that would work instead of the 3 rare's
still sorrel
What did I miss from this thread
Jan 25 demo is getting a joker that works similar to egg
Business card is out
Sock and buskin is only a maybe
Celestial packs will be slightly more common
stable hill
Nice
earnest rover
Put in the one that buffs high cards
that sounds familiar but i forgot what card that is or that was a fanmade/new card
stable hill
I also missed the last hour or so of the joker rework chat from yesterday
still sorrel
No full reworks there, just some numbers balancing
coral valve
i feel like bootstraps should be added
with seed money being a voucher i can see it working
still sorrel
Bull is +2 per $1, fibo is +8 instead of +4
stable hill
that sounds familiar but i forgot what card that is or that was a fanmade/new ca...
I think the only one we know about is one of those, yeah
earnest rover
I think the only one we know about is one of those, yeah
speaking of, anyone have the doc of the new jokers from leaks in a doc on hand
stable hill
Campfire maintains it
still sorrel
I don’t have anything in there from the invitational, only leaks posted to discord from 
earnest rover
ye thats what i was talking about
i wanted to see if theres any leaked ones that would have good syn
earnest rover
thank u goat
dusk swallow
Did sept demo have any really explicit synergy like pareidolia/parking?
still sorrel
dagger/egg
coral valve
supernova + burglar
still sorrel
burglar/loyalty (less explicit)
stable hill
supernova + burglar
Bus too
coral valve
true
dusk swallow
supernova + burglar
This is more a soft synergy
powerful still
But one doesn't beg the other
still sorrel
there was a lot more basic stuff in sept demo
dusk swallow
I'd be more intro removing some of the hard synergies
coral valve
blueprint + literally anything /j
dusk swallow
instead of adding things to support hard synergies
it's good in the full game with 150
but with 45 that synergy becomes the 'flavour' of the demo
coral valve
true
still sorrel
face synergy does have quite the prevalence
coral valve
ye
dusk swallow
Yeah like even getting rid of pareidolia
stable hill
Are there any tag changes planned for the demo
still sorrel
honestly id be cool with pareidolia out for the demo
it does nothing without hard synergy
drifting pebble
that said, pareidolia + parking was fun to watch
earnest rover
lookin thru the teaser dock the only one that i feel could add some unqiue soft synergy rn is trading card
earnest rover
adding onto bull or bootstrap
earnest rover
hell yeah
still sorrel
ooh yeah thats fun
earnest rover
that card looks fun too
drifting pebble
what's trading card again?
stable hill
You could also add the castle (even though effect isn’t known)
still sorrel
good thematic mirror of dna from sept
drifting pebble
oh yeah selling first discard
earnest rover
what's trading card again?
stable hill
That looks fun
still sorrel
if pareidolia is out, photograph would actually be better than it is now
which i like
covert zinc
anti-dna
earnest rover
also has really good synergy with standard packs
still sorrel
more strategic
dusk swallow
Even if I swapped pareidolia out straight up for trading card - it feels like a net positive
great idea
earnest rover
<3
dusk swallow
What are the thoughts on Fortune Teller?
still sorrel
i like fortune teller
dusk swallow
It works in kind of an unintuitive way
stable hill
Will Cerulean Bell be the only demo boss, or will there be two that rotate?
drifting pebble
seemed a bit weak
still sorrel
good with vagabond
stable hill
What are the thoughts on Fortune Teller?
fine tbh
still sorrel
it'd better if arcana were more consistent
dusk swallow
It's retroactive which helps
drifting pebble
oh it is?
earnest rover
What are the thoughts on Fortune Teller?
i always liked it from the old 8.8 videos
dusk swallow
yeah that's why it's unintuitive
drifting pebble
is throwback retroactive?
dusk swallow
no nothing else is
drifting pebble
welp
drifting pebble
throwback would be a perfect candidate for retroactive
still sorrel
That change for celestial/arcana packs from earlier would help too (for fortune teller)
dusk swallow
Throwback was buffed - I hope that helps with it
I don't like the idea of retro Jokers in general
earnest rover
to .5x im assuming
dusk swallow
yeah
earnest rover
I don't like the idea of retro Jokers in general
you'd hate this guy
still sorrel
Throwback was buffed - I hope that helps with it
It’ll be great with anaglyph deck
coral valve
i think anaglyph will be the deck that i play
drifting pebble
I don't like the idea of retro Jokers in general
why not?
dusk swallow
'this run'
coral valve
magic is prob better but anaglyph seems fun
dusk swallow
why not?
It becomes easier to pivot into something in the late game, making the times you need to work for the card less rewarding. That has pros and cons
I think it's debatable for sure
drifting pebble
that's about what i predicted
earnest rover
also if we are having problems with planets maybe adding the planet deck? but thats a huge maybe
drifting pebble
however, i think in most cases you'd have to be lucky enough to have already been building into a retroactive joker's condition
earnest rover
i dont know if we know the planet decks new effect but it could help if theres low planet usuage
drifting pebble
and i think the upside of not making several more dead jokers late game is worth it
dusk swallow
I can see an argument for throwback
part of it is also that the assumption is that no jokers are retroactive - and the only ones that are would say so
Like supernova
But that's a wording thing
earnest rover
I can see an argument for throwback
it does make even tags that dont help u rn a more useful thing if u are planning for throwback
drifting pebble
there are also some jokers i would not consider to be candidates for retroactive
still sorrel
throwback being retroactive would make more sense from a thematic standpoint
drifting pebble
like bus, obelisk, and runner
still sorrel
defo agree there
dusk swallow
Oh it could be ONLY retroactive
drifting pebble
although runner maybe debatable
dusk swallow
like doesn't go up when you have it and skip
drifting pebble
oof
earnest rover
OOOOOOO
drifting pebble
thematic but
dusk swallow
Just a different design
earnest rover
cool idea but that feels like a full game rework instead of a demo rework
as the demo is tiny comparaitvly
drifting pebble
can i use postcard joker to ship it into a later round if i find it
dusk swallow
ship em
stable hill
I like throwback upping the benefit of using tags after you buy it
dusk swallow
It's a balance thing too - if it's not retro I can make it stronger
Like if Fortune Teller is NOT retro - then it's horrible
So I'd need to buff to maybe 2X the number of tarots used
still sorrel
fortune teller is a bit on the weak side even with retroactiveness, without the full 8 antes to take advantage of it
i like it though
earnest rover
It's a balance thing too - if it's not retro I can make it stronger
if throwback remained .25x but was retro, if u skip all blinds youd make it to boss with an extra 2.5x but obelisk could easily get u way higher aswell as some other jokers
drifting pebble
FT might have an issue where it's either just bad or incredible
like 1 tarot a round from packs, or 5 tarots a round from vagabond + packs
dusk swallow
Yeah I don't really like FT that much in general
But it's so simple for a design
It's good to have simple ideas like that as long as it isn't broken
That is very easy to understand for a new player
earnest rover
idk, i really like its design
earnest rover
if pareidolla is removed would smiley face joker be a good add?
dusk swallow
the 4 suit +4 mults kind of make it harder to add
coral valve
still face synergy
earnest rover
tru tru
green urchin
did 🙂 joker ever get an ability leak
still sorrel
yeah
coral valve
the 4 suit +4 mults kind of make it harder to add
i feel like removing them wouldnt be bad
earnest rover
ye
dusk swallow
the 4 suit ones are staying
earnest rover
did 🙂 joker ever get an ability leak
dusk swallow
they're perfect for new players
earnest rover
1000% agree
still sorrel
also agree
coral valve
fair
green urchin
didnt see that in leaks doc but okay
tbh wasn't expecting that good of a bg/art to be pretty basic
dusk swallow
Ok I'll make the art worse
green urchin
bet
stable hill
didnt see that in leaks doc but okay
It was new
green urchin
kk
dusk swallow
I'm struggling with the Xmult poker hand ones still
They seem good for new players
bad for yall
still sorrel
you could get rid of trio and leave the other two, maybe
that would at least help the high-hourers
earnest rover
i love thoose cards alot i just think theres alot for this demo
green urchin
the issue is that since were trying to make a new joker roster, some of the more "basic" jokers aren't in v0.9.2
i think anyways
stable hill
Ok I'll make the art worse
fixed it
green urchin
perfect
stable hill
ship it
green urchin
now it actually reminds me of my first joker art lmao
only true gamers will remember joeerror
earnest rover
tryna remeber what certificate rework was and see if that will have soft syn
still sorrel
its been changed since we saw its changes lol
earnest rover
gotcha gotcha
if its still relating to the new seals then it might be fun when we are trying to leseen the amount of x mult cards
my canidates for replacements in my head rn are: raised fist (a unique +mult set apart from the +4 suits ones), certificate (if it relates to new seals it will better help us learn them), space joker (will help old demo players get to more planet levels), chaos the clown (just fun for new players)
but also the demo could just be fine with the other replacements that were already made, type shit
stable hill
my canidates for replacements in my head rn are: raised fist (a unique +mult set...
what’s chaos
Are you talking about The Madness
earnest rover
chaos the clown?
yuh
still sorrel
swag i got it
earnest rover
corrected it
green urchin
the super reaction tho
earnest rover
super reacts are so fun now that they are unlimited
coral valve
i think jolly and the duo should be removed
coral valve
two pair deserves more
covert zinc
rip 🍌
