Tag: Money Hands

[rich wedge]

Gives X3 money per remaining hand

[late hearth]

Too op

maybe actually

now that i think its good

yeah nvm, i think it works fine

[glad hatch]

It’s far too weak. The current Money Tag gives $15 when you beat the boss. This gives $2-6 most times. Even with Burglar, Grabber, and a one-shot hand, it’d be $14 which is still worse than Money Tag.

This’d need to be x5 or even x6 to be worth it imo. Even if it was as good as Money Tag, Money Tag isn’t used too often beyond the very start of a run so this still wouldn’t see much use

Remember, you need to skip a blind in order to get this tag, so it needs to be at least equal in value to the blind in order for someone to take it if they’re trying to play well. A (skippable) blind can give $3-4 from the blind, $0-3 from hands, and $0-5 from interest if they have no jokers or vouchers that affect it. That’s a maximum of $12 already. Why would someone ever decide to get a maximum of $6 when they could instead get a maximum of $12? Even if they have no cash on hand for interest, it would still be $7 maximum if it’s on the big blind while giving an extra shop

[late hearth]

bruh i never get close to spending that much money ;-;

but looking at it like that, true its very weak, averaging at 12-10$ its not going to make much difference later on and even kinda at early

[glad hatch]

It doesn’t average 10-12, it averages 0-6 (weighted towards 4) if the player doesn’t have Grabber or Burglar

[late hearth]

i talking after multiplying by 3

oh wait im bad at math

yeah its going 4x3 = 12 and 3x3 for 9

[glad hatch]

It would be a bonus 0-6 on top of the base, whatever that happens to be

[late hearth]

most of times you either gonna get 9, and that is too low

[glad hatch]

It’s more worthwhile to look at how much the Tag is adding, not how much total money you’re getting

[late hearth]

playing 2 in a row and winning gives more money, like small to big goes 3+3+int (~6), and 4+3+int(~7) =6+7+int= 13+int, big to boss then its even worse getting

so skippin small to big, would give you only 4+3x3= 13 + 1 interest

it would only give 1 interest bonus, intead of 2 interests, so you would end up losing money

(and a shop)

and that is not to talk that if you barely getting by on chips side, skipping a blind could hurt

so its not worth risking going for it, and winning less or little money extra

(well but im kinda stupid, that is my conclusion)

[eager frigate]

Isn't the max you get get is

Starting hands - 3 Hands
Blue deck - +1 Hand
Burglar - +3 Hands
Grabber - +1 Hand
Nacho Tong - +1 Hand
Handy (Tag) - +3 Hands
One-shot hand
Will would result in 12 hands and I'm pretty sure (12-1) x 3 is not 14 and it's $33

That's the max you can get

[glad hatch]

I’m just going off what’s in the demo, so no blue deck or nacho tong. You also forgot that you can get Blueprint on Burglar. However, that’s irrelevant to my post as I wasn’t saying the absolute maximum, just the standard hand amount along with the usual bonuses you might get, Burglar and Grabber

If you need three jokers, a voucher, a tag, and a specific deck just to make a tag worth it, then it ain’t good

[eager frigate]

Then, we're not talking the same thing here, I'm saying "max" as mean the absolute maximum, and you're saying "average"

But you also have a point

This is kinda a bad tag

I perfer this as a joker instead

[glad hatch]

In my first post, the one you replied to, I didn’t mention maximum at all. Just two separate values. In my longer post, I did say maximum, as in the maximum of their current build. The absolute maximum will very very rarely matter, so I’m looking at it from the perspective of a roughly standard run and the maximum they could expect to receive from the blind vs the tag within that run

[eager frigate]

What's your "first post" I have adhd and mtml ;-;

[glad hatch]

The one that you replied to using Discord. This post. The one that starts with “It’s far too weak”

[eager frigate]

You mean message?

[glad hatch]

No? I mean, if you prefer that term, then I guess? They’re synonyms, they mean the same thing. So I didn’t “mean” message

[eager frigate]

I perfered words like this

[glad hatch]

Eh, they’re synonyms. Just up to preference which you use

[late hearth]

discord calls where are talking rn posts
forum - posts - messages
in the forum there are posts with messages

[glad hatch]

Or in the forum there are threads with posts
Or in the forum there are chats with comments
Preference is always a thing, people aren’t ever gonna come up with one unified set of words to describe everything, especially with how garbage English is