#Magical "Dốc cơ" (Joker)

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tacit isle
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  • Rarity: legendary
  • Summon chance in shop: 1%. Don't panic, you can increase chance by reroll but it dismis adding chance. Formula: Sum {[(1-1/100)^x],1,x}, x= Total time rerolled (shop) (Ex: reroll 1: +0.99%; reroll 2: +0.9801%; reroll 3: +0.970299%; etc) (More infocation in here https://www.desmos.com/calculator/zuwibewwt3?lang=eng)
  • Cost: $70 (basic editon)
  • Effect:
  • 1 in 4 (25%) chance add a random effect on played cards. If cards already have an effect, they are not affected
  • 1 in 10 (10%) chance add a negative effect for random "Dốc cơ" you have (except this one) every blind beat. 10% chance with no negative “Dốc cơ”, 9% chance with 1 negative “Dốc cơ” , 8.1% chance with 2 negative *“Dốc cơ”*s , … , Sum{[-10*(0.9)^x],1 ,x} % chance with x negative *“Dốc cơ”*s (dismising chnace)
  • Copy effect all "Dốc cơ" you have (left to right) NOT blueprintbalatrojoker and somebalatrojoker
  • 1 in 50 (2%) chance vanish this "Dốc cơ" when play every hand !!!!!
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paper lion
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Interesting luck based idea, but I'd like to note that legendary jokers are named after famous jesters from history or fiction.

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They're also only found from The Soul.

tacit isle
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Small chance vanish but give too much OP things

past jewel
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What

tacit isle
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What do your mean?

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The desmos does not have high accuracy

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just some ≈ value

tacit isle
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hey

cunning thistle
weary terrace
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what about bald joker

warped quarry
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Am I the only one who has read OP's post 3 times and still has absolutely no idea what this joker is supposed to do

cunning thistle
random bison
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Me too

weary terrace
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basically

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each reroll increases chance of this joker appearing in shop

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1 in 4 chance to add a random effect on selected cards (like if you were choosing cards after opening tarot bundle)
1 in 10 chance to add bad effect on random doc co joker you have
also copies effect of doc co on every other joker you have, from left to right

then 1 in 50 chance to vanish this doc co when played a hand

leaden zinc
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genshin impact is big in vietnam

random bison
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I don't understand this

weary terrace
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basically

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ill do an example

random bison
weary terrace
random bison
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If disappears maybe use burns or destroyed instead because that would be more understandable

random bison
weary terrace
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copies effect of misprint and applies to all other jokers

opal vessel
weary terrace
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so, normal joker would also be +4 multiplier and +random multiplier

weary terrace
opal vessel
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Fish

random bison
weary terrace
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yeah

random bison
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'Cause that's what misprint is

weary terrace
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like misprint does

random bison
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Okay I understand now

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Not sure if others will

paper lion
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I still can’t figure out what dôc có means and Google Translate didn’t help

weary terrace
random bison
weary terrace
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so you could understand

random bison
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Example?

weary terrace
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define an "example"

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😭

random bison
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Why would a "doc co" have a misprint effect in the first place

random bison
weary terrace
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also copies

random bison
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I know

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But how does misprint got there in the first place

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Just how

weary terrace
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i dont even know what else should i tell you

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random bison
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YES I KNOW

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BUT HOW DID THE "EFFECT" GOT ON THE "DOC CO" CARD?

weary terrace
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that's both ways effect

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it does two things at once

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i mean

random bison
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One is for selected cards

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Which mean cards played

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And the other one is for doc co

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"1 in 10 chance to add bad effect on random doc co joker you have"

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You said it's a "bad effect"

weary terrace
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nah im out

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i dont wanna bother explaining how example is different from concept

random bison
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Okay man

paper lion
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They said “negative effect”

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Maybe they meant making the joker negative

random bison
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Bro this guy said "bad effect"

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I didn't look up in the original post

cunning thistle
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What happen here

random bison
tacit isle
tacit isle
weary terrace
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I DIDNT TYPE NEGATIVE ANYWHERE

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FIND ME ONE MESSAGE

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WHERE I DID THAT

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IN THIS THREAD

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im going mentally ill

weary terrace
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where have i said that

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ill give you all what i have if you do find it, within this thread

tacit isle
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oh

random bison
random bison
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Also that's the only reason I was arguing with you

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Because I was like "But negative isn't a bad effect?"

weary terrace
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what was the problem with clarifying that he meant card edition

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and not effect type

tacit isle
random bison
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"bad effect"

random bison
weary terrace
random bison
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😐

tacit isle
cunning thistle
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It very fine

random bison
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So let me get this joker really straight
every card played has a 1 in 4 chance to get a enhanced random
1 in 10 to add negative to this doc co [every hand played?/every blind beat?], THEN copy ALL this doc co's edition and put it on other jokers (that's not doc co)
1 in 50 to vanish this joker when you play a hand

tacit isle
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“Dốc cơ” = doc co = joker

random bison
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Yes

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Also when does the 1 in 10 chance activates

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This joker is just really confusing to me

tacit isle
random bison
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This joker is kinda too powerful considering if you got the 1 in 10 chance you will get negative on all your jokers, for example if you have 5 jokers (max) you would get 5 negatives, which +5 joker slots (total 10)

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And all of that is just 1 in 10 (10%)

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  • Combined with Oops! All 6's
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That raises the chance to 1 in 5

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(20%)

tacit isle
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Ok, too powerful. Will change it to 10% chance with no negative “Dốc cơ”, 9% chance with 1 negative “Dốc cơ” , 8.1% chance with 2 negative *“Dốc cơ”*s , … , Sum{[-10*(0.9)^x],1 ,x} % chance with x negative *“Dốc cơ”*s

random bison
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My man took a long time to type

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Bro

tacit isle
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Like dismising value

random bison
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Okay

tacit isle
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you can make graph in desmos or edit my example graph

warped quarry
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Okay so having now read all of that debauchery that occured since saying I don't understand, I think I understand.
I now feel like this guy would be really underwhelming 99% of the time, with the 1% time being completely busted.
The fact that you need two of him to get the negative effect to work means that basically it's a $70 joker that MIGHT boost your cards when you spend EVEN MORE money on them, and there's a small chance he just dips every hand meaning your HUGE investment is wasted.

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Or wait

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Is doc co just joker like am I misunderstanding what it's name is

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Is it "Magical Joker" and you just put "Doc Co" to further confuse me?

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Because I'm reading this as you need two of THIS SPECIFIC JOKER (Magical Doc Co Joker) to even have a chance at getting the negative. But can it put that on any joker you have?

tacit isle
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“Dốc cơ” same pronun joker

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why my idea has no one like?

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Magical "Dốc cơ" (Joker)

past jewel
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Because it makes no sense

delicate marten
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OK a few questions

-When does this thing proc

-what happens when it procs

warped quarry
# tacit isle why my idea has no one like?

Okay now that I know it works on any other joker, I think this is a very cool and, at first glance, reasonably balanced idea for a super rare/legendary joker. So somebody likes your idea!

warped quarry
# delicate marten OK a few questions -When does this thing proc -what happens when it procs

Basically my understanding is:
First part is whenever you "select" a card (use a tarot card that picks card(s) to modify, MAYBE when you play a hand though not sure, discarding) , there is a 1 in 4 chance to proc this joker adding some random effect to the card such as bonus chips, mult, steel, etc.

The second part is whenever you beat a blind, there is a 1 in 10 chance to give one of your other jokers (at random) the Negative buff (+1 joker slots).

Third part is that this joker copies effects of all other jokers you have (blueprint joker but on steroids).

Fourth component is that every HAND you play has a 1 in 50 chance to destroy this joker without financial compensation nor trauma counseling for the fact that you just lost 70 dollars worth of assets on a 2% low-roll.

As for the odds of it showing up, it starts at 1% and every reroll you do increases the odds starting at just under a 1% odds increase. The odds increases from rerolls persist across rounds, and have slightly diminishing returns (i.e. first reroll of the game increases odds slightly more than second, second slightly more than third, etc.).

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@tacit isle correct me if any of this is wrong

past jewel
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Negative doesn’t give -1 hand size, that’s just that spectral card’s effect

tacit isle
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@warped quarry

  • 2nd part: Negative by this “Dốc cơ” is not minus hand size
  • 3rd part: This balatrojoker NOT copy effect blueprintbalatrojoker
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Why everybody react “❔”

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So much

past jewel
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Because as I said, it’s confusing and nobody understands it

random bison
cunning thistle
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Yea
I kinda agree

I actually don't know how to darw the doc co thing because It confused

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I didn't hate it
But i didn't like it either

warped quarry
delicate marten
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I could see this idea being split into multiple different cards, all of which are very expensive

A Joker where when you play or discard a card, you have a small chance of enhancing it
A Joker that has a fixed chance per blind to give another joker Negative
A joker that copies all other joker effects (like blueprint, but rarer and more expensive)

I like where you're coming from on the "rerolls make this more likely to appear" mechanic, I think that has a lot of potential
But the 1/50 chance to disappear seems really punishing, like a worse Gros Michel, when there's already a 70 dollar cost and secret way to get it hidden behind rerolls

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I have to ask, is this some kind of a reference to something? What's the inspiration for the art and name?

cyan cosmos
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Doc Q...