Joker Community Ranking

[tender thistle]

Feel free to discuss your votes or any trends you see here!

[blissful vortex]

blueprint S (100%) LOL

[fast aurora]

i mean yeah

[frosty spade]

Gros Michel S tier 🍌

[blissful vortex]

to do list...

[frosty spade]

Banana fans stay winning

[opaque willow]

how do we hide the total results so they don't influence our ranking? 😅

[fast aurora]

you do it first (like me)

[candid furnace]

Bro this is such a cool experiment

[frosty spade]

If you do it on mobile you can scroll the screen to only see your choices

[opaque willow]

I zoomed in and scrolled up so I can't see them 😎

[fast aurora]

who the FUCK gave loyalty card a c

i am insulted

[blissful vortex]

results

[candid furnace]

It's always overkill. Yes it's useful getting insane numbers final blinds, but it is never useful just beating the game

[fast aurora]

but a c??

[blissful vortex]

am I lagging what

[fast aurora]

and also, it's super useful when you are trying to win (4x is insane)

[blissful vortex]

OH WAIT I CANT POST IMAGES

[wanton owl]

yo who gave the "all planet cards in shop are free" joker s tier

[candid furnace]

Yes, but by that point if you're thinking of sacrificing a joker slot a blind or so early then you're probably going to win anyway

Compare this to stencil, which is practically a free 2x in the final blind

[blissful vortex]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1168352584210325534

[fast aurora]

okay, but it's super easy to plan out when your 4x is going to be

vs stencil which is only 2x in the final boss or if you purposely lose another joker

[candid furnace]

Yes, but you can never get it in the final fight without some way to increase hand number

[fast aurora]

sounds like you kinda suck at timing

[winter ice]

this is fun

[opaque willow]

who is giving bus c 🧍🏻‍♂️

[winter ice]

lmao

[candid furnace]

@fast aurora You need six hands for it to work. You usually have to at least waste a joker slot on the second last blind to get it to work

[blissful vortex]

me

[opaque willow]

🔫 how dare

[fast aurora]

or just get it to be active/active soon during plant
there you go easy win

[blissful vortex]

feel free to post results here

[indigo lark]

i didnt even know they had live polls

this is awesome

[candid furnace]

But you still have to waste a joker slot during plant, which if you need it to win the final blind, you probably need that slot

[winter ice]

my vote bugged on misprint of all things lmao

[fallen bobcat]

everyone here vote S on cartomancer

please

[fast aurora]

if you need EVERY single joker to beat plant then you wouldn't win verdant even with loyalty

[indigo lark]

heres my votes https://imgur.com/a/6v4uElF

[fast aurora]

link's broken

[indigo lark]

fixed

[blissful vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-enjoy-i-like-nom-nom-gif-11040065238845078056

[frosty spade]

GROS MICHEL IS DOWN IN B

[blissful vortex]

no gifs/images in this thread

[fast aurora]

would be good if you didn't put loyalty in b

[indigo lark]

ive had it break on me alot, and i play speedruns so a chance to break is not good for us

[frosty spade]

My psionic warriors. Vote S for the banana.

[indigo lark]

that ones just personal vendeddta cant lie

[tender thistle]

Files work now?

[indigo lark]

i just dont like the card lol

yep!

[fast aurora]

and i don't like you

[tender thistle]

Also can you send a file in #📊・polls itself?

[candid furnace]

I'm saying that if you beat plant, you will probably beat verdant 80% of the time, regardless of whether or not you picked up loyalty. It's just for the big number go up hehe

[opaque willow]

loyalty looks like it has eyes and I can't get over it

[winter ice]

no permission to post in #📊・polls

[tender thistle]

Thank you

[candid furnace]

TF is business doing in f

[indigo lark]

you mean in every other thread, ye

[tender thistle]

I'll close the other thread

[blissful vortex]

yep

[fast aurora]

abandoned deck

[indigo lark]

its just not as a good as the other money cards especially cuz its a chance

[wanton owl]

damn, ceremonial dagger and superposition are really duelling it out for last place

[indigo lark]

if it was a confirmed thing itd be good

[fast aurora]

stencil isn't s btw

[candid furnace]

I main abandoned; doesn't mean I don't envy the usage of business

[fast aurora]

also why did burglar drop so hard

[winter ice]

supernova's got a weird split of votes

very interesting

[indigo lark]

dusk in d is insane

[winter ice]

depends on your criteria

[thick sky]

ngl alot of these are wrong dont hate me lmao

[indigo lark]

yup

[fallen bobcat]

the thing is dusk never actually wins a run, it's only good if you're going for high score

[blissful vortex]

its cause you either yellow or your abandoned

[candid furnace]

I feel like supernova is a beginner's trap; I used to adore it but now I find it okay I guess

[thick sky]

reletivlty good chip gainer tho (not great but yuh)

[indigo lark]

i put it in s cuz its good for speedruns

[opaque willow]

if you go funny high card build with bus, supernova is basically another bus

[thick sky]

put it in s cuz normally your only going for one hand type anyways

[fallen bobcat]

i will not stand for Cartomancer in C

[candid furnace]

It's basically the only reason I pick it up anymore lol

[wanton owl]

i have never had anything good come out of it

[opaque willow]

😎 👍🏻

[thick sky]

carto is just S, superposition/8 ball but hella more easy to proc

[thick sky]

bus moment

[frosty spade]

its based on whichever tier gets the most votes, not an average of all votes

[opaque willow]

🚍

[thick sky]

just alone the fact that blueprint is considered S by everyone that voted rn lmao

[opaque willow]

LMAO 100% S

nice

[thick sky]

exactly what i mean lmao

[indigo lark]

half joker in c in total rankings hurts me

[thick sky]

also juggler in A is crazy

[thick sky]

agreed-

[wanton owl]

whoever is putting ride the bus in c should be sent to state penitentiary

[opaque willow]

where should it be?

[winter ice]

if blackboard has one fan, i am that fan

[thick sky]

burglar in S mmm yes very good

[candid furnace]

It would be a really good card if not for the fact that the SECOND BOSS walls it

[thick sky]

s teir all the way babeh

[indigo lark]

rerolls

even tho u dont get it all the time ofc

[thick sky]

ngl its only 1.6k

[fallen bobcat]

juggler is divisive, i put it in S but it could probably have been A

[opaque willow]

I love Juggler a lot but I don't think it is as impactful as any of the other S tier jokers

[thick sky]

juggler is just generally a really strong card tho

[indigo lark]

i havent tested it but does blueprint work with juggler

[opaque willow]

also S and A are very close 😅

[candid furnace]

I feel like juggler is really good, but it doesn't really let you win. It doesn't give any bigger scores, just makes your scores more consistent. I'll usually use it early-mid game

[thick sky]

no but imagine 12 card deck

[winter ice]

juggler isn't as strong as other S tiers, but i have it in S because it's common

[blissful vortex]

no

[indigo lark]

u wont have to imagine in full release cuz trubador

[thick sky]

banana in S ong ong ong ong ong

[blissful vortex]

ong

[thick sky]

fr

[winter ice]

shadow's got all the food in S

[fast aurora]

juggler is the best common, followed by misprint

[thick sky]

and burnt joker

[winter ice]

u hungry mate?

[opaque willow]

what's trubador

[frosty spade]

banana enjoyer :)

[candid furnace]

Banan go hehe S trololol

[thick sky]

misprint go crazy

[indigo lark]

• 2 hand size, -1 hand

[steady nimbus]

I made ONE mistake, I think Hiker is A

[indigo lark]

just worse juggler

[candid furnace]

No way hiker A

[indigo lark]

but stacks

[fast aurora]

your mistake was a mistake

[thick sky]

tf fibbonacci and five fongors in C???????

[opaque willow]

wot

[fallen bobcat]

in the full game I like the dual commons of Mime + Steel joker making each steel card in hand +30 mult

[opaque willow]

why

[blissful vortex]

yeah, ran out of milky pretzel thingys

[winter ice]

rip

[thick sky]

those the best petzels

[indigo lark]

cuz juggler used to be worse when trubador was in the old early release

[winter ice]

well ice cream, banana, and egg together make banana custard, so enjoy :)

[opaque willow]

maybe Trubador will be buffed then?

[thick sky]

pls stop-

[indigo lark]

most likely

[thick sky]

+50 hand size but also - 48 hand size

[indigo lark]

probz reworked ong

[thick sky]

very fair

[blissful vortex]

fibonnacci is 8 dollars and rare, and only good early game
4 fingers is a waste of a spot if you have a good straight/flush build

[opaque willow]

+3 hand size, -1 Discard

[thick sky]

fib is uncommon tf?

[winter ice]

fib is "only" $7 iirc

[thick sky]

fifth fongors is hella strong for straight AND flushes what are you on rn lol

[blissful vortex]

I meant rare as in hard to find, I should have said scarce

[fallen bobcat]

four fingers can make ||flush houses|| a lil easier, one of them can be off color

[candid furnace]

Fib is just a worse even steven but it's still good

[thick sky]

same with straight flushes but for straights or flushes

[blissful vortex]

true, but I feel like the only time you go for those is when you have a tarot/tarot adderas to do it

[winter ice]

i put four fingers in A only because it enables straight flush builds super easily

[candid furnace]

wait nvm it buffs aces

[opaque willow]

Fib + A2345 straights is fun

[thick sky]

fifth fongors go crazy even tho it doesnt seem like it

[indigo lark]

probably +3 hand size, -1 hand | cuz juggler used to be just +1 hand size

[candid furnace]

Four fingers makes my brain hurt

[winter ice]

hot take: people are (slightly) undervaluing Dagger

[candid furnace]

That is most certainly a hot take

[thick sky]

doubt its only good synergy is

e g g

and polys ig but polys are good

[indigo lark]

me when mystic summit exsists and can top dagger in most cases

[fallen bobcat]

for me Dagger is in D since in the demo at least it's only viable with egg, the rest don't give enough mult unless you have a lot of money

[winter ice]

it takes work to stack, but can pop off if you're careful

even without egg

20+ mult

[thick sky]

i have a hotter take: astronemer worst util joker and worst uncommon

[candid furnace]

It's such a huge money sink and doesn't give anywhere the mult it really should for the input required...

[frosty spade]

banana stocks are back up ✊

[thick sky]

no

no they arent

[candid furnace]

YES THEY ARE

[winter ice]

banana in s lmao

[fallen bobcat]

bro said "hot take" and then delivered one of the most common statements in this server lmao

[thick sky]

tell that to the nine people that put it in C fsr

and the one goober that shoved it in S lmaoooo

[winter ice]

oh hey, odd todd is in A. didn't think many people liked chips jokers

[frosty spade]

🤨

[winter ice]

TIP THE SCALES

[thick sky]

f-

[winter ice]

WHAT WILL YOU CHOOSE

[candid furnace]

It's just... fine tho. Not great, but it's still a minimum of $2 every blind

[thick sky]

i put naner in C cry abt it :trollface:

[indigo lark]

im looking at the 90 joker list

[frosty spade]

GROS MICHEL FOREVER

[indigo lark]

it still has no synergy in full release

besides egg

[winter ice]

i am an agent of chaos. i put scholar in B

[thick sky]

scholar in A for me

[fallen bobcat]

i put Michel in B but he should have gone in A

[opaque willow]

does egg even count as synergy

[fallen bobcat]

i apologize

[opaque willow]

it only synergizes with Dagger once you yeet it

[frosty spade]

scholar in A because A is for Aces

[thick sky]

my favorite strategy is melting the icecream and making it give me 0 chips

[winter ice]

B for banana

[thick sky]

and not selling it because im stubborn

[indigo lark]

yeah

[fallen bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[opaque willow]

exactly my reasoning

[fallen bobcat]

damn, no gifs? cringe

[opaque willow]

cringle

[worthy crater]

My list

Cartomancer supremacy

[thick sky]

cartomancer op

frfrfr

[candid furnace]

I've talked some shit, so here's my terrible list

[fallen bobcat]

ONE OF US

[thick sky]

why the hell are you people shoving burgler in S

[opaque willow]

If Hiker was +2 how much higher would it be

[frosty spade]

seeing the no-embed gif with "gigachad-chad-gif" is really funny though so consider doing it on purpose as a bit in the future

[thick sky]

marble is not D

[winter ice]

you have done the illegal

🚨

[granite granite]

what's that

[thick sky]

omg wtf

[blissful vortex]

D

[indigo lark]

not very as its still 5 antes

[tribal bridge]

I also put marble in D

WTF do I even do with it, it fills my deck with bad stuff

[winter ice]

marble underrated :(

[indigo lark]

hikers good in a endless scenario

[thick sky]

reposting my list for more criticism

[worthy crater]

I put marble in C just because it's the easiest way to get stone

[frosty spade]

SO true bestie

[fallen bobcat]

hiker is fun with gold seals and mid with anything else

[tribal bridge]

Stone is bad though

[candid furnace]

I tend to only use it in high card builds, which are usually already pretty bad to begin with

[worthy crater]

GOLDEN in S???

[opaque willow]

honestly fair

[granite granite]

i like marble a lot but it is b tier

[thick sky]

stone is decent when it comes to half joker and stuff

[thick sky]

high card most op wym

[worthy crater]

Burglar is a lot better for money making than golden

[thick sky]

yes

[worthy crater]

As is business card

[thick sky]

cry golden is by far the easiest to make money with

[candid furnace]

I have had a serious and continuous lapse in judgement

[indigo lark]

u gotta mix it with a high card or pair build

[worthy crater]

You can't blueprint golden

[thick sky]

business card is ew goofy poopy rng

[fallen bobcat]

lucky cards

[opaque willow]

how do you figure? it at most gives $3 per round

[indigo lark]

chad

[thick sky]

y e s

[worthy crater]

It carried my ace high straight run

[winter ice]

try playing without full house and flush, it'll change your life ;)

[thick sky]

😐

[tribal bridge]

Neverrrrrr

I usually do straights or full house or flush house

[granite granite]

the 4 fingers marble joker slush enjoyer

[thick sky]

imagine using todo list to make money

[wary thicket]

My list

[tribal bridge]

Rarely deviate from those 3

[worthy crater]

Yeah yeah the demo hates face card builds

[thick sky]

the ultimate chad gamer move

[fallen bobcat]

superposition + blueprint carried my ace-high straight run

[worthy crater]

To do list is still D

[indigo lark]

dead ass all it would have to do is remove the chance it bumpos from D to A

[thick sky]

fr

[winter ice]

surprising the community puts scary face in B

[tribal bridge]

I put scary face in D, personally

[thick sky]

its only +20

[worthy crater]

You have never felt the satisfaction of getting $10 from it

[candid furnace]

It's a free 100 chips what

[thick sky]

i put it at A only because im a golden decker

[tribal bridge]

Just...no face card synergy, plus it's not even many chips

[indigo lark]

cuz its a chance :3

[winter ice]

what deck are you playing that is 100% face cards lmao

[tribal bridge]

Ok maybe it's not D, that was harsh
Probably C

[thick sky]

guys why are we even fightin about this the best strat is obviously dont buy jokers

[indigo lark]

oujia yellow deck

[worthy crater]

When we get Pareidolia and Sock n Buskin back, these things will be a lot better

[worthy crater]

Only buy stencil

[thick sky]

me pov:

[fallen bobcat]

i mean it's good but face cards are not a good synergy in the demo since one boss is guaranteed to shut down your strategy

[candid furnace]

wym do tarot not exist or smth

[grizzled locust]

i have the worst opinions lol

[thick sky]

the fact that people believe stencil isnt S kinda cwazi

[winter ice]

oh the tier list doesn't auto update

gotta refresh page

[grizzled locust]

i put it at a

[winter ice]

unless im missing something

dagger moved to C :O

[fallen bobcat]

it's been auto-updating for me

[wary thicket]

for me stencil is free x2

[worthy crater]

They're just crying over their missing joker slot

[winter ice]

banana moved to C D:

[indigo lark]

btw thank u thunk for setting this up, goat

[thick sky]

carto supremacy

[wary thicket]

usually having 3 other jokers is enough

[tribal bridge]

How the fuck is constallation in S
I don't get it
It takes soooo long to get to +10 mult

[fallen bobcat]

LET'S GO

[worthy crater]

Banana is worse abstract joker

[indigo lark]

real

[winter ice]

nvm refreshing took me back to my tier list

[worthy crater]

And people use abstract joker a LOT

[candid furnace]

Hot take: I don't like boss effects on cards. Just shuts down different strats, and limits your builds in an unfun way

[opaque willow]

the final boss being Verdant is definitely coloring that

[thick sky]

me when carto orginally duped tarots:

[indigo lark]

u have never used a telescope voucher and it shows

[fallen bobcat]

constellation almost always gets me to at least x2 mult

[tribal bridge]

I do

[thick sky]

my point exactly

[blissful vortex]

@tender thistle this has been your best idea since creating this game

[worthy crater]

Perkeo

[chrome meteor]

flush joker seems low rated imo. easy +10 mult for a reliable hand

[candid furnace]

@tender thistle I second this

[thick sky]

sometimes i just hold stencil for verdant and only verdant

[thick sky]

i third this

[worthy crater]

Droll definitely bumps up a flush build

[wary thicket]

I’m surprised that michel is S but ice cream is B when they are very similar

[grizzled locust]

my list

[thick sky]

the amount of times ive gotten droll in the shop-

[worthy crater]

I'm sorry

[tribal bridge]

This one

[granite granite]

scary face is mostly bad because plant is guaranteed

[thick sky]

banana lover....

[tribal bridge]

Why is this one S tier

[worthy crater]

A S T R O N O M E R

[winter ice]

michel is in S because B A N A N A

[indigo lark]

i hate DNA alot but it is not D

[thick sky]

bro put astronomer in S

tf

[opaque willow]

good in abandoned deck

[worthy crater]

Can we all agree astronomer is D

[fallen bobcat]

bro is trolling so hard with that astronomer placement

[candid furnace]

Why do I see so many people putting supernova above bus wtf

[thick sky]

astronomer is M teir

[thick sky]

they dont used abandoned

[indigo lark]

its really good

[opaque willow]

abandoned deck = bus good
bus good = play a lot of hands
play a lot of hands = supernova good

[thick sky]

lets go blueprint stil has 100% S teir

[grizzled locust]

i use it really often bth

[worthy crater]

I put bus in A

[grizzled locust]

tbh

[fallen bobcat]

i play yellow deck usually, and most often use a face card flush house deck

[wary thicket]

supernova + constellation literally is the speedrunning meta

[granite granite]

the real crime is splash all the way up in c tier

[winter ice]

bus good = play any hand without faces for the mult

[indigo lark]

dawg i cant wait for brainstorm lol

[thick sky]

bro explained the laws of theromodynamics with a rogue gambling card game

[winter ice]

supernova good = you can only play 1 hand

[candid furnace]

Even before I started using abandoned, I used bus more in yellow deck over supernova. They're both good still, but supernova is def not better than bus

[worthy crater]

Bus only works if you get it early

[opaque willow]

isn't that true for almost every run?

[granite granite]

bus is bad because i can’t play royal flush

[wary thicket]

I feel that a lot of builds are like this though

[opaque willow]

1 or 2 good hands

[grizzled locust]

it is to me tbh

[thick sky]

fair but supernova doesnt have that bruh frick im a dumb idiot for playing this moment

[thick sky]

^^

[worthy crater]

But supernova only works if you only play 1 hand type

[fallen bobcat]

don't most runs only play 1 hand type mostly though?

[indigo lark]

dont remind me 🥶

[thick sky]

i did 😨

[candid furnace]

Supernova really does start working against itself after some time. Bus doesn't have that issue, you can still just play worse high card hands, unlike supernova where you're forced to play good hands you're prepping for verdant

[opaque willow]

supernova works if you pick it up at the end of the run, but bus doesn't

[fallen bobcat]

again, pretty sure most runs rely on one hand type

[sour ore]

supernova and bus are probably both equal tbh, they give you the same gameplay loop basically

[thick sky]

wait do yall prefer splash over stone cards

[worthy crater]

Not the wheel crashing my bus by making me play a flush instead of a high card

[sour ore]

and are good under the same conditions

get it early, follow the rule, win the game

[indigo lark]

this

their pros and cons of each weigh out to them being equal

[thick sky]

stone cards better frfr

[wary thicket]

imo bus is slightly more situational than supernova, but that’s probably more from my own gameplay experience

[candid furnace]

I can easily get 40+ mult with bus, but only can get 25 or so with supernova

[opaque willow]

I think bus is better than supernova but supernova is also super good

[indigo lark]

fr, we are the supernova stans

[thick sky]

me when carto is consider A from most of you

[worthy crater]

FISH REACT THEM

[thick sky]

FISH REACTION

[fallen bobcat]

i think they're about even tbh but I play way too much yellow deck and so my opinions are tainted

[grizzled locust]

ride the bus is D for me

[thick sky]

okay no one laugh but i always thought the jokers had tiny bodies

[indigo lark]

WHAT

[candid furnace]

WHAT

[thick sky]

red decker

😐

[fallen bobcat]

oh like Colonel Sanders

[sour ore]

okay while we're all sharing different opinions about bus vs nova, we can all agree this is wrong

lmaoo

[worthy crater]

If you put ride the bus any lower than B I'll lose my bus licence

[candid furnace]

EVEN MORE WHAT

[thick sky]

lol yeah i thought the buret thing was a body

bus and nova both bad ||cry abt it||

[candid furnace]

Bus mad DNA burglar are not D

[fallen bobcat]

most of this I agree with except for bus, DNA, egg, burglar, to-do list, the straight joker and ok actually you're just wrong

[thick sky]

burglar is pretty situational ngl

[tender thistle]

Anyone having issues with the link on mobile?

[sour ore]

bus and nova are both game winning jokers 🤷‍♂️

[candid furnace]

Yeah, but it's a free $3 if you use it right

[wary thicket]

Worked perfectly for me on mobile

[thick sky]

its t h r e e d o l l a

who cares abt t h r e e d o l l a when u running yellow

[indigo lark]

works for me iphone 13

[thick sky]

what they said

[candid furnace]

Abandoned deck users rn: ;-;

[thick sky]

red deck users rn

[fallen bobcat]

i think the thing for me why burglar is better than golden joker is that burglar works with blueprint

[candid furnace]

blank image

[indigo lark]

i still gotta set a record in one of our catgorys with red deck for hell of it

[winter ice]

burglar has a lot of good interactions

[thick sky]

wtf is does?

[winter ice]

money, blueprint, bus, supernova, discard tag (it works!), etc.

[thick sky]

so what you get 6 hands?

[opaque willow]

and some bad ones

[winter ice]

since when

[opaque willow]

burglar is pretty alright

[candid furnace]

I was a burglar supporter, and I never knew this

[fallen bobcat]

burglar also negates a boss

[opaque willow]

2 bosses

[thick sky]

hot take: smeared is the worst rare

[sour ore]

crazy

[thick sky]

crazy? i was crazy once, they put me in a roo-

[wary thicket]

What are your thoughts on banner vs mystic summit? I kinda feel that banner is underrated and summit is slightly overrated

[fallen bobcat]

smeared is the most situational yeah, but I think most of the time it's arguably better than DNA

[thick sky]

banner becomes trash during water

[candid furnace]

Crazy is common?

[worthy crater]

Summit is pretty good, banner is pretty bad but not terrible

[indigo lark]

bigger hands want summit as they are going to have higher chips anyways

[worthy crater]

Zany, crazy, droll and mad are all common

[sour ore]

tbh i think dna is the worst rare

[thick sky]

crazy? i was crazy onc-

[indigo lark]

agree

[candid furnace]

You take that back. It carries foak builds

[wary thicket]

imo it depends on the kind of build
If you’re doing an anything goes or small hand build then banner is probably better, if you are setting up high-scoring hands then summit is

[worthy crater]

DNA is certainly a bit annoying if you have no good cards to copy

[thick sky]

so you think smeared is the worst?

[wary thicket]

As a speedrunner I’m kinda biased towards banner tbh

[sour ore]

i think dna helps you get crazy scores

[thick sky]

tbh yeah no dna is prolly worse

[sour ore]

but it doesn't make me go "oh sick my run is saved"

[worthy crater]

Smeared defines the run

[fallen bobcat]

smeared carries slush and flouse builds

[thick sky]

guys todo list is S teir trust me yesyes

[candid furnace]

And smeared does?

[opal oar]

Hi folks, heres my tier list as a 30 hour Baladdict

[fallen bobcat]

smeared is more run-defining than DNA

[thick sky]

heheha i sell smeared whenever i get it because i dont like it

[sour ore]

yes absolutely

[thick sky]

banana lover and average cartoer lol

[opal oar]

Yes

[sour ore]

i mean not if you already have a winning setup

[opal oar]

Join #1165796081209188372

[thick sky]

i will not-

[opal oar]

You cannot resist

[thick sky]

8ball in A kinda cwazi

[thick sky]

i sure can-

[opal oar]

Its not as consistent as Golden Joker econ wise

[fallen bobcat]

i can accept Cartomancer ending up in A tier

[opal oar]

Golden Joker I can always rely on

to get me to 25 for that max interest

[thick sky]

why did u shove carto below 8ball 😭

my feelings are forever hurt now

[candid furnace]

I don't think smeared is bad, but it plays a role the same way that four fingers or juggler does. It offers consistency over points. And when you don't rake in enough points per hand, consistency doesn't matter

[chrome meteor]

yeah. yellow deck is so fun with it. buying out the shop nearly every time

[opal oar]

All my rankings within each tier are equal good

[sour ore]

in a game where a little bit of bad luck ends your run, consistency is the most important thing

[thick sky]

me when i never buy hone/reroll surplus/wasteful

[sour ore]

and flush builds are very easy to make good

[thick sky]

i played a king on accident, the bus should be deleted honk honk

imagine deleting buses with a king

[steady nimbus]

I am proud we all agree Blueprint is S

[thick sky]

fr 32 on S 100% on S

[opal oar]

I think the Joker with a hole in it that gives x2 Mult is the worst of the x2 Mult Jokers

[sour ore]

the only downside to a flush build is the lack of consistency, which 4 fingers and smeared joker both give you, but smeared is better because it revolves purely around the flush

[opal oar]

because less Jokers is less fun :<

[steady nimbus]

Verdant leaf,

It pops off then

[thick sky]

fair but its still S (also your talking abt stencil)

[candid furnace]

And DNA doesn't give consistency? fishing for an ace foak will usually carry you through the first half of the game, while smeared doesn't do anything for your points

[thick sky]

i always find blackboard harder to proc over stencils viability

[fast aurora]

not if you get a stupid amount of tarots

and a polychrome loyalty card also helps

[chrome meteor]

that was until I got negative stencil joker in shop

[thick sky]

fifth fongors

[candid furnace]

I always thought of flush builds as the easiest to pivot into

[sour ore]

being able to play a flush every single hand = points

[thick sky]

fifth fongors superiority

[fallen bobcat]

DNA is in the dusk camp for me, where it's good for getting high scores but never really carries a run

[opal oar]

I gotta say it looking fine when its negative

[sour ore]

DNA also costs a hand to play

[opal oar]

here's the S cards so far

[sour ore]

and it requires a lot of wasted hands to actually scale to the point of creating value

[thick sky]

agreeable of all of these

[sour ore]

AND you have to get it early enough

[opal oar]

Supernova got my Flush deck to win after nearly a whole game of weak Jokers

[candid furnace]

A flush gives you 1/4 of the points that a foak gives, and usually takes up all of your hands, while foak will usually win in one hand

[thick sky]

stop talking about dna over smeared lmao

we get it

[winter ice]

ayo banana just moved to B

[thick sky]

YES

[candid furnace]

WHO DARES

[thick sky]

B for BANANA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[opal oar]

Here's the Banana polls

[sour ore]

yeah which is my point really. DNA doesn't help you win, it just gets you crazy numbers

[thick sky]

i shoved naner in c

[opal oar]

Kudos to the 10 people who know Gross Michael is S

[chrome meteor]

im surprised the +2 cards is s tier. its not particularly essential for a win

[fast aurora]

crazy numbers are a good thing

[thick sky]

carto deserves over gross bananas

[sour ore]

flush builds give you plenty of points to win all antes

[fast aurora]

consistency

[thick sky]

your potassium is stinky ngl

[opal oar]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-undertale-deltarune-chapter2-chapter2-kris-get-the-banana-gif-23225451

[thick sky]

banana goes extinct (real)

[thick sky]

embed fail momen

[lean gorge]

yea I put DNA in A tier, it can absolutely define a run but it's quite risky and needs to come very early to be that good

[thick sky]

surprised yall put loyality at B

loyality is a solid A ngl

[opal oar]

here's my worst joker rankings

[winter ice]

loyalty

D TIER

[thick sky]

half in c is wild ngl

[candid furnace]

It gives you crazy numbers early, which allows for a run to form. Smeared starts struggling relatively early in comparison if the planets don't align

[opal oar]

Scary face and dagger are tied for coolest designs as the worst joker

[thick sky]

not pog

[opal oar]

Its only good early game

[thick sky]

not really, 3oak scales decently

or high card with stones

if your desperate

[candid furnace]

It would be an A for me if the second boss didn't body it

[thick sky]

oh comn its 2nd boss, its only running 1.6k

even the squiggly banana could handle 1.6k

[winter ice]

loyalty card would be A tier for me if it actually let me redeem free irl food once in a while

[lean gorge]

wow you guys put superposition in D? I've had it put in work, it's super wonky but it seems leagues better than everything else in D

[candid furnace]

Don't you dare talk down to banana

[fallen bobcat]

if you can't get 1600 points with like a decent couple flushes that's a skill issue

[thick sky]

i will

[opal oar]

this just appeared in my first shop

[thick sky]

||cry about it im a naner hater||

[opal oar]

so I didnt take it

[thick sky]

venus sounds like kenos

defintiely

[candid furnace]

Completely agree, but it doesn't help how it's early game usage is hampered for a roadblock right where it should be useful

[thick sky]

half is 15x yall underrating as hell

lvl 2 toak is already 50x7

[winter ice]

wait no it's 50x5

[thick sky]

what i meant lol

i forgor

[lean gorge]

yea I use half joker pretty frequently, I ended up putting it in A but B would maybe be more fair

[winter ice]

50x7 would be pretty pog ngl

[thick sky]

50x7 is straight lvl2 iirc

[winter ice]

ah yes

maybe

[thick sky]

blueprint still 100% S teir les go

[winter ice]

actually i think it's 60x7

[thick sky]

yuh

but 3oak 50x5

50x20

so its witterally base 1000

no extra multis or chips

half joker go crazy

[lean gorge]

what I really wanna know is where this crowd of raised fist enjoyers came from, I find it super annoying and not that great

I guess it's really good with high card?

[thick sky]

dunno but B is fair enough ngl

buh why was this actually like funny and stuff lmao

[winter ice]

raised fist can go kinda hard, but only if you have control over your remaining hand

imo 20 max mult for the work isn't much better than a 10-15 mult with less conditions

[thick sky]

ig

3oaK builds my favorite ngl

anyways imma leave

[candid furnace]

cya, hope you have a good one

[lean gorge]

I feel like only high card gives you that much agency over which cards you'll have left, if you're running straight/flush/5oak forget about it

[winter ice]

yeah the only low hands pretty much

[candid furnace]

I mean, in the space where you do have control over your hand then blackboard goes way better

[winter ice]

i wish the live tiermaker would order cards within tiers based on how close on the vote they are to moving to another tier

[candid furnace]

That'd be epic

[fast aurora]

incorrect

[frosty spade]

no more banana stocks 😔

[winter ice]

it's only 5 away

it could happen

[frosty spade]

one can dream....

[opal oar]

These are the jokers that helped me win the run I had JUST NOW

[winter ice]

is that a negative gold?

[opal oar]

Yes

The fact these Jokers helped me win just now reinforces my rankings

[candid furnace]

banana

[opal oar]

Yes

Banana S tier

[frosty spade]

true

[candid furnace]

Banana best

Banana strongest there is

[winter ice]

both bus and nova have been kicked out of S

[indigo lark]

:(

[prisma dome]

nova is back

banana in B tier smh

[heavy river]

Rate my tierlist

[candid furnace]

Banana in D TIER?!?!?!

[winter ice]

splash in A lmao

i approve of the blackboard in S 👍

why's burglar in D tho

[frosty spade]

banana stocks have never been lower :(

[plush moss]

this is my list but there's Too Many at S

[winter ice]

you just like things :)

[heavy river]

Oh its good?

[lament tendon]

this might be the most a community has agreed on anything

[jaunty wolf]

well I accidentally make Business Card A tier so whoopsies for me on the poll vote
did fix it afterward but this is my list anyway

[blazing kernel]

a bit weird contributing to Demo rankings, since many of these would change going into ante 10 runs. tried to be as objective as i can. also would prefer 6+ tiers, too many ended in B. (bus is also in B, i fat fingered)

[plush moss]

superposition's an easy D cause like

not only does it require a specific build, AND a specific setup,

but it's pretty much overshadowed by 8 ball, requiring only two 8s

[jaunty wolf]

I think lots of B is pretty good since it follows the normal distribution bell curve

[fallen bobcat]

Superposition would be a lot better if it gave a planet AND a tarot, not one or the other

That, or allowing wraparound straights

[plush moss]

yeah

[jaunty wolf]

tbf like the theme of Superposition is great but the efforts are not worth it

still think it is one of the most clever theme cards in the demo tbh

[tender thistle]

My biggest shocks here so far are probably:

• Banana down in B despite the cult following
• Juggler in S despite no pure score bonus
• Cartomancer in A

[blazing kernel]

Cartomancer is nice, “free tarots = good”

[plush moss]

cartomancer's an easy S tier tbh

tarot cards are really really good

blueprint + cartomancer's also yummy

[frosty spade]

juggler and cartomancer are both no-effort for a decent bonus

theyre nice

[jaunty wolf]

my experience:

• Banana is chancy. You risk the chance of extinction so sometimes it may not be worth it if rng unfavors you
• Juggler makes everything more viable. Boring but practical options
• Cartomancer is basically buying 1 arcana booster pack at the start of every round. More random but card is still card

[tender thistle]

Cartomancer being A is also related to both 8 ball and Superposition being lower than I thought they would be

And Banana is just good vibes

It'd get S votes with a 0 mult

[blazing kernel]

I was mostly surprised by (some) people voting Hiker D and Burglar S

[jaunty wolf]

me same

[tender thistle]

Burglar has the widest range it looks like

[plush moss]

you might think that Burglar's good cause it lets you play more hands

but the true use for burglar

is giving you a chance for +3 more money per round

more hands = more money

[fallen bobcat]

This is a Cartomancer appreciation zone

[ionic relic]

Only ordered by letter, not reordered within their groups.

[indigo lark]

Superposition is probably mu least used card in this game

i dont think its any good as cartomancer tops it as its unlikely that you'll get a the combo u need for it once let alone getting it twice that would make it "better" than cartomancer

[granite granite]

compared to 8ball it’s way way harder to pull off and only pays out (i assume) half the time

[karmic ermine]

the banana is just simply a meme, nothing more ig

[prisma dome]

who the hell put stencil in D

[karmic ermine]

wait someone literally put stencil in D

damn

I really don't wanna question their playstyle

[winter ice]

well, thunk said vote by any criteria you want

[tender thistle]

Oh my, Bus in S

[winter ice]

🚍

[karmic ermine]

i mean its pretty cracked when you get it early on

most preferrably ante 1

[tender thistle]

I was 100% certain the debate would just be around what the correct voting criteria should be, and since there are so many perspectives here I feel like that's not possible

A community ranking should also represent many perspectives of what 'good' and 'bad' are for a Joker imo

[opal oar]

S is the Jokers with the fewest reasons not to take

the lower the ranks you go, the more reasons you need to have to take

for example, the moment I see Blueprint I press the buy button like its second nature

[blazing kernel]

its usually not hard to differentiate some "obvious" good and bad. you can argue about econ things, playstyle things. but things that are free and doesnt require you to do anything will be usually higher

[opal oar]

Meanwhile if I see Ceremonial Dagger, I think about how the game gives you unplayable art pieces in the shop sometimes, admire the art, and ignore the fact that it has a buy button when you click it

[blazing kernel]

also specifically for bus, i really suspect that its mainly due to the limitation of the chosen decks for demo. i doubt it would be in S in current state, if abandoned deck would be not there. demo things really limit the perspective

[frosty spade]

dusk is a pretty good example of that i think

fairly even over the ranks compared to other jokers so far

its 100% necessary for the gamebreaking highscores in the demo, but otherwise not very useful

[viscid dagger]

XD

[lament tendon]

as someone who put stencil in B, needing 2 slots is not great imo

i've played bus with yellow deck, it still works.

scary face on the other hand is badly hurt by the plant, if that didn't appear every game i'd consider face card builds more.

[karmic ermine]

being able to cheese verdant leaf:

(unless you're somehow broke)

[tranquil matrix]

glad everyone agrees superposition sucks
sad to see the hiker disbelievers tho

[prisma dome]

sad to see the people still believing in that shit card

sorry for the bluntness

[tranquil matrix]

uncalled for and couch potato pilled

hiker is kino

[prisma dome]

nuh uh

[tranquil matrix]

yes he is

lol

[prisma dome]

please explain

[tranquil matrix]

he is not very good but he isn't d
splash and hiker is fun and pretty viable if you get them relatively early and juice your rounds

i put him in C

but S for fun for sure

[prisma dome]

ok then

we shall go our separate ways on opinion

[tranquil matrix]

only cards truly worth being in d are superposition and planetomancer imo

[prisma dome]

planetomancer 😆

I’m going to start calling it that now lol

[tranquil matrix]

lol this is my contribution to balatro

[plush moss]

I think thats what it should be

Planetomancer nets you one planet card for free at the start of each round

while also making planets in the shop free

I feel like it'd improve it

Sure constellation still exists and would be like 😍 at the thought

But it'd make the joker very much good and viable

mostly.

Could do the alternative for Cartomancer

make it the same as planetomancer but for tarots (give 1 tarot for free + free tarots in shop)

[indigo lark]

honestly a pretty good idea

i would just say nerf constellation after that to maybe x.075

to give astroneer the best synergy with that aswell as have telescope strats at the same time

would probably be busted in full release tho as observatory voucher (the upgraded telescope) gives u a planet pack upon entering the shop

[tender thistle]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[indigo lark]

ooooo, much better

[prisma dome]

someone put banner in S

may god help them

[granite granite]

it kinda makes an S shape 😁

jimbo kinda makes an A shape

[placid oar]

ya yeet

[hidden turret]

heres mine, probably a few weird ones due to my massive straight bias

[placid oar]

banana at B?

[spare kite]

how do i undo or move an option, i misclicked

[grizzled locust]

ye

[steady nimbus]

Who is the one person who put blueprint in B?

[winter ice]

what a joker they are

[left rampart]

I mostly did it by vibes

I put Dusk too low in hindsight, it's the same tier as Loyalty Card (can save a borderline run)

[fleet canyon]

im of the opinion golden joker is s tier

[left rampart]

golden joker is extremely good but it's not run-defining

[steady nimbus]

I put scholar in S. I have had so many runs be based of it

[teal roost]

My list

[small oriole]

Finally a person that puts splash in S

What the heck why is everyone putting it on C/D 🤣

[teal roost]

The card's just not that good, specially with how it does nothing in most meta strategies

Doing nothing in 5oak, flush or full house means the majority of runs don't use it, and using it in 4oak is really really bad compared to what else you could be doing with that joker slot

[steady nimbus]

Yea, I don’t normally take Splash

[teal roost]

In builds with 4 or more cards it's useless or neglectible, and in builds with 3 or less cards it conflicts with shredded joker, which is the biggest reason to even go for these builds

[unkempt creek]

my list

[brisk crag]

DNA and smeared in S 🤢🤢

[young cairn]

who else voted S for the +4 mult joker

I did

[tranquil matrix]

dna is easy S
smeared is high A imo

[young cairn]

both high a imo

[tranquil matrix]

dna is probably the second or third best S behind blueprint and maybe constellation

[young cairn]

I don’t need card dupe that often

I won’t take bus early on even on abanoned because I never farmed anything successfully

it just doesn’t scale that fast

[tranquil matrix]

you don't need it but what it can offer for a run is huge
especially since its one of the only synergies with deck card editions

bus is just boring but it is S imo
maybe like the actual top of A

[young cairn]

bboard is middle A for me

I like spamming The World so I can proc it easily

[tranquil matrix]

bboard isn't bad but definitely has a limit to its usefulness like stencil
just takes a lot more alteration to get there

so i put it in A

[young cairn]

I feel like to do list is probably low A or high B

[tranquil matrix]

to do list sucks i put it in C i think

you get hard blocked by straight flush and i swear it gives it to me as the second hand each time lol

[young cairn]

I have much better luck

Also procing once and selling

is still net profit

provided you didn’t need the slot for smth else

[tranquil matrix]

golden joker is just a free to do list each blind
and most blinds you can usually only proc to do list once before you have to start focusing on chips

[young cairn]

I once procced it 2 times a blind

the other time 3 times and I still won the blind

golden is def. super though

[tranquil matrix]

to do list is great if you can afford to burn thru all your hands for money
but at that point your deck is so strong why do you need the money? its purpose is a little bit self defeating unless you get lucky, which isn't a bad thing

[young cairn]

not S tier

just super

mid-low A ig

[tranquil matrix]

i like to see how much the community loves a basic joker like juggler lol

juggler is really really good for a common

[young cairn]

based

basically luck boost

[tranquil matrix]

and pretty much necessary if you take a lot of spectrals

[young cairn]

oh yea

buffs effectiveness of all card spectrals 2

[tranquil matrix]

i think it'd be cool to add an edition that gives +1 hand size

[young cairn]

Burglar would be somewhere around A for me

You can BP it at round start to get free hands

and it’s a free sell at leaf

otherwise just generally buffs your income slightly

I dunno about you but

4 fingers seem pretty bad to me

Usually if I’m on a flush run I would never lack that last card

I also don’t have the luck to go full straight flush

I guess it’s good for straight and sf runs

I find straights too bad though

there’s runner sure

and superpos

and the new ver buf

but…

[winter ice]

do you know the four fingers trick for straight flushes?

[young cairn]

yea

[winter ice]

ok

[young cairn]

Straights just seem too inconsistent to me

even with fingers

because there isn’t an easy way to buff the luck with tarots

unlike flushes where you spam suitconv

or house/oak builds where death/strength helps

[steady nimbus]

I like smeared for either straight flush or flush house builds, it lets me take either one of the 2 tarots that are black instead of just one

[echo gorge]

I am super surprised to see Supernova in S rank! How are people using it?

[frozen ingot]

After this Blueprint is getting hard nerfed and ruined dagger is gonna get hard buffed

[frozen ingot]

yep same, its ight A maybe definately not S

[steady nimbus]

Idk, but I suppose if you only play one hand type, you can really build it,

[young cairn]

I imagine bp burglar bus would be insane

but I never had the combo

[young cairn]

then you’re really easy to otk blinds

because you probably buffed the hand real hard

[echo gorge]

It seems to me that Supernova can maybe get up to x15 at the very end of a run if you really focus on it, but cards like Even Steven and Fibonacci can get there far more easily

[steady nimbus]

haha yea, I love 5oak builds with aces and ouija

[frozen ingot]

Why is splash not in D tier, can someone explain please, Ive never used it properly part of a build so yea

[steady nimbus]

splash can sorta clutch out if you absolutely need to,

[young cairn]

high card/pair/3oak builds and you don’t see stone cards for some reason I guess

immediate D for me though

[echo gorge]

If you only play one hand, then it's likely getting you out in 1-2 turns per blind, preventing Supernova from climbing. If you're playing lots of hands per blind, it's likely that they're a bunch of different hand types, again keeping Supernova from getting good.

[echo gorge]

I'm with you on this one, Splash is terrible

[young cairn]

yeah it’s terrible

[steady nimbus]

i love how Almost everyone put blueprint in S

[frozen ingot]

That 1 guy who put it in B tier

[young cairn]

Most of the builds(flush house, straight, sf, flush, house, flouse) use 5 cards alr

[echo gorge]

I'm not saying this is how Supernova actually works. I'm saying this is how I think it works, and I'm implicitly asking how so many other people are getting real value out of it.

[steady nimbus]

I guess if you’re going a high card strat you can get a lot of them like building up the multi for the bus

I never take it so idk

[young cairn]

they probably get daily white whale

[young cairn]

I was just randomly scrolling and found this claim

[steady nimbus]

Ig Supernova and Bus are two ends of a spectrum, you want bus early and supernova late?

[young cairn]

yup I think

[steady nimbus]

yea you can build bus us really early but you can’t really with supernova

[young cairn]

nova applies retroactively I think

[frozen ingot]

I honestly feel like super-postion gets too much hate

its a C tier for me

[echo gorge]

It's a powerful effect, but it's so difficult to proc

[young cairn]

Idk about superpos because I don’t do straights often

but when I do do straights

[steady nimbus]

And you need either AKQJ10 or 5432A

[young cairn]

I can proc superpos every round

at least once

I can consistently get an ace low straight every round

[frozen ingot]

Its worse than 8 ball and the one that instantly gives you one on the blind no doubt but its not as bad as the ones in D tier, its still usable no?

[frozen ingot]

Same

[echo gorge]

I put it in D tier because I very rarely go for straights

[young cairn]

I rarely go straights too

but I tried it once

was a good experience

so med B

[echo gorge]

I usually do horrible, horrible things to my deck to get 5oaks and full houses

[echo gorge]

(also I am gay)

[young cairn]

for example?

I just take hanged man and the world at every single possible opportunity

[echo gorge]

(I make this joke to myself almost every time I play Balatro lol)

[young cairn]

even when it will obviously not benefit me

like me doing a 5oak deck

and converting things to spades

[echo gorge]

I love love love Oijua. It's practically an instant win as far as I'm concerned

[young cairn]

I don’t like the inconsistency tbh

I don’t like 5oaks other than 5 Aces

I feel they’re a bit underwhelming

[echo gorge]

But getting 5 or 6 copies of one card is enough to get me focusing on my build

[young cairn]

5 aces does have insane scholar combo

scholar is Extra High A or S for me btw

[echo gorge]

Big disagree. Supporting 5oaks with Fibonacci, Even Steven or Odd Todd gives insane results regardless of which rank Oijua gives me

[frozen ingot]

What does oijua do again?

[young cairn]

5 todds… I don’t think it’s that good

there’s a good chance the resulting is odd or will not proc fib

[young cairn]

-1 handsz, turn all into same rank

[echo gorge]

So I like to get as much mileage as I can out of my first Spectral pack, then use Strength, Death, Hanged Man and DNA to grow further in the direction the Spectral put me in

[young cairn]

I just generally dislike spectral packs due to the inconsistency

I usually get terrible RNG in spectrals

[young cairn]

I usually have like half my deck spades alr

then get spectral hearts

[echo gorge]

I think Spectral packs are best early game, when you can respond to what they give you and build off of them

[young cairn]

I only get them mostly late game though sad

[frozen ingot]

Once I was playing abondoned deck, got really lucky with bus and oijua turned everything into Jacks

[young cairn]

whoops

[frozen ingot]

agreed

[young cairn]

agreed

wraith is also much more takeable early on

not so much of an impact, plus rare jkrs let you cost through the early antes

provided you don’t get bp and nothing to copy

[frozen ingot]

I spent $56 on wraith once to get blueprint it was worth

[young cairn]

and can’t get money to afford anything

[echo gorge]

I deliberately spend almost all my money before getting a Spectral just in case it has a Wraith lol

[young cairn]

like spending them on packs or the ripoff button right

[frozen ingot]

Learnt to do that

[echo gorge]

Honestly sounds like a good time lol

[echo gorge]

Yep

[young cairn]

the ripoff button is the one that geta more and more expensive
and makes you feel less and less lucky

a.k.a. reroll

[echo gorge]

Finally someone said it!

I have so many rounds where I roll into the 4th ante with $50 and a build that just needs one more joker to pop off, but a couple dozen rerolls later I get past the Plant, all I could find were a couple planets and an Hierophant, and I go up in flames in Verdant Leaf

[young cairn]

It’s such a ripoff that you probably can’t even see every joker once with $999

[barren moat]

Rerolls don’t really feel fun at the moment starting at 5$ imo

Very situational

[young cairn]

yeah

the reroll voucher is uhh

if you need it you’re wasting money

[barren moat]

An interesting voucher…

[young cairn]

because 10 rerolls is just

[echo gorge]

I had never thought about it like that before

You really do have to buy 7/10 rerolls before it saves you any money at all, huh?

That's terrible

[young cairn]

all vouchers are really expensive tbh

crystal ball might be a bit justified if emperor and prietess gave you up to 3 tarots/planets, idk

[steady nimbus]

I just spend all my rerolls to find a dud joker

Right before the final fight

i look for an easy sell so I don’t have to debate which one to lose

[young cairn]

grabber gives some extra money to reduce its effective price

[steady nimbus]

overstocked is very nice

[young cairn]

agreed

[steady nimbus]

Ok now we need tarot, spectral, and Voucher tier list

[young cairn]

I think icely once commented “I can spend money to have the priviledge to spend more money, nice idea”

[steady nimbus]

Not planets cause they all can just help constellation,

[young cairn]

and depend greatly on the hand you’re comfortable with playing

[steady nimbus]

yea, like I grab earth and Planet X a lot

[young cairn]

Used to get earth and jupi a lot

now I usually get jupiter and X

sometimes Earth still

because it does help pre-5oak setup complete

and just generally for house runs

[steady nimbus]

yea, whenever I get a planet pack I hope for what I am going for

[young cairn]

do you usually get telescope

[barren moat]

I never buy crystal ball tbh

Might be the worst voucher to me, I don’t ever really have a use for it

[young cairn]

me too actually

[brisk crag]

DNA is easily C tier, mayybbbeee B tier

If you're going for wins

If you're going for high score shenanigans sure duplicating your poly glass cards is nice

But for consistent winstreaks I would almost never take DNA

[young cairn]

I would rarely take DNA but

I'll at least put it in B and feel justified

[steady nimbus]

I either never have the money or another hand is my most played

[young cairn]

same lol

[barren moat]

I play heavy into monohand so its almost always a buy from me if i have the money

[gloomy wind]

I'm not a big fan of DNA as it can cause bloat if you arnt removing enough, making those extra cards seem harder to even get if you wernt removing without it

[plush moss]

this tier list thing should be done for planets and tarots too

not because it's necessary

but because i wanna see how many S votes jupiter gets

big boy

[opal oar]

My prediction: Jupiter and Ceres are S tier

[tranquil matrix]

dna is easy S
its a free death card each blind, costs only one hand, and has synergy with basically any build you're currently running and unlocks new builds
only downside is bloat

[opal oar]

Planet X is A-B

Pluto is B

[tranquil matrix]

neptune ⛔

[barren moat]

I love DNA I don’t think I would say it’s S but it’s at least high B more likely A

Also bloat of what you want isn’t realllyyy bloat to me

[tranquil matrix]

bloating the deck is still a problem
you're more likely to pull your desired card but if you don't have any hanged mans or spectral burns a 60+ card deck can get dicey to win with

[plush moss]

pluto may be B but my heart still instapicks pluto on sight

i love the little guy

uranus insta D tier tho For Sure

[steady nimbus]

Okay we need to get a tier list for the other things

[frosty spade]

Blueprint isn’t 100% S anymore lmao

It has a single vote for B tier

[tranquil matrix]

b for blueprint 📘

[brisk crag]

🅱️NA

[hybrid wagon]

Okay how is smeared joker s tier c'mon. B tier at most imo. I personally think smeared is worse that 4fingies and that card is uncommon.

[plush moss]

makes straight flushes 50% easier

makes flushes 50% easier

makes flush house 100% easier

4 fingers + smeared joker = awesome

[hybrid wagon]

as I see it 1 suit tarot can make flush houses available

[steady nimbus]

agreed

[plush moss]

you'd need multiple. remember you're only changing 3 cards in a 50+ cards deck

30+ if you're running abandoned deck

and it has to be THAT suit too

[hybrid wagon]

ok, this is definetly biased due to me only using abandon deck but yeah 1 suit tarot can make you have a flush house

[plush moss]

while if you had smeared joker it can be either that one or the alternative

smeared joker is just very good in general

[hybrid wagon]

the gripe I have is that smeared joker is a rare that takes up a slot which can be completely pointless if you change your deck using tarots

[plush moss]

sure if you're aiming for straights, high cards or 5oaks it doesn't matter much

[hybrid wagon]

and I guess that shows how I like to play

[plush moss]

but for builds that contain flush it's huge

[plush moss]

I had a case myself where I had a lot of hearts through tarots and took smeared joker to the end with a flush build

so I got cocky and sold it

drew all the hearts at the end (and died)

[hybrid wagon]

were the hands not scoring enough or did you not get the hearts quick enough?

[plush moss]

latter

but if i had kept smeared joker i wouldn't have had that problem

[hybrid wagon]

maybe I am too abandon deck blind because I usually get flush houses after like 2 suit tarots

so then my joker slots can go to buffing them

but I can see that I would be harder with the 8 extra cards that don't match the suit

okay one more hot take for me to give, why is ice cream A-tier?

I see it as similar to banana just more consistent, a decent boost that goes away eventually. Nice in the early game but not anything crazy

like odd todd can give the same boost if you build your deck around odds

[plush moss]

there's your answer

"if you build your deck around odds"

ice cream can just run with any deck no matter the build

and until it reaches 50 chips it's overall pretty neat

the worst build for ice cream is one that consists of high cards and even then it's not entirely awful

i've had it melt a couple times

[hybrid wagon]

I feel like the best builds for ice cream would be ones that have 1 big winning hand as that would minimize melting.

ice cream definitely isn't bad though

[south stone]

Did the thing. Forgot what some of them did, had to look them up.

Was a pretty cool thing.

[hasty trench]

Who's the mf that voted B on Blueprint

[karmic ermine]

hopefully they were doing it for the lolz tbh

because I dunno why you would not vote S for blueprint

[blissful vortex]

doesnt work on egg