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#Experimental Deck Peek
weak hawk
high
somber smelt
I'd just like to remind everyone - please don't discuss exploits here. There is a line just make sure it isn't crossed, it's in the server rules
jaunty star
what is the line đ
somber smelt
This is kind of on the bug side of the line right now and Shadow has been helping me fix that
weak hawk
i set it to off and restarted the game, the sticker is there!
dusty willow
im still confused about what you mean by not discussing exploits, could you please explain it to me?
somber smelt
i set it to off and restarted the game, the sticker is there!
What about on medium?
weak hawk
ill check
long crypt
thank you for letting me be a nusance
sudden relic
also cannot reproduce it with the new patch. But i am no expert with that bug, so it doesn't mean much ^^
somber smelt
im still confused about what you mean by not discussing exploits, could you plea...
Anything that might be illegal or against the spirit of the demo
weak hawk
medium is still there, im gonna set to high and restart again
jaunty star
so embedded content is a no
somber smelt
I can't be super specific but basically just be mindful of anything I might not appreciate being shared or discussed
weak hawk
aaand its gone! so its an issue with high
long crypt
ill try the same thing on the new version in a bit
somber smelt
aaand its gone! so its an issue with high
I'm going to just remove high
weak hawk
lmao okay
jaunty star
bomb the issue
weak hawk
thatd do it
jaunty star
nuke it
somber smelt
You actually can't tell a difference anyway
weak hawk
yeah i cant tell tbh
somber smelt
It basically reloads the textures at super high res but medium is more than high res enough
weak hawk
medium will be the new high đȘ
jaunty star
but the textures are intentionally pixelated
normal sun
some people may find it jarring to the eyes
somber smelt
When they are at a non 0 degree angle, the antialiasing is a little weird if you don't use high res textures
normal sun
i've had that experience with similar things in the past, although this one is fine for me
somber smelt
That is what the setting represents
weak hawk
oh hey my screen resolution setting is normal now too
somber smelt
The 'jittery' pixel art when you have it set to off goes away when you put it to medium
weak hawk
it used to have like 20 digits after the decimal
long crypt
give me 10 minutes
I failed D;
somber smelt
Undocumented bug fix
weak hawk
nice
weak hawk
why was high smoothing killing the stickers though?
long crypt
0.9.0p right?
somber smelt
As of 0.9.0p (assuming this one is fixed) I don't think there are any more reproducible huge bugs, but please take that as a challenge
somber smelt
why was high smoothing killing the stickers though?
Too much loaded into memory I think
Theyre reeeaaally big textures
weak hawk
inch resting
weak hawk
nah you gotta beat 'em
long crypt
no you have to win
normal sun
every joker is discovered upon buying them win or lose lol
also anything that isn't a boss blind
somber smelt
Okay lots of participation trophies in Balatro
long crypt
true, but not if you dont buy them
normal sun
you can buy them and savescum to get your money back while still discovering them
long crypt
true
somber smelt
you can buy them and savescum to get your money back while still discovering the...
Do you?
long crypt
also Im trying to get to ante 7 and its failing so maybe new update makes it impossible
normal sun
i did with the astronomer because it was the last one and i genuinely believed i'd never unironically buy it
somber smelt
The venn diagram of people that do savescumming and people that are working on their collection seems like it doesn't overlap much
long crypt
also Im trying to get to ante 7 and its failing so maybe new update makes it imp...
I just failed
nvm
jaunty star
Okay lots of participation trophies in Balatro
same with tarots, instant 3 dollar unlock
long crypt
You patched the bug also for the mouth
time to spend another day of my life exploiting the game
to get to ante 7 once
I could have maybe gotten to ante 8 đ
and may be able to still
somber smelt
and may be able to still
in 0.9.0p?
long crypt
maybe not
long crypt
in 0.9.0p?
I did it once with The Hook but it didnt work as good so I looked past it but maybe that was just the auto clicker messing up
fast ironBOT
shadow_bulb1 has been warned
long crypt
what did I say?
dumb?
what...
MEE6 has an out for me lol
does it tell the mods what I said that was bad
long crypt
Is there any way I can get the pre non-psychic bug patched version
analog lava
not unless you did this
long crypt
if you go in it should auto update
lime mauve
it has not
long crypt
then idk
long crypt
The venn diagram of people that do savescumming and people that are working on t...
Is it to much to ask for a private version of non-patched psychic glitch
I want to try and get ante 8
normal sun
did you update the game
long crypt
I exited out and it auto updates
nimble basin
the expirimental chnage to debuffed cards are intresting
long crypt
guess its a no
nimble basin
the visual one i think the blackboard chaange is great
i is now easier to identify the cards but but also i might be easier to play the card without realizing like in psychic but maybe not
jaunty star
The visual one?
I don't love the brightness on the cards personally
I feel like a middle ground could be best
normal sun
not sure if intentional, but saving and quitting in a shop while holding undiscovered jokers creates a little ? overlay on top of them
not sure if intended
but i could see it being so
nimble basin
hmm
somber smelt
not sure if intentional, but saving and quitting in a shop while holding undisco...
Are you in a seeded run?
somber smelt
It's a bug
long crypt
I tried every single version, hook bug was the psychic bug
somber smelt
but just wanted some context to recreate
waxen nest
I don't think playing full game content on the demo is exactly intended, even tho it's really funny and Majora's Mask level of jank
somber smelt
Please mind the server rules - namely #7
somber smelt
The bug was patched - I think we can move on. This experimental version is designed for a small group of users to test a buggier build for me to fix any issues
long crypt
yes maam/sir
normal sun
yes thunk
nimble basin
Mr.Local
it would be funny if i named myslef globalthunk with the fool reversed as my pfp
long crypt
lol
nimble basin
or globalthougt
lime mauve
it would be funny if i named myslef globalthunk with the fool reversed as my pfp
do a color-inverted fool
a negative fool, if you will
nimble basin
long crypt
lol
nimble basin
this is as far as i go
somber smelt
@long crypt was that bug report 0.9.0p?
somber smelt
The one you posted
long crypt
the one with ws_
somber smelt
Yes - I'd like to keep discussion around the issues and bugs in the current builds
long crypt
ok
knotty bobcat
You telling me the 22 times I used wheel of fortune and it was bugged the whole time -.-
jaunty star
You telling me the 22 times I used wheel of fortune and it was bugged the whole ...
no?
wasn't really bugged, just inconsistent with seeded runs
from what I can tell
jade panther
i ve gotten it to work like 4 times and ive only used it 20 times, maybe bad luck ig
somber urchin
this beta branch rocks
agile flame
atomic heron
got this error after trying to paste a seed
grave jolt
Debuffed cards arent greyed out properly? Was selecting a joker at the time the round started
lime mauve
that's intentional
grave jolt
ah
somber smelt
That was changed in a patch yesterday
lime mauve
greying out made it hard to tell the suit
somber smelt
So the deck preview is easier to distinguish
grave jolt
Gotcha, I didnt see that in the notes
ionic axle
To be completely honest I much preferred it with the greyed out as these cards donât feel as debuffed as they used to
grave jolt
It does look a little less downtrodden but reading the suits Was pretty hard with em all grey
also still cant find it in the patchnotes from yesterday or thread op lol đ„
jaunty star
I mentioned a while ago, but I feel like a middle ground grey works
somber smelt
There were no patchnotes for the patch yesterday
This is a form vs function issue I think
They are more functional now but don't feel as good
grave jolt
maybe if they were desaturated but not greyscale?
jaunty star
@somber smelt being able to see how much temperance is is so lovely, I feel like making all that work was a huge coding endeavor
long crypt
ikr!
jaunty star
Why doesn't flush house have the checkered background?
rare sluice
So I just did a run where I played a flush house in the 1st round of the 2nd ante, and despite buying plenty of planet packs, I never saw a ceres (the flush house planet). Is there a way to check to see if it was a bug or if I just saw a statistical anomaly? I didn't save a screenshot of the seed, so it might not be possible
dusty willow
i think abandoned deck should be unlocked very late for the main game. having 12 less cards in your deck and being able to ignore all face debuffs is very strong
long crypt
money also strong though
lime mauve
i mean abandoned deck probably won't be third
third and fourth will probably be green and blue
eager sleet
I just realized
the view deck thing already puts even more cheese on how piss easy the wheel can be
eager sleet
ever heard of âprocess of eliminationâ
eager sleet
true
eager sleet
oi @somber smelt
eager sleet
the view deck thing already puts even more cheese on how piss easy the wheel can...
your thoughts regarding this
analog lava
it accounts for that
eager sleet
wait really
jaunty star
the view deck thing already puts even more cheese on how piss easy the wheel can...
the wheel still fucks me over sometimes, the view deck thing does not help
it doesn't give you info you wouldn't have
somber smelt
long crypt
I just did a test
and it does account for that
but if you use sigil changing cards it will know what it is
jaunty star
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1116389027675906110/11584782299...
exactly!
jaunty star
Why doesn't flush house have the checkered background?
@somber smelt please respond đ„ș
nimble basin
new patch score
jaunty star
my bad for double ping local, forgot that replies do that đ
woeful raft
bug: switching between remaining and full deck causes cards to "dance" - I think their rotations are temporarily reset for a frame or two (on a 144Hz monitor)
somber smelt
bug: switching between remaining and full deck causes cards to "dance" - I think...
(it reloads the entire dang UI including all cards)
I'm a professional dev btw
woeful raft
re: deck preview, I tend to use it early on in runs (when it's more difficult to make a good hand), but later on (ante 3+?) I stop using it as my build is mostly locked in, and good hands can be consistenly made
I'm surprised I didn't use it that much later on - I felt like there was no need for it
analog lava
i felt the same way, later on you know what specific cards and hands you want
woeful raft
deck preview wasn't as min-maxy as I thought, except in earlier rounds
I agree that this is a neutral-to-positive change
other miscellaneous feedback:
- card stats are awesome
- stickers are cool
- they don't show up during runs - intentional? is it worth adding this as an option?
- "used this joker to win" may be a bit ambiguous. from what I can tell, it means "used to beat the final round", not "bought this in a winning run". however, that wording is very verbose đą - I think the current wording is nice and concise
woeful raft
I agree that this is a neutral-to-positive change
but, to be honest, I feel like the main benefit I got from this was being able to see a very quick preview of the deck (not necessarily cards remaining!). before this update, I used to go into "Run info" to check my deck very frequently to take a look at the suit / rank distribution, and having that be a hover away (in a very easy-to-read format!) was super useful
I feel like I played mostly the same as before, except with a bit more information
wicked wedge
Is the deck peek feature still in the experimental beta? Just got on for the first time in a couple weeks
wicked wedge
nvm, think I figured it out. experimental bit is over as I had the normal version in the main menu, not 0.9.0o
errant maple
only issues ive run into is not being able to select my deck with the regular controller navigation on steam deck. I have to use the analog sticks and move the cursor over to select different decks
somber smelt
only issues ive run into is not being able to select my deck with the regular co...
Right Trigger doesn't work?
errant maple
not on mine at least no. I can switch between the daily/continue tabs on top just fine but triggers dont do anything
so i post this and get white coat syndrome. dpad Navigation hasnt worked the past 3 or 4 sessions when trying to select my deck but just booted it back up now its fine. D pad works for deck selection.
dont mind me, must be pebcak
somber smelt
No I don't think it's pebcak, I think there might be some controller wonkiness with the deck preview
So even on reboot Right Trigger doesn't work?
errant maple
oh yea right trigger still does nothing for me.
right bumper does, dpad does. Nothing for trigger on deck select.
I think i should clarify though. On selecting between red/yellow/abandonded deck to start a run. not deck preview in the middle of a run. That works fine. Miscommunication on my part.
somber smelt
right bumper does, dpad does. Nothing for trigger on deck select.
I think i sho...
OH
Yeah trigger isn't supposed to do anything for those menus, right now triggers are only used to look at deck mid run
errant maple
yea thats my bad on that one. should have clarified more. Regular dpad navigation was giving me issues for deck selection on starting a new run.
dusty willow
@somber smelt i thought you said you changed/were going to change to do list to always change the poker hand needed for payout right
somber smelt
<@1116386306788970587> i thought you said you changed/were going to change to do...
Every time it pays out it should be a different poker hand yeah, is that not working?
dusty willow
doesn't look like it, i'll replay my seed and try and get a recording if i can
unrelated but golden seal flip animation looks a little bit goofy
not sure if its supposed to look like that
the continue from shop crash still exists, just not with packs this time
ok yep; i got a recording of it @somber smelt
dusty willow
also i think it would be great if this type of joker was more explicit in its wording/explained in the tutorial because it's quite counterintuitive that this would apply to four of a kind/five of a kind hands even though it does
long crypt
"+10 Mult if played hand has at least 3 of the same of a card"
dusty willow
even though it does say "contains" i believe a lot of people take it as "ONLY the three of a kind" hand (and this was my experience too)
i think it would be best explained in the tutorial instead of rewording all of them imo, crazy joker works on straight flushes
although tutorializing semi-edgecases probably isn't ideal
high minnow
It does exactly what it says on the label?
normal sun
it's easy to skim over. i don't remember if i did or not, but i could understand.
dusty willow
pretty sure it happened to aliensrock at some point
jaunty star
pretty sure it happened to aliensrock at some point
because Three Of A Kind is yellow was his reasoning
Did anyone find out if splash + superposition + four fingers gives you a tarot on 6 7 8 9 A
dusty willow
because Three Of A Kind is yellow was his reasoning
i don't think the reasoning of which people use to get to that conclusion really matters, even if its silly. any disambiguation you can add to a game 9/10 times is a good thing,
jaunty star
yeah for sure
"+10 mult if hand contains three cards of the same rank" works so much better
normal sun
Did anyone find out if splash + superposition + four fingers gives you a tarot o...
only if the Ace creates a flush. it has to be scored to count for superposition
oh splash. yes it works
jaunty star
oh splash. yes it works
craazy
frail socket
also i think it would be great if this type of joker was more explicit in its wo...
The card doesn't read "+10 mult if hand is 3 of a kind" so it seemed very clear that any hand with 3 of a kind in it, full house+ would be applicable
barren briar
Honestly, when I first read it, i also thought it meant it would only activate on 3oak
A good change would be to underline the word "contains" to make it more explicit
So people notice it instead of skimming over
sharp compass
nimble basin
thunk i think you have nailed the debuffed card look
nimble basin
but i think straight need a buff or more jokers (might be different but using straights is asking to lose a streak in the demo
nimble basin
what was the buff?
dusty willow
buff to the planet and the base chips i think
nimble basin
hmm
dusty willow
maybe just buff to the planet, i think they nerfed base flush chips
normal sun
flush chips were reduced by 5 but had mult increased to 4
and straights also had base mult increased to 4
so now it's possible to one-shot first blind with some full houses, straights, and flushes, so long as you have high enough cards for the remaining chips
dusty willow
uh oh
normal sun
that's no moon...
dusty willow
the moon tarot is in the shop
would this hand count for the "the hand must contain a flush" joker
normal sun
yes
nimble basin
one shots arent possible with abandoned straights but thats fine i think
nimble basin
if it had the same value of flush it could happen
normal sun
it being only 40 cards probably still makes it completely consistent tho
nimble basin
for flushes it can happen but its rare going for full houses are still easier in abandoned but the other decks are now more viable
a question for thunk
why the change to make randomly selected cards consistent it makes seeded runs less broken and doesnt really change regular runs
dusty willow
what is abandoned flush
abandoned deck
nevermind
i did make a list of what combinations work for full house on first blind
normal sun
uhhhhh abandoned flush is uhhh 5 cards with no suit? :)
dusty willow
full house
(2 cards, 3 cards)
3, 10
4, 9+
5, 9+
6, 8+
7, 8+
8, 7+
9, 6+
10, 5+
any 4 of a kind+ also wins
although you could just add to 35 instead of memorizing it
nimble basin
just in case other people who pop into the thread are confused 75x4 is the number to aim for so if you hand chips+card chips >= 75 then you one shot first blind with the higher base chip value full houses have alot of options and they are easier to draw into in abandoned
dusty willow
only straights starting with 8+ can one hand first blind
does dna work with psychic
long crypt
nope
dusty willow
sad