🕹・run-discussion

[swift pebble]

What do I put medium seal on?

[sly quarry]

A light colored suit, red or yellow

[marsh bridge]

dark suits are more likely to be valuable

• you already want more of them

[swift pebble]

Why are feel suits more valuable and why do I want medium on a red or yellow?

[still mango]

I don’t think dark suits are more valuable.
If you already have a joker that cares about one suit you should build towards that one, otherwise just pick one (usually whichever you have the most of)

[vocal swift]

have u tried the high contrast mode for card suit colours btw ?

[swift pebble]

I am guessing the best pick here is world?

since I have a spade mult joker

the others seem useless

heirophant seems like the only other option

or am I wrong?

[vocal swift]

hierophant might be good if you don't have hand leveles

[vocal swift]

but yeh it's between hiero chariot and world

ig chariot and world

[swift pebble]

is world less useful since I have smeared joker?

[still mango]

Kinda yes

[swift pebble]

fuck it

went with world

[still mango]

That’s fine

[swift pebble]

converted queen and the 10's to spades

and smeared joker became foil woo

this is one of if not the best joker I've unlocked so far

been trying to win with flush build since I bought this game 2 days ago

wait this boss says I can only play 1 hand

and need 11K

wtf how

YESS

got 15K in 1 shot

Which do I take?

I’m guessing hanged man and magician?

[ember stirrup]

sell all other jokers force ankh sixth sense?

😭

i wanna do it so bad

[still mango]

Double sixth sense doesn’t work

It only gives 1 spectral

[swift pebble]

What are the 2 best carrds here for my flush build?

[opaque crypt]

I'm guessing the destruction of the card prevents the second one?

just get all the xMults for a free win!

[dry hedge]

my best score at ante 4 damn

[dry hedge]

crazy build

[vocal swift]

yea that's it

[opaque crypt]

it's like vampire in that sense I guess

although in that case, two Vampires is still better than one

[vocal swift]

only one of them suck right

[opaque crypt]

yeah

one of the sucks, the other one has nothing to suck afterwards

[vocal swift]

how do u mean 2 being better than 1 then

[opaque crypt]

you can swap them around to scale them separately

past x4, two is better

[swift pebble]

#🕹・run-discussion message

What's the play?

[vocal swift]

true, but does take quite a while to get there

[opaque crypt]

I believe you can make the two suck at once by placing a midas in between the two vamps

suck, gold, suck

[swift pebble]

also should I reorder my jokers?

[vocal swift]

ooooh never thought of that, that is cool

a little circuit . . .

[opaque crypt]

tbf I did not test that

ouchie

although if the shop had econ, I would still take

[swift pebble]

If someone has a minute I'd appreciate some help

[opaque crypt]

about reordering, you don't need it, but you may need better scoring jokers if you want to win

and about the arcana pack, pick Temperance

[swift pebble]

What is the other pick?

[opaque crypt]

either Emperor for gambling or Hanged Man to destroy hearts or diamonds

[vocal swift]

i've been informed that unfortunately the 2nd vampire doesn't care . . . so the gold stay gold 💔

[ember stirrup]

oh cringe wtf

[opaque crypt]

that is kinda weird, I guess Midas triggers after any Vampire no matter their order

[vocal swift]

or maybe only 1 vampire can suck at a time

[opaque crypt]

nah they have no reason not to suck together when possible

[swift pebble]

I like these jokers which ones would I need to get rid of to win?

supernova giving me 25 mult so far on flush

[vocal swift]

cuz they do suck when it's midas, vampire orientation

which is why i wsa thinking maybe only 1 allowed

[opaque crypt]

hmm

it would have been really cool if vamp, midas, vamp worked

[vocal swift]

rather the sucking mechanic itself is probably only once per hand ? not sure

[vocal swift]

yeah

[topaz grail]

returned to balatro after 7 months and am weirdly proud of beating a red stake run

[swift pebble]

About to play boss need 40K and Hearts debuffed what do I buy?

I'm guessing both card packs

[topaz grail]

what does your deck look like

[topaz grail]

im gonna be entirely honest, idk, but you might want to aim for a hand with that 5 of diamonds. (maybe a full house so you could also use the spade joker?)

i just won my 4th ever run so do what you feel is right i'm not the BEST person to give you advice

[opaque crypt]

holy lucky cat build

Fibonacci + Chad carried the early game

while Chad scaled the lucky cat

I also built into 4oaK

funny thing is that I intended to make Erosion work somewhat but

it got to +16 in ante 7

lmfao

after I found the brainstorm

[swift pebble]

Are any of these worth taking over my current jokers ?

Got a flush build

The middle one re triggers face cards but is that better than smiley face?

[opaque crypt]

Sock and Buskin could work very well with your Smiley Face

[swift pebble]

is that the middle joker?

[opaque crypt]

yes

[swift pebble]

but what do I sell then?

golden?

[opaque crypt]

either that or Wrathful

[swift pebble]

wrathful is too good

[opaque crypt]

Sock and Buskin can replace your Wrathful by acting like an extra Smiley Face

[swift pebble]

but it's only face cards

[opaque crypt]

assuming Supernova is like 35+

[swift pebble]

while wrathful triggers all spades

[opaque crypt]

do you not have many of them

[swift pebble]

supernova is like 30 I think

[opaque crypt]

if you don't want to ditch Wrathful, try replacing Golden

[swift pebble]

golden is my only money mult right?

[opaque crypt]

just money

but you have interest money

just don't spend too much below 25$

[swift pebble]

hmm ok thanks

going to try to see if I can convert more of my deck to spades and faces

oh wow yeah sock is crazy

None of these are worth it right?

Making flush so easy now so being able to do it with 4 cards means nothing

Reserved is bad since I want to play my face cards

Hack might be good but it creates tension with sock

yup skipping

got spectral pack but I think both of these are bad

[vocal swift]

immolate's good for removing cards from your deck, helps you draw what you want more consistently. and also money on top of that

but if that's your only blue seal, maybe it is too risky

[digital grail]

And/or the only purple

[swift pebble]

got a royal flush woo

I think ectoplasm is the obvious choice

[bright cradle]

how did you get the foil

[swift pebble]

foil smeared?

[bright cradle]

yessir

[swift pebble]

I forgot but it was not foil when I got it

it became foil at some point

is ectoplasm worth it?

[bright cradle]

once is enough

anything that gives you something good in return for 1- hand size

you only do it once per run

no need for - 2 hand size

[swift pebble]

ok ante8 boss 300K blind to clear

what do I take here

just bought reroll joker since it was $1 cheaper than rerolling lol

do I reroll again and hope for a good 6th joker?

[bright cradle]

w negative

[swift pebble]

or do I buy the packs?

[swift pebble]

?

this joker on left seems bad since I have a spade flush build so I want to play them not keep them in hand

so I know obviously sell reroll joker but then what?

[vocal swift]

probably blackboard

[swift pebble]

what is that

the joker on left?

what benefit does this give me if I have a spade flush deck?

[vocal swift]

multiplies ur score by 3

[bright cradle]

W negative suk n bus

[vocal swift]

u play a 5 card flush with 7 hand size, so 2 remain in hand

since u have been playing spade flushes i assume u have converted a good bit of ur deck

[swift pebble]

ohhh

[vocal swift]

so good chance 2 remaining card in hand to be spades can be clubs too

[swift pebble]

ok got $27 isn't it pointless to hold onto it now that I'm at the final boss?

ante 8 is the end here right?

so shouldn't I spend the rest of this money?

[vocal swift]

yes u just spend it down

what i don't know is . . . if smeared joker treating them as both suits disqualifies them as 'black' cards because they are ALSO red cards . . . . 😨

assuming u have almost no red cards in deck u can just sell smeared tbh

[swift pebble]

I did have a blind that debuffed all hearts before so it also debuffed my diamonds I think

reroll or buy the packs?

[vocal swift]

wait yeh im stupid it cares about black cards the same way as smeared so blakcboard should be fine

[vocal swift]

yeh u can make blackboard work pretty easily

[swift pebble]

so buy the packs?

[vocal swift]

yea

[swift pebble]

YES

[swift pebble]

uses glass conversion and got 270K on 1 hand

[flint bridge]

any help with this run? i am trying to do baron mime for the first time but baron by itself is not very good

[swift pebble]

woo

won my first run

[vocal swift]

baron by itself can be good but you need some hand levels and several kings in hand

and red seals on your kings

[flint bridge]

okay thanks

[flint bridge]

should i get rid of any of my jokers? im kind of playing flushes only to score and baron is not doing much

[vocal swift]

while ur working to get ur baron setup online, u obviously need to stay alive

so u want to keep your alternate scoring methods

[swift pebble]

So is there some guide or something I could watch that will help take me from beginner to being able to win consistently regardless of what RNG gives me ?

I watched a couple beginner tutorials and it gave me basic ideas on what to look for but that’s it

[wooden zephyr]

looks inside

BULLS ARE BI 🗣️🔥

[deep notch]

relatable

[vocal swift]

yeh i recommend watching drspectred's videos on youtube !

[swift pebble]

Thanks

[flint bridge]

should i take fibonacci here? even though ive started deckfixing around straights?

[vocal swift]

what would u swap for it

[deep notch]

straights joker
lmao

[flint bridge]

straight joka

[vocal swift]

yes

[sour ledge]

Not sure how I thought this challenge would go but okay lol

[marsh bridge]

spades and clubs have more numerous and more powerful options than hearts and diamonds

with blackboard being the most notable of them

[cobalt mesa]

What to sell for blueprint cat is at 6.25 and most face cards are lucky

[vestal schooner]

do you need andy

[cobalt mesa]

Check deck size

[quiet carbon]

who goes?

[cobalt mesa]

I got the tophat and thought this would be an ok run to buy 20 cards in shop

To unlock the next voucher

[vestal schooner]

are you going for a high score or just beating ante 8? youre probably fine with your current setup to just win anyway

[cobalt mesa]

Statistically wouldn't selling chad give me more retrievers with five card hand? Oh yeah im def winning idk why im asking actually it's verdant leaf and I can just sell that nat neg I got lol

[quiet carbon]

?

[vestal schooner]

id skip the dna ngl

unless you have something good to copy

[quiet carbon]

golden ace

more money

i did that with one run and my economy was running smooth

does it worth it?

[flint bridge]

any tips for this 3oak run?

is red card completely useless?

[daring silo]

Midas mask or dna at ante 1 shop?

[flint bridge]

dna

is red card completely useless in this 3oak run?

[daring silo]

12 mult is worth less than the swashbuckler

[vocal swift]

no

[flint bridge]

even though im going for blind skips?

[vocal swift]

in that case

i dont think u need the $100

[flint bridge]

i just dont know if my 3oak run is sustainable

for ante 6+

[vocal swift]

so swap rebate for swashbuckler

[flint bridge]

okay thanks

and is half joker kind of obsolete now that its ante 4?

and maybe i can pivot to 4oak

and get rid of half joka

[vocal swift]

relax

[flint bridge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vocal swift]

where is all this coming from

[lapis cove]

half joker isnt obsolete on ante 4

[flint bridge]

my mind

since im deckfixing around aces

and planning for further antes after 8

[vocal swift]

i see

[flint bridge]

thoughts?

[vocal swift]

maybe someone else can help, i'm not very good at navigating antes after 8th

[flint bridge]

i just mean conceptually, i dont need the perfect advice

because im usually trying to play past ante 8 anyway

[flint bridge]

when does half joker become obsolete?

like ante 6?

[vocal swift]

it is not ante dependent

[flint bridge]

but i feel like 3oak is just a worse 4oak

[vocal swift]

it depends on what your goal is and what score you need for your goals. half joker can be relevant even in ante 8

[flint bridge]

i mean for e and things like that

and a very fixed deck

[vocal swift]

you don't need e for ante 8, so i'm not talking in that context

[south tangle]

Can anyone help me beat blue stake 😞

[flint bridge]

okey

[lapis cove]

you can take it to ante 8 gold stake just fine

also ofc 3oak is "worse" 4oak, 4oak requires more fixing

[vocal swift]

u want to unlock wee

so ur looking for a skip only run

where each hand ur scoring around 25,000 in the final round

[vocal swift]

u might be able to do this in ur current run who knows

as u havne't unlocked stuntman,

boots, bull, card sharp, half joker are all great for this

[flint bridge]

no ive unlocked all of those

but thank you

[crisp shadow]

me when the throwback

[flint bridge]

i think im going to pivot my entire run to kings and queens which might be crazy

[vocal swift]

its not crazy considering ur setup

[crisp shadow]

is that a photochad+ build

[vocal swift]

and this is perfect for all skips too

[flint bridge]

thanks!

should i try and go for the 12 rounds or less and the 18 rounds or less in the same run?

[vocal swift]

yeh

[marsh bridge]

get midas

it's extremely powerful this early

dna needs you to have something worth copying

[zinc apex]

Yes

[flint bridge]

should i still be using hang man? or is my deck too small

[tiny adder]

show jokers

[dry hedge]

first time doing a baron run is at good?

[swift pebble]

All cards are face joker or blue joker for flush build?

[deep notch]

good is subjective

[flint bridge]

can i clear this run with 4oak?

[weary oar]

Sell burnt for troub? I'm good in terms of scoring for the next few antes

And I don't think getting high card upgraded 12 times an ante by burnt Is that impactful anymore with it so high level already

Troub will be a big improvement for later

Plus if my kings aren't red seal they're blue

[swift pebble]

Got a flush build going what do I take?

Deck has more spades than any other suit

[weary oar]

Easier to turn a polychrome into a spade than it is to turn a spade into a polychrome

[swift pebble]

English please lol

I’m new

Just won my first run today bought the game 2 days ago

[weary oar]

Wait they're not polychrome that's just your monitor

Oh cool man

[swift pebble]

That’s my switch lol

Wish these were spades

[weary oar]

If no card is useful it doesn't hurt to skip. If cards don't fit your build but have a desirable modification on them you can always use tarot cards to turn them into what you want

[swift pebble]

But I’m asking are any of these useful?

Still hard for me to judge power levels

[weary oar]

Not really. Maybe the purple seal

[swift pebble]

I have 1 purple seal already

So I should take this one too?

[weary oar]

If a chance at more tarot cards at the cost of maybe not flopping your winning hand is worth to you

I wouldn't take it since you don't have many spades anyways

[swift pebble]

As you can see in the pic above

[molten perch]

Tho it's not my strategy, I came seeing this

[flint bridge]

why are these scores different?

am i stupid

[deep notch]

one is your score and one is "score at least this much"?

[sour ledge]

Somehow, suddenly, my trib build that was one-shotting loses.

[hard osprey]

michel's gonna die on the big blind of ante 8, isn't he? i think it's the longest living michel i've ever seen, he's been with me from ante 2 🤣

[sour ledge]

Teke oops

[hard osprey]

hehe

[sour ledge]

it'll maek go bleh~ x3

[hard osprey]

i would but i have no lucky cards

[sour ledge]

Then maek some

:3

You should have some already

[hard osprey]

nope...

oh!

i got one!

well, that's not enough, also i have holo so they'll be delluted anyway

whew, he just popped, let's see i can live through this

[weary oar]

Name something more satisfying

Than this screen

Btw my run was about to end, I didn't have any more money to reroll for serpent but it just so happened that the big blinds skip tag gave me money for each hand played. Got an extra 173 dollars that got me that last serpent

[hard osprey]

i think this might be a strong contender (round 1 lucky card)

[deep notch]

extra set of vouchers

i win, trust

[weary oar]

Dangit

I don't like the playing cards voucher

Clutters up my shop

[deep notch]

it's great for seance

[weary oar]

I want temperance not useless cards

Seance?

Oh right

[weary oar]

I just found out today that a lucky card can hit both effects in one trigger

[hard osprey]

that didn't happen, but i got +20 mult from the first, and 20 dollars from the second.

i didn't really need mult, but hey

[ember stirrup]

chat

how can i make this go crazy

i need red seal and some way to copy

[hard osprey]

i think you need chips otherwise you might just die

[ember stirrup]

nvm i lost it

[hard osprey]

also monies

[ember stirrup]

HAHA

yea i literally got mid game shit with no early scaling

unfort

[quiet carbon]

[slim musk]

does anyone know which direction this build is going

yes i know i took the court but lowk i think its not that bad

[azure glen]

I’ve been doing a ton of naneinf runs recently, but most of my runs due to ectoplasm. I feel like it’s luck based on whether I can get it or not. The ethereal tag is usually a pass for me because I usually take the voucher skip is this a bad play?

[digital mauve]

NANINF EVERY ROUND, still havent found any neg skips.. :(((((((((((

[azure glen]

Where r ur joker slots coming from?

[digital mauve]

im pretty sure its a older version

[severe ginkgo]

i got bored

[rose thicket]

What happens during bean bug runs when you decide to not just skip when you can get to ante 39

[deep notch]

seance can be nice if you get the deckfixing correct but most people just do sixth sense
usually voucher skips are best yeah

[deep notch]

reroll gaming 🔥

[rose thicket]

seance is the goat for bean bug runs

[deep notch]

i concur

[rose thicket]

i legit have every common joker except chaos, and am getting $75k a round. I dunno if I take a negative showman when it inevitably appears, technically its non-optimal but it'd make this mess understandable

[deep notch]

-# i'm getting $168k per round qwq

[rose thicket]

you'd need like, what, twenty or so blueprints for that?

more? Less?

[rose thicket]

Oh did u do the bean bug multiple times?

Or just have a HECK of a single one

[deep notch]

troubador twice ante 8
then went into it with only baron and bean on ante 16
then hiero in ante 17 -> bean/baron again

and then those two

[rose thicket]

Oh dude thats sick, I'm on a dev path of steamodded cuz the current branch disable bean bug, and I can't use it multiple times or it crashes lmao

[deep notch]

(selling all non-negative jokers except bean on those two antes i screenshotted)

[rose thicket]

The 3 & 4x beans is dope tech

[deep notch]

almost 1k high card lol

[rose thicket]

Honestly I thought golden ticket was better, with saturn its def faster to calculate, but I can see how parking scales better

[deep notch]

golden ticket is faster, but parking+serpent,,,

-# also i'm not using mods qwq

[rose thicket]

like, at all? Raw dogging that 4x speed?

Have you been doing this run since 2014? That seems like a hand would take forever

[deep notch]

few weeks

[rose thicket]

respect

[deep notch]

takes close to 10 minutes a hand iirc

small portion of it:

[rose thicket]

a hand or a round lmao

[rose thicket]

wtf csh song is that, is that even from an album? is that from like the 1,2,3 albums?

[deep notch]

knife in the coffee, nervous young men (2013 album)

[deep notch]

hand
and i get 44 of them

10m/hand * 44 hands = 7.3 hours
help.

[rose thicket]

christ

[deep notch]

serpent lasts longer

[rose thicket]

i think all I've really absorbed from that album is afterglow

[deep notch]

there's some really good songs in there imo

afterglow is my favorite tho

[rose thicket]

ive been kinda dissapointed in his julian casablancas arc his new albums have been goin thru

[onyx coral]

Do i take bloodstone here?

[rose thicket]

show deck

[deep notch]

i still like Scholars tho

[onyx coral]

I passed the hearts boss

[deep notch]

depends if your flush levels are good i suppose

[rose thicket]

i mean hes ancient joker

just stick with that tbh

[onyx coral]

My flush level is at 1 lol

[deep notch]

[onyx coral]

that is true.

[rose thicket]

????

ante 6 ancient joker flush 1?

[onyx coral]

I had burnt joker + Brainstorm.

I had to sit on this one for a minute

thanks m8

[deep notch]

skip bloodstone ig

[onyx coral]

I won.

Banana had to perish.

[woeful cedar]

I buy the banana joker right before gold stake level 8 boss. I win. Banana self destructs. No gold stake chip for the banana joker, despite winning with it. I feel that should be patched. It's super lame if it self destructs and you literally have just won with it 😅

[modest rapids]

haven't played in a year, got a 2 pair build, and I see a foil hack, I'm scared bros

[swift pebble]

I’m new how do you get high scores with just 2 pair?

[marsh bridge]

you can sell loyalty for it

[marsh bridge]

by offloading your scoring to scaling jokers and blue seals

[cobalt sable]

I was about to ask how are you scoring untill I saw

[swift pebble]

So between red blue yellow green black and magic deck which is the best for flush builds ?

[cobalt sable]

None of them

Flush is not a good hand

If you want an answer tho

Red

Or yellow

[bright cradle]

yooo little jeff is keeping track of cards again

[sonic ice]

pretty fire synergy going here. super stoked to finally have canio + pareidolia combo going

just had triboulet but sold as not particularly helpful at the moment

[hard osprey]

duobledecker

vroom

[opaque crypt]

first gold stake win on yellow deck on PC(I have C+ on mobile)

(the money was from a skip with two double tags in ante 8 big blind)

[hard osprey]

oh, sorry, triple decker

probably not gonna vroom tho

[weary oar]

Excuse me

[hard osprey]

damn, I'd probably actually make it, but died to an eye

[opaque crypt]

this is probably easier than normal white stake

[digital mauve]

wut

[weary oar]

Modded or what lol

[next idol]

this is a funny run

[tight flint]

Having a crazy orange stake run rn

Double sock, double blueprint, trib, idol Chad and arrowhead

[scenic lodge]

fuck me ig.

In the credit card in pack we trust

[opal holly]

Hi veryone could i get some advice on this naninf run. Im missing blank voucher and antimatter, should I pick up the cola and sell a bs/bp? hand size is 14 thanks to crimson bean, max score with full red seal gold kings is e61 with 3 copy jokers. This is my first naninf attempt so im not sure if its easier to survive and pray for the vouchers or spam colas and showman the copy joker back later

[scenic lodge]

.

[empty sun]

I'm in a bit of a weird position.
I've been bouncing between Odd Todd & Aces alongside Trib. Then a free Sock popped up.
Do I pivot into faces or keep juggling the faces & aces together?

[slim birch]

if u have 14 hand size from crimson bean u dont need antimatter

since a 2nd ecto does the trick

so I would not sell anything

[slim birch]

if u want to make it deeper into endless take sock over todd

[brisk oriole]

Sometimes you just need to sacrifice

[opal holly]

the issue is i dont have omen globe either, so im not confident i can find a second ecto

[slim birch]

since your up 5 hand size than the default amount, u can live untill ante 25 where u can serpent farm

assuming u have recton

[opal holly]

i also dont have retcon

[slim birch]

have u got the tier one?

your best bet in this run is to keep these jokers up untill ante 25 and hope u get it, the cola is risky

and take any voucher skip u can

[opal holly]

yup

[opal holly]

okay thanks

[slim birch]

gl!

[tight flint]

Why does every good retrigger run I have end because I didn't pay attention to the boss blind 'til it's too late

The goad got me

I could've made it to ante 20 I think

[dry hedge]

UHHH

im cooked i guess

[green ingot]

Rare block attack sighting

[empty sun]

The pivot to faces worked out insanely. Finding Tarot Merchant immediately afyer commiting made it work.
Unfortunately all good things must come to an end ;-;
This is the highest I've ever gotten tho. NEW PB!

[mild rock]

kinda proud of this one

ante 1 Agate, it only had red stickers so I guess why the hell not, ante 2 constellation and a fortune teller carried the early to middle game, I got myself some nice club seals from standard packs, chips department was weak so I had to take th eeternal foil gift card which I mosly dont because I dont know what to do with it, then I did a planet skip to get myself 10 planet cards, moved the cons from 2.4 to x3.4 mult. Then I found a perishable The Duo (my goat) on Ante 6, so I did a few skips to just risk it all with it to Ante 8 boss, But on Ante 8 small blind I found Ramen (green stick) to replace fortune teller (gold) with, then I also found Glass tarot and sock, so I replaced The Duo with it and the rest was a breeze because Cerulean Bell hit my Jack when I could ship a Flush

Pretty profitable C++ progress, knowing there was no negative skip

oh and I also did 25 dollers skip at like ante 3 because I was short on money

[empty sun]

[swift pebble]

noooooooooo

deleted negative joker

didn't know I can't replace it

fuck

sold*

[deep notch]

@rose thicket it is apparently exactly 8:42 per hand, i just timed it

[flint bridge]

should i get tarot merchant here if i want baron + mime?

or is that a bad idea because it will make getting baron much harder

[timid zodiac]

the concept of negative gros michel was very funny to me, so funny that i locked out and it got killed by the sacrificial dagger before it could do anything

[flint bridge]

should i get tarot merchant here if i want baron + mime?
or is that a bad idea because it will make getting baron much harder

[deep notch]

i never take tarot merchant myself

[brisk oriole]

Then whom?

[woeful cedar]

It happened again! I'm legit cursed.

[flint bridge]

any tips for my baron mime attempt?

is sock and buskin useless

[deep notch]

it's useful for the photo but it should be the first joker to go rn

[flint bridge]

okay thanks

[flint bridge]

any jokers i kind of need besides blueprint / brainstorm?

and baron

[deep notch]

baron mime blueprint brainstorm, dna is usually next

[flint bridge]

okay ty

[flint bridge]

should i take hieroglyph for endless? or is it potentialyl bad

[deep notch]

-1 hand doesn't really do anything to you most of the time

so

why not

[flint bridge]

also maybe ill get a rare tag and get 20 free rare jokers, and then i can get baron and dna

[slate talon]

bro its round 1 come on

nvm

[cobalt sable]

That's why you shouldn't skip

[slate talon]

i skipped once man 😭

[haughty kestrel]

Before I also had negative andy

[vivid coral]

3oak was right there lmao

[cobalt sable]

It can kill you anyways

[slate talon]

nah it was worth the risk

[cobalt sable]

Seeing a shop less in ante one makes the game so much harder

[slate talon]

i did get blueprint round 1 for a moment but the boss was that one

[cobalt sable]

Except when you take investment

[cobalt sable]

Suit boss blinds don't matter like at all

[slate talon]

i couldnt play almost any hand

[cobalt sable]

Just don't play clubs

[slate talon]

it took me several discards to even get something like two pair

[slate talon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hamlet-drake-computers-laptop-800iiDTaNNFOwytONV

[vivid coral]

could've played a 3oak in that last image but whatever

[slate talon]

What is a soak

[vivid coral]

3 of a kind

[cobalt sable]

Just don't skip early

[haughty kestrel]

I can do naneinf?

[slate talon]

oh yeah no it wouldnt have mattered

i had no upgrades yet

[slate talon]

but it's risk free you just start over almost immediately if the rng sucks

[vivid coral]

30 (+12) * 3

[slate talon]

oh i thought its 20 * 3

[cobalt sable]

Not true

[slate talon]

wait what

[cobalt sable]

Just take anything, even a planet gets you past

[slate talon]

i dont see how this is related to what i said

[cobalt sable]

Oh, I read another thing

[slate talon]

skipping in ante 1 to get a rare joker at the start is risk free since you don't have to waste a run if you end up needing to restart

[cobalt sable]

Anyway, restarting won't help you to improve at the game

[vivid coral]

well there's perishable and eternal rental in orange/gold stake

[slate talon]

sometimes

[slate talon]

it's just the efficient play early on

[cobalt sable]

No?

[slate talon]

wait it isnt?

[cobalt sable]

No

[slate talon]

but why

[cobalt sable]

Too rng, a shop less could mean death, less econ and most of the time you get trash

Blueprint and brainstorm are trash as a first joker too

[slate talon]

i would say a rare joker ante 1 is better than any first shop with at most 7$

[cobalt sable]

No

[past current]

too tedious

my lazy ass could never

[slate talon]

that's at most getting to choose between 2 random jokers

or i guess 4 total with the 2 in the shop

[past current]

if you're resetting for investment then maybe

[cobalt sable]

Don't reset...

[past current]

but rare tag isnt worth the resetting

[past current]

ehh ppl like to reset for a better start

im too lazy to do it but i can see why ppl do

[slate talon]

yeah if you end up resetting after getting that first huge boost is followed by bad rng it's like 1 minute wasted in a game that can take hours total

[cobalt sable]

Yeah, but that's like, the worst thing to do if you want to improve

[slate talon]

i see improvement as learning how to play efficiently

you can still choose not to by not resetting

but it's not stopping me from improving

[cobalt sable]

If you are trying to get a good start that'll slow you down a lot

[slate talon]

it's one shop with 7$ dude

[cobalt sable]

Improving in Balatro it's taking whatever the game gives you and making it good

[slate talon]

i don't know what you think i'm doing in that one shop but it's at best buying one common joker

[cobalt sable]

Common jokers can be a lot stronger than rares

[slate talon]

both are random

[past current]

its just not fun resetting for that one rare joker or that one investment tag though

[slate talon]

getting to pick from 2-3 common jokers is below the average rare joker in value

[slate talon]

yeah but that's if you get unlucky

[cobalt sable]

No?

[slate talon]

you can usually get away with it in that situation

[slate talon]

i really do think it is

[cobalt sable]

Not really, two commons are so much better than a rare

[slate talon]

not two commons

picking one common out of 3

[cobalt sable]

If you don't skip you get to see two shops before the boss blind and those are two jokers right there, or a level

Or more money

[slate talon]

what no

[cobalt sable]

Significantly better than a rare

[slate talon]

i only missed one shop

that's one joker since it's the first one

the first one only gives you 3$

[cobalt sable]

More than enough

Anyways, you're still on purple I guessss I can pass on this one, just please, don't skip like that on orange or gold stake

[slate talon]

i mean you're free to prefer 3$ + shop with 7$ over a random rare joker but it's not some kind of obvious thing it's a very debatable opinion you're presenting

[cobalt sable]

You'll understand as soon as you get to gold stake

[slate talon]

too late i've done that on those as well 💔

[cobalt sable]

Bruhh

[slate talon]

yeah it's just too much value to pass up

to be fair it worked that time

[cobalt sable]

1 in 90 btw

[slate talon]

it depends on other variables

mostly what the boss modifier is

[cobalt sable]

No, there's only a few good early rares, and you can still get a perishable or rental

[slate talon]

i really don't agree

[cobalt sable]

If you depend on the rng that's like, really bad

[slate talon]

you can take risks in the first ante it really doesnt matter until you're somewhat further into the run

i'd rather have to take bigger risks earlier on so that if the whole game has worse rng later on i still have some leeway

[halcyon bone]

[cobalt sable]

Yeah, like you're getting one specific rare all the time ❤️‍🩹

[slate talon]

i mean you don't need a specific one a lot of them are good including early in general

[cobalt sable]

You usually want to play it safe on the first rounds since it's usually what determines the run

[slate talon]

i mean it depends on what playing it safe means

if you mean securing more value for later then yeah

if you mean surviving at all that's not what determines the later antes

[cobalt sable]

There's only five

[slate talon]

oh yeah i play with mods usually i forgot that there aren't a lot of them

i'm not playing modded balatro rn to make that clear tho

[cobalt sable]

The only good early rares are vagabond, ancient, burnt, stuntman and duo

And even like that, burnt and duo need external scoring

[somber escarp]

Thank you chicot ❤️‍🩹

[slate talon]

the other deck related ones are good early as well

i would say the majority of them are better than the average first shop in terms of the likelihood of surviving ante 1

[cobalt sable]

No?

[slate talon]

you're allowed to have that opinion but i strongly disagree

[cobalt sable]

Obelisk won't do anything, DNA doesn't score, Baseball card needs an uncommon, Baron needs a lot of deck fixing, invis, blueprint and brainstorm need another joker and with driver's liscence you're not getting 16 enhancements in ante 1

[ember stirrup]

out

should i swap this for anything? its good synergy with pairslop yeah?

[slate talon]

yeah thats some of them which give less buffs early on than others but all the deck related ones are already ~1/4 of the rares

[cobalt sable]

Trio, Order and Familly are inconsistent and hit the road too

Tribe it's the only exception but it's not worth for a five card hand

Campfire needs a lot of econ

[slate talon]

they're slightly inconsistent though i think they are already above the average 7$ shop is all

[cobalt sable]

Even jimbo is better 🥀

[slate talon]

jimbo is a really good one don't disrespect my boy like that

[cobalt sable]

+4 mult it's all you need to get past the boss blind

[ember stirrup]

whats the retrigger all face cards called?

forgor

[cobalt sable]

Sock

And buskin

[ember stirrup]

and buskin

yes

[slate talon]

yeah +4 mult early on is really good tho

[ember stirrup]

i rember

[cobalt sable]

Almost every common gives that or more

[slate talon]

no what a lot of them are also inconsistent or situational as hell

they all give more mult in specific situations

[cobalt sable]

Not really, they're cheap and worth picking up

[slate talon]

in the long term yeah

[cobalt sable]

Really easy situations btw

[slate talon]

yeah i consider three of a kind an easy situation too

[cobalt sable]

Really inconsistent with -1 discard

If you don't win in one hand you're almost dead

[real prism]

do i need double sock?

im trying to get hanging chad rn, i alr saw chad in an early ante and didnt take it bc it was bait

[strange rivet]

Sell show

[cobalt sable]

Sell duo

[strange rivet]

Yeah do that actually

[real prism]

Well too late LOL

[ember stirrup]

buskin or dna?

[strange rivet]

Buskin

[lusty star]

I have a plant coming up would stencil save me?

[vestal schooner]

how soon is the plant?

[lusty star]

next round

[vestal schooner]

will just a heart flush not just win?

oh i thought you had dice

nvm

getting a glass card wouldve been ideal but idk if you can at this point

[lusty star]

I have one glass 2

with +50 chips thing

[vestal schooner]

thatll likely be enough if youve been scoring enough

thats bascially a facecard with photo

[lusty star]

if it appears

[vestal schooner]

oh yeah

[lusty star]

RIP

its over

[swift pebble]

is hiker good?

[cobalt sable]

It's really weak

[vestal schooner]

it can be alright on plasma deck with retriggers

[hearty mango]

Just won Erratic Deck Gold Stake. 5299V7QM

Blueprint, Canio, Burglar, Negative Even Steven, Half, Brainstorm, Negative Pareidolia

[torn solar]

Judge my jokers

[swift pebble]

should I buy banana and sell foil hiker?

doing flush build

mostly spade

[vestal schooner]

thats a crazy setup

[swift pebble]

crazy?

bad?

[vestal schooner]

banana instead of the hiker is good

[swift pebble]

I'm still new

would it be dumb to sell hiker since it's foil

[small gate]

Not bad

[vestal schooner]

i think the 15 mult is worth it since you already have a lot of ways to get chips with scholar and foil smily face

[swift pebble]

yeah banana always been good

Do I sell something for sock?

[hearty mango]

Rate the joker setup

[frank valve]

Bro I had this the other day (Blueprint, Canio, Pareidolia) with a Photo but I literally didn't find a single hanged man or get a single glass break until I could barely get past the blinds

Luckily I got a trading card and it was a great run but

[swift pebble]

With this I win my second run

I used 3 wheel of fortunes in a row and they all didn’t work

[frank valve]

You'll be using 15 in a row without a single one hitting in no time!

[gusty coral]

the play is to just go full on photochad right

[hearty mango]

Got up to x10 Mult on Canio

Didn't even need Pareidolia as it was Erratic that started with 11 kings

[opaque vale]

Is it rebate or dna for baron

rebate gives $400 per round but DNA gives better scoring and a bit of econ with mime

[sour ledge]

I've learned you don't need DNA till ante 4

24*

Or- at least been told

I can't get lucky enough to get runs like this

[opaque vale]

yeah but ive had too many runs where i just cant roll into it

[sour ledge]

Trust me

with that money

and the right set-up

you SHOULD

be able to

Have you a blank voucher?

[opaque vale]

also doesnt feel lucky with these vouchers and no blank or retcon

[sour ledge]

Take EVERY voucher

[opaque vale]

i cant bring myself to take magic trick

[sour ledge]

Then it can show up again.

Listen

I have not ONCE

Gotten a run this good.

In 250 or so hours

So please

do me a favour

Watch some guides

AND TAKE EVERY VOUCHER

:3

This run has NANEINF potential.

[opaque vale]

Yeah thats the goal, last run died because i couldnt find burglar with ~3k because of magic trick clogging the shops

[sour ledge]

I can't even break $500

so please

don't fumble this

My runs never get this lcuky.

lucky*

[opaque vale]

yeah i hard greeded for econ early which set everything up nicely but so many runs have just died because of magic trick

[frank valve]

yeah mine was like X19 or smth crazy but gold stake endless scaling got to me pretty quickly

I'd like to think that if I found any hanged mans it wouldve made a difference but probably not

[frank valve]

I play yellow deck just to buy it so I can unlock the voucher that takes buying 20 playing cards and then I'm never touching it again

[slate talon]

i swear i tried to go for jokers that would give me mult im so dead 😭

[sour ledge]

Why is halfsies ther- oh. eternal.

[frank valve]

I had a very nice run once where I was playing flush five Jack of Hearts and I got back to back Plant and Head boss blinds and Luchador saved me both times so I now have a natural positive reaction to seeing Luchador

which I choose to believe is a fully unique experience

(having a positive reaction to Luchador)

[frank valve]

I dont think you need rebate no more bro

[opaque vale]

yeah but the next part of the run is pretty expensive

rebate gives me $400 per round and i still need a showman and a bp/bs after i get blank and antimatter

but also if i drop rebate i can take a second ecto which is pretty nice

[fossil flower]

Eternal constellation first shop is a take right

[timber willow]

chat what do i do here, im playing high card face cards rn and the deck fixing is lowkey horrendous im ngl

[deep notch]

If you're just trying to win then take cavendish over showman
If you're trying to go a little bit into endless and don't care about going particularly super far then take DNA over cavendish
I would just go next

[cobalt mesa]

New highscore :D

Ignore the deck size

[fossil flower]

My half baked 3 of a kind build that only works if you have blue seals

could have been pair too

I was going for two pairs

But no pants

So I chose a challenge and went with 3 of a kind

[gusty coral]

Replace impervious for dna i guess its not really needed and find blueprint /brainstorm

Copy glass and try to find red seal

[timber willow]

so update, i ran into leaf but luckifly found the sell joker thingy

[gusty coral]

3x mult doesnt help that much get smth better try to atleast

[timber willow]

i got rid of showman n dusk for cavendish + dna then had to sell a cavendish for boss blind then picked up license then got rid of cavendish for sumo or wtv the joker is and now im looking for bnetter jokers

but ive literally found straight trash

[timber willow]

its the best thing ive found

welp i lost

[next topaz]

dump baron here?

[flint bridge]

should i replace lucky or cavendish for hiker?

[elder widget]

what should i do 😭

[frozen escarp]

TWO PAIR!

[elder widget]

🔥

[frozen escarp]

YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

[flint bridge]

any tips on how i can improve my flush five run?

im scoring so low!

or are these jokers just not that good on ante 10

[swift pebble]

photograph or baseball card?

[frank valve]

They can be good, depends how scaled they are

[frank valve]

Baseball, photo comes back around

[gusty ridge]

😭

[cedar plover]

"OH no, I won"

[tired mango]

How my run died:

[tawdry karma]

At least parei isn't eternal

[shadow crest]

every time

[green wave]

chat do i take gros michel and replace either smeared, wrath, space, blue foil joker, supernova, misprint? (supernova is 45x mult on flush and my flush is lvl 15)

[green wave]

the ONE time photograph sucsk

[keen sable]

replace misprint prob

[swift pebble]

Smiley face or pareidolia?

[green wave]

beat black deck finally

yippers

[neon kestrel]

oh

skip

[shadow crest]

[vocal swift]

no . ..

world 💔

[neon kestrel]

correct!

but consider it's funnier to full skip

[bright cradle]

time to count all of the jokers

[misty lichen]

I’m pretty sure it’s baron on the left while scoring and then move mime over for gold cards right? I’ve seen lots of people do it but never had this run myself

[half oyster]

two blueprints copying baron for score, all the copy jokers on mime for money

[misty lichen]

Ok perfect. So like mime, blueprint, blueprint, baron, brainstorm. Then you shift it to all hit mime

I might have to slow down the game speed to make sure I can move it in time since I’m on controller lol. But should be fine

Thanks

[half oyster]

yup

[agile girder]

It hurts to not take souls

but ill lose if i take it

at least i got +3 mult

[gusty coral]

show your deck

[gusty coral]

as long as you move it before your hand scores you are good

[pale patio]

Get ready! The Idol is coming to endless mode

Maybe the plant will end this run on higher antes

[swift pebble]

?

[cobalt mesa]

Does this even do anything?

[quiet coyote]

showman's effect doesnt stack

[slender steeple]

glass joker my goat

[swift pebble]

Is polychrome bean worth it if I already have photograph?

[torn solar]

JUDGE MY JOKERS

[wooden zephyr]

Nat negative blueprint in a buffoon pack is criminal

[gusty ravine]

Mmm fire

[hidden sentinel]

Skip for red card cause trussstttt

[sonic rapids]

$$$

[hidden sentinel]

That’s a lotta money…

[swift pebble]

What order should my jokers be in ?

[frank valve]

to my understanding, from left to right, it should be chips, +mult, Xmult

and move your blueprint to copy Photo

[lofty wasp]

chip placements don't matter since they're a flat addition, and there's also the distincton of on trigger +mult, which always triggers before anything else. also ur planet levles and other jokers can affect your optimal placemens

[lofty wasp]

im assuming that ur playing flushes and if so place your face card at the end of the hand, then copy photo with blueprint on the right so smily and wrathful (forget what its called) trigger before photo and you get full value

[late axle]

Well, that was fun

Midas vampire nice combo

I wanted to ask what order would be the best

I think it was good

[lethal delta]

midas after vamp so they stay gold usually. but you were fine for $. you can also add a face to that hand, or play pair/high card with 2 of them b/c splash

[swift pebble]

Thank you

[late axle]

Wouldnt Midas proc first even i different spot?

[lethal delta]

vamp has some weird interactions, but vamp then midas means vamp removes enhancement if one there, then midas makes gold

so your unplayed faces are gold = $

[lofty wasp]

Np!

Always down to help someone out ^^

[median phoenix]

what should i sell for brainstorm, the cat is at 2,5x

[deep notch]

depends on hand levels i guess

[median phoenix]

i have flush at lvl 11

[deep notch]

i assume you can get rid of boots

[bold cargo]

Successful plasma gold stake run

I've never done the mult pivot thing before

I just chipped my way through my first plasma gold stake

But it worked

[stable shoal]

Hell yes 🔥

I actually just finished my goldstake plasma the other day. It was probably my second hardest goldstake behind black deck

I also had to do the mult pivot thing!

[bold cargo]

I saw the rental marble when I was at like $10 and figured "I don't need money for the rest of the run"

It gives me vampire targets and scales hologram

[stable shoal]

For mine I got lucky with a bull, and just farmed lucky cards. I got REALLY lucky and was hitting 20$ almost every round.

[bold cargo]

Run died in endless ante 11

[wise axle]

Welp, here goes nothing....

[quiet carbon]

what is more useful

[umbral merlin]

bp i think

[quiet carbon]

k

[wooden zephyr]

My wee is out of control 🗣️ 🔥

[stable pivot]

Seeking run advice for black deck gold stake it's miserable

[azure glen]

O7 to another dead run due to no antimatter

[swift pebble]

So this ?

[lofty wasp]

Ya! ^w^

[zinc apex]

Also

[quiet carbon]

chicot has to go?

[rare arrow]

TF is that one on the right

[quiet carbon]

hierophant

[rare arrow]

Like the tarot?

[quiet carbon]

yes

[rare arrow]

Why would chicot need to go for 1 hand size

[quiet carbon]

check the knive

[rare arrow]

Don't kill chicot 😔

[quiet carbon]

but 🥺

[rare arrow]

Nuh uh

[quiet carbon]

i killed him

i didnt win the achievement

😭

[rare arrow]

NOOOOOOO

[karmic ivy]

Just had the easiest run of my life, literally played with nothing but THREE jokers in hand, 9 rounds only, and guess what. Got defeated by violet vessel in ante EIGHT. I'm so done😭

[tired flare]

boooo

[upbeat linden]

Last game of the day

100 something mult on flashcards

[torn solar]

ALGUIEN HABLA SPANISH
Someone speak spanish omg

No digo la enie por siacaso

Cual logro querias por cierto?

[stable pivot]

Burnt Photochad blueprint brainstorm of course

[quiet coyote]

Its an english only server

[quiet carbon]

El de completar un desafio

que raro que no me lo dieron

[torn solar]

Omg

[torn solar]

Ah

Bug or idk

English only

[quiet carbon]

yea

[torn solar]

If no we die

[quiet carbon]

save me Mr bones

[torn solar]

We love you mr bones!!

[quiet carbon]

he's the goat

[torn solar]

The best joker

[quiet carbon]

nah

best joker is

triboullet

[torn solar]

Mmm

[torn solar]

In spanish

[quiet carbon]

triboullet

Legendary guy

[strong elm]

What do I do here?

[slate talon]

Options

[deep notch]

if good enough card(s), replace smiley for dna
otherwise open spectral

[wooden zephyr]

who should i scarifce

im thinking maybe square joker since i can now move to full house or five of a kind

WHAT IS THIS RUN

[deep notch]

i would consider killing Rocket to be safest; you're gonna get more money from the luckies, but idk what the deck looks like

[deep notch]

lmao nice

[wooden zephyr]

bloodstone and nat negative smiley

THIS RUN IS CRACKED

[deep notch]

nice

[wooden zephyr]

what is this run

should i sell the dna for sock and buskin or wait

[sonic rapids]

monday night with da boys

[deep notch]

i'd do it ig

[wooden zephyr]

never punished, it came back

didn't even have director's cut...

[winged pagoda]

surely cat copy wins

[wooden zephyr]

no i didn't

[shadow meteor]

Rest in peace

[torn solar]

Ohhh

I remember

[slate talon]

I almost did it

[summer nova]

(I didnt but) valid skip?

I have everything to gain from 3 negative rolls that are free and barely anything really to lose?

[slate talon]

Ok

[swift pebble]

Are any of these worth buying?

[quaint geyser]

what should i sell for lucky cat? rocket is at $13

[fluid shell]

Honestly rocket, just keep an eye on your econ

[meager lantern]

showmans dont stack bro 😭

[slate talon]

No you don't understand it was about to work

[meager lantern]

oh?

[slate talon]

I had a vision

[meager lantern]

were they showing you how to beat the stake

[slate talon]

A little bit

[meager lantern]

if they failed they must not be great showmen

[swift pebble]

Ok wow I think I got super lucky this early run look what order should my jokers be in left to right?

[icy yarrow]

i don't really think it matters rn

[fluid shell]

ah yes, thanks

[fast ridge]

Needed to vent, game hates me

I hate perishables

[swift pebble]

Ok which do I take?

[icy yarrow]

probably the glass card because you have no xmult

or the steel card

[swift pebble]

yeah I need an xmult bad

doing flush build

probably spade

taking the steel

Sold photograph to buy ancient joker

good idea?

[cinder hamlet]

can swap photo for campfire

[swift pebble]

damn

just rerolled into supernova

do I buy it and sell something?

supernova has been amazing for me every time I get it

but what can I take out to not kill my face deck combo?

[cinder hamlet]

snova might not be the best here

[swift pebble]

So don’t buy it?

I’m doing flush build

[cinder hamlet]

yesh

[swift pebble]

What

[cinder hamlet]

don't buy it

[swift pebble]

Most of my deck is already gold

[solid tulip]

fr.

i was in hell looking at heaven

[swift pebble]

Why?