💻・modding-dev

[clear ocean]

return {
    descriptions = {
        Joker = {
            jg_cTerrorist = {
                name = 'Counter-Terrorist',
                text = {
                    'Retrigger all vanilla jokers'
                }
            }
        },

-- Counter-Terrorist
SMODS.Joker({
    key = 'cTerrorist',
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = 'cTerroristConcept', set = 'Other' }
        info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = 'cTerroristArt', set = 'Other' }
        info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = 'cTerroristSource', set = 'Other' }
    end,
})

Did I miss something?

[normal crest]

joker keys start with j_

[clear ocean]

So, j_galore_cTerrorist?

[normal crest]

If galore is your prefix yeah, that's what you'd put in the loc file

[lament agate]

bum

[red flower]

same as jokers

[lament agate]

thanks

[clear ocean]

Thanks. 👍 (I added in the credits, that wasn't the issue.)

[errant arrow]

trying to get ^# into a joker, but it doesnt have an effect.
this is my calculate code

the message shows up, showing that it's effect is being detected, but it doesn't do it's desired effect

[modern kindle]

i dont think thats what cts do silly

[red flower]

sanity check, do you have talisman

[hushed field]

Are you testing your mod together with Talisman?

[errant arrow]

yes

[modern kindle]

hi ice

[errant arrow]

both are together

[hushed field]

Yo Dilly

[clear ocean]

i'm going to have ct retrigger vanilla and t retrigger modded (not fully accurate, but not sure how i would put a bomb/hostage in the game)

[modern kindle]

did you see i appear to have gpu joker up and running

[red flower]

have you tried return { emult = number, echips = number}

[modern kindle]

could do a blind for bomb, x seconds to beat the blind or the ante

[hushed field]

Also, try it without the _mod in the return, as that's only needed if you don't want the message to display

[clear ocean]

maybe...

[errant arrow]

i'll try both ideas

[clear ocean]

I don't plan on adding blinds as I don't think there is any I can come up with at the moment that would be fun to play

[worthy stirrup]

I dont remember, how do i make a variable that changes in the description

[errant arrow]

it worked, ty

[worthy stirrup]

heres what I got

I dont remember how to change viewer_total and also have it be a variable

[clear ocean]

I'm pretty sure I can look at the vanilla remake of blueprint or something to see.

[hushed field]

Blueprint and Retrigger effects are not the same effect!

[wind steppe]

how would i check how many cards would normally score in a hand? (can't use context.scoring_hand, my joker makes nothing score)

[clear ocean]

Apologises. 😅

[wind steppe]

wait why is that common

[red flower]

can you elaborate

[hushed field]

No need to apologize, haha, I just mean to prevent you from setting up code and wondering why it doesn't work like you'd expect, haha

[clear ocean]

I haven't decided yet. Probably uncommon or rare.

[wind steppe]

I have the first part but not the second part

[red flower]

is this with the splash context?

[wind steppe]

yeah it's using context.modify_scoring_hand

[red flower]

it has context.scoring_hand

i assume that's the scoring hand pre return

[clear ocean]

    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.other_joker and (--[[ context something?]])then
            return {
                -- retrigger
            }
        end
    end```

[wind steppe]

context.modify_scoring_hand calculates every time a card is selected or deselected

[clear ocean]

Something like this?

[red flower]

if context.in_scoring then

[wind steppe]

can you clarify when this is called

[red flower]

it's an argument in modify_scoeing_hand

[wind steppe]

so like this?

[red flower]

yeah, i would only use the in_scoring check for the chips so the remove_from_hand works properly when selecting cards

[clear ocean]

I saw this, but not sure how to implement it.

[red flower]

that's so you can avoid retriggers

i dont think how to do retriggers is documented

[wind steppe]

regrettably cryptid does do joker retriggers

[clear ocean]

of course cryptid does that

[wind steppe]

if context.retrigger_joker_check and not context.retrigger_joker and context.other_card ~= self then

the joker youre retriggering is context.other_card

[clear ocean]

        if context.retrigger_joker_check and not context.retrigger_joker and context.other_card ~= self and (--[[ context something?]]) then
            return {
                -- retrigger
            }
        end

all i need is some sort of way to check if the joker is vanilla or modded and i can just do the inverse for t

[wind steppe]

                return {
                    message = localize("k_again_ex"),
                    repetitions = (how many times you want to retrigger)
                    card = card,
                }

[red flower]

if not context.other_card.config.center.original_mod

[clear ocean]

that's for vanilla right?

[red flower]

yes

[clear ocean]

let's see if this works

[wind steppe]

also i think you have to turn on joker retriggers somewhere

[red flower]

yes

[clear ocean]

woops

sorry if it's compressed to hell

[lament agate]

how do you change cards rank

or id

[wind steppe]

this doesn't make them stop scoring, if i put in remove_from_hand = true to the first retrigger it also applies to cards that wouldn't normally score

[clear ocean]

didn't want to risk it not being able to sent

[lament agate]

from 4 to 10 i.e

[wind steppe]

setting the rank like oujia or changing it like strength

this is for strength-likes

[lament agate]

cant be specific?

[wind steppe]

wdym specific

like with oujia?

[red flower]

oh yeah you're not checking if it's in scoring, i thought you were going to add that

the logic for the if elseif is wrong too

-- pseudocode
if modify_scoring_hand then
    if in_scoring and other_card is in scoring then
      chips += 1
    end
    return { remove_from_hand = true }
end

[red flower]

SMODS.change_base

[clear ocean]

any documention on that?

[red flower]

no

[clear ocean]

rats

[clear ocean]

might go back to the drawing board for other ideas then

[errant arrow]

how would i make it to where either mult or chips is divided by something? trying to make a joker that harms chips, but boosts mult

[red flower]

https://github.com/SpectralPack/Cryptid/blob/70ac0bd6e426da97fabedf7c4cc941e81b583982/Cryptid.lua#L17

[wind steppe]

how do i check if the other card is scoring though

[clear ocean]

SMODS.current_mod.optional_features = {
    retrigger_joker = true,
    post_trigger = true,
    quantum_enhancements = false,
}

assert(SMODS.load_file('src/jokers.lua'))()

Like this?

[red flower]

SMODS.in_scoring(context.other_card, context.scoring_hand)
you can also do a loop yourself

[clear ocean]

Thanks.

[red flower]

when is it divided

[errant arrow]

it's supposed to just divide chips once the joker is triggered, so i guess during calculation of a blind

[clear ocean]

godspeed 🔥

[red flower]

return { xchips = 0.5 }?

idk if that works

[clear ocean]

i had an idea for an edition that's a "forgey" basically it's cheaper but less or no resell value

[errant arrow]

testing it

[ocean sinew]

it does

[clear ocean]

terrorist doesn't work. is that because ct doesn't count or did I mess up the logic

[clear ocean]

context.other_card.config.center.original_mod is without the not/inverse keyword

[red flower]

i dont think so

[clear ocean]

-- Counter-Terrorist
SMODS.Joker({
    key = 'cTerrorist',
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = 'terroristSource', set = 'Other' }
    end,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.retrigger_joker_check and not context.retrigger_joker and context.other_card ~= self and not context.other_card.config.center.original_mod then
            return {
                message = localize("k_again_ex"),
                repetitions = 1,
                card = card,
            }
        end
    end
})

-- Terrorist
SMODS.Joker({
    key = 'terrorist',
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = 'terroristSource', set = 'Other' }
    end,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.retrigger_joker_check and not context.retrigger_joker and context.other_card ~= self and context.other_card.config.center.original_mod then
            return {
                message = localize("k_again_ex"),
                repetitions = 1,
                card = card,
            }
        end
    end
})

[red flower]

oh you mean for the other joker?

the problem is that self is not the joker, card is the joker

self is the prototype

[clear ocean]

i see

[errant arrow]

unless im doing something wrong, this does not work.
below is the code for the joker

[clear ocean]

is Xchips supposed to be capitalised?

[red flower]

i think not

[errant arrow]

the Xmult works tho?

[red flower]

yeah but Xchips doesnt

[errant arrow]

the chips part fails

[clear ocean]

probably because in the base game there is Xmult but no xchips functionality

localthunk programmed it as Xmult and the smod devs programmed it as xchips

[red flower]

there are a couple of keys allowed for both

Xchips is not for some reason

[errant arrow]

okay, it worked, but the only thing that throws me off is that i have a joker that just boosts chips and is Xchip_mod

[clear ocean]

context.other_card ~= / = card?

[red flower]

Xchip_mod is allowed lol

[errant arrow]

maybe it was the s

[red flower]

no the s is fine

it's just a weird list of keys

[errant arrow]

well, it worked, the chips now get halved, so i'm not worried about it anymore

[wintry solar]

Saw someone wanting retrigger docs https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1233186615086813277/1376636714831056916/image.png?ex=68808919&is=687f3799&hm=6cb87125738a7c0375c1d2f8f17a4fe2b6ddc47cf8dc3d68b9fac9bdd3ba829a&

The Xchips keys are just what talisman had

If it was my decision there’d be a single key for each effect

[red flower]

which one

[wintry solar]

All of them

[red flower]

which key i mean

[wintry solar]

Oh

They’d be chips/mult/xchips/xmult

[red flower]

those are the good ones

[wintry solar]

I know 🤣

[wicked crow]

how can I generate a joker from a specific group of jokers?

like judgement

[red flower]

either use pseudorandom_element on a table of joker keys or create an SMODS.ObjectType and pass that as the set

https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/blob/73c19ebfaefad69c543e5d48c5e8a3f426b33737/src/tarots.lua#L1305

[slim ferry]

i dont think this is what erratic deck does?

why does it have double blind size

[wintry solar]

That looks like plasma deck code

[slim ferry]

its just a copy of the plasma deck code but with a different unlock text and code

and the commentary is for erratic deck

[red flower]

i did the unlock stuff so thats probably why

i didnt do the effect

[modern kindle]

hello eremel i hope you are well today

[normal crest]

hello dilly i hope you are well today

[red flower]

hello srockw i hope you are well today

[modern kindle]

hello N' i hope you are well today

[normal crest]

hello N i hope you are well today

[red flower]

hello i hope you are well today

[modern kindle]

i didnt do a ton of progress but i finally made extra files and moved shit over where they belong

so i now have an editions file, enhancements, consumables
next i need to actually do everything in my loc file again since i got lazy and kept adding stuff without putting it there

[red flower]

im asking egg for a modding-dev-off-topic

[normal crest]

today well hope you hello N are i

[modern kindle]

i will still be here off topic

this is where i communicate with my fine fellows

[red flower]

i want to finish the new joyousspring release today or tomorrow

im missing a bunch of stuff i pushed for later :3

[wintry solar]

Hello dilly I am well how are you

[modern kindle]

i wish i could just have something move everything to localization for me

[red flower]

isnt there an smods function for that

[wintry solar]

I went to a big inflatable place this morning with my kid, it was fun

Yeah you can dump localizations

[modern kindle]

im doing alright, i got that gpu joker in motion, my greatest concern relies on performance cause my first implementation brought my from 430 frames to 50, but now i hover at above 100, near 150 to 120
so ill have to test with people who dont have very great systems to see what the damage is

[modern kindle]

this sounds like alot of fun

oh how do i dump localizations

[normal crest]

something in your metadata iirc

[wintry solar]

It’s a metadata argument

[normal crest]

But it only works for objects loc_txt, unless it was changed

[chrome widget]

Weh

[normal crest]

wah

[red flower]

hi winter!!!

[modern kindle]

gotcha, its the dump_loc right

hi winter

[chrome widget]

Hi N'!!!!

Hi Dilly!!!

[normal crest]

sounds right

[modern kindle]

hows my bestest most perfect beauty doing this day

[chrome widget]

This blind is wearing on me so bad 😭

[wintry solar]

Turn all your other mods off first though

[chrome widget]

I once again can't tell if you're flirting or not Dilly

[modern kindle]

oh right yea, i almost did not do that, will that write everything to the loc file i already had progress in or should i delete that andf let it make its own

[red flower]

i love flirting with friends

[modern kindle]

i dont think theres a friend i havent flirted with

[chrome widget]

Honestly same

[modern kindle]

but i mean no true romantic intentions behind it

[chrome widget]

I flirt with all my friends dgjvnzndggsj

[modern kindle]

i just like making my freinds feel awesome and perfect cause they are

[tepid crow]

Just like when kissing the homies goodnight on the mouth

[chrome widget]

This is where we differ my friend. All flirting isn't serious until suddenly it is for me LMFAO

But that's just being poly and demi for you

[modern kindle]

i have in fact kissed a homie

[clear ocean]

Sorry if I stopped talking, I made some placeholders

[modern kindle]

its okay i know im perfect and awesome and you want to marry me posthaste

[chrome widget]

Nods nods yes yes

Mwah

[normal crest]

It probably overwrites

[modern kindle]

[normal crest]

But idk

[chrome widget]

You are perfect and awesome. Unrelated, sorry I haven't made more progress on that GPU thing or the weird rotation problem with the symbols

[modern kindle]

i will implement the 'fuck it we ball' narrative and find out

[chrome widget]

I'm going real slow on shit recently I think just because I'm feeling some fatigue at the end of the project

[tepid crow]

could've flipped the tooltip so it says

Counter-Strike:
Source

but maybe that's just me

[modern kindle]

i aint too worried, it still looks great and i have the gpu reading working well, my main concern is perf related as i told you yesterday

but i went from below 50 fps to over 120

so im improving the reading with perf

[chrome widget]

Hmmm yeah is whatever library you're using just notably slow?

Obviously there's an inherent issue in that the task manager has OS access in a way that external programs don't, and especially since Lua is itself a scripting language abstraction, there's multiple levels of access and speed removed from low level OS processes

[modern kindle]

im going through ffi as thats my only option and reading the dll
one issue was that i also wasnt just returning early if i found the correct gpu in use so i was profiling all possible gpus every like frame

so i changed that in a jiffy

[clear ocean]

That was me. Not sure how to inverse for Terrorist.

[modern kindle]

but now i average around 150 with my fixes there

[clear ocean]

--Creates an atlas for cards to use
SMODS.Atlas {
    -- Key for code to find it with
    key = "jokers",
    -- The name of the file, for the code to pull the atlas from
    path = "jokers.png",
    -- Width of each sprite in 1x size
    px = 71,
    -- Height of each sprite in 1x size
    py = 95
}

-- Counter-Terrorist
SMODS.Joker({
    key = 'cTerrorist',
    atlas = 'jokers',
    pos = { x = 0, y = 0 },
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = 'terroristSource', set = 'Other' }
    end,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        -- Thank you to nh6574 and unusedparadox for help with retriggering functionality
        if context.retrigger_joker_check and not context.retrigger_joker and context.other_card ~= self and not context.other_card.config.center.original_mod then
            return {
                message = localize("k_again_ex"),
                repetitions = 1,
                card = card,
            }
        end
    end
})

-- Terrorist
SMODS.Joker({
    key = 'terrorist',
    atlas = 'jokers',
    pos = { x = 1, y = 0 },
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = 'terroristSource', set = 'Other' }
    end,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.retrigger_joker_check and not context.retrigger_joker and context.other_card ~= self and context.other_card.config.center.original_mod then
            return {
                message = localize("k_again_ex"),
                repetitions = 1,
                card = card,
            }
        end
    end
})

[modern kindle]

which is you know, 3x better

[umbral zodiac]

time to make a joker that retriggers itself 2 times

[modern kindle]

make a joker that explodes itself

[clear ocean]

Looking at the documentation, it should work?

[red flower]

you didnt change the self thing

[clear ocean]

What do I change it to?

[red flower]

context.other_card ~= card

[clear ocean]

oh. OH

i'm so stupid

[red flower]

i dont think thats stopping it from working tho

[errant arrow]

im wondering, how would i set up my code to where i would be able to pull data from different lua files like with what cryptid did?
-# organization is painful if it's all in one file

[slim ferry]

depends on what you mean by data

[clear ocean]

yeah it's not working still

[chrome widget]

Honestly that's really good???

I don't know your computer specs but I average around 160 in regular gameplay

[red flower]

https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/blob/main/VanillaRemade.lua
https://github.com/nh6574/JoyousSpring/blob/main/JoyousSpring.lua
what i do in my mods

[clear ocean]

maybe it's the context.other_card.config.center.original_mod?

okay, it might be because ct doesn't count let me make a mockup joker real quick?

[red flower]

oh yeah one is not going to retrigger the other

because youre checking for no retriggers

[wintry solar]

You can’t retrigger retriggers anyway

[clear ocean]

that makes sense now

probably to prevent a forever loop

[wintry solar]

Yup

[clear ocean]

are both blueprint compatible like the code itself should be fine

[slim ferry]

all calculate functions should be blueprint compatible as long as you dont do and not context.blueprint

[wintry solar]

I should really make the blueprint compat field actually do something other than ui too at some point

[slim ferry]

what else would it actually do

[wintry solar]

I mean if you set it to false you should also have to do and not context.blueprint

That’s just silly

[slim ferry]

that means you cant do trolling by faking blueprint incompatibility... 1984...

[wintry solar]

Oh no what a shame 🙃

[unborn bay]

blueprint_compat = false
look inside
blueprintable

[clear ocean]

Blueprint is working with both 👍

[modern kindle]

thank you for telling me about dump loc its so beautiful

i was previously manually entering everything

[ocean sinew]

why it choose that name 😭

joker name is crazy

[clear ocean]

Is it normal for modded jokers to have locked requirements

well how did you program it

that isn't the default it's either completely empty or ERROR if i can recall

if you used a tool like joker forge it mightve had that as a placeholder

[red flower]

check vanillaremade

it has locked jokers

[clear ocean]

i was asking seu pai but i can use those a refresher it is more if it's the norm if modded jokers are locked or already available

[slim ferry]

depends on what you want

not a lot of mods do it but i imagine its more because coming up with unlock requirements is hard than anything else

[clear ocean]

fair enough

maybe maybe not then

[modern kindle]

it mostly just depends on what you wanna do, right now i dont ahve any unlock conditions but of my 60 jokers most of them will eventually

[clear ocean]

okay, for this is there some way to have the extra_cost something like 0.25 or 0.5 or something?

[slim ferry]

garbshit has some pretty good unlocks for a bunch of jokers, but unlock conditions are mostly an extra thing imo as they arent actual content

[slim ferry]

extra_cost is a flat increase, not a multiplier

[clear ocean]

aw man

not even a negative?

[slim ferry]

but i know that entropy has an edition with X0.5 shop cost

negative is +5$

[clear ocean]

negative number like -5

[slim ferry]

ohhh

well a adding a negative number would decrease it yeah

[clear ocean]

lmao (ill work on the art later) so im using the base graphics to differentiate

[modern kindle]

clowns are terrorists...get em guys..

[clear ocean]

"there's too many of them!"

[slim ferry]

no way source: counter-strike??? cs source reference???

[clear ocean]

it is indeed a counter strike reference...

[clear ocean]

should i go look for entropy and see how they did that or a negative number be good enough

any suggestions on a good price as well (democracy for the win)

[modern kindle]

considering its retriggering all modded or vanilla by default they probably should be rare

[red flower]

exotic

[clear ocean]

i'm not adding any extra rarities so i'll vote for rare as i agree

[modern kindle]

i want to add another rarity but i havent decided to dive into that yet

[clear ocean]

i think common - legendary is good enough for me espically since i want to keep this like vanillaequse if that makes sense

[red flower]

what would it be called

i dont think retriggers are vanillaesque

[clear ocean]

the holy grail

they aren't?

[red flower]

no thats why theyre an optional feature in smods lol

[clear ocean]

ohh

uh

i think this is the line in the sand for me then

[red flower]

i mean its fine you dont have to stick to vanilla

[clear ocean]

four rarities is enough i think

[hidden notch]

Can you return a message without playing a sound?
return(message = 'Bark!', sound = nil) obviously play's the generic1 sound ^^'

[clear ocean]

def more of a band aid fix, but an empty sound file? like nothing in it

[modern kindle]

i dont even know, i know some of my stuff is where we would want inbetweens
like stuff between common and uncommon, or rare and uncommon, or rare and legendary
just as examples
id have to remember or ask what people thought theyd be

[hidden notch]

Yeah I had the same Idea but I wanted to check if there's maybe a better way x'3

[red flower]

try volume = 0

[hidden notch]

Oh-- Well didn't think I would've been able to use that in the return
Yeah that works perfectly fine, Thank you N'!

[red flower]

there are some things in the message return that are not documented

[wind steppe]

SMODS.Joker:take_ownership{"splash", {
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.modify_scoring_hand and not context.blueprint then
            return {
                add_to_hand = true
            }
        end
    end
}, true}
``` why does my take ownership crash

[red flower]

whats the crash

also this wouldnt do much i dont think because i think splash is hardcoded

[red flower]

oh i have no idea what that crash is lol

[real night]

SMODS.Joker {
    key = "wheel_of_joker",
    config = { extra = { mult = 2, odds = 4 } },
    rarity = 1,
    atlas = "yap_jokers",
    pos = { x = 0, y = 0 },
    cost = 2,
    blueprint_compat = true,
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { card.ability.extra.mult, card.ability.extra.odds, (G.GAME and G.GAME.probabilities.normal or 1) } }
    end,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.joker_main then
            do return {
                mult = card.ability.extra.mult
            } end
            if pseudorandom('vremade_gros_michel') < G.GAME.probabilities.normal / card.ability.extra.odds then
                return {
                    xmult = card.ability.extra.mult
                }
            end
        end
    end
}

oh wait

i did something wrong

im so cooked

[slim ferry]

old probability system spotted

also the seed you put into pseudorandom does not matter by the way

[real night]

i copied gros michel from vanillaremade

what is the new system

[slim ferry]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/releases/tag/1.0.0-beta-0711a

read all this probability stuff

at least the parts that are relevant to your thingy

[red flower]

update vanillaremade lol

[hardy viper]

do return end spotted

[rapid stag]

what is do return end 😭

[red flower]

do end creates a block to limit scopes

i dont think returning there does anything

[vernal path]

Okay, I'm unfamiliar with Lua- If I were trying to keep track of a list of scored cards (or specifically, one value from them that I will just store as a number), how would I define it in config.extra?

[clear ocean]

Good idea?

[slim ferry]

worse green joker...

[modern kindle]

if you think about every card ever created is a worse version of every other card ever created which is a better worse version of the bettered

[clear ocean]

do you have a suggestion?

[slim ferry]

make it like 30 chips

also use multiple lines in your description

[clear ocean]

i will that's what im doing rn

just prototyping

[modern kindle]

could also just make it gain the chips of the cards played itself instead of a static

[clear ocean]

that might actually be a good idea

[red flower]

i like that

[clear ocean]

thanks

[modern kindle]

:D

sometimes i have good ideas

[old epoch]

How do i detect what ante and round it is?

[slim ferry]

current ante should be G.GAME.round_resets.ante

[old epoch]

Thanks, i assume for rounds i just swap ante for rounds?

[slim ferry]

not sure, never used the current round for anything before

[old epoch]

I'll test it out then, thanks for the help!

[clear ocean]

what do you think

I got to get ready for something, so I have to work on it later.

[slim ferry]

oh that sounds peak

[clear ocean]

idk if the self destruction condition is good in practice but i got to get ready for something

[clear ocean]

@modern kindle also do tell me if this is or isn't the way you want to be credited

[modern kindle]

I dont mind, id say the desc looks a little wordy but im not sure how id personally change it

You can give credit in any way you deem sufficient :)

[vestal magnet]

ok so. i want a joker to trigger when using a SPECIFIC consumable
how do i specify the consumable

[plucky zenith]

When using Joker:calculate() can anyone help me understand the differences been these three context combos:

1. context.end_of_round AND NOT context.individual AND NOT context.repetition -- This seems to happen only once
2. context.end_of_round AND context.individual AND NOT context.repetition -- This seems to happen multiple times
3. context.end_of_round AND NOT context.individual AND context.repetition -- This seems to happen multiple times

I want to do something at the end of the round, and using #1 works, but it took me a while to figure out I needed to also check individual and reptition...but I'm not sure WHY I need to check them.

[vestal magnet]

(planet mars in particular)

[slim ferry]

should be if context.using_consumeable and context.consumeable == "c_mars"

[vestal magnet]

tnks

[red flower]

context.consumeable

"c_mars" too

[red flower]

the first one is to only do a single main effect
the second is to do effects on playing cards at end of round
the third is to do repetitions on playing cards at end of round

you should be using context.main_eval instead of not repetitions and not individual tho

[plucky zenith]

Ahhh, so the second and third will happen for each card played - once for one card played, 5x for a standard full hand

[slim ferry]

not played cards

cards held in hand at the end of round

like gold cards and blue seals

[red flower]

"playing card" as in the cards with ranks and suits lol

[plucky zenith]

Thank you! I'll go check out context.main_eval too. There's a note about it at the bottom of the calculation wiki, but I didn't notice it until just now

[knotty orchid]

calculate = function(self, blind, context)
        if not blind.disabled then
            if context.debuff_card and context.debuff_card.area == G.consumeables then
                return { debuff = true }
            end
        end
    end

I want the blind to debuff consumables, what's missing here?

[red flower]

debuff_card might not go through consumables but im not sure

[knotty orchid]

Oh, but using context.card here is not an option right?

[wind steppe]

how do i check a joker's key?

[sonic cedar]

card.config.center.key

would it be in a context, or in update if i wanted a consistent track within a joker?

my GUESS is update

but i could be wrong

[red flower]

consistent track of what

[sonic cedar]

basically want the discard number to be increased while ijiraq has drunkard's ability since it doesn't do that automatically

putting it in add_to deck would have it trigger... only when it's added to the deck

[red flower]

yeah that might be an update thing but also you could make a context for it

[sonic cedar]

ooh ok! where would i call it?

maybe in the transformation function?

(hiiiii heaven)

[formal parrot]

Great github won’t let me log in

[formal parrot]

Hey toma ^w^

[knotty orchid]

recalc_debuff = function(self, card, from_blind)
        if card.area == G.consumeables then
            return true
        end
    end

This doesn't go through consumables too right?

[sonic cedar]

[red flower]

yeah

[sonic cedar]

ill let you know how it goes

[near heart]

am i able to make the text color in a textbox alternate/change? (not like a gradient, but like controlling the color through a variable that updates it)

[chrome widget]

Typically you'd have to attach an update function to the UI node

[red flower]

yes but you would need to patch i think unless you only want to update it on hover

[chrome widget]

which could change the color contextually

[near heart]

yeah this is fine

[red flower]

if it's only on hover you can use box_colours in loc_vars and return a different color based on conditions

[clear ocean]

Okay 👍

Not sure how to word it right and still unsure if the self-destruct sequence is good

Like would it be fair especially if you used judgment or rift raft

[modest dock]

hi, what's the name of the sound effect that plays when a card with an edition is scored?

[slim ferry]

how would i actually do proper talisman compat, i hear a lot of to_big = to_big or function(x) return x end get thrown around but like thats it

[maiden phoenix]

To make talisman compat add it to your mod conflicts 👍

[slim ferry]

i heard its not too hard so i would like to at least try

[red flower]

there's a note on it at the bottom of the vanillaremade joker file

[maiden phoenix]

to_big is usually used on dollars, pokerhands and I think chips too?

[red flower]

i will move it to the wiki soon

[plucky zenith]

I'm trying to have a joker create some cards at end of round. For individual cards it seems to work fine - I just put them right where they should be (cards going into the deck aren't super noticeable, but I can live with that). But when I create a pack and try to open it, the blind win screen with the Cash Out button pops up over it. Is there something I can do to cause synchronous handling here?
Simplified code:

    if context.end_of_round and context.main_eval then -- main_eval avoids firing extra times for individual, repitition, etc

        local booster = SMODS.add_card( { set = 'Booster', area = G.play })
        G.FUNCS.use_card({ config = { ref_table = booster } })

    end
end,```

[slim ferry]

so can i just put that function in my main file and ill be good after putting to_big on all my comparisons and stuff?

[red flower]

yes

[solemn shuttle]

got around to testing this this afternoon, this fixed it ty :3

[maiden phoenix]

Try switching to context.starting_shop

[slim ferry]

do i only need to do to_big for comparisons or also for mathematical operations?

[red flower]

just comparisons

specifically <, >, >= and <=

[sonic cedar]

it's not working

[red flower]

that looks like it should

[sonic cedar]

red deck has 4 discards normally right

[wind steppe]

yeah

[sonic cedar]

well it's not going to 5

[loud silo]

what do i do to make a moded joker appear in shops like anything else would?

[wind steppe]

it just does that normally

did you think it didnt orrr

[loud silo]

oh really?

ok

well i rerolled in debug hella times and just thought i needed to do somthing

ill just try again and see

thanks

[red flower]

i think they're not updated immediately if you don't do ease_discard

[sonic cedar]

ohhhhh ok ill do that

why isnt it- i forgot to set instant

[red flower]

did it work

you need to do both ease_discard and the other thing btw

[sonic cedar]

ohhhh lmao

yeah that'll do it

[sonic cedar]

like this?

pretend that - is a +

[red flower]

yes

[sonic cedar]

testing then

[sonic cedar]

why didnt it work are we fr

[red flower]

does it enter the context even

[sonic cedar]

i ran a print check after the call and it printed so im guessing?

[modest dock]

i looked a little harder
I think its some variant of foil2, but theres some audio effects applied to it
i did find that play_sound('foil2', 0.5, 0.4) is for achievements but havent seen for played edition cards yet

[red flower]

does it enter the found

[sonic cedar]

ill run another print chec

[sonic cedar]

it doesnt...

i guess it's a timing issue?

[red flower]

probably

[sonic cedar]

how uh
how can i fix that?

or even....

hold on let me try something

[red flower]

i dont know where that table gets updated

[sonic cedar]

all good
set_ability triggers add_to_deck, so i dont even need the custom

[wintry solar]

does.... does Ijiraq.... work?

[modern kindle]

are you thinking it should not

[wintry solar]

it feels like toma has been working on this card for months now 🤣

[sonic cedar]

i started in february

[chrome widget]

Hmm how do I correctly call a function passed as an argument if the passed arguments (and therefore the arguments function signature) aren't a single table?

[sonic cedar]

so yes

i have

[primal robin]

Is it that hard to implement?

[chrome widget]

oh wait pcall does this

[sonic cedar]

not yet

[red flower]

the ijiraq bug tracker is insane

[sonic cedar]

oh no this is general

ijiraq is literally dominating it

[chrome widget]

okay wait how tf does pcall work

[modern kindle]

in which way are you asking

[primal robin]

First argument - function
All other arguments - will be passed to this function

Function executes.

If no error is thrown - first value is true, and rest is function's return values
If error occured, first value is false, second is error message

[chrome widget]

No yeah, I just can't find the direct implementation of pcall because it might be from a module somewhere so I don't know how to implement the similar passing variable arguments to the first argument function

[primal robin]

It's lua built in function

[modern kindle]

yea you can just use it

i use it for the gpu stuff

[unborn bay]

the gpu what now

[modern kindle]

i pull gpu utilization for a joker

[chrome widget]

is it just?

  func(...)
end```

[modern kindle]

as well as ram use and disks installed

[chrome widget]

I've never used the ... operator before lol

[primal robin]

yes it is

[unborn bay]

... is useful for hooking

some hooks add additional arguments that may get ommited by other hooks

[chrome widget]

ah, cool

[primal robin]

If you need modify values or extract them

local old_func = Game.do_smth
function Game:do_smth(...)
  local args = { ... }
  args[3] = true
  return old_func(self, unpack(args))
end

[chrome widget]

Oh, pcall actually has the first argument be declared directly as nillable

what's the difference in implementation?

whelp let's hope I did this right lol

    -- some code i need to do before the call

    local ret = {f(unpack(arg))}

    -- resetting the code after the call

    return unpack(ret)
end```

Okay so evidently this didn't work

[sonic cedar]

how can you modify a card's own probability values from within the card? trying to have a card's denominator increment by 1 each time its effect brings a successful result

[modern kindle]

i do the reverse of this and lower it until its successful

in extra i have my current probability as denominator, then in calculate whenever your thing happens in success or fail i do

                if card.ability.extra.current_probability > 1 then
                    card.ability.extra.current_probability = card.ability.extra.current_probability - 1
                end

where instead whjatever your extra is say that and the addition instead of subtraction im doing

[sonic cedar]

let me set this up rq

dilly my goat

[vernal path]

i forget can you put formatting in the name of a jonkler

[modern kindle]

hey thats better than me i just forget

[sonic cedar]

yeah

[vernal path]

nice thanks

[granite nymph]

gros michel.... ?

[sonic cedar]

dilly im about to lose it if it crashes by base_numerator again

[modern kindle]

[modern kindle]

hand it over if you be confused

[sonic cedar]

ill push

[modern kindle]

👍

[normal crest]

context.numerator doesn't exist in end_of_round

[sonic cedar]

[formal parrot]

Toma im making deltarune chapter 5

[upper junco]

hello, im new to modding balatro, and i wanted to make a joker which affects the blinds chip requirement, how do i do it, or how can i reference the blind itself so i can learn my way trough it

[chrome widget]

Hmmmmm trying to figure out the most reasonable way to differentiate between cards used in gameplay and cards used for display

[slim ferry]

youre missing like a ton of commas first of all

[upper junco]

damm, my bad

fixed

[slim ferry]

and blind requirement is G.GAME.blind.chips

[upper junco]

thkx mate

[ocean sinew]

Don't forget to do G.GAME.blind.chip_text = number_format(G.GAME.blind.chips) afterwards

otherwise the text won't update

[slim ferry]

and G.HUD.blind:recalculate() too right?

after that

[ocean sinew]

@upper junco heres a example
local blind_value = G.GAME.blind.chips-50
G.GAME.blind.chips = blind_value
G.GAME.blind.chip_text = number_format(G.GAME.blind.chips)

[sonic cedar]

kms

[ocean sinew]

that decreases the requirement blind value by 50

[upper junco]

alright thx

[slim ferry]

you dont need the variable

[ocean sinew]

Ik

[slim ferry]

you can just do G.GAME.blind.chips = G.GAME.blind.chips - 50

[ocean sinew]

but for me variable look cleaner

[slim ferry]

its probably already going to be a variable because generally you should have all numerical joker values in card.ability.extra

[upper junco]

can you do like G.GAME.blind.chips -= 50? or is it not possible in Lua

[slim ferry]

i dont think lua has -= and such

[ocean sinew]

only in LuaU

but this is Lua

[upper junco]

damm

[ocean sinew]

only roblox studio uses LuaU from what I know

[chrome widget]

How to I determine whether the player is currently in the deck skin customization menu?

is there anything that internally identifies the current overlay menu?

[normal crest]

G.OVERLAY_MENU is the actual ui element, dunno if it has identifiable properties

[foggy ginkgo]

Wrong chat

My bad guys

[solemn shuttle]

-# whoops i forwarded smth to the wrong channel lol

[upper junco]

i got it working, but it crashes when the blind is defeated, why does this happens

[ocean sinew]

could you send your code???

[upper junco]

sure

wait a sec

SMODS.Atlas {
key = "jokers",
path = "jokers.png",
px = 71,
py = 95
}

SMODS.Joker {
key = "rodri",
loc_txt = {
name = "Rodrigo, el delincuente",
text = {
'when Blind is selected,',
'weaken it by half its score target'
}
},
config = {extra = {
2
}},
rarity = 1,
atlas = 'jokers',
pos = {x = 0, y = 0},
cost = 3,
add_to_deck = function (self, card, from_debuff)
G.GAME.blind.chips = G.GAME.blind.chips / 2
end,
calculate = function (self,card,context)
if context.setting_blind then
G.GAME.blind.chips = G.GAME.blind.chips / 2
G.GAME.blind.chip_text = G.GAME.blind.chips
end

end

}

im doing shit till it works, sorry if its horrible code

[ocean sinew]

that code is good actually

[ocean sinew]

u need to do G.GAME.blind.chip_text = number_format(G.GAME.blind.chip_text) instead

and add_to_deck u should do that too

[upper junco]

alr ill do it and tell u whatsup

didnt budge

i added/edited these 2 lines

[ocean sinew]

that only happens with your joker and even without other mods enabled?

[upper junco]

only with mine, and i got all the mods that adds joker n stuff disabled

do i enable em and check?

[slim ferry]

needs G.HUD.blind:recalculate() too im pretty sure

[ocean sinew]

try this

[upper junco]

in both funcs?

[ocean sinew]

for some reason mine work without G.HUD_blind:recalculate()

[ocean sinew]

yep

[upper junco]

imma try

[slim ferry]

why do you even have the add to deck effect when youre also reducing blind size at the start of a blind

[upper junco]

same error

[upper junco]

idk, just in case

im new to this sorry

idk if the order is good

[slim ferry]

should work

[ocean sinew]

it is fine idk whats giving error

[slim ferry]

oh

you need to return something

in the calculate function

[upper junco]

this is the full error just in case

[slim ferry]

uninstall talisman

i think

[ocean sinew]

he has talisman disabled I think

[slim ferry]

then it wouldnt show up because its not loaded

[ocean sinew]

oh yeah

true

@upper junco disable all mods

except ur mods

[upper junco]

alright

[slim ferry]

tbh for testing mods you should disable everything but your own mod and debugplus

[ocean sinew]

to test out If It's another mod doing some stuff

[slim ferry]

debugplus cant really break things anyway

and its only helpful

[upper junco]

works perfectly now

[ocean sinew]

yeah

It's some mod doing some stuff

[upper junco]

do i try enabling 1 by 1 to see which is the bad one

[novel yarrow]

Caralho é meu pai...

[ocean sinew]

yep

[upper junco]

alright

[ocean sinew]

Sim

[slim ferry]

i highly suspect that its talisman because it does wierd stuff with tables

[ocean sinew]

I have a talisman enabled in mine with a joker that does the same thing and it works fine

[upper junco]

talisman aint the problem

[slim ferry]

it doesnt automatically break everything

it just breaks a lot of things that dont account for it

[upper junco]

it works good with these on

[novel yarrow]

So I'm having some problems with my code, I have this as my calculate function:

calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.pre_discard and not context.blueprint then
            local card_value
            local highest_value = 0
            for _, card in ipairs(G.hand.highlighted) do
                card_value = card.base.nominal 
                if card_value > highest_value then
                    highest_value = card_value
                    if not card.ability.extra then
                        card.ability.extra = {}
                    end
                    card.ability.extra.x_mult = highest_value 
                end
            end
            return {
                message = localize { type = 'variable', key = 'a_xmult', vars = { card.ability.extra.x_mult } }
            }
        end

I'm trying to get the highest value card out of the highleted cards before discarding them, but the mult on the joker is not updating, can someone help me find the reason why?

[ocean sinew]

perma_x_mult em vez de x_mult

card.ability.extra.perma_x_mult = highest_value

[slim ferry]

no??

thats just

not at all true

perma_x_mult is for adding permanent xmult to playing cards

[ocean sinew]

yep

[slim ferry]

how is that relevant here then?

[ocean sinew]

he wants to add x_mult to the card I think

[novel yarrow]

No, no

It's to the joker

[ocean sinew]

ohhhhh

It's to the joker

[novel yarrow]

I've had this version working before, but it got the value of each individual card

[ocean sinew]

It's not giving x_mult?

or It's not setting the new x_mult

[slim ferry]

why are you even doing the card.ability.extra = { }

theres no point in that, already exists

[unborn bay]

playing cards dont use the extra table

[slim ferry]

but this isnt playing cards

[ocean sinew]

It's the joker he trying to increase

[unborn bay]

the part here seems like its targeting playing cards however

[slim ferry]

card.ability.extra is the jokers extra field in the config

not the playing card

[ocean sinew]

He's using it to get the highest_value of discarded cards

[unborn bay]

actually wait i think i got it

you're overriding what card is in the context of the for loop

[novel yarrow]

OOoooooohhh....

[ocean sinew]

ohhhhh yeah true

[unborn bay]

yeah don't do that

[clear ocean]

I decided that very likely I will remove the self-destruct part to keep it simple

[novel yarrow]

I'll try it, I mainly code in C# and this override doesn't happen there, guess it's different here

Thanks for the help!

[ocean sinew]

np

[clear ocean]

I have some other ideas but trying to keep things like simple and vanilla esque

Even if I don't keep any of the three in the final, I still appreciate all the advice and suggestions 👍 ❤️

Modding is fun and I mess around before with some other games

[ivory coral]

having an annoying blueprint compatibility issue, i have a joker that tallies the number of discarded cards and does an effect once it reaches a certain amount then resets the tally, but because it returns at the same time as its reset it would have issues when being copied especially by brainstorm since it would get reset by the joker itself before brainstorm does its calculation
is there any vanilla joker i can look at which solves this because i cant quite figure it out

[novel yarrow]

Hmmm... Still not working, I guess I'll just take the Burnt Joker route

[last prairie]

Hey quick question how does rarity rate relate to the actual chance of something being found? Like if default_rate is 0.2 whats the chance to find that type? 20%?

(people were yapping in the other modding chat 💀)

[slim ferry]

you can put if not context.blueprint anywhere you want if that could help solve the issue

[novel yarrow]

Maybe I'm trying to get the value wrongly here?

[clear ocean]

The chat is filled with determination and deer roadkill atm

[novel yarrow]

(of the card)

[last prairie]

canio would be similar no?

[ivory coral]

yeah but that wouldnt solve it
once the joker resets the tally any copy effect after it would read that tally value as 0

[ivory coral]

no that has its blueprint-able effect in a seperate context so it doesnt have the issue

[slim ferry]

probably put the reset into a seperate context check after it, that could maybe fix that?

[ivory coral]

most jokers you can double up its effect but not its scaling but this joker has both in the same context

[ivory coral]

true
ill take a look what context comes after discarding

[ocean sinew]

I think It's like the following
we have two rates set to 1 like
{
1,
1,
0.2,
},
what it will do is
If weight is different subtract the highest one by lowest one
example:
{
1,
1,
0.2,
}
1-0.2=0.8
so all the weights with the number one value will now become 0.8
after that we do the following
If weight is same number then divide
example:
{
0.8,
0.8,
0.2,
}
result:
{
0.4,
0.4,
0.2,
}
each chance having different values based on other chances

[slim ferry]

the rarity chance from the rarity rate is based on the total of all rarity's rates. if the total of all rarity rates was 1 (vanilla), then 0.2 would be 20%, but that becomes less if the total of all rarities goes up because more rarities exist

[ocean sinew]

basically a weighted chance system

[slim ferry]

thats an extremely complicated explanation for something really simple

[novel yarrow]

Ok I fixed it lol

[ocean sinew]

It is not simple though

[slim ferry]

yes it is?

[ocean sinew]

wait it is

I can explain better

[novel yarrow]

I had a misplaced context, thank you all for the help!

[slim ferry]

the chance of something appearing is (item's rate) in (total of all rates)

[ocean sinew]

has a table of weights
if weight is different then subtract weight by the lowest weight
if weight is same then divide the weight by all ocurrence of the same weight value

[chrome widget]

@modern kindle @sonic cedar @red flower
flops down onto the foor it's finally overrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[slim ferry]

what?

[last prairie]

k cool that answers it

I comprehend

[slim ferry]

what are you even saying here

[ocean sinew]

Explaining weighted chance system

[last prairie]

so if that extra rarity with weight (0.2) is the only one other than vanilla the total would be 1.2 so it would 0.2/1.2%??? (well not percent but yk

[chrome widget]

The blind obscures all suit information, reorders the suits for ordering purposes to prevent you from puzzling them out based on the default suit order, and picks unique visuals and colors for each bespoke suit. Bleh.

[sonic cedar]

YOOOOOO

[modern kindle]

Youre so freaking peak

[red flower]

lets gooo

[slim ferry]

yeah it would

[last prairie]

cool!!

(trying to add mod support to immolate :))

[sonic cedar]

i forgot to send it here

[slim ferry]

internally the game does a bunch of stuff but the chance will stay the same

[ocean sinew]

No

[slim ferry]

so you dont have to worry about what your rarities add up to

[slim ferry]

the game changes the rates so that they add up to 1 properly im pretty sure, at least the smods wiki says it does

[ocean sinew]

If there's a rarity with the same weight number both the chances will be divided

[ocean sinew]

yes

[slim ferry]

divided by what???

[ocean sinew]

by the amount of rarities with the same weight number

[slim ferry]

but that woudl change the chance of it appearing

[ocean sinew]

example:
{1,1,1}
1/3
{0.3333,0.3333,0.333,}

[slim ferry]

which it doesnt do

yes but thats

different

[last prairie]

so if the rarities are base + the 0.2 one whats the actual chance of each rarity im so confus

[slim ferry]

okay okay

[ocean sinew]

And it does

[slim ferry]

what the game does internally is

it just

divides all the weights by the sum of all weights

[ocean sinew]

yep

[slim ferry]

so that they add up to 1

[ocean sinew]

exactly

[slim ferry]

then

just say that

[ocean sinew]

but It's not that

It's almost

[slim ferry]

it is exactly that though, weighted chances arent that complex

and its not like you need to care for that anyway

[last prairie]

cuz base its 70% common 25% uncommon 5% rare

[slim ferry]

yeah

[ocean sinew]

{1,1,1,0.2,}
subtracts all the different weights by the weight lower than it so 1-0.2
divides all the equal weights by the ocurrence of all equal weights in that case 3

[slim ferry]

but

that doesnt

make the weights add up to 1

[ocean sinew]

it does look

[red flower]

the game just divides 1/3.2 i dont know what this equal weight stuff is

[last prairie]

but the base ones dont all have equal chance do they

[slim ferry]

yeah exactly

[slim ferry]

what if there are no equal weights? then this entire system doesnt even work

like this is just not what the game does

[ocean sinew]

then It's a different system

[slim ferry]

THEN

dont try to explain things

when you dont actually know

how they work

maybe??

[ocean sinew]

I do though

I explained how a weighted chance system works

and thats how it works

[slim ferry]

this was about

balatro's

appearance rate parameter

in a rarity

not weighted chances in general

[red flower]

weighted chances in general also don't care about same weights so i don't understand that part

[slim ferry]

also again weighted chances dont work like that anyway, none of that make sense

if i multiply all the weights by 10

it should still give the same odds for every outcome

yet in whatever youre saying that wouldnt even be true

or like 99% of other situations that arent the one you described

[ivory coral]

update: i have created 2 new contexts specifically for this darn thing
i hope thats not actually the right way to do it but its the only thing i could think of

[slim ferry]

weighted chances dont even care about the exact value of the weights or the total of all weights, the only thing that matters is the ratio between the weights and the total of all of them

weighted chances are in fact, very simple. just multiply all the weights until you get only whole numbers and you can explain an easy real-life equivalent where each weight represents the number of copies of an object, and then you randomly choose one of those objects. the chance for each object is the number of copies of itself divided by the total number of objects

[ocean sinew]

True I was just confused I think balatro just uses a pseudorandom variable and then a for loop inside the weights table to check the lowest one

atleast this would be the most efficient way

[slim ferry]

you dont need to check any specific one though?

just divide all weights by the current sum of all weights and then you have all weights that total to 1

[ocean sinew]

This is actually a algorithm for getting the percentage value chance for each weight

[slim ferry]

then...

okay

but if you dont actually know how balatro's rarity weights work then dont just start explaining them in some completely random way

also no it isnt

[ocean sinew]

it is though

1 is 100%

0.2 is 20%

[slim ferry]

not there

yes in a fraction sense it is 100%

but thats different

[ocean sinew]

the chance of each one of them being rolled is 1/3 1/3 1/3 and 20%

[slim ferry]

THAT ADDS TO 120%

[red flower]

did you fail maths

[ocean sinew]

wait true actually wrong

0.8/3 0.8/3 0.8/3 and 20%

[slim ferry]

NO

its

[ocean sinew]

yep

[red flower]

it's 1/3.2 and 0.2/3.2

[ocean sinew]

0.8/3 = 0,266666667

[slim ferry]

1/(1+1+1+0.2), 1/(1+1+1+0.2), 1/(1+1+1+0.2), 0.2/(1+1+1+0.2)

[ocean sinew]

0.8/3
*3
= 0.8

+0.2 = 1

[slim ferry]

uh cool

[ocean sinew]

total ups to 100%

[slim ferry]

you just completely changed the odds of all of them though

like cool they add up to 1 but thats not the chances

[ocean sinew]

that is not for odds

[slim ferry]

THIS IS ABOUT ODDS THOUGH

[ocean sinew]

It's their chances for being rolled in percentage value

[slim ferry]

THATS ODDS

[ocean sinew]

but the chance is correct though

[red flower]

it's not

[slim ferry]

a percentage is literally the fraction multiplied by 100

its not that deep. at all.

[ocean sinew]

how

[red flower]

#💻・modding-dev message

weights work how eris explained it, your system is nonsense

it doesn't even work to get the final odds

[ocean sinew]

wait true

how do I fix it btw?

[slim ferry]

remove your entire system and replace it with the correct one

[red flower]

uhh i dunno what the conversation was about even before this so i dont know what you're fixing

[ocean sinew]

rn

[unborn bay]

what the fuck happened here

[ocean sinew]

lemme explain

[slim ferry]

this was about what the rarity rate actually did and then he started explaining his wierd thing

[ocean sinew]

{1,1,1,0.2}
this is a table with numbers representing chances 1 being 100%

[slim ferry]

but

[ocean sinew]

and 0.2 being 20%

[slim ferry]

you cant do that

[ivory coral]

ok nvm what i tried isnt actually working anyone else have ideas

[ocean sinew]

I want to get the chance for each one to be rolled

[red flower]

that's not how weights work

your system is flawed because you don't know what a weight is in the first place

1 is not 100%, it's just 1

[slim ferry]

in a table of weights, 1 is just 1. not 100%. nothing else. its just 1. a percentage would be the chance to roll it

[red flower]

the important part is the ratio

[ocean sinew]

what I mean is 1*100 is equal to 100%

[slim ferry]

cool

and?

[ocean sinew]

when I multiply by 100 it gives the percentage

[slim ferry]

no

[red flower]

no

[slim ferry]

not yet

[red flower]

if it was 100% it would be guaranteed

[slim ferry]

only once you normalize it to total to 1

then multiply by 100

thats the % chance

[red flower]

reset it in an event?

[ocean sinew]

ohhhhhhhh

I understand it now

[ivory coral]

thats also a solid idea
but ive also bit a snag like what if its copied by blueprint
i dont want it double incrementing either but if it only increments on itself the blueprint wont ever do anything

[red flower]

can i see the code

[ocean sinew]

I need to get the total

then add them

then divide the numbers

then multiply

[ivory coral]

        if context.discard then
            card.ability.extra.currentdisc = card.ability.extra.currentdisc + 1
            if card.ability.extra.currentdisc >= card.ability.extra.discreq then
                card.ability.extra.currentdisc = 0
                return {
                    dollars = card.ability.extra.dollarper
                }
            end
        end

[ocean sinew]

like this @slim ferry
{1,1,1,0.2}
total=320
{100/320,100/320,100/320,20/320}

then I multiply by 100 again

and I'll get the chance

?

[red flower]

yeah

[ocean sinew]

Thanks I understand now

I wasn't understanding this

[red flower]

isn't it easier to do this in context.pre_discard

[ivory coral]

that is an idea but wouldnt that not solve it
it would still have the same tallying problem

[red flower]

but yeah i would reset it in an event and only increment when not context.blueprint

[ivory coral]

but if it doesnt increment in context.blueprint then blueprint copying this would never do anything though

since it would never be equal

[red flower]

doesn't the number stay the same then

so it would trigger the same

i dont know how to explain it without coding and i dont like coding on phone

[ivory coral]

i need it to copy only the money effect not the tally or the tally reset
but once the tally is incremented its already calculated the blueprint card for the context calculation so it doesnt do anything

the tally would need to be counted before any of the jokers and the reset would have to happen after all of them

[red flower]

that's why the reset should be in an event

pre_discard solves the first issue too

and it's better if the tally rolls over twice

[ivory coral]

how so

[red flower]

because pre_discard doesn't go card by card

you would need to return the dollars in discard tho i think

[ivory coral]

hmmm
so how would this work then
do the tally in pre_discard and not blueprint
return money in discard (which card though?)
create an event in discard to reset the tally if not blueprint

[red flower]

you probably wouldn't need to reset the tally

in an event i mean

you can save which index of cards trigger the dollar count and return it for those

and then reset that index the next time pre_discard comes around

[ivory coral]

so what youre saying is
run through cards in pre_discard, check which card makes the tally reach the specified value and save its index
find that card in discard and return money for it
then next time pre_discard is calculated reset it beforehand

[red flower]

yeah

i havent worked too much with blueprint tho so maybe there's something better

[ivory coral]

sounds reasonable enough
perhaps difficult to make work as a loc var to display on the card though

but ill give it a shot

[red flower]

you would just display the tally after pre_discard

[ivory coral]

true and since it uses the index instead of the tally for calculation the tally can just be like cosmetic

[hidden sable]

how can i check if the player is currently moving the mouse, pressing anything on the mouse, or pressing a key

like basically doing anything

[rough furnace]

is this a are you pressing a key at x time or you want to be let known when they do something?

[hidden sable]

like

i basically want to check a boolean if they are doing ANYTHING

pressing a key

moving their mouse

[modern kindle]

you can check love.mouse and love.keyboard

[hidden sable]

idk how never used love

might have to

dumb it down

[modern kindle]

https://love2d.org/wiki/love.mouse
https://love2d.org/wiki/love.keyboard

[rough furnace]

balatro has an event system too

[hidden sable]

my main goal is to have a boss blind that at random intervals will tell you to stop moving and if you move the run loses

[rough furnace]

probably want
https://love2d.org/wiki/love.keypressed
https://love2d.org/wiki/love.mousemoved
https://love2d.org/wiki/love.mousepressed
https://love2d.org/wiki/love.wheelmoved
https://love2d.org/wiki/love.gamepadaxis
https://love2d.org/wiki/love.gamepadpressed

[winter flower]

i'm (really) new to this, and i have no idea why this keeps happening

[rough furnace]

a string is not a frawable

also this code won't work

ou;re first off overwirting love functions that balatro uses and also these are only being loadrd when your caculate tuns

what are you trying t odo?

[winter flower]

"flash" an image after a hand is played
(and then game over right after which that part works)

[clear ocean]

-- Thank you to nh6574, unusedparadox, and eremel_ for help with the Counter-Strike jokers
SMODS.Joker({ -- Counter-Terrorist
    key = 'cTerrorist',
    pos = { x = 0, y = 0 },
    rarity = 3,
    blueprint_compat = true,
    eternal_compat = true,
    perishable_compat = true,
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = 'terroristSource', set = 'Other' }
    end,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.retrigger_joker_check and not context.retrigger_joker and context.other_card ~= self and not context.other_card.config.center.original_mod then
            return {
                message = localize("k_again_ex"),
                repetitions = 1,
                card = card,
            }
        end
    end
})
SMODS.Joker({ -- Terrorist
    key = 'terrorist',
    pos = { x = 0, y = 0 },
    rarity = 3,
    blueprint_compat = true,
    eternal_compat = true,
    perishable_compat = true,
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = 'terroristSource', set = 'Other' }
    end,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.retrigger_joker_check and not context.retrigger_joker and context.other_card ~= card and context.other_card.config.center.original_mod then
            return {
                message = localize("k_again_ex"),
                repetitions = 1,
                card = card,
            }
        end
    end
})
``` i think these don't fit for what i'm going for in the long run, but didn't want it to go to waste. feel free to use them yourselves

[rough furnace]

If you want to take this approcah you probably want to hook Game:draw and then insert your stuff after it, or use the UI system to render a sprite

[clear ocean]

what do you think? is the formatting correct? (i'll add the colours in a second)

[modern kindle]

prob add the colors to chips and such

[rough furnace]

it doesn;t make much sense

[clear ocean]

that's what i'll do i'm asking if the text itself is good

[clear ocean]

how so?

feel free to discuss i'm curious

[rough furnace]

"chips of the poker hand" mostly

[modern kindle]

gain chips from scored cards, resets on discard maybe

[clear ocean]

is there a better term? it's the total chips of a poker hand

[clear ocean]

SCORED cards

tried to keep the formatting in line with the vanilla jokers

was trying to write it along the lines of this and runner

[rough furnace]

Probably more of
When hand is played, add the chips of the played poker hand to this joker's chips
Resets when discarding

it's a bit wordy

maybe you can get away with remviing the "When hand is played"

[clear ocean]

Gains the chips of the played poker hand and resets when discarding?

[rough furnace]

it's a bit diffuvlt because you have both the chips of the poker hand and the joker

[rough furnace]

that seems pretty clear

[clear ocean]

thanks

[winter flower]

i got the image working but uhhh

[normal crest]

that adds up

[clear ocean]

@modern kindle @rough furnace what do you think

[granite nymph]

im tweakin

[clear ocean]

-- COMMON

SMODS.Joker({ -- Bubble Gum
    key = 'bubbleGum',
    config = { extra = { chips = 0 } },
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = 'bubbleGum1', set = 'Other' }
        return { vars = { card.ability.extra.chips } }
    end,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.before and context.main_eval and not context.blueprint then
            card.ability.extra.chips = card.ability.extra.chips + context.scoring_hand
            return {
                message = localize('k_upgrade_ex'),
                colour = G.C.CHIPS,
            }
        end
        if context.discard then
            local last_mult = card.ability.extra.mult
            card.ability.extra.mult = 0
            if last_mult > 0 then
                return {
                    message = localize('k_reset')
                }
            end
        end
        if context.joker_main then
            return {
                chips = card.ability.extra.chips
            }
        end
    end
})

outside of that error i think the rest i did right. kinda proud

is it something like

context.scoring_hand.chips? or something

fixed the discard problem, but that wasn't the crash

everything else works, but can't find much about how to get the chips from the scoring hand

looked on github and discord not much

[red flower]

like the base chips for the poker hand?

[clear ocean]

base chips of the played hands

[red flower]

or the chips the cards would score?

[clear ocean]

latter

currently looking over github wiki 😅 seeing if i missed something

[sonic cedar]

next on the list is these guys

[red flower]

you need to iterate through context.scoring_hand and check each playing_card.base.nominal

[clear ocean]

so do a loop of adding points of each playing_card.base.nominal?

[red flower]

yeah

[clear ocean]

is there a way to get the size of the played hand for the loop?

like if it's a pair it'll equal two and if it's a straight it'll equal five

    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.before and context.main_eval and not context.blueprint then
            local lChips = 0
            for i=1,5,1 do
                lChips = lChips + playing_card.base.nominal
            end
            card.ability.extra.chips = card.ability.extra.chips + lChips
            return {
                message = localize('k_upgrade_ex'),
                colour = G.C.CHIPS,
            }
        end
``` something like this? the five is a placeholder

[red flower]

#context.scoring_hand

you can also just do for _, playing_card in ipairs(context.scoring_hand) do

[clear ocean]

oh

thanks

let's give it a spin then

it works 👍 thank you

that was the last piece of the puzzle let me record to show yall

maybe i should record with a higher resolution

i just realised that this is level 3 boosts so don't have to deal with 8mb

[regal sentinel]

Quick question, is there a method that can be used in calculate to detect if my hand IS a three of a kind? I was looking around the steamodded wiki but couldn't find any.

[clear ocean]

-- The Trio
SMODS.Joker {
    key = "trio",
    unlocked = false,
    blueprint_compat = true,
    rarity = 3,
    cost = 8,
    pos = { x = 6, y = 4 },
    config = { extra = { Xmult = 3, type = 'Three of a Kind' } },
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { card.ability.extra.Xmult, localize(card.ability.extra.type, 'poker_hands') } }
    end,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.joker_main and next(context.poker_hands[card.ability.extra.type]) then
            return {
                xmult = card.ability.extra.Xmult
            }
        end
    end,
    locked_loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { localize('Three of a Kind', 'poker_hands') } }
    end,
    check_for_unlock = function(self, args) -- equivalent to `unlock_condition = { type = 'win_no_hand', extra = 'Three of a Kind' }`
        return args.type == 'win_no_hand' and G.GAME.hands['Three of a Kind'].played == 0
    end
}

here's a reference for the trio joker which xmults if it's a three of a kind which counts four/five of a kinds and full houses if i can remember correctly

hm. for bubble gum should it be unlocked and needed to be obtained or should i come up with some condition

maybe have a food item perish or win a round, ante, or run with few or no discards?

[red flower]

context.scoring_name == "Three of a Kind"

if you want contains then what ken said

[regal sentinel]

Thank you, I am brand new to making mods for balatro and couldn't find this anywhere on the steamodded wiki

[red flower]

it is there but i dont think theres an example

[rough furnace]

This will be balatro on the wii

[clear ocean]

Is there any palatte for the joker cards I should be aware of?

[rough furnace]

#🎨・fan-art message

[clear ocean]

set?

[rough furnace]

these three points

it's not a big deal people break rules all the time

idk I'm not an artisit

[modern kindle]

i breaking that all the time

[clear ocean]

progress

the question is... which one

[modern kindle]

dubble for shure

however, i offer an alternative

[clear ocean]

actually fire

i can even use this as a reference

[modern kindle]

i remember as a kid i never cared for the taste of these ones but man are they memorable

so is dubble bubble but the case of hubba bubba is built different

[clear ocean]

i have an idea of having the gum stick extend through out the background like madness

[foggy ginkgo]

How does one make it so if you play 4 stone cards cards it's considered a four of a kind

[clear ocean]

wow i suck at this

[sonic cedar]

handled (dilly my goat)

[modern kindle]

im just a helpful guy

[clear ocean]

@modern kindle what do you think

i'm not a good artist i did my best

[modern kindle]

you know
it might just be me but i think that would look sick if you could get pixel art of that and use it as a soul sprite or whatever theyre called

like the legendary jokers that have the thing floating over them

i think thatd look sick

[ivory citrus]

Hello, how can I remove the restriction that no more jokers are created when all slots are occupied?

[clear ocean]

it does but i believe there is a reason outside of hologram the legendary cards have that

makes it more unique

it might just be me but honestly i'm not a big fan on how this turned out

[modern kindle]

not to say its horrible or anything but it makes me think that this is some alien fella

and he has a lil face, and the yellow is his brain, and the gum coming out looks like a tail

[clear ocean]

yeah... at least i tried haha

i can see the lil face too haha

i'll go ahead and not use it but ill keep it as a project file

[chrome widget]

Having an issue where the game saving right after a consumable is used causes the consumable to be hanging in mid-air in a softlock upon reload

Does anyone know how to fix this?

[clear ocean]

regardless, i am proud of my work today. it's a solid vanilla like card

[jolly shadow]

does this like, reset when u discard a hand?

[clear ocean]

correct

[clear ocean]

@jolly shadow

[jolly shadow]

i feel like itd be better to word it more specifically

but also that is a nice ability well done

[clear ocean]

the reason i choose gum to visualise is that you keep chewing on it and when you spit it out thats like discarding it

[normal crest]

Gains chips equal to
the rank of scored cards.
Resets on discard

Is what I'd have done

[clear ocean]

is that more of a preference or you believe that's better in general

[modern kindle]

hi srock

[normal crest]

It's how it makes the most sense to me

[normal crest]

Hi

[clear ocean]

do you think what i wrote is like good enough for the average balatro player

wanted to make sure it's clear enough