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[bold sleet]

otherwise it will trigger itself again

[split cairn]

how can I make a consumable give a selected enhancement?

[daring heron]

like this?

[red flower]

yes

[bold sleet]

yup

-# god please tabulate your code correctly

[daring heron]

i dont know how 😭

[red flower]

if you have the lua extension just right click > format document

[daring heron]

oh nice

[wintry solar]

Or select from the add card line to the final end and press tab

This code isn’t too bad to be fair, it’s all indented correctly in respect to each other, just one less than it should be

[daring heron]

okay, now how do i make it keep track of the amount of gros michels broken and add that amount of cavendishes?

per ante, i want it to reset each ante

[quartz ravine]

If anyone would like a reference, here are the default drop rates for editions in the game

INFO - [G] This edition is e_negative weight = 3
INFO - [G] This edition is e_polychrome weight = 3
INFO - [G] This edition is e_holo weight = 14
INFO - [G] This edition is e_foil weight = 20

@daring fern thanks for the example of how to do render effects on decks! I was able to understand it after looking at the snippet you sent me!

It let me do this!

[red flower]

ohhh that looks good

[wintry solar]

-# there’s a lovely explanation of weights on the wiki shhhh

[quartz ravine]

Why am I gonna waste five mins reading the wiki when I can spend 30 minutes figuring out how to irerate through GPCenters object to filter out those beginning with e_ and do it myself

[bold sleet]

I'd suggest make it a variable. I do not know how to make persistent variables that don't get lost when you close the game.

[red flower]

just add them to G.GAME

[bold sleet]

huh?

[red flower]

G.GAME.variable_i_made = 5

that gets saved

[quartz ravine]

You can just add extra vars to the G.GAME table!

[bold sleet]

ah

I am guessing it can save tables.

[red flower]

i recommend using the mod's prefix just in case

[vast fractal]

does Smods blinds have calculate functions now?

[quartz ravine]

Real brogrammers store their entire mods code as XML in a G.GAME variable

[red flower]

yes

[vast fractal]

finally 😭

[primal terrace]

I am reworking the Starlight Glimmer

How would I go about checking for identical attributes between cards in the played hand?

[bold sleet]

So I can do G.GAME.FG.data?

[naive sun]

Hello everyone,
For my mode, I need to add chips/mult or xmult based on the other jokers, but at the trigger of a played card (unlike Baseball Man). However, for these values ​​to be taken into account in the calculation, I need to return them in my Joker's calculate function, which allows me to do this only once per played card.
Is there another way to add bonuses multiple times during a single evaluation of the calculate function (like going through G.E_MANAGER), or do I need to apply a patch to take into account a collection of return tables?
Thanks for your help!

[bold sleet]

Assuming I declare G.GAME.FG first?

[quartz ravine]

use ipairs to iterate through the played hand and add the rank, suit enhancement combo to a variable you increment @primal terrace

[red flower]

yeah i think so

[slender zenith]

which part here is wrong?

[bold sleet]

Still don't know the difference between pairs and ipairs

[slender zenith]

it doesnt crash or anything it just doesnt trigger

[red flower]

What's the code? You should be able to do that with a little change in the logic
But to answer your question you can as extra to a return to do more than one effect

[red flower]

ipairs is for an integer indexed table, pairs is for any table but doesn't guarantee order

[red flower]

most of it is wrong, you dont put the hook inside calculate and you can't return a calculate table in a hook
also ease_dollars should go outside the return or do dollars = 2

[bold sleet]

ah

[naive sun]

I've seen how extra works, but I need to return a table containing x values ​​for chips, mult, and x_mult, not a single value for each variable.

What I want to do is: When a card with an assigned edition is scoring, iterate over the jokers and activate the edition bonus if the joker's edition is the same as the card's.

[red flower]

like this?

return {
  chips = 50,
  extra = {
    chips = 50
  }
}

[vast fractal]

is there a way to detect if a joker/card/edition like trigger a +mult?

[naive sun]

Not really, let's assume I have 5 Holographic Jokers and I score a Holographic card, then I want to apply the Holo bonus (+10Mult) 5 times (once per Holographic Joker)

[red flower]

i dont get how extra doesnt accomplish that

other than maybe the timing

[wintry solar]

You need to use post triggers

That would make it super easy

[naive sun]

Extra allows me to apply additional bonuses 1 time, not multiple times as I wish.

[naive sun]

I don't know how post_trigger works, do you think it's suitable for my needs?

[red flower]

return {
  chips = 50,
  extra = {
    chips = 50,
    extra = {
      chips = 50
    }
  }
}

and so on

[naive sun]

I may be wrong, but it seems to me that balatro's code does not take into account nested 'extra' fields.

[unborn bay]

extra is an additional effect table basically

extra is uh

a smods feature

lmao

if you're talking extra like the extra table in the ability table that's just a way of storing values without fear of something else generally overriding it

[red flower]

it does, i literally have a system that concatenates a dozen extra tables

[wintry solar]

Extra is a vanilla feature 🤣

[wintry solar]

But yes, post triggers are sounds like exactly what you need, if you search for it in your ide (assuming you have your entire mods folder loaded) you’d be able to see how it is implemented (I haven’t wrote post trigger docs yet)

[slender zenith]

how do i see the code of vanilla jokers? more specifically DNA

i couldnt find any of the actual functionality in the files but i might be stupid

[red flower]

you can find them searching for the name of the card in card.lua

OR
https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/blob/d0e99fb83af5765f200adf2ffeb01ea732e60e6b/src/jokers.lua#L1351

[rapid stag]

question, would SMODS.create_card({ set = 'Spectral', edition = 'negative' }) be inclusive of soul cards and respect its rate?

[slender zenith]

holy crap thank you so much

[unborn bay]

SMODS.create_card is functionally a wrapper against create_card so yes

[rapid stag]

i see

[lofty sand]

anyone know where I can find the reference for joker in the card.lua? (jimbo, the plus four mult one, john balatro if you will)

[bold sleet]

-# hey, how funny colored lines for indentation and sh*t?

[maiden phoenix]

https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/blob/d0e99fb83af5765f200adf2ffeb01ea732e60e6b/src/jokers.lua#L14

[red flower]

i think it doesnt show up because it just has mult in the ability table so the game applies that directly

[naive sun]

Great, I'll dig around a bit to figure out how post_trigger works. Thanks for your help.

[slender zenith]

may have done something a liiiiiittle wrong...

[bright axle]

anyone knos how to localize a planet card?

[red flower]

localize { type = "name_text", set = "Planet", key = key }

for the name

[bright axle]

in a loclizatrion file

return {
    descriptions = {
        Joker = {
            j_cdv_bocette = {
                name = "Bocette",
                text = {"At shop end, consume a", "non-eternal {C:attention}Joker{}.",
                        "Adds {C:dark_edition}Negative{} copy.", "Gives {C:mult}+ #3#{} Mult and",
                        "{C:chips}+ #4# {} Chips per Joker", "Current: {C:mult}+ #1#{} Mult and {C:chips}+ #2#{} Chips"}
            },
            j_cdv_rebeca = {
                name = "Rebeca",
                text = {"At end of blind, create", "{C:dark_edition}Negative{} Celestial", "card for most played hand"}

            },
            j_cdv_creadora = {
                name = "Creadora",
                text = {"At start of round, replace", "random card in hand with",
                        "4 upgraded {C:attention}random{} cards",
                        "{C:inactive}(Uses {C:tarot}Tarot{C:inactive} and {C:planet}Celestial{C:inactive} enhancements)"}
            }

        },
        Planet = {
            c_cdv_haumea = {
                name = "Haumea",
                text = {"{S:0.8}({S:0.8,V:1}grd. #1#{S:0.8}){} Gradum augit", "{C:attention}Iugi",
                        "{C:mult}+#3#{} Plex et", "{C:chips}+#4#{} nummuli"}
            }
        }
    },
    misc = {
        poker_hand_descriptions = {
            ["Definitive Straight"] = {'5 cards in a row (consecutive ranks) with',
                                           'all cards alternating betwen two suits'}
        },
        poker_hands = {
            ["Definitive Straight"] = "Definitive Straight"
        },

        dictionary = {}
    }

}

i have this but it chrashes

[red flower]

looks fine to me, how does it crash?

[bright axle]

nil value

[red flower]

i would like the crash log

[red flower]

maybe it's the poker hand? i think you're using the wrong poker hand key in the localization

it says cdv_def_straight_Definitive Straight in the log

[bright axle]

nope the key is Definitive Straight i tries cdv_def_straight_Definitive Straight and cdv_Definitive Straight but none work

[cyan lagoon]

how do i use context.destroy_card?

[lofty sand]

hypothetically if I wanted to make Canio's effect work with any card, not just face cards, could I simply replace "face_cards" with "playing_cards"?

[red flower]

no, thats a local variable

you need to replace the counting logic
it would be simpler because its just #context.removed

[open aspen]

return {
message = localize('k_again_ex'),
repetitions = 1,
card = self
}

what happens if i returned this without context.repetition?

[lofty sand]

not "context.remove_playing_cards"?

[red flower]

context.remove_playing_cards has a field called removed that has all the removed cards

thats how canio counts them

[red flower]

nothing i think

why

[open aspen]

really??? 😭

i was hoping it would still repeat

[red flower]

im pretty sure it doesnt

[open aspen]

ugh

that is annoyin

[lofty sand]

does context.remove count everything including playing cards? if so why wouldn't the remove_playing_cards work?

[rapid stag]

you mark cards that meet your conditions for being destroyed in other contexts with some kind of boolean
then you do

  return { remove = true }
end```
here's how i do it in my joker that destroys cards by random chance. mine's a little fancy because i specifically tuned the sequence to make it go per card, but the general gist should be clear
i hope that helps ![cirDerp](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1200501923917348884.webp?size=128 "cirDerp")
it is usually fine to just use ``.getting_sliced`` for this purpose ~~as that has no other real effect aside from being the same name as what ceremonial dagger uses~~ 🤷‍♀️

[primal terrace]

How I am laying out solving this:

• Iterate through all played cards and add all their attributes (rank, suit, enhancement) as a concatenated entry into a new table in order, so that there is no overlap in the attributes
• Then, check through the new table for duplicate strings, and if there are more than three, return XMult

Still feel like a noob at this

Hopefully this sounds correct

[red flower]

context.removed is inside context.remove_playing_cards, you need to check for both

[red flower]

it is usually fine to just use .getting_sliced for this purpose as that has no other real effect aside from being the same name as what ceremonial dagger uses
It does, it prevents them from calculating

[rapid stag]

oh, right.
i guess it doesn't do that for what i did since i'm applying it in context.individual and not context.before

[red flower]

yeah because individual is just before destroy_card iirc

[red flower]

you can do table["rank_suit_enhancement"] = (table["rank_suit_enhancement"] or 0) + 1 and then check if any is >= 3

[open aspen]

it seems like it might

[wintry solar]

You shouldn’t need to apply getting sliced inside the destroying context

[primal terrace]

This is assuming "rank_suit_enhancement" is the combined string with all the card attributes, right?

[red flower]

yeah

[split cairn]

        for i = 1, #G.hand.highlighted do 
            G.hand.highlighted[i]:set_edition({negative = true},true)
        end
    end,
``` how do I this consumable give an enhancement or seal instead?

[red flower]

:set_ability("m_key") for enhancements
:set_seal("key") for seals

although i think consumables have an option to just give them the enhancement you want to make

[runic pecan]

How to check if a card is a consumeable?
As in, while we can use if v.ability.set == 'Joker' then to see if v is a Joker, we cannot simply use if v.ability.set == 'Consumeable' then because that is not how it works.

[open aspen]

Consumable btw

[split cairn]

would applying both an enhancement & seal at the same time work?

[red flower]

card.ability.consumeable iirc

[runic pecan]

I know, but the habit has formed.

[red flower]

you can do one after the other yeah

[runic pecan]

Would that be a table or a boolean?

[red flower]

no idea

[runic pecan]

I'll go check that myself.

[split cairn]

Like this?

[red flower]

yeah

[open aspen]

yep ur right, in state_events it checks specficailly for repetition context (makes sense)

fml

more patching

[red flower]

you can do this but for repetitions if you need to do it in another context ^

i dont see why you would need to patch

[open aspen]

huh?

[red flower]

what do you need to do

[open aspen]

this was my attempt at patching it

directly

[brisk rose]

huh, those editions which were showing up black /do/ do something

[open aspen]

oh i just realized

i never explained what i was doing

its not a specific joker i wanted to make a change for red seals 😭

[red flower]

whats the change

[open aspen]

simply make it work in other contexts

rn im trying to make it work for discards

[runic pecan]

It's a table.

[open aspen]

aka if u discarded with rebate

it gives u double money

very original idea here ik

[red flower]

i mean i wouldnt patch it, i would take_ownership but yeah thats more complicated

[open aspen]

what is take_ownership?

thats a new concept to me

[open aspen]

also, the issue is even if i do take ownership, for a red seal how would that work

[red flower]

it basically lets you replace parts of cards using the smods api

[open aspen]

is there a calculate function for a red seal

[slender zenith]

what's the different between 1x and 2x textures? i put them next to each other and it seems like 1x is... blurrier?

[open aspen]

wait

[slender zenith]

like whats the point of each

[open aspen]

im so dumb lowkey ofc there is

[red flower]

yeah, it still wouldnt solve your problem i think but it would avoid patches

[open aspen]

i think to solve my problem

i have to patch anyways

so that in state events when counting reps it checks for the context i want

[red flower]

x2 is for when pixel smoothing is on

[torpid glade]

Hey guys, Im getting started on making some mods and this is my first time coding. What program do you all use?

[slender zenith]

i see

[red flower]

vscode

[hardy viper]

2x is 2x the resolution of 1x (1x is 1x the resolution of 1x)

[torpid glade]

ok cool, thx

[slender zenith]

no it isnt

[hardy viper]

am i helpful chat

isn't it though

[slender zenith]

no

[open aspen]

what would happen if i did this

[hardy viper]

huh

i could've sworn

[slender zenith]

theyre the same size the other guy answered me

[red flower]

1x is 1/2 the resolution of 2x

[red flower]

thats not what i said

[hardy viper]

ok yeah

[open aspen]

cause then i could probably add a new eval in state_events that checks for context.repetition and context.discard being true

[slender zenith]

they are the same size though

[hardy viper]

i was about to say

[open aspen]

but im also worried that may horribly destroy the game somehow

[red flower]

no??

[slender zenith]

photopea is fucked to shit then they open as the same size

[open aspen]

this seems terrible idea

[frosty dock]

cursed af

[open aspen]

that has to frick up something right?

or is it technically okay

[frosty dock]

it would do close to nothing actually

[open aspen]

well by itself sure

but if i patch state_events to check for this

where context.discard == true and context.repetition == true

[slender zenith]

yeah youre right its double the size for some reason photopea makes it smaller if you place rather than open

my bad

[frosty dock]

just some rogue effects in context.discard meant for context.repetition

and no, you can't add repetitions like that

[open aspen]

not even if i change state_events

?

this is vanilla code

for red seals

what if i made the change i suggested and change that repetition_only at the end to be discard = true

[frosty dock]

smods code is substantially different from this. what i mean is that it's not reliable to add repetitions from the inside like this

[open aspen]

i see

to refresh waht im doing

i just wanted to have red seals do a repetition on other contexts

like context.discard

i feel ive gone down a wrong turn dark spiraling path with this current method of getting it to work

there must be an easier way

[frosty dock]

there's a bit of a logistical issue with repeating context.discard because it can destroy cards, but that can be worked around

[open aspen]

oh thats true

[frosty dock]

this is the relevant code as patched by smods

[open aspen]

i see

[frosty dock]

this is how repetitions are built into the main scoring phase of playing cards

[rapid stag]

why doesn't this condition enter?

[open aspen]

so i assume SMODS.calculate_repetitions changes reps based on whether the context and card added a repetition

[frosty dock]

you would then pretty much have to patch to integrate the repetition loop into the discard effect

[novel drum]

is there any way to get the key of the current stake instead of the number returned by G.GAME.stake?

[red flower]

hmm looks fine to me

[open aspen]

tryna work it out in my head here

[frosty dock]

it asks everything that can generate repetitions and puts them into reps

[frosty dock]

couple issue here, actually

context.end_of_round isn't unique and will trigger multiple times [context.end_of_round and context.main_eval is correct for a single trigger]

SMODS.create_card won't put the card where you need it, you should use SMODS.add_card for that

iirc it also expects edition = 'e_negative'

[open aspen]

weirdly to me it feels like it should just work if i added repetitions = 1 to any context

i know thats wrong

partly cause i tried that a while back

[frosty dock]

repetitions are specifically checked in any repetition context, not anywhere else

[torpid glade]

Another question rq. In the source code, where can I find the code for the joker cards specifically?

[frosty dock]

that's mainly because anything else would require an unlimited amount of repetition layers

[open aspen]

so how would i add a repetition when discarded in that case

if its not checked

i realize atp im just asking to have it spelled out, its quite hard to wrap my head around somehow

[frosty dock]

depends on what part of them. you'll find metadata like names, keys, price, rarity, etc. in game.lua. code for calculation and similar are in card.lua (just search for the names in those files)

[torpid glade]

Ok cool, thanks

[frosty dock]

let me make a diff

[open aspen]

i usually do ctrl-shift-f to search all files, look for the joker name directly, find the key, then search for the key

[red flower]

also self promotion 🙂 https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/blob/main/src/jokers.lua

[frosty dock]

vanilla usually doesn't use keys

[open aspen]

oh yea

doesnt it normally just straight up check == 'some string'

[red flower]

sometimes it doesnt even use the correct names!

[rapid stag]

i wish the wiki was less misleading about this
i figured that based on what it says here, that it would just do it

[novel drum]

looking at G.P_STAKES[G.GAME.stake] but i sort of doubt that'll work on a modded stake

[cyan lagoon]

how do i make a joker shake like booster pack?

[frosty dock]

read up

[rapid stag]

...i see

that's confusing

[hard mica]

Is there any documentation for the API? I wanna read it and get a hang onto the funcs n stuff , also is there an extension for VC? Cause I like it so it auto fills , more convenient imo

[frosty dock]

SMODS.create_card is a direct mirror of vanilla create_card, just with a different/extended param structure. this is also needed sometimes

[red flower]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/
Also you can add smods to your workspace and it will have autocomplete for it

[rapid stag]

well it works now, so thanks

[open aspen]

hmm

[hard mica]

Thank you very much!!

[hard mica]

How can I find smods?

[red flower]

it should be in your mods folder if you installed it, else install it following that link

[quartz ravine]

How do I check what the red notification means in the discord mobile app?

[frosty dock]

nvm i don't have the patience to work this out in full

[open aspen]

is it that hard 😭

[open aspen]

all good

[brisk rose]

you grab a phone and look at your notifs i gues

lol

[open aspen]

i appreciate every bit of help so far

[brisk rose]

idk where they are on decktop

[frosty dock]

it's no different than how repetitions work elsewhere, I just haven't touched it in a while and would have to remind myself of how exactly they function

[quartz ravine]

The IOS app is weird!

[open aspen]

ill look into it when i have some free time

[slender zenith]

made my first joker :D

[quartz ravine]

Hey @brisk rose I did a new release and gave you a shout out for your ideas!

[frosty dock]

this thing

[quartz ravine]

Now that’s a fun idea. What about virus? Spreads an enchantment or edition or seal from one card to the other, if played first hand is a pair

[slender zenith]

thats a good idea i'll try

[open aspen]

twas confused upon seeing this

amazing tho congrats

[quartz ravine]

Apoptosis - destroys cards for last discard of each round

Could be another fun take on the cellular gimmick

[slender zenith]

i like that

[daring heron]

how do i make a spectral look like the soul, and appear like the soul but in buffoon packs instead of arcana packs?

[scarlet thorn]

soul_pos is the location on an asset sheet,
In_pool for the baboon pack

[slender zenith]

baboon pack

[scarlet thorn]

Autocorrect

[daring heron]

wait huh?

[runic pecan]

Which one looks better?

[open aspen]

right, but change it to "if no cards were selected"

[manic rune]

civilization

[runic pecan]

For a second I thought I misspelled, lol.

[manic rune]

oh damn, im sorry 😭

[daring heron]

hm..

[viscid lagoon]

does anyone have an example mod of booster packs and/or vouchers?

[rapid stag]

question, how can i, in its return table, get a joker to juice without any message?

[flat sorrel]

why does it need to be part of a return table, as opposed to just callingcard:juice_up()?

[daring heron]

why is this crashing? i don't even think that's my code

[rapid stag]

...i guess there's no specific reason, huh.

[polar star]

any ideas on what the easiest way is to check if someone doesn't spend any money in the shop (per round)?

[daring heron]

idunno if that would work or how but probably add the money spent to a vars and check if it's 0

[polar star]

how do you track the money spent?

[daring heron]

no idea

[slender zenith]

art is ugly as hell but it works

i removed the blueprint compat i forgot before that screenshot

[scarlet thorn]

Make an event with juice

If you just call it no event, it will juice at the beginning of calc

[rapid stag]

i actually just put it in the func

because i am a cursed individual

[scarlet thorn]

That also wokrs

[lofty sand]

yo can someone with a brain (not me rn) help me debug some code? lol

joker works fine, only issue is values display as +nil and I'm not sure why

[rapid stag]

let's take a look. show us what's wrong

[lofty sand]

cool, here

no nitro, sorry :(

don't judge too harshly this is literally my first time working with lua lol

[rapid stag]

so the #1# and #2# are defined in the vars table inside a table returned from loc_vars, which you do not have. so since there isn't anything, they show as nil

[lofty sand]

oh that was supposed to be my loc_def table, could I just change that to local_vars?

[rapid stag]

that won't do anything, since all you're doing is just making a random variable with a name in your calculate function

i'd recommend reading up on how it works on the wiki https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Localization#Localization-functions

[lofty sand]

theres a wiki

holy fuck

thank you

[flat sorrel]

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = 'functions/common_events.lua'
pattern = '''
function ease_dollars(mod, instant)
'''
position = 'after'
match_indent = true
payload = '''
    if mod < 0 then
        # money has been spent
    end
'''

although this will also trigger in non-shop contexts so also check if G.STATE == G.STATES.SHOP

[polar star]

yeah, we also found that tracking just money has some loopholes but we found an idea that will hopefully work

like with the spectral card that turns your money to 0 and stuff

[rapid stag]

it expects a string for the key of what you're trying to add in SMODS.add_card(). because it's not sent as a string, it's trying to parse a variable with that name instead and is getting confused

[torpid plume]

hey gang i’m having an “attempted to call a nil value” error and i’m not seeing what could be wrong- all the code i have rn is posted in #1371331136961380382 if anyone wants to take a look and try n help

[daring heron]

oops lol

well it's still crashing but different

[rapid stag]

the key you passed is likely not a valid key.
keys in this context always need to have their set type prefix
and if they're from your mod, they need your mod prefix, too
the standard formula for, for example a mod joker, is
j_[your mod prefix]_[your joker's key]

[daring heron]

oops

[quartz ravine]

Jeeze, that was fast!

To me that’s a powerful card. It would be cool if it’s sell value increased per card you destroy as an added perk.

It’s a godsend for deck fixing and especially if you use Obelisk

[quartz ravine]

Check out my mod, I’ve got five custom boosters that all do different things

[slender zenith]

i think the sell value would be a little op because i wanna keep it uncommon

[slender island]

wtf

nvm, i figured it out

[daring heron]

would this even spawn?

i tried to make it a 100% chance for testing

[scarlet thorn]

No

[daring heron]

why not?

[daring heron]

why not? and how would i make it actually spawn?

[scarlet thorn]

Remove the thing that makes it not ik through pool

[daring heron]

oh lfmao

[daring heron]

hm, still doesnt work

it only spawns in spectrals

[slender island]

is stealing ideas from reddit to practice in coding a good idea?

[daring heron]

most of the ideas ive seen are pretty good

[lofty sand]

yo if the key a_chips="+#1#" then what is +#2#?

I think I got the jist, just no idea how to replace +#2#

[daring heron]

my spectral card isnt spawning in buffoon packs, how do i fix this?

[viscid lagoon]

where can i find it?

[placid star]

i have a consum that spawns a tag, every other tag works fine but this one crashes, are there any fixes?

[placid star]

i think soul rate should be 1?

[daring heron]

i think it's 0.003 lemme check

but that was just for testing purposes

[red flower]

i remember cryptid had a fix for this

[daring heron]

might me 0.3%

[brisk rose]

Once again, anybody have any ideas how to get negative to do the thing and shut it isn't

[daring heron]

yep

0.3

[brisk rose]

I presume I just have to pass different values to the zhzder, but I don't know which to which ones or why it isn't able to pull unseen automatically

[placid star]

any idea where it might be?..

[red flower]

nope sorry
you can try looking for tag_orbital

[red flower]

it's in the file for pointer

[lofty sand]

yo if I use loc_vars like this...

            return { self.ability.extra.chips, self.ability.extra.chip_mod }```

 to return two different values, is there any reason they should display as nil?

[placid star]

is there an easy function to find the most played hand?

wait found it

[red flower]

depends on what you define as easy, you can edit what obelisk does

[red flower]

you need to return { vars = {...} }

[lofty sand]

o sheit you right

[placid star]

in terms of this, id need a if for if its an orbital tag but since addtag is only taking in a key what would i need to do?

[red flower]

add_tag takes a tag not a key

that's why you do Tag(tag.key)

[placid star]

ahhhh

[red flower]

you can just separate them

[placid star]

so Tag(tag.key).ability.poker_hand = ... in an if?

[red flower]

i wouldnt edit the values in the same line youre creating the object but yes something like that

[wintry solar]

Add “Small” as the second argument to where you create the tag iirc

[wintry solar]

I haven’t looked at your code but it is mega cursed for the ortalab shaders too

[placid star]

this doesnt work...

[hard mica]

i just add this folder in my mod folder?

[tired kestrel]

just in case, I want to ask, is there like a guide on how you can code a joker? Like how to know about the mults creating random jokers or torot cards or maybe even special ones like copycat ability?

[wintry solar]

Looks like it’s Tag(key, some_bool, blind_type)

[slender zenith]

could someone help me? why does this not work

[red flower]

do what eremel said but also you're not editing the tag object, you are editing the center

[slender zenith]

get_enhancements returns a table so i think thats why but i dont see how else i can get it

[red flower]

no, add it to the workspace in vscode
if you add it to your mod it will cause problems

[red flower]

you are defining a new local which overrides the previous one

[hard mica]

so just drag it in here?

[red flower]

go to file > add to workspace

[slender zenith]

yes that's intentional, i only set it to base at the start so it doesnt error if something goes wrong

[hard mica]

i added it now what? cause it doesnt autocomplete lol

[red flower]

i don't mean you're replacing the value, i mean you're overriding the entire variable by making a new local with the same name

[slender zenith]

oh right i didnt know how lua worked mb

[red flower]

if you do SMODS. it doesn't?

[slender zenith]

imma try some bandaid fix for my problem though

[red flower]

you need the lua extension as well

[hard mica]

i think it does

[red flower]

hmm that looks like normal vscode autocomplete
do you have the lua extension?

[hard mica]

how is it named?

i searched steammoded or smods

[red flower]

search for lua and install the one by sumneko

there's no smods extension

[hard mica]

okay i got the extension

i think its good to go

[lofty sand]

does anyone know where a debug print might show up? I'm trying to see if my config extra table is properly initialized and the self.ability.extra is being initialized before I try to access them

[hard mica]

it says its undefined

[shrewd fox]

Hi, I have what I think is a fairly complex joker concept to implement and I'm not sure where to get started, just need some pointers.

The closest vanilla card is Pareidolia but looking at how that works in VanillaRemade doesn't give me much of a hint since the function it modifies is very specific to face cards

I also fully understand if it's just straight up not doable

[red flower]

weird, you might need to restart? im not sure

[red flower]

the lovely console or the debugplus console if you have that

[lofty sand]

it wasn't showing up on debugplus when I loaded the mod or when I triggered the joker, how do I open the lovely console?

[red flower]

it opens with the game

[lofty sand]

oh that console lmao

durr

[red flower]

or you can look at the logs under Mods/lovely/logs

[lofty sand]

oh good call

[red flower]

hi dilly

[wintry solar]

Not really doable right now

[modern kindle]

Hi n :D

[hard mica]

i did , still undefined lmao

[red flower]

no idea then sorry

[daring heron]

oh btw how do i make my spectral card destroy all other jokers?

[hard mica]

its fine dw

[daring heron]

anyone?

[woeful stratus]

this replaces the rank

it doesn't count as both

[slender zenith]

ah

my bad

[hard mica]

if anyone finds the solution to this , would be appreciated

[tired kestrel]

Uhh.. I'm sorry if I interupt but right now I still want to ask if there is a detailed guide on making jokers

and also geting to know how they function

[daring heron]

does anyone know how i can make my spectral card destroy all jokers in hand? i tried looking at the balatro code but that didnt work

[plain apex]

you have jokers in hand and not in the joker slots?

[slender zenith]

assuming you mean in the joker slots, https://github.com/SpectralPack/Cryptid/blob/4c791ed4eda9c66c2e7755b57babb18736c725f0/items/exotic.lua#L4

[brisk rose]

Yeah they kinda work if I don't render the original dissolve shader first, but only kinda

[daring heron]

yeah joker slots

[daring heron]

no idea which part of that actually destroys it

[slender zenith]

me neither but that destroys all jokers so

[placid star]

Small?

[tired kestrel]

speaking of joker slots, I'm wondnering is it possible to make a joker card that can do any of these things:
copy a random joker card.
try to boost up any stats.
turn any stone cards into regular cards?

(just something to test modding if any)

[wintry solar]

add_tag(Tag(tag, false, 'Small')) like this

[placid star]

would that fix my issue of orbital tag not having a hand to level up?..

[scarlet thorn]

Huh

[wintry solar]

Yes

It should do

[rapid stag]

...what? oh you sorted it, unsure why discord decided to ping me now

[plain apex]

you'd probably want to do something similar to my thanos joker

                    -- Collect all cards separately
                    local jokers, consumables, hand_cards = {}, {}, {}

                    for _, c in ipairs(G.hand.cards) do table.insert(hand_cards, c) end
                    for _, c in ipairs(G.jokers.cards) do table.insert(jokers, c) end
                    for _, c in ipairs(G.consumeables.cards) do table.insert(consumables, c) end

                    -- Function to destroy a rounded-up half of a card list
                    local function destroy_half(card_list)
                        local num_to_destroy = math.ceil(#card_list / 2)
                        for i = 1, num_to_destroy do
                            if #card_list > 0 then
                                local randomIndex = math.random(#card_list)
                                local target = card_list[randomIndex]
                                if config.sfx ~= false then
                                    play_sound("fn_dust")
                                end
                                target:start_dissolve()
                                table.remove(card_list, randomIndex)
                            end
                        end
                    end

                    -- Destroy cards separately
                    destroy_half(jokers)
                    destroy_half(consumables)
                    destroy_half(hand_cards)

                    -- Create a Legendary Joker
                    local new_joker = create_card("Joker", G.jokers, true, 4, nil, nil, nil, "")
                    new_joker:add_to_deck()
                    new_joker:start_materialize()
                    G.jokers:emplace(new_joker)

                    return {
                        message = "Balanced...",
                        colour = G.C.MAGENTA
                    }
                end
                return true
            end}))
        end
    end
}

[scarlet thorn]

Any chance you can send the init function for tags. I never noticed the extra args while making better tags

[plain apex]

@daring heron

[hybrid shadow]

how do i write out colors for badge_colour in rarity

[daring heron]

but does anyone know how i can delete all the current jokers?

[daring heron]

yeah?

[plain apex]

the thing i just sent discord bugged and didn't reply

[scarlet thorn]

HEX("XXXXXX")

[hybrid shadow]

do i keep the quotes

[scarlet thorn]

Ye

[hybrid shadow]

k

[daring heron]

well i have no idea which part actually destroys them

[scarlet thorn]

Interesting

[plain apex]

target:start_dissolve()

[daring heron]

and how do i make it target all?

[wintry solar]

Orbital tags specifically require the blind type to populate their hand

[plain apex]

you'd do similar to my thanos joker that i sent that targets everything then halves it you'd just remove the non joker targets and remove the part where it halves it

[dull sage]

This is a long shot, probably making this too complicated - I have a seal that will change between 3 random values every round. At the moment I am able get the change to value on all instances of that Seal, that bit is easy, but I'm wondering if it's possible to have different values for each instance of the Seal.

[daring heron]

i still dont know how i would do that

[lofty sand]

the text I'm trying to display is,

        "{C:chips}+#2#{} Chips when each",
        "playing card is destroyed",
        "{C:inactive}(Currently {C:chips}+#1#{C:inactive} Chips)",```

how I'm trying to return those values is with the loc_vars function, that wiki you linked me to says that ```return { vars = {self.ability.extra.chips, self.ability.extra.chip_mod} }``` should return as +#1# and +#2# respectively, yet it just returns as +nil and +nil, so I'm trying to figure out how to use the keys, I figured out that I just had to define whatever key I wanted as +#2#, but if what I'm doing is nonsense then lmk lol

[red flower]

card instead of self

[rapid stag]

what is in your extra table

ah

[lofty sand]

config = { extra = { chips = 0, chip_mod = 50 } },

[hybrid shadow]

idk how this would be done but my best guess is to have the random variable be randomly applied when the seal is applied?

[rapid stag]

yeah, card instead of self then

[wintry solar]

That’s very simple, can you screenshot your current code?

[hybrid shadow]

like have an initial randomization between the variable

[lofty sand]

replace self with card in all of my functions?

[next timber]

ok seriously where tf are my cards

[tired kestrel]

how did this even happen?

[next timber]

@tall wharf you are good with ui. do you know why the cards arent there (sory for ping)

[next timber]

custom cardareas are weird

there are cards in the new cardarea. where are they

[lofty sand]

nah, still displays nil

[next timber]

wait my patch isnt patching

wha

[rapid stag]

what does your loc_vars() look like?

[next timber]

nvm no it is patching

[lofty sand]

        card.ability = card.ability or {}
        card.ability.extra = card.ability.extra or { chips = 0, chip_mod = 0 }
        return { vars = {card.ability.extra.chips, card.ability.extra.chip_mod} }
    end
}```

oh wait

OOPSIES :))))

[wintry solar]

Never use self, you want to use the card reference instead

[rapid stag]

loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)

[lofty sand]

deleted more than I meant

[lofty sand]

still nil tho lmao

[daring heron]

so something like this?

nope..

why is it so hard to just destroy all jokers?

[tired kestrel]

even though I have not gone through the destryo joker section yet, I can see that it's hard too, even if someone who hasn't figured out about how to trigger any random joker?

[placid star]

could you not just do a ipairs(G.jokers.cards) v:start_dissolve()?

[tall wharf]

it's not being drawn lmao

hook CardArea:draw

[placid star]

how does the pools var work for cards? e.g. pools = {[collection} = true where is this stored? i checked G.P_CENTER_POOLS but cant find it

[shrewd fox]

ok, new idea:
Straights can wrap around
(ex: Q, K, A, 2, 3)

in theory this should be far more possible but I'm not too sure
(I'm looking at how shortcut works in vanilla remade and I'm struggling to figure it out)

[daring heron]

nope..

[placid star]

code?

[hybrid galleon]

Is this too much for a single joker? I guess it's not hard to understand the ability as it's mostly just Marvel + Stone Joker, but it is very, very long compared to any vanilla jokers.

[placid star]

no i meant...

nevermind

do this:

[daring heron]

huh?

[placid star]

for i,v in ipairs(G.jokers.cards) do
  v:start_dissolve()
end

[plain apex]

here modified one of my things this destroys all jokers

SMODS.Consumable{
    key = 'LTMPolychromeSplash',
    set = 'LTMConsumableType',
    atlas = 'Jokers',
    pos = {x = 4, y = 5},
    loc_txt = {
        name = 'Polychrome Splash',
        text = {
            'Destroy all jokers'
        },
    },
    config = {
        extra = { cards = 1 },
    },
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, center)
        info_queue[#info_queue + 1] = G.P_CENTERS.e_polychrome
        return { vars = {} }
    end,
    can_use = function(self, card)
        return G and (#G.jokers.cards > 0)
    end,
    use = function(self, card, area, copier)
        if not (G and G.jokers and #G.jokers.cards > 0) then
            print("No Jokers to destroy.")
            return
        end

        for i = #G.jokers.cards, 1, -1 do
            local target = G.jokers.cards[i]
            if target then
                play_sound("slice1")
                target:start_dissolve()  -- Initiates card dissolution
            end
        end
    end,
}

[dull sage]

This is what I've changed it too but now I'm getting the "attempt to index field 'config' [a nil value]" error when hovering over the seal

[placid star]

why use an if...

[wintry solar]

card.ability.blablabla

[plain apex]

well thats not what the card even was originally i just modified one of my existing ones real quick lol

[dull sage]

No error now but all my values are nil

[placid star]

ahh yeah that makes sense lmao considering that would be needlessly inneficient

[weary sentinel]

where can I commission someone to code my jokers for me

[placid star]

me me me

[plain apex]

what it actually does is checks if you have any jokers or playing cards if you do then theres a 50% chance to either destroy 1 or make it polychrome

[placid star]

why not use if #G.jokers.cards >0 or #G.playing_cards >0 ?

[wintry solar]

Likely need to generate the card again

[placid star]

@wintry solar this no workie

[dull sage]

I reloaded the game and started a new run

[plain apex]

idk my code is very inefficent like everywhere probably lol

[daring heron]

btw might be a really stupid question but how do i give my mod an icon?

[wintry solar]

Still says just poker hand?

[red flower]

make an atlas with the key modicon

[plain apex]

given the original code is 886 over limit im going to go with yeah its just horribly inefficient but works

[tired kestrel]

Umm, guys does anyone know where to start coding a joker?

[sleek cliff]

so I put this code into here, still nothing

[tired kestrel]

Like I was tihnking of mkaing a copycat joker that can just like copies a random joker.

as a test first.

[dull sage]

Yeah I'm stumped

[plain apex]

but i also have a joker from when i started this mod whos full code can't even fit on screen so if i was to go about having efficient code i should probably start there

[daring heron]

why does my spectral appear so often? like almost every single pack..

[wintry solar]

Current code?

[plain apex]

maybe try setting rarity or weight?

[wintry solar]

Oh it’s a seal

Uhhh, it’s card.ability.seal.blablabla iirc

[daring heron]

soul_rate should do that

[tired kestrel]

Uhh... I'm sorry to interupt but I'm stuck trying to learn how joker codes work, I don't know if I missed anything even though I'm actually new to this but a little guide would help if any.

on coding.

Or how to mod a custom joker.

[timid zinc]

The first part is making a simple folder for your mod, then using SMODS.Joker

There's a wiki here for development: https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Your-First-Mod

You can also take a look at other mods and see how they handle such things

[plain apex]

have you watched the example mod tutorial?

[tired kestrel]

I did but I'm lost on how I can try to make a joker do a copycat of a random joker

[plain apex]

oh like blueprint?

[tired kestrel]

as well as trying to figure out how I can convert a stone card into a regular card

[tired kestrel]

yeah except copies a random card on the slot

not just only to the right.

[plain apex]

hm i have a legendary joker that works as a left and right blueprint but thats not exactly the same thing (could still send that if you want tho)

[tired kestrel]

Yeah,

[dull sage]

Ok good news it looks like each Seal has a different value now, but it's still showing "Male" in the UI for every seal

[tired kestrel]

Also, wished there's like tutorials about like custom abilities mostly.

[wintry solar]

It could be that I never migrated the fix to make it work into smods 🤔

[placid star]

wait no, i forgot to add tag.key it works now

[plain apex]

yeah that would be pretty helpful i mostly just look at other mods and see what they did and see if i can just use similar code to what they did

[placid star]

[red flower]

that code should be in main
and replace the whole "path to file" with the oath to the planet file

[wintry solar]

Do you have deck calculation turned on?

[dull sage]

Yup

[plain apex]

and of course the code is too long because almost all of my code is :/

[wintry solar]

Can you show where you enable it?

[tired kestrel]

True.

[dull sage]

Right at the top of my file

[plain apex]

first half

SMODS.Joker{
    key = 'Zorlodo', 
    loc_txt = {
        ['en-us'] = {
            name = "Zorlodo", 
            text = {
                "Dissociates so hard the he thinks he is ",
                "The {C:attention}left{} and {C:attention}right{} jokers",
                "Even if they cannot be copied"
            }
        }
    },
    atlas = 'Jokers',
    pos = { x = 3, y = 4 },
    config = {
        extra = {
            -- No additional properties required for now
        }
    },
    rarity = 4,
    cost = 4,
    blueprint_compat = true,

    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        -- Initialize a table for results
        local results = {}

        -- Identify left and right jokers
        local left_joker, right_joker
        for i = 1, #G.jokers.cards do
            if G.jokers.cards[i] == card then
                left_joker = G.jokers.cards[i - 1]
                right_joker = G.jokers.cards[i + 1]
                break
            end
        end

        -- Process the left joker, if it exists
        if left_joker and left_joker ~= self then
            context.blueprint = (context.blueprint and (context.blueprint + 1)) or 1
            context.blueprint_card = context.blueprint_card or card

            if context.blueprint > #G.jokers.cards + 1 then
                return
            end

            local left_result, left_trig = left_joker:calculate_joker(context)
            if left_result or left_trig then
                if not left_result then
                    left_result = {}
                end

                left_result.card = context.blueprint_card or card
                left_result.colour = G.C.GREEN
                left_result.no_callback = true
                table.insert(results, left_result)
            end
        end

[sleek cliff]

Ohhhhh

[plain apex]

second half

-- Process the right joker, if it exists
        if right_joker and right_joker ~= self then
            context.blueprint = (context.blueprint and (context.blueprint + 1)) or 1
            context.blueprint_card = context.blueprint_card or card

            if context.blueprint > #G.jokers.cards + 1 then
                return
            end

            local right_result, right_trig = right_joker:calculate_joker(context)
            if right_result or right_trig then
                if not right_result then
                    right_result = {}
                end

                right_result.card = context.blueprint_card or card
                right_result.colour = G.C.GREEN
                right_result.no_callback = true
                table.insert(results, right_result)
            end
        end

        -- Return the combined result
        if #results > 0 then
            return results[1] -- Return the first result (or adjust as needed)
        end
    end
}

[wintry solar]

Have you tried it multiple times?

[dull sage]

Yes?

[wintry solar]

SMODS.blueprint_effect would clean this up to about 8 lines of code

[wintry solar]

🤷‍♂️ I don’t see any reason it wouldnt change then

[plain apex]

damn i probably have the least efficient code on like everything then lol

[red flower]

remove the "path to"

[plain apex]

taking like 90 lines to do something that can apparently be done in 8

[next timber]

is it possible to make a cardarea not allow dragging the cards in it?

[sleek cliff]

Ok, so it exists now, but this pops up

[tired kestrel]

Oooh. nice! I'll try this out if any.

[dull sage]

Strange instead. Female via the console but Male via the game

[red flower]

check this
https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/blob/d0e99fb83af5765f200adf2ffeb01ea732e60e6b/src/jokers.lua#L4420

[next timber]

so this seal is a 1/3 chance for +1 chip and +1 mult? sounds pretty weak idk

[next timber]

figured it out, patched CardArea:set_ranks() to include the cardarea's type in the elseif for setting card.states.drag.can to false

[plain apex]

wild someone remade all of the stuff from vanilla?

thats honestly really helpful

[next timber]

is it possible to make a card area give all its held cards a button?

[red flower]

<-- someone

[red flower]

yes, i hook card:highlight for that

[dull sage]

It'll be +1 Chip if Male and +1 Mult if Female too. The Seals aren't where the main scoring happens, it'll be the Jokers that grant the most effect. Might tweak the numbers in the future

[shell timber]

bring back chipmult for agender

the mod that never was

[dull sage]

Uuuh I currently have Agender set for +3 chips if no cards in hand have a gender

[shell timber]

also that's where the arrows for monus cards in modernfluff come from btw

[tired kestrel]

By the way, somehow it got me thinkin' or rather an odd question I've seen some random custom Balatro jokers from other sites on my searches for like how I can make jokers randomly before I stumble across this server and I had the idea or thought of idea of actually making one into an actual joker that can work. though I wasn't sure about these though they were made by other artists, but I wasn't sure if they seem to worth making them into an actual joker in Balatro:

[shell timber]

you should probably ask the creator's permission if you do

[next timber]

you should probably ask the creator's permission if you do

[tired kestrel]

Yeah, I mean honestly even though I haven't gotten any contacts for these artist or creators but then again, yeah.

Although I was thinking just using one of the custom card designs just for testing or maybe just for fun but when I actually do a full mod, I wouldn't include the card art unless given permission from one of the artists.

Also I wasn't sure if any card artists outside from this server are in this server?

[next timber]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[tired kestrel]

But yeah

[next timber]

KILL THIS INDIVIDUAL

[karmic creek]

ok

[next timber]

thank you mods

[tired kestrel]

I do need to ask permission if I ever use these artworks.

[dull sage]

Mods, send them to the shadow realm

[nova eagle]

i have a question... what software do i need to write the code for custom jokers?

[shell timber]

any text editor will do

[dull sage]

A text editor

[nova eagle]

so writing it in the .txt file will work?

(this one i mean)

[dull sage]

Even notepad words - but if you don't want hate yourself I'd recommend a proper IDE. I'm using Visual Studio Code

[nova eagle]

could you maybe send me a link? im still new to lua, so i want to make this learning process as easy for myself as possible

[next timber]

https://www.google.com/search?q=vs+code+download

[nova eagle]

TANKS

thanks

caps lock, mb

[next timber]

lol

[placid star]

this code doesnt work, i know its the card = self line because it works when i remove it, any ideas?

[red flower]

remove it

lol

[placid star]

yeah but it uses context.individual

and i want the message on the joker, not the cards

[next timber]

card = card

dont use self in contexts

[red flower]

message_card = card

dont use card =

[next timber]

oh right yea mb

[flat sorrel]

self is the joker type, card is the specific joker card

[rugged helm]

how would i make a joker gain 3 Xmult per Ramen joker the player has?

[red flower]

is ramen a specific joker or a class of joker

[rugged helm]

specific

i.e. the joker that is named Ramen

[red flower]

xmult = 1 + 3 * #SMODS.find_card("j_modprefix_key")

[rugged helm]

splendid

[shell timber]

j_ramen

?

[rugged helm]

what context would this be under in the calculate function?

[red flower]

oh yeah i forgot that was a joker

[daring fern]

context.joker_main?

[red flower]

i assumed because of the name it was their mod lol

[rugged helm]

fair assumption tbh

hmm

i can't really tell if it's working

[red flower]

well you need to put it in loc_vars too

[rugged helm]

ohh wait

it worked

it added the X3 upon scoring

[tawdry shale]

i may be stupid but i'm trying to make a joker that gives x7 mult if the scored hand is a three of a kind with rank 7

currently it's doing nothing

[next timber]

the cards are card objects, not numbers

[rugged helm]

wait

hold on..

[rugged helm]

it added it Again lmfao

[next timber]

youll want to get uhh card.base.rank

i think

there are like 3 of them that give slightly different values so idfk lmao

[red flower]

or :get_id

[red flower]

again how

[daring fern]

card.base.rank doesn’t exist.

[tawdry shale]

also is there a way to refresh balatro w/ the new lua or do you have to close and reopen everytime

[slender zenith]

ive been trying to fix this for so long im really confused why this doesnt work

[next timber]

damm

[slender zenith]

this what it's meant to do

[rugged helm]

first hand it added x3 rank upon scoring, second hand it added the x3 again

[red flower]

and what's the problem with that

[daring fern]

Press ALT + F5?

[slender zenith]

he wants it to just be a flat x3 mult per ramen that's owned, not a gain on hand

[rugged helm]

s'posed to just be X3 per ramen the player has, not add X3 every time a ramen is scored

[red flower]

oh wait i get it, my comment was to do return { xmult = ... }

don't make it an scaling joker

[slender zenith]

it gives me the table for the enhancements variable, but the print(enhancement) part doesnt print anything

[rugged helm]

            card_eval_status_text(
                card,
                "extra",
                nil,
                nil,
                nil,
                {
                    message = localize({ type = "variable", key = "a_xmult", vars = {card.ability.extra.Xmult_ramen * #SMODS.find_card("j_ramen")} }),
                    colour = G.C.MULT,
                }
            )
                            return { xmult = card.ability.extra.Xmult + card.ability.extra.Xmult_ramen * #SMODS.find_card("j_ramen") }
                                message = localize{type='variable',key='a_xmult',vars={card.ability.extra.Xmult}},
                                Xmult_mod = card.ability.extra.Xmult,
                          }     
            end```

so this?

[red flower]

yes

[nova eagle]

so im trying to get my thing into the game, but it doesnt show up in my mod list for whatever reason

[nova eagle]

although it does show up in the mod manager

[red flower]

if you don't want the extra 1 do
next(SMODS.find_card("j_ramen")) and 3 * #SMODS.find_card("j_ramen") or 1

[red flower]

didnt it print the table with m_bonus

[slender zenith]

no thats the first print statement, the second one is empty

and it doesnt do anything to the card but juice it

[flat sorrel]

if the table is {m_bonus: true} then iteration should be via pairs, not ipairs

[rugged helm]

not sure i know what you mean

im not that good at lua yet

[slender zenith]

THANK YOU SO MUCH OH MY GOD

i have been trying this for so long you just solved it in 20 seconds

[red flower]

1 + 3 * number will give you x4 mult with 1 ramen x7 with 2 etc
what i sent you gives you x3, x6 etc

depends on what you want

[rugged helm]

ah

[nova eagle]

i need some help actually getting my mod into the game to test it out...

[red flower]

the problem is that if it's 0 it will multiply the mult by 0

[flat sorrel]

just do math.max(1, 3 * ramens)

[rugged helm]

yeah it should be 1 + (0.25 per tarot used) + (3 * ramens)

[red flower]

also

[tawdry shale]

still doesn't work </3

[nova eagle]

i tried following the tutorial, but it wont show up in game

[shell timber]

note that xmult_mod and all of that other stuff is the old way of doing it

you should do just

return {
  xmult = card.ability.extra.xmult
}```

[tawdry shale]

hold up

[red flower]

c:get_id() == 7

[minor magnet]

uhhh

how are straights calculated

i think smods rewrites straight calculation

[red flower]

yeah

check get_straight i guess

or ask @/aure s. smods

[tawdry shale]

good news, it does something now but it does x7 for each card and then also at the end at the top

[red flower]

you're missing a context check.
what's the effect?

[tawdry shale]

the effect?

[red flower]

of the card yes

[tawdry shale]

wdym by effect

[maiden phoenix]

isn't that legendary joker art from another mod?

[red flower]

what is it supposed to do

[rugged helm]

yeh

i'm gonna change it later on

[tawdry shale]

if the scored hand is a three of a kind of rank 7, the final score gets x7 mult

[rugged helm]

it's just there for testing purposes at the moment

referenced that mod's code a bit

[red flower]

does it need to be the final score or can it be on the timing the joker scores normally?

im asking because those are different contexts

[tawdry shale]

final score

[lofty sand]

is it possible to take effects from boss blinds and or decks and add them to jokers? for instance adding plasma deck's balance to a joker, or the arm's ability to de-level a hand?

[red flower]

then you probably need to do it in context.after
replace cardarea == G.play for that

or context.final_scoring_step

[red flower]

both of those are easy to do with calculate yes
there are a couple of mods that make jokers that have blind abilities directly as well

[lofty sand]

dope

[placid star]

can anyone tell why this doesnt work? it doesnt give me any money at all

[nova eagle]

can someone explain to me why my mod wont show up in game? i am hard stuck on this

[minor magnet]

this is the most cursed straight i've ever made

[daring fern]

Lua doesn’t work like if x == 1 or 2 or 3

[placid star]

is there any way to do it without doing if x == 1 or x == 2 or x == 3?

[daring fern]

Also why not just return dollars?

[daring fern]

No.

[placid star]

you can do that?

[slender zenith]

do you have a json file?

[flat sorrel]

you wrote steamodded: header instead of steamodded header. also the header is a deprecated approach, see https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Mod-Metadata

[daring fern]

Yes return dollars = card.ability.extra.dollars

[nova eagle]

uhhh... no... i just followed the tutorial i saw earlier

[slender zenith]

listen to amaryllis

[flat sorrel]

I've been using Extra Credit as a reference, but I can't figure out what the purpose of this file is: https://github.com/GuilloryCraft/ExtraCredit/blob/main/src/lib.lua Anyone know?

[red flower]

doesn't it initialize their global table?

[golden lake]

hi Balatrostuck dev here who uses same convention

this is used to initiate the mod init object

every joker's registering function is then added to this init object

and then the mod iterates over the init object

and adds every joker individually

[red flower]

oh the cryptid method

[golden lake]

from the INIT object

[nova eagle]

what do i fill in for these? or does it matter what i put there right now?

[golden lake]

don't call it that, cryptid doesn't own that

[unkempt thicket]

Shouldn't this work for tag context?

[golden lake]

before cryptid Codex Arcanum did that

[red flower]

i call it that pejoratively

[golden lake]

it's a good method

a clean method

[red flower]

agree to disagree

[flat sorrel]

I don't understand how it's actually being used though. ExtraCredit doesn't seem to be used anywhere in the actual source, and afaik new Jokers are initialized by simply calling SMODS.Joker?

[daring fern]

You need to put that in a seperate JSON file in your mods main folder and yes.

[red flower]

i dont think that's a tag context, it doesn't take regular ones AFAIK

[golden lake]

might be a redundancy then

but that's the usecase of creating an INIT object

[rugged helm]

what the fuck. william mutual

[nova eagle]

does the JSON just have to be a txt file?

[golden lake]

maybe EC had that at one point and the refactored

Balatrostuck has that because we deal with seven million merge conflicts every tuesday

[daring fern]

No? It has to be a JSON file?

[golden lake]

we would deal with seven octillion merge conflicts otherwise

[nova eagle]

yeah, i meant as a text thing tho

like i just make another text thing here and make it .json?

[flat sorrel]

Yes, it's a plaintext format

[nova eagle]

ok

does it have to be named anything specific?

[daring fern]

No, I don’t think.

[red flower]

how does it help

[golden lake]

every joker has its own file

meaning that if i work on joker X and my friend works on joker Y

we will not have to edit over the same file

[flat sorrel]

If each separate file individually just calls SMODS.Joker does that not work? Not familiar with lua in this respect

[tawdry shale]

it does it but after the hand is scored, like it'll be 51 x 7 and then it'll be 306 chips but it'll show up as 51 x 21 afterwards and stay that way until the next card is picked

[golden lake]

we are working in two separate files which makes comitting our changes cleaner

[nova eagle]

ok... so now the mod is being loaded... thats good. now i just need help understanding this

[red flower]

i just have my jokers in separate files and initialize them normally

i dont see the need for init

[golden lake]

i'll be real we'd have to rewrite the whole mod at this point so it stays there lol

we've been doing this since before SMODS had stuff like consumables support

[novel drum]

anyone know what variable controls how often finisher blinds show up? ik they show up every 8 antes in endless and i'm wondering if there's a variable i could change to make them show up every 6 instead (i.e. 6,12,18,24 instead of 8,16,24,32)

[slender zenith]

even worse art this time but

[red flower]

i dont understand

[flat sorrel]

do you have all the required fields in your metadata json? id, name, author, description, prefix, and main_file?

[cunning barn]

sometime this summer I'm gonna get back into jokestar. I know I'm CLOSE on KOT's coding but it's just not working right. might have to recode from scratch since I largely based it on another hand size-correlated Joker that probably had different variables
still excited about this mod but I'm really gonna have to buckle down to work on it

[nova eagle]

all but main file

what do i fill for that?

[slender zenith]

your main file

probably yourmod.lua

[tawdry shale]

i used context.after instead of context.final_scoring_step

it works now

[glad osprey]

ignore the shit colours my monitor tricked me

[nova eagle]

so in this case main.lua?

[flat sorrel]

it's a relative address. if your main lua file is in the same folder as the json, it's "name.lua". Otherwise "folder/name.lua" etc.

[tawdry shale]

only problem is it says "x7" twice

[slender zenith]

yes

[red flower]

what are you returning

[cunning barn]

reminder of the effect before I repost the code later today:

i have an effect involving scored cards but the main one is "gains x0.1 mult for every hand size above 8." the + hand size effect probably is gonna take way longer but I just want to get the xmult for hand size effect done and dusted

[red flower]

remove the message and the color

it does it automatically

[slender zenith]

uhhhh shit i have a problem

this works for three of a kind too

how do i make it if it IS a pair, not contains it

[cunning barn]

I think there's a separate variable for specific names of hand sizes

[red flower]

look at the image above you

[cunning barn]

*types

I called it for one of my jokers

[slender zenith]

LMAO ty

[tawdry shale]

cheers

[novel drum]

looks like it (unfortunately) uses the win_ante variable, gna check for mods that add a finisher blind before ante 8

[tawdry shale]

this card is triggering before the modded joker i did

does that happen with brainstorm or doesn't it always go left to right

the one on the left is my modded one btw

[red flower]

final_scoring_step is at the very end

that's why i asked if it was normal joker scoring instead

[tawdry shale]

o

my bad

[red flower]

if it's normal scoring then it's joker_main

[tawdry shale]

ty ty

[nova eagle]

OK! my mod is now in the game... issue is whenever i try to change profiles the game crashes

is there a fix to this?

i want to use unlock all to check to see if the sprite is loaded in properly... but i cant change away from my main profile

[slender zenith]

remove the mod change profiles and add it back?

doesnt fix the crash but

[nova eagle]

yeah... thats only a bandaid solution... but its a good temp solution

oooh

good news

[slender zenith]

it loaded?

[nova eagle]

it wasnt my mod that was doing that

i turned off the mod and relaunched, and it still crashed

close enough... glad i got it in the game... thanks yall for the help!

[slender zenith]

your joker needs to have an atlas inside of it

based on your previous screenshot it doesnt

under the key add atlas = 'cheese house',

[daring fern]

Keys can’t have spaces I don’t think.

[slender zenith]

idk if they can i was just going off of what he already has

if the sprite doesnt load after that remove the spaces in both your keys though yeah

[minor magnet]

can anyone help me with the jump cards

i'm having quite the trouble with these

[cunning barn]

OK i have another idea that's probably somewhat simpler?
all cards trigger as if they were queens
i.e. all cards in your deck trigger as normal but also are treated as Queens for jokers like shoot the moon, triboulet, etc.
realistically it won't be SUPER easy but I feel like with the servers help I could finish it in like a day

[novel drum]

can't seem to find any other mods that do this, so i think i'll have to use a lovely patch to override the use of the win_ante variable to proc finisher blinds

[minor magnet]

quantum ranks are currently impossible iirc

[cunning barn]

well that's just great I have to entirely rewrite the joker idea

[tawdry shale]

one last thing but i'm not entirely sure how chance works

i was thinking about making this a 1 in 3 chance

[daring fern]

They aren’t impossible it’s just a lot of work.

[minor magnet]

well, obv, but is it worth the hassle?

like you'd have to rewrite most of card:get_id()

[cunning barn]

for context it's based on senor cardgage from homestar runner and one of his things is that he refers to everyone by a butchered female name, and i want to reference that. my idea involving quantum ranks was my only one that I thought was unique. like pretty much every other idea was a super niche version of triboulet or shoot the moon etc
so back to the drawing board I'd rather not rewrite a ton of base game code

maybe something with wilds to make them viable. considering hes just generally spouting vaguely familiar gibberish most of the time

[spiral crown]

Is there a way to set rarity for a consumeable? I'm not seeing anything in the github for consumeables

[cunning barn]

ok i got it.
face cards become wild, retrigger wild cards twice
this has Probably been done but it works for me

[daring fern]

You mean the weight?

[next timber]

ughghh why cant i find what code makes use buttons turn red. this should be simple

[red flower]

isn't it like G.FUNCS.can_use_consumeable or something

[spiral crown]

I saw weighting on packs but not on the consumeblaes in them can that still be applied to the consumeables themselves?

[daring fern]

Consumable types can have weights but I don’t think individual consumables can.

[next timber]

yup, dunno why i didnt think to check that

[next timber]

what abt the soul and black hole though

[spiral crown]

I believe that uses the Soul_set and Soul_rate which can set a rate for a consumeable in a different sets booster pack

Maybe I could finagle that if I make 2 different "consumeable types" and make it so the higher rarity ones appear in the regular at a specific rate

[lofty sand]

trying to make a joker whose effect only triggers if played hand contains only stone cards, does anyone know how I could make something like that work?

[daring fern]

You would iterate over played hand to check if any card is not stone.

[nova eagle]

cool, that did the trick... thank you guys for the help

[slender zenith]

do you guys think this theme fits the effect?

[lofty sand]

how would you do that? I'm only familiar with checking individual cards for various events

[minor magnet]

i need help.

[lofty sand]

low key genius for the straight theme

[slender zenith]

okay thanks didnt know if it was a stretch or not xD

science themed mod so

[lofty sand]

only true bio nerds gonna get that so checks out

[daring fern]

for k, v in pairs(context.full_hand) do if not SMODS.has_enhancement(v, “m_stone”) then stone = false end end

[placid star]

does anyone know how to use juice_card_until? ik invis uses it but the only reference to it in its code is lit juice_card_until(self, eval, true) which crashes when I use it

[lofty sand]

awesome, always wondered what the k, v in pairs was used for. It kinda confuses me lol

[daring fern]

Use card and did you define eval?

[placid star]

nah i didnt define it, not sure what to set it as tho

[placid star]

and this doesnt work

[red flower]

key and value
as in table[key] = value

[lofty sand]

ahh damn that would have saved me a couple hours of pain

[red flower]

i usually try to give them more descriptive names

[red flower]

eval is a function which returns false when the juice should end
(so it's more like juice_card_while than until)

[next timber]

ok so what am i doing wrong here. when i try to engage a hearts, clubs or spades card it just Doesn't Stop making the destroy noise, and i can't destroy anything else, im presiming because its fille thde event queue or smth

(this is the function that gets called when you press the button given to a card while its in my custom cardarea G.rascal_room)

[red flower]

return true in the events

[next timber]

ah

what does that actually do btw i dont rlly understand events all that well

[red flower]

events re-add themselves to the queue until they return true

[next timber]

oh weird

might come in handy

[torpid plume]

hey y’all i’m getting an “attempted to call a nil value” error with a mod i’m working on. if someone would be able to help me out in #1371331136961380382 id appreciate it a lot as i can’t identify what might be causing the issue

[minor magnet]

can anyone tell me why this isnt working?

1. this is a hook
2. this is the only part changed

[red flower]

what is it supposed to do

[slender zenith]

jump cards are meant to count as any rank for straights

[red flower]

as far as I understand what that code is doing is that straights take one less card, but it's not allowing skips

you need skip = true for that but even then i dont think it would allow 2 jump cards

[minor magnet]

that's the issue

[red flower]

yeah straight calculation is one of the things that's stopping quantum ranks from being a thing so it's too far out of my field of knowledge lol

[next timber]

ok wtf. how come using a card has a seemingly random delay anywhere from instant to like. a whole second? at least it feels like a second, its probably closer to half a second lol

[red flower]

maybe it's because there are already events in the queue?

[next timber]

i cant think of anything else that would be in the queue

theres nothing going on

[red flower]

hmm no idea

[slender zenith]

how do i do the icon thing for my mod

the only examples i can find in my mod folder use the old steamodded header

[red flower]

make an atlas with key "modicon"

[slender zenith]

thats it?

[red flower]

ye

[slender zenith]

thanks

[next timber]

ok ive discovered something even weirder, doing it on a diamond card stops any future delay from happening??? it does also stop any more cards from being drawn after a new one is drawn to replace it for some reason but thats not my main priority rn lol

[lofty sand]

hey, I'm trying to make a joker that balances mult if played hand contains only stone cards. I've managed to get it to balance when a stone card is played, but if there's any more than one stone card played it doesn't balance. does anyone know what might be going on?

[red flower]

not without seeing the code

[lofty sand]

here:

too beeg no nitro :(

[minor magnet]

fuck it im making this way simpler

[sonic cedar]

How would one take ownership of The Devil? i can't seem to find its code

outside of its locvars at least

[red flower]

im pretty sure you can just return { balance = true } instead of doing most of that

but anyway the code should only work when all played cards, even unscored, are stone

you should also do calculations inside contexts instead of checking if the attributes don't exist

shameless plug but you should check out this to see how code in calculate should be structured
https://github.com/nh6574/VanillaRemade/blob/main/src/jokers.lua

[red flower]

the game checks if the consumable has "mod_conv" instead of the name for the ones that have it

[next timber]

ITS DUE TO HAVING ZERO CARDS IN HAND. ??????????????

why does having zero cards in hand cause events to have delays??

[lofty sand]

by unscored do you mean held in hand? cause that isn't the case in testing

[red flower]

no i mean unscored played cards

[lofty sand]

ah, isn't that irrelevant cause played stone cards are always scored?

[minor magnet]

ok so

i want to make it so

jump cards have no rank in a straight

but do have one outside of straights

is that possible

[red flower]

possibly yeah but that means that it should work as long as you play all stones as far as i see

[lofty sand]

also I can replace the whole plasma deck clusterfuck with return { balanced = true} ? lmao

[red flower]

yeah im pretty sure, it's pretty new

[lofty sand]

lmao fuck

[red flower]

without d tho, just balance

[next timber]

no d? 😔

[minor magnet]

it is,

hell yes

[next timber]

OKAY so it seems like when i don't have any cards in my hand for some reason the event queue gets flooded with events

honestly im surprised its not just flat out ending the run

[minor magnet]

wait can you lovely patch smods

if yes how

that would save me great hassle

[flat sorrel]

target = '=[SMODS _ "src/utils.lua"]'

[nova eagle]

how do i split this text into multiple rows?

[next timber]

{"line 1","line 2"}

or do you mean like where specifically should you split it

[flat sorrel]

you make loc_txt.text an array of lines, as stated

[sonic cedar]

wait so then how would i detect usage of a certain one or does taking ownership still work

[red flower]

if you take_ownership and don't change the config then it's going to still do the effect

if you want to change it you need to change the config to delete the mod_conv or change it to another enhancement

[nova eagle]

nope

[next timber]

not at all what i meant

remove the {line 1} parts

the rest is good

and put commas at the end of each line but the last

outside of the quotes

text = {
  "blah blah blah",
  "blah blah blah 2",
  "blah blah blah some more"
}

[sonic cedar]

well im not trying to change the enhancement it gives im trying to count each time one's used

so im trying to figure out where i'd add the counter increment

[nova eagle]

cool, thx

[red flower]

what do you need to count it for
you could just use context.using_consumeable

[sonic cedar]

can i do that in the main file

[red flower]

you can hook SMODS.calculate_context

[sonic cedar]

ill whip something up brb

[next timber]

searching for checks of #G.hand.cards < 1 or #G.hand.cards == 0 or #G.hand.cards <= 0 has given no asnwers. am i gonna have to search through all 800+ instances where Event is called in the game

[red flower]

might have something to do with the game trying to draw cards when the hand is empty?

[next timber]

ok its only 400 events. thats better

[next timber]

maybe? but i checked everywhere where it checks for a <= 0 hand size and nothing came up

looking through the instances of draw_card

i see

draw_from_deck_to hand (very lengthy function name, thunk) is getting called. a lot.

[minor magnet]

JUMP CARDS ARE DONE

MONUMENTAL

[lofty sand]

how would you go about this? If I run this without checking for a non full hand it reads as nil and crashes