💻・modding-dev

[manic rune]

no probs :p

[mellow prism]

losing my mind over this code. it's almost functional but i can't for the life of me seem to get the contexts right for this effect to trigger at any time but when the cards are brought up to the scoring area rather than on trigger, though the message itself does happen after every trigger

i might be missing something obvious

[daring fern]

Change the contexts to context.before

And iterate over the played hand instead.

[mellow prism]

so only context.before?

[daring fern]

Yes.

[mellow prism]

do you mean for other_card as well

[manic rune]

i have

so many questions

what do you mean.ability.consumeable.max_highlighted????

isnt max_highlighted in the config table?? 😭

[daring heron]

yeah i cant find that

nvm

[manic rune]

HELLO?????

IS THIS NECESSARY 😭

WHY CANT YOU JUST USE THE SAME

dsaldmsal

its easy to fix but oh my freaking god is it so weird

[dapper sun]

i tried modifying marble joker code to try and add a card but it isn't working,, ,

[daring heron]

still cant find where the seal code is

[daring fern]

Just use the code you did with the shaders and replace it with the code that puts a seal on something.

[daring heron]

thats the problem

i dont know what part does that

[daring fern]

G.shared_seals[self.seal].role.draw_major = self
G.shared_seals[self.seal]:draw_shader('dissolve', nil, nil, nil, self.children.center)
if self.seal == 'Gold' then G.shared_seals[self.seal]:draw_shader('voucher', nil, self.ARGS.send_to_shader, nil, self.children.center) end
``` Just replace `self.seal` with `"Red"` for example.

[shut crater]

You probably need to be using the event manager

All of the score calculation code gets runs instantly when play is pressed. Any animations that happen are a result of events that were queued up during the calculation

[mellow prism]

not terribly familiar with the event manager so ig that'll be a useful exercise

been trying to keep stuff as clean as possible

alas

[daring heron]

like this?

[mellow prism]

any suggestions on how to start with that?

[shut crater]

G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
  func = function() {
    Do stuff
    return true
  }
}))

There are other parameters and stuff, you can look into it here
https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Guide-‐-Event-Manager

[shut crater]

But this is the purest form of event

[brisk rose]

Are you a protogen or smth else?

[daring fern]

r needs to be uppercase.

Also you can remove the last line unless its gold seal.

[mellow prism]

thank you!

[daring heron]

awesome, thx

it does move when you hover over it though, can i stop it from doing that?

and also this

what is this

[daring fern]

You seem to have placed the shader wrong.

[daring heron]

idunno

where should i place it then?

[daring fern]

Replace that with lua G.shared_seals[self.seal].role.draw_major = self G.shared_seals[self.seal]:draw_shader('dissolve', nil, nil, nil, self.children.center) if self.seal == 'Gold' then G.shared_seals[self.seal]:draw_shader('voucher', nil, self.ARGS.send_to_shader, nil, self.children.center) end and replace self.seal with 'Gold'

[daring heron]

does it need the if then?

[daring fern]

You can remove the if

[daring heron]

alright

nice, it works

is there any way of making it stop moving when you hover over the deck?

[high sinew]

im trying to have a card similar to hangman where it destroys two cards and takes the difference of them for a new card added to deck. It isnt working not sure why

EX: 7 and 4 makes a 3

base_ranks is defined as ranks in game

[brisk rose]

I feel like I've seen exactly this

[brisk rose]

Ortalab

Not exactly the same

Bit very similar

This averages doesn't take the difference

Wait nvm

That's something else?

I tho this might just choose one if the ranks at random

[high sinew]

ill lokk

[crystal flicker]

the joker inserts one card into the deck... expected is 51/51, but it registers that i inserted 2 cards in the deck. how do i make the number accurately reflect how many cards are in the deck?

[frosty dock]

doesn't create_playing_card do emplacing and materializing for you?

[crystal flicker]

oh wait that fixed it ay thank you

[placid star]

is it possible to find the values in center_table.extra and modify them? i looked through the lovely dumps and couldnt find anything then eval'd in game and similarly no results

[brisk rose]

I mean there's a couple mods with legendaries that double all other jokers values

I think that's what you mean?

[placid star]

i want a joker that adds a 20% to shop items, im aware there is a discount var but that gets SET to a new value when buying a discount voucher

i just want to use add_to_deck and remove_from_deck to change those vars

[brisk rose]

I don't think that's how vouchers usually do things

[placid star]

G.GAME.disccount.blabla =

[brisk rose]

There's a very high chance I have no clue what I'm talking about

[frosty dock]

what's center_table here

[frosty dock]

yeah because vouchers

you just do card.ability.extra

[placid star]

so G.GAME.discount = G.discount... + card.ability.extra.discount ?

[last sentinel]

Is there a meaningful differnece between G.playing_cards and G.deck.cards

[manic rune]

when you draw a card then that card is no longer in G.deck.cards

G.playing_cards still includes it

[last sentinel]

ahhh

[placid star]

does buying_card factor in buying a booster?

[daring fern]

No, I don't think, but there is context.open_booster

[placid star]

nah i just wondered if i need to use both contexts or just buying_card

[placid star]

whats the thingy for juice_up card?

[daring fern]

card:juice_up()?

[placid star]

ty i could not find that on the wiki and i forgot the syntax

[placid star]

my game does NOT like this, it crashes on this for some reason]

[red flower]

send crashh logg

[placid star]

oh yeah my baddd

ignore my pissbot ahh code

[manic rune]

card = self

remove that

[placid star]

oh yeah that worked ty!

[red flower]

but also you don't really need to juice up the card yourself, the message already does

[eager pendant]

Why do regular cards work, but jokers don't?

[daring heron]

anyone know why this is working when i try running balatro with the lovely folder

it works when i delete the folder but it just adds it back the next time

[hushed field]

Ah, you're dutch?

[daring heron]

yup

[hushed field]

Are any of the dump files currently opened when you launch it?

[daring heron]

nope

[eager pendant]

Why do regular cards work, but jokers don't?

[daring fern]

This is what astral does:

[hushed field]

I don't know the details of it, but I suspect your permissions don't allow the dump to be overwritten, or deleted by the code itself, which is why you need to do it manually

[daring heron]

also this doesnt work

[red flower]

what part doesn't work

and how

[daring heron]

idunno, it just crashes when i start the game

[eager pendant]

dont working

[red flower]

then post the crash log

please give as much info as you can

[daring fern]

context.cardarea can't be G.jokers and G.play at the same time.

[hushed field]

the error here is pretty clear! You've not closed a bracket. Try to follow the color of each bracket and see if there's a counterpart

[daring heron]

that's the problem

there is

[eager pendant]

How do you make the cards work and the jokers work?

[daring heron]

as far as i can see theres a counterpart to each bracket

[pale venture]

Does anyone happen to know if it's possible to change the rotation axis of a soul sprite when creating a custom one with SMODS.DrawStep?

[red flower]

can you screenshot the whole SMODS.Back, i think you're missing something beforehand

[daring heron]

----- EDITION DECK -----

SMODS.Back{
    atlas = "decks",
    name = "Limited Edition Deck",
    key = "editiondeck",
    pos = {x = 0, y = 0},
    loc_txt = {
        name = "Limited edition Deck",
        text ={
            "Start run with",
            "{C:attention}13 {}random edition cards in deck"
        },
    },
    apply = function()
        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
            func = function()

                local cards = {}
                for i, card in ipairs(G.playing_cards) do
                    cards[#cards+1] = card
                end
                
                for i = 1, 26 do
                    local playing_card_object, index = pseudorandom_element(cards, pseudoseed("extradecks_editiondeck"))
                    local chosen = G.playing_cards[index]

                    local new_enhancement = SMODS.poll_edition({guaranteed = true, key = 'extradecks_editiondeck'})
                            chosen:set_edition (poll_edition("extradecks_editiondeck", nil, true, true), true, true)
                        end
                    table.remove(cards, index)
                end

                return true
            end
        }))
    end
}

----- MOD CODE END -----

[red flower]

oh it's that end in the middle

thank you squiggly red lines

[daring heron]

yeah i didnt get those for some reason

[daring fern]

You don't have the lua extension.

[daring heron]

oh yeah forgot

i'm on the school computer

didnt have that installed yet

[vocal cedar]

So

anyone possibly see why the xchips aint doing anything

i think my context is wrong

this is for an edition that adds 2x chips

wdym

editon?

Whole code for context

[daring fern]

Try changing it to x_chips

[vocal cedar]

wanted to start real simple tbh

[vocal cedar]

mmm okay one sec

[daring fern]

Also do card = card not card = self

self is the edition.

[vocal cedar]

oh thank ya

nope

x_chips ddidnt do anything

[daring fern]

Also do self.config.xchips

[vocal cedar]

editions there tho

[daring fern]

Replace card.ability.xchips with self.config.xchips

[vocal cedar]

good catch

still

new to this shit lmao 💀

let me chec

[eager pendant]

It works, but now it counts twice

[vocal cedar]

THAT WORKED THANKS

also just pinging the hivemind

the X1 in big red letters, whats the color code for that for bluew?

is there even one?

like for XCHIPS

[daring fern]

{X:chips,C:white}

[daring heron]

poll doesnt work anymore 😔

----- EDITION DECK -----

SMODS.Back{
    atlas = "decks",
    name = "Limited Edition Deck",
    key = "editiondeck",
    pos = {x = 0, y = 0},
    loc_txt = {
        name = "Limited edition Deck",
        text ={
            "Start run with",
            "{C:attention}13 {}random edition cards in deck"
        },
    },
    apply = function()
        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
            func = function()

                local cards = {}
                for i, card in ipairs(G.playing_cards) do
                    cards[#cards+1] = card
                end
                
                for i = 1, 26 do
                    local playing_card_object, index = pseudorandom_element(cards, pseudoseed("extradecks_editiondeck"))
                    local chosen = G.playing_cards[index]

                    local new_edition = SMODS.poll_editions({guaranteed = true, key = 'extradecks_editiondeck'})
                            chosen:set_edition (poll_editions("extradecks_editiondeck", nil, true, true), true, true)
                        end
                    table.remove(cards, index)

                return true
            end
        }))
    end
}

----- MOD CODE END -----

[red flower]

isnt it poll_edition

[daring fern]

It's poll_edition not poll_editions

[daring heron]

i tried that but it still doesnt work

[vocal cedar]

peak

[red flower]

ok but the error should be different

[eager pendant]

Thanks, it works.

[daring heron]

looks the same to me

[daring fern]

It's not SMODS.poll_edition its just poll_edition

[red flower]

oh i didnt see the part before the set_edition
why do you poll edition twice

[placid star]

does anyone know the info_queue for consumable types?

[dire palm]

So, I made this joker that stores a playing card.
It works fine in an uninterrupted run but if I have a card stored, go back to the main menu and then continue the run, the game crashes when I hover over the Joker.
Do you think this can be fixed?

[daring fern]

Store it in a card area so it gets saved.

[daring heron]

does anyone know how i can change the order of my decks? i don't want them all to just be at the end of the vanilla decks

[dire palm]

How do I do that, exactly?

[daring fern]

No.

[daring heron]

i have a striped deck that's pretty much checkered deck but with clubs and diamonds and i'd like to put it after checkered deck

[daring heron]

oh ok

do you know how i can make a deck that gives a random joker?

just 1 random joker from all the jokers

at the start

[daring fern]

Look at cryptids legendary deck.

[digital niche]

im trying to make the things be loaded into a "items" folder but they aint being loaded, how do i make them be loaded?

when i open the game they dont show up

[daring fern]

SMODS.load_file("path")()

[digital niche]

tyty!

[dire palm]

So, how do I make a cardarea for that?

[vocal cedar]

Man

Anyone know where burn_color is?

i think i somehow corrupted it when trying to make a shader

and now the base game wont even compile

[red flower]

I would look at how Balatro Goes Kino does the abduction mechanic

[digital niche]

does this work as a list i can call somewhere in the code later?

[brisk rose]

I don't think this is what you'd use for that

I think you'd just make a normal table of things that count as ore, especially if they're all enhancements

this would try to add them as an entirely different smods object

i think

[digital niche]

so just Ore = {'(keys)'}?

[digital niche]

oooh, tyty

[cursive sentinel]

is there a context/way of changing number of drawn cards?

i don't find where serpent's code is

[daring fern]

This is in G.FUNCS.draw_from_deck_to_hand

[red flower]

i did a lovely patch for that

just before the serpent part

[cursive sentinel]

this ?

local hand_space = e
    if not hand_space then
        local limit = G.hand.config.card_limit - #G.hand.cards
        local n = 0
        while n < #G.deck.cards do
            local card = G.deck.cards[#G.deck.cards-n]
            limit = limit - 1 + (not card.debuff and card.edition and card.edition.card_limit or 0)
            if limit < 0 then break end
            n = n + 1
        end
        hand_space = n
    end```

ok i may be stupid, will try smth and come back

[digital niche]

im really close to figuring it out! the only thing going wrong is the card is being added anytime

if i play a card it adds like 20 enhanced cards, if i win a blind it adds 7 i think, if i select blind i get like 4

im not sure why but its something atleast

its creating only the cards of the list and have it showing up then going to deck

[red flower]

you're probably not checking context properly

[digital niche]

ooooh yeah i forgot to check for context at alll LOL

I GOT IT!

its really easy tbh

just had to change like 3 lines in the marble joker code

want me to send how to do it?

[red flower]

that would be cool thank you

[digital niche]

you welcome! 1 sec

[chilly hull]

still attempting to copy a random joker (as in blueprint effect copy), this time it crashes at a certain line in my program, though idk why

[digital niche]

1- love trans rights thing

[daring fern]

It's blueprint_compat not blueprint.compat

[chilly hull]

godang

[chilly hull]

hell ye

when will this be actually documented well 😭

[unborn bay]

there is no such thing as good documentation

[digital niche]

i was gonna ask to show the part that says the number of the line but nvm someone already found the mistake lol

[red flower]

when someone has the time to document the vanilla game lol

SMODS.blueprint_effect should be there at some point

[chilly hull]

i feel like the line is wrong (dont mind the text i havent changed it yet)

[chilly hull]

even pvz1 was ducemnted better than this and that game is 16 years old (actually turned yesterday!)

[red flower]

pseudorandom_element doesn't take a string as far as i remember
you need to do pseudoseed("trans_rights")

[chilly hull]

whast the difference?

it should take one of the compatible jokers at random

[native zinc]

pseudoseed("trans_rights") -> 0.378462983290644 or something, pseudorandom_element needs that number

[red flower]

seeds have to be numbers so the game uses pseudoseed to convert those strings. pseudorandom does it automatically but that one does not

[chilly hull]

ok it copies now!!

though i still need to find a way to get it to actually

activate

[cursive sentinel]

I got this, but it also triggers when scoring hand does score (bit ugly since it makes cards get drawn despite round being technically finished, before they're sent back to the deck pile, but still functionnal), is the probleme within the contexts i use?

if context.cardarea == G.jokers
        and context.after
        and (next(context.poker_hands['Straight']) or next(context.poker_hands['Straight Flush'])) then
            card_eval_status_text(context.blueprint or card, 'extra', nil, nil, nil, {message = "ACAB!", colour = G.C.CHIPS})
            if G.GAME.blind.name == 'The Serpent' then
                for i=1, card.ability.extra.draw do
                    draw_card(G.deck,G.hand, i*100/(card.ability.extra.draw), 'up', true)
                end
            else
                local hand_space = e or math.min(#G.deck.cards, G.hand.config.card_limit - #G.hand.cards)
                for i=1, hand_space + card.ability.extra.draw do
                    draw_card(G.deck,G.hand, i*100/(hand_space+card.ability.extra.draw), 'up', true)
                end
            end
        end```

[bold sleet]

hello, again, how does one iterate through the whole deck?

[flat sorrel]

for _, v in ipairs(G.deck.cards) do

[bold sleet]

ty

[red flower]

what's the effect?

[daring fern]

No.

G.playing_cards

[flat sorrel]

is the difference whether it includes cards which are currently not in deck because they are drawn to hand?

[cursive sentinel]

drawing 3 more cards than hand size when played hand contains a straight

[red flower]

yes

[daring fern]

G.playing_cards is every card, G.deck.cards are cards currently sitting in the deck.

[flat sorrel]

just a matter of how you interpret what they were asking for then isn't it. does make more sense though than my intuitive intepretation of what they meant

[red flower]

you dont need to check both straight and straight flush because a SF contains a straight

but also I don't understand what the issue is, can you elaborate?

[daring fern]

the deck is debatable but the whole deck is not.

[cursive sentinel]

it didn't when i just used the 'Straight', thats why i added manuall

the issue is, if i play a straight on the hand that makes the scoring go over the chips required

i draw cards before the end

like, it draws, then put them back in pile

[red flower]

oh i thought you were saying those were separate issues

[cursive sentinel]

it executes before the original game draw

[red flower]

that's why i do a lovely patch

[cursive sentinel]

i mean, i can keep it as is, it's just ugly for cards to be drawn and put back in pile quickly at the end

and might interact poorly if i intend on doing a joker whose effect would be on drawn cards

[red flower]

this is the patch https://github.com/nh6574/JoyousSpring/blob/58749c3f350bbf101e0167e19bf072008c6119ea/lovely/effects.toml#L6

[cursive sentinel]

what does it mean?

[red flower]

what does what mean

[cursive sentinel]

i mean, what can/shall i do with it?

[red flower]

I did a similar effect, you can use it as a basis for your own patch

and it would solve your problem

[chilly hull]

would this work?
im just looking at blueprints' code

[cursive sentinel]

thanks !

[daring fern]

For what?

[chilly hull]

i think i now have copied a random joker successfully but i dont know how to make it activate

[daring fern]

You have to put a SMODS.blueprint_effect outside of all contexts.

[chilly hull]

but i just dk how to use it

i havent found another od that uses this effect too to base my code off of😭

[flat sorrel]

do you just want a blueprint clone?

[native zinc]

does smod blueprint calculate still break on retriggers

[chilly hull]

it copies a random joker

[red flower]

https://github.com/search?q=SMODS.blueprint_effect&type=code

[dapper sun]

how do i make a card with a custom enhancement do something when scored?

[flat sorrel]

You can reference https://github.com/SpectralPack/Cryptid/blob/main/items/misc_joker.lua, search for "oldblueprint"
idk if there are issues with the builtin method

[chilly hull]

wait i didnt know that was psosible? idk how ot use github really since ive never done it

[flat sorrel]

looking at the docs, isn't it just add a calculate method and use the context (context.main_scoring and context.cardarea == G.play)

[red flower]

god that code is so complicated

[daring heron]

how do i make a deck that gives 1 completely random joker at the start of a run?

(and also one that immediately sets all hand levels to 3)

[red flower]

SMODS.add_card{set="Joker"}

[daring heron]

does that do a random one?

[red flower]

yes

[daring fern]

-# That's still not what it does.

[daring heron]

i know but i decided thats what it will do in my mod

[chilly hull]

doesnt activate :c

[red flower]

because youre returning before it can reach that check at the end

[cursive sentinel]

i think i dont understand how the patch works

[red flower]

you need to modify hand_space if you have your joker

(you probably need a check for if the last hand was a straight)

[chilly hull]

then when should i

[red flower]

probably the copied return should go alongside the blueprint_effect

but i think you need to return blueprint_effect too

[cursive sentinel]

this?hand_space = (#G.hand.cards == 0) and 1 or 0

[glad osprey]

make sure Joker is a local

[red flower]

yes, what that does in my case is set the hand_space to 0 so you don't draw (or 1 if your hand is empty)

[chilly hull]

so i need to put the blueprint_effect in the Copied return?

[red flower]

also works

[chilly hull]

lets see

[cursive sentinel]

so in my case would be hand_space = card.ability.extra.draw?

thus taking off the fors?

[red flower]

yes but you don't have direct access to card in the patch so you would need to do SMODS.find_card

[chilly hull]

nah it doesnt do anythn

[cursive sentinel]

outside of the smodsjoker then

[red flower]

can i see how you do it

[chilly hull]

dis is difficult dang

[unborn bay]

programming

[red flower]

try doing extra = SMODS.blueprint_effect...

[unborn bay]

i loooove extra table

[chilly hull]

whats the extra for?

[red flower]

i literally have a system to do a big concatenation of extra tables

[unborn bay]

same

[red flower]

extra return table

[unborn bay]

a return table inside a return table if you will

[red flower]

so it does one effect first and then another

[chilly hull]

aw it still doesnt

[vocal cedar]

chat saturation is a bit high i think

[unborn bay]

man i wish i could make shaders

[glad osprey]

Just do it?

[vocal cedar]

there we are

what we think chat?

[unborn bay]

hell yeah

[unborn bay]

ok smart guy how bout you take a crack at it

[vocal cedar]

i grabbed holographic and polychrome from base game, turned holos squares into triangles, and chifted the color scheme of poly to blue purple green

and like

mashed

[red flower]

i hate shaders

[vocal cedar]

them thoehter

[glad osprey]

I have

[vocal cedar]

yeah

[glad osprey]

twice

[vocal cedar]

how could i take ownership of aura and wheel of fortune to add iridescent to the mix? like anyway to do that without just completely wiping wheel and aura and starting over?

and second question

how do i change the color of the nameplate lol

bettervanilla

that is

[unborn bay]

that's defined by your mod metadata

[quartz ravine]

This looks gorgeous! Have you been using the ‘watch shader’ command from debug plus? When I was working on shaders it saved me sooo much time!

[maiden phoenix]

Might have to edit the poll_edition function

[vocal cedar]

crashes the game immediatlely lmfao

if i uswe watch shader

[quartz ravine]

Hi guys, anyone know of a mod which does progressive unlocks? I am looking for an example of how it’s done

[glad osprey]

skill issue?

[glad osprey]

elaborate

[maiden phoenix]

Bunco I think?

Only mod I know that has unlocks

[quartz ravine]

I spent like a day or two running into this problem, in order to use a shader you must define the name of your shader at the top of the code with all of the other external variable declarations in the fragment, shader, and then on top of that because the shader runs in the GPU processing engine, you must use one or more variables of the shader itself or will be memory optimized away by the rendering process

[vocal cedar]

☹️

i know some of those words

[daring fern]

Patch poll_edition

[vocal cedar]

how lol

[quartz ravine]

Notice how for all of the built-in shaders in the game, they all have an extern variable declaration at the top, and then in the main method it uses the shaders x y or z properties somewhere

[glad osprey]

lovely patching

[vocal cedar]

oh right okay

well

heres the issue

[quartz ravine]

I had to solve the same problem, so what I did is I added new consumables that would apply my custom additions and I used it that way.

[daring fern]

Or maybe you set the source in in_pool to "wheel_of_fortune" somehow?

[quartz ravine]

Lovely patching can be really difficult to work with because some other mods will also take ownership or alter the base code so it can be extremely difficult to get your patch to actually apply

[vocal cedar]

i actually dont know if i want aura to have iridescent

2x chips is powerful... i was going to make a spectral card that turns all the cards in your hand into stone cards, and then makes one of the iridescent as a way to get em

[chilly hull]

mesed around some more

[vocal cedar]

like lovely patching is cool yes

perhaps i can combine poll editions and then just

have it have a chance to be iridescent

[daring fern]

card.ability.extra.joker doesn't exist?

[quartz ravine]

Maybe one approach you could use would be to disable the spawning of the base wheel of Fortune, and then only spawn your new variant of wheel of Fortune, which has a chance to apply your additions or base editions

[vocal cedar]

like i do a "
x = poll editions
y = iridescent

90% chance to apply x edition, 10% chance to apply y

[brisk rose]

Why can't you just take_ownership?

[chilly hull]

i m just looking at other jokers from other mods
i replaced it cuz if it just says 'joker' then it doesnt do anything

[daring fern]

That's because its local?

[chilly hull]

but its in the same

loop

[red flower]

patching poll_edition is just much easier

[quartz ravine]

This might work, I have never had to take ownership or try to alter a built-in card so this could work

[red flower]

like you just do
_options[#_options+1] = "yourkey"

probably after the if so it doesnt affect other modded objects

[chilly hull]

stild doesnt do anythng ;c

[daring fern]

Are you copying jokers that do things in context.setting_blind?

[chilly hull]

im making a joker copy the ability of a random joker when blind is selected

[vocal cedar]

@daring fern like i do a

pollresults = pollEditions()
iri = freese.editions.iridescent()

then choose pollresults 90% of the time for wheel

so 90% of the time it would give poly holo or foil

10% iridescent

[daring fern]

It's not going to do anything unless the joker it's copying does something in context.setting_blind with your current code.

[vocal cedar]

etc

[daring fern]

No, patching it would be better in every way.

[vocal cedar]

how do i do a lovely patch in my lua file?

[chilly hull]

yeah i figured, but what should i do then?

[vocal cedar]

like

just a bit unfamiliar with it thats all

i would obvs want standard packs to be able to rarely come with iridescent as well

like what would i do here do add iridescent to my standard packs etc?

[daring fern]

It should do that naturally if its in the pool.

[vocal cedar]

is e_iridescent created with SMODS.Edition?

oh word?

[red flower]

it's a separate .toml file
look at the lovely github for info
you can also copy the structure of the smods patches

[vocal cedar]

okay word

[vocal cedar]

but if i wanted to specifically add it to the list like uop here @daring fern

[placid star]

my custom card area only had 1 button, for jokers its sell and for consums its use, how can i add avialiabitly for a second button?

[daring fern]

What do you mean?

[red flower]

hook card:highlight and modify self.children.use_button

[vocal cedar]

so i reworked standard packs to have negative playing cards right

its shown here

that local items table has the weights of the editions

how can i add my custom edition to the table here

[vocal cedar]

here

[chilly hull]

IT WORKS

[vocal cedar]

like this crashes my game

doing e_iridescent

[red flower]

isn't it e_modprefix_iridescent

[unborn bay]

yeah

[chilly hull]

well if you copy one ability, then next round its incompattible with every joker then it keeps the first ability

oh i think i fixed it

[vocal cedar]

oh

lol

perhaps thats it

[placid star]

how would one do that 👉 👈

[digital niche]

why is it showing nil?

[daring fern]

What type of object is this?

[digital niche]

enhancement

[daring fern]

Use self.config not card.ability

[red flower]

https://github.com/nh6574/JoyousSpring/blob/58749c3f350bbf101e0167e19bf072008c6119ea/src/general_ui.lua#L307

[worthy stirrup]

is there a way to change the jokers art pos mid game?

[digital niche]

god ill have to change all the enhancements😭

[red flower]

card.children.center:set_sprite_pos iirc

[digital niche]

but it is working for evey other but this one

[daring fern]

card.children.center:set_sprite_pos({x = number, y = number})

[worthy stirrup]

oh goodness

[digital niche]

oh wait nvm it was just bugged, restarted and now it works lol

[brisk rose]

That's actually very straightforward

[worthy stirrup]

its a lot

but im also new to this still

is there also a way to get the pos?

[daring fern]

card.children.center.sprite_pos

[worthy stirrup]

oh

right

[brisk rose]

It sounds like the plan might be to f lip the sprites of 2 okers

[daring fern]

Also you would replace center with floating_sprite if you want to change the soul_pos

[worthy stirrup]

i dont need to change soul pos

[vocal cedar]

hey fellas i renamed my mod just now and now its like. not getting detected

i changed everything

complete refactor

json file and everything

any shots in the dark why balatro isnt even recognizing it now

[daring fern]

Did you change your prefix?

[vocal cedar]

mhm

i did

[brisk rose]

Screenshot your mod's folder

[quartz ravine]

did you figure this out? If not, I can show you

[daring fern]

Did you change everything in your code to match that?

[vocal cedar]

ive only used my prefix once, and my mod is TINY rn

this all we got

[daring fern]

Show your JSON?

[vocal cedar]

here ya go

like

all i did was change prefix and name...?

[daring fern]

SMODS version?

[vocal cedar]

didnt touch it

[worthy stirrup]

got it working

[vocal cedar]

woa

[daring fern]

Yes, but what version?

[vocal cedar]

i mean

this

but like i said

i didnt touch it

mod worked

i closed balatro

renamed everything

open balatro

nothing

[quartz ravine]

This cat will not stop trying to lay down right on my keyboard

[daring fern]

That's literally what a joker I made did about 7 hours ago.

[worthy stirrup]

ok

[quartz ravine]

Oh my god what does Hollow knight do?!

Also @azure stone so they know about it too

[manic rune]

can someone describe what the vid is about, for some reason i cant watch on phone 😭

[worthy stirrup]

nothing yet

this is just the art so far

[manic rune]

but whatever it is, good job :3

[red flower]

it cycles through the joker art

[quartz ravine]

he has a joker card that seems to change once a second

[manic rune]

ahhhh icic

[quartz ravine]

wow, good recommendation on Bunco! These joker concepts are great and the unlock is exactly what I want to do

[worthy stirrup]

i can share the shitty code if yall want it

[brisk rose]

Maybe the return the that puts the close bracket on a new line?

[brisk rose]

Nvm that'd be stupid prolly

I just dk how Jason formatting handles whitespace

[vocal cedar]

this is fucking stupid the game is just like "we SEE the json file we just dont care"

what

[manic rune]

its frover

[red flower]

did you change the mod id

[vocal cedar]

its beyond frover

nope

still vsmods

[red flower]

have you tried changing it

[vocal cedar]

ill try it

[manic rune]

how do people have descriptions in the .json file that's more than 1 line again

🤔

[red flower]

idk i use loc files for that

[vocal cedar]

im killing balatro with my mind

that

that was it

[manic rune]

oh, you can use loc files for this?
-# im gonna check joyousspring once again

[red flower]

yeah it probably saves the id in your save file

[hasty mist]

i did!

[unborn bay]

wait loc files exist for mod descriptions??????

what the fuck

[manic rune]

:3

[red flower]

you need this if you want it to look good

or it will have the joker description background

[quartz ravine]

How may I 'undiscover' a joker? I am trying to test my unlock condition and the joker just is staying unlocked 😄

I set it to unlocked = false, discovered = false but it still persists

[manic rune]

why did it genuinely never cross my mind that you should be able to use loc file for mod description

😭

[daring fern]

Edit the meta.jkr file.

[manic rune]

thanks N', im always in ur debt now 🥀

[quartz ravine]

Ohhh thanks! Where is that file?

[daring fern]

%APPDATA%/Balatro/profilenumber

[vocal cedar]

uh

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

before you ask yes its a .ogg lol

not mp4

[daring fern]

Did you use your mod prefix when calling it?

[vocal cedar]

?

nah

just setting it up as a sound

[red flower]

oh wow my message was sent very late

[vocal cedar]

i was wondering

guys im

im actually tweaking

i am STARING AT the file path rn

[unborn bay]

how are you playing the sound

[vocal cedar]

its

[daring fern]

You need mod prefix.

[unborn bay]

have you appended your mod prefix to the sound ye- yeah theres your problem

[vocal cedar]

kinda like this

[unborn bay]

NEVER forget your mod prefix

[vocal cedar]

where should i be putting it lol

[digital niche]

what is the context for holding in hand?

[vocal cedar]

frover_iridescent?

or like

[red flower]

depends on what holding in hand action you want

[daring fern]

Yes.

[vocal cedar]

ah

okay okay

[digital niche]

giving money

[quartz ravine]

I do not specify the path to the sounds I load. I think it just assumes they are in assets/sounds

[red flower]

when playing or at end of round or both?

[digital niche]

when playing!

[red flower]

context.individual and context.cardarea == G.hand

[digital niche]

tyty!

[red flower]

oh and not context.end_of_round i think

[quartz ravine]

So try putting them in that path. Also when playing it, you'll find the play command needs to include your mod prefix

SMODS.Sound({key = "kirby_poyo", path = "kirby-poyo-time-d.mp3",atlas_table = "ASSET_ATLAS"})
Then I play the sound with play_sound("Fox_kirby_poyo", 1.05)

[unborn bay]

wh

[vocal cedar]

what is asset atlas

[unborn bay]

why is there an atlas table specified

[hard needle]

greui6y1324534fghkuyerterhtrwerj768ghe34jy45ghyuiret6gr5e4ewhjrfgergferfghrtyrt

[daring fern]

Why does your sound have an atlas?

[unborn bay]

how you do atlas a sound

[hard needle]

oops

[quartz ravine]

How does one edit a .jkr file? To me they appear to be gibberish

[daring fern]

https://balatro.shorty.systems/

[hard needle]

shouldn't it be ./iridescent.ogg

[vocal cedar]

oh please tell me its not that

hold on

[daring fern]

No?

[hard needle]

no i'm not sure though

[hard needle]

atlas??

wha

[quartz ravine]

IDK guys, maybe that is not needed but it does work

[vocal cedar]

okay

so

[daring fern]

It is guaranteed not needed.

[vocal cedar]

its because i didnt put a mod prefix

which is CRAZY work to me

but

now its going

[daring fern]

It's not even on the wiki page.

[vocal cedar]

yeah okay

[quartz ravine]

the mod prefix thing drove me crazy!

[vocal cedar]

perhaps ill just eat my graphics driver with a fork

[vocal cedar]

do not question react this man for he speaks the truth

is this how we want to play the sound chat

this man is RED QUESTION MARK REACTING ME

[daring fern]

Remove the prefix when defining it.

[quartz ravine]

you have to use the prefix to make sure that if other mods have a similarly named file, that it can play the right one. But it felt unintuitive to me for sure

[vocal cedar]

defining it on the SMODS.sound?

[daring fern]

Yes.

[vocal cedar]

...ah okay

man

[hard flume]

How would one go about making a pop-up menu? Uwu I got the button code almost working, I just need to actually. Yknow. Give it functionality.

[quartz ravine]

Thanks guys, I love this

Now I have working unlocks

[vocal cedar]

okay so

does this look correct

because it is STILL erroring out

[daring fern]

You should not have your prefix when defining anything.

[hard flume]

I think I know how to do it but. I want to make sure before I do it, so I don't spend hours trying to fix it

[daring fern]

You mean like pointer?

[vocal cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-gif-14663292704966997212

ok

hold on

[manic rune]

play a card hand?

🤔

[hard flume]

Yes but like! A full menu that only appears when you click a button

[manic rune]

definitely try checking how Run Info/Options and such create their menu, thats how i made my skill tree ui

[gilded blaze]

I'm trying to patch Buffoon packs so that the first card is forced to be a specific card during an event, but none of the print()s are working 💀

[hard flume]

Ty!! I'll do that then

[cursive sentinel]

ive been looking back and forth at it and i rly dont understand it; i dont understand if I must have a separate toml file in order to do what i do? or if i can do it directly in my smods joker? im really confused, been trying different (ugly) solutions but nothing seemed to work

sorry for the disturbance again 😔

[red flower]

you need a different toml file for a lovely patch

[cursive sentinel]

does it mean i have no other solution than the lovely patch? and is there a doc for it? i don't understand how it's structured

and what it can use or not from the smods joker' file

[red flower]

the problem with doing it in your joker is that theres no context for "after hand played but if you didnt win" afaik. you can make one but thats another solution

[cursive sentinel]

i tried using mister bones' chip checking but it applies after... so no change

[red flower]

you can maybe use hand_drawn

[cursive sentinel]

is it a context?

[red flower]

yes

[cursive sentinel]

ok trying it

[digital niche]

its not working 😕

[red flower]

need more info than that

[digital niche]

it isnt giving the dollars when held

its supposed to give the mult or dollars or chips when held while the scoring things are being scored

[gilded blaze]

😭

[red flower]

i can gather that

[digital niche]

but it isnt giving anything at all

[red flower]

i mean i need the code and the exact effect

[digital niche]

ooh okok

[red flower]

i dont even know if this is a joker or what

[digital niche]

enhancement!

[gilded blaze]

oh

[red flower]

hmm never did an enhancement, it might use main_scoring instead

[gilded blaze]

so, buffoon packs are taken ownership by SMODS

damn

[digital niche]

main_scoring is for playing the card

[manic rune]

wait

why is

and not context.end_of_round == G.hand?

[red flower]

why are you doing end_of_round == area?

yeah

[digital niche]

i thought i had to add that?

[manic rune]

no, its for context.cardarea

[red flower]

read my original comment again

[manic rune]

context.cardarea == G.hand

[digital niche]

here

[red flower]

yes

do you see == G.hand there

[cursive sentinel]

crashes on card selecting apparently (took off the context.after)

[manic rune]

they meant context.individual and context.cardarea == G.hand and not context.end_of_round

[digital niche]

oh thought it was the last one

[quartz ravine]

It should be "When your hand card is a Grass having card hand"

[manic rune]

😭

please

[digital niche]

before the == G.hand i mean

tyty

[red flower]

hand_drawn doesnt have poker_hands, you need to check on another context and set a flag

[cursive sentinel]

set a flag?

[vocal cedar]

@quartz ravine

[red flower]

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/use-of-flag-in-programming/

[cursive sentinel]

ahh so i set a bool true in context after, and on context draw i do my draw stuff

[red flower]

yes

[cursive sentinel]

ok thanks !

[quartz ravine]

I love your reaction, and that looks and sounds great!!!

[vocal cedar]

i KNOW

GOD i think i cooked with the shader

its so glassy

[quartz ravine]

and shiney. I would love a trading card that looks that good

[manic rune]

wait

[vocal cedar]

damm

[manic rune]

you made it???

that looks REALLY nice

[vocal cedar]

i gotta see them glass

thank you lol

[digital niche]

not working still

[wise walrus]

new to this, but is there a variable similar to v:set_seal but for cards? I'm making a challenge where all cards get replaced with Ace of Clubs but not sure what i can use to do that

[daring fern]

Try returning just x_chips

[digital niche]

still nothing

[tepid crow]

check out SMODS.change_base https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Utility

[willow plinth]

lazy bump in case anyone has a quick tip for me here

[red flower]

return repetitions = 1 and then extra = { repetitions = 1, message = "mess" }

[willow plinth]

awesome, thanks

[vocal cedar]

alr we got a small problem

as pretty as they are

shaders hitting the soul as well

[daring fern]

Don't apply to float.

[red flower]

i think this only works on dev smods not the release btw

[vocal cedar]

apply to number?

wdym dont apply to float

[vocal cedar]

AH

i see

[manic rune]

how do people do shaders

i get a headache whenever i look at the code

😭

[red flower]

no idea

[manic rune]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-cat-meme-gif-13427750725771336674

[daring heron]

btw does anyone know how i can change the color of this label

[red flower]

in the json

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Mod-Metadata

[vocal cedar]

i LITERALLY just mashed the holographic and polychrome shaders together, then changed the holographic code from triangles to diamonds, and redid the hue on poly

just copy the code lol

basically tho

[manic rune]

dang

still turned out really nice

i could never 🥀

[willow plinth]

oh okay, but that's fine for now, i'm always using the main branch

i remember reading about extra yesterday, do you also know if the extra table can contain another extra and so on?

the wiki just shows this (advanced)

[vocal cedar]

this is the ONLY thing that does anything

also fellas

this is my iridescent code

its MASSIVE

[red flower]

yes

[vocal cedar]

like this shader took me HOURS

[red flower]

(i have a system that is just a massive chain of extra tables)

[manic rune]

do you know what else is massive

[vocal cedar]

LOW

so basically

i did a holographic shader

[willow plinth]

in js or jd?

[vocal cedar]

then a iridescent shader

and mashed em together

and juiced saturation

[red flower]

joyous, cards can transfer effects to other cards

[vocal cedar]

we started here bro

[manic rune]

bro will actually eat me alive with that shader

;sob

[brisk rose]

Hope you backed up that version, it has its uses

[cursive sentinel]

works perfectly now, thanks !

[vocal cedar]

cavendish looks fucking mental

[hushed field]

That looks sick, freese

[cursive sentinel]

the white behind looks suspicious on it

but that may be just me

[vocal cedar]

hey ice!

[manic rune]

how op is "Hex" but without the destroy part 🤔

[daring fern]

Better wheel of fortune in every way.

[unborn bay]

literally just wheel 2

[manic rune]

true

[hushed field]

Except spectral pool instead of tarot pool is important

[manic rune]

maybe making it so Hex only destroys one random joker is more reasonable as a buff?

[daring fern]

You mean a max of one?

[hushed field]

I will say, I personally don't think the vanilla editions on jokers are that strong. I prefer a polychrome playing card to a polychrome joker for sure, and same kinda goes for all editions but negative

[manic rune]

same

and retriggers dont account for joker editions, i think

[daring fern]

They do unless it's coming from the joker it is on (like a red seal)

[manic rune]

huh

[red flower]

who would put a red seal on a joker thats ridiculous

[manic rune]

yeah, like

how can you put seals on jokers...

only a madman would add that feature

[red flower]

and where does it end? first you put them on jokers and then what? everything else?

[manic rune]

yeah, like... seals on everything...

im considering just removing the downside completely, and make the skill cost like 80 skill points or something

[willow plinth]

a downside can be an upside with enough jokers that do something on destroy

[hushed field]

If you don't want it to be a wheel-but-better, how about destroy one random joker a d add Polychrome to the rest

[vocal cedar]

what if it stripped the editions off of all jokers then applies polychrome

no jokers lost

but

you might lose your foil holo or neg

[manic rune]

-# why would you mourn over losing foil and holo, lets be honest

[vocal cedar]

@daring fern im about to start shrimp reacting you

[unborn bay]

i would 🥀

my xchips become more worthless without foil

[hushed field]

Does anyone ever use Hex outside of the ghost deck free one? The randomness is too big a risk for me to ever use it

[vocal cedar]

hey fellas how do you get the default ace on the loading screen to have an edition or put stuff on it btw

is there like

[willow plinth]

i never used it

[vocal cedar]

an easy way

[rapid stag]

eternal jokers

[vocal cedar]

the balatro ace?

[hushed field]

Fair

[manic rune]

hmm, so i have 2 options here:

1. destroys one random joker, turns all jokers polychrome (ice suggested)
2. strips editions from all jokers that dont have polychrome, then turn a random joker into polychrome 🤔

[vocal cedar]

early spectral pack ill usually sell weaker jokers

[brisk rose]

That caven'd the dish until it

[willow plinth]

look at talisman for example, they add a coin to it

[vocal cedar]

but its gotta be an ante one or two

[manic rune]

the second option would make you want to opt for a full polychrome joker build, which is not as good as it may sound

[daring fern]

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "game.lua"
pattern = "replace_card.states.visible = false"
position = "before"
payload = "replace_card:set_edition('editionkey', true, true)"
match_indent = true
overwrite = false

[rapid stag]

...what if editions scaled?
very slowly, but

[vocal cedar]

oh nice

[manic rune]

i added a skill that adds scaling to playing cards

[willow plinth]

i hope @daring fern is doing this with a bot, otherwise

[manic rune]

they arent

[daring heron]

how would i set the level of each poker hand to 3 at the start of a run with my custom deck?

[daring fern]

No?

[manic rune]

do yall think this is reasonable

since stone cards are genuinely so ahh 🥀

[daring heron]

like, i want the poker hands to start at lvl 3 when you start a run with this deck

[manic rune]

this is the most expensive skill in the tarot section, and i think the reason is pretty clearly seen here

[karmic arch]

you can copy effect of black hole and increase it by 3

[red flower]

its that a trails in the sky reference????

[karmic arch]

sound bad like maximum 5 joker that 90% common, worse than riff-raff

[subtle hawk]

How do I change rank of a card with a sticker

[manic rune]

perhaps, whoever thought of that name must be insanely cool 🤔

[red flower]

bepis you should play trails its one of the inspirations for honkai sr

[manic rune]

you wont believe how many people gamble with the judgement

[manic rune]

oh, actually?

[hard flume]

Hi chat :3

[manic rune]

i should probably search it later then

[karmic arch]

hi carrot

[manic rune]

hi 🥕

[red flower]

yeah they said it in an interview when it came out, the combat system is very similar

[daring heron]

but, is there not just a way to set the level manually to 3 for each poker hand?

[red flower]

other than it being very different

[manic rune]

🤔 i can actually see a bit of inspiration from here, just a bit

[hard flume]

I'm trying to get Pikmin working. Why did I decide to do this for my first foray back into modding...

[red flower]

im so excited for the remake

[manic rune]

dude thinks hes dr ratio 🥀🪫
-# thats not a girl right

[red flower]

i love olivier

[manic rune]

lly

[red flower]

i will put him as my pfp

[manic rune]

actually

is that a gun or a book

[red flower]

gun

[manic rune]

.

im embarrassed, im gonna leave the server now

:3

[hard flume]

No dont

[red flower]

it kinda looks like a book

[rapid stag]

i thought it was a book too

[karmic arch]

if you already have several jokers, then judgment gets worse, unless of course jokers are useless, I would see it create at least uncommon or with editions to at least pay off.

[hard flume]

I thought it was a book three

[rapid stag]

actually, i had a thought.
what is the structure of an edition when it's instanced?

like, say i have a polychrome joker. can i access the edition and increase its xmult. is that possible

[hard flume]

Tbf though, a lot of common modded Jokers are broken

[manic rune]

i thought about it being able to create more uncommons at one point too, but some common jokers are pretty strong, so its not exactly a good design choice

[hard flume]

That too

[manic rune]

and having a bad edition on created jokers might even be a downside, since you cant turn them into negative with ecto

[vocal cedar]

someone quickly run me through lovelypatching poll_editions again?

or does someone have an example of them using it?

[daring fern]

It's poll_edition

[vocal cedar]

:#

[vocal cedar]

yeah but like what after lol

[daring heron]

is this deck even used?

[daring fern]

No.

[vocal cedar]

old plasma deck

[manic rune]

a lot of mods use it

but other than that, no

[subtle hawk]

Balls

[daring fern]

No.

[rapid stag]

wouldn't even need to change the localisation as it already sources the internal variable by default

[karmic arch]

foil deck? (i wrong maybe)

[daring fern]

No?

[azure stone]

Sup

[red flower]

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = '=[SMODS _ "src/overrides.lua"]'
pattern = '''if _key == "wheel_of_fortune" or _key == "aura" then -- set base game edition polling'''
position = 'after'
match_indent = true
payload = '''
_options[#_options+1] = "e_modprefix_edition"
'''

[daring heron]

this is foil deck apparently

anyway is there a way to set the hand lvl to smth?

[daring fern]

That is red deck?

[hard flume]

Where is like. The code for the deck menu in a run stored

[daring heron]

no thats the unused foil deck

[daring fern]

Which is red deck with foil shader?

[daring heron]

fair enough

[daring fern]

I'm aware.

[karmic arch]

old Braided Deck lock nice

[daring heron]

just a question do you always talk with punctuation like that?

(when my friends do that theyre annoyed or smth)

[karmic arch]

no? maybe

[daring heron]

so just wondering if i did smth

(for somethingcom btw)

[daring fern]

Yes.

[daring heron]

okay phew

[manic rune]

some people do talk like that, i think its cool but im too lazy to even bother chatting like that

[azure stone]

Also @quartz ravine turns out you did everything right. I just didnt know that I had to save 😭😭😭

[karmic arch]

I'm too lazy to go to a translator or think about how to do it correctly since my native language is not English

[rapid stag]

.-=,~'!"()£%&^%\$`¬|;:[]{}#/*?

[vocal cedar]

awesome thank you

[daring heron]

but does anyone know how i can set the hand level to smth?

[manic rune]

Sharpness 4
Unbreaking 3

[red flower]

just keep in mind that wont work on mac

yet

[vocal cedar]

i would also need to change the localization for wheel and aura i guess huh

[manic rune]

actually

[vocal cedar]

eh

[manic rune]

someone should add enchants to jokers

[vocal cedar]

giving my burnt joker fire aspect

[daring heron]

anyone?

[red flower]

level_up_hand

[daring heron]

which hand does that level up?

[red flower]

it's a function, the one you give it

[vocal cedar]

this would inject it as equal weight thou.... oh we define weight in the editions RIGHT

SICK

OKAY NICE

how does one change the localization of a vanilla object without taking ownership though btw?

[karmic arch]

for k, v in pairs(G.GAME.hands) do
level_up_hand(self, k, true, 3)
end?

[red flower]

i think you can just add those to your localization file

and it will replace them

[vocal cedar]

huh

really

that simple?

[hard flume]

Where would they be stored again?

Sorry, I'm looking and can't find them

[red flower]

like the options menu in a run?

[hard flume]

Yes, but like. Okay, Just give me a sec to explain exactly what i want to do. It might not be possible

[manic rune]

i think by the point my pc loads the function N' already answered your question 😭

[red flower]

i make a lot of overlay menus for my mod

[hard flume]

I wanna create a card area that stores cards of a specific suit, but can only be accessed after pressing a specific button on a card

[manic rune]

oh

you should definitely check joyousspring then

[hard flume]

Oki! I'll look into that then

[unborn bay]

G.FUNCS.overlay_menu takes in a uibox

[daring heron]

i don't think i understand, do i need to edit this?

[unborn bay]

can be anything

[hard flume]

Oki! Thank you

[red flower]

You would need a to copy all the cards to another cardarea and then show them in overlay_menu, I do this with the graveyard and the banish zone in my mod

https://github.com/nh6574/JoyousSpring/blob/58749c3f350bbf101e0167e19bf072008c6119ea/src/graveyard.lua#L350

[daring heron]

tried this but it doesnt work

[red flower]

(this is because exiting destroys the cardarea)

[hard flume]

Ty so much!! I appreciate it

[red flower]

@daring heron

[daring heron]

oh okay

do i just put that instead of level_up_hands(pair,3)?

[red flower]

yes

[vocal cedar]

wheres all the weights of the base game editions stored

or does anyone know them off the top of their head?

im trying to make iridescent rarer than neg just

[daring heron]

so this

[vocal cedar]

not knowing where they are

[red flower]

G.P_CENTERS[key].weight

[vocal cedar]

what lua file?

[manic rune]

i think it should be as rare as polychrome, negative is definitely better than irid imo 🤔

[red flower]

game.lua

[vocal cedar]

thankya

[manic rune]

or maybe a bit rarer than polychrome, since chips are abundant

so xchips is overall more powerful than xmult

[vocal cedar]

irid is 2x chips

[red flower]

or maybe not

[manic rune]

yeah, but negative is +1 joker slot

[vocal cedar]

xchips is unfortunantly just as strong as xmult lol

eh i might make it just as rare as neg

its the strongest scoring edition

[red flower]

xchips might be stronger as an edition

[vocal cedar]

yep

irid is an edition

[vocal cedar]

yeah not seeing the weights in there actually...

weird

[red flower]

yeah multiplying chips in played hand is like the only xchip difference that makes it better

[manic rune]

i dont really think x2 chips is stronger than +1 joker slot personally, since it allows you to get more jokers for your build

[red flower]

yeah they might get added by smods somewhere else

[red flower]

i agree with this

[vocal cedar]

true true

i meant for card enhancments tho

like a glass iridescent red seal

good god

[manic rune]

oh

oh yeah ic, as a playing card edition i think its fine then

[vocal cedar]

ill let irid hit jokers by wheel, prob just as frequently as poly
aura will be a rare rare hit, i want aura hitting irid go "oh shit fr"

but neg jokers are much stronger than irid jokers yeah

im adding a specral card as well

Graveyard: Turns your entire hand into stone cards then applies Iridescent to a random Joker, or Playing card
80% chance it hits a joker 20% chance it hits a playing card

[manic rune]

neg playing cards can be too, but there are not many mods that expand on neg playing cards anyways lol

[vocal cedar]

mine exclusively does lol

i started with that

[manic rune]

oh

[vocal cedar]

only prob with neg cards is

neg steels or golds are vicious lol

[manic rune]

the problem with neg cards is that it absolutely has no downsides

like

[red flower]

i have a single card that adds negative playing cards

but theyre kinda boring

[manic rune]

the downside of having more cards in your deck is that you might not draw your best card

and negative playing cards dont have that downside at all, since drawing that allows you to draw another one immediately

[vocal cedar]

so i nerfed negative cards in a way

Mime cannot retrigger negative gold cards or steel cards

Baron cannot target Negative Kings.

Negative steels and golds will still trigger one time right but they cant be retriggered in hand

so this encourages you to use negs to draw more powerfull hands

instead of hoarding them as steel kings for baron lol

[vocal cedar]

i think this is the best way to balance them

just because otherwise negative steel red seal kings hits naninf faster than my uncle finding a new wife after a divorce

(fast)

[manic rune]

it actually doesnt do as much as you think, since the fact that neg steel cards still work even when its just once still makes them insanely powerful

you only managed to nerf them, but neg playing cards still have no downsides despite that since, like i said before - the only problem with taking more cards into your deck is that you reduce the odds of drawing your best possible hand, neg cards dont have that downside at all

[vocal cedar]

the downside is your missing out on poly or irid cards

sure you would always draw your deck

but negative glass isnt gonna be as strong as polyglass or irid glass eventually

[manic rune]

i think i would never use negative cards to score, honestly

[vocal cedar]

the only downside to negative cards is they cant have scoring enhancements tho

yeah

[manic rune]

they are just there for the hand effects

[vocal cedar]

thats what im scared about

i want them to be good for hand effects but i want people to also use them for scoring

which is why im nerfing mime and baron on them only

but i dont think thats truly enough