💻・modding-dev

[modern kindle]

Look at the wiki, there's also an example mods repo there you can learn off of

[zealous glen]

yes but not like this

there's also a "my first mod" tutorial

in the wiki

IIRC

[signal oak]

yes ive looked at that

and its missing things i dont know

[rain slate]

nope

[modern kindle]

There's also the bepis tutorial can you link that vic if you're on pc I'm on

[zealous glen]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1349064230825103441

[hushed field]

clean install doesn't do it for me either, Wheat

[strong jacinth]

How would i create a this similar to ortolabs index cards

[zealous glen]

as I said, not like that

that's not a method of adding badges in vanilla

[rain slate]

there's just... a badge by default

[signal oak]

the video that linked i was using before

[rain slate]

because it's a sticker

how do I change the text of the badge

[scarlet spire]

I mean, it works completely as intended, covers all cases of removing and adding consumables, and the issue I'm having is unrelated to how i've done it
I wouldn't call it the Best solution, but it works very well and doesn't pose a problem

[signal oak]

and stopped as soon as i got up to the coding bit, because it didnt even tell me where this bit hes coding in is that already has a template and all

[zealous glen]

the same way as everything else, you define it in the localization file

in the same place vanilla badge names are defined

[rain slate]

so what's the key for that, then? It's not label or badge, so what

[zealous glen]

there are two of them

[hushed field]

in the localization file, you set it as a label, yeah, but I'm not sure how that translated from doing localization in file

[zealous glen]

You need a localization file AFAIK

[rain slate]

I think I found it

in misc

[zealous glen]

you can search the vanilla localization file to see the two places they need to be

[hushed field]

@scarlet spire no, I'm wrong, it does do it in a clean install. I hadn't checked it out with turtlebean. That behaviour's either smods or vanilla, but it's not you.

[zealous glen]

It is inefficient and works outside of normal game logic though

[rain slate]

indeed it is

[zealous glen]

It should fit the calculate pipeline

[scarlet spire]

so even though it does exactly what it is supposed to with no issue, and poses no performance issues, it's still wrong because it doesn't fit the conventional method

[zealous glen]

It can pose performance issues with multiple copies of this effect or multiple consumeables

[signal oak]

watching a tutorial and it goes from "youve made a sprite" to "ok now code in this" where is this??? where is this file located and why does it have a template already there??? please can sm1 help without just linking to eighty sources that do not help

[zealous glen]

and it doesn't necessarily work with other mods because it doesn't fit the conventions

[zealous glen]

you just create a text file and start writing

the text file goes into the mod's folder

also that tutorial looks like it's going to be outdated

[signal oak]

when hes typing it pops up with stuff like this and mine doesnt?? like huh

[zealous glen]

text software for coding

with the appropriate configuration

[strong jacinth]

-# Bump

[zealous glen]

what does that mean

[hushed field]

if you're completely new to coding, I really advice checking out some short tutorials about them just so you're more clear on what comes from the IDE, and what's part of the game modding tutorial

[radiant plank]

could someone direct me to good info/documentation/examples for CardArea?

[strong jacinth]

It isnt documented, but i would highly reccomend checking out the game code and N'('?)s Joyous spring mod

[zealous glen]

Sorry I don't think that exists. I'd say to read vanilla code and if you want to do something specific some specific mod might do something similar

[radiant plank]

thanks people

[scarlet spire]

actually testing the performance of this, it has zero impact even if I have 50 of this joker going at once. it's just comparing and setting a value, you're overestimating how performance heavy this is
more consumables also shouldn't lag it because it's not individually processing them, just keeping track of how many there are

[hushed field]

the base game tracks certain stats in the exact same way. I think it'll only start being an issue if your players love cryptid, performance-wise

[zealous glen]

I know it does, but it's stupid that the base game does that

it doesn't need to

[scarlet spire]

the only performance drop I got was from the actual card renderer, because it also happens with 50 of any other joker

[zealous glen]

And again the Joker effect has no reason to not fit into the standard calculation pipeline

[red flower]

it has a reason

its easier

[scarlet spire]

primarily, it functions exactly as I want it to and accounts for all edge cases without having to patch anything

[scarlet spire]

forgot to reply to this, that's odd

should probably be reported, then?

[placid star]

anyone know how to prevent '+nil mult' on jokers when bought and when viewed in collection as such

[red flower]

set a default value when it's nil

(your_value or 0) for example

[hushed field]

yeah, definitely. I'm really curious what causes it, because I checked my own consumables that draw cards and add hand size, and that isn't affected by it, interestingly

[placid star]

where would that be done in?

[red flower]

loc_vars

[placid star]

ahh okay ty

[placid star]

okay so i cant do 'card.ability.extra.mult = 0' in loc_vars, im somewhat stumped

[red flower]

you need to do return { vars = { card.ability.extra.mult_gain, card.ability.extra.mult or 0 } }

or whatever your values are called

[runic pecan]

How do I control an UI element's position on screen?
Like, what's the key in node config? x =?

[red flower]

config = { offset = { x = 0, y = 0 } }

[placid star]

i might be rly dumb but i cant put a return in local vars ;-;

[red flower]

how does your code look

[long urchin]

does anyone know how i could fix this?

[placid star]

omg

[red flower]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Localization#loc_vars

[placid star]

im such an idiot i forgor

[radiant plank]

kind of a simple question but im struggling to find the answer myself - how do i enhance a card? the card is being created with the Card function

[red flower]

looking at the screenshot i realize people might be very confused if they use my mod as a base for creating jokers lol

[runic pecan]

How do I utilise this so that jokers' description boxes don't go out of screen when mouse-hovered in collection?
Cuz I was expecting something that I could squeeze a math.min() into it.

[red flower]

card:set_ability('m_steel')

[radiant plank]

thanks!

[red flower]

no idea, i hook the align_h_popup function to do something like that

it changes the offset too so i guess like this

[placid star]

it still not working :c

[zealous glen]

not how you do it

you return the variable not assign it

[red flower]

me when i write how the code should be and people ignore me u.u

[modern kindle]

hey cna you tell me how exactly you made your joker graveyard so i can ignore it

[tall wharf]

why is this here 😭

[modern kindle]

cause you put it there, aiko

[red flower]

it's just a dictionary with the keys of the jokers that get destroyed

[tall wharf]

do i have to initialize the cardarea as the table is being returned

[red flower]

did u put it inside the node properly

[red flower]

yes

[tall wharf]

theere we go

[modern kindle]

♥

[red flower]

https://tenor.com/view/fuuka-persona-3-persona-fuuka-yamagishi-p3-gif-11813883870052617926

[runic pecan]

Would this work? I just need it to not crashing into the ceiling.

I have a feeling that offset.y is not the top position.

[red flower]

i dont think so, its an offset so it doesnt correlate to screen position
you need to check self.T.y

[runic pecan]

So is the y coordinate of the top edge self.T.y + ret.offset.y?

Or is it the y coords at the center of the desc box?

[placid star]

what is the context for when another/any joker is triggered?

[red flower]

i think it's the top edges
self.T.y is the card tho, not the box

[red flower]

post_trigger

[long urchin]

how do you remove editions from a card?

[tall wharf]

😭

[sleek siren]

I'm attempting to make a text box on the middle right of my screen, but (even though the code says "cm", it glitches out otherwise) it seems to only go to top left

[placid star]

hm this code isnt working, is im stupid?

[long urchin]

Does anyone know how to remove editions from jokers and playing cards?

[red flower]

idk what type is, you probably want align and offset

and major = G.ROOM maybe

[red flower]

it's an optional feature it seems

[lyric jasper]

how can i make a joker that gains Emult?

it doesnt seem to work the normal way

[tall wharf]

expectation vs reality

[red flower]

wdym

[lyric jasper]

lemme send the code n tell me what am i doing wrong

[edgy reef]

Emult is exponential mult right?

[red flower]

my follow up was going to be if talisman was installed

[lyric jasper]

        if context.before and context.scoring_name == "Hand of the Tin-Oak" and not context.blueprint then
            card.ability.extra.Emult = card.ability.extra.Emult + card.ability.extra.Emult_gain
            return {
                message = '+^' .. '0.05',
                card = card
            }
        end
        if context.joker_main then
            return {
                Emult_mod = card.ability.extra.Emult,
                message = localize { type = 'variable', key = 'a_powmult', vars = { card.ability.extra.Emult } },
                message = '^' .. card.ability.extra.Emult,
                colour = G.C.MULT    
            }
        end
    end```

[edgy reef]

If so you need Talisman, SMODS doesn’t support this natively.

[lyric jasper]

i have talisman so its not that

[red flower]

does it not work at all or just some parts

[lyric jasper]

the joker_main part works

            card.ability.extra.Emult = card.ability.extra.Emult + card.ability.extra.Emult_gain
            return {
                message = '+^' .. '0.05',
                card = card
            }
        end```
this doesnt

[red flower]

scoring_name is probably the poker hand key instead of the name

for custom hands

[sleek siren]

I tried this, but the box just slid off the screen

[lyric jasper]

ohh right

ty

[red flower]

idk why it does that every time i send it to other people lol it works for me

[sleek siren]

huh, strange

[red flower]

you probably need a correct major

[sleek siren]

What's a major?

[red flower]

maybe G.ROOM_ATTACH

[red flower]

it's the object theyre attached to for position and animation

[sleek siren]

ohhhhhhhhh

[tall wharf]

is this not how i do it

[placid star]

okay so that works but it triggers for itself, would {and context.other_joker} work to have it only trigger for other jokers triggering
if that makes sense

[sleek siren]

Same effect unfortunately :(

[strong jacinth]

Anyone have an align guide?

And a size guide.

[red flower]

context.other_card ~= card

[tall wharf]

in src code there are comments

[strong jacinth]

Like for the jumbopixels

[sleek siren]

it also seems like align isn't doing anything

[red flower]

yeah it's probably not attached to anything so it can't align itself properly

idk what would work for the main menu

[sleek siren]

ohhhhhh, that would make sense,

How could I align it based on the total screen?

[red flower]

main menu seems to use room attach (this is for the game version text)

[placid star]

do arrays start at 0 in lua?

[red flower]

no, 1

[open aspen]

how can i create a card from a specific pool

eg planet pool

[placid star]

ahh, apologies i come from vb

[red flower]

SMODS.add_card{set = "Planet"}

[red flower]

i mean most start at 0

[lyric jasper]

would it be like this? context.scoring_name == 'ManoT' ?

[red flower]

probably needs the mod prefix

[lyric jasper]

okei ty 🙂

[sleek siren]

It works!!! Thank you

[rapid stag]

do you have anything that explains the arguments for Sprite()?

[radiant plank]

im using a CardArea to render some jokers in a ui. I don't want the jokers to be clickable/sellable/moveable, as it results in nil accesses leading to a crash (the ui is in the main menu). how do i accomplish this?

[rapid stag]

thanks!

[sleek siren]

how do I update the UIbox?

[red flower]

card.states.click.can = false
card.states.drag.can = false
maybe?

[red flower]

what do you need to update

[tall wharf]

asd

[sleek siren]

I'm planning on having text on it that switches every few seconds

[red flower]

you can use a ref_table and ref_value for text so it's tied to a variable inside a table

[sleek siren]

Oh! Alrighty! ^^ And it will just update when I change the ref_value?

[red flower]

yes

[radiant plank]

perfect, thanks so much!

[sleek siren]

Cool! ^^

Also, is there a way I can run something as soon as the run starts?

[red flower]

hook function Game:start_run

[sleek siren]

Oh! Ok! ^^ Thanks!

[rugged pier]

is there a way to get all the enhancements, editions, and seals from a playing card?

[sleek siren]

Could I have an example of how to hook a function? I forgot,

[red flower]

https://github.com/nh6574/JoyousSpring/blob/afd2ccbcfc78f34f7d15a559bbf60f94de97afb9/src/extra_deck.lua#L260

[sleek siren]

ohhhhh

thank you! ^^

[red flower]

for enhancements SMODS.get_enhancements, for edition i think it's just card.edition
for seals idk

[rugged pier]

gotcha tysm

[keen tiger]

Why does this trigger during the Intro?

G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
    blocking = false, 
    trigger = "condition", 
    ref_value = G.STATE == G.STATES.MAIN_MENU,
    func = start_setup_run_puppet
}));

I thought it would trigger in main menu

[rugged pier]

so it woule be smods.get_enhancements(card) yeah?

[red flower]

yeah

[digital niche]

is there something wrong here?

[tall wharf]

deathly ill

[rugged pier]

what do each of these return if its base enhancement/edition

[red flower]

ref_value should be a string to check in ref_table like ref_table[ref_value]

[keen tiger]

o

[red flower]

i think they return nil? not entirely sure on get_enhancements

[keen tiger]

so:

G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
    blocking = false, 
    trigger = "condition", 
    ref_table = G.STATE,
    ref_value = G.STATES.MAIN_MENU,
    func = start_setup_run_puppet
}));

[rugged pier]

ty

[red flower]

no

[keen tiger]

then what?

[radiant plank]

how would one go about suppressing the animation and sound effect for a foil/holo/polychrome joker when it initially gets displayed?

[rugged pier]

--Function to return modifications from one card
function modifications_card(card)
    enhancements = SMODS.get_enhancements(card)
    editions = card.edition
    return editions, enhancements
end

can you return multiple thungs from a function and access them by calling it like so

enhancement, editions = modifications_card(card)

[red flower]

G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
    blocking = false, 
    trigger = "condition", 
    ref_table = confition_table,
    ref_value = "condition",
    func = start_setup_run_puppet
}));

then in another part of the code you do
condition_table.condition = true

[red flower]

yes

[keen tiger]

wait, i cant do that since i dont even know when game state changes

[zealous glen]

What messages do you think this Joker should have?

[keen tiger]

how can i get a callback if the game state is main menu and then do a thing?

[zealous glen]

I was considering if it finds no cards to draw, but I'm not sure that's fitting. I'm not even sure it should have a message in that case

But what should it say if it draws anything. Just "draw"?

[heady siren]

How would I go about adding a config menu to my mod through the mod menu?

[red flower]

you can do 'immediate' instead and just let the event run infinitely until G.STATE == G.STATES.MAIN_MENU

[heady siren]

'Reunion!'

[keen tiger]

okay guess thats what i gotta do then 🤷

[rapid stag]

that's me!

[zealous glen]

Cool art

[rapid stag]

i know right daemontsun did a really good job with this, i'm so happy

[red flower]

eremel helped me with this one https://github.com/nh6574/JokerDisplay/blob/main/src/config_tab.lua

[zealous glen]

I was thinking something more neutral in case I reuse this kind of mechanic. I intended to have more though at the moment I removed most of them

Tour Guide of the Underworld was fired

[heady siren]

Thanks, I wanna add a checkbox for custom music [=

[tall wharf]

😭

[placid star]

how would you make your own custom class?

[red flower]

!

[tall wharf]

what's wrong here 😭

[zealous glen]

what are you trying to do

[tall wharf]

solitaire

[iron iron]

colour still dont work

[digital niche]

bump

[zealous glen]

what's your issue

[digital niche]

i want to know if this code is wrong

[red flower]

are you defining the color somewhere?

[digital niche]

because it isnt doing anything

[modern kindle]

i mean if it isnt doing anything then yea, something is wrong

[red flower]

Does nothing...?

[zealous glen]

If we knew what you were trying to do we could maybe deduce what's wrong

We cannot however divine it

[digital niche]

its a event to flip cards when changing the enhancement

[zealous glen]

where's the rest of the code

[keen tiger]

okay, apparently trying to repeatedly queue events just explodes the whole game so uh

i tried making a delayed event but its just not working either

[digital niche]

i just have this with the flip cards thing

[keen tiger]

function start_setup_run_puppet()
    G.FUNCS.start_run(e, {stake = 1, seed = nil, challenge = nil});
end

G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
    blocking = false, 
    trigger = "after",
    delay = 5,
    func = start_setup_run_puppet
}));

[primal robin]

Why you're using camelCase alongside with snake_case?

[sleek siren]

I must have implimented this incorrectly, It doesn't seem to change

[red flower]

this is an infinite loop

[edgy reef]

Screw variable naming conventions

[zealous glen]

you people use consistent cases

?

[keen tiger]

wait what

[tall wharf]

uh

[keen tiger]

how

[tall wharf]

i am stupid

[red flower]

events need to return true to end

[keen tiger]

oh...

[zealous glen]

I think it's more fair to say that

The Event queue doesn't remove the Event from the queue

[primal robin]

Like, code consistency, you know?

[zealous glen]

Unless it returns true

So it tries to execute the Event again

[red flower]

config = { ref_table = your_table, ref_value = "value_inside_table" , colour = ..., scale = ... }

[modern kindle]

nah if you have time to make it consistent, then you arent using the time to make it the best..

[keen tiger]

its still not exiting?

im so confused

function start_setup_run_puppet()
    G.FUNCS.start_run(e, {stake = 1, seed = nil, challenge = nil});
    return true
end

G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
    blocking = false, 
    trigger = "after",
    delay = 5,
    func = start_setup_run_puppet
}));

[zealous glen]

It is consistent with the rules whispered by the fourth dimensional demon that lives in the back of my brain

[radiant plank]

bump :)

[sleek siren]

ohhhhhhhh thank you ^^

[zealous glen]

sound should be a variable you pass when setting the Edition

Depending on what you mean by animation, I think there's a variable too

[lyric jasper]

how can i make a deck with only some specific ranks?

[radiant plank]

i see inside Card:start_materialize there's a call to self:juice_up. am i looking in the right spot?

not sure how i would go about avoiding that if so

[red flower]

wdym

[keen tiger]

sorry its still not starting the game i mean

[zealous glen]

why are you looking there

[keen tiger]

i wait 5 seconds and nothing happens

[radiant plank]

i dont know

[red flower]

where are you putting the event

[zealous glen]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/SMODS.Edition

[keen tiger]

uhhh just in the root of the file

----------------------------------------------
------------MOD CODE -------------------------

function start_setup_run_puppet()
    G.FUNCS.start_run(e, {stake = 1, seed = nil, challenge = nil});
    return true
end

G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
    blocking = false, 
    trigger = "after",
    delay = 5,
    func = start_setup_run_puppet
}));

----------------------------------------------
------------MOD CODE END----------------------

[radiant plank]

i think i see, im pretty sure i just pass false as the last argument to card:set_edition and it will suppress it

[red flower]

i dont think itll work like that, you probably need to hook something

[radiant plank]

im using the base game's set_edition

[rugged pier]

--Select 2 cards. Destroy the left, give its modifications to the right.
SMODS.Consumables {
    set = 'Tarot',
    key = 'spike',
    --atlas = 'scadrial',
    pos = { x = 5, y = 2 },
    config = {
        min_highlighted = 2,
        max_highlighted = 2,
    },
    discovered = true,
    unlocked = true,
    can_use = function(self, card)
        if #G.hand.highlighted ~= self.config.max_highlighted then
            return false
        end
        return true
    end,
    use = function(self, card)
        local rightmost = G.hand.highlighted[1]
        for i=1, #G.hand.highlighted do if G.hand.highlighted[i].T.x > rightmost.T.x then rightmost = G.hand.highlighted[i] end end
        for i=1, #G.hand.highlighted do
            G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after',delay = 0.1,func = function()
                if G.hand.highlighted[i] ~= rightmost then
                    modify_card(G.hand.highlighted[i], rightmost)
                end
                return true end }))
            G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after',delay = 0.1,func = function()
                card:start_dissolve()
                return true end }))
        end
    end,
}

assuming my "modify_card" function is right, is this the right way to destroy a card?

used the code from hanged man

[keen tiger]

so do i just hook love.run or

[tall wharf]

is this not correct 😭

[primal robin]

Looks ok

[red flower]

probably Game:main_menu or Game:splash_screen

[keen tiger]

hmm ok

[radiant plank]

thanks, just managed to locate it myself but i appreciate you showing me

[tall wharf]

do i need a role

[keen tiger]

you know what imma just move on to the next step

[primal robin]

If you want to move all this stuff then yes, of not - probably okay without

[tall wharf]

here

[primal robin]

Oh role not bond

[tall wharf]

ok here was the old function i was using

[sleek siren]

Did I do this correctly?

[keen tiger]

okay, so my mod needs to do two-way communication with some server. i could do http polling but tbh i kinda want to use websockets since its more immediate. this is insane but would it be feasible for me to just include a websocket lib with my mod and then do calls on it

[red flower]

no, ref_table and ref_value are for the G.UIT.T node

[sleek siren]

?

[keen tiger]

like, is there a way for me to have some .dll that my mod links at runtime and then calls ffi functions on

[keen tiger]

again insane but i dont want to shoehorn a polling system thats so laden with footguns

[iron iron]

in the suit

im just trying to set it to the suit colour

[red flower]

hmm weird then

[narrow iron]

Any idea why my elseif statement here is never running? It doesnt need to run when valid_hand is true so idc about that situation

[red flower]

context.cardarea instead of G.cardarea

[narrow iron]

Ahh okay

[sleek siren]

I fixed that, but it doesn't change when I change the value

[red flower]

can i see the code

[narrow iron]

Still isnt running

[red flower]

ref_value has to be a string

[sleek siren]

ohhhhhhhh whoops

Thanks!

[narrow iron]

This is the current code i have

[sleek siren]

It works!! ^^

[red flower]

maybe try context.after and context.main_eval instead?

[digital niche]

yeah there is

[rugged pier]

bump

[radiant plank]

i'm creating an ace of spades for a UI using this call Card(cax + caw/2, cay, cw, ch, G.P_CARDS.S_A) but the card gets rendered with the "base" joker text on top of it. how do i make this call properly?

[sleek siren]

I'm confused, it seems like this should be putting each text item vertically, but it puts them right next to eachother

[digital niche]

can someone help me please?

[red flower]

each text node needs to be inside a different row node

[sleek siren]

ahhhh, thank you ^^

[narrow iron]

that causes it to run before the cards begin scoring

[red flower]

that is always true of calculate, you need to put things in events if you dont want that

[narrow iron]

Then whats the point of context.after ?

[red flower]

the things you return in context.after are shown after the hand is scored, but everything you do in calculate before the return is done before like the rest of the scoring

[sleek siren]

How could I make a UIBox to appear above everything?

[zealous glen]

I just know it needs to be drawn after

[iron haven]

`local icon_lc = SMODS.Atlas {
key = "icon_lc",
path = "icon_lc.png",
px = 18,
py = 18,
}

local icon_hc = SMODS.Atlas {
key = "icon_hc",
path = "icon_hc.png",
px = 18,
py = 18,
}` can I delete these and the pictures?

[zealous glen]

What do you think?

Charon
When you destroy a card, this Joker gains $2 of sell value
This Joker gives Chips equal to its sell value

[iron iron]

ive tried looking at wiki and cant find anything

[tall wharf]

lmao

[red flower]

vlat

[tall wharf]

so close

[red flower]

the vertical cardarea is cool

[digital niche]

bump

[zealous glen]

Galdur did it first smh my head

[red flower]

galdur is boomer stuff now we're all about balatro solitaire

[iron haven]

I don't want these.

[zealous glen]

the worms

[iron haven]

?

[rugged pier]

use = function(self, card)
        local leftmost = G.hand.highlighted[0]
        local rightmost = G.hand.highlighted[1]
        for i=1, #G.hand.highlighted do if G.hand.highlighted[i].T.x > rightmost.T.x then rightmost = G.hand.highlighted[i] end end
        for i=1, #G.hand.highlighted do
            G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after',delay = 0.1,func = function()
                if G.hand.highlighted[i] ~= rightmost then
                    modify_card(G.hand.highlighted[i], rightmost)
                end
                return true end }))
            G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after',delay = 0.1,func = function()
                leftmost:start_dissolve()
                return true end }))
        end
    end,

line 30 is leftmost:start_dissolve()

what am i doing wrong here?

[heavy hare]

is there a reason a UIBox returned from get_UIE_by_ID would not be able to be removed? i'm getting attempt to index field 'object' (a nil value) but the actual UIBox that i get is able to be read out as a table so i know it's there

sprite_node = {n=G.UIT.C, config={minw=2,align = "cm",},nodes={{n=G.UIT.O, config={id='tracker_Small',maxh=0.5,object = sprite}}}}
local remove = G.HUD_blind_tracker:get_UIE_by_ID('tracker_Small')
remove:remove()

i can read remove but it errors when i try to remove:remove()

(cut out some of the setup there obv, but it does appear to be readable, just not removable. is that how i use remove()? is the ID in the right place)?

[red flower]

arrays start at 1

[rugged pier]

ahhhh

[narrow iron]

yeaaa... i probably shouldve realized that, it works now tho!

[sturdy compass]

aiko you are actually insane

[glad osprey]

is something like this possible

[marble flint]

it's possible, but it might require Effort

[old bane]

bruh no way

[glad osprey]

just tell me what to do

[old bane]

i think if you were to do something like this youd have to also account for controllers as they dont have the same “hover” system

[marble flint]

there's not a pre-built system for this right now (at least, not that I know of) and I'm not about to build one for you to tell you how to do it yourself

[glad osprey]

how dare you not do my job for me 😢

[tall wharf]

😭

[zealous glen]

maybe you could hack it by adding an object that can be hovered over at those positions

[tepid crow]

🤣

[old bane]

i think i saw something that relates to hover events in game.lua , and you can also look at the UI lua file in balatro for that too

[tall wharf]

ui develiopment

[zealous glen]

Lars laughing at the insanity of their fellow modders

[old bane]

other than that i cant really give much more guidance because UI isnt my forte lmao

[tepid crow]

what can I say, I like seeing people go insane

[old bane]

new boss blind: just play solitaire idiot /j

[zealous glen]

lars go find a mirror while I find someone in need of help with a Paperback bug

[tall wharf]

this is literally what i was gonna do

[zealous glen]

Balatro is already solitaire though ;P

[tepid crow]

no worries, I'm already having issues with Sleeves modifying themselves because I made bad design decisions in the past

[zealous glen]

What do y'all think by the way

[tall wharf]

sorry I meant Klondike

[old bane]

literally making a new system rn for seals or “badges” in balatro and i kinda wanna make it like an api so other ppl can do it (but its legit just SMODS.Seal so idk unless i can somehow just make it way easier for people to make seals specifically for jokers)

[tepid crow]

would probably read better if it said "gains $2 sell value and 5 chips"?

[old bane]

honestly i like the dual purpose of this one, gives you extra scoring early game and gives you a boost in money later on

[old bane]

i just wish i knew how to make debug plus like allow me to apply seals to jokers with the debug command for them

[zealous glen]

It also gains Chips if it gains sell value in other ways

[tepid crow]

yeah I know

[zealous glen]

I agree it would read better but it would be less accurate

[old bane]

and also making these seals exclusive to jokers and a floating sprite somehow >_>

[tepid crow]

and I still think the card reads so bad it would be better to change it in the way I described

[zealous glen]

Oh are you suggesting a mechanical change?

[tepid crow]

only slightly yeah

only gets impacted by gift card in vanilla

[zealous glen]

and Editions

and Stickers

[tepid crow]

huh, true 🤔

[zealous glen]

What do you think is bad about the wording

[tepid crow]

idk I don't like the "if A this card gains B; gives C based on B"

feels like you're making me do math for no reason haha

[tall wharf]

finally

[zealous glen]

That was the goal of the card

Also the card does the math for you

The original version was simpler since it was 1-to-1

[tepid crow]

yeah that's a lot easier already

[tepid crow]

That's helpful but my first thought is still "why"

[glad osprey]

how does ui work

[zealous glen]

I think you wouldn't like Skyscraper then

[tepid crow]

prolly not haha

[zealous glen]

@tepid crow

[zealous glen]

but anyways if the issue is math then the issue isn't the wording

[tepid crow]

no I love that card

[zealous glen]

You do need to do a lot of math for it

[tepid crow]

hmm

maybe it's just because it feels like your card goes directly against thunk's design principles?

[zealous glen]

That is intentional though

I want to try out effects that scale with a card's own sell value

But without external sell value manipulation they don't make sense

and I don't want a lot of that

hence internal sell value manipulation

[modern kindle]

That's just alot of mods in general that go 'against thunks design'
Else he would've had all of these in the game

[zealous glen]

I mean I want to be vanilla-ish

This is closer to "-ish"

[tepid crow]

My first thought when I read the card was "why is this so unnecessarily complicated". Rereading it and thinking about it more explains why it's that way, but doesn't take away the original feeling that it could be reworked into something simpler

[hushed field]

It's the type of card that's both set-up and pay-off, which kind of feels like it's a combo contained in one card

[zealous glen]

I could have just the sell value gain, and give another Joker both sell value gain and Chips bonus

[gleaming zealot]

add my homie to balatro

[zealous glen]

I feel like the set-up here is destroying playing cards though

[paper zealot]

Do you mean how to use a colour besides the predefined ones in LOC_COLOURS?
Instead of {C:<colour-key>} you can use {V:<index>}, where index is the array index of a colour that you provide in loc_vars.colours
If you're using Steamodded, check here for how to define loc_vars -- in that example, {V:2} would be the colour HEX(card.ability.extra.colour_string)

[hushed field]

nah the set up is gaining sell-value, the pay-off is chips based off of sell-value. The card destruction is more so the trigger. But if you separated the two effects into two different cards, you wouldn't make the set-up card the one that only destroys cards, you'd make it one that gains sell value. But I think the problem isn't the design, per se, it's that it's a design for an archetype of joker that the vanilla game doesn't have enough support for for this design to make sense without being its own enabled, I'd say

[paper zealot]

Have you read this guide?

[glad osprey]

yes

[spiral crown]

anyone know why SMODS.Consumeable would throw a nil value?

[modern kindle]

Aside of the fact the pay off is also the fact it has a larger sell value
How can the set up also be the payoff

[hushed field]

If I'd come at it from card game design, I'd say that the sell value in that design also becomes an additional upside, rather than the core of the effect. Especially with it being a joker named Charon, I'd say the effect is probably meant to connect to the sell value the most, flavourwise, but in this case it's the middle-man (though I guess that might just be more on-flavour for this card). But the mechanical core is kind of just a side product for the eventual effect, which is that you gain chips for each card destroyed

[zealous glen]

Yes, that's is partly why I made it grant itself sell value. Partly because I was inspired by Bazaar items that both gain sell value and scale off that sell value gain.

For Balatro, I don't want to make "granting sell value" a big archetype because otherwise I'd need to rework the entire economy of the game, and that would make it both further from vanilla and possibly inconsistent with other mods.

[tall wharf]

so close

[zealous glen]

The main effect is indeed supposed to be the sell value gain. The Chips were a side-note since I both had been wanting this kind of Bazaar-inspired design, but also because destroying cards is rare enough that it seemed a bit too weak otherwise

[hushed field]

I guess the word choice isn't perfect there, but in magic the gathering design, you can see a shift towards cards more and more often being their own enabled. This means that they have a scaling or triggered effect, and then also an effect that specifically creates the conditions to scale or trigger. In older sets, those are typically separated as 'archetype set-up' and 'archetype pay-off' cards

[zealous glen]

If each Hanged Man costs 4, you aren't making a profit out of this

[zealous glen]

I do think that's a bigger crime when the archetype exists. When there's a commander for a niche archetype, then I think it makes sense for it to be both set-up and payoff.

Like monored Food tokens for example

or if you want a real example, black-red Food tokens

[tepid crow]

Oh, neat. Do you have any examples of these bazaar items?

[tall wharf]

good enough i guess

[hushed field]

In this case, I think the main design issue is just that your sell value aspect isn't positioned as the pay-off, but as a conversion, which feels less flavourful and can read a bit arbitrary. ("Why do I need to do math for this effect?"). I'm not opposed to anti-thunkian jokers that have two separate effects in mods, though, so I think there's space there. I think to me, it's flavour is already more apparent if instead of increasing its own sell value by 2, it increases all sell values by 1, even if it still scales chips. Just because that way it doesn't feel like the sell value is a conversion step with an upside, but like a separate effect that synergizes with its own other effect

[quartz ravine]

Hi folks, I can manually set editions in the collection view using debug plug. Does anyone know what this container is called? I would like to apply my edition to all cards to see how it looks while I'm tuning shader logic

[zealous glen]

Here's a simple example

[glad osprey]

ctrl + q while govering over a card

[quartz ravine]

Thanks! I am trying to do it procedurally!

[glad osprey]

OH ALL CARDS

[hushed field]

also, just for the sake of pedantry, I think reversing the description of the effect, compared to your joker, also gives a better focus on which part of the ability matters, flavourwise

[zealous glen]

The CardAreas are in G.your_collection, [1], [2], and [3]

[quartz ravine]

Perfect, that's exactly what I needed. I will share the snippet when I have it done

[zealous glen]

I think the important ability comes first

Also following the order of when they would apply causally

[hushed field]

Yeah, that's true, it's just that in the Bazaar's case the order is a good illustrator of the flavour. But the order in this case wouldn't actually matter, effectswise, right, as one is an 'aura' and the other triggered?

[tepid crow]

I'm in agreement with Ice on possibly swapping the effects. I noticed it while scrolling through the bazaar wiki that all items have their effect written as "Does X equal to this item's value. When Y, this gains value"

[zealous glen]

Yes in terms of timing. But, again, the Chips are dependent on the sell value, so to me it makes more sense the Chips come later. Also, the sell value is more important, so it also comes first.

[hushed field]

Chips scaling of the sell value is the core ability, though, so in order of feel, you'd put that first. And the text order wouldn't create confusion either

Man, this is the first time I feel like I'm actually at work while on discord, haha. This is like half of my conversations with clients 😋

[zealous glen]

I am trying to strike a balance between my own (MTG-influenced) wording sensibilities with vanilla Balatro's inconsistent templates. I am not above changing vanilla wording, though, and I am considering rephrasing sell value Jokers.

I need to find a satisfying template though

[modern kindle]

Personally I read the core value as the money
+5 chips per dollar feels like an added side piece instead of the sell value

[zealous glen]

I mean, I just disagree that the Chips scaling is the core ability. It's intended to be a minor bonus

[tepid crow]

the joker being together with other sell-value scaling jokers would probably help a good amount in it not feeling out-of-place to be honest

[zealous glen]

I might keep the Chips here for now but (re)move them to another design later

[hushed field]

Then I'd just remove that part of the ability, tbf. It's also just a very negligible amount of chips, after all, if you're at the point of having a consistent destruction effect

[zealous glen]

I do think this Joker is too weak without them, and I don't want to give it large sell value gain

[modern kindle]

Yea +5 chips isn't much at all and if those +5 chips are making that much of a diff you aren't making it much further
If you have enough money for the chips to matter you can just get a better joker entirely

[tall wharf]

done.

[red flower]

lets goooo

[zealous glen]

Charon gets 1 or 2 coins per person after all, IIRC

[tepid crow]

isn't it basically always 2?

or does he regularly get cyclopses

[zealous glen]

I thought it was 1, but people were buried with 2, and Charon might do double river duty

[tall wharf]

gn guys

it's 5am

[zealous glen]

Goodnight aiko

https://tenor.com/view/webby-ducktales-sleep-go-to-sleep-threat-gif-26694190

[tall wharf]

with thicker deck

[tepid crow]

oh wait I'm confusing coins on the eyes with charon I think

[zealous glen]

The coins on the eyes were for Charon IIRC

[tepid crow]

if they are connected, he'd get 2 yeah

[zealous glen]

Charon's obol is an allusive term for the coin placed in or on the mouth[1] of a dead person before burial.
maybe it was in the mouth actually

Although archaeology shows that the myth reflects an actual custom, the placement of coins with the dead was neither pervasive nor confined to a single coin in the deceased's mouth.[3]

[hushed field]

Charon is coin in the mouth mostly, coins on the eyes is a western European christian tradition that stems from it

Folk religion type christian tradition, but from a lot later at least

[tepid crow]

Charon's obol is an allusive term for the coin placed in or on the mouth of a dead person before burial. Greek and Latin literary sources specify the coin as an obol, and explain it as a payment or bribe for Charon, the ferryman who conveyed souls across the river that divided the world of the living from the world of the dead.

Contrary to popular etiology there is little evidence to connect the myth of Charon to the custom of placing a pair of coins on the eyes of the deceased, though the larger gold-foil coverings discussed above might include pieces shaped for the eyes. Pairs of coins are sometimes found in burials, including cremation urns; among the collections of the British Museum is an urn from Athens, ca. 300 BC, that contained cremated remains, two obols, and a terracotta figure of a mourning siren. Ancient Greek and Latin literary sources, however, mention a pair of coins only when a return trip is anticipated, as in the case of Psyche's catabasis, and never in regard to sealing the eyes.

[tired skiff]

would somone be nice enough to tell me why my code dosnt work :3

[tepid crow]

so yeah I got them confused

[zealous glen]

catabasis mentioned

[tired skiff]

there is no crash

[hushed field]

Placing coins on the eyes I think also came from the practical use of it keeping eyes shut

[tired skiff]

ill send a ss of the problem in a sec

well its hard to send a ss but basicly the joker works but it vibrates when cards are scored

[quartz ravine]

Thank you Victin!

If anyone else needs to do this,

function forceEditionCollectionView(s)

    for _, jokerCard in ipairs(G.your_collection[1].cards) do
      jokerCard:set_edition(s, true)
    end
    
    for _, jokerCard in ipairs(G.your_collection[2].cards) do
      jokerCard:set_edition(s, true)
    end
    
    for _, jokerCard in ipairs(G.your_collection[3].cards) do
      jokerCard:set_edition(s, true)
    end
    
end

Then you can use it in the collection, just run eval forceEditionCollectionView('holo')

[tepid crow]

just don't return true

[zealous glen]

Something I think I've seen mods do is give a relevant Tarot when a card is bought

[tepid crow]

though you should probably have the joker creation be in an event (of which the end of the event needs to return true)

[zealous glen]

Which I think is cute but I don't like the design

[tired skiff]

ah that works

[spiral crown]

attempting to make my first consumeable, little lost here if someone wouldn't mind giving me some advice

[zealous glen]

Feels too much like doing something unrelated

[tired skiff]

well i dont know how to do that and the code works currently soo... dont fix what is barely working

[tepid crow]

Thunk's misspelling of consumeable strikes again

[modern kindle]

Consumeable over consumable

[tepid crow]

you can check the code for riff-raff if you want

[modern kindle]

Lars faster than me
Curse my slow mobile fingers

[zealous glen]

anyways thanks @tepid crow @hushed field @modern kindle for the feedback. I'll keep it in mind at some indeterminate point in the future when I come back to this

[spiral crown]

honorable mention to 'Caino' lol thanks

[zealous glen]

gluttenous

[tepid crow]

True, but instead of giving the answer I made a stupid joke lol

oops

wrong reply

[modern kindle]

Now we can all sit at the table and eat some cake

[zealous glen]

glutteous

[tired skiff]

what nil do change to change the random jokers rarity?

[old bane]

i think if you put nil, it just does the vanilla method of polling rarity (common has like a 70% chance, uncommons have like a 20%, and rares have a 10% iirc)

[tired skiff]

im confused

so waht do i need to add for it to be a specific rarity

[old bane]

if you want it to be a specific vanilla rarity, you put a number between 1-3 (there's a parameter in the function specifically for making legendaries), and if you want it to be a modded rarity, you just put the key for that modded rarity

so if you wanted it to only be commons it would just be 1, if you wanted a modded rarity that had the key mod_epic you just put "mod_epic"

[tired skiff]

like this

[old bane]

yes iirc

[tired skiff]

k lemme test

[quartz ravine]

I love this!

[old bane]

but also I would reccommend that you try using SMODS.add_card(t) or SMODS.create_card(t), as those make it much more clear on how to make a joker

[quartz ravine]

Those emojis! Lol!

[tired skiff]

it in fact does not work

[quartz ravine]

It is a yugioh reference. I am trying to give the cards also a sharp rectangular golden border, like the Maximum gold cards from the game

[modern kindle]

I gotta say that looks great visually @quartz ravine

I also just really like gold and black together

[tired skiff]

nvm i didnt update the code mb

it works

[old bane]

lets goooo

[quartz ravine]

Thank you, I have been working on this one for...so long

[old bane]

btw this is just a nitpick but for the $2 part off your description i would use {C:money} or {C:gold} to make it look more like a vanilla description :3

[tired skiff]

hey zombo

do u know how to set money to 0

[modern kindle]

Don't worry, I've decided I'll take credit so it's off your hands <3
(I am joking)

[old bane]

This is how the 0x does it in game
ease_dollars(-G.GAME.dollars, true)

[tired skiff]

0x?

ok

[old bane]

the ox boss blind

[tired skiff]

ahh ok

[old bane]

i think it's much more "safe" to use ease_dollars than to modify money directly, so using this solution is much better

[tired skiff]

yeah

[old bane]

technically you could modify the money variable directly but if there's a function to change money i would use it lmao

[sterile crater]

how can i retexture a joke with a sprite that has a higher resolution than the normal res? are there any guides anywhere on how to do this?

[tired skiff]

it only makes legendarys

hmmm

[quartz ravine]

Does anyone understand how / why shaders don't apply to foreground objects in legendaries?

for some reason, my shaders do overwrite the foreground.

This must be something in send_vars for legendaries, I bet I don't handle it

[tired skiff]

my problem has been solved but it was buggy and then i fixed it with return true and now it shakes again with each played card but if i dont return true it breaks

[rapid stag]

oh god, save yourself, get out while you still can

[heady siren]

How do I check if the player is currently in a specific booster pack outside of contexts?

I've tried G.STATE == G.STATES.[cardtype]_PACK and it isn't working

[tepid crow]

that was gonna be my suggestion

but it depends on the pack

which pack specifically?

[heady siren]

Any of them, I'm making custom music, and I made a track for every base game pack rather than just default and celestial

So G.booster_pack_sparkles isn't really an option

[tepid crow]

yeah just the G.STATE == G.STATES.<>

what doesn't work about it?

[heady siren]

It isn't playing the music

[tepid crow]

I mean there could be a hundred reasons for that

does the if check work as intended?

[heady siren]

This is my current sound hierarchy

Everything plays properly except for the specific booster pack tracks

The default booster pack does work properly

[tepid crow]

have you tried printing out G.STATE?

[heady siren]

I'll try that real quick

Every booster pack prints the same number, 999

[crisp coral]

ah that's SMODS' state for boosters

[tepid crow]

yup, see https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/blob/main/lovely/booster.toml#L67

[heady siren]

How can I get the proper state?

[tepid crow]

I think you can check SMODS.OPENED_BOOSTER to see the pack-type?

some sort of .config.center.key

[heady siren]

I used this method and it worked, hell yeah

[quartz ravine]

I love how the sounds play faster and faster! I have one Joker that's an easter egg Akuma reference, and he says 'METSU', well when he retriggers over and over and over, it becomes hilarious

[heady siren]

How do I save a value between restarts? I don't want people to have to turn on my music every time they start the game

[old bane]

config files are your friend in that case

most mods with customizable configs can show you how they work

[tepid crow]

should be automatically saved/loaded if you use the default smods config method

[quartz ravine]

hi doods, can I use take_ownership to modify a default joker? I made a goldish card and I want Gold Joker to also apply to them

[iron haven]

the text of these are like umm

[tepid crow]

isn't that one of the main reasons take_ownership exists?

[iron haven]

how do I fix this?

Hearts, Clubs, and Diamonds' text are weird

[heady siren]

What method are you using to change their colors?

[iron haven]

um...

I don't know where.

[heady siren]

Are you using somebody else's mod to change the suits?

[iron haven]

yeah. but it is just the cards in the deck.

[heady siren]

I'm confused, are you coming here to try and fix the text colors on somebody else's mod?

[iron haven]

they should be the color of the suits on the cards, right?

[thin anchor]

what one do you guys prefer

[heady siren]

Yeah, but you should contact the developer of the mod for that

[heady siren]

I like the second one, maybe add a light to dark gradient on them to make them more visually interesting?

[thin anchor]

sounds good

[iron haven]

um... I forgot who made it...

[heady siren]

Look up the name of the mod itself in #1209506514763522108 and you'll probably find the original poster

This is mostly a channel for people developing mods themselves

[iron haven]

Steamo did? I think? I don't know.

[heady siren]

Whoever it is, report the bug in their mod post

[unkempt thicket]

After blind defeat how can i change the next sceen to a different one

[iron haven]

I don't remember the name.

examples-master?

[heady siren]

Is the mod from the SMODS examples?

[iron haven]

Is this it?

what should be in there?

[heady siren]

You just downloaded all of the example mods?

All at once?

Those are meant to be references for mod developers

[iron haven]

my deck was in there then I deleted it because it is in the mods folder

[heady siren]

And those aren't the same skins from here

I don't know where you're getting these skins from

[iron haven]

that's from my deck.

[heady siren]

Okay so you are developing a mod

[iron haven]

yeah.

[heady siren]

Why did you say it was somebody else's mod and you didn't know who made it then?

[iron haven]

the texts are the wrong colors, though

[heady siren]

And you don't know where the colors of the suits are set?

[iron haven]

colour = HEX("9734f0"), Is it this?

[heady siren]

Look up 'Spades' in your mod file

[iron haven]

the lua?

or?

[heady siren]

Yes, that is your mod file

Have you looked at the SMODS documentation at all?

You should do that
https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki

[iron haven]

First name jumpscare.

[knotty skiff]

How can i make my joker texture work?

I'm trying to get it onto the second joker i made but nothings working and its a blank image

[heady siren]

Okay, look at the other suits in that file

[heady siren]

What's your atlas code?

[iron haven]

they are all the same hex code.

[heady siren]

Then change that

[marble flint]

do you need to put the hex code in the low contrast settings in addition to the high contrast ones?

[knotty skiff]

atlas = 'Jokers',
pos = {
x = 0,
y = 0
},

i tried to change x and y to get it but i dont know what values i should even put in

everything i did was blank

[heady siren]

Do you want a custom joker texture or one of the default ones?

[knotty skiff]

I made a custom one

[heady siren]

Did you make an atlas?

[knotty skiff]

like this one?

SMODS.Atlas{
key = 'Jokers',
path = 'Jokers.png',
px = 71,
py = 95
}

[iron haven]

I put the hex code in there and it works

[heady siren]

Alright, in the joker you need to do yourmodprefix_Jokers for the atlas

And for x and y it's just the position in your atlas grid

[iron haven]

Are the spades ok?

are they the same colorcolor?

[heady siren]

So if your joker is in the 2nd column and 3rd row of your joker texture you'd put in x = 1, y = 2, because it starts at zero

[knotty skiff]

Ohhhhhhhh

Ill try that out

[heady siren]

For example this is my joker texture, if I wanted to get that 4 color one, I'd put in x = 2, y = 1

[knotty skiff]

It works!

Tysm!

[rugged pier]

do you? i just put the atlas key in my joker's atlas = ... and it worked

my prefix is csmr

[iron haven]

does the spades text and the spade color on the card, match?

[heady siren]

Oh, nevermind

I just put the prefix for my mod also in the atlas name

You don't need the mod prefix, just name your atlas with a unique identifier

[iron haven]

does it or not guys?

[heady siren]

That's for you to decide, that's not really mod development anymore as much as it is design, which would work better in #⚙・modding-general

[last sentinel]

If i wanted to have a joker manipulate the weights of consumable cards, what would be the best way to go about that?

Or at least a good place to start/any known examples of mods doing this

[thin anchor]

compare

[heady siren]

First one is cursed

And the second one triggers my OCD

@last sentinel Because it's not pixelated compared to Balatro's cards

[gilded goblet]

You mean it's less pixelated? I can still see pixels clearly on the first one

[gilded narwhal]

gang how do I get this to show up as +1 hand size and not +1 joker slot

[tepid crow]

I think those are 2 different tooltip keys

[gilded narwhal]

lemme check steamodded

[tepid crow]

yeah e_negative_playing_card

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/blob/main/localization/en-us.lua#L141

[gilded narwhal]

noice noice

[spiral crown]

trying my hand at making a new seal, thus needed a consumeable to have it useable (also first consumeable) game crashes upon using the spectral card and I'm not sure why

[rugged pier]

is there a way for me to change the base chips granted by a card?
I guess two parts to this question, how do i access the base chips of a card, and then how do i modify it

[spiral crown]

could try looking at hiker

[rugged pier]

context.other_card.ability.perma_bonus = context.other_card.ability.perma_bonus or 0
                        context.other_card.ability.perma_bonus = context.other_card.ability.perma_bonus + self.ability.extra

this is what hiker does

[tepid crow]

I'm guessing it's because you're referring to your wseal externally (SMODS doesn't know for sure which mod is running this code), so you'll need the full key of your seal?

[rugged pier]

what i want to do is x4 the base mult, im not sure how the code would change here

instead of + self.ability.extra it would be * card.ability.extra.bonus ? (assuming bonus is where i have the x4 factor)

[spiral crown]

is 'wseal' not the full key?

[spark pumice]

How do I define Blueprint behavior?

[tepid crow]

No, it's hidden and a bit confusing. You give your smods objects a key. To avoid key collisions, smods prepends the type and your mod prefix to it, and saves that as the real key (and a copy of your original key is stored at original_key).

The full key basically boils down to [type]_[mod-prefix]_[original-key], e.g. j_lars_jimbo for a joker (j) from a mod with prefix lars and original key of jimbo. See #💻・modding-dev message for some more examples.

[spiral crown]

any chance its as simple as 'S' when referring to a seal instead of 'j' for joker?

[tepid crow]

I'm actually not sure what the prefix for SMODS.Seal is, let me check that

[spiral crown]

for future reference where are you checking? I didn't see anything like that in the github for making a seal

[tepid crow]

good question

[spiral crown]

well I shall science in the meantime then

[rapid stag]

can i not make animated sprites by creating an ANIMATION_ATLAS and making that the sprite?

[tepid crow]

it probably won't be in the docs, so I checked the source code (I ctrl+f'd src/game_object.lua for prefix) and found these lines of code https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/blob/main/src/game_object.lua#L71

[edgy reef]

The answer is they do not have one.
(it caused issues with taking ownership of vanilla seals).

Just the mod prefix, no class prefix

[tepid crow]

but yeah SMODS.Seal does not have a defined class_prefix so... what flowwey said

[spiral crown]

modprefix_wseal then, okay fingers crossed that works

[tepid crow]

yeah that sounds about right

[spiral crown]

holy hell everything works

I was fully expecting to have to work through the rest of the code if that fixed teh crashing lol

[spiral crown]

Thanks to you and your wrinkly brain

[tepid crow]

https://tenor.com/bUFxt.gif

[rugged pier]

bump

[daring fern]

I'm pretty sure you change the nominal.

[rugged pier]

wdym

[daring fern]

The nominal is how many base chips it gives, its located at card.base.nominal

[rugged pier]

amazing i think this is exactly what im looking for

thank you

[rugged pier]

hmm

it didnt seem to work

this is what i want to do

i want the card to give x4 its base chips

so for example is the enhancement is on 5

then i want to give 20 chips (but not the original 5)

[daring fern]

You would use context.other_card.base.nominal

[rugged pier]

let me try

[rugged pier]

do i need a different context?

[heady siren]

Compared to Balatro's cards
Everything on a screen is pixelated

[spiral crown]

anyone know why this would give me 2 spectrals when I have 3 "oops all sixes" in my joker line?

trying to only get 1 lol

[heady siren]

It's not a problem of chances, that function is running twice for some other reason

[daring fern]

You should be doing create_card('Spectral', G.consumeables)

[heady siren]

That too

[spiral crown]

what would that change?

[daring fern]

I'm not sure.

[spiral crown]

looks like nothing changes when I add the G.consumeables to the create_card

[normal crest]

What is the intention here?

for the joker to create 1 spectral card at end of round?

Or for each card held in hand to be able to create one

Oh wait, it's a seal

[spiral crown]

intention is 1 in 8 chance for it create 1 spectral if the card with the seal is held in hand at the end of round

blue seal but for spectrals and chance based to make it hoipefully a little more balanced

[rapid stag]

trying to manually animate a sprite with the event manager since setting the atlas_table in the SMODS.Atlas() to 'ANIMATION_ATLAS' isn't making it animate

but for whatever reason, it's causing a crash with a variable that i have checked exists at this stage of processing via ``print(tprint())`

kinda stuck

oh i'm a dumbass

wow

how did i not see that

and now it works

[lilac tapir]

Not super familar with scripting
this seem like a simple enough design to try to do?

[normal crest]

Try adding context.other_card == card in your condition

if that doesn't work try adding and context.playing_card_end_of_round and removing the not repetition check

I love undocumented stuff

[normal crest]

Yeah this seems very doable

[lilac tapir]

coolio

[spiral crown]

in addition to the context.other_card?

[normal crest]

no

two different things

Tho

I just tried it and this is all I needed

[daring fern]

How does one draw a shader onto a deck?

[spiral crown]

that worked, thank you, any ideas why I was getting multiples (3 if I had omen globe) with the other method?

[normal crest]

I think it was running that function on every card held in hand

[spiral crown]

I thought that as well and reduced hand size to 1 to test lol

[normal crest]

did it change anything?

[spiral crown]

nope still filled my consumeables

[normal crest]

I guess it's possible it was still running multiple times on your card

but i'm not too sure

[daring fern]

What if you put it in the event manager?

[normal crest]

that wouldn't have fixed it, that would've just made the consumables take longer to spawn

[spiral crown]

possible the spectral card put the seal on multiple times?

[rapid stag]

if i return false from an event function, how can i create a (controllable) delay between that function execution and the next one? since doing trigger = 'after', delay = seems to only apply to the first execution

delay() in the function also doesn't seem to work

screw it, i'll just make it even more scuffed

[daring fern]

How could one draw a second seal on a card?

[reef belfry]

Is this a stupid idea or

[tired skiff]

yes

[reef belfry]

But is it funny

[tired skiff]

agree

[reef belfry]

Then im doing it

[tired skiff]

fair

Q. is the ideal reason for using a fuction for if its like creating a tag or somthing like that

[rugged pier]

bump

[tired skiff]

can u re send this with the line numbers

[tired skiff]

gimme a sec i need to read this

i think the problem is that on line 21 u have context.thingy

u might just needto do value 1 = valie 2 x value 3

with out context cause context is for somthing to happen but not for a value

i have to go for dinner now

[daring fern]

context.other_card is the same as a playing card. It has playing card values.

[tired skiff]

im new to coding so i still dont exactly know what im talking about but im trying

any gtg brb yell at me later

[rugged pier]

but its not able to access that context

[daring fern]

Try using self

[rugged pier]

okay one sec

[rugged pier]

so self.other_card.whatever?

or just

self.whatever

[daring fern]

What object is this?

[rugged pier]

enhancement

[daring fern]

self.base.nominal

[rugged pier]

whoops didnt send line numbers again

here

it basically just cant find the base thing

not sure why

[tired skiff]

send a larger screen shot of the code

[daring fern]

Did this give a crash?

[rugged pier]

no but it doesnt do anything

[daring fern]

Try printing the nominal before and after changing it using card.base.nominal

[rugged pier]

okay one sec

interesting

so it does change it

but it does not score

so its changed for future use?

[daring fern]

Try scoring it again.

[rugged pier]

yeah i did

it does score on next time

how do i make it score on the current hand

[daring fern]

Just make the enhancement give the same amount of chips it should give.

[rugged pier]

it'll look inconsistent since im only upgrading it once, so for future scores it will automatically give it

[rugged pier]

function Card:get_nominal(mod)
    local mult = 1
    if mod == 'suit' then mult = 1000 end
    if self.ability.effect == 'Stone Card' then mult = -1000 end
    return self.base.nominal + self.base.suit_nominal*mult + (self.base.suit_nominal_original or 0)*0.0001*mult + self.base.face_nominal + 0.000001*self.unique_val
end
``` this is the code for getting the value

i suppose i could hook the function

[narrow iron]

i want to add a new cardarea, like the areas for jokers and consumables. i want to make a custom one of those. does anyone know of an example i could use for adding this? like another mod that has accomplished what im looking to do

[daring fern]

Baladrone.

[narrow iron]

yea that sounds about right, i was using that one i just wanted to check if there was another one someone would suggest. but given how immediate that response was im going to assume baladrone is what im using here

[daring fern]

Are there any mods that draw a seal like object on a card?

[heady siren]

Is it possible to remove pixels from the sprite of a card using a shader?

I wanna make a sticker that makes it look like the card is torn and degraded, but still allow enhancements and editions to appear

[tired skiff]

does anyone have any material for me to learn about info queue

[nova temple]

Well that looks pretty nice, finally figured out the implementing all the textures. Now to actually make some sprites.

Any thoughts or suggestions

Or what other mods and additional suits

[heady siren]

I think the larger star sprite is a bit too big on the bottom

For the non-aces

[nova temple]

The "SixSuits" textures are just like that so far just recoloured the suits and put some of the vanilla collabs as options in some of the modded ones
I haven't actually gotten around to doing the sprite work yet

[heady siren]

So the star is from a different mod?

[nova temple]

Yes

[heady siren]

Ah, alrighty

Color wise, I think the yellow should be slightly darkened

Fully saturated yellow on white doesn't tend to read well

[nova temple]

Stars and moons are from "SixSuits"
Fleurons and Halberds are from "Bunco"

[nova temple]

That's true I should make it easier to see

So far more of a proof of concept to add some textures to a couple modded suits

I haven't seen any so I thought I might try to make some

[heady siren]

Also the gradient for the crescents looks too dark at the bottom, I think making the bottom of the gradient the current color of the top of the gradient and making the top lighter would fix that

Notice that the black is darker than any shade of black in the base game

[nova temple]

Good point

[heady siren]

Here's a good guide for spritework for Balatro
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1250386587691388989

[nova temple]

I'm more looking for suggestions for things to actually put on the cards(character and crossover kind). The current textures are more placeholder than anything else.

[rugged pier]

btw all i had to do was change the context to before

and it did exactly what i wanted

lol

no reason to hook

[sturdy compass]

hello chat

[tall wharf]

@sturdy compass hi

[long acorn]

i set these as all the ranks correctly right

[sturdy compass]

Another Yu-Gi-Oh Jonkler has hit Maximus

[last sentinel]

When working on a Deck, how can I access current chips/mult to change them? Seems like the way that core-game Plasma accomplishes it doesnt port to SMODS well, or mayhaps im the fool

[tall wharf]

maximus

help

how do i ui

[sturdy compass]

hand_chips and mult are two global variables that hold the current chip and mult values

[sturdy compass]

Aiko I have no idea

[last sentinel]

ah, doesnt require the context then? (not context.hand_chips?)

[sturdy compass]

nope

[sturdy compass]

I think this commit for the card is funny

[reef belfry]

looks a bit chonky but that might just be me

[tall wharf]

how do i check if card is on certain card area when being dragged

[sturdy compass]

It does look chonky lol

[tall wharf]

as in

i want to make it so that the card goes to a different area when you drag it to a different area

[sturdy compass]

aiko you are doing some advanced bs so I don't know if anyone would have a clue LOL

[tall wharf]

😭

[rose dragon]

i think they should add mult to balatro

[tall wharf]

no stream tonight i have to work

[sturdy compass]

development tomorrow?

[tall wharf]

yep

[rose dragon]

no way

[tall wharf]

there was development last night btw

i have proof

i streamed

[rose dragon]

development yesterday

[tall wharf]

and got off track

then i just started playing osu

while having vs code open

[sturdy compass]

😭

[reef belfry]

aight.. man..

[crisp coral]

girl 💀

[last sentinel]

Is it still context.final_scoring_step for Decks?

[sturdy compass]

If you want an effect that happens with the same timing as Plasma then yes

[last sentinel]

hmm alright

[sturdy compass]

You can use literally any other context with Decks. They calculate all the same

[last sentinel]

thats what i had figured, I have a print statement right after that if and its never getting ran

[sturdy compass]

What functionality are you after?

[long acorn]

why is it nil?

[reef belfry]

me when loc_vars

[sturdy compass]

^

Show your loc_vars function

[last sentinel]

Pretty much just a plasma deck clone but just a different math operation on the chips/mult. Just ran it again and it seems like my calculate function is just never being triggered

[long acorn]

nevermind lol

[sturdy compass]

Can you show your code?

[long acorn]

how do i do that random rank thing mail in rebate does

i have a rng variable to generate a rank now i just dont know where to go througgh with it

[last sentinel]

not sending the rest of the calculate cause rn its just plasma's animation and not gonna post core game code. But yeah neither of those prints ever get called, played through a few antes on the deck and its there visually but not doing the calc

No i dont know why i have name both inside and outside of loc_txt lmao

[daring fern]

Are you checking through G.playing_cards?

[long acorn]

im currently going through card.lua to find mail in rebate

[sturdy compass]

Do you have the Lua extension for VSC? If not, I highly recommend grabbing it because of how much it aids in debugging. There could be something missing somewhere that VSC isn't picking up without it

[last sentinel]

nah but ill go figure that out, would def save me a lot of time lmao. would that prevent calc from even running tho? I'd think syntax would prevent the deck from even be playable but it shows in game fine. happy to be wrong tho

[sturdy compass]

You'll want this

[long acorn]

like, installed?

[sturdy compass]

Lua can be a little loosey goosey sometimes. It's probably not the case but better safe than sorry

[sturdy compass]

Oh my god I'm so sorry I had the wrong thing copied

[long acorn]

what

[sturdy compass]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Mod-functions#in-game-functionality

[long acorn]

oh

[sturdy compass]

That's what you want

[last sentinel]

yeah still never getting those print statements called

[gentle rain]

using "if context.blueprint" or "if not context.blueprint" in the calculate function

[long acorn]

so i should make a config.lua and add that?

sorry im too dumb rn

[sturdy compass]

No. You should be creating this function in your mod's main lua file

[long acorn]

oh

[sturdy compass]

This is the only important bit for what you are trying to do

[sturdy compass]

I just noticed, why is your entire block wrapped in parenthesis?

[last sentinel]

Hm thats how it was on one of the other mods i was looking at. Just tested and no difference with or without it

[sturdy compass]

That's a weird one, never seen that before. Interesting to know it works all the same

[last sentinel]

Loosey Goosey even

[sturdy compass]

ayyy lol

What version is your smods?

[last sentinel]

oh shiz

[sturdy compass]

Oh?

[last sentinel]

beta-0323b

lemme try something a bit fresher

[sturdy compass]

Hmm, that's pretty recent. Not fully up to date but not to a point where it shouldn't be an issue I don't think

worth a shot to update tho

[last sentinel]

yeah still no dice

[sturdy compass]

Thought so :/

[tall wharf]

hhi

[last sentinel]

I had this code working successfully in a challenge instead of a deck. I was running it with Back:trigger_effect in the challenge and it worked great (other than the fact that it nuked Plasma Deck 😬 ). But ideally i have it working in a deck

[sturdy compass]

Ok I just had a closer look at the SMODS.Back docs, your if check should be if context.context == 'final_scoring_step' apparently

Or does it?

Ok I'm insanely confused

[last sentinel]

Yeah.... I had that initially and it wasnt working. Made a few other changes since then so worth another try

[sturdy compass]

You did say calculate just straight up isn't being called right?

[last sentinel]

Unless i REALLY dont know what im doing then yeah. Neither of those print statements in my code are running. But, the deck exists and is playable in game(other than the fact that it does nothing interesting)

apply is only for changing the deck pre-game, and trigger_effect is depreciated yeah?

[sturdy compass]

Yeah that is definitely right

[tall wharf]

omh hiii

[sturdy compass]

hi aiko

[last sentinel]

🙅‍♀️ 🎲

[tall wharf]

am i insane

[sturdy compass]

I'm desperately looking at the function definition itself to see if something's up but I truly cannot see anything wrong

[sturdy compass]

yes

[last sentinel]

I spelled calculate right and everything

[reef belfry]

did not know boosters still had the 71x95 res.... learned that the hard way

[manic rune]

added all the relics, the process wasnt hard but insanely boring 💔

[sturdy compass]

Yeah you did. That's why I'm pulling my hair out in your place 😭

[last sentinel]

I appreciate the solidarity

[manic rune]

context.context?

[sturdy compass]

It's old depricated stuff apparently, dw about it

[long acorn]

ok i just need to find where G.GAME.current_round.mail_card.rank is

cause the crash im getting now is saying is its nil for my joker

[manic rune]

ah ic

[last sentinel]

and like.. the deck shows up in game with the name and loc_txt correctly... maybe ill put in a dummy apply function and see if that works

[sturdy compass]

Whole block gotta go

https://tenor.com/view/2021-garbage-trash-gif-24252544

[last sentinel]

cause even this doesnt run

lmfao

[sturdy compass]

that is bizarre

[long acorn]

oh that goes in main righht

[sturdy compass]

Something tells me you are not doing things right I cannot lie

[gentle rain]

there shouldn't be a comma after 'test b'

[long acorn]

maybe

[sturdy compass]

Lua doesn't care about hanging commas

[gentle rain]

oh

[last sentinel]

hey, ill try anything

[manic rune]

without the XMult part this doesnt even look like smt from balatro ngl 😭

[reef belfry]

theres some readable text on there i think you should change that

[sturdy compass]

I'm just confused as to why you're trying to do stuff with the mail_card variable

[long acorn]

im trying to reference rebate but thunk wanted to cosplay the easter bunny apparently so now im scouring fucking narnia for the relevant code

[sturdy compass]

But why is my question

Why are you trying to reference rebate?

[long acorn]

because im mmakingg a joker with a similar function to rebate

[zealous glen]

You don’t need to use mail. You can create your own variable

[long acorn]

i am

[zealous glen]

Check out Castle from the example mod

That reimplements Castle

[sturdy compass]

I always forget the example mods exist

that would be helpful