💻・modding-dev

[rugged pier]

in calculate yes?

[tawny narwhal]

yes

Yet again, goober moment

[heady siren]

Here's an example of it only playing 2 notes because 2 cards are converted

[dense adder]

does anyone know how misprint has the changing effect?

[rugged pier]

calculate = function(wtv goes here)
if context.joker_main then
mult = card.ability.extra.mult ^ card.ability.extra.mult

[rugged pier]

this is so cool, yeah i really like the sound effects, only thing to keep in mind is game will also play its own sound effects over yours if other things are triggered

but i dont think thats an issue

it sounds well regardless

[heady siren]

First sound plays before anything is scored, last sounds play after everything is scored

[rugged pier]

also i think someone mentioned talisman mod for emult which basically does what you want @tawny narwhal

[rugged pier]

yup i just meant the lasting effects of the first sound

[rugged pier]

local temp_Mult = pseudorandom('misprint', self.ability.extra.min, self.ability.extra.max)
                            return {
                                message = localize{type='variable',key='a_mult',vars={temp_Mult}},
                                mult_mod = temp_Mult
                            }

[tawny narwhal]

Tru but that means dependencies and I started learning lua + modding today

IDK how ez/hard it may be

[dense adder]

thank you

[heady siren]

If you search "Misprint" in the source code you'll find how it does it in the card.lua file

[dense adder]

clarification i meant on the description
the card.lua only has the code

yeah, dont know where the description is for cards in the main code

[heady siren]

The card.lua part has the description changing code

[rugged pier]

shouldnt be too difficult, plus always good practice to use mods that are tried and tested for implementing base functionality than implementing it yourself. alternatively, you can just see how they implement it in talisman

[dense adder]

gotcha

[heady siren]

This is in the Card:generate_UIBox_ability_table function

It's not even part of localization, it's just brute forced into the code that makes the description text itself

[tawny narwhal]

I tried using this but it gave me an error

let me find the error again

[narrow iron]

what is G.GAME.consumable_buffer used for?

[marble flint]

It might be better to put a hook on get_flush(hand)? You can also use SMDOS.PokerHand:take_ownership(...) to modify the hands

[narrow iron]

nvm i get it

[heady siren]

I've also got this joker and enhancement with really gross sound design

[rain slate]

is there a context for whenever a joker is added?

istg if smods does not provide this

[heady siren]

It's a function

add_to_deck(self, card, from_debuff)

[rain slate]

no but that's for

[heady siren]

Like calculate and update

[rain slate]

the joker itself no?

i want it to run whenever any joker is added

[heady siren]

Well yeah, what else do you want to check if a joker is added for?

[rugged pier]

it is the sound version of the word "moist"

[rain slate]

I want to destroy every Legendary that is added

[rugged pier]

jesus

[heady siren]

It'd be context.card_added

Which doesn't include playing cards

[rain slate]

and that's a thing, just undocumented?

[heady siren]

It's at the very bottom

Literally the last one on the Calculate Functions page

[tawny narwhal]

OKay

It doesn't crash

[rain slate]

huh weird

[daring fern]

if context.card_added and context.card.ability.set == "Joker"

[tawny narwhal]

but it doesn't do anything to the mult

[rain slate]

doesn't show in intellisense for me

[rugged pier]

@rain slate

[rain slate]

yes I got the gist

[native zinc]

anyone know what arguments SMODS.change_base() takes

i got this error

[tawny narwhal]

    key = 'singular',
    loc_txt = {
        name = 'Singularity',
        text = {
            "Squares the Mult{}",
        }
    },
    config = { extra = { Xmult = mult } },
    rarity = 1, -- Rare rarity
    atlas = 'singularityatlas',
    pos = { x = 0, y = 0 },
    cost = 1, -- Adjust cost as needed
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { card.ability.extra.Xmult } }
    end,

    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.joker_main then
            return {
                message = localize { type = 'variable', key = 'a_xmult', vars = { card.ability.extra.Xmult } },
                Xmult_mod = card.ability.extra.Xmult
            }
        end
    end
}

This currently gives "Xnil mult"

[stray warren]

mult isn't defined in your extra table, you need to use a literal

[rugged pier]

text = {
            "Squares the Mult{}",
        }

whats happening here with the {}

[daring fern]

Why not just use talisman?

[tawny narwhal]

Excellent question... I think I had colour params and whatnot that I deleted

[tawny narwhal]

So many people saying this... I may as well at this point aye?

[rugged pier]

yes please you will make your life a lot easier

[daring fern]

It has exponential mult integrated into it.

[heady siren]

I'm making the mult and xmult noises for this joker gross too [=

Speaking of, how do I change the sound of a mult trigger on an enhancement, since it just does it with the config?

[bold gyro]

I'm trying to move a played card to the hand, but for some reason it returns with both sides being the card back. What's causing this?

draw_card(G.play, G.hand, 100, 'up', false, v) --v = played card```

[native zinc]

...did modify_rank() change?

oh wait

im stupid

[tall wharf]

sorry guys

i was out for a bit

[manic rune]

hi aiko

[tall wharf]

sorry there was an earthquake

[manic rune]

?????

actually???

[rain slate]

what's the way to check a card's rarity

[heady siren]

card.config.center.rarity

[rain slate]

ok so I have it correctly

so why isn't it doing shit I wonder

[heady siren]

Balatro

[heady siren]

Also, bump

Is there an equivalent to joker_main for enhancements?

[rain slate]

it's not actually doing anything no message no nothing so the context has to be wrong somehow

[heady siren]

That's what the documentation says

[rain slate]

yea

[sturdy compass]

I think you can return a sound attribute to replace the trigger sound with one of your choosing

[heady siren]

In here?

[sturdy compass]

Also I think context.post_trigger or smthn like that is the usual enhancement trigger context

[heady siren]

Ah, alrighty

[sturdy compass]

No in the return in the calculate

[heady siren]

I was looking for what context to use

[sturdy compass]

Ah

[rain slate]

just checking that this is the correct context, yes? if context.card_added and context.card.ability.set == "Joker" and context.card.config.center.rarity == 4

for when a legendary joker is added

[heady siren]

I've decided not to replace the sound but instead layer the sound

[heady siren]

That looks right to me

[sturdy compass]

In that case just do an event manager

[rain slate]

other contexts do get called it seems but this one just does not

[heady siren]

context.post_trigger does not work

[rain slate]

I mean it probably gets called somewhere, but it doesn't go inside the if statement

[tall wharf]

why would i lie

[manic rune]

are you alright 😭

[tall wharf]

yes

i checked on my family immediately

[rain slate]

there's actually no place that context.card_added ever gets called?

???

[sturdy compass]

Ah my apologies, try context.main_scoring instead

[rain slate]

even without the = true there's 7 results and none with card_added, only playing_card_added

[heady siren]

That's what I tried before post_trigger, that also doesn't work

[sturdy compass]

I’m pretty sure card_added is not a vanilla context

[rain slate]

it's the dumped lua with SMODS patches included

[sturdy compass]

Hmm

[rain slate]

• also SMODS itself

[manic rune]

phew, thats good to hear

[stray warren]

It's in calculate_card_added.toml. It's a lovely patch

[sturdy compass]

Weird

[rain slate]

I have no such file...

[heady siren]

Wait, main_scoring does work, but it isn't actually adding the mult

[sturdy compass]

How up to date is your smods

[rain slate]

let me reinstall SMODS

I mean I only started modding like a week ago

so probably pretty up to date

[sturdy compass]

It updates constantly

[sturdy compass]

Show code?

[rain slate]

Add context for adding cards to the deck by @VictinZero in #560
ok

[sturdy compass]

Just realized that context will let me refactor a few cards

[rain slate]

latest update

[heady siren]

This is in calculate, it adds the mult, but about a quarter second later, and doesn't show the message or make the sound

It makes the fleshmult sound, but not the actual mult sound

Set blocking to false I guess?

Okay that fixed it

[rain slate]

fleshmult sounds spooky

[sturdy compass]

Was that literally it?

Big if true

[heady siren]

Let me test again

[heady siren]

It's for the Flesh Joker which will slowly convert your entire deck into Flesh Cards, and it'll start infecting your other jokers too if your entire deck is already Flesh Cards

[rain slate]

so is flesh like

good

[heady siren]

It's good if you can keep it under control

[manic rune]

https://streamable.com/bt09fe

[heady siren]

Because your Flesh Cards slowly decay over time

[manic rune]

i got the cutscene thingy from lcorp to work on my mod :3
-# about 0:18 in

[heady siren]

Actual boss fight holy shit

[manic rune]

only phase 1's passives r finished so far though, but im happy with the visuals

[rain slate]

I forgot to return true at the end of an event and accidentally summoned a beehive from hell

[sturdy compass]

Banger

[narrow iron]

how can i check whether a card is in a booster pack or in a consumable slot? like what its 'area' is

[heady siren]

Warning level 2's track better be included somewhere in the mod I swear to god

[manic rune]

-# maybe?

[rain slate]

I'm pretty sure booster pack cards are literally just G.hand or G.play or smtn and as for consumables it's just G.consumables

[rain slate]

https://medal.tv/games/balatro/clips/jYgsR4ELC-c8Ra7ID?invite=cr-MSw2WkYsMTk5Nzk5MzE1

[manic rune]

holy crap

😭

[heady siren]

This song is too good not to include
https://soundcloud.com/takov-tsarkov/lobotomycorporation-ost-second

[manic rune]

true...

[sturdy compass]

TERRIFYING

[manic rune]

but i mean

we got #1248249207526002698 already

[heady siren]

(Currently X2,931 Mult)

[rain slate]

[narrow iron]

yea but like, how to i check based of the card itself? im basically making an emperor for my own consumables and need to change the can_use function based on if its taking up a consumable slot

[sturdy compass]

I think this takes the cake as the most unhinged video I’ve ever seen here

[rain slate]

I mean cards have card.area I think

but also you can just base your code off of the Emperor code in that case: ```lua
if self.ability.name == 'The Emperor' or self.ability.name == 'The High Priestess' then
for i = 1, math.min((self.ability.consumeable.tarots or self.ability.consumeable.planets), G.consumeables.config.card_limit - #G.consumeables.cards) do
G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after', delay = 0.4, func = function()
if G.consumeables.config.card_limit > #G.consumeables.cards then
play_sound('timpani')
local card = create_card((self.ability.name == 'The Emperor' and 'Tarot') or (self.ability.name == 'The High Priestess' and 'Planet'), G.consumeables, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, (self.ability.name == 'The Emperor' and 'emp') or (self.ability.name == 'The High Priestess' and 'pri'))
card:add_to_deck()
G.consumeables:emplace(card)
used_tarot:juice_up(0.3, 0.5)
end
return true end }))
end
delay(0.6)
end

[manic rune]

its between that and the fucking donkey kong

[sturdy compass]

I don’t think I’ve seen Donkey Kong

[narrow iron]

ohh, i was trying self.area that explains it

[heady siren]

Boss blind effect: SO YOU HAVE CHOSEN DEATH

[rain slate]

boss blind effect: instantly ends your run if you select it

[sturdy compass]

Average aikoyori boss

[rain slate]

you'd better have bought the reroll voucher :)

[rain slate]

I wonder if X10 mult is too little gain for this

cuz it only increments when you get another legendary which is like, rare

[manic rune]

oh, actually?

wait

@sturdy compass

[rain slate]

actually it's probably quite useless unless legendary cards are more common

hmm

maybe starts out at X5?

[manic rune]

thats true

Gurr is probably the worst legendary rn if u add it lol

[rain slate]

the abhorrent chicot:

[manic rune]

u need 2 legendaries to even get it working, and even then, x10 is not even that good

😭

[sturdy compass]

Y’know I feel like I should be more surprised but I’m not

[rain slate]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-chicot-ronald-mcdonald-legendary-joker-gif-15560012248136535311

[manic rune]

truly

[crimson dune]

It has since been resolved and now that my mod has created 15 more Cursed Jokers, the "creates 5 cursed Jokers on spawn" is more meaningful now

[heady siren]

I don't understand the Chicot hate

[manic rune]

i mean, at least it can be used right when you got it

[manic rune]

no score buff

= no happy

[rain slate]

number no go up therefore useless card

[manic rune]

those r some cool cookie run jokers

[sturdy compass]

Fwoop

[heady siren]

No boss blind that fucks my run
= yes happy

[manic rune]

i will also argue that disabling a core mechanic of the game

makes it pretty lame

[heady siren]

That's why it's legendary

[manic rune]

yeah but no other legendaries make your game lamer

all of them contribute to the actual gameplay

chicot turns boss blind into colored big blind with more rewards

[sturdy compass]

Imo legendaries should be focal points of a build and you should do everything in your power to build around it. Chicot does not follow that

[manic rune]

its also why i hate chicot

i dont hate it because its weak, in fact, its strong, but it makes your game more boring

[rain slate]

I mean chicot kinda enables you to build your deck around something without having to fear everything you built crumbling down

[heady siren]

Sometimes you have a really cool run going and the game just goes no fuck you

[crimson dune]

Thanks
Only Moonlight is a Cookie Run character though (she gives ^1.3 Mult per planet card held in consumables)

[rain slate]

that is an abhorrent font

[sturdy compass]

However Chicot is not the focal point here

[heady siren]

I like jokers that mitigate the RNG of the game that can easily fuck you, you can't deckfix your way out of never getting a reroll voucher or the level 1 reroll voucher not give you a good blind or the level 2 reroll voucher steal all your fucking money and not give you a good blind

[rain slate]

and that is coming from me

your pixel font is just way too small

[manic rune]

usually, only 1-2 blinds counter you

[rain slate]

this is true

[manic rune]

so there r not that many cases when you will waste too much money rerolling boss blinds

[rain slate]

incredible

[heady siren]

It's also good if you get it early game, because some blinds aren't full on run killers, but if you don't have your deck super fixed, there's a good chance you just won't draw the cards you need

[manic rune]

i will actually argue its worse early game

[rain slate]

idk how to justify Gorr's status as a legendary

[manic rune]

you need actual e-con and scoring jokers

else you are immediately falling off in ante 12+

its only when you have your deck built, and your joker setup all set that chicot shines

[heady siren]

I've made a joker that draws one of your most abundant card ranks in hand from your deck on your last discard and one that draws one of your most abundant card suits in hand from your deck on last discard, just so you don't end up using all 2-4 discards trying to find the one card you need for a full house or flush and the game just goes no fuck you

[manic rune]

like, think about it

most of the times, you are 1-shotting/2-shotting boss blinds already right?

[rain slate]

it's inspired by Gorr the God Butcher but

1. legendaries are exceedingly rare so it's not much use until you get another one
2. in this analogy the "gods" are the legendaries, but gorr isn't a god himself I think so he should really be rare however
3. I feel like only legendaries should have like actual identities

[manic rune]

whats the point of chicot then

i mean, its definitely there to "save your run", but thats not the case when nothing is built

[heady siren]

Chicot is good for people who haven't gotten absolutely cracked at the game (me, I suck) and can't usually oneshot boss blinds in one hand, and semi-regularly lose to The Needle

[manic rune]

you have a variety of options, since your deck is not full of the same cards

[heady siren]

You are good at the game, you do not need Chicot

I am not good at the game

We are not the same

[manic rune]

nah, its just rng hating u ❤️

but i really think rng from boss blinds is also one of balatro's biggest selling points, you never know what to expect and to keep your guard up after every ante, in case a threatening boss blind comes up

[rain slate]

maybe he also makes legendaries show up in the shop

[heady siren]

I legitimately feel like the game just hates me sometimes, I wanna deck fix and the game refuses to give me Hanged Mans, Trading Card, or Spectral packs

[rain slate]

but only while you have him

[manic rune]

chicot takes that away, you only need to keep up with the ante scaling this time

[rain slate]

like you can't just pick him up, sell him, and roll for perkeo

[manic rune]

game does be like that, yeah 💔

[rain slate]

but also you can just do that while you have him and then sell him once something better shows up

so Gorr is really just perkeo rolling simulator

[heady siren]

You can treat it like Showman, keep rerolling until you get the legendary you want, sell Gorr, and take the legendary, but also, it'd be really funny if when selling Gorr, it destroys all legendaries in shop, just to mess with people playing with the mod for the first time

[rain slate]

that would be really funny

I think I will do that

and then it just plays the "Nope!"

peak cinema

[heady siren]

✋🤚

[rain slate]

lmaoo

anyway how would I do something like that

add legendaries to the shop pool

[heady siren]

New yucky sound design just dropped

[rain slate]

stone cards with ranks and suits

cool

[heady siren]

Placeholder

[rain slate]

aha

[heady siren]

They'll be made of flesh in the finished version

[sturdy compass]

Ewwy

[sturdy compass]

I have a card that actually does that and it’s called the Hammer and Chisel lol

I have a challenge that revolves around it

[willow void]

hi, i keep getting this crash and was wondering if anyone could help me out? Oops! The game crashed:
[SMODS _ "src/utils.lua"]:1245: attempt to call method 'juice_up' (a nil value)

[rain slate]

what does your code look like?

[manic rune]

whats the code

[willow void]

oh right

that would probably help LOL

[heady siren]

This is what it sounds like when a flesh card fucking dies

[hexed heath]

is there a way to check whether a card has any enhancement (mult card, etc)

[willow void]

SMODS.Joker {
    key = 'alexandria',
    loc_txt = {
        name = 'Alexandria',
        text = {
            "{C:green}#1# in #2#{} chance for each",
            "scored face card to become{C:dark_edition} Negative{}"
        }
    },
    config = { extra = { odds = 3} },
    rarity = 4,
    atlas = 'Jokers',
    unlocked = true, 
    discovered = true, 
    blueprint_compat = true, 
    eternal_compat = true,
    perishable_compat = false,
    pos = { x = 1, y = 0 },
    soul_pos = { x = 1, y = 1 },
    cost = 20,
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { G.GAME.probabilities.normal , card.ability.extra.odds } }
    end,

    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.scoring_hand then 
            if pseudorandom('alexandria') < G.GAME.probabilities.normal / card.ability.extra.odds then
                    local faces = {}
                    for k, v in ipairs(context.scoring_hand) do
                        if v:is_face() then 
                            faces[#faces+1] = v
                            v:set_edition(G.P_CENTERS.m_negative, nil, true)
                        end
                    end
                    if #faces > 0 then 
                        return {
                            message = localize('k_:3!'),
                            colour = G.C.MONEY,
                            card = self
                        }
                    end
                end
            end 
        end 
}

[heady siren]

card.config.center ~= G.P_CENTERS.c_base

[rain slate]

SMODS.has_enhancement(card, "m_mult")

oh yeah any enhancement

[heady siren]

Well, now you have both interpretations

[manic rune]

the context is not right

[rain slate]

I think there's also

[manic rune]

what timing do you want?

[rain slate]

#SMODS.get_enhancements(card) > 0

[manic rune]

either context.before or context.after will work here

[rain slate]

for any enhancements

[hexed heath]

ah

thanks

[willow void]

what should i replace?

[manic rune]

dunno, depends on the timing you want

[rain slate]

bump

[willow void]

upon scoring

[manic rune]

ah i see

[daring fern]

How could one make it so you draw your most played hand when blind is selected?

[manic rune]

wait

[heady siren]

I did a janky ass method to do it with my deck back, you could do the same without the rarity comparisons and not removing the previous joker

[rain slate]

that is indeed quite jank

I'd hope there's a better method out there

I will go scour the archives

(github pages of existing mods)

[heady siren]

It's mostly the same idea as rare tags, but it replaces a joker rather than just shoving in one

[rain slate]

I mean I don't wanna shove something in or anything

I just wanna add legendaries to the shop pool

[manic rune]

SMODS.Joker {
    key = 'alexandria',
    loc_txt = {
        name = 'Alexandria',
        text = {
            "{C:green}#1# in #2#{} chance for each",
            "scored face card to become{C:dark_edition} Negative{}"
        }
    },
    config = { extra = { odds = 3} },
    rarity = 4,
    atlas = 'Jokers',
    unlocked = true, 
    discovered = true, 
    blueprint_compat = true, 
    eternal_compat = true,
    perishable_compat = false,
    pos = { x = 1, y = 0 },
    soul_pos = { x = 1, y = 1 },
    cost = 20,
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { G.GAME.probabilities.normal , card.ability.extra.odds } }
    end,

    calculate = function(self, card, context)
          if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play do
              if pseudorandom('alexandria') < G.GAME.probabilities.normal / card.ability.extra.odds then
                if context.other_card:is_face() then 
                  context.other_card:set_edition("e_negative", nil, true) 
                  return {
                            message = localize('k_:3!'),
                            colour = G.C.MONEY,
                            card = card
                   } 
                end
              end
          end
     end 
}

[rain slate]

with their respective weights or whatever

[manic rune]

god, the indentation is horrible

i wrote that on discord 💔

oh wait

the key for negative isnt m_neagtive, is it?

[rain slate]

it's e_negative

[heady siren]

neagtive

[rain slate]

cuz it's an edition 💔

[manic rune]

there, fixed :3

[manic rune]

shhhhhhh

[narrow iron]

ngl i have no idea how emperor even functions after reading through its implementation

[daring fern]

I almost have four of a kind working but some of the cards that get drawn are ghost cards.

[manic rune]

watchu confused about

i can probably break the code down for u

[heady siren]

Some of the base game code is actually incomprehendible because it relies on like 5 other functions you wouldn't think it relies on to work, and you can't easily search for them

[manic rune]

thats very vague, since its hard to determine which rank you should draw

[narrow iron]

when its in a consumable slot and you use it, it still makes the right amount of tarots even though its currently taking one slot up, specifically in the case where you have 2 consumable slots

[daring fern]

I have it so it chooses random ranks.

[willow void]

i am still getting errors :(

[manic rune]

you could do smt like:

• if first card about to be drawn has 3 other copies in the deck, prioritize them
• have a pool for ranks which can do a 4oak

[willow void]

specifically unexpected character near the last }

[manic rune]

wha

oh yeah, i see whats wrong

if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play then
            if pseudorandom('alexandria') < G.GAME.probabilities.normal / card.ability.extra.odds then
               if context.other_card:is_face() then 
                  context.other_card:set_edition("e_negative", nil, true) 
                  return {
                     message = localize('k_:3!'),
                     colour = G.C.MONEY,
                     card = card
                  } 
               end
            end
         end

here

sorry, its kinda inconvenient coding on discord lol

[willow void]

its ok you are fixing my code for me lol

hmm

unexpected symbol near "if" error message

[manic rune]

-# wtf

[narrow iron]

2 consumable slots, one with emperor, one blank
use emperor, properly makes 2 tarots even though only one slot is open
basically i just need to differentiate between when its in a consumable slot or not so i can account for that when writing the can_use function

[manic rune]

are you

sure you copied it right

[willow void]

LOL
yes

[manic rune]

it doesnt seem like theres any error for me

😭

[willow void]

i just get an error every time i boot up the game

[manic rune]

show me your joker's full code rn

[willow void]

mkay

SMODS.Joker {
    key = 'alexandria',
    loc_txt = {
        name = 'Alexandria',
        text = {
            "{C:green}#1# in #2#{} chance for each",
            "scored face card to become{C:dark_edition} Negative{}"
        }
    },
    config = { extra = { odds = 3} },
    rarity = 4,
    atlas = 'Jokers',
    unlocked = true, 
    discovered = true, 
    blueprint_compat = true, 
    eternal_compat = true,
    perishable_compat = false,
    pos = { x = 1, y = 0 },
    soul_pos = { x = 1, y = 1 },
    cost = 20,
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { G.GAME.probabilities.normal , card.ability.extra.odds } }
    end,

    if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play then
        if pseudorandom('alexandria') < G.GAME.probabilities.normal / card.ability.extra.odds then
           if context.other_card:is_face() then 
              context.other_card:set_edition("e_negative", nil, true) 
              return {
                 message = localize('k_:3!'),
                 colour = G.C.MONEY,
                 card = card
              } 
           end
        end
     end
}

[manic rune]

you

you forgot calculate

💔

[willow void]

FUCK

i copied over it

[heady siren]

B r u h

[manic rune]

😭

[willow void]

LOOK i had it there before and then i copied over yours

sorry LOL

[manic rune]

its fine its fine

[willow void]

another error?????

[manic rune]

-# :3

[manic rune]

gah

show me your joker's code again 💔

[willow void]

SMODS.Joker {
    key = 'alexandria',
    loc_txt = {
        name = 'Alexandria',
        text = {
            "{C:green}#1# in #2#{} chance for each",
            "scored face card to become{C:dark_edition} Negative{}"
        }
    },
    config = { extra = { odds = 3} },
    rarity = 4,
    atlas = 'Jokers',
    unlocked = true, 
    discovered = true, 
    blueprint_compat = true, 
    eternal_compat = true,
    perishable_compat = false,
    pos = { x = 1, y = 0 },
    soul_pos = { x = 1, y = 1 },
    cost = 20,
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { G.GAME.probabilities.normal , card.ability.extra.odds } }
    end,

    calculate = function(self, card, context)
    if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play then
        if pseudorandom('alexandria') < G.GAME.probabilities.normal / card.ability.extra.odds then
           if context.other_card:is_face() then 
              context.other_card:set_edition("e_negative", nil, true) 
              return {
                 message = localize('k_:3!'),
                 colour = G.C.MONEY,
                 card = card
              } 
           end
        end
    end
}```

[manic rune]

you are missing an end

[willow void]

WHU

[willow void]

i gotcha

im just confused as to how im so bad at copy pasting

also, the joker displays "ERROR" instead of my text

should i just have plain text in there instead of a function?

[manic rune]

the function is fine, i think having ":3" in there kinda fucks it up

[willow void]

daaaamn

lemme see

[manic rune]

change ur localization key to just text, maybe it will work

like

'k_ohmygawd'

[narrow iron]

thats just the key to the spot in the language file right?

it can still say ':3'

just have a different key

[manic rune]

☝️

it is not forbidden to silly

[narrow iron]

ol reliable divide by zero error

[manic rune]

0/0 for the funni

[willow void]

still error

[manic rune]

did u change the key in your localization file

[narrow iron]

this does have actualy reason behind it tho lol

im printing a table and to make it only print once im just making it crash immediately afterwards

[manic rune]

you know

you can just use break or smt

[narrow iron]

its in the beginning of the can_use function

so it'll just be run repeatedly

[manic rune]

ah, icic

[narrow iron]

uhh

it didnt crash

what

[willow void]

the what

[manic rune]

oh

i see

put message = ":3" instead then

[willow void]

sorry i am just a baby balatro modder (just born)

LOL

[manic rune]

i thought you had a localization file already

😭

[willow void]

no

[manic rune]

gah

yeah, do what i said above

and it should run now

[willow void]

it should and does!

[narrow iron]

plan b

[manic rune]

💔

[narrow iron]

i just need to know where the beginning of this table is

[manic rune]

wat r u tryin to achieve here

[narrow iron]

i want to see if i can figure out if a card is in the consumable slot with card.area in the can_use function

so i want to read the card.area table

so i need to know where it starts

[manic rune]

you can just

#G.consumeables.cards

[narrow iron]

nope

[manic rune]

which will print out how many cards there are in the consumeable area, no?

[narrow iron]

^

im basically making custom emperor

[manic rune]

ah ic

local cardInArea = nil
for _,v in ipairs(G.consumeables.cards) do
  if v == card then cardInArea = true break end
end

[narrow iron]

wouldnt that return true if i have a copy of the card in my consumable area?

[manic rune]

no

it needs to be the exact card you are selecting

[narrow iron]

the objects are still unique?

oh nice

thanks!

[manic rune]

if you want it to check for copies then you should check for their keys instead

[native zinc]

got this lad workin

[manic rune]

card.config.center.key

[narrow iron]

yea idc about copies

[manic rune]

mhm, just saying so that you know how to in the future :D

[narrow iron]

mainly just so it doesnt break when showman is there

[narrow iron]

yep, thanks!

[manic rune]

what about A, 3, 5, 7 and 9 tho

[native zinc]

...

it's a bit shift

lmao

it rounds down

(so it destroys aces)

[narrow iron]

may be worth putting that in the description

[narrow iron]

reduced to atoms

[native zinc]

i think it would be funny if i didn't

because it is what it says on the tin

1000 (8)
0100 (4)
0010 (2)

0001 (A)

0000 (uh ohj)

[narrow iron]

well i just meant abt it rounding down, the aces thing should be discovered not told

[native zinc]

bitshifts works by just ignoring the right digit and replacing the left digit with 0

so 0101 (5) -> 0010 (2)

i want to show this behaviour in the card art

so i think it's fineeee

[heady siren]

I'm imagining something like just a binary number with an arrow going from a bit on the left to a bit on the right

[narrow iron]

im so close to being done here, but for some reason its returning false while its in a booster pack

can_use = function(self, card)
  local cardInArea = nil
  for _,v in ipairs(G.consumeables.cards) do
    if v == card then cardInArea = true break end
  end
  if cardInArea then
    if #G.consumeables.cards + G.GAME.consumeable_buffer + self.config.extra.num_potions - 1 <= G.consumeables.config.card_limit then
      return true
    end
  else
    if #G.consumeables.cards + G.GAME.consumeable_buffer + self.config.extra.num_potions <= G.consumeables.config.card_limit then
      return true
    end
  end
  return false
end,

self.config.extra.num_potions is just the number of consumables its making

i never reset the consumable buffer, oops

no...?

for some reason the consumable buffer is equal to 3

and wont change

let me try a new run

yea that fixed it

[heady siren]

Good example of the rng legitimately just hating me, I just died on round 1 because the game absolutely refused to give me the card needed to complete a full house

[lethal ridge]

@tall wharf

Are u okay

The eathquake

[heady siren]

In all discards and all hands

[manic rune]

how do i refer to this

for juice_up

and as a target for calculate_effect and allat

[plain apex]

something tells me i absolutely didn't do this right

[rain slate]

isn't there like

hold up

[zealous glen]

I think if you're using the new calculate method for Blinds, you can just return {juice_up = …}

[rain slate]

SMODS.juice_up_blind()

[zealous glen]

or whatever the key was

[rain slate]

try that

[zealous glen]

but you don't need to do it manually

SMODS does it automatically AFAIK

[manic rune]

mhm, i know that

but is there a way to not use return for that?

[zealous glen]

maybe this

[manic rune]

what about a message

not return

gahgakd

[manic rune]

god my brain is bring fried

[rain slate]

function SMODS.juice_up_blind()
    local ui_elem = G.HUD_blind:get_UIE_by_ID('HUD_blind_debuff')
    for _, v in ipairs(ui_elem.children) do
        v.children[1]:juice_up(0.3, 0)
    end
    G.GAME.blind:juice_up()
end

[hexed heath]

is there a calculate phase or a hook for when after the deck is shuffled?

[heady siren]

I think you can refer to the blind with G.GAME.blind and that works with :juice_up()

[rain slate]

yeah

[tall wharf]

I'm ok thanks for asking you too

[manic rune]

this is what i wanted to figure out, and it seems G.GAME.blind is the answer, thanks everyone

-# power went out for 3s, so my wifi went down

oh and uh, this too :3

[lethal ridge]

that earthquake was scary

[tall wharf]

yep it sure was

i love how everyone on Twitter was mentioning how they thought they were just dizzy

[lethal ridge]

i was at school

[lethal ridge]

haha same

[tall wharf]

me too

[manic rune]

phase 2

[rain slate]

why tf are there elements in balatro

[manic rune]

because jokers in my mod have elements

:3

[rain slate]

are you making balatro rpg

[manic rune]

-# and equipments, status effects, buffs, debuffs and such

[manic rune]

iffff you know about honkai star rail, then its a lot easier to explain

but basically, yes

[rain slate]

so it's like genshin impact

[manic rune]

thats a close comparison

[rain slate]

even more gambling

i love it

[tired skiff]

how do i make it so that it also shows chips cause i dont know how to add the chips value and i also have thing to scale the chips

[manic rune]

i added gacha to hsr too

:3

like, you dont just get jokers from shop now

you need to roll for it

wait lemme show u

[rain slate]

now we just need to add gacha to balatro as well

[lyric blade]

What the hell

That's actually crazy and I kinda love it

[manic rune]

-# this gotta be like the 5th time im flexing those in modding-dev now

[tired skiff]

hey belis

[manic rune]

hii

[tired skiff]

what does the X#1# mean?

im new to modding and im just trying to learn :3

[manic rune]

it takes the var corresponding to that order in loc_vars, and put it in there

[heady siren]

#1# is the first variable in the loc_vars table, it's inserted into the text

[manic rune]

im bad at explaining :3

[heady siren]

#2# would be the second one, #3# would the third one, etc...

[tired skiff]

so would this be #1

[heady siren]

And if you're wondering C: is for the text color, and X: is for the background color

[heady siren]

#1#, it has the symbol on both sides, but yes

[tired skiff]

so for 2 would i do another return under the return

[heady siren]

No, you would add a second variable inside the vars table

[zealous glen]

Oh I didn't realize you were in the region. Good to hear that you're ok

[heady siren]

So if you wanted a #1#, #2#, and #3# variable, you'd put return {vars = {variable1 = thing, variable2 = thing, variable3 = thing}}

[tall wharf]

Bangkok is affected

[zealous glen]

correction, no variable =

[heady siren]

Wait yeah I'm dumb

That's for config

[tall wharf]

I'm fine

[heady siren]

For loc_vars you just put in the variable name, and add card/center.ability.extra. before it

[heady siren]

No

[tired skiff]

i know im stupid im sorry :<

[zealous glen]

To be honest I thought you were in Vietnam

[heady siren]

You put the center.ability.extra.chips as a second variable inside the already existing vars table

[tall wharf]

everyone felt as if they were lightheaded

[heady siren]

So it'd be return {vars = {center.ability.extra.Xmult, center.ability.extra.chips}}

Also notice how it's underlined in red, because that's incorrect formatting

[heady siren]

No

[tired skiff]

oh comma

not more {}

[heady siren]

It's a table, every entry in the table is separated by a comma, not a completely separate set of curly brackets

[tired skiff]

ok

[heady siren]

The curly brackets make it a table

I honestly think it'd be a good idea for you to just read up on how lua works so you get the actual formatting / syntax of it down

[tired skiff]

look it took me 3 attempts but i think i got it

[heady siren]

center.ability.extra.chips

[tired skiff]

close enough :3

[heady siren]

You also need to put chips = number into the same place as Xmult in the extra table right above loc_vars

[tired skiff]

i have

[heady siren]

Can you please send a screenshot of that, I am legitimately not convinced it will be accurate

[tired skiff]

:p

[heady siren]

Okay, strange indenting, but that will work

[tired skiff]

im so smort

😭

[rain slate]

fuck my stupid baka life

[heady siren]

Wait, take a screenshot of the area directly below that please

[rain slate]

how exactly am I supposed to make legendary jokers appear in shop

[rain slate]

I've tried so hard

😭

[heady siren]

You've always got my horrible method

[rain slate]

yeah that won't work

I mean I haven't tried it but I don't like it so I'm not doing it that way

[heady siren]

Okay, that's working, good, for a split second I thought the loc_vars text was a closing square bracket

[heady siren]

Fair enough, always an option worst case scenario though

[native zinc]

vanilla dictates legendary jokers only come from Soul so what i usually do is just make a consumable that spawns my legendaries

[tired skiff]

no somone taught me to end a function with a return

everytime i fail i learn and therfor evolve

[rain slate]

I'm pretty sure yours did something subtly different to putting them in the shop pool

[tired skiff]

its a slow proscess but it works (sometimes)

[rain slate]

and I wish to undictate that

[heady siren]

You end events with returns you end functions with end

[tired skiff]

and to be fair i have only been learning lua for about a total of 3hours

and a hour of that was during a math exam

[heady siren]

You could make Gorr give you a tag that spawns legendary jokers in the shop, just a straight rip of the vanilla tag with a different rarity pool

[tired skiff]

(i passed dw)

[rain slate]

but the code is unbelievably cryptic and I have no fucking idea what does what

[rain slate]

I'm not making them forcibly appear, I just want them to be in the pool with their own weight

like they can appear but it's not a guarantee

[native zinc]

you might wanna make a custom rarity?

[heady siren]

If you don't wanna take any shortcuts at all and want to make it 100% the way you want it you might not get what you want

[rain slate]

... it's supposed to be legendaries not a custom rarity

like perkeo and shit

[heady siren]

Also that looks pretty damn cool, only issue I have is that it conflicts with the Balatro color scheme pretty badly and on a big part of the screen consistently

[tired skiff]

ahh it works

it says how many chips

im so smart

gotta be in the top 10 billion smartest people

🫡

[rain slate]

maybe even top 8 billion

[tired skiff]

ehh i wouldnt go that far

[manic rune]

will my boss blind be fun to fight against i wonder

[native zinc]

yeah the violent lime is pretty bad

AUGH

[heady siren]

I'd make it lean more toward olive and darken the background color a bit

[heady siren]

ACID TRIP UPON YE

[tired skiff]

once again i am back to ask more dumb questions

today i will be asking about colours

[native zinc]

whoaa...

[tired skiff]

so X:mult makes background red but what makes it blue :3

[native zinc]

here

[tired skiff]

<3 u

holy

[heady siren]

You can use blue or chips

[native zinc]

yeah

[heady siren]

The G.C colors are used for message backgrounds and visual effects

[native zinc]

so {C:chips}text here adlskjfhasldkjffhkja{}

[heady siren]

{} is used to reset to the default color

[native zinc]

its like open bracket close bracket

ooh

[heady siren]

Negative always looks nice

Like, I feel like you can't make a bad looking negative card

Also, off-topic, but thank god lua actually tells you where the hell your code stops working
-# Most of the time

[native zinc]

yeah

line too!

less assaulty

(ignore the bottom right nightmare that one's atrocious on purpose [it is referencing a horrible ad])

[heady siren]

It still doesn't look that bad

[tired skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[native zinc]

the violent magenta kinda pains me

[rain slate]

YEAH BUDDY

[heady siren]

I really like the flat colored minimally shaded object jokers

[rain slate]

ok so basically that works

[native zinc]

polychrome is interesting

[heady siren]

✋🤚

[native zinc]

some of these negative suck imo

[tired skiff]

i cant figure out adding another colour so i think its time for bed and tomorow i will wake up and continue to slam my head against a wall

:3

[rain slate]

This is how I've added legendaries to the shop pool ```toml

Add Legendary to Joker ObjectType

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = '''=[SMODS _ "src/game_object.lua"]'''
pattern = '''
{ key = "Common" },
{ key = "Uncommon" },
{ key = "Rare" },
'''
position = "after"
payload = '''{ key = "Legendary" }, '''
match_indent = true
times = 1
lua
add_to_deck = function (self, card, from_debuff)
SMODS.ObjectTypes["Joker"].rarities[4].weight = 50 -- temp value just to see if it works
end,
remove_from_deck = function (self, card, from_debuff)
SMODS.ObjectTypes["Joker"].rarities[4].weight = 0
end

[heady siren]

Very nice, I have no idea what any of that means

[rain slate]

although technically this is wherever jokers go

so you could pull a perkeo from a judgment if you're really lucky

unless judgment has some restrictions I'm not aware of

[heady siren]

Also, balance question: I have a joker that destroys all cards played in first hand, but stores them inside the joker, and puts them into your hand all at once when you sell it, and they gain bonus chips while they're stored, is 10 extra chips per hand played while stored too much?

[rain slate]

I actually feel like it's kinda weak

[heady siren]

If you consume like, 5 hands worth of cards, 25 cards, the first 5 cards you stored would have +50 extra chips

[tired skiff]

nah cause you get to remove cards + when you get them back they are all scalling more thatn if you had 2 hikers

if i am reading correct

cause if you have say 5 hands

2 blinds is all those cards +100 chips

[heady siren]

It adds 10 chips every time you play a hand, not just whenever you consume cards

[tired skiff]

i know

[heady siren]

I'm just clarifying

[tired skiff]

honestly i would call the joker the bank and have the amount of chips it adds equil to the rate of inflation

[heady siren]

I called it the Joker of Holding

[tired skiff]

or intrest rates

[tired skiff]

is that a dnd refrence

[rain slate]

oh I think I misinterpreted

permanent chips?

[heady siren]

I wanted to add an alternate method of getting to naneinf, because you could consume your entire deck, and then draw your entire deck at once

[heady siren]

Yeah, like Hiker

[slender bay]

Trying to get it to destroy scored cards, and it does destroy them but also doesn't?

[rain slate]

I feel like you're not getting to naneinf easily with this though

[heady siren]

Add remove = true to a return table

And put context.destroy_cards in the if statement

[rain slate]

mainly cuz it's chips and not mult, but also cuz you still gotta get through the blinds so consuming your entire deck isn't too viable

[heady siren]

Not the best method, an alternate method

If you've already turned the majority of your deck into like, steel red seal kings for Baron, you can start consuming them to prepare for naneinf

No Perkeo + Cryptid or Burgler + Serpent needed

Just the Joker of Holding

[native zinc]

oh hoh ho

[hushed field]

I suspect that it'll be a help in early antes, but the chips seem negligible compared to the deck fixing potential

[modern kindle]

Good schmorning chat

[hushed field]

What's up Dillster

[modern kindle]

Ice my goat

[native zinc]

also

[rain slate]

what's the card area for shop cards?

[native zinc]

help

[modern kindle]

G.shop_jokers i think?

[rain slate]

maybe ```lua
local playing_cards_created = {}

for i = 1, 30, 1 do
-- ...
playing_cards_created[#playing_cards_created + 1] = true
end

[native zinc]

wdy want to do

[rain slate]

and then put that in the return table

[heady siren]

It's the card you find later in your run that allows you to go further beyond

[native zinc]

im pretty sure i'm supposed to return all the added cards into playing_cards_added

[hushed field]

I think generally the chips aren't going to be very useful, so I wouldn't worry about them being unbalanced

[native zinc]

but DNA just does TRUE so...

[hushed field]

Have you implemented it yet?

[gilded blaze]

is this the correct way to init Talisman compat

[manic rune]

god

i think

[modern kindle]

Yea considering your deck let's you play all of 10 5 card hands the chip gain isn't really that great

[manic rune]

i mightve did some evil shenanigans for my boss blind

:3

[modern kindle]

Bepis!

[manic rune]

hi dillyyy

[modern kindle]

Hello :)

[manic rune]

https://streamable.com/tvn45a

it halves your score after everything is calculated

:3

[heady siren]

Oh boy

[heady siren]

I got a really stupid idea: What if it adds the base chips of all scored cards to the currently stored cards for each hand?

[manic rune]

charging up

-# its still bad ngl

[manic rune]

even when a card gives 500 chips every time its scored

its still bad ;sob

[modern kindle]

Give it xchips and now we're talkin

[manic rune]

fr

https://streamable.com/51c5px

is this evil

[modern kindle]

Haven't watched yet but I'll say yea

[manic rune]

each card in hand has 50% to turn into glass (no steel kings for u)

[modern kindle]

Alright I've watched and what the heck

[forest ivy]

is there any website to download sprite from sheet

[manic rune]

AND destroy all glass cards in hand

:3

and this is not the last phase yet

hehe

i will give the player every played card back into the deck

at phase 3

-# that is if you still have any

[rain slate]

this is boutta be devious if it works

[crisp coral]

is your mod's gimmick every card name starts with a B

[modern kindle]

Myst hates the letter B confirmed

[hushed field]

Byst

[manic rune]

is this real chat

[modern kindle]

Is anything ever truly real

[crisp coral]

this is one of the "i like pancakes so you hate waffles" moment of all time

[next timber]

finally.. cryptid: 🅱️ edition

oh shit forgot to turn off ping my bad

[native zinc]

yes

[modern kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[native zinc]

wow

[crisp coral]

wow

[native zinc]

man discord really needs to add a "default: no reply ping" option

[manic rune]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-cat-meme-gif-13427750725771336674

myst whenever they r pinged:

[hushed field]

Btw, I don't know if you've implemented it already, Kàeda, but if you want, I can send you the code for Kino's abduction mechanic, because maybe the card indicator might be useful for it!

[modern kindle]

I tapped the no ping button so hopefully it worked :)

[crisp coral]

it worked

good job

[manic rune]

only phase 3 left

[native zinc]

yeah unfortunately it's not just the jokers that start with b

[next timber]

discord should really let users decide what the default is when other people try to ping them, would solve so many issues

[manic rune]

then im also pushing this one hell of a boss to my mod

[modern kindle]

Bepis when can I commission you to make me some blinds with a firm handshake

[manic rune]

can we have a bepis joker :3

[crisp coral]

i should have mod commissions frfr

[manic rune]

im hard-carried by #1339575571377557557 ngl 💔

[modern kindle]

Yea I know

Blind expander is so daunting for me as I told you

[manic rune]

i stiliatlsmtlmatilmom ;3;3;3;3

[crisp coral]

its basically "i made this and now i'm forcing this on you"

[native zinc]

i can't tell if you mean the undertale error message, the misspelling of pepsi, or the other thing

[spring lantern]

how do i properly get the localized name of an enhancement? tried localize(key) but that returns ERROR

[next timber]

blind that summons itself forever until you score the exact amount of chips

[manic rune]

its my name lel

[crisp coral]

🪺

[modern kindle]

It's alright I'll just comm you to port expander specifically to my mod so i don't have to require it 😎

[hushed field]

I should break apart Kino and see if there's anything there that I can set up to be an API mod, because surely at this point I've accidentally set up some systems that are useful for others

[crisp coral]

use localize with set Enhanced

[hushed field]

Maybe once I get the localization for quests working, I guess

[modern kindle]

Quests would be cool to implement

[heady siren]

abduction mechanic?

[manic rune]

would anyone want an API made for making RPG systems

[native zinc]

the b in Bountiful stands for balanced (hopefully)

[manic rune]

🤔

[crisp coral]

kid named copying it over and requiring it if blindexpander isn't loaded yet

[native zinc]

this is also true for the b in Cryptid

[maiden river]

Balatro: the way home

[modern kindle]

I didn't think it was allowed to just copy it and include it and didn't want to step on ur toes
That's smth we can do?
I assume we just leave you credit n shit

[manic rune]

n mentioned

[next timber]

i have decided that all the mods i was going to make seperately (save for Imaginarium because it's essentially gonna have to be a complete overhaul) are just gonna be crammed into the same mod

[hushed field]

Kino's got a mechanic in which certain jokers move cards to a separate card area and store those in the joker, and return the cards with an addition. There were some issues I kept running into when it came to visually having everything work, so unless you already solved it yourself, it might be a good thing as an example

[crisp coral]

the prerequisite is asking me

[heady siren]

I literally just have the cards stored in a table variable on the joker

[hushed field]

does that survive a save/load?

[modern kindle]

Well, do you mind if I gain some notion of intelligence including blind expander into my mod leaving you credit on the page?

[manic rune]

actually

how do i check if a mod is installed

[heady siren]

I think so, it's not referencing cards that already exist, it destroys the cards themselves, it just stores the information of the card to create a new card later

[spring lantern]

what have i done

[manic rune]

maybe i should just port blindexpander's code over to my mod too

and put a bigass billboard in the main menu

crediting myst :3

[heady siren]

Currently table: 0x3df43690

[next timber]

if anyone here has made a mod that adds more suits, how do you actually implement them? i dont mean how do you make them, i mean like. how do you make it so the player can actually get them, from a game design perspective

[crisp coral]

sure

[next timber]

extra deck? overhaul every deck to include it?

[crisp coral]

add blindexpander as a provide for your mod probably idk

[modern kindle]

I assume you can make them unlock through beating some stakes or smth

[manic rune]

hmmmmmmm

[hushed field]

ahh, yeah, that'd work as well of course. I opted for moving the cards just to store things to be sure that if a mod adds anything I didn't account for, it doesn't get deleted

but with smods handling card upgrades of any kind now, that's also less of a problem

[manic rune]

what i mean by this is like:

• if blindexpander (the separate mod) and lcorp (THE mod) arent installed, dont load the file with blindexpander's code
• else, loads

[heady siren]

If it exists in the card data, it gets stored

[crisp coral]

Bunco had them unlocked by playing a Spectrum using a Wild Card and base suits

[hushed field]

that's a very good point. I'm happy with the way I've set up abduction now, because it allows me to copy the abilities of jokers too, and do other weird things, but I think you've set up a smarter solution that is probably less work to set up without breaking everything, hahaha

[spring lantern]

i think im stupid i genuinely can't figure out how to do this properly

[tall wharf]

we are feeling earthquake with this one

development resumes today when i feel less tired

[heady siren]

I also want the cards to be completely inert while inside of the joker

[spring lantern]

cos u make my earfquake

[next timber]

i might make a "Petrification" card or smth that converts every card of a random/selected suit to the modded Snakes suit

[tall wharf]

-# (there was an earthquake in Myanmar that reached Bangkok)

[spring lantern]

-# oh

[modern kindle]

hi aiko

[tall wharf]

-# being serious btw

[spring lantern]

-# mb gang

[hushed field]

oh damn, aiko, I was just reading about it in the news. Glad you're not closer to the center of it!

[tall wharf]

-# at least I'm fine

[spring lantern]

-# ye glad ur safe c:

[tall wharf]

-# my family and friends seems fine

-# and yes i did check on them

[hushed field]

how are you dealing with the visuals, btw? I had real issues trying to set that up, so I'm curious how you solved it. 90% you did it in a more efficient way than I, so in that case I'll beg to steal your code 😛

[hushed field]

I think Bunco adds some? And that's with tarots mainly, iirc

[next timber]

also how do you guys deal with localisation? because right now i put in the loc_txt, let it generate the dump file, and then copy that over to the en-us file and remove the loc_txt lol

[hushed field]

I just write in the localization file directly

I've never used loc_txt, in that regard

[spring lantern]

what the fuck is this

[rose dragon]

a table

[manic rune]

ui table

[spring lantern]

i know that much

[crisp coral]

uibox my beloathed

fucking hate ui

[manic rune]

^ the person who made blind btw

[spring lantern]

why did i get a uibox when trying to get the name of an enhancement

[hushed field]

i feel fundamental anxiety about the universe when one of the people I've categorized as 'real good at UI' says things like these, haha

[manic rune]

we are fucked if eremel ever says he hates ui

[crisp coral]

me? good at ui? never!!

[spring lantern]

we are fucked if eremel says he hates anything

[crisp coral]

aiko is good at css they should be also good at ui

[manic rune]

fr...

[hushed field]

Aiko's also in that category

[heady siren]

I'll upload a video

[hushed field]

oooh thanks! I'm really curious! 😄

[manic rune]

what if i

[zealous glen]

Check out Bunco, although personally I don't find their approach very vanilla

[manic rune]

make it so it wipes out HALF of your deck

[hushed field]

I guess I'll see it as well once your mod's out there ot be played with, haha

[zealous glen]

Paperback does it too

[hushed field]

Thanos blind

[manic rune]

2/3 of your deck it is

[modern kindle]

hi vic

[zealous glen]

Hello dilly

How are you?

[crisp coral]

Bunco strayed away from being vanilla a long time ago

but that makes the mod fresh

[modern kindle]

i am a wee bit tired but i am well, how are you?

[zealous glen]

I think Firch would disagree

[heady siren]

Debuff all even cards or odd cards, swap which one is debuffed after each hand played [=

[zealous glen]

could be better

[modern kindle]

i am sorry to hear this, i hope you feel grand soon

[lament agate]

is it unethical to hide mod badges

[hushed field]

That's actually such a banger idea that I'd love to steal it and put this in Kino, haha

[zealous glen]

thanks

[zealous glen]

no

[tall wharf]

WHAT BLIND

[zealous glen]

it is illegal though, straight to clown jail with you

[manic rune]

:3

what blind

[lament agate]

well you see, that's unethical

[tall wharf]

is my mod vanilla

[modern kindle]

yea

[crisp coral]

what

[zealous glen]

but it's not illegal

[hushed field]

hands up in the air and drop your honky horn

[tall wharf]

belis told me you added a new blind

[lament agate]

you never catch me alive

[modern kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/goose-honk-inhale-inhales-untitled-gif-16237480

[crisp coral]

what

[humble girder]

what

[lament agate]

what

[modern kindle]

what

[zealous glen]

flavors.vanilla = flavors.plutonium

Yes

[tall wharf]

did you not add a new blind to your mod

[manic rune]

is the third effect necessary

what blind are you talking about aiko

[lament agate]

@manic rune i know how to mod joker in now

[zealous glen]

when does it trigger

[manic rune]

nice, congrats!!

[crisp coral]

the Gaslight is insane

[tall wharf]

that one she told me about

[tall wharf]

what is this

[hushed field]

Today list for today is figuring out how the fuck I make a nice and dynamic localization method for randomly generated quests, or set up the system to make arbitrary pools for joker generation. I'm not sure I've solved either. Which one do I choose?

[zealous glen]

Gaslighting gatekeeping girlbossing

[manic rune]

after playing 5 hands + discards in total

:3

[zealous glen]

Destroying cards and the deck is a benefit

I don't understand what the score reduction does exactly

but it's the only negative part

[manic rune]

https://streamable.com/tvn45a

smt like this

[crisp coral]

G.localization.misc.v_dictionary allows for single-line variable replacing, otherwise you might want to make a new set in G.localization.descriptions

[manic rune]

but it reduces score to 0 instead

[tall wharf]

have i been remembering wrong this whole time

[manic rune]

-# i think its pretty much a loss if you trigger that effect

[zealous glen]

I wonder if my mod is compatible with Blindexpander

[crisp coral]

for arbitary joker pools, make fuctions that are similar to get_current_pool() and hook it to call your custom function

[tall wharf]

myst hello!!!

[crisp coral]

hi aiko did you survive

[zealous glen]

Because I decided not to use it since I had already copied some functionality and added some on top

[tall wharf]

I'm not dead

[crisp coral]

glad to hear

[manic rune]

hows the wifi in the afterlife aiko

[zealous glen]

myst and aiko talking look like a short person talking to a tall person

[hushed field]

yeah, i might need to either do clever stitching things together, or make a new set, because quest descriptions are stacking variables quite a bit. The other option is to go for broader quest descriptions as a base, so I need to do less stitching, but just have a lot more base descriptions

[tall wharf]

they have alarmo

[zealous glen]

F

[tall wharf]

photo taken before the earthquake

[native zinc]

maybe this is too op

[spring lantern]

fucking finally

[native zinc]

ooh

[hushed field]

i've set this part up. The main issue I'm having is storing a pool longterm so that I can make forced orders. But I'm thinking now I can set up a global table that just stores the next card it needs to spawn, and check if there's anything in there, and otherwise just move on

[crisp coral]

either way you'll still need G.localization.descriptions for quick and easy multi-line support

[crisp coral]

holy tarot looping

[hushed field]

Do you know some of any mods that incorporate this? Does lobcorp do it? I'm sure I'll figure it out without an example, but I think it'll save me an hour if I can check somewhere 😛

thanks for the help btw, myst, it's appreciated ❤️

[crisp coral]

lobcorp does not, sorry

[manic rune]

wtf

[heady siren]

@hushed field Here's the consuming sequence

[zealous glen]

Isn't that where Jokers and other descriptions are?

[hushed field]

how is a man supposed to mod if he cannot steal the exact functionality from better modders???

[zealous glen]

also I use the quips localization table for Joker messages

[heady siren]

And here's the releasing process

[manic rune]

oh, i think

[crisp coral]

i think it might be just stitching two UIBox returns from localize into one generate_UI return

[manic rune]

i added autoline splicing to the sticker which shows debuffs/buffs in my mod

[hushed field]

yeah, they are. I'm just trying to figure out how I go about stacking elements from there

[zealous glen]

Huh someone else doing Consuming

[manic rune]

-# probably not what ur looking for tho

[zealous glen]

and I think it's exactly the same mechanic, minus other stats

[hushed field]

oh, are you even using a customized shader? I love the look of that.

[heady siren]

Nope, just start_dissolve and start_materialize with a custom color

I have no idea how to do shaders

[hushed field]

i completely forgot you can pass colours to them

[crisp coral]

@hushed field actually it might be easier than I thought

[stark geode]

Not my fault it the closet thing to documentation I can get

[zealous glen]

A Joker that consumes

[crisp coral]

just pass nodes = table as an argument and it'll append the localization into the nodes table

[manic rune]

wtf is that art victin

💔

[crisp coral]

and you can return the nodes after adding a few localizes

[humble girder]

so, the thing you have to remember about this is that partial localization and assembling will just not work; even within germanic languages there can be a significant difference between the order of components within a sentence

[zealous glen]

Reference to Goya's "Saturn Devouring His Son"

[stark geode]

Feel like the name is to long

[humble girder]

you either drop localization or make templates for each different quest you implement

[heady siren]

I also just added custom sounds for the joker

[humble girder]

i considered this very same problem with baliatro bonus objectives

[heady siren]

bag_noises.ogg

[primal robin]

Do patches like ```
[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = '=[SMODS _ "src/game_object.lua"]'

[midnight coyote]

i can’t localize for shit so i just hope they can speak english

[zealous glen]

I think they should but Idk the proper formatting

[spring lantern]

no clue why it says ERROR before using the devil but hey at least it does the thing

[humble girder]

they work and that is the correct formatting

[next timber]

man representing a concept like "snake" in a 11x11 solid colour suit icon is kinda hard

[humble girder]

here is an example SMODS patch that i do and know works

## Calculate goals on individual playing card scoring.
[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = '=[SMODS _ "src/utils.lua"]'
pattern = 'if next(effects) then'
position = 'before'
match_indent = true
payload = '''
if BALIATRO.feature_flags.loot then
    BALIATRO.calculate_goal_context(context)
end
'''

[next timber]

wow

[zealous glen]

Also yesterday I reimplemented a "play again" mechanic #1343670935122870342 message

[zealous glen]

me and worm blind

[hushed field]

I'm fully aware, haha (not to brag but I have a degree in linguistics after all 😛 ) But my current approach is that I'm making a mod that is not being translated as of now, so it's mainly just about using the localizatin file because that's where I keep text, more so than actually allowing for localization to work. Systems like this need a whole in-between layer between the text and the code to account for grammatical structures if you're going for generated text that can be localized, and that's at the moment a step I'm not really keen on developing, haha

[zealous glen]

just hide a tiny clone of ice inside each copy of the mod so they can translate in real time

[humble girder]

you're not translating it, anyone playing it may contribute a localization and anything preventing proper translation will discourage that

[shell timber]

how random are the quests going to be?

[humble girder]

this is kind of why i'm saying, your quests won't be fully random, they're still probably going to follow a general structure (fixed set of goals), each goal can have its own full, normal localization template

then they can just localize{} into the same desc_nodes

what i'm saying is: building blocks can be treated as GameObjects that each can individually localize

and just build up from the bricks

[hushed field]

yeah, I know, I know. It's more so that I'm developing this mod with mostly myself in mind, rather than taking a professional and player-oriented approach. But you're fully right in that sense, of course. But having that voice that tells me to account for it be externalized by someone else is definitely a more convincing argument to actually set it up properly, so I'll do that instead

[heady siren]

So now my 3 rare jokers have custom sounds, and also an uncommon joker that has Wii Sports sounds, do you think custom sounds are too much for Balatro, or should I try to add as many as I can to make my jokers more unique?

[shell timber]

for a vanilla like mod, no

for a mod in general, sure

[hushed field]

Because it makes it quite obvious that I'm using that logic on my end just as an excuse not to have to make things that seem difficult 😛

[hushed field]

It'd run into the same problem because I only speak european languages 😛

[heady siren]

I wanna have an in-between of vanilla and Cryptid, not quite as faithful to the original game, but also not completely batshit insane and off-model by default

[zealous glen]

Try learning an American language like Portuguese, Spanish, or English

[hushed field]

hahaha

[humble girder]

...

in hindsight i probably should've read the context but i got mildly triggered for a second, well done

[zealous glen]

[spring lantern]

epicly trolled

[zealous glen]

You’re right I forgot French