💻・modding-dev

[manic rune]

wtf

people out here be sacrificing half of their brain and family for some good-looking ui

this individual here turns their ui to watermelon instead

[paper zealot]

I suspect you want

for key, _ in pairs(G.C) do
    G.C[key] = { 0.64, 0.93, 0.34, 1 }
end

[manic rune]

😭

[bronze ocean]

sadly changing the values of G.C does not make the whole game green

[bronze ocean]

:)

[manic rune]

is this a fair passive

[bronze ocean]

ah yes

[manic rune]

.

why

[paper zealot]

You brought this on yourself. You don't deserve to play the game anymore

[bronze ocean]

what happens if I only have a single card?

[manic rune]

turns into glass AND breaks

[rough cobalt]

This is making me

[manic rune]

can we vote on banning Watanoge from ever stepping in this channel please :3

[bronze ocean]

wait it can get worse

[manic rune]

who hurt you

💔

[bronze ocean]

I think I want

for key, value in pairs(G.C) do
    if type(value) == "table" then
        for sub_key, _ in pairs(value) do
            value[sub_key] = {0.7578125, 0.97265625, 0.4375, 1}
        end
    else
        G.C[key] = {0.7578125, 0.97265625, 0.4375, 1}
    end
end```

[bronze ocean]

alphabetical or date sort?

[rough cobalt]

File type

[paper zealot]

I can't believe we've done this

[bronze ocean]

update: it crashed so hard I didn't even get the green screen anymore

[bronze ocean]

WAIT WHY DID IT WORK FOR YOU

WHY AM I UNABLE TO SEE MY OWN MAKING

[paper zealot]

    for key, _ in pairs(G.C) do
        if #G.C[key] == 4 and type(G.C[key][1]) == 'number' then
            G.C[key] = { 0.69, 0.86, 0.36, 1 }
        end
    end

[manic rune]

wtf breeze

😭

[manic rune]

wheres the uhh

[rough cobalt]

NGL this color kinda slaps, but this just isn't right

[manic rune]

mult stored

like, the mult used for the final_scoring_step

[bronze ocean]

turns out I just have a skill issue and need to learn lua

oh fuck yes this is horrible

[paper zealot]

You were on the right track, but colours are also tables, so that would also replace all the child elements with colours instead

[manic rune]

is it hand_mult

[bronze ocean]

oh

[manic rune]

i only see chips

wtf

goa wait its the score

[edgy reef]

GREEN

[tall wharf]

trance if it was good

[lethal ridge]

hello people

[bronze ocean]

is there such thing as padding?

can I add padding to my bg?

also this crashes the game:

            UIBox_button({
                label = "Fuck around",
                colour = { 0.7578125, 0.97265625, 0.4375, 1 },
                func = (function()
                    for key, _ in pairs(G.C) do
                        if #G.C[key] == 4 and type(G.C[key][1]) == 'number' then
                            G.C[key] = { 0.7578125, 0.97265625, 0.4375, 1 }
                        end
                    end
                end)
            }),```

not sure why if the thing does work otuside the button, maybe altering these values after the game begins isn't legal?

[bronze ocean]

it is literally called padding

ok

nice

beautiful

now sleepy time

[rough cobalt]

Where's "find out"?

[bronze ocean]

the idea is that the "find out" is the game now looks like this until restart

[rough cobalt]

Vast improvement

[bronze ocean]

but it crashes when opening the config tab

[tall wharf]

nothing going through my head right now

[forest ivy]

how do u even make outline for planets in aseprite

shift o just doesnt understand what planet is

💔

[paper zealot]

You might need to separate it out into a different layer

[rough cobalt]

Hey, so, I'm looking to make texture pack and I was wondering if I could get any pointers towards resources I could get for coding it.
I was able to find Morry'sIllusion's template and tutorial, but it doesn't go much into depth on the lua side, and I was hoping to change more textures than just the cards.

[daring fern]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1300851004186820690

[tall wharf]

i guess you'll have to use malverk

[paper zealot]

Basic guide to making a Malverk texture pack here
Some example mods you could learn the general idea from:
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1323027321825001604
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1335577520162078763
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1236675603495653416

[tall wharf]

#1338027978935763055

[rough cobalt]

Specifically going to steal your code, thanks (/j)

[small moon]

I've added this to the top of my main file, but context.retrigger_joker and context.retrigger_joker_check both don't do anything

SMODS.current_mod.optional_features = {
    retrigger_joker = true
}

[forest ivy]

now a new topic

how do i do that

[daring fern]

It should be ```lua
SMODS.current_mod.optional_features = function()
return { retrigger_joker = true }
end

[small moon]

Tried that as well

I have a very simple context check where I just loop through the keys and print them to make sure it works:

if context.retrigger_joker_check or context.retrigger_joker then
    for k, v in pairs(context) do
        print(k)
    end
end

Nothing gets printed

Works for other contexts, just not retrigger_joker or retrigger_joker_check

[daring fern]

I think it should be if context.retrigger_joker_check and not context.retrigger_joker

[small moon]

I mean either way the if statement should still go no?

Yeah that doesn't work either :P

[paper zealot]

• Select the planet with the magic wand tool (W)
• Cut the selected pixels (Ctrl + X)
  and
• Paste the selected pixels into a new layer (Ctrl + Shft + V)
  or
• Create new layer (Shift + N)
• Paste into existing layer (Ctrl + V)

[forest ivy]

ty

[paper zealot]

Keeping different objects on different layers is super helpful for keeping things distinct and organised, and making it easier to edit parts

[forest ivy]

ctrl + n creates new sprite not layer 💔

[paper zealot]

Whoops, that should be Shift + N

[forest ivy]

now theres another problem

if im trying to draw a pixel like at y 10 x 10

it teleports to around y 3 x 3

[daring fern]

Are there other jokers?

[paper zealot]

That's really weird, i have no idea what could cause that sorry

[small moon]

Yeah that was the issue, had other jokers before I restarted the game and just glossed over the fact that it saved before I added them and I didn't have them anymore

I feel so dumb LOL

[lethal ridge]

what balatro source code do i read

for calculation context thing

[tall wharf]

😭

[tall wharf]

😭

[gaunt thistle]

😭

[tall wharf]

how do i remove this badge

idk when it happened

is it because my mod did something to the card

[onyx sonnet]

That badge is automatically added to any cards your mod owns

[tall wharf]

as in?

idk how my mod owned this card but alr

[onyx sonnet]

I'm not sure how you did that either

[tall wharf]

i think i know why

local vanillaRanks = {"2","3","4","5","6","7","8","9","10","Jack","Queen","King","Ace"}
local prevRankMap = {"Ace","2","3","4","5","6","7","8","9","10","Jack","Queen","King"}
AKYRS.RanksPrevSet = {}
for j, k in ipairs(vanillaRanks) do
    AKYRS.RanksPrevSet[k] = SMODS.Ranks[k].prev
    local rankIsAlreadyInThere = false
    for i, v in ipairs(AKYRS.RanksPrevSet[k]) do
        if prevRankMap[i] == v then
            rankIsAlreadyInThere = true
        end
    end
    if not rankIsAlreadyInThere then
        SMODS.Rank:take_ownership(k,{
            prev = {
                unpack(AKYRS.RanksPrevSet[k]),
                prevRankMap[j]
            }
        })
    end
end

is there a way to... not?

[gaunt thistle]

patch the hell out of smods

(don't)

[tall wharf]

ok i just set true

to the value

no more :>

[gaunt thistle]

hell yeah

[rose dragon]

set_card_type_badge = function(self, card, badges)
  badges[1] = nil
end,

[tall wharf]

bruh

[zealous glen]

When taking ownership you can choose to do it without displaying a badge

[shell timber]

use silent=true

[tall wharf]

yea i just did 😭

[tall wharf]

_ _

[rose dragon]

​

[gaunt thistle]

​

[zealous glen]

​

[manic rune]

does he know

[zealous glen]

-# I know

-# actually I copy-pasted

[manic rune]

-# I didn't know

[tall wharf]

_ _

[zealous glen]

​

[manic rune]

also, victin, did u check out my boss blind :3

[zealous glen]

No I just woke up

[manic rune]

https://streamable.com/e7cni8

[zealous glen]

Oh with the robot arms

[tall wharf]

_ _

[zealous glen]

I saw you developing it

[tall wharf]

_ _

[rose dragon]

not using a zwsp character is kind of a skill issue

[tall wharf]

_ _

_ _

[manic rune]

i added particles and changed bg color

[tall wharf]

_ _

[tall wharf]

\

pretend i said i don't like white bg

[zealous glen]

I change BG too but I haven’t added particles

[manic rune]

i copied the code from the tarot pack and just slapped it on

my blind's code

https://streamable.com/whnjiz

this one is music :3

[zealous glen]

The music is nice but feels a bit unusual to see in Balatro

[tall wharf]

i mean it is the actual boss song in the game

[zealous glen]

I deduced it

[uncut grail]

thanks!

[versed swan]

love it when crash doesnt give me any useful info. like thanks i can totally work with engine/sprite.lua:98: attempt to index a nil value

[plush cove]

put ", true" after the take ownership

        SMODS.Rank:take_ownership(k,{
            prev = {
                unpack(AKYRS.RanksPrevSet[k]),
                prevRankMap[j]
            }
        }, true)```

@tall wharf

this makes it so that you're taking ownership silently

and will not add the mod badge

[tall wharf]

yes i get it 😭😭😭😭😭

[plush cove]

just making sure ;D

[tall wharf]

😭

[zealous glen]

Elections be upon ye #1343670935122870342 message

Which wording do you prefer?

-# if you want to opine

[errant fulcrum]

Is it possible to ban modded jokers from vanilla challenges?

[versed swan]

i mispelled the key in shader declaration 💀

[tall wharf]

shader is difficult

[bold gyro]

Hey y'all, I'm trying to implement a playing card returning to the hand after being played, but for some reason it's returning face down. What's causing this?

draw_card(G.play, G.hand, 0, 'up', false, v) --v = played card```

[tall wharf]

you might want to copy and modify G.FUNCS.draw_from_discards_to_deck

[next timber]

how can i make an edition trigger a calculate exactly once at the end of a round? i tried if context.end_of_round and (context.cardarea == G.jokers or context.cardarea == G.hand) then but that triggers like 8 times

[daring fern]

What do you want it to do?

[next timber]

i want to make it change one of its variables among other things but i dont see how thats relevant, i just need to know how to make it only trigger once at the end of the round

[manic rune]

if context.end_of_round and context.main_eval i think

[next timber]

thx

[bold gyro]

where can i find this is the dump?

[tall wharf]

common_events

i think

[bold gyro]

couldn't find it 😔

[tall wharf]

are you using vs code

[bold gyro]

yes

[tall wharf]

ok

hold on lemme search for oyu

i misspelled the fucn name

[bold gyro]

ah that'd be it

alright i'll try tinker around, thank you for the help!

[next timber]

ah fuck i had forgotten the joys of destroying cards

[tall wharf]

😭

pareidolia and caino

[next timber]

"why is my score going down every round" -me, testing the edition that gets worse every round

[hushed field]

There was a point in my testing where The Ring joker was the last in the collection, so if I needed to test something I spawned in 5 of them, and the amount of times I died because the joker I used for testing kills you after 7 rounds is eh... embarrasing

[next timber]

lmao

[tall wharf]

😭

ever got a run so good in testing

[next timber]

literally every time im trying to test i end up with a free blueprint in the first 2 antes

like

its unbelieveble how many times thats happened

[hushed field]

I've had so many no-discard royal flush hands on the first blind in testing

[next timber]

ok so when i add an event to the event queue in context.destroy_card, is there a way to make sure it happens after the card is visually destroyed?

its kinda confusing having a new card be given the parasite edition before you see the old one destroyed

i mean other than that visual hiccup it seems to be working fine

which is good

nEVERMIND

WHA

WHY IS EVERY CARD IN MY HAND A PARASITE NOW

[zealous glen]

Maybe in the return func

[next timber]

oh so you can return a function in a calculate? handy

[hushed field]

I got distracted from my goal of not adding a whole slew of new Jokers this update, so here I am, setting up 32 new Jokers ❤️

[zealous glen]

Me getting distracted from my decision of not adding Blinds by making Blinds

And now holding a vote

#1343670935122870342 message

[next timber]

my mod was supposed to be done by now

the first release of it

but then i decided i didnt have enough content and needed to add jokers

so here i am, adding editions

[hushed field]

I work in communications my job is to make language as succinct and communicative in as few words as possible. So my take is that describing game mechanics in a tiny text box clearly isn't possible and you just have to train players to feel the vibe of a description

[zealous glen]

True

[tall wharf]

:3

[next timber]

oh god. revive on a parasite card

revive is possibly the most unexpectedly broken thing in my mod because of how it interacts with the other broken things

[hushed field]

Also I should repair the modpack utility thing because somehow it doesn't work with the latest smods

[zealous glen]

I’m also not sure how happy I am with the Blind effect anyways

[next timber]

i am a little worried that the parasite shader may be doing exactly what local thunk tried to make the negative shader not do
that being. blackface
people will recognise it as a venom reference riiightt

[zealous glen]

Make it blue-ish

[next timber]

tru

[next timber]

what is wrong with you

why are you blue

[zealous glen]

Did you see that guy but Dichrome?

[next timber]

this was the moment he became jesse blueman

[hushed field]

Oh... Good to know you're baldphobic

[next timber]

buh??

[hushed field]

That's terrifying hahahaha damn

[hushed field]

'bald man equals Jesse Pinkman'??? I see how it is

Northernlion was right about people

[next timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_qZtLu52nM

[hushed field]

Hahaha, I suspected it was a reference to something

Sorry, breaking bad is the length of like 40 movies so I haven't seen it I was too busy watching all the cars spin offs

[next timber]

lmao

peak cinema

[hushed field]

Making a proper ui element for the Cars effect is also still on my todo list

[next timber]

yeah "quick" isnt a very good explanation

lol

[hushed field]

I assume I'll be able to set up a slider that dynamically counts down on the joker art will be not too difficult, considering there is a slider functionality for menus

[hushed field]

Yeah but it's the Cars joker, what do you expect 😋

[zealous glen]

I could mix and match with Black Gold, maybe.

Black Gold reads

Base Chips can’t be higher than 50% of money

[next timber]

vagabond builds

[zealous glen]

What is its effect?

[hushed field]

120 chips, decreasing to 0 over 60 seconds, and resetting when you enter a blind

[zealous glen]

Also I just played Ball Dice and Sticker game that features abducting UFOs

[hushed field]

I also wanna set up a Deadpool joker that gives you +chips based on how long you spent on its tooltip, which resets whenever you open its tooltip, so I need to set up a ui for that

[zealous glen]

I wonder if I could make this Chips, period

[zealous glen]

I had had an idea for a 4th wall breaking joker

[next timber]

lol

[zealous glen]

That gives a bonus if the played rank is in your seed

[next timber]

i wanna make a joker based on the twilight princess low% speedrun

[hushed field]

Chips focussed builds are rare enough that it's not a major hard counter, but I do think it's less desirable to limit chips that hard

[hushed field]

Hahaha, that's a fun idea for sure

[zealous glen]

I think the original idea was that each instance of adding to Chips couldn’t be greater than the money

But that’s harder to implement

And I think Black Gold’s current effect is good

[hushed field]

i didn't know you'd let something like that stop you, victin

didn't know you were weak like that

[zealous glen]

My issue is that for thematic reasons I want another Boss Blind relating to money

Hence Golden Dragon

Though I’m not too satisfied with it

Maybe it could just be a simple debuff effect for “cheap” cards

[midnight coyote]

how do you copy a card with copy_card again

[zealous glen]

I might also be able to make Golden Dragon scale dynamically actually

There’d be a small bug but it could stay for now

[next timber]

i should make a joker where if you wait for 118 hours all boss blind effects deactivate permenantly. referencing the celeste 100% minimum grabs speedrun of course

[zealous glen]

No

[next timber]

why not

its a great idea

[midnight coyote]

i just had this thought

[zealous glen]

I don’t like disabling all Bosses

Chicot is boring

[crisp coral]

smots gaming

[midnight coyote]

new survival multiplayer game
look inside
lethal company

[next timber]

i mean. yo have to wait 6 days

[zealous glen]

I’m not complaining if it’s easy or hard to get

I’m saying the reward isn’t interesting

[midnight coyote]

what do we think

i need to update my language on it

i see some oddities

but otherwise

[zealous glen]

I don’t think it’s fun

[midnight coyote]

ritual cards are a rarity

[zealous glen]

But it’s kinda thunkian in how it synergizes with Eternal sticker

I didn’t comment on their frequency

Just that I didn’t find the effect fun

[midnight coyote]

ooh it could be fun if it bypassed eternal

[zealous glen]

That is anti-fun

The fact it’s rare just makes it less fun ^^’

[tall wharf]

sick

[zealous glen]

To me anyways

[midnight coyote]

my point is that they dont show up that much

but there are ways to get plenty of them

like sever for example

generates 2 ritual cards

[zealous glen]

My point was independent of the frequency

[hushed field]

If they don't show up much, I'd potentially unbalance the rates a bit, so it's more of a risk reward, rather than a coin flip

[midnight coyote]

yeah so why isnt it fun

[midnight coyote]

thinking more like 66/33?

[hushed field]

I think so

[zealous glen]

Because it’s a coinflip

Even with odds in your favor

It wouldn’t be fun

Because it’s outside of your control

[tall wharf]

is this another balatro in alternate universe mod

I'm sorry

I'm so sorry

[midnight coyote]

its in your control to play the damn card or not

[midnight coyote]

no

i didnt know that was a thing even

[hushed field]

On that note, setting up an effect for the joker for Orson Welles' 1962 movie the Trial. How's this effect?
Win the game once you fulfill every step of the process. The process may contain up to 100 steps. This number can be changed if the situation requires it, as deemed so by the proper administrator. To file a complaint about the number of steps to take, one must discard a 5 card hand containing only cards of the same suit, but none may be of a rank involved in one's committing of their potential crime. If your played hand fulfills the current step of the process, gain +20 mult. the nature of the current step may be necesitated to change before scoring. If so, plaintifs are owed a $5 compensation, which can be redeemed by discarding a hand that contains no more than 3 cards, none of which are part of the current step. One may, at most, only have 3 unredeemed compensationary rewards. Collecting more will put start punative measures, resulting in a fine of up to or equal all money owned the next time a playing card with a nominal value equal to or thrice the amount of a prime value.

[zealous glen]

Exactly. And if I wouldn’t play with it ever I think that’s an issue

[midnight coyote]

theres a reason to play with it

[zealous glen]

Or at least I wouldn’t want to play with the mod ;P

[midnight coyote]

what if you get a really shit eternal

[zealous glen]

Why would I do that

[midnight coyote]

and you have a shot at getting rid of it

[zealous glen]

Who’s forcing me to get bad Eternals

[midnight coyote]

in some cases, you may not have a choice

[hushed field]

A very rare solve for a niche problem isn't great, I'd say

[midnight coyote]

im just giving examples

[zealous glen]

I had already considered a change to the vanilla Spectrals because I don’t like them much

[midnight coyote]

of how it could be used

[tall wharf]

50% chance to duplicate 2 random jokers but destroy all other jokers

I'm crying

sorry

[midnight coyote]

what

[hushed field]

Yeah, I find vanilla spectrals to often be not worth their downside too, Victin

[zealous glen]

For example:

Select 2 Jokers. Destroy one to make the other Negative (at random)

[midnight coyote]

fuuck that sounds awesome

[hushed field]

But also, Basil, you can put it in and play with it for a while. See if you or your playtesters tend to ever pick it up. It's hard to judge gameplay in a vacuum

[hushed field]

Ooh I do like that a lot

[zealous glen]

Yeah I’m talking about my opinion

I wouldn’t play with it

But it’s your mod

I wouldn’t have made Skips into a mechanic but it’s thunk’s game

[midnight coyote]

always be taking that negative tag

99% of gamblers quit before they finally get that negative that they want

[hushed field]

Skips to me are part of the concept of deckbuilders, but I definitely think skips aren't ever worth their cost in balatro, with the exception of early money

[zealous glen]

I understand thunk balanced them around higher Stakes with Eternal Stickers but yeah

[hushed field]

but it helps that it's a very incidental mechanic, generally

[midnight coyote]

if i get an early double + investment tag

[next timber]

i always take negatives and doubles (for negatives)

but rarely anything else

[midnight coyote]

negatives arent a bad take to me

ill take negatives, doubles, and investment but only if its ante 1/2

[zealous glen]

Yeah, most of the time I’m skipping for Spectrals because Spectrals are fun

[midnight coyote]

by ante 3 i usually have a better econ

and if i dont the run was never meant to be anyways

[zealous glen]

But otherwise I’ll only skip to end a run faster or maybe the Tag that gives a lot of money on beating the Boss

[hushed field]

i take negatives on white stake just because i can often deal with a bad negative without losing for lost econ and shop, and it's fun. But on higher stakes, skipping becomes very very risky, so I'm not likely to ever take it on any of the higher stakes

[zealous glen]

Thunk tried their hardest to make skipping worth anything

[midnight coyote]

hey victin i really like the idea of the 'kill one joker make the other negative'

[zealous glen]

And hasn’t succeeded

[midnight coyote]

do you mind if i steal it

[zealous glen]

As long as I can steal it back

[midnight coyote]

lol alr

it would honestly work better with the theme of the card

[hushed field]

Man, for modding purposes I do wish the stake system worked differently. I like it fine enough that it's just stacking new things in vanilla, but I want to add a stake that makes it so movie jokers can have a specific sticker, and i don't know if I think it's big enough of a change to make it a post-gold stake stake

Though I guess I could make Kino stakes an exclusive compatibility with the mod that makes stakes selectable instead of inherently stacking

[zealous glen]

You could branch to the side

I’m planning to do that for my mechanic that removes Skips

[midnight coyote]

is there a color to mark 'negative'

[zealous glen]

Dark edition

[midnight coyote]

huh

like for {C:}?

just like {C:dark_edition}?

[zealous glen]

The idea is that you can instead “Raise” and both play the Blind and get a Tag for an increased challenge

[midnight coyote]

alright, thanks

[zealous glen]

Like checking out an itemized checklist of Stakes to apply?

[hushed field]

Oooh, I love that. I've been honestly surprised the idea of raising wasn't a mechanci in any way

[hushed field]

yeah. I don't know which mod it is except that it is in dimserene's, haha

[zealous glen]

Myst had something like that IIRC

[hushed field]

you should make this a standalone mod, btw, because I think that'd be a fun mechanic for other mods to incorporate as well

[zealous glen]

Idk if that’s the best wording but it suffices for now

[crisp coral]

HouseRules! although I haven't touched that for a long time

[hushed field]

Slight rewrite for the Trial joker. Win the game once you fulfill every step of the trial. Information about one's wrongdoings and crimes that one stands accussed of is available by playing the proper hand as the third hand of any given blind. This joker is not obliged to give any specific information. The trial process may contain up to 100 steps. This number can be changed if the situation requires it, as deemed so by the proper administrator. To file a complaint about the number of steps to take, one must discard a 5 card hand containing only cards of the same suit, but none may be of a rank involved in one's committing of their potential crime. If your played hand fulfills the current step of the process, gain +20 mult. the nature of the current step may be necesitated to change before scoring. If so, plaintifs are owed a $5 compensation, which can be redeemed by discarding a hand that contains no more than 3 cards, none of which are part of the current step. One may, at most, only have 3 unredeemed compensationary rewards. Collecting more will put start punative measures, resulting in a fine of up to or equal all money owned the next time a playing card with a nominal value equal to or thrice the amount of a prime value. I'm glad Aiko's proven to me that putting uncomfortably large amounts of text in a text box at least doesn't fundamentally break the ui system, haha

[zealous glen]

Actually that was the original idea, but since it shares mechanics with my mod I was thinking of just having them together

[midnight coyote]

now how to make it pick one

because my original 'coin flip' wont work anymore

[next timber]

this is certainly a joker

[hushed field]

ooh, good to know! If it turns out it's my favorite way to implement my idea, and you're okay with it, I'm fine with seeing if I can update it if it's running into smods compatability issues

[zealous glen]

Actually I don’t think you can select more than one Joker

[midnight coyote]

me neither

not without mods

[hushed field]

no but you can make it so that you can if you're in possession of the consumable

[midnight coyote]

but that would be a game modifying mod

[zealous glen]

So maybe make it look at the two rightmost/leftmost or the two sidemost

[hushed field]

just update the highlight limit on the joker cardarea

[midnight coyote]

ill just look at the extremes of the 2 sides

so the first one

and the last one

ill make the negative stuff a slight delay so you can watch as you figure out which one goes away

ill pack all of it into events

[hushed field]

it's supposed to be unclear and overwhelming, but also have every line actually refer to a rule that affects the joker, haha. But the main idea is that if you wanna keep it simple, just play a hand that matches the current quest it'll give you, and the joker gives +20 mult

[crisp coral]

feel free!

[zealous glen]

One of the main aspects of the Raise system is the addition of Disenhancements

[crisp coral]

what the fuck

[zealous glen]

When Myst hits you with that

You know you’ve overdone it

[next timber]

ok so turns out if parasite loses mult at the end of the round, is destroyed, and the joker it chooses to give parasite to is after it in the joker order, the new parasite will immediately lose mult

[hushed field]

Doesn't Kafka get referenced in Library of Ruina, or am I misremembering that?

[zealous glen]

Disenhancements are like bad Enhancements

[zealous glen]

Kafka the writer or Kafka the gacha character

[hushed field]

I feel like The Trial generally is kind of a proto-SCP, vibeswise, and part of the roots of that entire genre

[zealous glen]

Maybe kafka the food

[crisp coral]

in Limbus Company

[next timber]

thats a good workaround

[next timber]

anyone got any ideas for not having a card lose xmult if it literally just got the edition?

[midnight coyote]

my idea for ritual cards is all of them need to have some risk reward in them

like for example

blood pact

[zealous glen]

Maybe

Destroy the left or rightmost Joker.
Add Negative to the other

[hushed field]

I knew it had to be in there. Kafka's too weird a writer for him not to be referenced in those games.

[midnight coyote]

hmm i like that

[native zinc]

The Bitter
Lose if final score is an odd number

how stupid is this

[zealous glen]

Yes

[hushed field]

almost impossible to play around, so basically a coinflip

[onyx sonnet]

Limbus is a special case because it is mostly made up of references to classic writers

[native zinc]

odd times odd is odd
odd times even is even
even times even is even

so more of a 3/4 chance

[native zinc]

to just ignore the blind

[midnight coyote]

whats this in ref to

[hushed field]

after ante 1, actually planning the evenness of a hand becomes quite hard

[midnight coyote]

oh

the boss blind

[zealous glen]

☝️

[midnight coyote]

yeah thats kind of awful

[onyx sonnet]

This ignored that not all xmult uses integers

[hushed field]

yeah, that's a fair point

[native zinc]

i think focusing on mult to be even is relatively easy unless like, Bloodstone

[onyx sonnet]

Most mult uses floats

[native zinc]

also most jokers give even + chips

[midnight coyote]

what do i know though

[zealous glen]

Actually outside of cards most Chips sources are even

[native zinc]

except for todd

[hushed field]

tbf, you only need one uneven source to have the result be potentially be uneven

there's also plenty of ways for a hand to end up giving a forced loss, I feel. Buuut, just implement it, I don't think it's that difficult to code, and it maybe easier to play around that my gut tells me

[onyx sonnet]

Steel, Constellation, Hologram, Baron, Observatory, Poly, and others I'm probably forgetting

[midnight coyote]

hey so if i wanted to look for the last joker could i do g.jokers.cards[#g.jokers.cards]

[onyx sonnet]

That's the rightmost joker, if that's what you mean by last

[midnight coyote]

yeah

'last' if read left to right

and then obvi first one is just [1]

[next timber]

i have considered making a deck where if a single hand scores higher than the blind requirement, the leftovers are subtracted instead of added

[onyx sonnet]

Still hate how Lua is 1 indexed instead of 0 indexed

[midnight coyote]

oh well

cant really change it

[crisp coral]

https://limbuscompany.wiki.gg/wiki/Hermann

[next timber]

so if you score 350 on the 300 blind, it subtracts the 50 and you only score 250

[midnight coyote]

so just work around it

[onyx sonnet]

I can and I will

I will travel back in time

To fix Lua

[zealous glen]

Did you see the Limbus/idk the verse/Lobotomy Corp decks?

[next timber]

but then if you score another 100, thats less than 300 so you go over to 350, im not evil enough to make you score exactly the blind

is this an awful deck idea or should i do it

[midnight coyote]

i was thinking that theres a 66% chance your money is multiplied by 1.5 and a 33% chance that its multiplied by 0.5

is that fun

[crisp coral]

the what

[zealous glen]

I think that’s ~5% gain over time?

Anyways I’m not super fond of these types of coinflips

Like original Grös michel

[crisp coral]

oh i've seen that

[next timber]

anybody know why if ((context.main_scoring and context.cardarea == G.play) or context.post_joker) and card == self then isn't firing?

[midnight coyote]

nostalgia critic joker that destroys a credit card if they coexist and gains x6 mult if it does so

[next timber]

lmao

[normal crest]

card == self is always false

[next timber]

damn

[normal crest]

Is this an edition

[next timber]

yes

[normal crest]

you should be abke to just remove that part

[midnight coyote]

‘a jimbo credit card?’

i don’t even know how balanced it is it just sounds funny to me

[hushed field]

There's so many movies about gambling or the stock market that like half my econ jokers are designed like this, haha

[midnight coyote]

hmm

[zealous glen]

There’s a difference between playing a coinflip once or repeatedly, but the execution also affects my opinion

I’m risk averse so I’m not attracted to uncontrolled gambling

Like Grös michel

[hushed field]

my main consideration is making the change for the negative effect quite low, so that the risk/reward isn't 'is this going to be beneficial', but 'when do I sell this joker'

[zealous glen]

I also have Pippi Panini in my mod

[next timber]

ok my parasite cards are super buggy again, they're losing far too much mult and acting like there are parasite playing cards being played when there aren't

[midnight coyote]

maybe smtn that has a different effect based on ante

[zealous glen]

1 in 4 to earn $20 otherwise lose $2

[hushed field]

also why a lot of those jokers in Kino have odds to increase the risk of bad things happening whenever the good thing happens, so that you're basically guaranteed the boon the first time, and the risk starts getting to you later

[hushed field]

why did I think her effect would change if you shook her enough?

[zealous glen]

I had also had the thought that a stock market/fashion trend mod would be fun

[next timber]

new idea: etchasketch joker

[midnight coyote]

i was thinking a ritual card that curses your entire hand, but gives you $30 in exchange

[zealous glen]

Have you seen Evil Arc Pippi?

[midnight coyote]

you know exactly what it’s gonna do

but you have to assess if it’s worth it at the time

maybe i’ll do $3 per card cursed

[hushed field]

I don't know if I know what Pippi Panini is, unless that's some pipi longstockings shit I'm too young for 😛

[midnight coyote]

cursed cards are put in a time limit by the way, they debuff after being played 3 times

[zealous glen]

https://vxtwitter.com/basedbinkie/status/1874077787918901623

[hushed field]

Before I started on Kino, I was setting up a monopoly-esque project in unity, which replaced streets with companies and each colour was a sector, which I wanted to simulate a stock market, including roaring kitty esque twitter influencers and crazy ceo scandals that you'd have to grok as to whether they'd effect the stock market, haha

[zealous glen]

Why not reuse Perishable? (I mean I know why but still)

[midnight coyote]

doesn’t fit the theme

and i want things to interact with cursed

and not perishable

[zealous glen]

Fair

[midnight coyote]

and perishable literally works different

same end goal

but different road to get there

[hushed field]

the problem was that I couldn't find a game design method I enjoyed enough to actually make emulating a stock market interesting, because I wanted that twitter-feed esque mechanic in there as well. But that meant that either the players were going to be able to see which 'tweets' were indicators of a mechanical change, or the changes would be too random to actually be predictable.

[zealous glen]

Yeah but two similar ideas can have one removed in favor of the other

[midnight coyote]

i don’t really like perishable

because there’s nothing you can do about it

with my idea of cursed cards

you can just

[zealous glen]

Well you can skip

[midnight coyote]

not play them until you absolutely need them

[next timber]

ok why is if context.destroy_card and context.cardarea == G.play and card.edition.extra.has_scored being triggered when i only have jokers with the effect? surely context.cardarea should limit it to the playing cards being played, no?

[midnight coyote]

with perishable you are kind of fucked either way

[hushed field]

It's one of those game design ideas where I'm sure actual generative AI for that text feed would've been the right choice, as it'd allow for text to be unique and therefor not an inherent predictor for mechanics

[zealous glen]

If you buy Perishables on Ante 4 you can take them to the final Boss

[midnight coyote]

but still it’s just not my thing

imo

[zealous glen]

I’m not trying to convince you

[midnight coyote]

and cursed is an enhancement

it debuffs either

• after 3 plays have been made with it
  or
• if you try to change the enhancement

so it weakens the card as it stands

[hushed field]

thinking in the context of balatro though, a mod that assigns 1 of 5 different 'industries' to each joker, with a 'stock market' affecting their power could be fun. Maybe put card ranks on the stock market as well, so that the values of 7s can rise, meaning they now give +12 chips, haha

[zealous glen]

Without restructuring everything

[next timber]

random event for eggs to skyrocket

[zealous glen]

My idea was to have Ranks and Suits

If you play them, they have a higher chance of going up

If you discard them, they have a higher chance of going down

[hushed field]

the only problem with any game that ties itself to a stock market mechanic is that either you make it too predictable, or too unpredictable. From a game design perspective, the fun of the stock market is being able to make educated guesses, while random bullshit can still happen

[zealous glen]

And there are random shocks

[hushed field]

yeah, that sounds like a fun implementation as well

[zealous glen]

TWEWY also had a similar mechanic

[midnight coyote]

i might add a ritual card that removes curses from your hand in exchange for something

[zealous glen]

But I never engaged with it in the game lol

I didn’t understand it

[hushed field]

If there wasn't a need for someone to host a server, it'd be fun to tie it to a multiplayer server that that's tied to, haha

are you familiar with Blaseball, Victin?

[zealous glen]

The clothes you wore and the items you used would make the Brand more popular in the region you were

[midnight coyote]

removes curses from your hand,curses all other cards in your hand

[zealous glen]

And grant you bonuses

Or maybe a different Brand would be popular and maybe you’d consider changing

[midnight coyote]

that’s something that could be played around

[hushed field]

to make this worth it, curses need to be quite negative, I think 🤔

[midnight coyote]

yeah

they prevent enhancements

[zealous glen]

I feel like that’s baseball from the year 3025 where they forgot how to play baseball and just shoot people with shotguns

[midnight coyote]

and debuff themselves after 3 plays

[hushed field]

basically.

[hushed field]

perhaps, after a card is debuffed, the curse moves to a different card? That way, it's good to get rid of curses. A perma debuffed card is best to just destroy after all

[midnight coyote]

that’s really good

[zealous glen]

What’s the name of this genre and why I have seen it so much (3 times)

[midnight coyote]

i like that concept

[hushed field]

Kino's got a bit of an archetype set up around cards that are permanently debuffed, and while they're a big downside, they're not so big a downside that you'd sacrifice good cards about it

[midnight coyote]

maybe if you destroy cursed cards the curse moves away

[zealous glen]

I want to design an archetype around my Curses and Disenhancements

[midnight coyote]

they’re debuffed until destroyed

[zealous glen]

The Disenhancements are mostly negative, and can be removed with Enhancements

[hushed field]

but no, it's fantasy league baseball game that ran a few years ago, where a hyper-detailed and bullshit filled algorithm simulated a baseball league. I've been obsessed with it as a game design thing

[zealous glen]

The Curses can apply Disenhancements or other mostly negative effects

[hushed field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5t8DwnDE1k

[zealous glen]

I saw people talk about it but I had no idea what was going on

[hushed field]

It's a lot less fun to actually play than to just engage with content about, haha

[zealous glen]

That reminds me I didn’t finish Paralyzed

[hushed field]

But ever since then I've been wanting to make some sort of 'gambling' game that plays itself with hyperdetailed bullshit simulations. I've looked into setting up a horse-racing game that runs races on twitch where every gallop is simulated, and affected by hoof-iron quality, bone structure of the horse, unicorn-dna percentage, etc. The only issue I have is that with a concept like that, you need to inherently assume you're gonna have an audience, otherwise the game can't exist, and at that point, how do I make a gambling game that isn't actually just gambling? haha

[native zinc]

to make it just gambling, do what all the gambling companies do to loophole their laws

[hushed field]

I think that's a necessary thing to do if you want removing curses to be a difficult thing. I'd maybe opt for making curses something that's treated not like it's on the card, but on your deck, it's just affecting a specific card at that moment

[native zinc]

add an easy skill based game to it

[hushed field]

legally, good idea

[native zinc]

exactly

[midnight coyote]

yeah

[native zinc]

noe its legally not gambling

[midnight coyote]

but i still like the idea of it being a n enhancement

so you can’t have steel cursed cards for example

[hushed field]

but I don't want to make a game that's disguised gambling, i want to make a game that's fun because it's gambling, but doesn't negatively affect people or promote gambling, haha

[native zinc]

maybe give them some math rocks to go about it

weighted rng

[hushed field]

I'd roll back some suggestions of mine, regardless, because I'm prone to overdesigning mechanics, but they can still be enhancements, but perhaps more so each stack of Curse you've collected forces 1 card in your deck to be cursed. So it's an enhancement that blocks other enhancements, still. But removing cursed just triggers the game to see 'oh, there's 1 less cursed card in deck than there are stacks, we need to curse a card'

[native zinc]

balatro would be so much better if every 40 minutes you got a popup that says DRINK WATER IDIOT

would recommend

[midnight coyote]

i see what you’re saying

i was thinking i call the process of removing a curse

‘purification’

and that only can be done by certain jokers or rituals

[native zinc]

ritual 1: use the Hierophant

thats it

[midnight coyote]

what does that one do

forgor

[hushed field]

One of the boss blinds I've got planned for once I finish the quest system kinda works like that. Permanently debuffs things in your deck until you've completed the cleansing ritual for each category

No clue yet if it's a fun mechanic

[zealous glen]

I made my Disenhancements Enhancements because I want them to integrate with existing mechanics and other mods

So anything that applies Enhancements can overwrite them

[midnight coyote]

boss blind that curses your first hand

[zealous glen]

That way it’s not a parasitic mechanic

[midnight coyote]

i like my current idea of curses because it forces you to play around it

you need to get those curses out asap

because even getting rid of them won’t fix shit, it’ll just put curses on the cards you want which is even worse

[zealous glen]

I like my idea because the Disenhancements could have positive effects rarely

And it encourages the bad Enhancements

Or random Enhancements

[hushed field]

That's a good thing to keep in mind

[midnight coyote]

maybe i could make purified cards more powerful somehow

[zealous glen]

As they remove Disenhancements

[hushed field]

it's the thing that I'm not huge on, for kino, that a lot of the mechanics only work with its own content. But perhaps if a good artist gets invested, I'll start work on 'Kino goes Balatro', which introduces non-movie reference versions of some mechanics 😛

[midnight coyote]

i’m also juggling my balatro mod with an actual commercial game project too

[zealous glen]

After you finish Kino Goes Balatro, release a movie about the process of creating it

Kino Goes Balatro Goes Kino

Then you make the game of the movie

[west mason]

how can i make a tag be trigged as soon as its added to the run?

[midnight coyote]

but making this could help me learn alot about what constitutes good game design

[zealous glen]

Good game design is when your game has a crafting system

[hushed field]

there's an immediate trigger for tags. Though, caveat is that immediate means the very next moment a tag can trigger, so if you're adding a tag in a moment that vanilla never adds one, there's no core way to trigger it asap

[midnight coyote]

not applicable

[zealous glen]

Bad game design is when I have to spend money to play a game

[hushed field]

I think it's fine for them to just return to normal, no? You could make a curse counterpart in blessing, and perhaps make it so that there is a joker, or a voucher or something that makes it so any purified card also gets blessed

[hushed field]

i'm burned out on the media industry after my pilot scripts have been stuck in not-development hell for like 6 years at this point. I'll just make a balatro mod based on making this balatro mod

[zealous glen]

I can’t tell if that’s serious or not

[midnight coyote]

hmm

[midnight coyote]

return to normal with a hidden tag that marks them as purified

and then get the voucher

i like it as a voucher

i’ll make it to where purified cards can’t be cursed again

[hushed field]

with jokers such as 'N, +1 mult for each function taken from another mod's source code and zero-indexing, every array that starts at 0 now starts at 1. This includes the x,y coordinates for sprite atlases.

[hushed field]

haha, I 'sold' a comedy pilot some years ago, but that's not as rare as it sounds. It just means I can't sell it to another production company until they've not started production for the given period. And most pilots die in that space, never to be heard from again

[zealous glen]

Makes sense

[ancient belfry]

getting a pilot sold is already pretty impressive on its own

[hushed field]

I'm still proud of it, though it's good to note that I'm not American, and the dutch national broadcasters are a lot more likely to look at and buy pilots from people not in the industry in any way. It was a cool experience, but also one that made me realize that I enjoy being creative more than making money off of it, and that making money off of it accounts for 95% of the labour, in most cases, haha

[topaz monolith]

I am currently making a joker card that checks for a specific spectral card in the consumables slots at end of round once, but I am unsure of the context combination, and the way to check for said spectral card. Any ideas?

[ancient belfry]

ben je Nederlands? lekker

[tall wharf]

sorry

[hushed field]

you can check for the spectral card by checking by checking if it's ability.name matches the name you want it to have, if it's vanilla. Or you can check its key by comparing it against ability.key, which will also help with modded content. You can access the consumables by iterating through the card area's cards, stored in G.consumables.cards

[hushed field]

ja aber leute gehen davon aus dass ich Deutsch bin, denn es 'Kino' saggt in mein Name

[ancient belfry]

ahhhh

lol

[quartz ravine]

Ohhh I love this null safe syntax

[hushed field]

ik denk dat dat correct Duits was, de middelbare school is al even geleden, haha

[hushed field]

I keep fucking it up because the sprites do zero index

[quartz ravine]

for _, heldCard in ipairs(G.hand.cards) do
        local cardAbility = heldCard.ability.name or "nil"
        sendInfoMessage(heldCard.base.id .. " has ability of " .. cardAbility)
    end

[manic rune]

i am being held

[hushed field]

me when I'm my cat and i'm being cuddled

[manic rune]

it is impossible to not hold a 🚗 though......

[manic rune]

touching grass in balala

[quartz ravine]

this is like a stone card mixed with a steel card. You want to have it in your hand but not play it, so it gets better and better

[topaz monolith]

Mind if there is an example in some way? Kinda stuck. Below is the if statement I have:
if not G.consumeables.cards.key == 'honey' then
At the moment, I want it to check for my modded spectral card 'honey' and if theres none, it will do something. The only context its going through is context.end_of_round only though so I might be forgeting a context

[manic rune]

r we sure the chips r worth it though

[quartz ravine]

It plays with some grass type monsters from Palworld and pokemon:

• one to retrigger grass
• another gains mult itself, like a reverse ramen each time a grass triggers

[stark geode]

Hey how do I pick a random consumable from the base game

[manic rune]

local theresHoney = false
for _,v in ipairs(G.consumeables.cards) do
   if v... then theresHoney = true break end
end

[hushed field]

no worries, but I'd say you barely need an example. That's already correct, except that the key for items has some extra things to keep in mind. Consumable keys start with 'c_' , and your modded items always have add their modprefix between the item-type key and the item-specific key. So in this case, youd have something like (adding a _ here to stop the discord formatting from fucking up without making me google)

if not G.consumeables.cards.key == "c_[YOURMODPREFIX]_honey" then

[quartz ravine]

I don't know, but I thought it would be fun to have a card that can be more powerful than a stone card. I also wanted to experiement with passing card args into a shader or sprites method, to make the grass look greener based on how high the accrued value is

Still trying to work that out

[stark geode]

I'm trying to make a joker that creates a random consumable

But idk how to get it to select a random consumable to make

[quartz ravine]

No one asked but here is what the grass guy looks like 🙂

[quartz ravine]

Check out Hallucination for inspiration.

[stark geode]

What mod

[zealous glen]

It at least makes sense because it’s not an index

It’s a multiplier

[quartz ravine]

It's in the base game,

G.GAME.consumeable_buffer = G.GAME.consumeable_buffer + 1
G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
    trigger = 'before',
    delay = 0.0,
    func = (function()
            local card = create_card('Tarot',G.consumeables, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, 'hal')
            card:add_to_deck()
            G.consumeables:emplace(card)
            G.GAME.consumeable_buffer = 0
        return true
    end)}))

[zealous glen]

Balatro

[stark geode]

I'm dumb

[topaz monolith]

if not G.consumeables.cards.key == "c_breadjokers_honey" then
This is what I have and it still returns false, with either having the honey spectral card or not having it. The key is just 'honey' so I am unsure why its not even finding the card

[hushed field]

oh, sorry, i should've read your code better. Yeah, this isn't iterating, it's checking a table!

for _index, _card in ipairs(G.consumeables.cards) do
  if _card.ability.key == "c_breadjokers_honey" then
    //what you want to happen if it's that key
  end
end

I'm not entirely sure if I'm using ability.key correctly there, but let me check how I do it in my mod

[topaz monolith]

Using ability crashes the game outright when the joker appears. I think the ability is used for the extra configs, maybe

[hushed field]

Oh, i'm checking for it like this
_card.key == "c_kino_ego", ability is only necessary if you're checking name, not key

that's a bit unintuitive, but yeah. Checking for the key is generally the way to go about it when it comes to modded items

[zealous glen]

When aren’t rounds consecutive?

[uncut grail]

i guess this might be a bad description, that's what i was going to ask about

it's meant to reset when a blind is skipped

[thin anchor]

aah

[uncut grail]

should i just state that outright?

or is this fine

[zealous glen]

I think so

[uncut grail]

so "This joker gains +#2# Chips per round played. Resets when a blind is skipped (Currently +#1# Chips)"?

[hushed field]

i like the texture on the artwork

probably a joker that's always worth picking up though, if you encounter it and you have space

[uncut grail]

thanks!! is it clear that this is meant to be pajamas lol

[manic rune]

i think if its mult then its definitely worth it

[uncut grail]

yeah, i thought it could be nice! it was mult initially but thought that it's kind of boring if it's mult, then

[manic rune]

but chips are too abundant, like, really abundant

to the point +500 chips is not even that good

[uncut grail]

chose chips so this is nice for plasma

[hushed field]

yeah but on higher stakes this is an incredibly early game survival tool

[uncut grail]

should i nerf it a tad or is it fine

[hushed field]

I'd play with it a bit then see if it needs a nerf

[uncut grail]

fair!

[lethal ridge]

any function to remove debuffs

or add debuffs permanently (unless removed)

[uncut grail]

by the way here are the finished spectral cards

[buoyant merlin]

Does anyone know where steamodded handles modded joker calculations and/or tooltip drawing?

[lethal ridge]

wow

such a cool ability and sprites

[uncut grail]

tysm!

[uncut grail]

you mean where in the source code?

of steamodded?

[buoyant merlin]

Yeah, like what file(s)

I've managed to get a patcher working to add a perma bonus to jokers, but it only works on vanilla jokers

[uncut grail]

smods/src/game_object.lua i think?

not sure

[hushed field]

I'd check how the perma_mult stuff is implemented, as that does exactly that for playing cards

[zealous glen]

Personally I think it’s too easy to use and it discourages doing something you don’t want to do

[spark remnant]

would it be possible to create a joker that allows for 7 cards hands to be played? might not be possible with smods but what about with lovely patches?

[buoyant merlin]

I did reference that, and it worked for vanilla jokers, but also note how no playing card ranks/ids are modded (that I know of)

[uncut grail]

i mean, my thought process was that this joker should only be good for <3 antes. if you happen to stumble upon that, which is already quite a low chance, i think it's a nice way of determining your playstyle

[buoyant merlin]

I'll check it out

[hushed field]

cryptid does this, so definitely

[uncut grail]

otherwise, i had an idea that it could be an uncommon that gives you a double tag each time you skip a blind but resets its chip count

but thought that this would be way too op

[thin anchor]

how do you check if you have a certain joker?

[uncut grail]

nevermind what the hell sleepless is op for plasma

[topaz monolith]

So, I was thinking it was gonna work, but nothing happened, so I printed the _card.key and it sends back nil... I was thinking it might be a missing context, but I can't tell

[hushed field]

could you show your full code?

The other option is to check against the centers, btw. I think _card.center == G.P_CENTERS["itemkeyhere"] also works, in case of consumables

[zealous glen]

SMODS adds a function for it

[thin anchor]

oh

[uncut grail]

LOL sleepless joker wins the whole run by itself playing high card on plasma

it got to +960 chips

i think +40 is OP

[thin anchor]

+20

[uncut grail]

+20 should work, yeah

[thin anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-jimbo-wave-jump-hi-gif-4322737058573181479

[topaz monolith]

Got that part to work. Thanks for helping

[uncut grail]

ok next up is medusa

probably my coolest idea for a joker

[hushed field]

does it turn face cards to stone? 😛

[uncut grail]

cooler..

its a rare that turns the rightmost card in each hand stone. it gets +0.5x mult per unpetrified card

[cloud anvil]

does anyone know how to make a joker use emult+echips sounds from talisman when triggered?

i'm not particularly good at modding so i'm at a wall here since nothing i've tried has worked

[topaz monolith]

Well, thats a plain lie. Its passing the if statement regardless of consumables keys.

[spark remnant]

that's nice, what joker is it?

[cloud anvil]

okay i've realised putting emult before everything else on my joker makes it use the emult sound but i would like if it essentially avoided all other sounds so i could have the emult and/or chips trigger last

[daring fern]

Fractal fingers.

[thin anchor]

maybe i should balance this guy more

[uncut grail]

sprite hell

war is war

[thin anchor]

rgbjoker

[uncut grail]

yupe..

i wonder what color should the snakes be

like.. greeen probably?

[topaz monolith]

Thread to stop flooding chat

[uncut grail]

dark green

[thin anchor]

purpole!!!!!

[uncut grail]

average cryptid enjoyer

[thin anchor]

wshat

[uncut grail]

yay time to make it toxic purple

[thin anchor]

what

[uncut grail]

idk

im losing it

[thin anchor]

question mark

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/926833409467219988/1069857802253766686/BF22DEC9-AFD7-49A7-AE54-2A386EBE5122.gif

[uncut grail]

nintendo direct is starting, adrenalin is pumping

[keen tiger]

nah thats perfect animatic behavior

if you want to balance add a caveat chance of EXTERMINATING 2 different cards in your desk at the end of the round

[thin anchor]

im watching it!!!

[uncut grail]

im waiting for deltarune and i will NOT be disappointed

100%

[thin anchor]

i love that idea
gonna figure out how to add it

[uncut grail]

wtf peak?

[thin anchor]

he belongs in the baron build

stats:

[uncut grail]

why did jimbo put seaweed on his head..

[thin anchor]

PURPOLE!!!!!

[uncut grail]

ok

ourple it is

[thin anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fire-flamethrower-burn-on-fire-gif-7684110515453159552

[uncut grail]

that's actually a great way to make like 0.1 retrigger thing work

[thin anchor]

huh

im going to make a coffee joker that increases animatic's power substantially

[uncut grail]

i dont know if this has the potential to look normal ever but

i will try

[thin anchor]

PURPOLE!!!!! YAYAYAYAYY!!!!

this is stupid

[uncut grail]

yup

[thin anchor]

why do i want purple

why do i do this

[uncut grail]

ourpl

[thin anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/betrayal-sad-scarred-cat-gif-26848001

when is the direct going to start im so tired of waiting

[modest iris]

hello guys, i wanted to ask y'all if you have any idea why the message "Designing..." appears under al the cards in my hand when i actually want it to appear only under the joker when a round passes and it isn't destroyed and also how to fix it.

calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.end_of_round and not context.blueprint then
            if pseudorandom('architect') < G.GAME.probabilities.normal/card.ability.extra
                and not card.ability.is_destroyed then
                card.ability.is_destroyed = true
                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                    func = function()
                        play_sound('tarot1')
                        card.T.r = -0.2
                        card:juice_up(0.3, 0.4)
                        card.states.drag.is = true
                        card.children.center.pinch.x = true
                        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after', delay = 0.3, blockable = false,
                                func = function()
                                    G.jokers:remove_card(card)
                                    card:remove()
                                    local new_blueprint = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, nil,nil,nil,nil, 'j_blueprint')
                                    new_blueprint:add_to_deck()
                                    G.jokers:emplace(new_blueprint)
                                    return true
                                end
                            }))
                    return true
                    end  
                    }))
                return{
                    message = "Done!",
                    color = G.C.BLUE
                    }
            else
                return{
                    message = "Designing..."
                }
            end   
        end
    end

[hushed field]

you're not checking for cardarea, and context.end_of_round is a context that passes along each individual card

[red flower]

check for context.main_eval

[uncut grail]

ok i think

this is not how medusa looks

[tall apex]

Einstein joker

[uncut grail]

help

how do i make this look like stone 😭

[bold gyro]

hey y'all, what's your go-to way to test disabled cards?

[uncut grail]

debuffed?

[bold gyro]

yeah debuffed

[keen tiger]

give it a cracked look?

[uncut grail]

fair!

[uncut grail]

wow, i thought that was a feature in the balatro debug plus mod

apparently not

[red flower]

either perishable or use debugplus to call the SMODS.debuff_card command

[modest iris]

it worked tysm

[thin anchor]

where are the enhancement sprites stored

[hushed field]

as always, best way to thank me is to send a scary chain e-mail to ten relatives to make them play Balatro Goes Kino ❤️

[thin anchor]

[daring fern]

resources/textures/1x/Enhancers.png in the game files.

[thin anchor]

thanks

[uncut grail]

ok i literally can't make this look normal

can anybody help?

[thin anchor]

uhh erm uhmm ooh uhh heeee uhmmhmhm

[uncut grail]

welp that was a fun message

[burnt lance]

Making my first joker… this one’s a fun idea I think. Thoughts?

[lament agate]

so original

[glad osprey]

this is strangely comical

[burnt lance]

I mean, it’s a joke-r

[glad osprey]

I will ban you from making any more mods

[glad osprey]

give it pupils maybe????

idk ill look at it later

[burnt lance]

Apologies. If it’s redemption, I also have a legendary joker concept;
Lucretia - Creates a negative copy of a random joker (other than Lucretia) at the end of each ante.

I don’t have the pixel art done for the face yet

[glad osprey]

the humble speculo:

[burnt lance]

(Unique ideas are a rarity.)

[glad osprey]

no this is literally identical to cryptids speculo

genuinely it's just speculo lmao

[burnt lance]

I wasn’t aware that it existed

[glad osprey]

only difference is that speculo is an exotic and this is a legendary

[hushed field]

it's a very common concept

[burnt lance]

Makes sense.

Im quite new to modding, and the cryptid mod scares me

[glad osprey]

fair

it's quite a good resource tho

[burnt lance]

Fair. I’ve been using plantain/extra credit as my base to work off of.

[lament agate]

50 fucking audios

[glad osprey]

what the fuck

looney toons ass mod

wait no

[lament agate]

exactly the premise of my mod

[glad osprey]

Johnny test ass mod

[burnt lance]

Looking at speculo, speculo is even better than my concept because its post shop, not post ante. Same concept, less balanced.

[lament agate]

calculation + result/cashout screen

im almost there

[modern kindle]

Good schmorning chat

[glad osprey]

make every sound the Johnny test whip

[lament agate]

i could actually

but im doing this first

[thin anchor]

bullseye

[lament agate]

i was planning to replace all of it with foghorn

[burnt lance]

I’ve got a bunch more concepts, but my ultimate goal is to add stuff that’s in the spirit of the main game.

[open aspen]

i know its legendary but i wonder if making it a 1/2 chance would be more balanced (esp cause oa6 would make it guaranteed)

so to get the full use you cant just pull it but have to try a bit

i think tis prolly fine the way it is

but idk i thought its a WEE bit (no pun intended) too good for vanilla idk

[burnt lance]

I say the balancing point is that it’s 1/ante
that means guaranteed you get a negative joker, but by end of the main game that’s only 8 additional jokers.
Perhaps blueprint incompatibility would be a good compromise?

[open aspen]

i think thats good then yea

[burnt lance]

That way you can’t get perkeo bs going on with it

[open aspen]

probably still a bit OP, definitely would be the best legendary in most cases but i think it would fit in vanilla

if u could blueprint it? oh boy...

[burnt lance]

Yeah the caveat being that legendaries are a random chance in general, and you have to get a soul in vanilla, so the chances of getting it would be very low.

I don’t think it’s too unbalanced outside of that, though it could certainly be nerfed.

[open aspen]

i think a good way to test is how free does this legendary make your win

[burnt lance]

Fair. I suppose that depends on what other jokers you’re offered.

[open aspen]

like if its nearly an instant win I'd say its unlike the other legendaries and a rework could be considered

[open aspen]

for sure

[burnt lance]

So if you’re offered a blueprint/brainstorm or an xMult joker perhaps it’s an instant win, but outside of that it’s more of a setup tool.

[open aspen]

id say its the same vein as perkeo (but definitely better in more cases)

[burnt lance]

I think there’s still lose cases though, especially if it forces a “fire sale” if you want it to copy something specific, much like invis joker

[open aspen]

cause deck fixing is nice with perkeo but like jokers negative are good

[burnt lance]

Another balance point could be that it dies after a certain number of antes

[open aspen]

yea if it snow balls on a shit joker it could go bad (but you could just sell the extra negatives)

[open aspen]

the issue with this is what if u only care about ante 8

and get it ante 8

free sticker ig LOL

not even tho

cause u might die if u sell a joker for it

[burnt lance]

I mean, that’s the chance you take with soul

[modern kindle]

<@&1133519078540185692>

shoot this man

[burnt lance]

Sell a joker, get a chicot

[quaint saddle]

🔫

[modern kindle]

thanks goat

[hushed field]

Thought I wasn't gonna add jokers besides 2 legendaries this update but

[modern kindle]

ice!

[red flower]

how many jokers are u at

[open aspen]

are these all movies

[hushed field]

205 implemented, assets for 215 and now 32 additional ones

[open aspen]

cause i find the idea of a dexter joker really funny

the bay harbour jester

[hushed field]

only movies, yes, i don't know enough about tv 😛

[modern kindle]

i pale in conmpairson to ice

[open aspen]

fair enough

[rain slate]

why does ```
info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = "eternal", set = "Other" }
info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = "perishable", set = "Other" }
info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = "rental", set = "Other" }

[open aspen]

that just means theres a niche for tv shows 😈

[hushed field]

tbh, making assets like this speeds up the way I can implement jokers incredibly quickly haha

[open aspen]

me with one sticker implemented

[hushed field]

i keep getting requests for them so there's definitely space 😛

[red flower]

:3

[hushed field]

what's the crash?

[open aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-guns-dexter-dexter-morgan-michael-c-hall-gif-3561803

[modern kindle]

thats fair, i just be trying to come up with shit i usually havent seen that isnt like

+2 mult for every toe stubbed

[crisp coral]

assets for me is the easiest part

[open aspen]

i have some really unique ideas for my mod

[crisp coral]

thinking of abilities that fits with the abnormalities is the hard part

[rain slate]

it crashes in the localize function in misc_functions.lua

[modern kindle]

assets for me is also the easy part, because i dont do them :)

[stark geode]

Is there a smods thing for destroying cards

[hushed field]

feel free to post the crash report and your code, that'll maybe help!

[rain slate]

I'm thinking I wrote something incorrectly which it then (obviously) fails to localize, but this seems to be the way to add stickers to the info queue

[open aspen]

like even the first idea i have (which im okay with sharing) i think is very unique

[hushed field]

oh wait, it might be because some of those require vars? I think rental and perishable both do

[rain slate]

I literally posted my code but if you want it more specifically then it's ```lua
loc_vars = function (self, info_queue, card)
info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = "eternal", set = "Other" }
info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = "perishable", set = "Other" }
info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { key = "rental", set = "Other" }
end,

[open aspen]

which is a sticker (essentially enhancement but its a sticker for compatibility reasons) that gives mult and moves to a different card

its all based around tag

[hushed field]

that's why I've added a bunch of enhancements so I can just make ten varieties of 'for every [new enhancement] in your deck, +5 glurpos'

[open aspen]

so it "tags" an adjacent playing card

[hushed field]

yeah, you need vars for perishable and rental

[modern kindle]

i should start getting into enhancements myself

[rain slate]

how would I do that

[open aspen]

i wanted to make my mod with enhancements

[hushed field]

{key = 'rental', set = 'Other', vars = {G.GAME.rental_rate or 1}}

don't know the one for perishable of the top of my head, though

[open aspen]

but having compatibility between my enhancements and others (i dont want it to overwrite existing vanilla enhancements when applied) seems like a headache

[thin anchor]

i didnt know it was so easy to make something cool

[open aspen]

so i went with the sticker idea

[open aspen]

hell yea

[rain slate]

ah I see

[modern kindle]

ive made one enhancement so far but it took a backseat to talisman compat and bug fixing and other joker additions

[rain slate]

I think it's just G.GAME.perishable_rounds or smtn like that

[burnt lance]

I’ve got like 15 joker ideas, but many of them are probably already existent. Also thinking about adding new tarot cards in line with the classic tarot suits (also probably been done before, but modding for self more than anyone else lol)

[modern kindle]

at this point im sure most of the general ideas people have exist in one way or another, just add your attempt anyway and itll be epic 😎

[burnt lance]

E. Appreciate

This is what I came up with:

New tarot cards:
wand: choose three cards. Destroy one, add a random seal to one, add a random enhancement to the last

Sword: Select 3 cards. Destroy one, increase the rank of one, decrease the rank of one

chalice: select three cards. Destroy one, add a random edition to one, change the last to a random suit.

Coin: destroy a card, gain money equal to its rank

[open aspen]

its a LOT of effort to make somethign unique, perhaps surprisingly so

so dw

[hushed field]

main thing you can be sure of that if it's a different-suit variant of an existing joker, it's been done, and if it's based on a real tarot card, or the concept is 'reverse tarot' it's been done, but there's a lot of space for uniqueness still ofc

[open aspen]

or something like adding more jolly joker types for different hands

[burnt lance]

Oh, of course. I’m just thinking in terms of vanilla what I could reasonably add

[hushed field]

show the mod that adds a joker like this and I'll step down from my throne as the most creative creature on this entire earth

Name: The Trial
Effect:
Win the game once you fulfill every step of the trial. Information about one's wrongdoings and crimes that one stands accussed of is available by playing the proper hand as the third hand of any given blind. This joker is not obliged to give any specific information. The trial process may contain up to 100 steps. This number can be changed if the situation requires it, as deemed so by the proper administrator. To file a complaint about the number of steps to take, one must discard a 5 card hand containing only cards of the same suit, but none may be of a rank involved in one's committing of their potential crime. If your played hand fulfills the current step of the process, gain +20 mult. the nature of the current step may be necesitated to change before scoring. If so, plaintifs are owed a $5 compensation, which can be redeemed by discarding a hand that contains no more than 3 cards, none of which are part of the current step. One may, at most, only have 3 unredeemed compensationary rewards. Collecting more will put start punative measures, resulting in a fine of up to or equal all money owned the next time a playing card with a nominal value equal to or thrice the amount of a prime value.```

[open aspen]

bro

[burnt lance]

It’s an exercise in idea generation and implementation over uniqueness (though uniqueness is a nice bonus)

[open aspen]

i literally just made that

[hushed field]

fuck

[stark geode]

Or just make joker but perkeo

[open aspen]

did u get that backwards

[stark geode]

Does anyone know how to destroy cards

Like makes joker destroy a card

[hushed field]

during a blind, there's the context.destroy_card, which like context.individual goes through all cards in hand and play. If your function returns true, the card will be destroyed

[crisp coral]

ngl i think the current reversed tarots mods all missed the mark and made them the opposite version instead of the alternate version

[stark geode]

What about after a shop

[red flower]

reversed tarots but it's like persona 3 where they get angry at you if you don't use them enough and reverse themselves

[stark geode]

I'm trying to destroy a consumable

[hushed field]

best game designers are those that can create new stuff that's rules lite and fitting within the theme, and it's definitely a skill to be able to properly design vanilla-like abilities for an existing game

[stark geode]

Then create a new random one

[open aspen]

i think reverse tarots that do something not quite the same but not opposite are sick

[hushed field]

oh, in that case you can just call :start_dissolve on them, basically

[hushed field]

I haven't played with any mod that adds them specifically, but I feel like every few days I see a screenshot of a different mod that adds them pop up, haha

[open aspen]

^

[burnt lance]

For sure.
I’ve got a good number of jokers in mind that hopefully fit the vanilla vibe. Example
“Good boy - each hand, fetches a card from your deck matching the rank of a card in your hand.”

[crisp coral]

i'd wager that all of them are like

The Reversed Lovers - Enhance 1 card into [counts as all ranks] Card

[open aspen]

good boy

[crisp coral]

this design is LAME

[open aspen]

ok the only reversed one i can get behind is reverse strength

[hushed field]

I'd say fetching is definitely a non-vanilla mechanic, but I do like that concept

[open aspen]

wait what if it picked a random card from your first hand that will guaranteed to draw the same rank on your next hand?

[stark geode]

What data type is g.consumeibles.cards

[open aspen]

wait no thats bad

nvm

[burnt lance]

Like a dog!
There’s also “bad girl, which consumes food based/perishable jokers (like cavendish, gros michel, turtle bean) for a reward”

[open aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/cop-dog-carrying-police-tail-wag-gif-16618288483190044446

[burnt lance]

It picks a random card in the deck that matches rank with a random card in your hand, unless it can’t

[hushed field]

a table

[thin anchor]

enhancing enhancements

[open aspen]

PPAP

[rain slate]

what do NO cards do

[thin anchor]

i dont know

[open aspen]

Apple pen, pineapple pen

pen pineapple apple pen

[rain slate]

permanently debuffed

[small mango]

heyo gamers, i wanna start learning how to make mods for balatro but can't seem to find much about it on google. anyone got some resources for beginner modders that could help?

[hushed field]

#1349064230825103441!

[open aspen]

^

i learned a lot from referencing other mods as well

[hushed field]

ask questions, as well

[open aspen]

so check that out first and perhaps look at a mod like paperback

i really like how paperback structured their mod

[hollow marsh]

how do you add mod icons for steamodded?

[small mango]

sweeet thanks so much!!

[burnt lance]

There’s a lot of good mods that exist already for reference

[hushed field]

documentation is lacking compared to learning a new programming language, but people are happy to help and give advice or explain things

or figure out what's going wrong