💻・modding-dev

[rugged pier]

oooo okay i was looking at wrong tab, thank you

[open aspen]

ig that might be it

[sonic cedar]

something involving adding to the game’s own files (i know like nothing don’t ask me 😭)

[humble dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/emo-crashout-school-threat-tiktok-crashout-crashout-them-yns-gif-8526646474316288308

[manic rune]

:3

i see this every day

[gentle rain]

BLEURGH!!! why the piss

the stuff abt discarding is at the end

[shell timber]

chat how does this look

[sonic cedar]

oh my god i made it

[gentle rain]

WAITIM DUMB AUUGH

i know the issues

[glad crane]

Shader uniform 'shader_here' does not exist Can anyone help me understand this shader error? I copied the shader example, changed the rbg values around to carry an average that I want, and it gives that error

    tex.r = average;
    tex.g = average;
    tex.b = average;```
For reference, this is all I changed, added the average number and changed the tex r, g, and b to the average

[midnight coyote]

i have made a severe lapse in my judgement when making this

[brazen tusk]

is that an exposed nerve ending

[manic rune]

i heard you like em young

[brazen tusk]

this is currently giving the default sell value of the card not the increased one,
is there a way i can get it to give double the current sell value when selling?

[midnight coyote]

hey is there a way to force a joker you modded in to show up? to test it's effects

[shell timber]

you can use DebugPlus

[midnight coyote]

where would one find that

[shell timber]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1228149931257237664

[gilded narwhal]

pls

Unless legendaries appear last by default

[brazen tusk]

for me its just the order i have them in my list

[gilded narwhal]

It's not like that for me

[brazen tusk]

could you send a screenshot of the discard part, easier to see on mobile

[gilded narwhal]

They're all in their own seperate files so that prolly affects it

[sonic cedar]

what’s the check for if cards have been played before? like say i wanted to check if a certain few cards were played, and i wanted to do it under a context.after

[rugged pier]

calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.joker_main and card.ability.extra.chip > 0 then
            return {
                chips = card.ability.extra.chip
            }
        end

        if context.discard then
            local face_cards = 0

            for k, v in ipairs(context.full_hand) do
                if v:is_face() then 
                    face_cards = face_cards + 1 
                end
            end

            if face_cards >= card.ability.extra.faces and not context.blueprint then
                card.ability.extra.chip = card.ability.extra.chip + card.ability.extra.chip_mod
                return {
                    message = 'Upgraded!',
                    color = G.C.CHIPS,
                    card = card
                }
            end
        end
    end

Why does this upgrade the joker 5 times instead of once?

[gentle rain]

i already fixed it but ty regardless, now im dealing w a different issue

[brazen tusk]

just follows this order for me

[gilded narwhal]

ah

[brazen tusk]

i can try help if you need

[gilded narwhal]

I just have it like this

and its not appearing in the order of the load table either

[brazen tusk]

i was using that before and i didnt notice any consistency with the order they loaded, i'd add a new joker and they would all get shuffled

[sonic cedar]

better explanation, say i played at least one 2 and one King during a blind. if i wanted a joker to do something once a 2 and a King were played at some point during that blind, what would i have the joker check for?

[brazen tusk]

context.other_card:get_id() == 2 and context.other_card:get_id() == 13

im not sure how you'd get it for any point during a blind though

[manic rune]

save played cards in a table

[sonic cedar]

yeah that’s the part i n—come again

[manic rune]

then check that everytime in context.after

:3

this is a blind effect, right?

[sonic cedar]

this is a joker

[manic rune]

oh

save played cards in a var of that joker

card.ability.extra.played_cards or something

then in context.after, do smt like

local played2, playedK = false, false
for _,v in ipairs(card.ability.extra.played_cards) do
  if v:get_id() == 2 then
    played2 = true
  elseif v:get_id() == 13 then
    playedK = true
  end
  if played2 and playedK then break end
end

--if played2 and playedK == true then blah blah

[midnight coyote]

oh dear god

i made the jonker set mult and chips to zero 😭

[gentle rain]

the issue here is that when this is triggered, it crashes, saying 'base' is a nil value (highlighted on line 285)

[sonic cedar]

ok i’m stuck here :) how would i save multiple values to it

[manic rune]

tables

card.ability.extra.played_cards = {}

[brazen tusk]

would it be base_value?

[manic rune]

then whenever a card is played:
table.insert(card.ability.extra.played_cards, context.other_card)

[gentle rain]

i use base_value elsewhere and it works fine is what is messing me up

[sonic cedar]

oh real?

[manic rune]

yeah

[sonic cedar]

let me workshop something rq

[manic rune]

you can put tables in there

[gentle rain]

and i want the value not the id, because i would like it to read ace instead of 14

[brazen tusk]

hold on imma download the thing and look through it properly

[gentle rain]

i dont understand why it works here, highlighted, but not there

[gentle rain]

probably have made some updates, heres this

[brazen tusk]

ah ok cool

[umbral zodiac]

does anyone know how i could make this dynatext object (inside of a uibox) square the chips instead of just showing [chipsvalue^2]

config = {
                            object = DynaText({
                                string = { { ref_table = G.GAME.blind, ref_value = "chips", prefix = "Overscoring enabled at [", suffix = "^2] chips." } },
                                colours = { G.C.UI.TEXT_LIGHT },
                                shadow = true,
                                float = true,
                                scale = 0.4,
                                y_offset = -4,
                            }),
                            id = "ante_overscoreText",
                        },

im not sure how i could actually get the value so i could do math with it

[gentle rain]

is it not working because it's a for i = 1, n do function nested within a for i, v in ipairs() do function?

[sonic cedar]

do they have a context for a scoring CARD? i know they do for a scoring hand (actually can’t i just run it in scoring hand now that i think about it)

[manic rune]

you dont need that

just run a for loop through context.scoring_hand

and it will return each scoring card

[brazen tusk]

i think that could be it, if all your other ones are working and aren't nested that would be the first thing i'd think

[paper zealot]

You'd have to calculate it elsewhere, store the squared value in a table, and pass that ref_table and ref_value instead. Make sure to recalculate as necessary whenever chips might change

[gentle rain]

could i just put a different variable for for i = 1 then?

[umbral zodiac]

the issue with that is, the uibox this is (boss blind) is made right before the blind chips are actually set properly, so if i try to do it beforehand, it just says the chips are 0

[gentle rain]

or for for i, v in ipairs() for that matter

[manic rune]

ur saving every card in ur deck :3

[sonic cedar]

im cooked

[gentle rain]

because if they both require i to work then fuckkkk

[manic rune]

if context.before and context.cardarea == G.jokers then
   for i,v in ipairs(context.scoring_hand) do
   ...
   end
end

thus is what i meant

[sonic cedar]

just change playing_cards to the context- yeah

[sonic cedar]

OH SHOOT I WAS RUNNING IT IN THE SCORING HAND 😭 im foolish

[umbral zodiac]

let me try something actually hold on

[paper zealot]

Create the temporary table first and pass it to the DynaText, then calculate and set that table value when you can. The DynaText will automatically update with the latest value if you're using the ref_table correctly

[vocal cedar]

chat what am i doing wrong

isnt there a way to specefically call like "max_highlighted" or something so i can avoid the can use if statement?

its crashing on the len(G.hand.highlighted) < card.ability.hold then

[manic rune]

(#G.hand.highlighted or 0)

that would probably work

[errant fulcrum]

Can someone tell me why the enhancement takes effect after flipping back over? I have the abilty set inbetween the flips

G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after', delay = 0.4, func = function()
            play_sound('tarot1')
            card:juice_up(0.3, 0.5)
            return true end }))
        for i=1, #G.hand.highlighted do
            local percent = 1.15 - (i-0.999)/(#G.hand.highlighted-0.998)*0.3
            G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after',delay = 0.15,func = function() G.hand.highlighted[i]:flip();play_sound('card1', percent);G.hand.highlighted[i]:juice_up(0.3, 0.3);return true end }))
        end
        delay(0.2)
        local rightmost = G.hand.highlighted[1]
        local leftmost = G.hand.highlighted[1]
            for i=1, #G.hand.highlighted do if G.hand.highlighted[i].T.x > rightmost.T.x then rightmost = G.hand.highlighted[i] end end
            for i=1, #G.hand.highlighted do if G.hand.highlighted[i].T.x < leftmost.T.x then leftmost = G.hand.highlighted[i] end end
            for i=1, #G.hand.highlighted do
                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after',delay = 0.1,func = function()
                    if G.hand.highlighted[i] ~= rightmost then
                        rightmost:set_ability(G.P_CENTERS[leftmost.config.center.key],nil,true)
                    end
                    return true end }))
            end
        for i=1, #G.hand.highlighted do
            local percent = 0.85 + (i-0.999)/(#G.hand.highlighted-0.998)*0.3
            G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after',delay = 0.15,func = function() G.hand.highlighted[i]:flip();play_sound('tarot2', percent, 0.6);G.hand.highlighted[i]:juice_up(0.3, 0.3);return true end }))
        end
        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after', delay = 0.2,func = function() G.hand:unhighlight_all(); return true end }))
        delay(0.5)

[brazen tusk]

i think they do have to be different

put j in

like this

[vocal cedar]

fun coding idea

[gentle rain]

yeah same error

[vocal cedar]

ebvery time i try to reference a nil value

i take a shot

[vocal cedar]

LMAO

that

[umbral zodiac]

works now, tysm 🙏

[brazen tusk]

LMAO

[gentle rain]

yyyyyyyurp

we have fun here

[brazen tusk]

ok well its not gonna hurt keeping it as j, that means its a problem with the logic OR

theres a typo

[gentle rain]

considering i copy-pasted from the working one i do not think theres a typo

[sonic cedar]

hey so what's a break end for? i havent had to use it yet so i possess no knowledge

[gentle rain]

would it be easier if i annotated it gel\

[brazen tusk]

i get the gist but it would be helpful yeah

[normal crest]

break exits the for loop

[sonic cedar]

oh it’s literal

[normal crest]

the end is just from the if

[sonic cedar]

i mean i had a GUESS i didn’t expect it to be exactly that though

[chrome widget]

Got all my spectrals finished!!

[rugged pier]

any idea? 😭

[normal crest]

context.discard is called once for every card discarded

[sonic cedar]

so the table insert gave me an index error when i tried to score one of the cards

[rugged pier]

what context should i be using to check for atleast 3 face cards being discarded?

[brazen tusk]

context.pre_discard iirc

oh wait

read that wrong

catastrophic blunder

[rugged pier]

i am looping through every card discarded to increment a local variable that counts each face card so i think i do need context.discard?
but i need to only upgrade the joker once

[paper zealot]

Art looks fantastic. Stone Mask and Mood Indigo seem super useful, the other two... less so. Do you have other mechanics for making Perishable and Rental useful?

[shell timber]

ichor seems useful

[sonic cedar]

here's what i have in the configuration, did i mess up setting the table up? was i also supposed to add brackets to the return?

[brazen tusk]

how often is it able to trigger?

[rugged pier]

wdym? like the joker?

[brazen tusk]

yeah

[manic rune]

isnt "card" the joker itself though

[sonic cedar]

ill do it again so you can see the error

[rugged pier]

the idea is that joker adds +variable amount of chips to every hand and gets upgraded by 20 chips everytime 3 or more face cards are discarded at once

[normal crest]

try pre_discard

[rugged pier]

will it loop over every card to increment my variable?

[brazen tusk]

ohh i see

[normal crest]

pre_discard looks like it's called once before discarding

with the hand to be discarded in context.full_hand

[chrome widget]

Part of the benefit of perishable is that it allows you to remove an Eternal Joker if you need. Adding Polychrome is useful just because Polychrome is super good late game

[normal crest]

so try it out

[manic rune]

yeah do

so

[rugged pier]

okok checking

[manic rune]

whats "card" here?

[chrome widget]

Otherwise the Perishable/Foil combo is definitely the weakest, and we've considered swapping to Eternal/Foil and Perishable/Holographic

[manic rune]

if "card" refers to the playing card, then card.ability.extra... no longer refers to the joker config

[sonic cedar]

ohhhhh

[rugged pier]

WAIT THAT WORKED THANK YOU SO MUCH

[brazen tusk]

w!

[chrome widget]

Personally I think Foil is better mid-game than Holographic is, which is why I associated it with Perishable (which is slightly more of a downgrade than Eternal)

[sonic cedar]

wait then how the heck do i get the joker ability in there

[gentle rain]

i cut out everything before calculate because it isnt necessary to understand the process

[brazen tusk]

ill take a gander

[manic rune]

just

refer to the playing card as something else

like, "v" or smt

whats the entire code?

[rustic pilot]

is there any documentation on balatro modding or do i just have to skim source code to find out how to do what i want?

[manic rune]

#1349064230825103441

[sonic cedar]

if context.before and context.cardarea == G.jokers then
            for _, card in ipairs(G.playing_cards) do
                if card:get_id() == 2 or card:get_id() == 3 or card:get_id() == 4 or card:get_id() == 5 then
                    table.insert(card.ability.extra.played_cards, card)
                end
            end
        end

[rustic pilot]

thankyou!

[manic rune]

yeah uh

use for _,v instead

or just anything else that isnt card

.

wait

[manic rune]

you are supposed to run the loop through context.scoring_hand...

[paper zealot]

OH, it deletes Eternals. That's possibly even more useful than Stone Mask, then. Awesome

[chrome widget]

Yeah it overwrites Eternal since Perishable and Eternal technically can't (or aren't supposed to) coexist

[sonic cedar]

i forgot to…. change it….

[chrome widget]

I wish there was a better way to ensure support for modded stickers, but without any property clarifying the positioning/space of a sticker other than the atlas, for now it just supports vanilla stickers

[sonic cedar]

        if context.before and context.cardarea == G.jokers then
            for _, kard in ipairs(context.scoring_hand) do
                if kard:get_id() == 2 or kard:get_id() == 3 or kard:get_id() == 4 or kard:get_id() == 5 then
                    table.insert(card.ability.extra.played_cards, kard)
                end
            end
        end

[manic rune]

the joker is card, not kard

💔

[chrome widget]

WAIT I SAID SEALS ON THE DESCRIPTIONS INSTEAD OF STICKERS AAAAAAAAAAA

fixing

[sonic cedar]

I SAID IGNORE IT YOU

[errant fulcrum]

Guess I needed to add a delay(0.2) after applying the enhancement

[brazen tusk]

am i right in understanding that the last two things are essentially updating the card list visually based on what was removed?

[sonic cedar]

moment of truth 2

[gentle rain]

thats right

[sonic cedar]

it works thank you bepis

again 😭

[brazen tusk]

in here just put 1 and see what it outputs

[gentle rain]

same crash, trying to index on line 294 table.insert(combination, card.ability.extra.card_list[j].base.value)

[brazen tusk]

nil value?

[gentle rain]

mhm

[manic rune]

np :D

[gentle rain]

what i AM able to do is putting table.concat (table.remove(card.ability.extra.ranks [...] rather than card.ability.extra.combination = table.concat(combination without any error EXCEPT that it displays 14 instead of ace

i tried using some math functions to make it return 1 instead of ace but math functions dont work on tables like that of course

[brazen tusk]

i'd honestly just exclude ace for that reason which, goes against the theme a little but it isnt quite a 1 anyway

[sonic cedar]

had to add you in the credits atp with how much youve saved my ass

[brazen tusk]

oh

is this actually resetting it? bc its ' ' in the config

[brazen tusk]

^ might be a very dumb question but sometimes those solve things lmao

[gentle rain]

wait omg true

[brazen tusk]

its in a few places as well

well, one other place

[gentle rain]

ohhh thats because the config variable is different from the local variable, the former being a value and the latter being a table

[brazen tusk]

oohhh

[gentle rain]

yeah ok i give up lmfao im just excluding aces n calling it a day

[brazen tusk]

one more potentially stupid question

[gentle rain]

yeah?

[brazen tusk]

is it removing the value from the list or is it removing the list bc, if theres no list then that would explain it giving a nil value

but ik youve done that in other places so

probably not that

[gentle rain]

its removing the value in position i

[brazen tusk]

ohhh its the name then pos i see

instead of resetting it then adding the remaining could you remove removed?
maybe not if they dont exist but worth suggesting

[gentle rain]

that wouldnt work i dont think because extra.combination is a value not a table

i could rework it to have the combination read out a table instead of turning a table into a variable but

its midnight

and i got a functional joker

less that its late and more that ive been at this for like 8 hours straight now

[brazen tusk]

fair enough lol gn!

[gentle rain]

gn and tysm for the help

[brazen tusk]

np, im not all that knowledgeable but bouncing ideas can help

[gentle rain]

it is very very useful

:]

[errant fulcrum]

I'm trying to make a reverse strength that decreases card ranks but I don't know how to get it to wrap around for 2s

[midnight coyote]

margret thatcher joker

[modern kindle]

Ding dong

[manic rune]

go back to Aces

[modern kindle]

Beeppiiisss

[manic rune]

hi dilly :3

[modern kindle]

How goes life

[tall wharf]

do you play maimai

[manic rune]

it is very fine, thank you kind sir

hbu?

[tall wharf]

I'm so cooked

[manic rune]

aiko stop cooking

you are cooking urself 😭

[tall wharf]

I'm getting cooked

[modern kindle]

I did so little development wise today so I feel a little guilty about that but otherwise I'm living life well

[tall wharf]

i just asked someone if they played maimai i think I'm actually cooked

[tall wharf]

development resumes tomorrow

[modern kindle]

I did my talisman compat the last couple of days so I've just been vibing

[manic rune]

:3 does playing a ripoff version of maimai count

[modern kindle]

I've still gotta make some stuff work with and without talisman though
But that's a problem for tomorrow me

[tall wharf]

what the fuck

[manic rune]

icic, u should prioritize your life quality over everything, so its good to know that :3

[tall wharf]

i couldn't even 100%

[manic rune]

i know that song but i don't know the english name for ot

💔

[modern kindle]

I have no idea what that us

Is

[manic rune]

im into a lot of music types :3

[brazen tusk]

rhythm arcade game

[modern kindle]

Oic

I'm very bad at rhythm games

[tall wharf]

Kyuu Kurarin

[modern kindle]

I can clear just about every guitar hero song ever on medium though 😎

[tall wharf]

I'll keep posting this shit until i actually added

math deck

[manic rune]

guitar hero looks cool, theres an arcade ripoff of that in my supermarket

but i have never seen it being turned on before

;(

[modern kindle]

I actually bought guitar hero 3 for my wii

I need to get world tour soon

[midnight coyote]

i do play maimai!!!

[narrow iron]

where can i find the different value that "context" can be?

[tall wharf]

i tried playing maimai im bad at it

[midnight coyote]

i’m really good at it

[manic rune]

the calculate section in smods documentation

[narrow iron]

thank you

[rustic pilot]

after scoring i want to randomly pick one pair to destroy while the other is copied to the deck, but im not sure how

rn all it does is copy every card in the two pair immediately after scoring

[tall wharf]

omg how do people get good at this

[midnight coyote]

its reaction time

mostly

[tall wharf]

I'm cooked i can't

[brazen tusk]

how is this kind of small text added?

[manic rune]

{s:0.5}text{}

[brazen tusk]

ty!

[manic rune]

you can add multiple uhh thingies, like

{s:0.5,C:inactive}this text is gray and small{}

[tall wharf]

I'm cooked

[forest ivy]

what if i will make word 'world' using letters in ur mod

🤔

[narrow iron]

any idea why this tag isnt triggering? it should trigger before scoring happens after playing a hand

    if context.before then
      tag:yep("+", G.C.Mult, function(self)
      return {
      mult = card.ability.extra.mult
      }
    end )
    tag.trigger = true
    end 
end```

[daring fern]

How could one make a joker not shake when giving xmult for a card?

[chrome widget]

Hmm I'm wondering how best to order this

Off the top of their heads, does anyone know when gold seals give money for playing cards? Is it before they score their chips or after?

I'm not at my computer and just finding footage of gold seals is Not Easy apparently

[daring fern]

After the card scores its chips.

[chrome widget]

Ugh, damn

I have a joker that makes it so Blue and Purple seals trigger on scoring, but the way it's set up now results in them activating before the card's chip score, which bugs me

[shell tangle]

I haven't looked at tags, so maybe there's something weird with names or tags don't have a calculate, but I'd say it's likely because that's an apply function, not a calculate function.

[shell tangle]

Which context are you using?

[narrow iron]

sadly not the case

[chrome widget]

context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play

[narrow iron]

context.main_scoring and context.cardarea == G.play is what you should use there i think

[shell tangle]

No, use other_card, let me double check which context I'm thinking of,

[chrome widget]

Ideally, I'd want this effect to run after every other regular chip/mult/money effect scoring (since there's no precedent for it in vanilla)

[shell tangle]

But it's the same thing as the +3 mult suit jokers, that'd work, right?

[shell tangle]

If you want that, then you'd want to use a context.after check and iterate through the cards yourself.

[chrome widget]

But that would be after the entire effect table for the entire hand, not just after per card scoring

[shell tangle]

I think it'd be best to just have it as the jokers, that should be the right context, can you show the full bit of code?

[chrome widget]

But yeah you're right, this is primarily used for enhancement effects

[shell tangle]

Also, as I'm unfamiliar with tags, give me a few minutes to read up and I'll get to you if I figure something out.

[narrow iron]

thank you

[narrow iron]

i hope it works out

[shell tangle]

It seems to be because tags use a different context system, you can see the types of tags in P_TAGS under Game:init_item_prototype in game.lua, it uses :apply_to_run to call tags, but shares that with decks, so you can search it, but you'll have to double check to see if it's being called on a tag or a back - other than that, you can search up the types present in P_TAGS and see where those are and if any of those work; else, write a lovely patch for a new tag:apply_to_run context.

[spice scroll]

anyone happen to know why this isnt working? its supposed to turn a card held in hand into a steel card after you win with a fire score

[narrow iron]

ahhh i see, i was really hoping to not have to learn lovely

ig thats what im doing tho

[rose dragon]

how can i check if someone elses mod is installed without setting it as a dependency?

[shell tangle]

Logic seems fine to me, maybe sprinkle in some sendDebugMessage()s to figure out where it's getting cut off at and figure out what's going on with the values.

[spice scroll]

will try that out

[shell tangle]

It's easy, still just lua, find a target line that's unique in the file you want to change, decide if you want your code to come before, after, or replace it with "at", and then put your code in the payload.

[spice scroll]

one of my fav arts for this mod too

[daring fern]

SMODS.find_mod(modid)

[rose dragon]

thx

[spice scroll]

ok it seems like this line isnt triggering for whatever reason then hm

is it that i cant just say "rand_card" to check if it exists?

[shell tangle]

If it's the second debug message, print out sendDebugMessage(hand_chips) and repeat that for the other variables you're checking for to see which one has an issue.

You'll probably need to throw rand_card into a tostring() as it's a table, or you could use inspect or inspectDepth to see it list every contained value.

[spice scroll]

im p confident that part should work but ill double check

where should it be a string?

[shell tangle]

It'd be sendDebugMessage(tostring(rand_card)).

[spice scroll]

gotcha

[vast fractal]

can I info_queue a boss blind like
info_queue[#info_queue+1] = G.P_CENTERS.bl_watsau_final_distorted_fate

or do i need to make a tooltip?

[spice scroll]

oh ok yeah that's nil

so why is it nil

hm

[shell tangle]

Remove the return in the thing where it sets the rand_card.

[spice scroll]

still nil

could it be because im declaring the rand_card outside of that block?

hm

[shell tangle]

Set local rand_card = {}.

[spice scroll]

imma test that hypothesis first rq

[shell tangle]

It's not, if you declare a local, then it's local to the block - and if you have the local inside of the if block, then it can't be used outside of it.

[spice scroll]

yeah its resetting when it shifts code blocks

because i set the local first thing in the calculate block

so i think the calculate block runs again and resets it

[shell tangle]

Ah, right, very obvious, it's getting set to blank every single time calculate is called. Store it in your joker's config so it doesn't get overwritten.

[spice scroll]

already on it

thanks for the help though

(assuming it doesnt immediately crash right after i do this)

[shell tangle]

I think I've seen it done before, I don't remember where, but, I think @zealous glen has a bit more experience than me when it comes to info_queues.

[narrow iron]

so im injecting code with lovely, it should go right after if context.before then in card.lua. right now im just injecting print('runs') to test if its working properly but it isnt printing anything

[shell tangle]

Can you send the lovely file?

[narrow iron]

version = "1.0.0"
dump_lua = true
priority = 0

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = "if context.before then"
position = "after"
payload = '''
    print('runs')
'''
match_indent = true
overwrite = false```

[shell tangle]

That appears to be located in "card:calculate_joker", which is a weird place for it,

[narrow iron]

im not really sure where else would work

[shell tangle]

functions/state_events.lua, there's a nice -- TARGET: effects before scoring starts line for you to set as your pattern, and you can look it in the code - it's the part that actually send the calculate call.

[narrow iron]

i completely forgot to check the files that arent in the main directory 🤦

[shell tangle]

Just in case, the -- TARGET: effects before scoring starts is only in the lovely/dump files, you won't be able to search for it if you're only using the unmodified source code.

Oh, also, should probably just be payload = '''print('runs')'''.

[narrow iron]

yea at the time it was right after an if statement so i wasnt sure if it needed to be indented or not

[shell tangle]

The match_indent usually takes care of that setting, but if you had three lines, then it'd be like,

payload = '''if a then
    print('b')
end'''

[narrow iron]

the changes i make should appear in lovely/dump after i run balatro right?

[shell tangle]

Correct, and it'll say in the console if it couldn't find the target line.

[narrow iron]

it works now, thank you so much for the help

[daring fern]

How does one check if a joker is rental?

[shell tangle]

I think it's just stored in card.ability.rental unless SMODS changes something?

[dusty fiber]

that shit looks heat (queer)

[narrow iron]

i can get a tag to trigger before any cards scoring after playing a hand, but i have no idea how to make it actually change the current mult or chips

[marble flint]

I did a similar thing in Bakery, lemme check how i did it rq

oh right i did a bunch of hot trash

[narrow iron]

ive added a custom context for the tags, and it works, so i added the tag into tag.lua where it checks and runs the tags, which also works. but i have no idea how to make the code in tag.lua change the current scoring values

elseif _context.type == 'before' then
  print('runs')
  if self.name == 'Lesser Mult Tag' then
    self:yep('+', G.C.Mult, function()
      return true
    end)
    self.triggered = true
    return {
      mult = self.config.extra.mult
    }
end```

this thing with the return doesnt work here

[marble flint]

what i'm doing is not this, but you might be able to SMODS.calculate_effect() it at the appropriate moment

[narrow iron]

omg thats it

its always some command that was mentioned once extremely briefly i swear

[marble flint]

my current method is changing the return value of the boss blind's modifications which is not correct and i should change it kjlasdhgkladsfg

but it works, so

[narrow iron]

version = "1.0.0"
dump_lua = true
priority = 0

#triggering custom tags
[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "functions/state_events.lua"
pattern = '''
mult, hand_chips = mod_mult(mult), mod_chips(hand_chips)
'''
position = "after"
payload = '''
for i = 1, #G.GAME.tags do
    G.GAME.tags[i]:apply_to_run({type = 'before'})
end
'''
match_indent = true
overwrite = false

#adding customm tags functions

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "tag.lua"
pattern = "elseif _context.type == 'immediate' then "
position = "before"
payload = '''
elseif _context.type == 'before' then
    print('runs')
    if self.name == 'Lesser Mult Tag' then
        self:yep('+', G.C.Mult, function()
            return true
        end)
        self.triggered = true
        SMODS.calculate_effect({mult = self.config.extra.mult}, self)
        return true
    end
'''
match_indent = true
overwrite = false```

this is what i used if you think it'd help you

just replace "Lesser Mult Tag" with your tags name

[zealous glen]

That feature has been implemented, by Baliame IIRC, but it just displays name and text like other tooltips. I had previously manually implemented a Boss Blind tooltip directly

[marble flint]

i prefer my own approach which lets me just write a calculate function on the smods definition

[narrow iron]

fair

[marble flint]

in my mod it'd just be this:

SMODS.Tag {
    key = "LesserMultTag",
    config = {
        mult = 5
    },
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, tag)
        return {
            vars = {self.config.mult}
        }
    end,
    apply = function(self, tag, context)
        if not tag.triggered and context.type == 'Bakery_play_hand_early' then
            return {
                mult = self.config.mult,
                after = function()
                    tag:yep('X', G.C.RED, function()
                        return true
                    end)
                end
            }
        end
    end
}

(and my mod can be used as a dependency to do it like this)

[lethal ridge]

What do you guys think

If a debuffed card is played, score it anyway and +10 mult

If a card is played, debuff it for the rest of the round

[manic rune]

good morning everyone

[lethal ridge]

Hello sir

[manic rune]

probably too underwhelming when its a staple of the build

like, the moment you sell that joker, all the debuffed cards cant be used

i suggest going for the XMult/XChips instead

[lethal ridge]

Okay then

Thanks for the suggestion

Also is there any good resources to read about draw step other than documentation and source code

[manic rune]

mhm

[lethal ridge]

They are so confusin

[shell tangle]

Rest of round? How does this work? You score it, then it's considered played, and then you can't use it because you played it that round, so it's no longer in your deck?

[manic rune]

probably check mods which use DrawStep, i think Victin's issac-inspired joker uses it

[lethal ridge]

Oh right

[lethal ridge]

Thanks

I didn't think about that

[lethal ridge]

Thank youu

I hope i can finish my soulpos thing today

[manic rune]

also, i think this joker should also have some benefits on its own too, like

If a card is played, debuff it, and increase Mult by +10
(Currently: +0 Mult)

else it has no other purposes if you aren't going for the joker above, and risky if you don't already have it

[lethal ridge]

Thanks for the suggestion

I will also add that

[manic rune]

np :3

[lethal ridge]

@manic rune how would I add third layer of soul position

[vocal cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-gif-14663292704966997212

[manic rune]

Victin did that for their joker

idk how myself

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1343670935122870342

check their mod's code, and see how its done

[manic rune]

we normalize the silliness of :3 around here :3

[lethal ridge]

Been reading other people's code but I cant figure nothing

[lethal ridge]

Wait which one

Im checking it right now

Ahh lagg

It's so laggy

My discord just had a insane lag spike

[manic rune]

the joker which is based on the binding of issac, i don't remember its exact name sorry

[lethal ridge]

Okay

[narrow iron]

how can i add custom tags to the info queue on a card?

[lethal ridge]

I chekc the github code

There's nothing about the drawstep things

In the isaac joker thing

[manic rune]

oh, really?

[lethal ridge]

Yea sadly

[manic rune]

it uses multiple soul layers, so i thought it uses drawstep

[lethal ridge]

There isn't any soulpos on it too

[manic rune]

yeah, i dont think it uses soul_pos

they manually rendered sprites on it

[lethal ridge]

Wait

It said that

Last commit was like 8 months ago

[manic rune]

-# huh

[lethal ridge]

The joker's atlas doesn't even contain the sprite too

So maybe it's just old code but Idk where the new one is

.

Ok im going to do this

[lethal ridge]

Ok I found the new one

[coral flume]

Hello everyone, just started getting into modding balatro and have been told the discord was the best place for this :)

[lethal ridge]

Have fun modding

[coral flume]

thank you!

[manic rune]

hii, i suggest checking #1349064230825103441 if thats the case! :3

[lethal ridge]

@manic rune
soul_pos = { x = 0, y = 1 },

set_ability = function(self, card, initial, delay_sprites)
    if self.discovered or card.bypass_discovery_center then
        card.T.w = card.T.w * (custom_width / 71)
        card.children.floating_sprite.T.w = card.children.floating_sprite.T.w * (custom_width / 71)
    end
end,

set_sprites = function(self, card, front)
    if self.discovered or card.bypass_discovery_center then
        card.children.center.scale.x = card.children.center.scale.x
        card.children.floating_sprite.scale.x = card.children.floating_sprite.scale.x --* (custom_width / 71)
    end
end,

load = function(self, card, card_table, other_card)
    if self.discovered or card.bypass_discovery_center then
        card.T.w = card.T.w * (custom_width / 71)
        --card.children.floating_sprite.T.w = card.children.floating_sprite.T.w * (custom_width / 71)
    end
end,

I have found victins code

[manic rune]

nice :D

[rose dragon]

returning true on the debuff_hand function in the blind on the newest version of steamodded crashes the game, is there a reason for this?

[lethal ridge]

What is card?

The joker card?

[manic rune]

mhm

[rose dragon]

main.lua:1837: functions/state_events.lua:798: attempt to compare table with number
Stack Traceback
===============
(1) Lua upvalue 'orig' at file 'main.lua:612'
        Local variables:
         msg = string: "main.lua:1837: functions/state_events.lua:798: attempt to compare table with number"
         (*temporary) = Lua function '?' (defined at line 31 of chunk [SMODS _ "src/logging.lua"])
         (*temporary) = string: "Oops! The game crashed\
"
(2) Lua local 'handler' at file 'debugplus/console.lua:576' (from lovely module debugplus.console)
        Local variables:
         msg = string: "main.lua:1837: functions/state_events.lua:798: attempt to compare table with number"

[plush cove]

heya! so I have this code for a Joker that's supposed to give you Xmult if you have a certain amount of unique Jokers

but for some reason it just is not working, and always displays as 0 even when I've accumulated a number of unique Jokers in a run

can someone help with this?

[heady siren]

How would I go about making an enhancement unable to be overridden by jokers or tarot cards without just straight up editing the code of the jokers or tarot cards?

[shell timber]

chat is this good

[heady siren]

I'm using an enhancement to consider a card sleeved, which destroys it at the end of the round, and if you change the enhancement mid-blind it doesn't destroy the card, which is an issue

[heady siren]

I feel like the pink-ish red is way too saturated

And I say that as a huge fan of that specific color

[shell timber]

i hear you but it needs to be that specific colour

[heady siren]

Why does it need to be?

Also, how do I add new colors for descriptions and effects? If I can

[plush cove]

i just added a separate tally

idk why # didn't work anymore though

[vagrant moth]

How do I make it so when I get this Joker in the shop or booster packs, it's always Foil?

I currently use the code

  set_ability = function(self, card, initial, delay_sprites)
    card:set_edition({foil = true}, true)
  end```
It only applies in the Collection view, but not the actual game. What should I add or change?

[shell timber]

check how cryptid does its planet jokers

Universe etc.

[uncut grail]

does anybody know all the steamodded colors for formatting?

didn't find those specified anywhere

[forest ivy]

{C:attention} 🟡 Yellow Used for important keywords
{C:money} 🟢 Green Used for dollar amounts ($)
{C:mult} 🔴 Red Used for multipliers (x2, x5)
{C:chips} 🔵 Blue Used for chip values
{C:red} 🔴 Red Generic red text
{C:green} 🟢 Green Generic green text
{C:blue} 🔵 Blue Generic blue text
{C:dark_edition} 🟣 Purple Used for special card editions
{C:spectral} ⚪ White (or glowing effect) Used for spectral-related effects
{C:clovers} 🍀 Green Used for Clover buffs
{C:voucher} 🟠 Orange Used for Voucher-related text
{C:stars} ✨ Gold Used for celestial-related bonuses

these should be real but im not sure

at least most of them 🔥

[uncut grail]

tysm! is this such a common thing that everybody has this message ready on command LOL

[vast fractal]

Ctrl + F the source code

[forest ivy]

nope more complicated way

[vast fractal]

also search color in #💻・modding-dev

[forest ivy]

thats why i said im not 100% sure

[maiden phoenix]

Some are wrong 😬

[shell timber]

what's clovers?

or stars?

[uncut grail]

what's a star? can you eat it?

[forest ivy]

no idea smh

[uncut grail]

thanks for these, though!

[heady siren]

Can you make your own colors?

[uncut grail]

pretty sure you can just type in hex values

[plush cove]

    set_ability = function(self, card, initial, delay_sprites)
        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
            func = function()
                card:set_edition({ foil = true }, true)
                return true
            end
        }))
    end,```

@vagrant moth try this out

[heady siren]

Is it just straight up putting in hex or do I need to run a function?

[uncut grail]

im pretty new to this, so i wouldn't ask myself

but probably

boop found the message

[shell timber]

you can do G.ARGS.LOC_COLOURS["whatever"] = HEX("123fff") i'm pretty sure

[rose dragon]

bump

[tall wharf]

i am about to collapse dude

i hate tuesday

[forest ivy]

so

{C:red}
{C:mult}
{C:blue}
{C:chips}
{C:green}
{C:money}
{C:gold}
{C:attention}
{C:purple}
{C:white}
{C:inactive}
{C:spades}
{C:hearts}
{C:clubs}
{C:diamonds}
{C:tarot}
{C:planet}
{C:spectral}
{C:edition}
{C:dark_edition}
{C:legendary}
{C:enhanced}

[uncut grail]

does anybody know where the smods source code contains the code that adds the sticker page in collection?

[uncut grail]

yup! cool shit

[zealous glen]

are you ok

[tall wharf]

no'

like actually

no

[zealous glen]

What's up?

work?

[tall wharf]

2 lab classes in one day

[zealous glen]

ah, study

Good luck

what kind of lab

[tall wharf]

physics an chemistry

[zealous glen]

I see

[tall wharf]

at least i am done with physics one this week so

[zealous glen]

I think engineering physics lab classes involved measuring a table dozens of times

[tall wharf]

i am not doing engineering

this one more or less involves electricity

[uncut grail]

nevermind actually

[tall wharf]

ill work a bit on math deck and collapse on my bed tonight

[zealous glen]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-iroh-uncle-lightning-power-gif-19724937

aikoyiroh

[tall wharf]

i have to do tritration for chem lab next week

[zealous glen]

I have no idea what that is

is that like tetration

[heady siren]

This happens when I do that

[tall wharf]

no

[shell timber]

uh

[tall wharf]

i was gonna reply earlier but i accidentally quit discord and had to repatch the thing

[plush cove]

yo this new Discord UI sucks 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[heady siren]

I just put this in my main lua file, do I need to do anything more to make it work?

[primal robin]

Yay new shit UI update no one ever asked 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[tall wharf]

this just gives me claustrophobia

[heady siren]

Do I gotta put this shit in a while #G.ARGS.LOC_COLOURS <= 0?

[tall wharf]

in any case

[tall wharf]

i was gonna say

to put simply

you drop shit with exact concentration in another shit of unknown concentration

and look at when colour changes

then do a bunch of calculation n shit

i hate it

[red flower]

you need to do it like this
https://github.com/nh6574/JoyousSpring/blob/3769cadd5829031a465db2ff24fe69e2c881129a/src/globals.lua#L28

[vocal cedar]

take a shot

[heady siren]

Thank god I don't drink

[manic rune]

wheres my mod...

[tall wharf]

find it

[plush cove]

THE MIST IS COMING

[tall wharf]

for the sake of it

[manic rune]

:3

jesus you follow a lot of threads

this is everything im following rn

[primal robin]

I treat this like having billion of tabs in browser

[vagrant moth]

IT WORKS THANK YOU

[rose dragon]

bump Again!

[heady siren]

Looked up how to create hooks in lua, seems like this worked

[native zinc]

any way to give existing jokers stickers?

[plush cove]

card.ability.eternal = true

card.ability.perishable = true

etc etc

[native zinc]

oh wait hey astrapboy

[plush cove]

[native zinc]

. ig tc is in its balatro era

lmao

[plush cove]

anyways

which sticker did you want?

[native zinc]

rental actually

[plush cove]

card.ability.rental = true

[native zinc]

i assume it's just card.ability.rental yeah

[coral flume]

Heya guys, ran into my first issue. during the before step, I want a joker to lose 1 mult for each card played. I've tried a few ways but they all seem pretty not work or crash the game lol

I tried making a different check for each handsize context but that didnt work, is there maybe a way to have a var set to the handsize?

[manic rune]

can u show me the code? i can probably help with that

[manic rune]

how does the code look like rn

-# do note that i barely worked with blinds, so no guarantee i can solve ur issue :(

[heady siren]

Still wanna find a solution to this

[coral flume]

Sorry its nightmarish

[manic rune]

dear god

[native zinc]

oh god

reads like source /j

[coral flume]

Hey, in my defense I joined an hour ago

[manic rune]

yeah uh

i think all of those if statements are unnecessary

[heady siren]

card.ability.extra.sub_mult = #context.full_hand [=

[heady siren]

Please for the love of god

[manic rune]

card.ability.extra.sub_mult = #G.play.cards

[coral flume]

You can make contexts into numbers?

[manic rune]

its a table

[native zinc]

yes

[coral flume]

I didnt know that sorry

[manic rune]

# returns how many keys the table has

[native zinc]

length of table is #table

[manic rune]

sorry

[heady siren]

This would be held in hand

[manic rune]

oh crap

its play

[heady siren]

Play doesn't include all played I don't believe

[manic rune]

it does

[heady siren]

Only scored

[manic rune]

im pretty sure it does, weird

lemme check

[rose dragon]

works perfectly fine and the preview does too until you press Play Hand, and only crashes if it returns true
-# fyi im adding exclusive content to my mod for compatible content mods which is why im using some of aikos stuff since that's the current mod im working on

local w = ""
for _,c in pairs(hand) do
  w=w..string.lower(c.ability.aikoyori_letters_stickers)
end
for _,uw in pairs(KMOD.played_words) do
  if uw==w then
    return true
  end
end
return false

[coral flume]

Gods appeased?

[frosty dock]

G.play.cards is the same as context.full_hand

[heady siren]

Okay so it'd be context.full_hand, good to know

[manic rune]

power is currently out :3

[coral flume]

Thank you all so much, it works

[manic rune]

doesnt recalc_debuff run through every single card though?

i dont think you need a table

-# wait, forgot ur using debuff_hand, let me check

[manic rune]

yeah uh, its not the return true thats wrong, its the uw == w part

i dont have any knowledge regarding what those are, but one of them is a table while the other is a number

as long as you fix that, it should work

[rose dragon]

w is a string and KMOD.played_words is a table of strings

[manic rune]

can you try printing "w" and "uw" separately

im pretty sure uw is still a table (and a card too)

[rose dragon]

calc hook code btw

local calc_hook = SMODS.calculate_context

    function SMODS.calculate_context(context, return_table)
        local x = calc_hook(context, return_table)

        if G.GAME.letters_enabled and G.GAME.aiko_current_word then
            local word = G.GAME.aiko_current_word
            
            if not word then return {} end
            word = string.lower(word)
            local lowerword = string.lower(word)
            word = string.gsub(" " .. word, "%W%l", string.upper):sub(2)

            if context.before then
                table.insert(KMOD.played_words, string.lower(word))
            end
        end
        
        return x
    end

[manic rune]

im assuming the first one is "w" while the second one is "uw"?

[rose dragon]

yea

[manic rune]

...hm

ah, but also, remember to use ipairs for the (hand) for loop

just for safety, i still have memories about for pairs loop going through the keys randomly in luau, i heard its not the same in lua butttt better be safe than sorry :3

[rose dragon]

nothing changed

[manic rune]

yeah its not supposed to fix the crash itself

just to make sure "w" is added properly

[humble girder]

aaaaaa

[manic rune]

hi baliame

[rose dragon]

?

[humble girder]

a aaa

[rose dragon]

aaa aaa

[humble girder]

aa aaa

[manic rune]

like, if the keys r chosen randomly

if you play A C E, "w" can return E A C

[rose dragon]

yea but they're the same? how would this fix the crash?

[manic rune]

like i said - thats just to make sure when the crash is fixed, it will work properly

im confused though, why is it that "w" is seen as a number

[rose dragon]

here's the code that the error mentions btw, i don't get how this would still brick the game though

[manic rune]

actually, just realized something wrong with this

if not word then return {} end i think that will completely stop SMODS.calculate_effect from running too

[rose dragon]

oh

i didn't notice that

[manic rune]

take it with a grain of salt though, im not that good with hooks but it does look like so

[rose dragon]

still bricks the game

[manic rune]

and uhhh, whats with
word = string.gsub(""..word,... smt smt?

[rose dragon]

copied from aikos mod

from the maxwells notebook joker

[manic rune]

:3 god im bad at working with mod-exclusive stuff

can you replace uw == w with true rq, i want to make sure its the comparison thats breaking

[rose dragon]

nah that's not the problem it crashes even if it is always true

[manic rune]

:3 damn

probably not the blind's code itself then

i should probably ask aikoyori themselves for this

[rose dragon]

meh still stops you from playing the hand anyways so it works in my book 👍

[manic rune]

they should know their mod better than anyone else

@tall wharf

arise :3

[manic rune]

change it to "Repeated words will crash your game", problem solved ❤️

[tall wharf]

I'm fucking crying

[tall wharf]

are you making a cross mod content for my mod

[rose dragon]

yea

[tall wharf]

i think there's a G.GAME.current_word

[rose dragon]

this?

[tall wharf]

I'm exhausted today

[rose dragon]

i saw it in the maxwells notebook code

[tall wharf]

yeah

[rose dragon]

still crashes the game which is why i changed it but i was too lazy to change it back

[tall wharf]

i spent half an hour troubleshooting

a nested mod folder problem

have you updated the release

[rose dragon]

the release of aikos tomfoolery or smokemodded?

[tall wharf]

mine

[uncut grail]

am i applying the rainbow text effect right?

for some reason gives me an error

[rose dragon]

you good?

[manic rune]

nope

[tall wharf]

no

[manic rune]

{C:dark_edition} will make ur text change color like Negative

[tall wharf]

i am especially not okay today

[manic rune]

not V:1

i hope u get well soon aiko :(

[uncut grail]

oh okay, thanks!

[manic rune]

transferring my energy to u through bluetooth 🖐️

[uncut grail]

hope you're gonna be doing especially okay (and above okay if possible) tommorow, then!

[manic rune]

getting well resumes tomorrow

[tall wharf]

I'm so fucking done I want to just somersault my way back to my room

[manic rune]

-# ur computer is not in ur room?

[tall wharf]

I'm outside, bepis

[rose dragon]

now this shit does nothing
did you change the current_word/aikoyori_letters_stickers api?

[tall wharf]

yes

[manic rune]

ohhhhh

[tall wharf]

i changed it

[manic rune]

i thought u r on ur computer rn, sorry

[rose dragon]

LIAR
balatro modders CANNOT go outside

[tall wharf]

lab classes

i already mentioned that

[rose dragon]

which one or both?

[tall wharf]

i changed a bunch of variables

I'll give better api later

[rose dragon]

api or docs?

[tall wharf]

api

it's not stable yet

I'll work on it

[frosty dock]

😭

[tall wharf]

hello aure

how are you doing

[frosty dock]

doing good, ty. how about you?

[rose dragon]

alr
ima hit the sack and try to fix my shitty code in the morning
i wouldn't be surprised if it was just smods and not aikos frolicsomeness
-# crazy thesaurus pull

[tall wharf]

Very tired

[frosty dock]

idk what part of the smods api you think is shitty 💀

[rose dragon]

the majority of it
(blinds to be specific because returning true CRASHES MY GAME 😡)

[frosty dock]

wha-

[rose dragon]

video of it here

[manic rune]

-# john "aure" smods will rememberthis.

sushang :3

[wintry arch]

sus hang !!!

[uncut grail]

how can i check if i have more than one consumable?

[manic rune]

if #G.consumeables.cards > 1 then

[uncut grail]

i'm either using the steamodded wiki wrong or it's super hard to find stuff there

LOL

[manic rune]

this is balatro source code stuff

:3

[uncut grail]

so what is #G, anyway?

[manic rune]

you know what # does already, right?

[uncut grail]

mmmmmaybe

[manic rune]

G.consumeables refers to the consumeables area
G.consumeables.cards refers to the table containing the actual consumables

[manic rune]

putting # behind a table will refer to how many keys the table has, basically

[uncut grail]

no yeah i get it, just like, is G the base balatro values object?

[manic rune]

ye, kind of

[uncut grail]

so the array length, makes sense

[manic rune]

yup

[uncut grail]

so is there a way to see all of the keys the "G" contains?

[manic rune]

can be inconsistent with his coding, so dont count too much on that

[manic rune]

  for i,_ in pairs(G) do
    print(i)
  end

[uncut grail]

thank you, i'll check these out

[manic rune]

np :D

[uncut grail]

i don't trust my instincts when im working in lua...

oh yeah wait thats not how random works

[frosty dock]

that's also not how lua works

this menace of a language is 1-indexed

[uncut grail]

thought so lol

[uncut grail]

HELP

[tall wharf]

btw

use pseudorandom_element

[uncut grail]

as in? sorry im kind of new to this

[tall wharf]

it's a balatro specific function that determine stuff based on seed

[uncut grail]

ohh

[tall wharf]

I'm so tired

[uncut grail]

by the way, is there some better way to debug this type of stuff?

as in, right now im just opening the game and trying to find this card in a spectral pack

[frosty dock]

#1228149931257237664

[uncut grail]

WTF the balatro modders are so cool

[manic rune]

if only i was cool :3

[tall wharf]

then there's me about to collapse in taco bell

[lethal ridge]

Wait

So every other language uses 0

[uncut grail]

average balatro modder

[tall wharf]

lua is the only language i know that indices start at 1

[lethal ridge]

I actually coded roblox games for a couple of years

Lua is the only thing I know and love

[uncut grail]

no yeah im pretty sure that uses lua as well

[lethal ridge]

Yea

[hushed field]

Some others do too, but languages that index at 1 are generally geared towards non-programmers

[uncut grail]

you might experience ascension once you try anything but lua

but you will have a hard time trying to understand it

[lethal ridge]

I'm forced to do python

At school

[uncut grail]

like... i can't really rely on my coding instincts when coding in lua due to its nature being different at its core

[uncut grail]

isn't pythong cool...

[lethal ridge]

So I'm still getting used to python different sytaxes

[uncut grail]

i guess its nice that you know both lua and non-lua structure

thats like the best thing ever

[lethal ridge]

Not quite

[marble flint]

lua is nice because i can easily write highly illegal code, i.e. it makes the kind of metaprogramming i like easy, and in fact encourages it

[lethal ridge]

Illegal?

[zealous glen]

Julia indexes from 1, right?

[hushed field]

Not familiar with Julia, but I know R and Matlab do

[zealous glen]

I was gonna say R is used by statisticians, but you’re right

I learned a bit of R

[marble flint]

1. hooks
2. metatables for stuff like the lazy part of LuaFunctional
3. lovely patches but that's less of lua's fault

[hushed field]

statisticians and anyone doing anything with statistics. It's taught to linguists as well

[lethal ridge]

I love metatables

[tall wharf]

chat

[forest ivy]

ye

[tall wharf]

I'm trying to come up with a good system to convert a letter deck into letter+number deck

no adding cards

no removing them either

[hushed field]

I only learned about metatables last week and I really wanna learn how to use them now, because they sound like they can make for some pretty interesting things

[zealous glen]

A -> 1, etc.?

[zealous glen]

Idk what a metatable is

[tall wharf]

letter + number

[hushed field]

It's a table that can be interpreted as a not table

[tall wharf]

so it will be mix of letter and number

[lethal ridge]

Tables but cool

[marble flint]

oh also lua's iterator (for loop) model is very nice

[zealous glen]

Just do it for the first 10 letters

[hushed field]

are letters and numbers implemented the same way? They're both stickers on cards, right?

[lethal ridge]

How so?

[tall wharf]

we also have + - * / ()

[marble flint]

very powerful, flexible, and easy to use in exactly the way that makes me happy

[zealous glen]

Seriously you could keep letters used as variables but not the rest

[tall wharf]

yeah but how do i do the part for converting letters deck to letter+number cards deck

[zealous glen]

So maybe like

[lethal ridge]

Well i also love how Lua does it

[lethal ridge]

Wait how did i suddenly forget how to do it

I have many hundreds of hours on lua

[zealous glen]

ABCEFGHIJKPQRSUVWXYZ?

[lethal ridge]

💀

[zealous glen]

Maybe not SPQR

[hushed field]

My gut tells me it might be the most interesting to just set up a good 52 card division for which numbers and operators you want to appear, and randomly assign them to cards when you start 🤔

[tall wharf]

actually do you understand what i mean by converting into number+letter deck

[zealous glen]

No

[tall wharf]

so

[hushed field]

the fact that you're asking makes me think I don't 😛

[tall wharf]

you will be able to buy vouchers that enable math in letter deck runs

the question is

how do I change existing deck to be as fair to the player as possible while adding at least one of the numbers and symbols

[zealous glen]

Oh the Voucher changes the deck?

[tall wharf]

you can't play numbers otherwise

i think changing part of the deck makes some sense

[zealous glen]

I don’t know if that’s workable

Maybe give players the consumables that do it

[tall wharf]

i guess I'll just have to add 20 cards to the deck 😔

[zealous glen]

Why a Voucher though

[tall wharf]

how else would you allow the player to play numbers in other decks

[zealous glen]

Consumables

[maiden phoenix]

Newborn sacrifice

[tall wharf]

like how would you enable it

[uncut grail]

still pretty sure this is wrong..

[glad osprey]

stapling squirrels to John balatros wife to anger god

[glad osprey]

you never add the card to your hand, it's just created

[daring fern]

I'm pretty sure it is pseudorandom_element(G.consumeables.cards, pseudoseed('seed'))

[forest ivy]

gang, how do u get download link of file? Like this one 'https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Trance/archive/refs/heads/main.zip'

[uncut grail]

checking

[maiden phoenix]

Right click the "Download ZIP" in the green Code button of the github page

[forest ivy]

download link 💔

[maiden phoenix]

? Yea right click it to get the link

[forest ivy]

waittt

holy cow ur fucking smart

ty

will surely help me a lot

[daring fern]

Is there a way one could do this?

[lethal ridge]

im going to try to read cryptid mod soruce code again

[hushed field]

I think if you return xmult_mod, it won't

[uncut grail]

hey, so i'm trying to print out a big table yet it just makes it small and says +x more values

is there a way i can avoid that?

[hushed field]

the debugger has a specific function for that, i think

[uncut grail]

btw tysm! works perfectly

[hushed field]

lm check

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Utility the inspectdepth function goes up to a depth of 5, but should get every value

[uncut grail]

nice but where did it print it out...

[maiden phoenix]

In the lovely console

[uncut grail]

don't see it there

am i doing this right?

[manic rune]

-# whats inspectDepth

[uncut grail]

the cool brother of print

[maiden phoenix]

Try sendDebugMessage(inspect(G.consumeables.cards))

[uncut grail]

the cooler daniel

[frosty dock]

with DebugPlus you can just call print on a table btw

[manic rune]

:3 just use print instead dawg

[uncut grail]

the problem with using print is just

[frosty dock]

and by "you can" I mean that the output isn't fucking useless

and by fucking useless I mean table: 0xdeadbeef

[uncut grail]

it abbreviates when there is way too much lines in the value

[uncut grail]

welp..

[midnight coyote]

how can i check how many jokers there are in the joker area, similar to what abstract does?

[hushed field]

#G.jokers.cards

[uncut grail]

hey hey its my time to shine i want to try... is it #G.jokers.cards

oh hey i won

[midnight coyote]

this is just a value i can use?

[uncut grail]

im learning

[manic rune]

...thats a new one

[hushed field]

yep! It'll give you the length of the array as a number

[midnight coyote]

can i call this anywhere or only in the calculate functioin

sorry im new to this

[manic rune]

anywhere will work

[tepid crow]

@native zinc ah yeah, the SMODS.calculate_effect, alright. I can't recall, does that actually work with retriggers?

edit: just tested, doesn't seem like it?

[midnight coyote]

alright

[zealous glen]

Consumables

[tall wharf]

as in the game rule

[zealous glen]

What do you mean

[manic rune]

where the hell is this end connected to :3

[tall wharf]

you know how buying alphabet soup voucher enables letters and words mechanics

[zealous glen]

No

[red flower]

isnt it the first function

[zealous glen]

I thought they granted Mult

[tall wharf]

both

the letters don't just pop up on new game of any other decks

[midnight coyote]

now i get to pray that my code works

[manic rune]

which one?

[midnight coyote]

is there a similar way to pull current mult?

[red flower]

calculateDOT

[native zinc]

honestly, no clue

[manic rune]

oh, no

[native zinc]

i'll test it

[uncut grail]

how would i check if something is negative?

[manic rune]

the end for calculateDOT is all the way like 100 lines below that

[red flower]

oh

[manic rune]

but the thing is, its supposed to be there

i just dont know why

:3

[uncut grail]

is it in .ability?

[manic rune]

or should i be more concerned about the fact this comment can be collapsed and vice versa

😭

what the fuck is going on in my code

[red flower]

yeah i was going to say that

[maiden phoenix]

if (card.edition and card.edition.negative)

[uncut grail]

thanks!

[manic rune]

no wait, somethings DEFINITELY wrong

look at the line numbers

[native zinc]

works with hanging chad

well wait that's weird

[manic rune]

am i manifesting code out of thin air???

😭

[native zinc]

hanging chad is retriggering once

hm

[tepid crow]

wait, are you sure? for me it just says "again" and doesn't even retrigger

[native zinc]

oh you're right

that's pretty weird

[manic rune]

-# what the fuck is going on with my file

[native zinc]

hm

[manic rune]

can someone please cast the devil away

:3

[tepid crow]

I don't think SMODS.calculate_effect handles retriggers properly (one of those special cases I was talking about haha)

[manic rune]

am i being debuffed

[shell tangle]

Kind of just seems like indentation stuff, even if it's not, double check your indentation to make it clearer. Or format it automatically if you can.

[manic rune]

is the code fucking gatekeeping me from reading it

[tepid crow]

yeah probably just auto-format it

[frosty dock]

retriggers are handled above the scope of calculate_joker, so it needs to be returned out

[manic rune]

there are 4 lines between the comment and the local var

AND I CANT ACCESS IT

[frosty dock]

however retriggers also don't work properly with extra tables

[manic rune]

😭

[frosty dock]

shouldn't be too bad to fix though, but I can't send it through SMODS.trigger_effects as that would show the retrigger messages at a bad timing

[tepid crow]

fixing which part? 🤔

[frosty dock]

repetitions not respecting extra tables

[native zinc]

i see

[tepid crow]

oh yeah I tried myself too

[native zinc]

okay i'll try with other stuff

[frosty dock]

there's a bit of ambiguity on how the returns should be handled in such a case

return {
  repetitions = 1,
  extra = {
    repetitions = 1,
    message = 'abc',
  }
}

what should this do

[tepid crow]

I tried changing

            if value.repetitions and key ~= 'retriggers' then
                for h=1, value.repetitions do
                    value.card = value.card or _card
                    value.message = value.message or (not value.remove_default_message and localize('k_again_ex'))
                    reps[#reps+1] = {key = value}
                end
            end

to

            while value.repetitions and key ~= 'retriggers' then
                for h=1, value.repetitions do
                    value.card = value.card or _card
                    value.message = value.message or (not value.remove_default_message and localize('k_again_ex'))
                    reps[#reps+1] = {key = value}
                end
                value = value.extra or {}
            end

which worked math-wise, but duplicated the "again" message

[errant fulcrum]

Whats up with the "14 and 2" in this line of code for Strength? Seems like it just takes the math.min so whats the point?
local rank_suffix = card.base.id == 14 and 2 or math.min(card.base.id+1, 14)

[red flower]

if the rank is 14 (an ace) turns it to 2

[manic rune]

if card.base.id == 14 then turn to 2, basically :3

[frosty dock]

return {
   repetitions = 1,
   message = localize('k_again_ex'),
   extra = {
    message = 'something else',
  }
}

as opposed to this

[frosty dock]

that code is completely overridden by steamodded actually

but it wraps aces around to 2s instead of just going back to themselves

[errant fulcrum]

Oh wow

[tepid crow]

read as if card.base.id == 14 then 2 else math.min(card.base.id+1, 14) end

[errant fulcrum]

yea the syntax was throwing me off

[frosty dock]

it's a ternary operator in disguise

[tepid crow]

it reads weird the first time you see it haha

[tepid crow]

first one would be 2 retriggers, second one would be 1 retrigger?

or is that not what you meant?

[frosty dock]

would you expect the retrigger of the second one to have two messages?

[tepid crow]

I'd expect "again" -> retrigger -> "something else"

[frosty dock]

uh huh, retrigger messages are usually always before a retrigger and don't exist "on their own"

so that seems unnatural

my point is this

if the message from the extra table is displayed along the one retrigger but doesn't if the extra table has retriggers attached to itself, that seems confusing

[tepid crow]

I'm confused

[manic rune]

am i witnessing the conversation between two gods

[tepid crow]

isn't this "again" -> retrigger -> "abc" -> retrigger?

[manic rune]

💔

[frosty dock]

yeah that's what I'd expect

however that suggest that the extra table is ignored when evaluating the effect table on the first retrigger

[tepid crow]

Ah so you're saying that it starts handling the extra table inconsistently?

[frosty dock]

that's what I'm afraid would need to happen

[gaunt thistle]

hey gods 👋

[tepid crow]

don't make me smite you john lovely

[gaunt thistle]

i can't smite you back but I do have a cattle prod

[frosty dock]

I'm thinking I can just ignore extra tables altogether in triggering effects, which would mean extra tables with no repetitions attached would just do nothing

[manic rune]

can i offer a :3

[frosty dock]

which I guess is consistent if you consider extra tables with no repetitions to have an implicit repetitions = 0

[frosty dock]

which means the 'something else' here is ignored

[frosty dock]

https://tenor.com/view/card-no-u-wave-uno-card-gif-15455638

[tepid crow]

I mean, kinda

so would that mean that

return {
   repetitions = 1,
   extra = {
    mult = 2,
  }
}

only gives 1 repetition and no mult then?

[native zinc]

oh and ```lua
return {
repetitions = 1,
extra = {
repetitions = 1,
message = 'abc',
}
}

fair enough

[frosty dock]

I would argue repetition checks aren't the right time to give mult

[tepid crow]

oh yeah 100% I agree

just asking for clarity

[frosty dock]

if you want the mult alongside the repetition, you can either have it in the first table or use a func

[gaunt thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/card-no-u-wave-uno-card-gif-15455638

king you dropped this

[frosty dock]

same for multiple messages on a repetition

[wintry solar]

Oh are we unscuffing repetition and retrigger logic a bit

[tepid crow]

considering to

[frosty dock]

return {
  repetitions = 1,
  message = '1',
  extra = {
    message = '2',
    extra = {
      repetitions = 1,
      message = '3'
    }
  }
}

I would see this as one repetition with "1" and one with "3", with the "2" in the middle being ignored due to having zero repetitions

[tepid crow]

Yeah that seems reasonable

[frosty dock]

that seems relatively pain-free to implement

[tepid crow]

though it would probably be nice for steamodded to give a warning or similar saying "hey your extra table is empty"?

or... "considered" empty

[native zinc]

alternatively just doc it

[frosty dock]

I guess that can be a warning as it'd rarely be intentional

[tepid crow]

could also document it yeah if any current mods are triggering that warning excessively

though I probably personally prefer a warning if possible