💻・modding-dev

[modern kindle]

also hi winter 👋

[manic rune]

oh hey, im born the same year as your brother :D

[chrome widget]

Basically how I feel about digital illustration lmao

Hi Dilly!!

[modern kindle]

hes an oct 1 child

[frosty dock]

uhh

[modern kindle]

i forgot to add winter as someone i like seein and interacting with
i see winter as a smartypants too

[frosty dock]

how would i do that

[thin anchor]

ho ho he he!

[manic rune]

bluetooth connection :3

[modern kindle]

package in a box and mail

[manic rune]

"your bluetooth device is ready to pair"

[zealous glen]

I think talent exists as having an easier time learning some topics. But that doesn’t mean anything without work

[frosty dock]

😭

[zealous glen]

And if you’re talented earlier, people’ll usually encourage that talent by giving you work

[modern kindle]

when can we get a bepis device

[tepid crow]

oh btw Aure, maybe you know more about this?

[zealous glen]

What’s university level over there?

[neat plover]

@thin anchor

[high eagle]

...i still need help, im really sorry to bug

[chrome widget]

I went to college for this, that's basically it, plus I've had professional programming experience. 90% of what I've learned has been at the behest of some institution or other people, otherwise I suck ass at motivating myself towards new things
<------ clinically depressed tgirl

[manic rune]

what would it even be about, sending pepsi to your house? 😭

[high eagle]

holy shit im clinically depressed tgirl....

[thin anchor]

yikes

[chrome widget]

BABE SAME!!!!!

[neat plover]

a few mental breakdowns

[open aspen]

why isnt this working 😭 anyone know?

[modern kindle]

ive done programming for a few things but my head doesnt seem to keep things in it (joys of military induced short term memory loss)

so i have to fight every step of the way

but i find you very good at what you do ♥

[tepid crow]

share the code that's causing this issue

[manic rune]

you forgot "true" :apply(G.hand.cards[1],true)

[primal shoal]

ah i want to make that old man consequences minigame from ucn in balatro now

[zealous glen]

Not a trans girl but I was taking depression meds

[modern kindle]

i am also clinically diagnosed with the spicy sadness and shit so i feel you

[neat plover]

i feel your pain, just wanting an answer in a busy discussion

[manic rune]

yeah uh, show me your sticker's apply function

[frosty dock]

for what I did at 15, like calc 1/2 and linear algebra

[chrome widget]

Unfortunately yeah It's hard to give a sense of what's happening because there are a couple reasons why an atlas might be nil at the time of access. I have a vague sense as to why, but I'd need to see the code where you're loading them

[limber blaze]

im trans but ive never been taking meds so it cancels out

obviously thats how it works

[open aspen]

it uh. doesnt have one 💀

i thought it had a default implementation

[manic rune]

you need one 😭

this is mine

[open aspen]

ty

[simple mural]

What is the difference between Self and Card?

[limber blaze]

i was really really interested in complex numbers at like 16 but thats just a perk of being autistic then i became really interested with trying to graph hyperoperations but gave up because all the tools fucking suck for it

[limber blaze]

card is the actual card self is like the table containing the key and the apply functions and the atlas and everything

[primal shoal]

uh based holy

[simple mural]

Oke

[zealous glen]

What’s calc 1/2 for you? My uni had the general calculus courses for engineers and other areas, but also the dedicated courses for the math department. (Not saying one is more than the other, just that they’re different.)

Also I remember some linear algebra professors saying it’s something people should learn in high school, but they don’t, so they have to “catch up” students

[tepid crow]

Huh, weird. Try disabling all mods except your own and debugplus and see if it still crashes?

[limber blaze]

for stickers self and card actually dont even represent the same type of thing since a card is not a sticker but for like jokers and stuff it can be more confusing

[open aspen]

still didnt work WHY

[high eagle]

ill try!

[simple mural]

What kind of hyperoperations?

[limber blaze]

tetration for the most part

[open aspen]

i literally copied it directly

[manic rune]

odd

do you have hide_badge = true?

[primal shoal]

lin algebra is f(x) and stuff right?

[open aspen]

no i dont

[manic rune]

huh

[hushed field]

me when i'm an undercover cop

[manic rune]

can you show me the code for the stickers

[open aspen]

sure

[frosty dock]

I gtg eat dinner now, I'll explain later

[manic rune]

😭

[zealous glen]

In programming, objects can have methods, and it’s customary for the object to refer to itself as self. Due to how SMODS is structured, you aren’t defining the methods for the object itself, but for the object prototype which is used to create the object

[manic rune]

if there was really an undercover cop then #1347081678010712085 is doomed lmfao

[chrome widget]

I think I see the issue!

Your hanafuda joker just doesn't have the atlas field set

[zealous glen]

My friend studying algebra learned a programming language to handle graph operations

[tepid crow]

but it does?

    -- Which atlas key to pull from.
    atlas = 'super_balatro_sweater',

[primal shoal]

desmos is right there

[manic rune]

-# i think

[limber blaze]

my most recent obsession is lambda calculus but im too stupid to learn anything more than what people tell me so im cooked

[manic rune]

wait maybe you do

scrap that

[zealous glen]

No*, linear algebra are vectors and matrices

[simple mural]

Complex numbers are interesting to me because I am simply interested in algebraic mathematics.
I studied them from the other side and came to understand the argument of the number and operations between such numbers

[limber blaze]

anyway i do actually have a question about localization

[chrome widget]

Oh wait formatting issue

[zealous glen]

-# If you have a master’s degree in math, then yes

[limber blaze]

when you use things like {X:mult}blah blah{} is there a way for me to a define a custom color here like you can with regular text colors

[chrome widget]

Shouldn't it have the mod prefix?

[high eagle]

ohhhhhhhh

wait maybe

[tepid crow]

smods should automatically prepend it 🤔

[zealous glen]

Ice stop being so funny

[primal shoal]

global.lua

[chrome widget]

it would be [prefix]_super_balatro_sweater unless you specifically set something to change it

[limber blaze]

atlases that are defined in an smods.x() function usually automatically prepend the prefix

[chrome widget]

... I think

[simple mural]

Try something like "{C:#FFFFFF}"

[limber blaze]

X specifically not C

[zealous glen]

Yes I explained how earlier

[manic rune]

...im fairly certain it should work

ghhhh

[limber blaze]

where?

[simple mural]

Then just replace C with X

[turbid maple]

linear algebra being a confusing name for laypeople is really funny

[zealous glen]

@limber blaze part 1

[open aspen]

I HATE BALATRO MODDING I HATE IT OMG

[turbid maple]

once saw a small bookstore place a linear algebra textbook next to children's algebra workbooks

[zealous glen]

Part 2

[tepid crow]

does it still crash with the other mods disabled?

[open aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/yarabandı-gif-25587935

[manic rune]

😭

[limber blaze]

ill try it out

[open aspen]

easy peasy

its just algebra right

[turbid maple]

it's literally lines and algebra stuff you do in middle school

how hard can it be

[high eagle]

yes

[open aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-neo-keanu-reeves-power-windy-gif-15235043

[high eagle]

i tried winters fix, too, and no cigar

[tepid crow]

can you share the new crash?

[open aspen]

then u see this shit

iykyk

[zealous glen]

I had a class in my first semester which was kinda like an intro to linear algebra, but in practice it was whatever the professor wanted to teach. The professor repeatedly said that even his 6-years-old daughter could understand the concepts he explained to us

[open aspen]

oh boy

[thin anchor]

im going to redraw this and name it ai slop joker

[high eagle]

jombo.... dokr...........

[fervent thicket]

calculate = function (self, card, context)
    if(context.destroy_card and context.cardarea == G.play) then
      if #context.full_hand == 1 and G.GAME.current_round.hands_played == 0 and SMODS.has_enhancement(context.full_hand[1], "m_stone") then
        card.ability.extra.totalmult = card.ability.extra.totalmult + card.ability.extra.mult
        card.ability.extra.durability = card.ability.extra.durability - 1
        return {
          message = card.ability.extra.totalmult,
          colour = G.C.MULT,
          delay = 0.45, 
          remove = true
        }
      end
    end
  end,

Could someone tell me why this is crashing?

[zealous glen]

Not the Jombo

[open aspen]

can anyone spot any problems with this code? that would prevent me from applying the sticker with debugplus?

[turbid maple]

DOKR

[high eagle]

i believe this is the same crash as befor

[thin anchor]

.jokpr
the deck building game

rkod

[tepid crow]

yeah it is; I just didn't want Cryptid's stuff everywhere

[turbid maple]

your message

[zealous glen]

By “whatever he wanted to teach”, I later had calc 3 with that professor, and he brought a dynamical systems researcher to tell us about his work. “That’s cool and all but we don’t understand it.”

Then he took the same researcher to give the same talk to 1st semester students in his class 😭

[fervent thicket]

Oh... I'm dumb

[turbid maple]

you're setting the integer (totalmult) value as the message to display and I'm assuming it doesn't like that

you'd really want to format a string anyway instead of the raw number

[high eagle]

i see i see

[open aspen]

anyone spot any problems with this code for a sticker? It wont apply with debug plus

[twilit cargo]

😭😭😭😭

[thin anchor]

balala 2

[turbid maple]

jombo poker

[twilit cargo]

Jombo ❤️❤️❤️

[turbid maple]

welcome to jombo com

[twilit cargo]

love jombo

[thin anchor]

jombo

[zealous glen]

no thoughts just jombo

[tepid crow]

Alright I'm kinda lost, also because it's working on my machine. There's also some stuff in that crash log that makes me suspicious it's not actually crashing on your joker

[high eagle]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[tepid crow]

does it work if you don't define the joker at all?

only the atlas

[high eagle]

...maybe i can delete and reinstall balatro?

[tepid crow]

return message might need to be a string not a number? not 100% sure

[thin anchor]

jombo my beloved

[tepid crow]

you can reverify balatro's files if you want through steam, can't hurt

[fervent thicket]

Yeah, that's what someone else said. Fixed it.

Kinda

[tepid crow]

oh my bad

didn't see that

[twilit cargo]

OK IM ACTUALLY FREE FROM DYNATEXT THIS TIME

[turbid maple]

how are you defining the atlas?

[modern kindle]

huge news, i had to use it for my misprint joker but chips instead

shits a menace

[turbid maple]

you will never be free from the horrid shackles of UI code

[tepid crow]

here's Peekmin's code

[modern kindle]

i will be if i just never use it

😄

[twilit cargo]

i had to figure it out last night for evil jenker joker

fucked up and malicious

[thin anchor]

jombu

[twilit cargo]

jombu

[tepid crow]

a sticker pos of x=100, y=100 seems weirdly large btw

[lucid owl]

i'm trying to check for cards with an odds variable (some enhancements i added have it) but i'm just getting a crash about extra being nil?

[twilit cargo]

isnt it context.destroyed_card?

[tepid crow]

sounds like some of the cards don't have your enhancement, thus .ability.extra doesn't exist

[lucid owl]

hm, figured it'd account for that

[lucid owl]

context.destroying_card is used when in G.play

[twilit cargo]

ohh i c

[high eagle]

SMODS.Atlas {
-- Key for code to find it with
key = "super_balatro_sweater",
-- The name of the file, for the code to pull the atlas from
path = "super_balatro_sweater.png",
-- Width of each sprite in 1x size
px = 71,
-- Height of each sprite in 1x size
py = 95
}

[simple mural]

Is there a way for the edition to directly influence the card, joker or tarot?

[open aspen]

my intent was for there to only be soul pos (e.g floating sprite) rather than a sticker

idk if that a valid way to make the sticker not show up

[tepid crow]

seems a bit janky but eh

probably fine

[tepid crow]

@high eagle btw?

[high eagle]

oh hold on

i would just delete the code temporaliy then?

[tepid crow]

or just comment it out yes

for the joker only

[keen tiger]

1/2 chance of 10x mult. Also 1/2 chance of 0.1x mult. Both mults stack

[turbid maple]

and where are you putting the atlas file

[tepid crow]

@turbid maple

[thin anchor]

i was thinking of making it give less mult the more money you have but this is cool too

[turbid maple]

I mean just making sure they're putting the image file in the right place

[chrome widget]

Typically SMODS.Atlas errors specifically if there's an issue collecting the file so I didn't assume that was the problem

[tepid crow]

oh like the actual image file

[keen tiger]

Also a good idea. That mult thing is the mechanic of a joker I wanted to make called "Techbro"

[thin anchor]

ooo

[tepid crow]

yeah this is my assumption too

[high eagle]

at the beginning of my code

[turbid maple]

mm i guess so

[zealous glen]

But why

[open aspen]

i just want the sticker to be floaty

thats all

[high eagle]

....still crashed

[open aspen]

like legendaries

[zealous glen]

You can do that without the soul_sprite

[tepid crow]

Funny. How about when you also remove/comment out the SMODS.Atlas code?

[open aspen]

how?

[simple mural]

For example, so that the joker changes its appearance and the principle of counting if it has Edition

[zealous glen]

Define a custom draw function

And pass the same arguments as the soul sprites

[simple mural]

Is this possible?

[open aspen]

thats what im unfamiliar with atm

[zealous glen]

Possibly

[tepid crow]

probably, sounds like a lot of work though (and impossible mod-compat)

also I don't know what you meant with "the principle of counting"

[zealous glen]

If it’s like Jokers, it should just require defining draw

[simple mural]

I meant calculate

[zealous glen]

The wiki should lists the args

[high eagle]

same error

[tepid crow]

Lol. Alright, try updating steamodded

[open aspen]

this is the wiki docs

but it wasnt clear on how you would actually write the function

[zealous glen]

yes it’ll be something like draw = function(self, card, layer) whatever_the_sprite_is_named:draw_shader(…) end

[chrome widget]

You'll have to look at the vanilla code for it, because the Sprite file has a bunch of drawing specific functions

[open aspen]

alright

ty all

[zealous glen]

But you only need one

You’re just drawing one layer

[simple mural]

Maybe I'll make not 450 jokers but 3 new editions

[chrome widget]

Sprite:draw_shader() is the basic drawing function it uses to send info to a shader, and it typically expects that the shader is formatted similar to the vanilla ones, sending a bunch of args like image_details, texture_details, dissolve, etc

Typically I don't use it, and I set shader variables manually and then call Sprite:draw_self()

[zealous glen]

Maybe I mentioned the wrong function

Whichever one you pass transform args to

[chrome widget]

This is a cut down custom drawing function I use sometimes:

    if not card.config.center.discovered then
        return
    end

    local cursor_pos = {}
    cursor_pos[1] = card.tilt_var and card.tilt_var.mx*G.CANV_SCALE or G.CONTROLLER.cursor_position.x*G.CANV_SCALE
    cursor_pos[2] = card.tilt_var and card.tilt_var.my*G.CANV_SCALE or G.CONTROLLER.cursor_position.y*G.CANV_SCALE
    local screen_scale = G.TILESCALE*G.TILESIZE*(card.children.center.mouse_damping or 1)*G.CANV_SCALE
    local hovering = (card.hover_tilt or 0)
    
    G.SHADERS['fnwk_basic']:send('mouse_screen_pos', cursor_pos)
    G.SHADERS['fnwk_basic']:send('screen_scale', screen_scale)
    G.SHADERS['fnwk_basic']:send('hovering', hovering)
    love.graphics.setShader(G.SHADERS['fnwk_basic'], G.SHADERS['fnwk_basic'])
    card.children.backing:draw_self()
    love.graphics.setShader()
end```

[simple mural]

Probably 450 jokers after all

[thin anchor]

jombo

[simple mural]

I want to make any variation of gameplay with vanilla jokers

[chrome widget]

My implementation for the "basic shader" is essentially just the default love2D shader that returns the pixel color at a specific point, plus the hover transformation vertex effect

    #define MY_HIGHP_OR_MEDIUMP highp
#else
    #define MY_HIGHP_OR_MEDIUMP mediump
#endif

vec4 effect(vec4 colour, Image texture, vec2 texture_coords, vec2 screen_coords)
{
    vec4 pixel = Texel(texture, texture_coords);
    return pixel;
}

extern MY_HIGHP_OR_MEDIUMP vec2 mouse_screen_pos;
extern MY_HIGHP_OR_MEDIUMP float hovering;
extern MY_HIGHP_OR_MEDIUMP float screen_scale;

#ifdef VERTEX
vec4 position( mat4 transform_projection, vec4 vertex_position )
{
    if (hovering <= 0.){
        return transform_projection * vertex_position;
    }
    MY_HIGHP_OR_MEDIUMP float mid_dist = length(vertex_position.xy - 0.5*love_ScreenSize.xy)/length(love_ScreenSize.xy);
    MY_HIGHP_OR_MEDIUMP vec2 mouse_offset = (vertex_position.xy - mouse_screen_pos.xy)/screen_scale;
    MY_HIGHP_OR_MEDIUMP float scale = 0.2*(-0.03 - 0.3*max(0., 0.3-mid_dist))
                *hovering*(length(mouse_offset)*length(mouse_offset))/(2. -mid_dist);

    return transform_projection * vertex_position + vec4(0,0,0,scale);
}
#endif```

So sometimes when I don't want something drawn the typical way, I'll do this instead

Putting stuff in Card:draw is just a means to manually implement what the game normally does automatically

[high eagle]

i did. nothing seems to be working, and im a bit overwhelmed rn, so i might just take a break

[tepid crow]

Fair enough. Good luck 🫡

[turbid maple]

ill see if i can help when im home

[chrome widget]

Right now I'm trying to solve my own shader problem and hoping I can find someone to help because I'm having trouble parsing how to normalize coordinates for atlas textures of different pixel sizes

[frosty dock]

The first course I took was basically an intro to both linear algebra and calculus and is supposed to teach the general ways of mathematical thinking/proofs etc. and does restate a good few things one would already know from high school, but in a more rigorous way. For linear algebra this includes a more general concept of vector spaces, though I did learn roughly the same things in high school. It's more or less specific to the math department, though it's also used for computer sciences students. What I'd call calc 2 was a separate class that I took the next semester and it's pretty much typical for a calc 2 course specific to the math dep

[onyx sonnet]

hey lars, ive been using NeatoJokers as a framework for a mod of mine and i realized that loading every joker as its own lua file gets rid of the automatic badge that smods gives, do you know if there's a way to permit it?

[tepid crow]

it what now

it shouldn't 🤔

[onyx sonnet]

??

well then i guess my issue is another

hm

[chrome widget]

You have to manually set no_mod_badges = true on the joker definition for that to happen

[tepid crow]

mod badges are still enabled in the mod config?

[chrome widget]

Or yeah, disable them entirely in mod config

[onyx sonnet]

they should be enabled?

[tepid crow]

better question would be whether mod badges for other mods are showing up

[thin anchor]

jombo

[turbid maple]

no DOKR?

[thin anchor]

i forgot

aw

[onyx sonnet]

i have two self made mods both using neato as a framework and neither of them have badges

ill try reinstalling smods

[next timber]

how would i go about making an edition draw an additional sprite on top of the joker?

[zealous glen]

I see so it does seem curated to be for a career in math. Interesting

Although I suspect that French engineers might learn deeper math than Brazilian engineers

I’m neither so I’m guessing

[tepid crow]

Weird. This setting isn't enabled, right?

[chrome widget]

There's basically three reasons why mod badges won't show up

• Card is Locked or Undiscovered
• No Mod Badges is enabled per joker or in global config
• The Mod is missing display name information

For the latter one, it does this check to show badges
obj and obj.mod and obj.mod.display_name

[quartz ravine]

Is there a will_shatter context?

[thin anchor]

fixed

[chrome widget]

There's not, I actually had a discussion about this before. You can probably manually calculate a glass card shattering with the seed used for glass randomization, and then mark it to be destroyed. It'll work functionally identical, and you can tell from the object that does the calculation that the shatter will occur

[next timber]

i am looking at the code for how aikos shenanigans draws letters and i do not understand a word of it

[onyx sonnet]

It was checked somehow???

[twilit cargo]

oh god

[onyx sonnet]

i dont think ive ever gone to that page 😭

[twilit cargo]

how is this gonna work on 1x 🥀

[thin anchor]

it wont 🥀

[twilit cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233186615086813277/1353437920945766531/jombo_my_beloved.gif

[quartz ravine]

Ah, looks like, @chrome widget , you can do this

if context.remove_playing_card then unlocks context.removed and those entities have .shattered propeerty

[thin anchor]

jombo is too powerful

[tepid crow]

🥴

[chrome widget]

Oh no yeah it depends on what your use case is

[wintry solar]

whats the shatter questioin?

[chrome widget]

I specifically had a joker that needs to add a retrigger on a glass card that's about to shatter, so I need to know it earlier than when it actually gets destroyed

[onyx sonnet]

i spent the better part of an afternoon trying to figure out why my badges werent showing and it was because of a stupid check

[open trench]

kendrick lamar joker:

[wintry solar]

you wont know it's about to shatter in the retrigger step

[chrome widget]

Yep yep, that's why I suggested calculating the shatter manually, if that's what you needed

Otherwise, there's a context for when it shatters

[wintry solar]

it would calculate twice

[quartz ravine]

Hi Eremel, I am trying to proc a bonus when glass is used and does not break but I just realize that I was going for the wrong approach.

That would tell me if a glass card shatteres, not to see if it was glass but did not shatter.

[keen tiger]

this looks so funny

i want to see how the end result looks in game

[brazen tusk]

how would you guys word smth like this "If hand contains exactly 3 7's..." theres no numbers next to eachother in game and no plural(?) numbers
i at least want it to be sort of consistent with other mods if its smth they do

[thin anchor]

cant wait to see jombo ingame

[tepid crow]

I believe people prefer to change one of the numbers to the full word

e.g. "if hand contains exactly three 7s"

[wintry solar]

I don't think an effect like that is possible by default with the timings of context calls

[chrome widget]

I don't particularly mind this, since in terms of seed progression I don't expect people ot pay much attention to specific glass shatters unless they're really minmaxing, but either way I could easily patch the util code to not calculate the glass destruction if a card already has shattered set on it from something earlier

[brazen tusk]

i think ill go for 3 sevens bc it only breaks 2/3 conventions then 💀

[chrome widget]

The default already attempts to calculate glass shattered even if it's already been destroyed by some other means

[tepid crow]

I really wouldn't do "3 sevens" since the base game always uses the number when referring to ranks

[brazen tusk]

i mean it doesn't do it for quantity either but igwym it also js looks odd

[gentle rain]

we loooove jokers based off music

[thin anchor]

low resolution jonkler

[gentle rain]

retro joker,,,

[tepid crow]

the mixels are real with that one

[wintry solar]

patching the standard check would work, if you let it do it twice though you'd have shatters without the effect

[brazen tusk]

should make the text match

[brazen tusk]

ong

[keen tiger]

How many jokers are you making

[chrome widget]

Not sure I understand why. Doesn't the shatter effect just happen on any glass destruction if it fills the condition in SMODS.shatters() and then gets .shattered set on it?

[thin anchor]

as many as i can think of

[tepid crow]

@wintry solar psst, does the extra table in return not work for anything complicated like retriggers and only for the basic mult/chips/messages?

[wintry solar]

uhhh that sounds correct yeah

[wintry solar]

it does, but if you're pre calcing it before hand to see if your effect should trigger, and it doesn't hit, it could then calc it again later and mark it as destroyed

[tepid crow]

Shit. Alright, thanks

[frosty dock]

there's no reason why there would be any evaulation it doesn't work with

[keen tiger]

Idea: If there isnt a joker that restores the next N destroyed jokers/cards you should make one and call it "On call" with an exhausted sysadmin joker art

[chrome widget]

Im inherently always a little iffy on patching SMODS specific stuff just cause obviously it's more unstable than isolated code, but sometimes it is what it is

[frosty dock]

actually retriggers specifically

[tepid crow]

I'll see if I can whip up a quick example to show what I mean

[thin anchor]

maybe

[frosty dock]

yeah uh that makes sense why it wouldn't work for repetitions, they're handled in a weird way

[quartz ravine]

I am going to try a lovely patch, I have an idea of how I could do this re: proccing when glass does not break

[wintry solar]

I don't think it would work on removing cards either right?

[chrome widget]

I could also do something really stupid and manually set a glass card I've precalced to not have the glass enhancement temporarily while not updating its sprites, therefore it inherently ignores the glass check anyway

[tepid crow]

never mind on that example then

[chrome widget]

Which is, hehe, dumb. But also doesn't require patching SMODS code

[frosty dock]

it should with the changes I made in blind calc

[wintry solar]

I see

[open aspen]

why does my card sticker say error?

[frosty dock]

you need a label string in misc.labels

[thin anchor]

i love self inserts

[open aspen]

okay, would the key be the same?

[frosty dock]

yes

[open aspen]

?

or would it be text =

[tepid crow]

it should be under misc.labels, not under misc

[open aspen]

oop yea

[minor furnace]

similar to how in the base game there's a global for consumable shop rates, i.e. G.GAME.planet_rate, does smods create a global for custom consumeable types that can be changed on the fly? Because shop_rate = x, is something you can specify in the SMODS.ConsumeableType declaration

[tepid crow]

and check out misc.labels in the vanilla en-us, that should probably give you the formatting you need

[frosty dock]

and it's just the string, no name table

[minor furnace]

is there something like G.GAME.prefix_consumeableKey_rate?

[frosty dock]

yes

the docs totally mention that

[twilit cargo]

i should prolly make the sprite change and message happen at the same time smhow

[frosty dock]

no prefix on consumable types though

[minor furnace]

oh awesome

glad my intuition was right on it at least lol

[open aspen]

also this doesnt work, it crashes the game because it cant index extra. i think its because its a sticker

[chrome widget]

But yes, someone smarter than me, please help me with math:

I have a shader function here that I'm attempting to use to do a shader effect on atlases of varying sizes, because the Joker temporarily sets its Atlas to that of another joker to do this (meaning there can be inconsistency in the atlas's dimensions, depending on what vanilla does vs what a mod creator does). I have a specific visual example below of an atlas I use for a card that is 213x95 pixels, with the pixel pos set at 1, so it's using the middle part of the texture visually as its center

I'm ATTEMPTING to make sure that the color set in vec4 pixel is correctly transformed to only the currently visible part of the texture, since the vec2 tex_coords parameter of the function prototype typically just has values ranging from 0-1 on both axes normalized regardless of the pixel size of the atlas

extern MY_HIGHP_OR_MEDIUMP vec4 texture_details;
// (x = width, y = height) for atlas texture [not normalized]
extern MY_HIGHP_OR_MEDIUMP vec2 image_details;
extern Image mask_tex;
extern MY_HIGHP_OR_MEDIUMP float mask_mod;

vec4 effect(vec4 color, Image tex, vec2 tex_coords, vec2 screen_coords) {
    float width_mod = texture_details.b / image_details.x;
    float height_mod = texture_details.a / image_details.y;
    float pos_x = (texture_details.x + tex_coords * width_mod) * width_mod; // Normalized pos_x
    float pos_y = (texture_details.y + tex_coords.y * height_mod) * height_mod; // Normalized pos_y

    vec4 pixel = Texel(tex, vec2(pos_x, pos_y));
    vec4 mask = Texel(mask_tex, tex_coords);  
    return vec4(pixel.rgb, max(0, pixel.a - (1 - mask.r) - mask_mod));
}```

[tepid crow]

Hmm, I'm not sure, never dabbled in stickers. You might need to use self.config directly in this case?

[thin anchor]

1x jombo doesnt look too bad

[frosty dock]

stickers don't copy any config to the card ability table by default

[twilit cargo]

what's his effect

[frosty dock]

if you need any and allow them to be changed, you have to copy them in apply

[thin anchor]

thinking of
+50 mult, -1 mult every dollar you have
unsure how im going to make a minimum of 0

[twilit cargo]

if g.game.dollars > 50 id assume

[thin anchor]

yeah

[long sun]

hihi! when my runs starts, why does book_card not get changed?

Mail-In Rebate changes its rank just fine

[open aspen]

how would that work? card.config.extra.mult?

[frosty dock]

you can set card.ability[self.key] to a copy of self.config in apply

[thin anchor]

is this correct

[frosty dock]

no

mult = has to be followed by an expression, not a statement

if you want to modify the ability value, do it outside the return table

[thin anchor]

ok

[brazen tusk]

does this seem alr balance and gamefeel wise?

[quartz ravine]

Anyone know of a way to check to see if your lovely patch was applied?

[long sun]

oh, also, the localization doesn't work :)))))

(i changed 2 to 14 to match Mail In Rebate, btw)

[open aspen]

is this correct?

[chrome widget]

You can check the file directly in the lovely dump, and it'll tell you in the dev console if it failed to patch for whatever reason (no matches, multiple matches, etc)

[thin anchor]

is this correct

[open aspen]

im getting attempt to index boolean value at line 23

[frosty dock]

are you using a card you made before changing the apply function?

[open aspen]

yes

that makes sense

[frosty dock]

(also i recommend you deepcopy, as right now the extra table will be the same exact table reference as self.config.extra

or just don't use an extra table, you really don't need it

[open aspen]

how does one deep copy?

[frosty dock]

copy_table

[open aspen]

alright now mousing over the card with the sticker crashes the game

goodness

[thin anchor]

how would you correctly make it so dollars subtracts from mult

[forest ivy]

w joker

[quartz ravine]

Sweet, I will share it when I am done but I am like 75% there to tracking when glass does not break!

INFO - [G] setupGlassTrackingvar

That's from a lovely patch I wrote

[warped marsh]

How do I change a suit? Is it set_suit or?

[heady siren]

Gonna ask again to see if anybody here now has a solution, is it possible to delete all cards in played hand, destroy_card doesn't work, start_dissolve doesn't properly delete them and they get put back into the deck as nothing cards, and trying to use Hanged Man or any other deletion card methods doesn't do anything, even when the code is directly copy and pasted

[tepid crow]

context.destroying_card?

[open aspen]

anyone know why this is happening?

[heady siren]

There is no context.destroying_card, there is context.destroy_card, and I already said that doesn't work

[tepid crow]

context.destroying_card only exists as subsection within context.destroy_card when calculating in G.play

also, I made a joker with it, so I'm pretty sure it exists

[heady siren]

And context.destroy_card doesn't work, the subsection doesn't work either

[tepid crow]

how does it "not work" then?

[heady siren]

It only destroys scored cards

[tepid crow]

Ah, yeah that seems about right

hmm

[heady siren]

And trying to use return {remove = true} in any other context only removes the first card processed, because the return ends the fuction

It feels like I'm trying to make a joker that's in an exact blindspot of smod

[thin anchor]

how would i subtract mult from dollars?

[heady siren]

Nobody else has even thought of deleting all cards in played hand apparently /=

[heady siren]

Wouldn't that subtract the dollars from mult? I think you're doing that backwards

If mult = 20 and money = 15, you'd get 5 mult in return with that code

[thin anchor]

oh yeah
i want the joker's mult to decrease with how much money you have
but it isnt doing anything at all

[twilit cargo]

the mult thats returned doesnt have any arithmetic done afaik, the mult = card.ability.extra.mult - G.GAME.dollars doesnt change it

[forest ivy]

got a crazy idea

[tepid crow]

try

        if context.destroy_card and context.cardarea ~= G.hand then
            return {remove = true}
        end

edit: nevermind, don't do this lmao

[twilit cargo]

atleast i dont think it does

[forest ivy]

feed as much info abt smods as possible from example mods & docs to chatgpt and then test it

smh he finna use console.write()

[open aspen]

yea u should return mult = card.ability.extra.mult - dollars

[tepid crow]

though any other approach that checks for card is played instead of context.cardarea ~= G.hand should work

[wintry solar]

this will destroy the entire deck if the deck feature is on btw

[tepid crow]

oh

haha

you're right lmao

guess you're gonna have to iterate through full_hand then

[heady siren]

full_hand doesn't work

[tepid crow]

wtf does "doesn't work" mean

[thin anchor]

so like this?

[tepid crow]

you get literally every card with context.destroy_card, just check whether it's one of the ones that was played

[open aspen]

yep

[thin anchor]

it works!!!!

aw i need to add a minimum

[open aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233186615086813277/1353462688973459598/image.png?ex=67e1bddb&is=67e06c5b&hm=bb1ba2f395e8b137f1cf8e6f8c4b6403f301d4fb231534317545191bffcc3c0c&

[heady siren]

I was trying to make this work for 3 hours last night, I've tried destroy hard with basically every cardarea

[open aspen]

im getting a crash with this code when mousing over the card with the sticker

[tepid crow]

don't use cardareas like that

[onyx sonnet]

Turbo deck fixing

[minor furnace]

I was looking at the bootup log, and I did not realize just how many Talisman patches just straight up fail

[tepid crow]

more like this (this is pseudocode)

        if context.destroy_card then
            for card in context.full_hand do
                if context.destroy_card == card then
                    return {remove = true}
                end
            end
        end

[frosty dock]

why not context.cardarea == G.play or context.cardarea == 'unscored'

heck, even context.destroy_card.area == G.play will do

[tepid crow]

wow that second one is weird

[quartz ravine]

IMagine a powerful joker who charges 15 chips per second or something from your total. So you have to think quickly

[tepid crow]

oh it's because almost all other types of effect need the card to be scoring

ugh that's annoying

[thin anchor]

how would i add a minimum to mult?

[frosty dock]

math.max(..., 0)

[gentle rain]

"Each played [rank] gives +9 mult when scored, rank set when obtained"

[upbeat bronze]

not sure why but my custom card skin textures arent loading properly?

the atlas paths are correctly synced with their respective filenames in assets -> 1x and assets -> 2x

so im not sure why they arent loading

[toxic rain]

thatt's weird, you sure you don't have a typo

[thin anchor]

like this?

[upbeat bronze]

im certain

[open aspen]

no in calculate

[open aspen]

can someone help me?

[upbeat bronze]

cardpack_hc.png and cardpack_lc.png in the assets folder, the json, and the lua

[upbeat bronze]

or rather in the json its directing to cardpack.lua

[thin anchor]

so like this

[heady siren]

Every single time I try to use a context dependent variable it comes up nil, what am I doing wrong? I'm trying to use context.destroying_card, and apparently that's nil

[simple mural]

How can i get mod-id from the code?

[zealous glen]

before or after purchase?

[upbeat bronze]

yeah i just...dont know

really not sure why its just not working

[gentle rain]

after purchase

so you dont know what it is till you pick up the phone!!!

[zealous glen]

hmmm

a bit weak

[zealous glen]

if you didn't define it, it's the fist four characters of your mod's name IIRC

[thin anchor]

is this how you would add a minimum of 0 to a joker's mult?

[open aspen]

no, you would return mult = math.max(card.ability.extra.mult - dollars, 0)

[thin anchor]

i am going insane

[red flower]

math.max returns the maximum between values math.max(50,0) will always return 50

[open aspen]

im going insane too

[upbeat bronze]

like i dont get why its just not appearing

[open aspen]

anyone know wtf is going on

[upbeat bronze]

idk what im doing wrong

[faint plank]

did you figure that out? im doing the same thing

[crystal perch]

nope, i'm pretty sure the shadow is tied to the soul shader so i think you'd have to make a custom shader

[simple mural]

I have it set in meta.json, but how can I get it from any mod lua file?

[zealous glen]

you mean you want other mods' ids?

[faint plank]

hologram has its own shader override. it has no shadow but i'd rather not have it be holographic lol

i might just fiddle with the listed shaders till i get one that works

[simple mural]

I need one variable with the ID of my mod to access it from any file

[zealous glen]

but the ID of your mod should be constant

you can just use it

?

[simple mural]

How?*

[zealous glen]

Didn't you define the mod ID?

That's it

Just use that

[simple mural]

...

How do I use the my mod ID?

[zealous glen]

Idk what you want it for

Why do you need it?

[simple mural]

I need it for SMODS.Joker:take_ownership()

[chrome widget]

Okay I finally fixed the shader issue I was having, but now I have to figure out how to draw editions atop an inherently procedural stack of textures

And the solution to that might unfortunately just be to.... not draw them

[upbeat bronze]

anyone know?

[zealous glen]

Do you want to take ownership of a specific Joker from another specific mod?

[simple mural]

From my mod

[zealous glen]

You shouldn't need to take ownership of your own Joker

Why are you trying to do it?

[simple mural]

I cycle through making a joker base and changing some parameters for each one

[zealous glen]

You shouldn't need to take ownership of it, I think

any reason you can't change the parameters before creating the object?

Like

[simple mural]

I need it

[zealous glen]

You create a base table

Then you add the extra parameters to the table

Then you create the Joker

[gentle rain]

actually a friend gave me a much sillier idea

[quartz ravine]

Wow, writing TOML patches is harder than I thought, it is really not clear if I must account for spacing and indentation to match or not

[open aspen]

why is my sticker crashing the game when i mouse over the card

[quartz ravine]

I need to see the line numbers

[simple mural]

I just NEED it

[open aspen]

the crash has nothing related to my cards code in the log but ill send it anyways

[zealous glen]

and I'm saying you could do something like this

but anyways

you defined your mod ID

so you can just copy-paste the ID you defined

[open aspen]

its in ur metadata.json

[simple mural]

How can i get it from there???

[open aspen]

copy it with ctrl v

[simple mural]

With a code

Not with a ctrl-c + ctrl-v

[open aspen]

why do u need to get it programatically

if u really want to just ctrl v into a variable in main.lua or something

Like my main lua is this

so if i want to access stuff like that I guess I can just do UTM.ModId = "textFromMetadataFile"

[simple mural]

This is not very good way for me

[open aspen]

ok do what i said then

[open aspen]

alright i gotta bump this again: why is this crashing my game 😭

[zealous glen]

where does hoveredCard come from? On GitHub it looks like a global variable

[heady siren]

If you scroll further down into the crash report it might tell you where in the file it's crashing

[open aspen]

it doesnt

thats why im dying out here 😭 wtf is going on :(

something is nil thats all i know

[heady siren]

Put prints throughout the file and see where the last successful print is

Also, for a problem of my own, how do I detect if the hand is currently visible?

[open aspen]

that seems like a headache lowkey......

[heady siren]

It's better than trial and error

Just add one in each condition with a different name

[heady siren]

if context.cardarea == G.hand then doesn't work and I'm not what would

[open aspen]

like i have no idea what is nil right now lol

not even the slightest idea

[heady siren]

Try printing your variables right before you reference them to see if any of them come back nil

[hushed field]

what do you mean by visible in this case? If the hand is actually drawn and interactable?

[manic rune]

i saved it as a global variable, so that if you leave the run and come back then it will still be fine

i hooked card:hover() and card:stop_hover() in keybinds.lua to save to hoveredCard, you can probably ignore the local var and use the global var directly instead

[heady siren]

Yes, I have a joker that's supposed to add cards to the hand when it's available, and add it to the deck when it's not

And you sell the joker to trigger it, so it can happen in the blind, booster, or in a shop

[hushed field]

'if G.hand' should work

[forest ivy]

gang slide some balatro mods that are adding blinds and not crashing my game

[quartz ravine]

Wow, when in doubt, just use regex. This is soooo powerful

[open aspen]

what would i be printing

[heady siren]

Just a string that says what condition it's in, so you can track which one it stops at

[open aspen]

oh i see

i mean

it crashes only when i mouse over it

[heady siren]

It adds it to the hand... when they're in the shop, so the player now has their hand available in the shop

[open aspen]

and the crash log talks about UI

[forest ivy]

man ur build suck, sell the wee joker

[heady siren]

That doesn't change that putting prints in the conditions would tell you in which condition it's crashing

It would narrow down where the nil variable is being used

[hushed field]

oh interesting. Apparently it's not gone wrong for my checks, and I definitely use that one. G.hand.cards >= 1 should only ever be true when you're hand is drawn, so that should work

[open aspen]

the print doesnt show up in the crash log

[heady siren]

It won't, it'll show up in the console

[brazen tusk]

i have no idea what im doing here ;-;
would someone be able to help me get this functioning like hit the road?

[open aspen]

i dont see how this is going to help me narrow it down then

[heady siren]

Okay, I don't know how to help, if you're not going to do it, then don't do it, but I'm not gonna try to help anymore

[open aspen]

nw

its a weird issue anyways

considering the log isnt already showing me anything

[heady siren]

I'm giving you a potential solution and you're just sidestepping actually trying it

[open aspen]

i mean, i really dont understand where im putting the prints here

[heady siren]

Inside the conditions, and right before referencing variables, I said that before

[open aspen]

would i print the variables?

to make sure they arent nil

[hushed field]

print statement debugging is a very typical way to test where functions go wrong, if a normal debugger is impractical

[open aspen]

ye

like again it can crash literally any time its only dependent on me mousing over the card

the instant the mouse goes over the card it crashes

[zealous glen]

is that not the normal way to debug a function

[open aspen]

and the log points to ui.lua

[hushed field]

That means it'll be an error in your text or loc_vars

[zealous glen]

/ /

[open aspen]

what if i just comment loc_vars out for now then and see if the error still happens

[hushed field]

could you post the code and error log again? clicking back up through replies is buggy as hell on discord for me

[open aspen]

sure

give me a moment i gotta crash it again 💀

[heady siren]

If I were to put prints inside of this code I'd do

        print(card.config)
        -- If the context is after scoring, and the cardarea is the play area, continue.
        if context.after and context.cardarea == G.play then
            print('after')
            -- Loop through the scoring hand.
            for index, otherCard in ipairs(context.scoring_hand) do
                print('scording_hand'..index)
                -- If we found our card, continue.
                if card == otherCard then
                    print('card is otherCard')
                    -- If the next card exists, continue.
                    if (index + 1) < #context.scoring_hand then
                        print('can be tagged')
                        -- For some reason, this is the only way to get the card to have the visual effect of being tagged happen along with the text.
                        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                            func = function() 
                                print('is tagged')
                                local enhanceSave = next(SMODS.get_enhancements(context.scoring_hand[index + 1])) == nil and "c_base" or next(SMODS.get_enhancements(context.scoring_hand[index + 1]));
                                context.scoring_hand[index + 1]:set_ability(G.P_CENTERS[next(SMODS.get_enhancements(card))]);
                                card:set_ability(G.P_CENTERS[enhanceSave]);
                                return true 
                            end
                        }))
                        -- Return the message to display when the enhancement is applied.
                        return {
                            message = 'Tagged!',
                            message_card = context.scoring_hand[index + 1],
                            colour = G.C.RED,
                        }
                    end
                end
            end
        end
    end,```

And if it doesn't print anything there, then that's not the offending function

[open aspen]

you mean if it does print it right?

[heady siren]

You said it crashes when you hover over, if nothing from calculate is printed, then it's not trying to calculate anything, and the crash is a different issue

[open aspen]

ah gotcha

but if calculate would get run when i hover over, it would just crash before i see anything

[heady siren]

Also, where is loc_txt?

[open aspen]

this is my en-us.lua file

[heady siren]

It says that's required for stickers

[open aspen]

and its in localization folder

[heady siren]

Try putting it into the actual sticker just in case

[open aspen]

ok i narrowed it down by hail marying

if i comment the misc section it doesnt crash

[hushed field]

error can't be in the calc function, btw, that shouldn't trigger at all by hovering over a card

[open aspen]

in localization

so i assume i did that wrong

[heady siren]

Well there ya go

[heady siren]

I didn't know that for sure, so that's why I suggested it, because sometimes the solution is in somewhere you think definitely isn't the problem

[open aspen]

yea

if it was i would have not figured it out otherwise

[heady siren]

Debugging is just poking different parts of your code that are usually related to your problem for an hour, and then poking something that isn't, and somehow that's the problem

[open aspen]

lord have mercy on programmers souls

[open aspen]

well, now I need to figure out what is wrong here

[hushed field]

that's where print("TESTING FUNC?") comes in 😛

[heady siren]

That's basically what I was suggesting ronit to do

But I'm the kind of person to just do print('fuck') 20 times in my code

[hushed field]

hahaha

[heady siren]

Or print('yes')

To answer the question "is it working?"

[hushed field]

I leave it at testing just in case I accidentally push it to main and a streamer decides to stream my mod to kids, you know

[open aspen]

i default to 'sus'

[heady siren]

Everybody has their funny print phrase

[next timber]

im a big fan of "AAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

[hushed field]

problem here is I think that you're nesting one time too many. Labels are just labels, so they don't need to be formatted like that

[heady siren]

That's like the magenta and black missing texture of debug prints, you'll definitely notice it

[hushed field]

instead they're labelled just as whatevertheyekeyis = "whateveryourstringis"

[next timber]

ok im back to trying to figure out how tf to draw custom sprites

[open aspen]

i referenced cryptid code

fixed it

now i just gotta figure out how to make the color not white on the background

[hushed field]

I'd recommend against referencing cryptid code. The code isn't bad, but it's got so many custom systems that it might be a bit misleading when you think you get what something does

[open aspen]

Oh for sure

ive attempted to check cryptid code for stuff and realize its not applicable in my case

[toxic rain]

i'm trying to do a sorta baseball card like ability but i keep getting a nil value when "attempting to index field 'ability' "

[open aspen]

cause its some weird way of doing it

[open aspen]

where can i define the color

[hushed field]

also, stickers happen to be janky as hell, and Cryptid's probably heavily changed them to fit their needs

[hushed field]

badge_colour = HEX('ffd081') or whatever colour you want, where you define the sticker

[toxic rain]

    key = 'TOGO', --joker key
    loc_txt = { -- local text
        name = 'To Go menu',
        text = {
            "Food Jokes each give {C:mult}+5{} Mult",
            "{C:inactive}(Ramen, Popcorn, Egg,",
            "{C:inactive}Turtle Bean, Diet Cola, Seltzer,",
            "{C:inactive}Gros Michel, Cavandish and Ice Cream",
            "{C:inactive}are food jokers)",
        }
    },
    config = { extra = {mult = 5}},
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { card.ability.extra.mult } }
    end,
    rarity = 2, --rarity: 1 = Common, 2 = Uncommon, 3 = Rare, 4 = Legendary
    atlas = 'Jokers', --atlas' key
    pos = { x = 0, y = 0 },
    cost = 5,
    unlocked = true, --where it is unlocked or not: if true, 
    discovered = true, --whether or not it starts discovered
    blueprint_compat = true, --can it be blueprinted/brainstormed/other
    eternal_compat = true, --can it be eternal
    perishable_compat = true, --can it be perishable
    pos = {x = 0, y = 0}, --position in atlas, starts at 0, scales by the atlas' card size (px and py): {x = 1, y = 0} would mean the sprite is 71 pixels to the right
    ```

[hushed field]

you're gonna wanna share your calculate function as well 😛

[crisp elbow]

Probably is somewhere in the calculate function that lies the problem everything else here looks legit

[toxic rain]

it's basically the same as the baseball card atm but i plan to change it once i can get it to work

        
        if context.other_joker then
            if  self.ability.name == 'To Go menu' and context.other_joker.config.center.rarity == 2 and self ~= context.other_joker then
                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                    func = function()
                        context.other_joker:juice_up(0.5, 0.5)
                        return true
                    end
                })) 
                return {
                    Xmult_mod =  card.ability.extra.mult,
                    message = localize{type='variable',key='a_xmult',vars={self.ability.extra}}
                }
            end
        end
end
}```

the plan is to use it on a diffrent subset of jokers and have a plus mult instead of a xmult

[open aspen]

is there any easy way to render a sticker at half the size

[hushed field]

you're using self, but that's not possible in smods calculate functions

[crisp elbow]

^

[toxic rain]

ah ok that would explain it, what should i use instead?

[hushed field]

card. instead of self.

[toxic rain]

ok thanks

[forest ivy]

smh github is hard shit

[crisp elbow]

You may have to do some more specific if functioning if you want it to only apply to Food Jokers btw @toxic rain

Idk if context.other_joker would be enough

[quartz ravine]

Nevermind everything i said about regex

[toxic rain]

def, i was thinking of checking either card name or card key since i don't think they have a food joker category

[hushed field]

food jokers don't exist as a base classification in the game, so you can't easily check it. You'd have to add some functionality for that, or do it by hand with a bunch of if or statements

[crisp elbow]

Key would probably be better if you can define it in a table somewhere

[hushed field]

or a for loop ofc

[open aspen]

i have a file just for defining lists of cards

[modern kindle]

I had to do this myself
Hate that

[open aspen]

so i would maybe go about it like that

[crisp elbow]

True, table could be better for mod support 🤔 but idk

It’s easy to add to a table if a mod is loaded rather then a for loop

[hushed field]

I've set up a tagging system for Kino so I can easily assign and set qualities to jokers, which is quite helpful

[crisp elbow]

Up to you and that specific purpose though

[modern kindle]

Now i just have a isfood bool which makes it easier for modded shit

[toxic rain]

could have the food jokers defined in a list or something, i don't have much lua experience but i have programmed in other object orientated languages (python, c#, java)

[forest ivy]

imagine a mod that would add a separate deck for each rgb color from 0 0 0 to 255 255 255

using purest random

[crisp elbow]

Would probably crash the game

[hushed field]

that's the way to do it, yeah

I know Cryptid does it like that

[toxic rain]

ah ok makes sense

ok the game isn't crashing but the jokers doesn't seem to do anything

[forest ivy]

like generating:
Buff (e.g. +X something)
Buff 2 (20%)
Debuff
Debuff amount (e.g. -X something)
Debuff 2 (20%)
Deck cards (including 'randomized' variant)
and some more for each one

[onyx sonnet]

Closest thing is checking for perishable compatibility, since every food joker is inherently incompatible with perishable

[forest ivy]

just randomly

[open aspen]

anyone know?

[onyx sonnet]

But that also includes certain jokers like luchador

[open aspen]

in before cryptid stake that makes stickers ignore compatibility (for every item in game)

[onyx sonnet]

Why would you care about cryptid comp

That mod isn't even compatible with itself

[open aspen]

any mod could do that

if they wished

its a better solution to just define the jokers imo

even if its harder to do

[crisp elbow]

Not necessarily “harder” really

[onyx sonnet]

Yeah sure but you're gonna be incompatible with every mod ever unless you make a list everytime someone makes a new mod with new food jokers

[crisp elbow]

Just takes a little more time

[open aspen]

yea but doing it the other way opens your mod to being broken entirely

rather than just being incompatible with a joker from a different mod

[onyx sonnet]

I think you're better off making a joker about something perishing on its own than food specifically

[hushed field]

I think food jokers are used so often that there's some agreed standards as to how to about making new ones

I think Paperback and Maximus set it in a pool?

[open aspen]

thats actually prolly even better

than just defining a list

[crisp elbow]

Really now I’d have to take a look

[toxic rain]

ok the joker is no longer crashing the games but it is also not doing anything

SMODS.Joker {
    key = 'TOGO', --joker key
    loc_txt = { -- local text
        name = 'To Go menu',
        text = {
            "Food Jokes each give {C:mult}+5{} Mult",
            "{C:inactive}(Ramen, Popcorn, Egg,",
            "{C:inactive}Turtle Bean, Diet Cola, Seltzer,",
            "{C:inactive}Gros Michel, Cavandish and Ice Cream",
            "{C:inactive}are food jokers)",
        }
    },
    config = { extra = {mult = 5}},
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { card.ability.extra.mult } }
    end,
    rarity = 2, --rarity: 1 = Common, 2 = Uncommon, 3 = Rare, 4 = Legendary
    atlas = 'MMM_Jokers', --atlas' key
    pos = { x = 0, y = 0 },
    cost = 5,
    unlocked = true, --where it is unlocked or not: if true, 
    discovered = true, --whether or not it starts discovered
    blueprint_compat = true, --can it be blueprinted/brainstormed/other
    eternal_compat = true, --can it be eternal
    perishable_compat = true, --can it be perishable
    pos = {x = 0, y = 0}, --position in atlas, starts at 0, scales by the atlas' card size (px and py): {x = 1, y = 0} would mean the sprite is 71 pixels to the right
    
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        
        if context.other_joker then
            if  card.ability.name == 'To Go menu' and context.other_joker.config.center.rarity == 2 and card ~= context.other_joker then
                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                    func = function()
                        context.other_joker:juice_up(0.5, 0.5)
                        return true
                    end
                })) 
                return {
                    Xmult_mod =  card.ability.extra.mult,
                    message = localize{type='variable',key='a_xmult',vars={card.ability.extra}}
                }
            end
        end
end
}```

[hushed field]

Pools give some handy options for access, and also, they're retrievable by the tools for the mod wiki, which is helpful 😋 I've currently set up my genre system as pools, though if your mod works like mine and uses an insane amount of tags, you do want to skip the step of pools being objects, I reckon

[crisp elbow]

What is the localization for it in en_us.lua?

[open aspen]

is there a way to render a sticker at half size? my sticker is detailed at 32x32 but it also shows up as double the size of other stickers?

[crisp elbow]

I don’t believe so, no

[hushed field]

You never need to check whether the triggering joker is your joker in the calculate function!

[open aspen]

REALLY? damn

not even with draw function?

[toxic rain]

ok, which part is that?

[hushed field]

I recommend looking at some other mods to see their implementation, because vanilla jokers aren't very similar in set up to smods jokers

[crisp elbow]

I wouldn’t know myself as I haven’t tried it but I think it’d be a similar problem to a 2x sprite in 1x

Hardcoded

[forest ivy]

why mods arent adding new blinds at all

i only got 7 pages

[hushed field]

If card.ability.name

[toxic rain]

thanks

[crisp elbow]

Yeah you can keep the other if

[hushed field]

Blinds were annoying to make up until last week

[forest ivy]

what has changed

[crisp elbow]

Did something change to be able to make blinds easier?

Is it like SMODS.blind now?

[hushed field]

Smods added blind calculate support

[crimson marlin]

how do i use tailsman in my own mod? im tinkering with blind scaling but for some reason it goes to naneinf instead

[forest ivy]

gang iirc there was a google docs with a list of 100+ mods, can somebody slide a link ?

[heady siren]

I've gotten the Joker of Holding working, using this code, if you wanna make a joker destroy all played cards, this is how I did it

[forest ivy]

nvm found it

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L2wPG5mNI-ZBSW_ta__L9EcfAw-arKrXXVD-43eU4og/edit?gid=510782711#gid=510782711

peakest one

[next timber]

how would I get the game to draw a custom sprite over the top of jokers with a certain edition? like yes i know draw steps are involved but i have no clue what im doing outside of that

like i'm trying to define a sprite but G.ASSET_ATLAS["rendom_b_atlas"] is returning nil at the time the code is running, i assume because it hasnt had time to load yet (if i remove the erroring code and then do eval G.ASSET_ATLAS["rendom_b_atlas"] i get normal values)

[upbeat bronze]

is there not a template mod for adding textures to the customize deck screen?

[next timber]

i just searched the example mods github and saw no mention of Sprite so i dont think so

closest i saw was a deck skin but thats not what im looking for

[hushed field]

Flutterren, you messed around with changing the scale of sprites, right?

[next timber]

i changed the scale of a joker semisuccessfuly yeah

couldnt figure out how to make the hitbox scale AND have it work with floating sprites

had to pick one or the other

[upbeat bronze]

ah sorry, i was asking my own question not responding to you, sorry

[next timber]

oop lol

[hushed field]

Would you know how to change the scale of a sticker? @open aspen was trying to do that

[next timber]

if you can find the sticker's sprite try changing its .T.scale?

[toxic rain]

do you have any reccomendations, the only one i've found so far that affect other jokers is boredom from the cryptid mod but i can't make heads or tails from that one

[hushed field]

Not for that specific effect! But I do think your implementation of the effect was done properly, it's just that you used some conventions that aren't necessary for smods

[toxic rain]

ah ok, although i still need to figure out why it isn't working

[hushed field]

If you resend the code, I'll have a look. I reckon it'll only be some details you still need to fix up 😄

[toxic rain]

ok will do

[crisp elbow]

I mean what you could do is try and check Kidnapping to see how it calls for certain jokers? I know there’s another joker called Cut the Cheese that does stuff with food jokers

[toxic rain]

SMODS.Joker {
    key = 'TOGO', --joker key
    loc_txt = { -- local text
        name = 'To Go menu',
        text = {
            "Food Jokes each give {C:mult}+5{} Mult",
            "{C:inactive}(Ramen, Popcorn, Egg,",
            "{C:inactive}Turtle Bean, Diet Cola, Seltzer,",
            "{C:inactive}Gros Michel, Cavandish and Ice Cream",
            "{C:inactive}are food jokers)",
        }
    },
    config = { extra = {mult = 5}},
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { card.ability.extra.mult } }
    end,
    rarity = 2, --rarity: 1 = Common, 2 = Uncommon, 3 = Rare, 4 = Legendary
    atlas = 'MMM_Jokers', --atlas' key
    pos = { x = 0, y = 0 },
    cost = 5,
    unlocked = true, --where it is unlocked or not: if true, 
    discovered = true, --whether or not it starts discovered
    blueprint_compat = true, --can it be blueprinted/brainstormed/other
    eternal_compat = true, --can it be eternal
    perishable_compat = true, --can it be perishable
    pos = {x = 0, y = 0}, --position in atlas, starts at 0, scales by the atlas' card size (px and py): {x = 1, y = 0} would mean the sprite is 71 pixels to the right
    
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        
        if context.other_joker then
            if  context.other_joker.config.center.rarity == 2 and card ~= context.other_joker then
                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                    func = function()
                        context.other_joker:juice_up(0.5, 0.5)
                        return true
                    end
                })) 
                return {
                    Xmult_mod =  card.ability.extra.mult,
                    message = localize{type='variable',key='a_xmult',vars={card.ability.extra}}
                }
            end
        end
end

[toxic rain]

ok ill will check those two out

[open aspen]

i’ll try

[plucky wolf]

How would I change the vanilla stake order, for a deck? I'm trying this but it seems not to make a difference. I imagine it could be SMODS' interference with vanilla code, but I'm not sure how I'd go about it if that's the case

[zealous glen]

New technology

Easier to implement than it seemed

[chrome widget]

Uhh, how do I conjugate saying multiple of the same card, and does it work the same way for all ranks?

• Discard 5 Kings of Hearts
• Discard 5 1s of Hearts
• Discard 5 10s of Hearts

Is this correct? For some reason it doesn't feel correct

[zealous glen]

I don't know enough English but it sounds correct to me, although one might prefer to write the quantity extensively for clarity

or at least put a line skip

Discard 5
Aces of Spades
[…]

[crisp elbow]

You could probably get away with saying discard 5 cards of a specific type

[zealous glen]

or maybe you restructure it in the singular

[crisp elbow]

And then list the example

[chrome widget]

The unlock condition is "Discard 5 Kings of Hearts at once"

[zealous glen]

Discard an
Ace of Spades
5 times
[…]

[zealous glen]

I think vanilla has that

[crisp elbow]

Vanilla has a royal flush I think

[zealous glen]

Vanilla has Seeing Double

[crisp elbow]

Yeah they said it like “play a hand that contains 4 7 of clubs”

[chrome widget]

It has two examples, discarding a royal flush (Brainstorm) and discarding 5 jacks, suit independent (Hit the Road)

[chrome widget]

It also does spell out "four"

[crisp elbow]

So you could just do “discard a hand that contains five Kings of hearts”

[chrome widget]

Would it be five King of Hearts? Following Seeing Double's example?

[crisp elbow]

Probably

[chrome widget]

It doesn't pluralize 7

[zealous glen]

I feel like King should be pluralized

[worthy stirrup]

what is the frame rate for the blind animations

[zealous glen]

IIRC they had 17 frames

[worthy stirrup]

i mean the fps, theres 21 frames if i did my math correctly

[zealous glen]

Yeah 21

I did not RC

[hushed field]

you can just return x_mult = card.ability.extra.mult. SMODS will take care of the message. Besides that, I'm honestly not seeing why it shouldn't trigger. Do you know if it enters the context properly?

[worthy stirrup]

fair

[zealous glen]

@hushed field new tech

[toxic rain]

well thanks for taking a look at it, gonna work on it more tomorrow

[hushed field]

oh nice. I should get something like that into Kino soon, before I make a joker that's too bloated with glsosary terms 😛

[brazen tusk]

would someone be able to provide an example of a card that works like hit the road or yorick? pls 🙏

[zealous glen]

It was simpler than expected

[crisp elbow]

wouldn't it be a_mult?

[toxic rain]

might be

[crisp elbow]

a_mult actually adds it in this case

message = localize({ type = "variable", key = "a_mult", vars = { card.ability.mult }}),

You can return a message that shows the mult

[toxic rain]

true although right now im only trying to get something to work

[crisp elbow]

and then do ``` mult_mod = card.ability.mult

[toxic rain]

and now the game crashes on boot

[real flame]

Hello! I'm trying to make mod for the game, and I wanted to ask what states does context.cardarea have?

[crisp elbow]

replace card.ability.extra.mult with just card.ability.mult

or if you're trying to get it to work with card.ability.extra.mult you can just reverse it

basically it's calling the value that doesn't exist "card.ability.mult"

[chrome widget]

I love overdesigning things

[toxic rain]

seems to be a missing } but idk how this message induced that

[crisp elbow]

                    message = localize({ type = "variable", key = "a_mult", vars = { self.config.extra.mult_add }}),
                }```

here's the full reutrn function, idk how it didn't jank out 😭

[toxic rain]

ok ill see if that works

no crash

[crisp elbow]

oh wait hold on

replace mult_add with card.ability.extra.mult

mult_add's gonna throw nil

[toxic rain]

ok i got a message although it was indeed a nil mult

ok it crashed
47: attempt to index field 'card' (a nil value)

[warped marsh]

From what I remember it’s == G.play or == G.hand

[warped marsh]

Send the full code please

[toxic rain]

ok

SMODS.Joker {
    key = 'TOGO', --joker key
    loc_txt = { -- local text
        name = 'To Go menu',
        text = {
            "Food Jokes each give {C:mult}+5{} Mult",
            "{C:inactive}(Ramen, Popcorn, Egg,",
            "{C:inactive}Turtle Bean, Diet Cola, Seltzer,",
            "{C:inactive}Gros Michel, Cavandish and Ice Cream",
            "{C:inactive}are food jokers)",
        }
    },
    config = { extra = {mult = 5}},
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { card.ability.extra.mult } }
    end,
    rarity = 2, --rarity: 1 = Common, 2 = Uncommon, 3 = Rare, 4 = Legendary
    atlas = 'MMM_Jokers', --atlas' key
    pos = { x = 0, y = 0 },
    cost = 5,
    unlocked = true, --where it is unlocked or not: if true, 
    discovered = true, --whether or not it starts discovered
    blueprint_compat = true, --can it be blueprinted/brainstormed/other
    eternal_compat = true, --can it be eternal
    perishable_compat = true, --can it be perishable
    pos = {x = 0, y = 0}, --position in atlas, starts at 0, scales by the atlas' card size (px and py): {x = 1, y = 0} would mean the sprite is 71 pixels to the right
    
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        
        if context.other_joker then
            if  context.other_joker.config.center.rarity == 2 and card ~= context.other_joker then
                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                    func = function()
                        context.other_joker:juice_up(0.5, 0.5)
                        return true
                    end
                })) 
                return {
                    message = localize({ type = "variable", key = "a_mult", vars = { self.config.extra.card.ability.extra.mult }}),
                }
            end
        end
end
}

[quartz ravine]

In Steammodded, how do we track if glass is played but does not break? I can see where I could modify the original state_events code, but after steammodded, it is harder to see where to make an edit 🙂

[warped marsh]

return {
message = localize({ type = "variable", key = "a_mult", vars = { card.ability.extra.mult }}),
}

Replace the old message with that

[toxic rain]

oki ill try that

ok i got the message alteast

[warped marsh]

What’s the problem?

[toxic rain]

althought the actual mult doesn't seem to be adding

[warped marsh]

Can you explain your joker to me

It’s hard to read code on the phone

It’s all squished

[toxic rain]

it's supposed to work similar to how the baseball card works, right now it's supposed to just a copy but with a diffrent mult, later on i will change it to use a diffrent subset of jokers

[warped marsh]

So it adds 5 mult?

And what it stacks?

[toxic rain]

it's supposed to give +5 for each uncommon as written right now

[gilded narwhal]

hey i could have sworn there was a way to override the collection order and set it manually but i can't find it

[toxic rain]

the pop up thingy works but it's not adding any actual mult

[warped marsh]

do mult = card.ability.extra.mult in your return statement

[toxic rain]

oki thanks

although i'm probably gonan call it quits for today after this im getting eepy

IT WORKS

[warped marsh]

:)

[toxic rain]

well now to change the subset of jokers.... tomorrow

[real flame]

calculate = function(self,card,context)
        if context.cardarea == G.jokers then
            if context.before and not context.blueprint then
                local faces = true
                for i = 1, #context.scoring_hand do
                    if not context.scoring_hand[i]:is_face() then faces = false end
                end
                if not faces then
                    local last_mult = card.ability.Xmult
                    card.ability.xMult = 0
                    if last_mult > 1 then
                        return {
                            card = self,
                            message = localise('k_reset')
                        }
                    end
                else
                    card.ability.Xmult = card.ability.Xmult + card.ability.extra.XmultMod
                end
            elseif not context.after then
                if card.ability.Xmult > 1 then
                    return {
                        card = card,
                        Xmult_mod = card.ability.Xmult,
                        message = 'X' .. card.ability.Xmult,
                        colour = G.C.MULT
                    }
                end
            end
        end

For some reason (maybe a really stupid one) the card keeps playing over and over again over any action. How can I make it only play when jokers are calculated?

[open aspen]

why doesnt this set the sticker on a card?

is this the right method

[chrome widget]

Hmm.... is there a stored config for hands in the same way there is for centers? I need to know which hands are secret hands at the time of a hand being played, but the game sets the only obvious property marking them (visible) otherwise when they're played

Or do I literally just have to call Game:init_game_objects() myself?

Okay, I think the protoype for everything is just in SMODS.PokerHands

[open aspen]

ok this code adds the sticker to index + 1, but it doesnt remove the sticker from card

how do i remove the sticker lol

[gilded narwhal]

bump

[warped marsh]

if context.joker_main then

use this instead

[upbeat bronze]

is there a way to get this to display Jack Queen King Ace?

atm its just displaying the Jack twice instead of Jack & Ace

[thin anchor]

who did this

[open aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-jimbo-wave-jump-hi-gif-4322737058573181479

this is in smods repo but it doesnt seem to work

figured it out

my apply function used to be this.

i changed it to this and used the same method to apply it except with false as val

just in case anyone else finds this issue i had thats how i fixed it

[real flame]

What is wrong? I tried to disp;ay a message under the joker but it shows me this

[brazen tusk]

does anyone know if there is documentation on xchips support

[thin anchor]

riffraff 2

[zealous glen]

but does it work in other languages

[chrome widget]

Doubtful

[acoustic sundial]

Is there a way for me to reference the current blind type? I know you can check if boss blind. But lets say I wanted to check for big blind?

[zealous glen]

Vanilla checks for the name

The proper way would be to check for the key

[crimson marlin]

how do you modify blind selection like the enter the gungeon challenge (all blinds are boss blinds)
i couldnt find anything in the games and mods code

[zealous glen]

what mod is that

I had someone else's code and my code that could do something similar, but not the same

[crimson marlin]

cryptid mod

[agile thistle]

blind choices are stored in ```lua
G.GAME.round_resets.blind_choices --keys Small, Big, Boss

[crimson marlin]

thanks

[agile thistle]

be aware you will have to do some finangling with the way the game handles ante increases if you say have all boss blinds

[crimson marlin]

ante 8 round 3 💀

[zealous glen]

Yeah

Somone else's code that I have handles that

this person's

[wintry swallow]

hello

it's me

[zealous glen]

how are you

[wintry swallow]

yeah that sure is my code that fixes that bug

[zealous glen]

I forgot to write down whose code I saved so I took the opportunity to remind myself before I share it with other people again

[wintry swallow]

lol, fair. i appreciate it

[thin anchor]

would this be how you implement a random mult value?

[zealous glen]

Not exactly

[heady siren]

It'd be math.random(), but I'd suggest using pseudorandom instead

[zealous glen]

There's a pseudorandom utility to ensure that values are consistent per seed

[thin anchor]

ah

[heady siren]

Also, how do I force the played hand to be a specific type?

[quartz ravine]

Hi dudes, what should this cute little guy do?

[zealous glen]

basketball

https://youtu.be/JKvtsL4pKZk?si=uT87xsh3RP9pZujY

[thin anchor]

how would i implement that though?

[heady siren]

Go looking for it in the github, the example joker mod has multiple randomized jokers in it

[thin anchor]

ah

[heady siren]

Can I get an answer for this one? I've got a joker that turns every card in a Straight, Full House, or Five of a Kind into a wild card, but the game doesn't recognize it as a Flush version of those hands after turning them into wild cards

[warped marsh]

Poker hand?

[heady siren]

Yeah

[warped marsh]

Try next(context.poker_hands[“your poker hand”]

[heady siren]

Does that force it to be that hand?

I'm using that to detect the current hand right now

Just tried it, it doesn't

[warped marsh]

If you want to force it then you need to do separate code for it to not score anything

So if not the poker hand then do this

What to do I don’t know

But I’m sure somebody has coded something like that

You can also look at boss blind mechanics

[heady siren]

Cryptid has consumables that force the game to recognize the played hand as a different poker hand

So I know it's possible

[warped marsh]

Anything is possible!!!

[brazen tusk]

how does one make a message be a variable so you can have e.g the x mult of a joker show when its upgrading?

[heady siren]

I think you can just treat a message like a string, so you can concatenate with 'text'..variable

[brazen tusk]

so like this?

[warped marsh]

Look at stampeded examples at the runner

It shows you exactly what to do

[brazen tusk]

o7

[covert scroll]

What is the context for being during a round

Like just being inside any blind

[brazen tusk]

is this an incorrect place to put "x_chips = ..."? im assuming it is bc it isnt working lmao

[stray warren]

It would need to be in the return of the function

[brazen tusk]

ty, didn't occur to me to have one at the end that isnt within the IFs 💀

[stray warren]

It's not a context, but I think it's one of the states in G.STATES

[brazen tusk]

got crashes saying arithmetic on hand_chips is result in nil

pretty sure my code isnt causing that

default value of extra.x_chips is 1

[heady siren]

How do I set the current hand chip value?

I can change the visual number, but I can't figure out how to change the actual value

[brazen tusk]

i think its G.hand_chips?

[heady siren]

Doesn't appear in the game's code

[brazen tusk]

ah

im not the best source of info 😅

[heady siren]

I think I've got a roundabout way of doing it, as per usual

This is said roundabout way, change the text, add the difference

[brazen tusk]

got this crash on triggering the joker

its specifically this line and idk if i've implemented it wrong or what

[heady siren]

I think x_chips is a fully modded thing

It might not exist in the game's code

[brazen tusk]

steammodded added support for it a month ago apparently

[heady siren]

I don't know then

[open aspen]

im attempting to make my sticker display at half the scale/size (because its 32x32 for detail but it also displays at double the size as other stickers), how can I do it?

[stray warren]

you don't use self, you use card

and your function definition should be calculate = function(self, card, context)

[brazen tusk]

in what contexts do i use self vs card

ive used self for everything lol

[stray warren]

Are you using Steamodded or just modifying the balatro code?

[brazen tusk]

steammodded

[rapid stag]

...could i add a seal to a joker?

[open aspen]

this is wrong for sure

but like its the closest ive got

[covert scroll]

What is the correct way to set probabilites so that it is affected by oops all sixes

[stray warren]

G.GAME.probabilities.normal

that's the number that is affected by Oops

For example, 1 in 10 chance would be:
local triggered = pseudorandom("seed") < G.GAME.probabilities.normal / 10

[open aspen]

how can i get the Sprite behind my sticker

[covert scroll]

How would i display this in local vars, like the chance, because it says the GAME field is nil

[rancid bridge]

anybody have an idea for an effect
i was thinking even rank cards give x2 mult when scored but i feel as if "even rank cards" is too broad for them to give x2 mult

[open aspen]

YO

[stray warren]

What does your loc_vars look like rn?

[open aspen]

i wanted to make an animated joker that was the head bobbing animation of abbie

W joker

[open aspen]

uhh id ask in fan art lowkey

[covert scroll]

    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return {
            vars = {
                card.ability.extra.destroyChance,
                card.ability.extra.moneyChance,
                card.ability.extra.money
            }
        }
    end,
    config = {
        extra = {
            destroyChance = G.GAME.probabilities.normal / 2,
            moneyChance = G.GAME.probabilities.normal / 2,
            money = 5
        }
    },

[open aspen]

i see a lot of good ideas there

[agile thistle]

hey hey excuse me what

[brazen tusk]

i'd add another thing to it like, enhanced cards with even rank or something

[rancid bridge]

yeah that seems good

[stray warren]

You'll need to reformat your function. Keep the probabilities variable separate from the actual odds number. I don't know that GAME is accessible from within the ability table Here's how you can reformat it:

    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return {
            vars = {
                G.GAME.probabilities.normal,
                card.ability.extra.destroyChance,
                G.GAME.probabilities.normal,
                card.ability.extra.moneyChance,
                card.ability.extra.money
            }
        }
    end,
    config = {
        extra = {
            destroyChance = 2,
            moneyChance = 2,
            money = 5
        }
    },

You'll need to add some more variables to the description and have them like #1# in #2# for those

[open aspen]

anyone know?

[old bane]

how do i make it so that a rarity is not available in shop but is still summonable

(just like Legendaries, but my own custom rarity)

[errant fulcrum]

If I'm using SMODS.create_card, how many of these lines do I not need anymore?

local card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, 'pana')
                            card:add_to_deck()
                            G.jokers:emplace(card)
                            card:start_materialize()
                            G.GAME.joker_buffer = 0

[lethal ridge]

I recreated pi from cryptid mod

Is it fine if i put this in my mod since it is heavily inspired and referenced from cryptid

Im not so sure so asking here

[turbid maple]

I mean cryptid didn't invent the concept of pi on a pie but it's a bit weird to purposefully have your joker look almost identical to another mod's joker imo

[modern kindle]

it just makes it fanart, which isnt deemed weird

or it can even be said to be a 'cryptid reference'

[turbid maple]

there's fanart and there's recreating the sprite and using it

[modern kindle]

i think if its fine for people to have the same ideas for jokers its fine to use the same art if they arent just copying the png

[old bane]

is it possible to have multiple pages in the config UI for my mod?

[vocal cedar]

Dude idk

[lethal ridge]

True, then i should probably change how it looks

[vocal cedar]

this is like

kinda identical lol

[lethal ridge]

I used it for the reference

[vocal cedar]

like yours does look better but

[vocal cedar]

we know 💀

[lethal ridge]

I should change it then

[vocal cedar]

I mean, what is it gonna do?

If it’s gonna do the exact same shit that crypdt does uhh

My policy with jokers is it’s fine if you take the functionality of a joker from another mod as long as you don’t make it the exact same art honestly