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[remote shell]

mine will have references to all sorts of stuff

[deft niche]

does it work for playing cards too?

[rain slate]

I think so

[hard flume]

I changed a suit. Just let me get my code rq

[rain slate]

pseudorandom_element selects a random element from a table so you would probably do something like ```lua
local editions = {
{ foil = true },
-- more elements
}

context.other_card:set_edition(pseudorandom_element(editions, pseudoseed("insert seed here")), true)

[high eagle]

what would running a print function in balatro do?

[rain slate]

it should just print it to the console

at least it does if you have the DebugPlus mod installed, idk if it does without it but probably does

[high eagle]

ok so void, if im getting this right we should have created a new "context" function which the joker can call when calculating?

[deft niche]

what do I input at seed?

[rain slate]

oh wait i need to edit this

now it should be correct

[rain slate]

you would usually just put the name of the joker into it

[deft niche]

what does inputting the joker name do?

[rain slate]

it's just a seed for the random number generator

[deft niche]

mhm ok

is there a way to set the "weight" of each element in the pool?

[rain slate]

you'd need to make a custom RNG for that I think

I guess you could just put the same element multiple times into the table but that's kinda jank

[turbid maple]

context is just a table storing variables.

What SMODS.calculate_context will do is go through all the Jokers currently owned, and call each Joker's calculate function and pass the context table you made into it.

[tall wharf]

Fredoka One

[turbid maple]

See https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/calculate_functions for details on how calculate works

[high eagle]

I see

[remote shell]

oh no i used my favorite font

anyways

[tall wharf]

😭

[next timber]

i still am so confused about this whole thing, the values in card.ability.seal ARE being changed by the code, I've checked it I'm 100% sure it's happening, so WHY does card.ability.seal in loc_vars only ever return their initial values??

[turbid maple]

also note it's good practice to prefix custom things you add with a mod prefix just in case

SMODS.calculate_context({ yourmodprefix_change_suit = true, other_card = self } or smth

aaaaand also note the other discussion that Card:change_suit might not even be called becaue SMODS overrides things

[hushed field]

How does the return table work, when calling SMODS.calculate_context? I'm trying to parse the code for it, but it's unclear to me what information is passed through all the way back, as it goes through quite a lot of functions

[quartz ravine]

New tarot card checking in.

[next timber]

kitti

[deft niche]

@rain slate I keep getting an arror at this line when booting up the game

says there's an unexpected symbol near 'local'

[dim lynx]

you didnt screenshot the line numbers

[deft niche]

it's the one I have highlighted

[dim lynx]

oh nvm you edited

sorry.

[deft niche]

no it's fair

[dim lynx]

i think you need some , after your tables

[quartz ravine]

that is a joker? Can you paste the whole code. I don't understand what it is supposed to be doing here

[dim lynx]

youre also defining things in a table which i dont think you can do (?)

[deft niche]

yea 1 sec

[turbid maple]

you do not need local

[tall wharf]

why is it in return

[dim lynx]

that too

[high eagle]

would i also need to say "not context blueprint"

[deft niche]

🤷

[turbid maple]

actually yeah i just saw what you're doing you do need local you just wrapped what you're doing in a table for some reason

[quartz ravine]

I think they are right. return after doing your enhancements, you cant' return a multiline statement (well, not normally)

[tall wharf]

please move it out

[turbid maple]

handling blueprint is done in a joker specific level

[high eagle]

i see

[deft niche]

`SMODS.Joker
{
key = 'j_harlequin',
loc_txt =
{
name = 'Harlequin',
text =
{
'All played {C:attention}numbered{} cards gain a',
'random {C:attention}Enhancement{}, {C:attention}Edition{} and {C:attention}Seal{}',
'when scored'
}
},
atlas = 'a_harlequin',
pos = {x = 0, y = 0},
rarity = 4,
cost = 20,
blueprint_compat = false,
eternal_compat = true,
perishable_compat = true,
calculate = function(self, card, context)
if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play and context.other_card:is_face() == false then
return
{
local editions =
{
{ foil = true },
{ holographic = true },
{ polychrome = true }
}
context.other_card:set_edition(pseudorandom_element(editions, pseudoseed("harlequin")), true),

            local enhancements =
                {
                    { mult = true },
                    { bonus = true },
                    { glass = true },
                    { steel = true },
                    { gold = true },
                    { stone = true },
                    { wild = true },
                    { lucky = true }
                }
            context.other_card:set_edition(pseudorandom_element(enhancements, pseudoseed("harlequin")), true),

            local seals =
                {
                    { red = true },
                    { blue = true },
                    { gold = true },
                    { purple = true }
                }
            context.other_card:set_edition(pseudorandom_element(enhancements, pseudoseed("harlequin")), true),
        }
        end
end

}`

[turbid maple]

jokers need to explicitly handle in its calculate function which parts of its effects are copiable by blueprint-likes and which are not

[hushed field]

also just an fyi, that code will set edition twice, never seal. There's also poll_[whatever] functions for seals, editions and enhancements, so you don't have to set up a table yourself each time

[turbid maple]

SMODS.calculate_context will automatically handle blueprint and all that you do not need to bother

[quartz ravine]

Side note: anyone hear the extended jazz fusion version of the balatro theme? this has been kicking around my brain for days since I first heard it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJi6m7R8ADY&list=PLhFVkxwhjLxpU2_eSvOwSQ131u8-BhUHb&index=2

[deft niche]

when declaring the lists?

[turbid maple]

you do need it

you just wrapped all your code in a table for some reason

I only took a brief look and assumed you're building a table

[deft niche]

so like, no need for curly brackets?

[high eagle]

what context would i put in the joker itself, then? (sorry im new to this)

[hushed field]

btw, void, do you have some insight in how the return table works for SMODS.calculate_context()? I'm trying to return some string information in a return value for a mod-specific mechanic, but I seem to be bumping my head against where and how I can make that actually show up in the return table

[quartz ravine]

try this @deft niche

            
    local editions =
        {
            { foil = true },
            { holographic = true },
            { polychrome = true }
        }
    context.other_card:set_edition(pseudorandom_element(editions, pseudoseed("harlequin")), true)

    local enhancements =
        {
            { mult = true },
            { bonus = true },
            { glass = true },
            { steel = true },
            { gold = true },
            { stone = true },
            { wild = true },
            { lucky = true }
        }
    context.other_card:set_enhancement(pseudorandom_element(enhancements, pseudoseed("harlequin")), true)

    local seals =
        {
            { red = true },
            { blue = true },
            { gold = true },
            { purple = true }
        }
    context.other_card:set_seal(pseudorandom_element(enhancements, pseudoseed("harlequin")), true)
end```

i added an extra check for context.other_card because sometimes I have encountered that being nil. and lua is not chill with nil

[turbid maple]

sorry I never looked at what return_table does

[hushed field]

ah shame. I guess I'll keep digging around and trying to print answers to the log, haha

[hard flume]

What if I made this a world in my mod...

[deft niche]

much appreciate it

still getting some errors, I'll see what I can do

[quartz ravine]

What the heck yall

I export my sprite from esprite, it has ~18 colors

It gets backed up into google photos. I download it. Now it has 4600 colors somehow?

[high eagle]

what is the purpose of the starting underscore in "_card_change_suit"

[quartz ravine]

remove the comma after editions @deft niche

you don't need a trailing comma after your local variable declaration

[deft niche]

ok
but then I get another error, 1 sec

[rain slate]

oh god

remove the commas after the function calls

[high eagle]

heres what i have so far:

[rain slate]

and uhh you need to use different functions to set seals and enahncements

[quartz ravine]

‼ I found the issue. Google photos is doing some weird shit. It actually makes my 2kb sprite bigger

It makes it 5kb and also looks like poo emoji

[rain slate]

you're even using enhancements in the seals part...

[quartz ravine]

Storage Saver, so efficient it increaes the size of your files!

[rain slate]

yes, remove the commas after the function calls

[quartz ravine]

jesus christ show us your line numbers

[rain slate]

it will still not do what you want but it will be syntactically correct

[deft niche]

they disappeared this morning idk what to do abt it 😭

[quartz ravine]

you dont need commas at the end of each line

[deft niche]

tho the line of interest is always the one I have highlighted

[rain slate]

remove these

[quartz ravine]

My man. What I sent to you did not have commas. also I fixed like eight of those errors my man

[deft niche]

done

[rain slate]

ok and now there should be no more syntax errors, but it won't do what you want because there's still some things that need to be fixed

[deft niche]

copy pasting it f'd up the spacing so I just tried to fix the errors myself

also because if I let another person do the code for me then where's the fun!

[deft niche]

I'm all ears

[rain slate]

for one, set_edition should only be used once here, because we're trying to set editions, enhancements, and seals, and enhancements and seals are not editions so we can't use set_edition to set them all

[deft niche]

oh and thank you, now it doesn't crash

[high eagle]

this is what i have so far

[rain slate]

the second one is that we should use the seals table in the final one

instead of enhancements

[deft niche]

fixed

[quartz ravine]

people here want to help you because we are all mired in agony trying to implement our own stuff and basically falling apart

[next timber]

i was RIGHT, the card argument in loc_vars IS fake

so FUCK.

what do i do about that.

[wintry solar]

it's only sometimes fake

[rain slate]

oh also I think seals shouldn't be a table of booleans it can just be ```lua
local seals = {
"Red",
"Blue",
"Gold",
"Purple"
}

and it seems setting a seal is easy and can just be done with ```lua
context.other_card:set_seal(pseudorandom_element(seals, pseudoseed("Harlequin")))

[deft niche]

you mean without the table?

[gentle rain]

is there anything wrong here

[rain slate]

what?

[high eagle]

anyone here with knowledge of contexts that can help?

[rain slate]

you forgot a comma after name

[deft niche]

this

you mean with or without the table you described above?

[thorn ridge]

How would I go about testing my jokers.
Is there a mod or something I can use to just spawn them in

[gentle rain]

same issue, still crashes with the same error

[hushed field]

eremel, would you happen to know what kind of info gets passed to SMODS.calculate_context()'s return table? I've been trying to figure out how to use it, but I have mostly just been running into a wall, haha

[quartz ravine]

Yes, on line 25 you are using this synax #6# which means 'use the sixth variable provided to you in loc_vars and you don't have a loc vars defined at all

[rain slate]

ah there seems to be a few other missed commas, which are after key and after atlas in the Joker one

[rain slate]

DebugPlus lets you spawn in Jokers from the collection with CTRL + 3

[quartz ravine]

also this

[rain slate]

what seems to be the issue here?

[quartz ravine]

You can put the game in debug mode and do it without debug plus. But debugplus does add a lot of cool extra stuff

[tepid crow]

there's also SMODS.poll_seal, which might respect seal rarities etc more? not sure, I don't know the specifics

[deft niche]

still nothing sadly :/

[gentle rain]

fixed it ty!!! didnt know how important commas were lolol

literally never programmed in my life i will probs ask dumb things in here :P

but ty for the help hehehe

[rain slate]

np

[gentle rain]

yaaaaaay :D

[deft niche]

neat art

[hard flume]

Hihi :3

[high eagle]

eh ill come back to this l8r

[next timber]

i think it is fake here because its on a tooltip for a seal, which is incredibly annoying because i really need to get access to the actual card data

its probably a very bad idea but i wonder if i could just check the hovered card's stats and use that

[earnest perch]

Has anyone gotten Reverie to work or is it too outdated?

[hushed field]

it's being maintained on a new git!

[neat plover]

i need this to : Every card played has a 1 in 10 chance to trigger this joker. When triggered, every card played next hand gives +20 Chips and +2 Mult.
can anyone help me???

[earnest perch]

Dumb question but how can I find it then?

[hushed field]

you wanna check the pinned comments #1226234529413468190

[neat plover]

im lost af

[earnest perch]

ty

[hushed field]

this code doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You're checking for debuffs and subtracting hands, but that's not the effect you're describing

no wait, I'm reading it wrong, the hands are of course set on the card, not the actual hands in the game

why are you setting hands? It now triggers multiple times? Also, judging by the localization keys, I assume this is mostly just a kitbash of paperback jokers, right?

[neat plover]

yep

[hushed field]

you're setting and checking some variables that you're just not using as well, huh

It'l trigger twice after being activated as well, currently

[neat plover]

changed it for testing purposes

[hushed field]

your contexts also don't fit the contexts you'd want this to trigger in. if you want every card to give chips and mult, you need to be in context.individual, not context.main_scoring, which is used for modifiers on cards

[deft niche]

going insane trying to make this work
i'm not even sure the code enters the function at this point

[hushed field]

as this is a joker, you want the first main_scoring to also be joker_main

[neat plover]

ok trying that

it does trigger now

[hushed field]

the items you're selecting are tables, while you wanna be passing strings to set_edition

I've not seen set_enhancement before, is that an actual function of the game I've forgotten about? or added to SMODS very recently?

[dim lynx]

anyone know what was changed in new smods versions which stop this code working? it works properly in alpha build but does nothing in beta one. ive tried looking for reasons why and am stumped.

[hushed field]

You'll wanna do set_ability, and again, make sure to pass proper syntax, instead of mult = true, which I don't think would set anything

[tall wharf]

is this faier

[deft niche]

someone suggested me to use SMODS.poll_seal and SMODS.poll_enhancement but they don't seem to work either

[hushed field]

That might be me, because that's the proper way to do it and make sure your code is future proof. That way if another mod adds content, or you decide to add enhancements, editions or seals, you don't have to set them by hand. But even if you'd use those functions, I'm still sure you're not using the set functions properly

[deft niche]

can you help me do that?

[dim lynx]

@frosty dock if you know maybe.

[tardy wind]

maybe g.hand ?

[hushed field]

I haven't done anything with seals yet, but I have a card that also sets the edition and enhancement for playing cards, which you can check for syntax https://github.com/icyethics/Kino/blob/main/items/Jokers/doctor_who.lua

[deft niche]

thanks a ton!

[tardy wind]

context.scoring_hand is still good

get_id also could be deprecated

[hushed field]

the section starting at line 52. Ignore everything else, because a lot of it uses custom mechanics for my mod, so that'll just be confusing, haha

[quartz ravine]

hi @wintry solar does post_injection hook not fire when the object is first rendered? I thought that would be a convenient place to do some setup for a special booster pack but I can't get that handle to get called, in the logs

[tall wharf]

omg hello balatro goes kino person

[hushed field]

hey hey aiko

[neat plover]

yall, how do i retrigger a card? (real stupid question, ik)

[deft niche]

how do I tell the function which card to apply modifiers to

is context.other_card: fine?

[hushed field]

yes

[deft niche]

ok

[warped marsh]

https://github.com/Steamodded/examples/blob/master/Mods/ExampleJokersMod/ModdedVanilla.lua
look at suckin my buskin

[hushed field]

you'll also not need to check for it in an if statement, because I think it's always there if you're checking context.individual. But no harm in doing so either, I guess

[next timber]

im actually starting to get a little worried that im gonna have to scrap the black hole seal after already programming the hard part because of something as stupid as not being able to show the right values in the tooltip lol

[quartz ravine]

what's giving you grief?

[neat plover]

ok, but how do i retrigger the first and last card played?

[deft niche]

did this and it still does nothing

[next timber]

i have a seal thats supposed to grow stronger as you play it, but because of the way loc_vars works for seal tooltips, it seems like i have no way of actually showing the increased values, as the card argument is a fake card made using the default config, not the updated real values

[hushed field]

there's a retrigger context. Just check the position in the scoring_hand context

[wintry solar]

Hmmm?

[neat plover]

check the position?

[hushed field]

in the array. context.scoring_hand[1] is the first hand, for example

[quartz ravine]

Hi Eremel! I have a booster pack that correctly always spawns cards of a certain special edition. Well, I thought it woudl be cool for the pack itself to have this edition effect, when it shows up in the store.

I tried to use post_injection to make the booster pack apply an edition to itself, so it would render correctly in the store, but I could not figure out if this was the right usage

[neat plover]

but for last hand, do i for loop the whole hand?

[hushed field]

i'm checking the generate_ui function for a seal, and it should only make a fake card if no card exists, I think. you could add a hook for seal.generate_ui that sets the card if it's in play 🤔

I'd have to see exactly where the generate_ui code gets called to see why it'd be making a fake card in your case

If you print other information of the card in the loc_vars, that are unrelated to the seal, does it match in any way?

[next timber]

if i just print card it's literally just { seal = {...} } with no other variables im pretty sure

[thorn ridge]

I know this is messy and very wrong, but im trying to learn, (its a bunch of jokers smashed together rn)
This joker is SUPPOSED to gain 15 chips every hand but have a 1/6 chance of restting to zero every hand.

[next timber]

the docs say it generates fake cards for tooltips, and seals have their effect descriptions in tooltips so

[hushed field]

for the last hand? You wanted it to be the last card, no?

there's specifically a syntax to get the last item in a table, but I'm blanking on the correct one, but you'd quickly be able to google that, haha

[red flower]

context.scoring_hand[#context.scoring_hand]

[hushed field]

i'm dumb, that's how you should do it, haha

[hushed field]

you don't need to use events for what you're trying to do. Additionally,y ou're stacking them, which definitely overcomplicates things. Would you mind indenting your code, btw, it makes it a bit easier to read

[hushed field]

Ah okay. I guess you could hook the generate_ui for seals and work around that. Is there a reason you want the black hole to be a seal and not an enhancement, btw? Scoring related buffs to me feel more enhancement than seals, after all, and that would also solve things, haha

[next timber]

i guess hypothetically i could make it an enhancement, but idk, the revive is a seal and they're kinda meant to be a pair, and also the texture works nicely as a seal

but if it saves the grief i can prolly make it an enhancement

[gentle rain]

where are the joker abilities located in the files of balatro?

[hushed field]

the text or the code that handles them?

mostly in card.lua but in truth literally all over

[gentle rain]

code that handles them

im trying to figure out probabilities rn

[turbid maple]

card.lua contains most joker ability effects by name

[thorn ridge]

It is indented but discord isn't doing it for some reason, and i get the events part, but im still confused on how to actually do what i want

[turbid maple]

weird ones like Splash get handled elsewhere

[gentle rain]

i got +6mult working in game and i know how to implement the x6 mult the same but having it trigger with probabilities is where im lost

[hushed field]

ah, that's good to know, haha. A screenshot might be helpful too!

[gentle rain]

also dont know the text color for probabilities or a lot of things so knowing where the joker descriptions are stored would be nice too

[hushed field]

{C:green}

[gentle rain]

cheers

[strong jacinth]

Does anyone know why this doesnt work?

local t = {}
t.insert("Gold")
local card
for i, v in t do
  if v[i] == "Gold" then
    card = SMODS.create_card(set = "mycustomset", area = area3, key = v)
    area3:emplace(card)
    i = i + 1
  elseif v[i] == "Steel" then
    card = SMODS.create_card(set = "mycustomset", area = area3, key = v)
    area3:emplace(card)
  end
end

[turbid maple]

https://github.com/Steamodded/examples/blob/d43316d97bc927f3de431dd84c0283d41e69761a/Mods/ExampleJokersMod/ModdedVanilla.lua#L344

[gentle rain]

aaaaa ty!!

[turbid maple]

This is a reimplementation of the banana

[wintry solar]

You can either use a drawstep to draw the shader on your pack or use set ability to give it the edition afaik

[quartz ravine]

Thanks for the reply!! Is Set_ability exposed on the Booster itself?

[hushed field]

you have multiple calculate functions, that won't work!

[thorn ridge]

How should I go about putting them all together properly them, into one

[glad osprey]

how would i implement this

[hushed field]

that's what contexts are for! when calculate is called, which happens a lot, you get context, which is why you use if statements to check for the right context. In your case you want to just check for context.joker_main, and in there check your probabilties, and then after that the rest of your logic

[thorn ridge]

Like this?

[hushed field]

You're checking probability without doing anything with it currently, for example, which happens at the end of the round. I think that's because you've based it on gros michel, which makes sense, but the reason that it checks probability in context.end_of_round is because that's when it can disappear. You want probability to be checked every time your joker grows

[red flower]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[hushed field]

Yes. In this case, you'd increment the current chips in the if statement. You want an else statement to set it to 0, if it fails, and after the if statement, (But not inside of it!), you want to return the chips

[quartz ravine]

wow that was weird

[glad osprey]

ooooh free money @dapper monolith check this out

[thorn ridge]

?

[hushed field]

yup. Now all you need is a return!

[quartz ravine]

wow Lua is the least null safe language I have ever used

[thorn ridge]

I am a certified lua hater so this is gonna take a bit to get used to

[hushed field]

so many checks just to make sure 🥲

[next timber]

ok converting black hole to an enhancement is giving me more grief than i thought, where do cards store their enhancement data?

[hushed field]

if card and card.ability and card.ability.extra and ad infinitum ❤️

[wintry solar]

Yeah, every center object should have it

[minor furnace]

Is this like, play a 6 with 6th sense and DNA?

[hushed field]

enhancements are abilities! What's giving you grief?

[strong jacinth]

-# bump

[quartz ravine]

I can run inspect() and see that the return always has a property. And yet when I try to log it out like so, it's nil

            sendInfoMessage("created joker card of " .. jokerInfo.label, self.key)```

[turbid maple]

mods censored the free money opportunity this world is truly unfair

[minor furnace]

Is there any other way to achieve this effect?

[next timber]

mainly just that everything so far has been written with seals and now i gotta adapt all that to work with enhancements

[hushed field]

your code needs some context because I have no clue what you're trying to do, but also you're just setting local card, without defining what card is

[tall wharf]

me when if G.GAME and G.GAME.blind and G.GAME.bling.config and G.GAME.blind.config.blind and G.GAME.blind.config.blind.key then

[hushed field]

enhancements are pretty doable! Or maybe I've just made too many at this point, but it'll give you a whole lot less grief!

[red flower]

at some point i decided to stop nil checking until it crashes

[minor furnace]

Better nest the conditionals just to be safe 🙃

[thorn ridge]

is this all, or do I need more in the return

[hushed field]

you wanna use chips, not chips_mod, because chips_mod will skip the message, iirc, but I think this'll work! I'd recommend just trying it and if it crashes, it'll tell you where it went wrong, haha

[glad osprey]

yea

[next timber]

so for example i'd just adapt card.ability.seal.chips to card.ability.chips?

[hushed field]

give me a sec to check just to make sure 😛

[next timber]

oh well for chips specifically would it actually be bonus

lol

[hushed field]

That's how I'm doing it, because that way it stacks with bonus chips from hiker etc.

(The Sci-Fi card enhancement might give you some hints as to formatting :P)

[hushed field]

yeah, it'd just be card.ability.bonus

[strong jacinth]

does an ConsumableType need an atlas?

[hushed field]

should've spotted it earlier, but that's definitely the mesaage= we are checking line

[next timber]

ok now if this works i can finally get back to the hell of summing up every possible way a card can have chips/mult/xmult/money lol

[hushed field]

smods has you covered, haha

[neat plover]

so how do i make a card give more mult and chips when scored?

[thorn ridge]

whats wrong with it, I see what line it is but cant see why its not working

[hushed field]

no, it's not a card with a sprite

[neat plover]

without enhancements

[hushed field]

there's a comma at the end. It'll also do nothing, because you're setting an undefined variable that doesn't get called

[hushed field]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Perma-bonuses

[red flower]

the return should be inside context.joker_main too or it will do the effect in every single context

[neat plover]

no, not like hiker, but when its is scored and the joker is active, give more mult and chips

[next timber]

hm?

[hushed field]

the perma_bonuses page has basically every bonus a playing card can have, unless a mod adds a new one

[hushed field]

no clue what you mean, then

do you just mean when it's scored? Like suit mult jokers??

[quartz ravine]

@wintry solar , that worked great, thank you

[neat plover]

kinda

[next timber]

im not seeing stuff like bonus here though

[high eagle]

@turbid maple could I DM you about balatro help if that’s alright? You were a big help earlier

[strong jacinth]

If i create a consumable type, does it automatically show in the collections

[warped marsh]

heya im trying to make it that when the boss blind is defeated, the mult resets to 1 :)

[hushed field]

oh maybe I'm misunderstanding then. I thought you meant the perma bonuses cards can have, that are listed on that page

[wintry solar]

Nice

[turbid maple]

I only offer help in this channel when I'm actively procrastinating at my minimum wage job (right now) but feel free to dm me sure

[high eagle]

I see

Makes sense

based tbh

[turbid maple]

boss makes a dollar when i make a dime thats thats why i complain about lua on company time

[hushed field]

i feel you so much on this, haha

[next timber]

maybe? i want to access every single guaranteed way a card can give chips/mult/xmult/money when scored, so for example with chips it'd be default amount (10 for faces, 5 for fives, etc), bonus from bonus cards, the amount from foil cards, hiker bonus,

[thorn ridge]

@hushed field Something dont seem right

[turbid maple]

also im a sad soul that works on sundays so feel free to ask

[hushed field]

{C:green}1 in #3#{} is incorrect

[thorn ridge]

What should it be

[warped marsh]

sad soul can you please help me :))

[hushed field]

you want the number between the #s to correspond to the relevant item returned in the loc_vars, but index. So #3# will be the third item in that list. In your case, you want the fourth

[neat plover]

better question: how do i make a joker give mult like suit jokers

[hushed field]

I'm not entirely sure how editions are checked in this case, but everything else is in the perma bonuses!

[hushed field]

context.individual

[warped marsh]

do you mean like Jimbo?

ah

[neat plover]

yeah, but how DO i add mult in the return{}????

[hushed field]

you add mult in the return

[next timber]

actually that's sorted lol it's literally just card.edition.chips

[neat plover]

like that

[hushed field]

Not to be annnoying, but that's literally how it works, haha

[warped marsh]

heres what i coded, it could be of some help

[neat plover]

?????

[hushed field]

yes

Did you try it before asking? haha

[next timber]

how do i check what name string SMODS.has_enhancement is getting from the card you feed into it? i think it's returning false and i dont know why

my assumption is i typed the name of the enhancement wrong so i wanna know what its checking for

[wintry solar]

What do you want to gather this for?

[neat plover]

it works

[thorn ridge]

@hushed field Is there something wrong with the probabilities here, The joker is currently always not activating its buff

[neat plover]

i tried an earlier version, and it didn't work

[next timber]

black hole enhancement, if played and scored it will destroy all other scored cards after scoring and gain their values

[wintry solar]

You can use post triggers to easily grab that

Especially if you just want the main scoring of the card

[next timber]

sorry, how would i do that? i have no clue what a post trigger is :p

[thorn ridge]

@red flower

[red flower]

I don't see anything wrong. What are the odds and how does the rest of the function look?

[thorn ridge]

1/6

[hushed field]

is it not triggering or are you just unlucky? haha

[thorn ridge]

I got no trigger 10 times in a row.

[hushed field]

I've spent time bugfixing a 1/3 odds that didn't trigger for like 14 cards in a row

[red flower]

that's low

[thorn ridge]

wait a minute

I might be dumb

it needs to be 1/6 chance for it to reset, not for it to gain

im stupid

there

lemme try this now

it works now

lets go

Awesome. I think Im understanding how all this works alot more

Thanks guys

[next timber]

originally i was just making this mod for myself but after all this work im putting into actually making it functional theres no way in hell im not sharing this lmao

[thorn ridge]

Im trying to make sure I understand what im writing

[hushed field]

you can thank me by getting 50 friends to play Balatro Goes Kino and have them all give me playtest feedback 😛

[gentle rain]

is this how pseudorandom is implemented? i tried with 3 oops all 6s and it didnt trigger
if im understanding it correctly the pseudorandom value is arbitrary

[hushed field]

Realizing that me not knowing shaders is a boon, because otherwise I'd be spending too much fucking time getting each spell to have its own visual effect

[hushed field]

yes! the value there is a seed to make sure that seeded runs always have the same odds happening

[gentle rain]

rightright

[deft niche]

what's juice_up()?

[thorn ridge]

epic

[next timber]

makes it do the jiggle it does when it's scored, i think?

not 100% sure but i think thats it

[turbid maple]

it makes the card go bwop

[deft niche]

i tried because I thought the same thing but gave me nullreference

[gentle rain]

hhhmmmm

[hushed field]

Makes it shake when it's called. You need to call it on an object

[gentle rain]

how come the 3 and 4 vars brick when changed by oops

[deft niche]

called it on other_card, is it wrong?

[frosty dock]

remove card = self

it's trying to juice up what you pass there, which fails because self isn't actually a card

[next timber]

man i wish there was a faster way of reloading mods than having to close balatro and reopen it

[deft niche]

oh okok

what's the right syntax to make the joker juice up?

[frosty dock]

it happens automatically

[tall wharf]

uhhh

[neat plover]

hear me out, is this even possible????

On first turn with no discards, retrigger first and last card played 2 additional times.

[frosty dock]

yeah why wouldn't it

[tall wharf]

i think it's kinda weak tho

[neat plover]

"burglar"

[dim lynx]

john smods when you get a chance could you gander @frosty dock

[tall wharf]

yeah but chad does it every hand

[neat plover]

"high card"

[tall wharf]

sock also does it every hand

[neat plover]

that would retrigger 4 TIMES, not accounting if you have other retrigger jokers

[deft niche]

got it
it seemed like it wasn't doing the animation but it's actually connected with my other issue

[tall wharf]

yeah but only on one hand

i don't think you're planning to win with one hand with burglar anyway

[neat plover]

that still is 4 retriggers for 1 card

[deft niche]

right now the effect works, applying all 3 addons to each scored number card, however the replacement effect happens immediately when the hand is played, instead of after each card is scored, how do I fix it?

I tried using other contexts but then the effect simply doesn't trigger

[neat plover]

"photochad and buskin comeback"

[next timber]

man i cant wait to be done with black hole cards so i can add asbestos cards already

[gentle rain]

bleurgh my brain is getting zapped with this

[tall wharf]

i get what you mean by high card but wouldn't it be easier to just retrigger 4 times if hand is high card

[dim lynx]

what do you mean replacement effect

[tall wharf]

i still think it's a bit weak

idk

[deft niche]

the function that replaces each card's enhancement, edition and seal

[neat plover]

now i need to code it to show you its not

[dim lynx]

im not sure i understand, but if you want a function to run after scoring you would want to use context.after not context.individual

[tall wharf]

sorry

[hushed field]

For that, you wanna set it in event

[tall wharf]

i guess i was wrong

[red flower]

add a func = function() field to the return and move all the previous code to that function
basically all the calculates run before the animations are played so you need to put it in the return for the correct timing

[red flower]

or this

[tall wharf]

(you would get cooked easily by the height)

[deft niche]

oh ok I'll try

in the rounded brackets you mean?

[tall wharf]

also don't forget to return true

[red flower]

no, like

return {
    func = function()
       -- your code
    end
}

[next timber]

lets gooooo black hole is destroying cards again

[deft niche]

i'll try

[next timber]

should i change the message that pops up when it destroys the other cards, or should i leave it as the placeholder "Yum!" lmao

[tall wharf]

hello n

[red flower]

helloaiko

[tall wharf]

do you know how fire is rendered

[red flower]

carefully

[tall wharf]

i haven't gotten to work yet on the challenge background

[red flower]

no idea but let me check

[tall wharf]

also does love 2d not support coloured fonts

I was gonna have these stars be emojis

[deft niche]

like this? it crashes my game

or does it have to be a separate return function?

[gentle rain]

how would i make two context.joker_main events trigger after each other? the first triggers fine but the second does nothing and i dont think theres anything wrong with how the event happens

[red flower]

you're missing a comma after end

[red flower]

put the second return table in a field called extra

in the first return

[tall wharf]

i don't think you need the message anymore?

[deft niche]

ok done
but it's still working like before, nothing changed

[red flower]

then you might need an event

[gentle rain]

second return table? what do i need two for

i dont mean to be rude im just confused

[deft niche]

oh boy

[gentle rain]

full script

[deft niche]

I'll be 100% honest, I have zero idea how they work

[tall wharf]

think about it

if the first one runs successfully

it would just not run anything else after return

[gentle rain]

it doesnt need to check?

aaaa right that makes sense

should i do a second calculate function then?

[red flower]

ok, looked at your code and there's a better way to do it

if context.joker_main then
   return {
       mult = card.ability.extra.mult,
       xmult = (pseudorandom("brimstone1") < G.GAME.probabilities.normal / card.ability.extra.odds) and card.ability.extra.Xmult or nil
   }
end

[tall wharf]

i think i should just make a tutorial for custom jokers for new calc as a video

[red flower]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Guide-‐-Event-Manager

[gentle rain]

im using a video from november of last year as my main reference, is that outdated?

[red flower]

yeah

[tall wharf]

yes

[gentle rain]

yeah i thought it was weird how different that video was from the example mod someone else posted

[tall wharf]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/calculate_functions

[gentle rain]

it you do that itd be much appreciated!!!

[tall wharf]

yeah i think i should do a new calc joker tutorial

what do you think n

[next timber]

stupid question but how do you set the enhancement of a card

[gentle rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp-4U5TlbxY

this is the one i was following

[red flower]

something like this playing_card:set_ability(G.P_CENTERS.m_gold, nil, true)

[tall wharf]

https://github.com/Steamodded/examples

[deft niche]

this worked for me

the first string randomly gets one of the available enhancements, but you can set it to whichever you want

1 sec

[gentle rain]

this is what im using now yea

[frosty dock]

uh tbh that looks terrible. If it worked before, then better calc definitely broke it

I assume you're trying to score cards held in hand as if they were played?

[dim lynx]

yea

[deft niche]

i'm really struggling to understand,
like why does my message only trigger upon scoring but the card modifiers get applied immediately? they're in the same function

[frosty dock]

I can't think of a clean way to do that without patching the smods calculation pipeline to specifically include such scoring.

[next timber]

i mean if i need it to be a specific modded enhancement

[red flower]

because what you return gets handled at the correct time but everything else in calculate is handled before scoring iirc

[deft niche]

shrug, sorry

[deft niche]

but the function is inside of return

[frosty dock]

Once the PR on blind calculation I've been working on is merged, you could move the cards to G.play on context.press_play and later return them to hand, though I guess that's a slightly different effect given it doesn't also score as if held in hand

[mellow marsh]

does anyone know how it could be possible for my mod's lovely hooks to be loading but my main mod file doesn't? someone is running into an error and that's the only way i can interpret the error happening

[red flower]

no idea

[gentle rain]

trying to implement this and its consistently crashing, saying theres an unexpected symbol near the final } on line 47

[next timber]

ok figured it out, G.P_CENTERS["m_boplatro_blackhole"]

[red flower]

did you define any conflicts in you smods metadata?

[mellow marsh]

nope

[red flower]

you're missing an end

[mellow marsh]

i do define some dependencies though

[gentle rain]

aah ty i got it running

[red flower]

is that person missing any

i think smods doesn't disable the lovely patches when there are missing dependencies

[mellow marsh]

i see, that's likely it then

[gentle rain]

working good, ty! :D just gotta figure out why the text isnt green now

[red flower]

green lowercase

[frosty dock]

by the time it's able to notice, they're already loaded

[red flower]

makes sense

[gentle rain]

yeah i assumed and already changed it lol, ty though!!

youve been veryvery helpful i appreciate it a lot :3

[frosty dock]

it'd have to bootloop, and even that can fail due to syntax errors

[gentle rain]

my fully implemented child,,,, its so very simple but im still quite proud hehehe

[next timber]

BLACK HOLE IS WORKING!!!

pretty damn powerful too

[gentle rain]

also i assume that you dont need to call out the +mult or xmult message? the gros michel example said you had to but n's code never specifies the message and the messages work fine

[neat plover]

retrigger

[deft niche]

i changed context.individual to context.before but now the effect simply won't trigger

[tall wharf]

i cannot read the badge 😭

[hushed field]

told ya you'd figure it out! 😄

[red flower]

now it gets handled automatically

[hushed field]

I'm currently going through every joker in my game to mark every joker that vibes as wet ❤️

[next timber]

i just need to get black hole to absorb xmult and money and it should work

[tall wharf]

yeah it does that now

[next timber]

sogy

[tall wharf]

if you add the message it will show up twice

[gentle rain]

yeah i set it to #ffffff ill make a proper one eventually

[unkempt thicket]

This took forever to code 🫠

[gentle rain]

the badge reads "testjoker" lol

[next timber]

i have a 10 of spades that gives 239 chips and 28 mult, and it grows more powerful every time you play it with other cards

this is peak

i think i'm gonna leave the "Yum!" placeholder popup it's funny

now to texture the card

[gentle rain]

now you gotta have mayhem the mime

[tall wharf]

mayhem the mime

[gentle rain]

.w.

[tall wharf]

initial shop items cost 0 dollar

[gentle rain]

spicy i like it

[tall wharf]

more reliable discount tag

[next timber]

now i gotta go get my hands on a card texture to modify

[hushed field]

if we assume that Splash is the wettest vanilla joker, and jimbo's entirely a dry joker, would you classify seltzer as wet? Would you qualify diet cola as wet?

[next timber]

i would classify them both as wet

[hushed field]

I swear this is relevant to modding balatro, but would the movie Cocktail, who's poster is Tom Cruise, vibe as wet? 🤔

[deft niche]

up

[hushed field]

individual and before aren't interchangeable

[turbid maple]

ask jimbo if this joker is creepy or wet

[next timber]

id class it as fairly wet

[deft niche]

what should I do then?

[next timber]

what kind of mechanic needs to know if a joker is wet lmao

[tall wharf]

what

[hushed field]

As a little easter egg, the Gremlins joker copies itself when played with thematically wet jokers

[tall wharf]

also hi void

[next timber]

lmao

thats amazing

[hushed field]

I'm not sure what you're trying to do with the change, sorry! Is it just about timing?

[next timber]

sounds pretty powerful if it's negative too

[deft niche]

like, how do I know if two contexts are interchangable and what changes if they are or aren't

[turbid maple]

hi mr. aikoyori

[tall wharf]

how do i concentrate on learning Japanese

do i gotta add japanese wordle to balatro

[next timber]

yes

[hushed field]

if the contexts have the same variables they pass along, you can change them without issue. For example, context.before and context.after largely share the same values. context.individual, however, often uses context.other_card, which is not present in a lot of other contexts. You learn by checking the wiki and making more jokers, honestly

Are you trying to fix the animation timing for the change effect?

[deft niche]

ok I think I get it

[turbid maple]

reimplement Anki in Balatro

[hushed field]

Because that's entirely unrelated to context. A good rule of thumb is that calculations are done entirely separately from animations, so anything you want to happen visually can't be timed by changing the context. I'm sure that's not always true, but it's what I try to keep in mind

[turbid maple]

Anki Deck.

[deft niche]

the juiceup animation works correctly, but the other function is called immediately as the hand is played, for all cards, instead of when each card is scored

[tall wharf]

yooo

might actually go hard with my letter mechanics

tho I'm not gonna draw all kanji

[deft niche]

the other function being: changing the cards' modifiers

[tall wharf]

I'll just use a font

like https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Mochiy+Pop+One

[hushed field]

I think that if you put the code in an event with the immediate timing, that should work? I'm not entirely sure, I always have to mess around a bit with events to get the proper timing. I'd suggest how to do it with the method N suggested but I'm entirely unfamiliar with the details of returning funcs

[deft niche]

I already implemented that function but sadly everything's the same

I guess I have no choice but learn events
pray for me

[turbid maple]

blind that gives you kanji words and makes you spell their reading in hiragana

[hushed field]

events have a lot of complicated details but the chances of you needing to mess with those are incredibly small.

[deft niche]

wait didn't you just say that I need to mess with events?

[tall wharf]

yes

[hushed field]

I've only had to really understand events once, and that was when I added the alien abduction mechanic to Kino. But for most things, it's mostly a chunk of lines that look intimidating. My main reasoning tends to be 'if it's a visual element, I'll put it in the events system'

Yeah, sorry! I just meant that it looks a lot scarier than it is, haha. The messing around with timings is just changing a single string around and seeing what feels better!

[deft niche]

ah okok

I really feel like shit rn 'cause I've read the first lines of the events article on git 3 times and I still don't understand anything
like, ok you can declare events, but where do you do that??

[tall wharf]

this shit does take a while to wrap my head around so

[hushed field]

In the code! Let me see if I can find a joker with a very simple effect that uses them

Because that's why it feels complicated. All you really need to know for the most part is 'I copy the G.events thingy and the return statement at the end'. You only need to understand them more in depth once you start getting into very complicated ideas

[deft niche]

'I copy the G.events thingy and the return statement at the end'
yeah no my brain is def too small for this

is it a Lua thing of a SMODS thing?

if it's lua i can look up a guide on yt maybe

[hushed field]

haha, it's not, it's just feeling complicated

I suspect it'll be a LOVE2d or balatro thing, not a lua thing

[deft niche]

sucks

[zealous glen]

what are you trying to do

[hushed field]

In the joker I'm currently working on, I'm checking if one of the other jokers is splash, and if it is, it will animate, flip over, change into a copy of this joker, and then flip back.

the uncommented code here is what the event manager code is

Everything commented inside of it is what gets added to the event queue. The details of that are complicated and I can't explain it because I don't understand it. all you really need to know is that for the most part, visual stuff works if you wrap the G.E_MANAGER stuff around it, as it means it won't happen immediately in the calculation, but instead is done a little bit later

oh, the if context.joker_main there should also be commented

[zealous glen]

I think the concept behind an Event queue isn't too hard. I just don't know thunk's implementation (and it has some questionable choices IMO)

but that's thunk code

well maybe not all questionable choices

some I can understand, others are tied to their hard-coded-ish implementation of Jokers, etc.

[deft niche]

basically what this currently does, is:

1. You play a hand;
2. Immediately upon playing the hand, any numbered scoring cards are applied a random enhancement/edition/seal;
3. The cards score (WITHOUT applying their new modifiers);
4. Each time a card scores, the "chaos" text pops up and the joker juices up;

what I want it to do is:

1. You play a hand;
2. The cards score normally;
3. If the card that's scoring is a numbered card, a random enhancement/edition/seal is applied, the "chaos" text pops up and the joker juices up;

[thorn ridge]

bepic

[zealous glen]

Check out Spinagogue Champion from Cosmos and Midas Mask from vanilla, maybe

Those do grant benefits prior to scoring

[deft niche]

what's the difference between an event and a function in this case?

[deft niche]

midas mask applies the enhancement before scoring

[zealous glen]

I said that

[zealous glen]

An Event is a container for something that will happen later, which involves some kind of function

[hushed field]

functions are any code in a function. An event is a function that is added to a queue with a specific timing for when it will do what it does

[zealous glen]

but depending on your personal limitations, you can use a later context and only use Events how Midas Mask does

[deft niche]

where is that condition declared in your case

[zealous glen]

Midas Mask and Spinagogue Champion have some Events only to change the visual aspect of cards

If you apply the Enhancements in a later context, they won't apply during scoring

because they'll be late

but like Midas Mask and Spinagogue Champion, you'll need to hide them temporarily

[deft niche]

they already do not apply during scoring

[zealous glen]

Due to how vanilla code is structured

[deft niche]

ooohh

ok maybe I bit off a bit more than I could chew

[zealous glen]

I just realized you're Homosuck Caliborn

[deft niche]

I wasn't expecting it to be this difficult haha

[zealous glen]

It's not necessarily hard, except only Enhancements can do this in vanilla because thunk only needed it for Midas Mask

[hushed field]

The timing I don't actually declare. I can see why it's confusing, because you're trying to actually understand how it works, haha, but with events you basically are going to have to understand it very fundamentally to actually get why and when they trigger, instead of just learning through experience. In this case, there are already events in the queue, and my code just says 'the moment you have the time'. The way balatro works is just that that will always be after calculation if your event is set during calculation

[deft niche]

yeah I'd appreciate it if you stopped stomping my head

no pressure tho

[zealous glen]

lol

[next timber]

what would a black hole card even look like?
i'd mayyybe try a shader to do some cool warping stuff but that's an edition thing and i am NOT changing what type of modifier it is a second time

[zealous glen]

Spinagogue Champion from Cosmos had us implement that for Editions

So you'd need to copy that and implement it for Seals

Unless SMODS provides some functinality for it now

[hushed field]

i am only now realizing your pfp isn't knuckles from sonic the hedgehog 3 and knuckles, Victin, damn

[zealous glen]

There were some Draw Step changes, so maybe

[deft niche]

ok I kinda get it

I'll try something similar

[zealous glen]

https://tenor.com/view/triggered-stare-homestuck-aradia-megido-gif-11377238206634885354

[next timber]

how many damn homestuck pfps are there here i've seen like 3 today

[zealous glen]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1229122387308707930

[minor furnace]

oh no

not homestuck

[zealous glen]

Bunco had a Black Hole shader

[zealous glen]

says dangling ropes

[next timber]

bunco?

[deft niche]

damn, this is peak

[hushed field]

just trying is honestly the best thing to do. As I said, I tried to really understand events and I just got a headache, so I mostly just shorthand 'if it's something I wanna do visually, I put it in an event'. If you don't define the timing, it'll just default to immediate, so I just copy it over whenever I need it, haha

[minor furnace]

I'm going to assume this autocorrected danganronpa

[zealous glen]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1220084296346501201

[zealous glen]

no I just find it funny like a parent calling a video game console a Nintendo to annoy their kids

[hushed field]

this server needs more cinephiles and less homestuck dorks imho, it'd be good for my download numbers

[hard flume]

We need more Yumedorks

[zealous glen]

It's more like, if something needs to happen "later" it needs to be in an Event

[next timber]

im personally a fan of "dangling grandpa"

[zealous glen]

All scoring happens instantly, then Events are handled in order

[zealous glen]

unfortunately that was too nsfw so we had to cover grandpa with towel

[minor furnace]

what about danger roomba

[next timber]

your favourite film is pans labyrinth thats already a guaranteed download or 10 from me

[hard flume]

I like gandan paron

[red flower]

i have never watched a movie

[hushed field]

that's true, but it's rarely that that isn't something you want to happen visually, no? I definitely use events for non-visual stuff but adding that in there does get complicated when to explain when the main use case is definitely going to be 'later'

[warped marsh]

How would one add a custom sound effect to their mod :3

[zealous glen]

where's the deep phylosophical kino psychological horror RPG Maker indie game mod

[minor furnace]

holy Pan's Labyringht mentioned??

[hushed field]

not even the ygo movie in which yugio and jayden fight kaiba in space?

[minor furnace]

very good movie

[zealous glen]

idk check L Corp

[gentle rain]

do i need to do anything specific to make my jokers appear in the shop or are they already able to appear in the shop without anything fancy

[hushed field]

will happen automatically!

[red flower]

specially not yugioh ones i hate cartoons and anime

[gentle rain]

yaaaay :D

[hushed field]

explains why your pfp's eyes are closed, that way it won't have to see the ygo card art, ofc

[deft niche]

like this?

[neat plover]

whats the problem?

[red flower]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/SMODS.Sound

[hard flume]

My mod.

[zealous glen]

Yesn't. Some things are related to visual aspects, like destroying cards. Earning money or creating consumeables mid-round usually requires an Event to handle the dollar buffer. Etc.

[hushed field]

you don't wanna do it in the return in this case, but otherwise, I think that works! haha

[neat plover]

here is the joker code

[deft niche]

nvm crashed

[hushed field]

Ah yeah, that's true. I'd classified seeing the numbers being eased and a consumeable actually appearing also as visual, so it already was kinda tied to it, but that's an overly broad definition of visual

[zealous glen]

Player playng your mod with the Jokers yume nikki guertena baseball batter mercy idk what omori does

[next timber]

this seems cool ill probably take a look at it soon, but i dont wanna just steal someone elses shader lol

[next timber]

i mean i know thats all shaders.

but i dont wanan steal a shader from another balatro mod for my balatro mod

[red flower]

you're missing a comma before message

[hushed field]

please check the line it tells you the error is at. You'd see that you're trying to do 'context.context'

[neat plover]

am i setting the context wrong????

[red flower]

also the event is entirely wrong lol

[deft niche]

It was 3pm when I told myself, "yeah I can implement that in half an hour"
6 hours later

[next timber]

right now for black hole cards i have a black background with a blurry orange border but it looks kinda lame tbh lmao

[zealous glen]

you're missing the good movies like Transformers 4, Fast and Furious 12, White Chicks, and Adam Sandler Slop 37

[deft niche]

ok? can you help me understand?

[red flower]

you need to put the event inside the func not the func inside the event

[hard flume]

Lmao nah.

[neat plover]

i love copy pasting!!

[hushed field]

I have concepts for every FF and transformers movie I just don't wanna overwhelm my joker pool with 1/3 jokers being a car franchise 😛

[zealous glen]

To be fair, if a vanilla function handles the Event for you, I'm not counting it. Otherwise, all of scoring happens in Events ;P

[deft niche]

i was taking this as reference

[zealous glen]

I'm just using it as a reference. Maybe you can ask Firch for tips

but I think it's kind of a classic shader

because it's a classical kind of transform

[red flower]

it's confusing because events also need to have their own func inside them lol

[zealous glen]

the hard part would be "screenshotting" the screen

[turbid maple]

@tall wharf did you have a blind that gives you infinite hands and discards can I steal that code

[deft niche]

so I need to create a parent function for the event... ?

and keep the rest as is?

[red flower]

just put the event ouside the return and see what happens

[zealous glen]

e.g. Firch allowed me to use some of their code in my mod (which wasn't all too different from vanilla code, in some ways, but still).

[tall wharf]

infinite discards

just go look on my GitHub

it's somewhere

my mod has a shitton of code

[zealous glen]

I read FF as the Final Fantasy movie

[quartz ravine]

Is this a real context window?

context.retrigger_joker_check

I am trying to retrigger other jokers but my code is never running

[quartz ravine]

The final fantasy movie!

[hushed field]

i did consider that theatrically released one. Still might if I have a fun idea for a classic FF spell to add to the spellcasting pool, haha

[zealous glen]

did you configure the additional option

[quartz ravine]

ohhh how do you configure that?

[zealous glen]

I have one FF spell Joker except it's a reference to a FF reference

Lvl. ? Death

[next timber]

is it actually possible to give shaders to card enhancements?

[quartz ravine]

I'm going to write the name of my mom logo in FF font, Fickle Fox

mod not mom

[next timber]

lol

[zealous glen]

I'd also like to know but you can maybe define draw or use SMODS.DrawStep (the later is mostly for global layers)

[quartz ravine]

I did it to my editions, not sure about enhancements. I guess you could put a do nothing edition, then make your enhancement also apply the edition

[zealous glen]

something like this

-- SMODS optional features
SMODS.current_mod.optional_features = {
    cardareas = {
        unscored = true
    },
    quantum_enhancements = true,
    retrigger_joker = true
}

naturally you don't need all of these

[warped marsh]

yes i went through this xd, still struggling to understand it

[quartz ravine]

Quntum jokers!?

[zealous glen]

no

Quantum Enhancements

[thorn ridge]

where is the link to the balatro source

[zealous glen]

nowhere

copy-paste the executable and unzip the copy

[hushed field]

check your lovely dump

ain't gonna be the source code, but it's what smods turns it into, so if you're making an smods mod, easier to check that

[quartz ravine]

my lovely lovely dump

[next timber]

i suck at art im gonna deal with visual headaches later, for now i just wanna get as many mechanics out the way as possible

[hushed field]

that's why you pick a theme for your mod that let's you get away with simple art

that's how N and I both have mods with so many fucking jokers

[next timber]

the theme for my mod is "random bullshit and inside jokes"

[zealous glen]

There was once the emoji mod

[quartz ravine]

someone needs to make the pantone colors, it' sjust sitting there

[quartz ravine]

This worked perfectly! Thank you

[next timber]

i was originally making it for my friend group but im prolly gonna make a version that reskins the inside jokes so i can share it here

[zealous glen]

But I don't have that many good and implementable Joker ideas yet, since I don't mind having placeholder art

[thorn ridge]

Wehre is the code for all the jokers in the source

[agile thistle]

under what conditions is the debuff cross shown on the shader? these don't properly show it until clicked

[hushed field]

mostly in card.lua

[quartz ravine]

the source jokers are kind of oddly done in two or three areas.

I would say its easy to learn by looking at ExtraCredit or cryptid, who use SteamModded and make it very easy to understand

[neat plover]

this is n't retriggering

[zealous glen]

idk if Cryptid is that helpful

It's occasionally helpful

[red flower]

I'm trying to figure out how to make a joker grant permanent abilities to another joker without having to manually add a check for that to every calculate, any ideas?

[zealous glen]

Do you need the toggle?

Can't you just use the check directly?

[strong jacinth]

Uhh

What did i do

[zealous glen]

give the Joker a child

[neat plover]

ill set it to false afterwards, for only the first turn with no discards to trigger

[zealous glen]

like Tokyo Grandfathers idk I never watched it

[deft niche]

@red flower like this or did you mean something else?

[red flower]

no I mean like an extension to calculate

[stiff locust]

what if you make a second invisible joker

and store it off screen

[zealous glen]

that was kind of my idea

[stiff locust]

and use it as a medium

[zealous glen]

give the Joker a child

[red flower]

I'm worried about performance honestly

that's going to happen a lot in the mod

[stiff locust]

as long as it doesnt use an update function that runs every frame you'll be fine

[zealous glen]

ok how about giving each Joker a deity

and the deity handles all of its worshippers

[red flower]

they already have one it's Ra

[stiff locust]

wait this is actually a fire mod idea

[zealous glen]

so it's not doubling the number of Jokers

it's just +1

[stiff locust]

jokers have "allegiances" to like a deity

and if you collect enough per deity it unlocks passive effects

[red flower]

makes sense

[zealous glen]

I have some Poker Hand effects that depend on invisible Jokers in the sky

[neat plover]

is card wrong in the return ?

[zealous glen]

you can see the invisible Jokers here

[hushed field]

you could patch in an extra scoring check that iterates through all jokers and checks them for upgrades. Same way enhancements and card upgrades work

[zealous glen]

on top of the screen

[strong jacinth]

What did do

Lul

[deft niche]

as in?

[stiff locust]

calculate 2

[zealous glen]

a retrain of calculate

[red flower]

i was thinking about that too

[stiff locust]

new funky mode

[tall wharf]

new

[deft niche]

oh ok

[red flower]

calculate 2 the calculating

[neat plover]

i think thats the problem right?????

[hushed field]

context.repetition functions similar to context.individual, that's probably why you're getting things you're not expecting

[deft niche]

like, calculate = G.E_MANAGER:add_event after the main body?

[zealous glen]

nekroz of calculate

[hushed field]

I don't think it'd be too hard to add, considering it'd just be a function that checks everything that you then patch in

[zealous glen]

there's a built-in function for that

[neat plover]

...ok...?

[red flower]

smods was better when it was mult_mod now all the new calculates ruin the fun

[zealous glen]

well

a built-in function to patch into

which handles essentially everything

[zealous glen]

that's how I did Zodiacs

[hard flume]

Hmm... I had an idea, but I'm not sure how easy it would be

[hushed field]

please check some other code to see how it's done. You'll see where the errors are coming from. Your error log also will show a list of functions. If the crash log points you towards a vanilla function, it's not that function that's crashing, it's one of your additions that passes information to it that then crashes the game, for example.

ahh wait did i reply to the wrong person?

[neat plover]

its not crashing actually, its just actually not retriggering

[hushed field]

no wait, nvm, i fused two things, i'm confusing myself, haha

[deft niche]

I'm really confused right now

[tall wharf]

omg

people are making mods

[hard flume]

I wanna add a Dream Enhancement that triggers a random effect each turn, but I'm not sure how easy it would be

[hushed field]

depends on how comfortable you are with programming things. My spellcasting system is almost that, just not always random!

[next timber]

wait this looks kinda clean actually. i mean it probably needs some modifications but its nifty

[hard flume]

I love programming :3

[warped marsh]

I thought you put your custom sounds in assets > sounds > (your_file.ogg)

[hushed field]

ah sorry, I think I'm messing up conversations! That was for sure not related to your problem, but to 'N's joker upgrade thingy!

[deft niche]

oh okok

sorry

[hushed field]

I think the spells.lua I have is pretty readable, haha, so you can check that out

[hard flume]

Oki oki!!

[neat plover]

i would prefer it crashing, because i could see whare

[hard flume]

Once I do that, I can work on revamping all the Yume Nikki Jokers I've made. I feel like they're all a bit... bland

[hushed field]

card in the return statement is not the card that retriggers. context.repetition is checking to see if a joker returns repetitions, and then retriggers the card that is in context.other_card that many times

[warped marsh]

SMODS.Sound({ key = 'shutter', path = 'shutter.ogg', })
this is the code, btwwww

[next timber]

oh my god it looks amazing on diamonds

[hushed field]

haha nw, i'm getting messy

[deft niche]

so do I really need to create a second calculate function or was that a joke?

[hushed field]

you definitely don't!

[neat plover]

that means i set context.other_card or smth???

[hushed field]

No, context.other_card is always set in context.repetition. You don't set it yourself

[hard flume]

That sounds so fun tbh

[zealous glen]

:0

[neat plover]

im lost....

[next timber]

great minds think alike

[hushed field]

the event just goes in the proper context. It doesn't need to be in a separate calculate function, or in its return function!

[thorn ridge]

how would i code a joker to trigger every certain amount of hands,
is there an example I can look out, the games source is weird to look at

[zealous glen]

Yeah!

[hushed field]

check some other code to see how that context works, is my recommendation.

[next timber]

thought he implementation isnt quite the same

[deft niche]

so wait, I don't understand what I did wrong

[zealous glen]

I also have this. Art features gore in reference to Goya's Saturn Devouring His Son.

[deft niche]

goya my beloved

goated joker

[hard flume]

What if I added a Kirby Joker that ate the Joker to it's left and to it's right, combining the effects...
That would be too much work me thinks.

[hushed field]

does this not work? I haven't read it carefully, but that should work, no?

[neat plover]

I GOT IT!!!!

[zealous glen]

It functionally works but it's missing the generalized Joker stats functionality

[thorn ridge]

whats the difference between chip_mod and just chip

[deft niche]

1 sec

[zealous glen]

yes

[deft niche]

line 86 is this one

[next timber]

i assume you didnt mean to write "ocard"

[zealous glen]

loyalty card

[next timber]

oh no you did

hm

[deft niche]

it was most definitely intentional, yes

[next timber]

strange

[zealous glen]

too late

define it outside

also

[hushed field]

oh, try setting ocard outside the event

[zealous glen]

you'll need to use can_calculate

[deft niche]

oh ok, like, right before the event?

[deft niche]

what kind of parameter is this and where do I put it

[zealous glen]

function

Basically it helps you detect if you can calculate with the card

you might need tests to see if the card exists

right now it detects if a card is debuffed or if it's waiting to be destroyed

[deft niche]

like this??

[zealous glen]

no

you redefine it inside

don't

I'd also add to the beginning and context.other_card:can_calculate(true)

it's a bit optional at the moment

could be useful in the future

but anyways

inside the function

it's good to test if the card exists

something like ìf ocard and not ocard.removed

[deft niche]

what do you mean by this?

are you referring to can_calculate or ocard?

[thorn ridge]

@hushed field What would I write for a joker to trigger every X amount of hands

[deft niche]

oh my bad

[zealous glen]

Oh I just realized you used can_calculate wrong

[hushed field]

keep a counter that you increment every hand, and check if it's your desired value

[agile thistle]

stiiiill lost here. Why. Why????

[zealous glen]

Loyalty Card

[thorn ridge]

oh yeah that makes sense

[zealous glen]

Idk but maybe you’re applying the shader after the game decided what to render

And clicking recalculates what’s supposed to render

[next timber]

i have drastically fucked up the black hole card WHY does it gain x1 mult for every +1 mult it gains

im. so stupid

[zealous glen]

You could solve it or you could fake a click

[agile thistle]

the thing is this is just the normal debuff param

and it still properly does the color

[hushed field]

It doesn't look great, but I just left it in like that, haha

[agile thistle]

so i'm thinking it has to do with position updating???

[hushed field]

it's got to do with it being in the deck, instead of a hand or play cardarea

[next timber]

what's the difference between card.ability.x_mult and card.ability.Xmult??

[hushed field]

spelling

[zealous glen]

[neat plover]

why is the syntax wrong

[agile thistle]

Gonna mess with the shader itself to see if that produces anything meaningful

[red flower]

what's array?

[neat plover]

nvm fixed it

[deft niche]

It works now! there's only one thing bugging me

[hushed field]

congrats on getting that working, gowly 😄

[next timber]

when absorbing xmult from a card, should black hole cards multiply or add their own xmult by it?

right now it's add but that acts kinda weirdly

[neat plover]

welp

[deft niche]

thanks a lot, it's still not perfect and I wouldn't have done it without your help

I appreciate y'all's patience haha

[hushed field]

multiply would be incredibly bonkers. That's cryptid level balancing, haha

[red flower]

well, yeah, what's array?

[neat plover]

its what ice told me to use i think

[hushed field]

i can assure you i didn't

[next timber]

i mean, that's how it would act normally right? if you have two cards with 3x, that would multiply out to 9x, so if you combine both of those cards it could reasonably be argued that you should get 9x

[neat plover]

i want to die. i didnt see the space

[red flower]

lol

[next timber]

lol

[frosty dock]

lol

[hushed field]

it would mean that any card that upgrades any a card with X0.5 for example would incredibly overcharge that enhancement, haha. It's gonna depend on what you think is fun 😛

[next timber]

would it not. half the enhancement and make it worse

i may be misunderstanding

[hard flume]

Hmm... How would I go about making a red light, green light Joker?
I have no idea how that would function at all

[hushed field]

Well upgrade with x0.5 would mean it'd get added onto a baseline x1.0

[next timber]

ill leave it as add for now

[turbid maple]

the joker switches lights in real time and if you play a hand when its red jimbo guns you down and you die

[hard flume]

Lmao no. Surprisingly not squid games.

It's actually a Yume Nikki reference

[neat plover]

ARRGGGHH IT STILL DOESNT TRIGGER

[next timber]

chooses a random hand type per round
x0.5 mult for that hand type while green
x2 mult while red
chance to change on hand played
?

[deft niche]

tangent question, how do I declare a legendary joker's 2 sprites?

[hard flume]

Oooo actually not a bad idea

[hushed field]

doesn't it crash, with this code?

[hushed field]

soul_pos!

[neat plover]

nope

[deft niche]

ah?

[frosty dock]

pos is the position of the background sprite

[deft niche]

ah okok

[frosty dock]

soul_pos is formatted the same way and acts as the position of the floating sprite

both just need to be on the same atlas

[neat plover]

i wish it did actually

[deft niche]

got it, thanks a lot

I just don't understand where to put it,
do I just add another variable to the atlas called soul_pos?

[next timber]

is this what the cool kids call a "synergy"

i don't think it was ever localthunk's intention for there to be playing cards that give x19 mult before any jokers have been applied

and yet. black hole revive synergy

[neat plover]

can anyone help????

[hushed field]

please indent your code better than, because it makes it very annoying to parse. I can't match with if statements tie to which end statements

[neat plover]

its tedious tho

[hushed field]

i guess i give up

[neat plover]

i dk how to debug this argghh

[agile thistle]

VSC with Lua extension has an auto-formatter

[thorn ridge]

Im stuck on how to translate this to SMODs

[woven merlin]

how do i use SMODS.add_card with custom jokers? smods function works fine with base game jokers but my custom joker crashes the game

[neat plover]

where is it????

[frosty dock]

the key needs to include your mod prefix

[agile thistle]

Ctrl-A -> Shift-Alt-F

[frosty dock]

j_modprefix_jokerkey

[neat plover]

thanks very much

[neat plover]

here you go then

[woven merlin]

thanks so muchhh

[thorn ridge]

Im struggling to understand how the Loyalty card works. I like see it, butn ot sure how to translate that to the SMODs format

[hushed field]

that's not indented in a readable way, man, sorry

[neat plover]

noooooo

[strong jacinth]

How do I use it???

[hushed field]

if it's on every hand, you wanna set a variable that's something like 'counter = 0' and every time you go to context.joker_main, you do counter = counter + 1. Then you check if counter == goalnumber and then reset the counter and return it

[thorn ridge]

I did that, but it keeps spitting out errors

[deft niche]

I'm having trouble making it so the modifiers of the cards change when the "chaos" text pops up, instead of their initial trigger

[hushed field]

you can add a card_eval_status_text() in the event! That displays messages without needing a return, for example. The exact syntax you'll definitely wanna check by checking the source code, though!

[neat plover]

i absolutely hzte this

[deft niche]

it's a balatro thing and not a mod thing, correct?

[hushed field]

I can only help depending on what the error is 😛 What's the error?

[red flower]

I'd recommend SMODS.calculate_effect instead

[thorn ridge]

Nvm, I had a syntax error, all my mistake are so dumb

I hate lua

So MUCH

[hushed field]

this might be the better way to do it, I just use an outdated method still, apparently, haha

[agile thistle]

I only don't like lua because some fun things arent available like += -= etc

[deft niche]

I'm seeing it being applied to stuff like chicot but I don't fully understand what it does?

sorry, wrong reply

[hushed field]

i bet it doesn't run because your toggle is only set when you discard while you can't discard

[thorn ridge]

i just dislike the syntax

[hushed field]

You don't need the toggle for what you're trying to do. Just check that in the if statement

[hushed field]

i miss += so much

[neat plover]

oh, well thats stupid

[agile thistle]

the then and end is my biggest gripe because it's harder to read than rainbow brackets

[deft niche]

wouldn't that make it so that the 'chaos' text appears earlier, instead of the modifiers happening later? maybe I'm missing something

[hushed field]

i really recommend playing around a bit with your code so you can understand what you write. Add some print or debug statements, so you can what triggers or not, and such

[minor furnace]

really dumb question, can you put a soul effect onto a consumeable card?

[hushed field]

It's how I'm doing all effects like it, and it works for me. If it creates issues, I haven't noticed them yet, but I think 'N's suggestions of using calculate_effect is definitely going to be the better one!

[hushed field]

yes!

[unkempt thicket]

Yes

[minor furnace]

ooh ok awesome!

[deft niche]

can I find info on it on git?

[hushed field]

I'm not sure actually 😬 I haven't checked it on git, I've just messed around with it by copying it and changing things to see what it does. Sorry I can't be of more help there

[hushed field]

damn, what mod is that? That looks sick