💻・modding-dev

[tall tangle]

🗣️ GET OUT

[manic rune]

get_id()

:3

im autofilling for you

[timid star]

how do i force a blind reroll...

i need my comsumable to reroll the boss blind

[manic rune]

uh

check how that Boss Reroll button works

-# i think debugplus has it too

[timid star]

[iron iron]

im trying to make a joker that turns 4s into an enhancement in my mod, this dont work

should i be having the for k, v in pairs thing

[manic rune]

i think its the context thats wrong

can you try putting a print() in there to see if it even runs

also, i suggest using

if context.before and context.cardarea == G.play and not context.blueprint and run for i,v in ipairs(G.play.cards) instead

[plain apex]

is there a shop rate for specific consumable cards like how theres weight = for the packs? i've made all 4 of these and would like to make them difficult to find as they provide huge deck fixing

[manic rune]

pretty sure ther eis

[plain apex]

is it just a weight = because i had a weight = 0, in there and still managed to find them in the shop while trying to figure this out

[manic rune]

useful :3

[plain apex]

think it might be rarity = for that or i just got unlucky while trying to test this?

[quasi comet]

having some trouble with stickers, tried to put the keys of different stickers into compat_exceptions and it just doesn't exclude them?

[manic rune]

i dont actually know how to do that personally, but i believe some mods have already managed to do the same

[chrome widget]

This shader effect looks really good, esp with the static art as reference

[iron iron]

holy overpowered

[royal ridge]

overpowered, but in the same way baron is "overpowered" 😭

probably quite good if you get it early enough

[plush cove]

so I have a Joker where 10s, Jacks and Queens can be followed by an Ace to complete a straight

and the program works fine, but I am wondering: did I code it in a way that would fuck something else up compatibility-wise?

i don't think so but I would like some reassurance

[royal ridge]

ankh -> sell one copy

[iron iron]

not even early enough, you only need to get 10 rerolls to reach x1.5 and 20 for x2

[royal ridge]

it's only queens

who's to say you even have support for card xmult by the time you pick it up

[iron iron]

you can say this for literally any joker???
"who's to say you even have support for discards when you get yorick"

that doesnt mean its bad

[iron iron]

trib is only kings and queens

and is still very good

[royal ridge]

yeah? the thing is with yorick you almost always can discard

[iron iron]

you only need 20 rerolls (not a lot) to reach trib level power

[royal ridge]

yes, double the ranks, it's more flexible

[iron iron]

people flood their deck with one rank when using this anyway

no one goes for full houses with trib

[royal ridge]

maybe in white stake you could get away with doing exactly what you want

[iron iron]

but the fact this is rare is insane

this being only for queens doesnt mean its bad

wee is only for 2s

and is a very good joker

[royal ridge]

and trib doesn't require any rerolls and works on more cards

i think that's a very large increase in power

[zenith coyote]

Oh hey Toneblock :D

[iron iron]

you only need 20 rerolls to match the trib power

thats not a lot if you have good econ

[iron iron]

you reroll anyway

you dont really go out of your way to do it

[royal ridge]

hi fytos i'm being a bit stupid here

[zenith coyote]

Aren't we all 😌

I'll ask a question so you can look smart now

[royal ridge]

yeah i mean good economy is generally an aspect of all winning runs

[zenith coyote]

Soo I'm starting out with modding. Is there a list or something, that explains how many and what kinds of contexts exist?

steammodded lovely

[royal ridge]

is this an overpowered joker simply because it allows you to use that economy to get yourself a scaling trib?

maybe?

[chrome widget]

Yep, the SMODS docs have them!!

[zenith coyote]

Alr thanks

[chrome widget]

Cat image my beloved
https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/calculate_functions

[zenith coyote]

Cat..

[royal ridge]

yeah this is the one

🙏

[zenith coyote]

I'm going for climbing snack btw

...Again

[tall tangle]

Whenever @wintry solar is in chat, PLEASE rework Celadon Clubs. Using Royal Deck against it is a near-guaranteed softlock.

If it just didn't allow hands with the "disabled" card, that would still allow me to discard through my deck to find usable cards.
Straight up making the cards unselectable when it's a "type" that is LITERALLY MY ENTIRE DECK except for one or two stone cards (which did not get drawn to hand at start of round), it's... Upsetting. And completely impossible to play against.

[royal ridge]

yeah should be simple to figure out

just remember about ease_hands_played(1)

[zenith coyote]

I'm getting the hang of it much faster now I thibk

ease_hands_played?

[royal ridge]

you're gonna need it most likely

[chrome widget]

Anyway I appreciated the spirited discussion on the balance on the joker I guess?

[zenith coyote]

Oo balance discussion :o

Lemme backread

[iron iron]

yeah

[royal ridge]

it's not a discussion so much as a dumb argument 😭

i coulda entered a bit more respectfully

[tall wharf]

chat

i added this mechanic to my mod

[royal ridge]

average aikoyori day

[tall wharf]

so i added half the ascii specs to my cards

the current problem is that

should you be able make a better scoring hands if cards are all the same cases

omg celeste card collection

[royal ridge]

better hands if you have proper punctuation

[tall wharf]

or at least

first letter being capitalized

[zenith coyote]

Yes 😅
I agree with the baron remark, buut it seems like this is way easier to build towards than baron

• A basic economy allows you take this to the moon

[tall wharf]

it's gonna introduce a shitton of hands to the mix

which might be problematic later

but EH

[royal ridge]

ending with ? randomises mult a little, ending with ! multiplies mult, ending with . adds some flat mult

:peacelineatthephone:

[tall wharf]

mmmm

that sounds good actually

do i call those punctuations

[zenith coyote]

:D

[lavish lake]

your website is amazing holy

[tall wharf]

if you put a valid tld after period then the hand become website

and you get chips based on the status code of that website

i mean 600 - status code

[lavish lake]

this idea is the idea ever

[royal ridge]

smods https 🙏

[tall wharf]

so true

how does the idea sound

[royal ridge]

good but i'd think specific status codes giving more/less seems more interesting for the meta

[tall wharf]

the 600 - something encourages people to send a request to a real web server

[royal ridge]

ye that part is good

but you could also have teapot

[tall wharf]

ah

i mean

sure i guess

i mean i might just have to list things

maybe there should be a joker that checks it

[royal ridge]

idk how you would trigger some status codes though tbh

[tall wharf]

Curled Hair Joker

• If hand is a Website, send a request and apply the effect depending on the status code.

[zenith coyote]

If the status code is divisible by 2, add x chips
If the status code is divisible by 3, add x mult
If the status code is divisible by 5, gain $x

[tall wharf]

i was thinking curly fries

but that's a food

[zenith coyote]

Poisoned Curly Fries

Problem solved

[tall wharf]

cURL

[orchid scaffold]

what is the joker key for the default jokers in balatro

not the modded ones?

[plush cove]

j_

[tall wharf]

j_joker

for jonkler

[orchid scaffold]

why when i try doing j_triboulet it doesnt show up in my challenge

[plush cove]

j_triboulet

[tall wharf]

are you sure you banned the correct type

aikoyori's favourite challenge

banning chicot

[orchid scaffold]

oh im an idiot i did key=j_triboulet isteand of id=j_triboulet

nope still didnt work

[royal ridge]

make sure it's a string

(it probably is)

[tall wharf]

if code starts with 1 enhance all cards in hand
if code starts with 2 then X 20 mult
if code starts with 3 retrigger all cards
if code starts with 4 randomise x mult
if code starts with 5 destroy played cards
otherwise gain 5 dollars

this should be a common because websites are not an easy hand to make I'm pretty sure

it's based on niche situation when

• letters are enabled
• you have the period
• you can select that many cards in hand
• hand size

[primal robin]

localhost:

[tall wharf]

i mean if you're smart then yeah

you'll still need 9 hand size

[tall wharf]

oh right you can't use localhost

[primal robin]

127.0.0.1

[tall wharf]

I just check for the dot and valid tld

the internet deck

[zenith coyote]

Trying to find the context for being in-round but not having played cards yet, any ideas?

Can't seem to find it, if that exists

[royal ridge]

check for G.GAME.blind.in_blind

[iron iron]

this still aint working

print command prints nothing

[scenic horizon]

How do I check for seals and editions on a card? I just need something that returns true if a card has at least one of those things

[simple mural]

Where can I find a wiki or information about functions of the format "G.GAME"?

[tall wharf]

you look in source code :>

[royal ridge]

G.GAME has a lotta things

generally related to the current run

[wintry solar]

Just download the version that doesn’t have it 🙃

[royal ridge]

wait that boss prevents cards from being selected?? 😭

[tall wharf]

😭

crazy boss

[royal ridge]

who needs cruelblinds when you got "The Softlock"

[rose dragon]

new blind idea:
losing to it posts your long/lat in #📢・announcements
i think it would be pretty cool actually
X200 base blind size

[gilded blaze]

everything works but remove 😭

[hard flume]

Good morning chat

[gilded blaze]

I'm dying

this whole unexpected behavior is not debuggable

[rose dragon]

stop dying smh

[gilded blaze]

all the contexts are correct, all stuff works normally

all, even message, but remove

[hushed field]

I'd try context.destroying_card

[gilded blaze]

same outcome

[hushed field]

any hooks or patches that you've made that change destruction behaviour?

[gilded blaze]

nope

this piece of code is copy-pasted from Weeormhole deck to its sleeve

and somehow

Weeormhole deck works, but Weeormhole sleeve is only missing the remove

[hushed field]

are you sure it's the same outcome, btw? From what I know, destroy_card doesn't behave properly (I think it might not be in SMODS anymore? Though I'm sure I'm wrong on that)

no wait, I'm wrong, there's more going on there

ignore me, I'm misremembering, my own code does use destroy_card sometimes and works

[gilded blaze]

destroy_card still works

like I said, code is copy-pasted from deck to sleeve

[tall wharf]

Porcelain Plague

• All Cards debuffed until you play the one sole cards in your deck that isn't

am I cooking

[hushed field]

yeah, no you're entirely right, I was majorly confusing some stuff and just puking out wrong info, haha. I'd delete the messages if it didn't make you look crazy 😛

[gilded blaze]

[hard flume]

Friend made this for me

[hushed field]

so the message triggers but the destroy effect doesn't 🤔 Looking at the SMODS function that handle that, I don't quickly see why this wouldn't work. I'd save the issue and see if Eremel or Aure have some insights 😬

[tall wharf]

🏳️‍⚧️

[royal ridge]

[tall wharf]

the pill should look less busy imo

[gilded blaze]

the only problem being that remove works in SMODS.Back but not in CardSleeves.Sleeve

[hushed field]

btw, is there a proper SMODS way to change card create behaviour of vanilla packs? Or do I just patch it?

[frosty dock]

... huh

[hard flume]

Fair. But I like it as is

[frosty dock]

might be some jank with the way card sleeves hijack the back eval then?

[tall wharf]

also the font is kinda thin

[hushed field]

Ah, probably some jank that accidentally doesn't pass things properly.

[frosty dock]

you can take ownership of them

[hushed field]

Are there any other mods that are sleeve compat that have destroy effects on their decks? Maybe they have a work around already

[frosty dock]

there's take_ownership_by_kind to e.g. modify all arcana packs or whatever

[hushed field]

That does add my mod badge to them, doesn't it?

[gilded blaze]

you can disable that

I use take_ownership("Splash") in Tsaunami deck/sleeve

[hard flume]

True, but half of the tarot card have that thin font, and half of them dont.

[hushed field]

Ah okay, great. That'll do it then! Thanks 😄

[gilded blaze]

[tall wharf]

thin ones are the ones with long ahh names

[hard flume]

Tbf. Estrogen could be classified as a long name. As I said my friend made it for me, so im not gonna change it without their permission

[tall wharf]

it's not as long as incantation is it

[hard flume]

Fair, but still. My 2nd point stands

[hushed field]

8 letters is about the max I can make work with thick font, and that does get dependent on the letters, because the N, W, and M are wide as hell compared to the others

It's a cute art gift you got, Carrot ☺️

[hard flume]

It'd be mean to discard it or change it when my friend made it for me, so I'm gonna use it even if it's not perfect

[tall wharf]

hey I'll not judge

you can do whatever you want I'm just doing my nitpicky thing

don't worry about it if you don't wanna change

[hard flume]

That's fair, then

[tall wharf]

also I'm not that good at art I'm just rambling what i see so please don't take it too seriously

[hard flume]

Fair enough

[formal parrot]

Hello

[tall wharf]

i love miku

[zealous glen]

I had had the opposite idea for a Blind

But it’d be secret

[tall wharf]

😭

if you play this secret card all your hands are debuffed?

[zealous glen]

No it just debuffs the hand it’s in

Like Psychic

[tall wharf]

oh ok

[zealous glen]

Then a new one is selected

Anyways that was the raw concept

Idk if I like it

[hushed field]

I have a joker like that, which sets your scored chips back to 0 when you play that sole card

[verbal wyvern]

Hey can someone help me with something real quick?

Im trying to get a joker to give x2 mult when a steel card is scored but im having a hard time with the enhancement check

         if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play then
            if SMODS.has_enhancement(card, "m_steel") then
        
             return {
                card = card,
                Xmult_mod = card.ability.extra.Xmult,
                message = 'X' .. card.ability.extra.Xmult,
                colour = G.C.MULT
                }
            end
        end
    end
}

This is what I have rn

[hushed field]

card is the joker

you wanna check context.other_card

[verbal wyvern]

😭

context.other_card instead of cardarea right?

[hushed field]

no, cardarea is fine

SMODS.has_enhancement(context.other_card, "m_steel") is what you wanna use

[verbal wyvern]

OH

Thank you very much

I knew it was gonna be smth like that

Works perfectly now

[quartz ravine]

Ohhh, does Steammodded work on Mac as well? I saw it supports linux systems!

[frosty dock]

yes

[quartz ravine]

Sweet

[frosty dock]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[grand violet]

🔫

[frosty dock]

ty egg

[lofty copper]

hey i'm getting crashes whenever i try to cash out, while running talisman and saturn

[frosty dock]

is your talisman number limit set to vanilla?

it's a know issue that talisman is broken when on that setting

[lofty copper]

i have it on omeganum because i'm doing a deep endless run

wait vanilla is broken?

[formal parrot]

Heyy

[frosty dock]

probably saturn/smods incompat then

[lofty copper]

do i need a different version of smods then? or is there nothing i can do

[median fern]

I am trying to use SMODS.https and

[hard flume]

Do I have to do anything special for my tarot card to show up in boosters?

[frosty dock]

I can't know for certain if I don't see the crash, but this version of Saturn should do #1278357824975405200 message

[frosty dock]

no

[hard flume]

Cool cool

[lofty copper]

oh my god thank you so much it worked! Cheers
i have 1400 plutos so just them being on screen stunted my framerate so much lmao

seems like if you have both the "disable animations" on from saturn it always crashes at cash out, but if you use talisman's its fine. slightly annoying because talisman doesn't truly skip all animations, and is slower than saturn but oh well

[surreal marsh]

how do i patch a smod file? I found this reply "it doesn't rely on any mod folder name
'=[SMODS _ "src/utils.lua"]', '=[SMODS modid "path/to/file.lua"]'" but can't understand

[tardy wind]

just edit smods directly i guess

[surreal marsh]

i mean lovely patch

[frosty dock]

you put those as the target file names

target = '=[SMODS _ "src/utils.lua"]'

[formal parrot]

I keep reading your name john aura

[frosty dock]

aure*

[surreal marsh]

thanks

[hushed field]

john aura is what the rizzler evolves into at level 21

[zealous glen]

Recently I learned that the rizzler is a person and not a Platonic ideal

[hushed field]

one can be both

[zealous glen]

I think Plato disagrees

[hushed field]

that's true, but he didn't know about the rizzler

the art is in, now just the system that allows it to spawn 😄

[manic rune]

does it take a ss of my screen

[zealous glen]

Actually Plato was once known as the Riζζlυs

[zealous glen]

What does it do

[hushed field]

it reads your lips and makes you lose the game if you bad mouth it

[hushed field]

upgrades sci-fi cards when you use a planet

[zealous glen]

What’s a sci-fi card

is star wars a sci-fi card or a sci-fantasy card

[hushed field]

a card enhancement that gives 5 chips and 1 mult for every time it's been upgraded, and gets upgraded when it's scored

star wars is a joker, so it's neither, though it's of the Sci-fi Genre

[hushed field]

still gonna need to test if this is fun, but I don't doubt it's strong

[primal shoal]

does anyone know what the weight of the base booster packs in the game are?

[hushed field]

but because I'm spawning legendaries under weird circumstances, I do want it to be fun enough for the effort to be worth it

[zealous glen]

Something something hard and soft sci-fi

[latent portal]

Hey guys, does this concept sound cool?

Curses
A new type of upgrade that's more easily obtainable, giving an upside and a downside.

Example:
Curse of Jimbo
+10 Chips for every scoring card played
Jimbo now randomly appears and says a quip every so often

[hushed field]

you can see that in your dump, by checking for --booster packs in game.lua! Most of them aer 1

[hushed field]

star wars and 2001 are equally sci-fi when you're comparing it to an Adam Sandler comedy, so I'm luckily not going to be pendantic about those distinctions 😛

[zealous glen]

What about Click

[hushed field]

fantasy. Remotes are real technology, and the magical powers were given to it by an angel

also I fucking hate click

[zealous glen]

I have a similar idea, but mine are (Dis)enhancements which means they can be interacted with via existing systems

[zealous glen]

Maybe it’s an alien 👽

[zealous glen]

It made me cry okay 😭

[hushed field]

no Morty's definitely the angel of death

[hushed field]

which part? when he joked about having sex with his daughter the first time, or the ninth? 😛

nah i know people like it, sander comedies just rarely are my thing, haha

[zealous glen]

To be honest I don’t remember any of that, I was like a young teen when I watched it

I cried at the end

[zealous glen]

Sufficiently advanced technology etc.

[hushed field]

a quote from an author who clearly never read fantasy ❤️ (i know it's not said in that context but people miscite clarke about it all the time)

you're about to put me in rant mode as I start going into my very strong opinions on genre 😛

[zealous glen]

Rant away

-# I’ll leave and go back to work

[hushed field]

hahaha

i've been goofing here while i should be finishing up a client's assigment so i should definitely not rant honestly

[dense vector]

I can't help myself

Oh and btw I don't think I have ever watched a movie with Adam Sandler in it

[lyric wadi]

dont

[zealous glen]

Tell the client they paid for a rant and deliver it to them

[lyric wadi]

keep it that way

[hushed field]

He's in some great ones. I like Punch Drunk Love and Uncut Gems, as the basic 'i don't like Sandler but...' picks

[zealous glen]

For some reason White Chicks is popular in Brazil

[hushed field]

i love that you've commited to making that without having seen a Sandler movie, haha

[zealous glen]

It’s not related to Adam Sandler

[hushed field]

no i was gonna say, that's a Wayans brothers movie, right?

[zealous glen]

It’s just an example of a “bad movie” that’s popular (in Brazil)

For some reason

[hushed field]

I do have a hole list of Sandler movies to add to Kino, just because they're well known and good for the synergy system, but I'm hoping I can concept some effects for those jokers without needing to watch a bunch of them for ideas, haha

[zealous glen]

hole

[hard flume]

Why do I want to make Yume Nikki cards

[dense vector]

I know it's a meme to make a parody out of that poster

[hushed field]

i'll leave that in, that feels like sandler'd enjoy that typo

[zealous glen]

soporific

[zealous glen]

I thought Sandler mostly made movies to make money and hire his friends so they can also make money

[hard flume]

You know what. I think I will.

[hushed field]

that's my understanding as well, yeah. which seems admirable to me, haha

[hard flume]

I'll add Effects as unique consumables

[zealous glen]

My brain can only remember one actor at a time

Isn’t Nicholas Cage the same?

Minus the friends part

[hard flume]

I still want to add cooking to my Balatro mod. But that's for the future

[hushed field]

no, Nick Cage does movies to pay off his massive debts for castles

[hushed field]

Oooh, that's a fun idea, haha

[zealous glen]

That’s the making money part

[hushed field]

After playing Dredge I was playing around with adding fishing

[zealous glen]

Balatro but with crafting

[hard flume]

I mean I do plan on adding Potion Brewing

[zealous glen]

I did have an idea for a Joker like that

[hushed field]

Kino's spellcasting was going to work more like a crafting system before I felt like it was too much of a hat on a hat

[hard flume]

Farming would be necessary for that, though

[zealous glen]

@hushed field unrelated do you know Chespirito

[zealous glen]

There was a POC for a farming mod

[hard flume]

POC?

[zealous glen]

Proof-of-concept

[hard flume]

Oh

[zealous glen]

Well someone added a button that brought up the farming CardArea when clicked

[hard flume]

Cool cool

I'm going to work on the Yume Nikki Cards

[hushed field]

the comedian? I'm vaguely familiar with him due to having dated someone that loved El Chavo, but I've not interacted with anything of his outside of talking about that show, hahahaha

[zealous glen]

Yes. Recently I watched an English language video essay about him. Not sure it was the greatest but it’s rare to hear about him in the anglosphere despite his fame south of the US

[latent portal]

hey quick question because i forgot

how do i make a card give you money

[zealous glen]

Return dollars = … in the table

[hard flume]

Honestly I don't know why I decided to add Women as a Suit into Balatro. I thought it would be funny, but now I'm just confused why I decided to add it

Gonna keep it in

But still

[frosty dock]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/releases/tag/1.0.0-beta-0312b new release

[zealous glen]

😭

[latent portal]

kk

[dire palm]

I've officially released my Joker Pack. Where can I share it?

[faint yacht]

Get yourself a thread going in #1209506514763522108.

[frosty dock]

make a post in #1209506514763522108

🐌

[dire palm]

Okay. 👌

[frosty dock]

WHY AM I BEING 🍞 ED

icl that's not even real bread

[latent portal]

SMODS.Consumable{
    key = "jimbjoke",
    set = "JimboCards",
    loc_txt = {
        name = "Joke",
        text = {
            "Does nothing.",
            "{}",
            "Sorry!"
        }
    },
    atlas = "jimboatlas",
    pos = {x = 0, y = 0},
    cost = 1,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        return {
            message = "Nothing."
        }
    end,
    can_use = function(self, card)
        return true
    end
}```
im trying to display a message when the consumable is used but its not doing anything

[frosty dock]

if anything that would display nothing a LOT of times

pretty much when anything happens

[latent portal]

how would i do it properly?

[frosty dock]

using is a separate use function usually, but that doesn't support calculate returns

[tardy wind]

Do it in use maybe

[frosty dock]

i can't recall if you can do if context.using_consumeable and context.consumeable == card then

[tardy wind]

calculate cant be called on consumables by default

and use doesnt have context

[frosty dock]

it can

[tardy wind]

not on use

I guess it can be called if the card stays in the cardarea

[hard flume]

Hmm... For my Yume Nikki Booster, do I call it the Veranda Booster or the Nexus Booster?

[frosty dock]

it doesn't

[latent portal]

so how do i do it

[tardy wind]

lovely patches

I personnally made a giant lovely patch to the evaluate_play function so that I can call effects from my consumeables when used, I have to figure out text but it works

(unless I make negative jokers of said consumeable which would also work)

[hushed field]

to return a message, you could just card_eval_status_text where you'd otherwise return, right?

[tardy wind]

not on consumeables

since calculate isnt called

[hushed field]

card_eval_status_text is entirely separate from the calc function, is it not? or am I just misunderstanding the way that gets triggered?

[tardy wind]

its not separate

but it is used to display text from a card, said text will be displayed under/over a card depending on the cardarea

[wintry solar]

you can just throw a SMODS.calculate_effect anywhere that doesn't support calc returns

[rain slate]

where do I find the current score and the score requirement

[tardy wind]

G.Game.chips, g.game.blind.chips_amount i think

[rain slate]

I'll see if that works

[tardy wind]

that will be called/processed the same way calculate would ?

[hushed field]

this definitely works when it's in the Use function of a consumeable

I just tested it, it does exactly what you'd expect it to do

[wintry solar]

yeah calc_effect can be done whenever you want

[latent portal]

calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.using_consumeable and context.consumeable == card then
            return {
                message = "Nothing."
            }
        end
    end,
    can_use = function(self, card)
        return true
    end,
    use = function(self, card, area)
        return SMODS.calculate_effect()
    end```
Like this, right?

What do I put in the args for SMODS.calculate_effect?

[wintry solar]

no

not at all

[latent portal]

oh

then uh

what do i do

[wintry solar]

what are you trying to do

[latent portal]

when used:

• displays "Nothing".

that's it.

[rain slate]

where in the source files can you find the implementations of the vanilla cards?

[wintry solar]

take the table from your return and put it inside calc_Effect

[modern kindle]

alot of it is in card.lua

[rain slate]

yeah as usual I asked a question and then immediately found what I was looking for

[latent portal]

calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.using_consumeable and context.consumeable == card then
            return {
                message = "Nothing."
            }
        end
    end,
    can_use = function(self, card)
        return true
    end,
    use = function(self, card, area)
        return SMODS.calculate_effect(card.calculate, card)
    end```

like this?

[lyric wadi]

what context do i use to make a joker run some code once at the beginning of the run

kind of like an init kinda thingy

[tardy wind]

calling card_eval_status_Text in use ?

[hushed field]

yes

[tardy wind]

damn alirhgt

good to know

[hushed field]

i use it on custom planets to have them display a relevant quote when they're being used

[modern kindle]

good morning fine chatters

[hushed field]

but i wasn't sure if i actually just used that func for it, haha

[modern kindle]

i realized i didnt give a proper greeting

[hushed field]

a lot of mods either hook one of the other inits in vanilla, like ancient joker, or patch a function into the game init

[exotic island]

i made a funny https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1349392241571008583

[modern kindle]

anyway today i finally resume not lazing about and doing more shit

[lyric wadi]

ok so

how would i go about doing either of those options

and if there is a place i can yoink code look at an example, which one would you recommend

[frosty dock]

SMODS.calculate_effect({ message = 'Nothing.' }, card)

[latent portal]

ok so this doesnt work

[latent portal]

oh thanks

i get it now

if i use this, do i even still need the calculate table?

[wintry solar]

no

[lyric wadi]

or i guess i could do some jank bodge solution with like

[wintry swallow]

woah. i just downloaded your mod we had like super similar ideas LOL

[lyric wadi]

under add_to_deck or blind_start init a flag and then set the flag to false

so it only runs once

idk

actually add_to_deck would work

[modern kindle]

curse of free thought, ive discovered like half of my shit is simmilar to others

[lyric wadi]

though the downside is that all the values will not be initialised before you pick it up and therefore cannot be shown

but also

do copies of the same jokers share vars

[dire palm]

I didn't play any other Joker mod before that (apart from the Joker fusion mod) so I didn't know anyone else's ideas.

[lyric wadi]

cuz like i kinda dont want them to

oh well

[quartz ravine]

Now I have the hardest part of modding, coming up with a name!

[hushed field]

have you considered naming it after a spectral card?

[quartz ravine]

Like for the Mod overall. I was going to call it Pawlatro but saw that someone else already has that name 😦 😦

I could go for FoxDeploy Jokers, just straight up naming. Or Menagerie, since it's all about animals. Or Animal Endgame pack, since it's focused on end game jokers for more options than steel + mime + baron

[latent portal]

I just named my mod Cherry's Balatro Mod.

[dense vector]

Animalatro

[quartz ravine]

lol!

Genius

[dense vector]

I am so good

[modern kindle]

i went simple with mine, just called it Dilatro

[tardy wind]

names ?

[hushed field]

I named mine in a way that only tells you what it's about if you're on specific subreddits, or I guess watch a lot of Northernlion, haha. Which... in hindsight's not a great choice

[frosty dock]

name it after a card

[lyric wadi]

question chat

[manic rune]

is this balanced :3

[lyric wadi]

can you use code to edit the description in loc_txt

[manic rune]

yes

[lyric wadi]

shit

[manic rune]

you probably need to use generate_ui to generate your own descriptions in that case though

[hushed field]

yeah seems fine, if the score's on fire too long it'll burn down anyway

[manic rune]

i also didnt account for relic sets too

[exotic island]

check out the funny i finished https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1349392241571008583

[manic rune]

that will uh, definitely significantly make her stronger than that

:3 balancing my mod is painful

[zealous glen]

Amazing

[hushed field]

it's gacha inspired, no balance is the way to go

[lyric wadi]

shit, where do i learn that

god is this idea too ambitious

[manic rune]

#1338302514616995892

[turbid maple]

localization text gets loaded into some giant table that you could probably edit

[manic rune]

i learned generate_ui from that mod

:3

[lyric wadi]

ordo i resort to the bodgey solution that uses like 29 vars

[zealous glen]

What are you trying to do

[turbid maple]

youd have to figure out how its stored though it does some parsing

or could you not just have multiple localization texts and switch between them you can override the key iirc

[quartz ravine]

I do have some fun animal names.... Fickle Fox is one I like. Or Incremental Hermie, Benevolence.... Interesting

[zealous glen]

@lyric wadi this isn’t too complicated, for example: #💻・modding-dev message

[hard flume]

I'm naming my mod Carrot Field

Cuz it's my field I put my random ideas in

[onyx sonnet]

Could someone please explain why this doesnt work? i have prints for both checks and neither of them go through

[lyric wadi]

bingo joker

it generates a bingo board where each cell is a playing card (rank & suit, e.g. 7 or Q )
whenever a playing card is scored, it's daubed on the board
joker gives X2 Mult per completed lines

[exotic island]

i made some more, higher effort ones like this one https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1348461931631087647

[lyric wadi]

definitely out of my league but it feels like i can do this, somehow

[onyx sonnet]

do you need to edit loc text for that, i feel like editing the loc vars would be wiser

[hushed field]

not sure, i'd have to check but i don't think context.individual and context.check_enhancement are ever true at the same time

[lyric wadi]

see my shitty original idea is to just have 25 vars in the description that i set accordingly with a loop

like #1# #2# #3# #4# #5# and so on

and i would be able to work with that

[hushed field]

if you wanna really make that pop, you definitely want to get into generate_ui. But you can definitely do that without it

[onyx sonnet]

it wasnt working without it either so im not sure that would work

[lyric wadi]

but also that's a lot of vars and i feel like i can do better

[zealous glen]

I can think of some ways of doing it

[quartz ravine]

I use logInfoMessage, I haven't used print() myself

[zealous glen]

I made a lower effort one like Fish: https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1232074540633428028

[manic rune]

is this quantum enhancement shi

[hushed field]

I have some jokers that are quest or codex jokers, that randomly generate multiple variables that they display, and that's all just done through passing on into loc_vars. Even the icons technically wouldn't need generate_ui, i think, because you can just pass a sprite object, the same way you can pass on a dynatext one

[manic rune]

💔

[lyric wadi]

the main obstacle is how to present the board

[onyx sonnet]

yerp

[manic rune]

if only there was documentation on that

or just a mod which actually uses it 💔

[zealous glen]

I think you do need to create nodes to accommodate the sprites

[onyx sonnet]

is the syntax the same

[lyric wadi]

i think i can do the actual bingo logic

like i have an idea of how i will implement that

it's just the description

[zealous glen]

I suggest using main_end

[hushed field]

are you sure? I know dyna_text doesn't need them, and that's also an object node. Though there's a mod that adds the icons in front of the words as QoL enhancement, so there's code to check how it works!

[zealous glen]

Idk what the difference would be code-wise

[hushed field]

I'm not able to name the mod because I've only played with it in Dimserene, haha

[manic rune]

should this only choose from a pool of suits and ranks that your deck has

or do i make it much more painful to actually fully utilize her effects :3

[hushed field]

Nah, at that strength it's fine if it doesn't. Otherwise that joker's a very deck-fixing focused one

[lyric wadi]

which one should i look at

[manic rune]

im nerfing her 😭

[hushed field]

I'm sorry, I can't say, but if you play with Dimserene, you can maybe find it which it is. I can check later today for you, though, if you remind me!

[tardy wind]

ranks in deck

[manic rune]

random ranks in deck, but random suit (can be diamonds even if your deck doesnt have it) then?

[tardy wind]

yes

[quartz ravine]

loginfoMessage("your message here with some string concatenated like this :" .. someString, "scope")

[lyric wadi]

no i meant the one you have in your mod

[tardy wind]

wait no

the other way around

suit has to be in deck

[hushed field]

i think balancing wise, that's the best option, but it may feel a bit weird if it's not consistent between the two

[quartz ravine]

Oh god this mac is so nice but wow do I hate this operating system.

[zealous glen]

Why doesn’t the “Chosen Suit” just display the suit?

[manic rune]

-# what do you mean by that

[hushed field]

Oh, sorry! I haven't implemented them yet, so they're not pushed to the git

[zealous glen]

You can use loc_vars

[lyric wadi]

ag

[manic rune]

oh, so you mean the color of the "Spades"?

[zealous glen]

If you only care about doing text, you can look at my Skyscraper and Lvl. ? Death I showed above in my mod

[zealous glen]

No

I mean the text

[manic rune]

its randomized

[zealous glen]

But you can display the actual value

[exotic island]

i added dwayne https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1348253552048345170

[zealous glen]

Like the game does

[zealous glen]

I have a The Rock Blind (unrelated)

[manic rune]

im uh, not sure what you mean by this

[manic rune]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

yeah, got it

[tall apex]

Club

[manic rune]

should it be, uh

"Hearts cards" or wat

[onyx sonnet]

Hearts, Clubs, Spades, etc etc

[manic rune]

yeah, i know, but

how do i say "if the card is that suit"

[zealous glen]

CLU8S

[manic rune]

"Played Clubs cards give X1.2 Mult"?

[onyx sonnet]

If scored card is "insert suit here"

[lyric wadi]

where skyscrape

[onyx sonnet]

Or that yeah

[lyric wadi]

is it tower into sky

[zealous glen]

Clubs card

[tall apex]

Club confirmed

[zealous glen]

No it’s Skyscraper

[tall apex]

[onyx sonnet]

Nah, ingame doesnt have that wording iirc

[exotic island]

im gonna make a malverk mod that replaces every single heart in the game with an Amogus

[lyric wadi]

i must be blind then

[manic rune]

oh, its "Played cards with Hearts suit"

[lyric wadi]

i cannot see it

in the repo

[onyx sonnet]

oh nevermind

its inconsistent as hell

[quartz ravine]

Work in progress shader, I am trying to make sparkles / glitter for a new edition that is inspired by special edition trading cards, like Yugioh cards

https://www.shadertoy.com/view/wcjXWR

Maybe i am dumb but I write it here then convert later to work with pipping in to dissolve mask. unfortunately couldn't find a good way to iterate on brand new shaders better than this

[manic rune]

basing it on this

[tall apex]

You rn

[manic rune]

oh shit, it doesnt have the "s" at the end of the suit name

uh

[lyric wadi]

where 😭

[quartz ravine]

Now Scoring Club

you need to not use suits_singular to get plurals. I had the same problem

[manic rune]

quick fix ❤️

[zealous glen]

@lyric wadi I see it wasn’t in the main branch: https://github.com/VictinZero/balatro-victins-collection/blob/alpha/modules/jokers/skyscraper.lua

It was in the alpha branch

[lyric wadi]

not so blind now am i

[tall apex]

Fine then, small blind

[zealous glen]

DebugPlus allows you to see shader code live in-game

[lyric wadi]

but also wtf

how do i read

[quartz ravine]

I use that on my main PC, but haven't set it up here on my laptop yet. Mostly due to being a luddite and hating macOs

[manic rune]

how do i uhhh, change the color of this to the color of the suit

[onyx sonnet]

@quartz ravine
logInfoMessage("Im reading enhancements!", "scope") is this correct?

[quartz ravine]

It is AMAZING for debugging shaders!

[zealous glen]

There’s a special control for it I think

See Castle

[quartz ravine]

I got it wrong

sendInfoMessage("LuckY! Copying this card", "goldenRepeater")

[onyx sonnet]

oh so i add the joker key to it?

[manic rune]

mmm

[exotic island]

lads i have an idea

[onyx sonnet]

Castle stores the color in its extra vars

[zealous glen]

I also want to make a sparkling shader for an Edition (with actual sparkles) but I’m not sure how to go about it

[quartz ravine]

Use this

[exotic island]

what if i make the invisible joker look like that one MGS meme

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-snake-big-boss-gif-12248663

[quartz ravine]

the value in Suits should be like 'Clubs', or 'hearts', or whatever

[manic rune]

how would i use that in the description

[quartz ravine]

I am working on it. I was using the kind of specular lighting from gold seal, applied to the motes / sparkles, and using a color mask to have sort of polychrome like colors in specific areas of the texture, but I am still really trying to troubleshoot some things

Shaders are soooo different from standard OOP

[manic rune]

how do i use {V:1} thingy

[zealous glen]

Most examples I found were too hard for me to parse. I found one that seems easier, but I’m not sure what’s the best way to handle a particle system and integrate it with Balatro

[manic rune]

if i put this in my loc_vars

then uh, it should change color to the suit color

if i put {V:1} right?

[quartz ravine]

Here is how I do a complex example of it

[quartz ravine]

loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
            card.ability.polarity = getPolarity()
            card.ability.polarityStr = card.ability.polarity[1] .. " and " .. card.ability.polarity[2]
            local color1 = G.C.SUITS[card.ability.polarity[1]]
            local color2 = G.C.SUITS[card.ability.polarity[2]]
            local suit1 = localize(card.ability.polarity[1], 'suits_singular')
            local suit2 = localize(card.ability.polarity[2], 'suits_singular')
            sendInfoMessage(
                "suit1 is " .. suit1 .. "and suit2 is " .. suit2,
                self.key)

            inspect(color1)
            inspect(color2)

            return { vars = { suit1, suit2, colours = { color1, color2 } } }

Look at the return statement for most of what you need, then here is how the token replacement works

"{C:inactive}(Currently rewarding {V:1}#1#{} and {V:2}#2#{}"

[zealous glen]

Do you think it could be handled inside the shader or only outside?

If it’s handled at Lua level it seems easier to write

[manic rune]

yeah i got it working, thanks :D

[quartz ravine]

That's a good question and I do not know if you could do it outside of the shader pipeline as it is today without like a ton of work.

I am doing in the shader only and just tweaking the math so I always make my particles in the same place, since the particles aren't real, they're just math derived.

[quartz ravine]

Ohhhhhhhh will you have like an Eva unit 01 Joker. Or like a Gendo joker with reflective glasses?!

g2g bye

[manic rune]

its not a reference to that anime 😭

i hate my fucking life

[sterile knoll]

Does anyone know of a reliable way to get the jokers to juice up when it gives an individual playing card chip/mult/xmult/etc??

e.g. Lusty Joker juices when the +3 is added when the card is scored, however with my custom jokers i just get the message on the playing card but the custom jokers dont juice.

I've been trying to do this using events but the timing is not correct (usually juices when the cards default chips are added, not when the joker effect occurs)

[onyx sonnet]

can i see your code so far

mine juices automatically as should most returns that include chips mult xmult dollars etc

[frosty dock]

what smods version are you using?

[onyx sonnet]

oh hi aure, can i fetch you for something

i might just be stupid but i havent found any documentation regarding quantum enhancements

[sterile knoll]

1.0.0~ALPHA-1428a-STEAMODDED

[frosty dock]

that's like what

2 weeks behind

should be fine but you should update

show your code

[sterile knoll]

this is the code pretty straightforward

[frosty dock]

yeah that's self-induced

[gilded narwhal]

i wonder when we're getting 1.0.0 beta

[frosty dock]

card = context.other_card removes the juice

[sterile knoll]

is it the card return?

[frosty dock]

11 days ago, actually

[sterile knoll]

aaaa got it, thanks

[onyx sonnet]

yeah the card return is unnecessary

[gilded narwhal]

i wonder when we're getting 1.0.0 gamma

[frosty dock]

or rather, moves it to the scored playing card, which was already going to be juiced either way

[manic rune]

john john, why is it that when my joker is retriggered, this still runs

[frosty dock]

because someone forgot to set context.retrigger_joker in the repetition context

[manic rune]

;3

ah, i see

[frosty dock]

i wanna say it wasn't me, but it was

[manic rune]

i feel like im the only person posting stuff relating to retriggering jokers rn ❤️

[verbal wyvern]

Does the SMODS.has_enhancement work for custom enhancements? And how would I get it to check for such

[onyx sonnet]

it works for custom enhancements too

[manic rune]

i think im tripping

[verbal wyvern]

Do I just put my SMODS.Enhancement key where id normally put “m_steel” etc

[manic rune]

why did 9 of spades return the id of 8

[onyx sonnet]

SMODS.has_enhancement(card, key): Returns true if the given card has the specified enhancement, either as its natural enhancement or an extra enhancement from jokers. from wiki

[manic rune]

😭

[frosty dock]

why are retriggers on repetitions so weird

[onyx sonnet]

aure please i beg of you where can i find any explanation of how quantum enhancements work

[manic rune]

eremel is working on documenting everything

:3

maybe ask them instead

[onyx sonnet]

Ah

Well if they're working on it its probably best to not bother them about it

I will ask if i see them in chat later tho

[manic rune]

they did already document quantum enhancements

from the picture of their uhhh checklist
-# i dont know the word for that lmfao

[frosty dock]

the jist of it is this

you can use context.check_enhancement and return a table where the keys are the enhancements you want to apply

[manic rune]

so i think you are not bothering them at all, IN FACT, i think it will be very useful if its posted early considering its a very confusing context :3 (or my brain is just too dumb to grasp the idea of it)

[frosty dock]

if context.check_enhancement and context.other_card.config.center.key == 'm_gold' then
  return { m_steel = true }
end

for example this makes all (physically) gold cards act as steel cards too

[onyx sonnet]

i know the gist but the specifications are a bit important, i cant find much info about how to use context.check_enhancement and my attempt at bruteforcing doesnt seem to work

[frosty dock]

what's context.G.play supposed to do

[manic rune]

they probably only want the played cards to be affected

[onyx sonnet]

so it only checks the scored cards, i dont want held cards to be affected

or well

played

[frosty dock]

does it matter

held lucky cards don't do anything

[manic rune]

unless there are some mods which make them do something

:3

[onyx sonnet]

fair

[frosty dock]

anyways there is no cardarea passed

[onyx sonnet]

i think in that context its probably better to allow for that extra something to happen

[frosty dock]

you can check the area on the card itself but i doubt that works correctly

there's a different issue though

[manic rune]

maybe run a loop through G.play.cards, and just check if the card is in there?

i dunno

[frosty dock]

wouldn't be needed, context.other_card.area == G.play

[manic rune]

oh i see

[frosty dock]

but as i said, i doubt that works correctly

[frosty dock]

get_id is forbidden in this context

[onyx sonnet]

it infact doesnt

[onyx sonnet]

forbidden?

[frosty dock]

you cannot use it

[onyx sonnet]

i see

[frosty dock]

why? because get_id needs to know if the card is a stone card

and to do that, it checks for quantum enhancements

this isn't ideal as it doesn't allow for more complex interactions, maybe there will be some kind of system in the future that can handle that better

for now all you can do is check the base ID

i guess you can also check if it isn't physically a stone card on top of that

[strong jacinth]

So this happens, uhh

create_chemical_overlay = function()
    G.FUNCS.overlay_menu({
        definition = create_UIBox_generic_options({
            back_colour = G.C.ELD.BACK,
            contents = {
                {
                    n = G.UIT.R,
                    nodes = {
                        create_tabs({
                            snap_to_nav = true,
                            colour = G.C.ELD.BACK,
                            tabs = {
                                {
                                    label = localize("k_eld_combine"),
                                    chosen = true,
                                    tab_definition_function = combine_tab_function
                                },
                                {
                                    label = localize("k_eld_inventory"),
                                    chosen = false,
                                    tab_definition_function = combine_tab_function
                                },
                                {
                                    label = localize("k_eld_exchange"),
                                    chosen = false,
                                    tab_definition_function = combine_tab_function
                                },
                            }
                        })
                    }
                }
            }
        })
    })
end

And this is the code responsible

[manic rune]

combine

[strong jacinth]

What?

[onyx sonnet]

card.base.id ?

[manic rune]

combine :3

[strong jacinth]

Combine 👍

[maiden river]

is there a function used to get the localized versions of messages for cards? wasn't it called localize

[manic rune]

yeah

[maiden river]

okay
it's not in the localization part of the wiki, from what I saw

[robust bison]

I'm just getting into balatro modding and lua in general, where's a good place to look to get a good understanding of how the UI works? other than the wiki are there any mods that would be good to look at to see how others do things?

[strong jacinth]

Depends, the wiki is usually the best place.

Like what spesifically

[quartz ravine]

Maybe not in vanilla but in my mod….they do do something!

[quartz ravine]

The Yugioh mod adds some new ux areas, Joyous Spring

[tardy wind]

oh nice

[hushed field]

N also writes incredibly readable code for how complex his systems are, so it's a good one to learn from!

[maiden river]

related question: can you move the stuff that describes consumables/card backs/etc. to the localization file
if so, how?

[hushed field]

My localization file has every single piece of localization in Kino, if you wanna take a look at how that's structured

[maiden river]

thanks!

[robust bison]

I was reading through the wiki's UI section and I think I understand the node structure, I'm just confused on actually using it. I might just need to look at the game's source more to understand how it works, but I wasn't sure what the best practice was for modifying the vanilla UI to not mess with other people's mods that do the same

[robust bison]

I wanted to check it out just because it was yugioh but I'll check it out for that too!

[frosty dock]

fair nuff

[weak brook]

ok im having a bit of trouble figuring out the best way to go about implementing this joker idea

so the concept is that it copies the ability of random jokers that can currently be generated with the same type of code as judgement. its appearance does not change (at least for now), but its ability does and its description changes to match

trying to figure out how to implement this is tricky though. i know how to make a joker display another joker's description, that just needs a key, but the loc_vars provide an issue. how can i make that work with loc_vars?

[hushed field]

not to glaze N too much, but it's honestly one of my favorite mods to play

[weak brook]

right now im just trying to get the description changing down, then i'll figure out how to copy abilities

[lyric wadi]

okay chat

im sorry to sound like a whiny bitch

[weak brook]

im thinking the approach for description and ability copying might work if i can initialize an invisible card somehow, but im not sure if thats possible to do

[lyric wadi]

but that's because i am one

are there actually ANY good resources to learn ui stuff

cuz while i appreciate people pointing out examples of ui usage in modi can look at

[hushed field]

Not really anything that's more in-depth than the wiki

Pointing at well done other mods is the best examples out there at the moment. I think Thunk might be the only person confident enough with UI stuff to actually write a guide on it, haha

But I do think the UI system that Balatro uses is largely just some extensions on the Love2D UI implementation, so there's maybe something to find there

[lyric wadi]

they are actually like, incredibly unhelpful to look at

[robust bison]

I got into this forgetting balatro modding is relatively new and thinking it would have as much documentation as minecraft modding LMAO the mystery is fun though

[lyric wadi]

with how streamlined they are with helper functions in a separate file, uncommented code, combination with other stuff making it unclear what is what

it's like asking "how do i prep oil paint" and being pointed to a bob ross video because he used oil paint

anyway

sorry for the ramble

[paper zealot]

This is the best and most comprehensive by far
https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/UI-Guide

Beyond that, learn by doing. Play around with it all, experiment and see what works and what doesn't

[lyric wadi]

i know to you guys it made sense to point toward a mod that used it as an example to see how it works

but as someone who has no idea how it works, seeing a mod using it in a form that's pretty beyond its basic functions does not help me learn what its basic functions are

unfortunately

[hushed field]

Yeah, no I get you, it's not weird to be frustrated about it, haha. It's just that unless someone commits to writing a guide, there isn't going to be a better option than referring to other code.

[lyric wadi]

😔

[hushed field]

And the annoying nature of the ui system makes it difficult to parse compared to other parts of the code. I'd honestly generally not recommend people do things that need UI implementation if they're not comfortable parsing someone else's LUA because of that

[onyx sonnet]

how do i check the base id of a card without using get_id()?

[frosty dock]

.base.id

[manic rune]

card.base.id

[robust bison]

this might sound really stupid, but there wouldn't happen to be some kind of way to hot reload or something right? like some kind of way to test little changes in code? for example if I was working on code that is executed when a run is started, is the fastest way to test things just saving my code, closing and restarting balatro, and starting a new run?

[hushed field]

But Kusane, if it can give you any hope, I'm taking notes whenever I figure out how to do some UI stuff so that once I feel like I could actually answer people's questions about it, I'll make a guide for it 😛 (Though at this point, not sure if I'll ever get comfortable in my understanding of how UI works)

[lyric wadi]

honestly at this point i dont even know why i went down the ui rabbit hole

[frosty dock]

depending on what you're doing, DebugPlus watch commands could be useful. generally hot-reloading mods isn't possible due to side effects

[lyric wadi]

cuz even if i canmake a separate box, im most likely still gonna be duing the grid with 25 vars

[frosty dock]

however smods has a keybind for quickly restarting the game

[manic rune]

its like 5 seconds of holding M 😭

[lyric wadi]

or some way to put longstring as a variable but idk if that works

[frosty dock]

it's holding M, though we've been wanting to make it configurable

[frosty dock]

it's just over a second

[manic rune]

huh

its much slower for me

[frosty dock]

the closing itself is a bit slow

but you don't need to hold until it closes

[manic rune]

thats why i pinned the game to taskbar and manually close and reopen it lol

[lyric wadi]

actually

how would i display a grid of 25 values in a description

without using 25 vars

i dont think there's really a workaround that's worth persuing

[hushed field]

you're already storing 25 variables anyway, aren't you?

[manic rune]

the easiest one without needing to do all that complex ui stuff is

[frosty dock]

the main_end return param in loc_vars allows you to pass arbitrary UI elements

[manic rune]

only use 5 vars, representing each line :3

[frosty dock]

you can just have one of those with a bunch of text nodes

[verbal wyvern]

        if context.cardarea == G.play and context.repetition and not context.repetition_only then
            if SMODS.has_enhancement(context.other_card, "m_steel") then
                return {
                    message = 'Again!',
                    repetitions = 
 card.ability.extra.repetitions,
                    card = context.other_card
                }
            end
        end
    end
}```

So I got this to work with base enhancements (such as steel) but when I sawp out m_steel for my custom enhancements key it just doesnt work, is there anything I need to do to get it to work?

[onyx sonnet]

i cant figure out why the first debug message stopped printing

[paper zealot]

Again, have you actually read the guide written by Divvy & Eremel? It's very complete, lists virtually every relevant function and all the syntax, and explains exactly how the structure works with multiple minimalistic examples. It's not from a mod, it's written from scratch to explain how it works and how to use it
https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/UI-Guide

[lyric wadi]

true but would it be grid aligned

[manic rune]

probably not 💔

[quartz ravine]

Always makes me type a long line of mmmmmmm’s in to my ide lol

[manic rune]

same

accidentally crashed my game once because my code had "functionmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"

💔

[quartz ravine]

Me too

[manic rune]

-# i always press ctrl + S out of reflex

[lyric wadi]

okay where do i put the code for the ui

[frosty dock]

do you have the optional feature for quantum enhancements set?

gosh this needs to be documented

[quartz ravine]

Quantum enhancement!?!

[lyric wadi]

it says what the code looks like, it explains the structure, it says what the code do, it list many functions

[onyx sonnet]

it is enabled in my main lua file im p sure

[lyric wadi]

where in the lua file does it sit

[hushed field]

on your card, you can add a "generate_ui="

[lyric wadi]

and that's the ONE thing that's not on there

[frosty dock]

it should be going off then

[onyx sonnet]

allows for cards to be multiple enhancements at once

[lyric wadi]

like i am sorry i understand you are trying to help

[hushed field]

Well, it's because that's only relevant if you wanna change the standard way a joker's ui is generated. (or any card), the ui system article on the wiki details how to set up a general UI, which could be a config page, a menu, a whole new thing, an indicator, etc.

[lyric wadi]

but that's the extent of how much i understand

[frosty dock]

most of the time, touching that method isn't needed

[lyric wadi]

like

[hushed field]

Yeah, that's true. In this case you'd probably be fine adding the ui to the update

[lyric wadi]

i know that's WHAT im supposed to read

[quartz ravine]

Do jokers expose support for different shaders?

[frosty dock]

you can add any UI elements before or after the main description using main_start and main_end in loc_vars

[lyric wadi]

but i read it, and i didn't quite understand it, hence why i came to ask the VERY first question several hours ago

[frosty dock]

not directly

[lyric wadi]

so "try reading it again" is unfortunately not gonna solve my problem

[tall apex]

hey does anyone know how to disable the chip message? im trying to move it somewhere else but now i have two chip messages

[lyric wadi]

call me whiny because i am indeed whining and i do apologise for that

[chrome widget]

Typically when I do shader effects on my jokers I just spawn new sprites as children, set them to custom_draw, and then manually draw the shaders in the draw function of the joker

[tall apex]

whiny

[verbal wyvern]

Im supposed to use my custom prefix arent I 😭

[tall apex]

[lyric wadi]

mmhmmh,,,

[frosty dock]

loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
  return {
    vars = {},
    main_end = {
      { n=G.UIT.C, config = {...}, nodes = {} },
    }
  }
end,

[tall apex]

GUH?????????

[zealous glen]

When I think about Balatro UI, it helps me to look at a Joker tooltip and break it down:

• Different colors of text are different text nodes;
• Each line of text is a row node—the row aligns them horizontally;
• Row nodes are aligned on top of each other by being put into a column node;
  etc.

There’s some specifics like how the red background for xMult is also a column node with a text node inside, and some rare nodes like root nodes and object nodes, but most of the time you only need rows, columns, and text nodes

Try looking at a Joker and imagining what its tooltip’s nodes look like

[lyric wadi]

what

[chrome widget]

Which (mostly) works aside from some minor issues interacting with other things, and it makes the dissolve animation a little weird

[onyx sonnet]

can you check if it goes off on your machine?

[tall apex]

[frosty dock]

I'm not currently at my machine

[onyx sonnet]

ah, thas fine

[zealous glen]

/tp aure machine

[onyx sonnet]

im 100% sure my smods is fully updated

[tall apex]

like from block game omg

[onyx sonnet]

1.0.0 BETA 0312B

[zealous glen]

Minelala

[tall apex]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-steve-gif-22845858

[hard flume]

Yume Nikki Boosterpack

[strong jacinth]

Anyone??

[tall apex]

amongus booster pack when

[hard flume]

From me? Never

[tall apex]

[frosty dock]

oh

[lyric wadi]

what would amogus pack have

[frosty dock]

I just noticed

quantum_enhanncements

[tall apex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/878514544207609926/968201695358251008/E367D883-A62D-4942-A613-B4CF209D9F37.gif

[lyric wadi]

amogus pack have 3 cards, but only two of them are real. taking the fake cards immediately destroy it, thus wasting the pack

jumbo amogus pack has 4 cards

mega amogus pack has 5 cards but because it's a bigger pack there are 2 impostors

[tall apex]

it only has this in it

[hard flume]

The Nexus Pack has a new type of consumable - Effect Cards. Applies a new type of buff to cards, Effects.

[lyric wadi]

you can spot impostor cards in the pack by noticing something wrong in the card description

[tall wharf]

chat

how do i make planet cards

[maiden river]

you can use smods to make a keybind to another key for restarting the game

[lyric wadi]

for example an Impostor Gros Michel might say 1 in 4 instead of 1 in 6

[zealous glen]

SMODS wiki knows probably

[paper zealot]

You're probably gonna hate this answer, but i promise i'm not being antagonistic, this is just my experience with learning the ins and outs of many codebases over two decades.

UI code is almost always a complex tangled web, no matter what platform or framework you use.

For Balatro, it's all very dependent on what the UI is for, and how you've structured your mod, and what it is you're doing - card tooltips? Joker descriptions? Modifications to existing menus? Custom UIElements? More?!

The reason mods are listed as good examples to learn from is that it's usually easier to copy something that works, untangle it to the point that you start to understand it, then make it yourself but better.

I agree that the UI guide is overwhelming and hard to process on the first read or two or five, but it really is written in the simplest way that it can be. It just takes a bit of patience, experimentation, and asking for help on specific problems. More specific than "where do I put the code for the UI", ideally

[maiden river]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/SMODS.Consumable

[tall wharf]

ah yes

i should read the wiki

[frosty dock]

@lyric wadi for what I explained earlier, something like this

[maiden river]

where's the read the docs gif when you need it

[zealous glen]

https://tenor.com/view/read-the-fucking-docs-rtfm-skill-issue-legion-gif-26463667

[tall wharf]

-# (where exactly does it say to upgrade hand again)

[onyx sonnet]

hm?

[maiden river]

you'd do it in the consumeable's use function
beyond that I'm not sure

[frosty dock]

quantum_enhanncements

[onyx sonnet]

oh.

[frosty dock]

that's not how you spell enhancements last I checked

[onyx sonnet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/872760923771789323/1098737055774806087/attachment-3.gif

[zealous glen]

Someone bring up the 98%

[frosty dock]

:cantread:

[lyric wadi]

no no im sorry, i dont mean to imply you're being antagonistic
i'm just saying that, while it's an answer that would make sense for everyone else at almost every stage, it's just not applicable to me at this very moment

[lyric wadi]

and it's completely a me thing

[zealous glen]

Thankfully it’s an emoji that only people that can read can see

[frosty dock]

here's me not having nitro :jimbo_spin:

[lyric wadi]

it's a perfectly good and valid answer that i am not in the right state to be able to consume

if that make any sense

[tall wharf]

ok no where is it documented

[zealous glen]

Let’s go being poor

[hardy viper]

i guess you could initialize everything expected in there to false and then add a __newindex that errors

oh wait

nvm

i can't read either

technically it's still doable that way but not how i expressed it

[onyx sonnet]

works perfectly

aure thank you for being my spellcheck

❤️

[frosty dock]

loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
  return {
    vars = {},
    main_end = {
      { n=G.UIT.C, config = {...}, nodes = {} },
    }
  }
end,

Something like this can be used to add UI nodes after a description. The main_end is parsed as UI code (as described in the guide) and added after the description. Similarly main_start would be added before the main description. In this case you probably want to have multiple text nodes arranged in a grid of rows and columns there

[maiden river]

does anyone know how to localize the collection buttons?
I'm having a great time right now

[weak brook]

hey aure got a question on dynatext, are you familiar with how that works?

[paper zealot]

Learning stuff is hard. Take regular breaks, don't give up quickly, practice breaking things down into small problems, and ask for specific help whenever you get stuck

[lyric wadi]

would the #n# var work in the text parameter of a column/row

[hushed field]

I don't think there's anyone that's done any work ever with UI stuff that's not very understanding of any 'learning UI' related frustration, haha

UI is fully what killed my game dev project a few years back, just because it was one of the few things that was so frustrating to get working. It's why so many games just have very utilitarian UI 😛

[frosty dock]

no, those are only handled by the localize function. a single text node does not have that kind of capacity

[hard flume]

I'm wondering how I should implement Effects... I know they could probably use a better name, but I can't rename them because that's what they're called in Yume Nikki.

[frosty dock]

100% this. I feel like I know the ways of most portions of the game code at this point, but I still struggle with UI sometimes

[modern kindle]

when all else fails, make everything a square

thats all ie ver do for ui

[frosty dock]

depends on the question

[hushed field]

I have a custom indicator that I wanted to place on the top right edge of the card, which is pretty easy. Moving it to the exact top-right part that I actually want it at? frustratingly impossible

[hard flume]

I got some ideas, but they rely on creating a new type of card modifier. Is that possible?

[sullen fern]

i can finally get back to work on puyomod

[weak brook]

would it be possible to make a dynatext that could rotate between description tables? i noticed that in misprint's code everything seemed to be just strings, could it handle line breaks?

[sullen fern]

which also means i can figure out why all my suits are called error

[lyric wadi]

ok cool

second question

[frosty dock]

loc_txt.collection if you use loc_txt

[lyric wadi]

would i be able to get away with doing this

[hushed field]

I know in unity, I got really frustrated by the arbitrary nature of the numbers you use for UI and how unintuitive they were

[frosty dock]

if you use localization files, I don't remember off the top of my head and forgot to put it in the docs

[tall apex]

omg keku from hit balatro mod cardsauce

[tall apex]

[maiden river]

yeah I knew that already
but someone wants to translate my mod into Chinese and so I want to put it in the localization file

[hushed field]

you want the text to be in a G.UI.T node, so you'd have to add one node there, but I think this would work

[frosty dock]

idk how the hell I missed that wiki page when updating the docs to cover things like this

[paper zealot]

If i'm understanding your question right, it would be easier to just assign a single table to the DynaText string, and change the values in that table as needed - in an update() method or similar

[maiden river]

😭

[weak brook]

hmm

[maiden river]

if you're going to update that can you make sure that someone mentions the localize function in there

[weak brook]

alrighty

[hard flume]

Actually wait no. This should be possible, I think I saw a mod do it before

[frosty dock]

I have to admit this one is pretty bad for not being documented. It's this way in legacy of how vanilla does things

it's misc.dictionary['b_' .. string.lower(self.key) .. '_cards'] in localization files

[manic rune]

4k lines now

yipee

[paper zealot]

Replace n = G.UIT.C with n = G.UIT.T and you should be in business

[maiden river]

thanks john smods

[frosty dock]

I am so sorry

[sullen fern]

before anyone asks i DO have a localization in place but the names of the suits just won’t show

[frosty dock]

idk how I failed to realize until now that I forgot about that page

[red flower]

maybe separate them by path lol

[hard flume]

Why are some mods layered like this? Is there a benefit to doing it that way?

[manic rune]

good idea

[frosty dock]

do the keys in your localization include your mod prefix?

[manic rune]

organization ❤️

[hard flume]

Oh. I might do it that way myself then

Also, is it possible to create a new type of card modifier?

[manic rune]

card modifier?

[hard flume]

Like how there's enhancements, editions, stickers, etc, etc.

[manic rune]

oh, yeah

definitely

[maiden river]

I'd imagine it's something similar for the name in the badge?
in any case I'll just wait until that page gets updated before I proceed 🫡

[red flower]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki

[manic rune]

gaogdmag

god damn it

💔

[red flower]

❤️

[sullen fern]

yes

wait

hm

let me check

[lyric wadi]

hm

okay so the blocks are there

[hard flume]

Oh, i already knew about that. But like, I want to create a new category of them. Is that also possible?

[lyric wadi]

for sure

[manic rune]

yeah

-# or at least, for consumables

[frigid flame]

PERKEO

2

[frosty dock]

there isn't exactly a smods API for new types of card modifiers, but it's definitely possible and has been done before

[frigid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/e3-peggle-jump-two-gif-13350703