💻・modding-dev

[onyx sonnet]

look for jokers with similar effects and check how they accomplish them

[granite bane]

basically I just want the decks function to go through and use a function to set_base a specific number of times, then remove the rest

[onyx sonnet]

👍

[tender python]

🙏 it would be very helpful, I can somewhat understand how code is laid out but don't actually know any languages lol

[sturdy compass]

Well I don't think there's any sort of tool like that unfortunately

[old bane]

OHKO (i couldn't figure out how to make it transition smoothly to the win screen without the game drawing cards to hand smh)

[sturdy compass]

On the bright side though, if you really wanna commit to it, Lua isn't too tricky of a language to pick up, even for a beginner

[red flower]

you want remove instead of remove_card

[onyx sonnet]

what if you make the consumable add one hand to your current hands and then force it to play an empty hand

[minor furnace]

What exactly was your table designed to do? Because essentially what I’m trying to do here is create a blind that randomly changes its effect to a different blind every time you play a hand

[old bane]

how would one accomplish that (besides the 1 hand to current hands part)

[minor furnace]

And the idea was to create a separate instance of a blind in the background to call the methods from

[hasty ravine]

I cant tell if I'm unlucky or if my code isn't working because whenever I play any hand with a pair it isn't leveling up

[spring lantern]

in my case it just checks for any instances of new tarot/planet/joker/spectral cards and adds their ids to keep track of how many unique cards the player has encountered

[granite bane]

so just G.playing_cards[i]:remove()

[spring lantern]

so wildly different purpose lol

but it should still work fine

[onyx sonnet]

wait nevermind

[red flower]

I'm pretty sure, yes

[old bane]

for debug purposes, make the odds 1 in 1 then

[hasty ravine]

Good point

[red flower]

I have an auto-win function in my mod, you need to be in the selecting hand stage

[sturdy compass]

behold this longboye of a description

[granite bane]

Would be really nice if someday someone just had a comprehensive list of the functions

[old bane]

i tried that but since the consumable makes the game go into the PLAY_TAROT stage it just doesn't execute it, it just uses up the consumable

[minor furnace]

At this point, I’m wondering if I can just find a way to create the blind when I load the game instead of storing it, because I can at the very least store its name which persists between reloads

[red flower]

oh that's probably something you need to patch then

[old bane]

unless i can just make the game go into the selecting hand stage

[hasty ravine]

Okay yeah this code just isn't leveling up any hands

[old bane]

i wouldn't even know where to start there tbh

[spring lantern]

i also totally forgot about this part

[red flower]

let me see

[spring lantern]

this is actually the most important bit LOL

but i assume you do got that

[old bane]

i assume you're going the same route as space joker, right?

[hasty ravine]

Yeah, I used most of the code from there

[old bane]

oh wait i see your issue, you're not returning level_up = true nor the message. wrap those two lines of code in a return{} block

[minor furnace]

I uhh don’t know that I have that? The documentation on how to do this was pretty sparse

[spring lantern]

oh oops

[hasty ravine]

Ohh okay

[spring lantern]

init_game_object is where the variables are created

[old bane]

in that scenario you're just setting level_up to true but it doesn't do anything

[tender python]

I mostly just wanted to make some inside jokers (ha) for my friends so I'm not sure I want to dive into the whole language itself 😔 I tried copying and pasting stuff from other jokers and seems to work mostly besides crashing when the effect happens, it will roll for 50% if it adds x1 when a blind is selected but crashes if it works

[spring lantern]

actually i think that the jokers sample mod has a castle implementation that explains this process way better than i ever could

[sturdy compass]

oh yeah ur right

good call

[spring lantern]

i like how it explains hooks

hooks are your friend

[old bane]

i love hooks

[onyx sonnet]

how do i access my joker's config attributes from the lua?

[red flower]

ok, a bit hack-y but what if you put the effect into an event with 0.6 delay. It would occur after the play_tarot state is reverted

[sturdy compass]

Instead of changing the joker itself, you should change a variable you create that the joker holds onto

[spring lantern]

yeah that's what i was gonna say

[onyx sonnet]

so i should make my own variable inside the lua?

[sturdy compass]

no. this is what the igo hook is for

[old bane]

hrmmm

[minor furnace]

thanks! I'll have to take a look at this then

[onyx sonnet]

igo?

[sturdy compass]

this bit

[spring lantern]

for instance, i have a joker that works similar to to-do list but with xmult rather than money, so i created a variable in init_game_object that stores the name of the hand (by default 'High Card') and then change its value to any of the game's hands in reset_game_globals

so every round it picks a random hand

[onyx sonnet]

ah, thank you both!

[minor furnace]

gotcha

and I basically need that but on a per-hand basis. And storing a blind instead of a hand lol

[tall wharf]

+4 Mult if hand contains a High Card

[red flower]

why do you need to store the entire blind again?

[spring lantern]

so instead of resetting it in reset_game_globals you likely do it while calculating your blind? idk i havent touched custom blinds yet LOL

[sturdy compass]

Here's my code for picking out a random hand type in a reset_game_globals as a reference. You can ignore anything relating to a stop sign or a challenge lmao

[minor furnace]

I probably don't, the name itself is probably enough but then I still need to figure out how to create it when the game loads and you're still inside the modded blind

[old bane]

It still does it, is this what you had?

G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                    trigger = 'after',
                    delay = 0.6,
                    func = function()
                        G.GAME.chips = G.GAME.blind.chips
                        G.STATE = G.STATES.HAND_PLAYED
                        G.STATE_COMPLETE = true
                        end_round()
                        return true
                    end
                }))

[onyx sonnet]

thank you very much!!!

[sturdy compass]

👌

[tall wharf]

what are you doing 😭

[opaque yoke]

making a mod manager for Balatro

[sturdy compass]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[frosty dock]

0 days

[sturdy compass]

LMAO

[opaque yoke]

LET ME HAVE FUN DANGIT

[old bane]

oof

[graceful magnet]

when making a challenge, to call one of my modded jokers, will just putting the key as is for id work or do I need to add a prefix or something?

[sturdy compass]

j_[prefix]_esper is what you want

[graceful magnet]

sweet, thx

[sturdy compass]

[strong jacinth]

Does anyone know where the run info button and the poput is made.
-# Psst. (And how do I hook/patch it)

[tall wharf]

ui definitions

[red flower]

what if you try

if G.STATE ~= G.STATES.PLAY_TAROT then
    if G.STATE == G.STATES.SELECTING_HAND then
        G.GAME.chips = G.GAME.blind.chips
        G.STATE = G.STATES.HAND_PLAYED
        G.STATE_COMPLETE = true
        end_round()
    end
    return true
else
    return false
end

i didnt try it tho
(inside the event I mean)

[graceful magnet]

back to putting almost the entire 200 strong Joker list into the banned_cards table

[frosty dock]

do your stuff, maybe it turns out better than what's already out there haha

-# there are 15 competing standards

[tall wharf]

days since

[opaque yoke]

...what does every other mod manager do

-# ACE is planned to remain a CLI, mostly because tkinter scares me

[frosty dock]

oh hey, something that no regular user will dare use

[sturdy compass]

unfortunately yeah

[opaque yoke]

i'll make it look pretty i swear

[kindred heron]

Okay so quick question
When making a legend like Joker
Does the background and the Joker itself have to be two separate sprites?
If so, hwo do i load them togather?

[tall wharf]

-# i don't think we had had a mod """manager""" until #1339375696254074942

[sturdy compass]

Yeah skyline's is pretty neat

[plain wyvern]

hopefully this one won't just randomly delete mods

[tall wharf]

you are expecting a lot from people who can't read

[opaque yoke]

fair point

[old bane]

it just softlocks

[frosty dock]

yes. you put both sprites on the same atlas and use pos for the bg sprite and soul_pos for the floating sprite

[kindred heron]

Okay thanks

[red flower]

damn well then patching might be the option lol

[frosty dock]

-# i like your lack of recognition of faroquin

[opaque yoke]

Ace will do a lot of the heavy lifting by automatically downloading lovely and creating the mods directory, provided that the person actually has Balatro installed and started it once, if not, it will tell you

[tall wharf]

they are still going to struggle to use whatever you have made

[tall wharf]

i don't know that existed

can't blame me for that

[strong jacinth]

-# How do I patch?

[tall wharf]

-# use lovely

[granite bane]

Okay so is there any easy way to put things across several luas in the same mod pack or does that involve a lot of complicated coding

[sturdy compass]

btw aure were you responsible for the get_straight override or was that someone else? I'm trying to hook it and I'm lost lmao

[old bane]

i guess like what would i even patch? end_round()? the state itself?

[granite bane]

like having a seperate lua for decks, jokers, etc.

[edgy reef]

CLI, you might be cooking...

[strong jacinth]

-# But how? Docs? (Can i do it with smods?)

[fathom thunder]

holy based

[sturdy compass]

Oh god the CLI nerds have arrived

[red flower]

https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector?tab=readme-ov-file#patches

[granite bane]

where is that

[fathom thunder]

hey whats wrong with liking cli tools

[opaque yoke]

i say """CLI""" loosely here because there're planned to be little menus to navigate in order to get more details on a mod, similar to those that you would get in-game via smods

[red flower]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Utility

[sturdy compass]

forgot to add /lh

[strong jacinth]

Can I do it with Smods?

[fathom thunder]

if its still on a terminal to navigate stuff thats called a tui

[red flower]

idk what you want to do

[opaque yoke]

then yeah it'll be a TUI lmao

[fathom thunder]

dont worry i knew it wasnt fully serious

[granite bane]

so can I just throw assert(SMODS.load_file('jokers.lua'))() into the main lua or is there a special context i have to do

[tall wharf]

if you need to see the terminal screen to install most people will be scared

[red flower]

you can just do that

[fathom thunder]

afaik yeah thats all u gotta do

[tall wharf]

😭

[fathom thunder]

gulp... a t-t-terminal??!! i have to ..... type words into this scary terminal?!!!! iumn gonana break my copmuter...............

[opaque yoke]

-# more like pressing a key, then enter, then pressing another key, then enter...

[tall wharf]

I'm going to assume some people are still scared of task manager

[tall wharf]

yes

[opaque yoke]

if you're a Windows user, you have to know Task Manager.

[tall wharf]

if that appears for even just a second

people will be scared

they can't see it

[fathom thunder]

ive seen like a post of some computer science teacher who had students who didnt even know how to create a folder in windows

[tall wharf]

and then they see lovely where the console is always open

[strong jacinth]

Edit the size of the Run info and options, so that i can put my own button above it that creates a popup with check boxes

[tall wharf]

the iPad kids are becoming iPad teens

[fathom thunder]

so many people are becoming technologically illiterate because everything just has convenient user friendly uis and does everything for you

(ahem phones)

[tall wharf]

there is a reason i don't use Linux

on my main PC

[opaque yoke]

skill issue?

[tall wharf]

yeah

but actually no

[clever abyss]

got a small idea but still struggling on how to do this properly.

[fathom thunder]

im not entirely against of having stuff be convenient but like its an issue when people stop knowing how to do stuff because of it

[tall wharf]

i have audio firmware issues

i still have arch installed on my pc i just don't use it

[clever abyss]

might need a little help

[red flower]

just saw that function, you need to patch with lovely
you can ovewrite all of it but that's going to cause problems with other mods probably

or wait maybe not

[strong jacinth]

If I patch with lovely can smods disable that?

[tall wharf]

?

[red flower]

yes

[red flower]

you can also modify the return value of create_UIBox_HUD without patches probably

[fathom thunder]

im assuming you have pipewire and its just a hardware thing cuz ?

[tall wharf]

just hardware thing

i was using pipewire

in fact any audio backend has the same issue

[fathom thunder]

that issue being

[clever abyss]

yeah saw that just not sure how to properly code it and then get it to work

[red flower]

SMODS.Blind({
    -- the rest of the config
    debuff = {h_size_le = 4}
})

im pretty sure

[tall wharf]

https://github.com/thesofproject/linux/issues/5056

[strong jacinth]

That sounds insanely hard

[clever abyss]

would it be something like this? used some of a template i saw from one of my other mods with a blind in it

[red flower]

yes

no end

[clever abyss]

ok

is there an easy way to test this

[red flower]

use debugplus to reroll the blind

[fathom thunder]

i see

[tall wharf]

you can just go to blind collection hover on blind and press 3

[red flower]

oh really

[clever abyss]

actually first i want to see if it actually registers in game though

[tall wharf]

it will change the boss blind to that yeah

[sonic cedar]

if G.jokers.cards[i].config.center_key == 'j_hpfx_cyanosis' then

is this how i would check if this joker is the effect being used

[tall wharf]

this is not Minecraft you don't need to manually register it again

[red flower]

yes

[sonic cedar]

the irony

[sonic cedar]

the code's actually correct? i didnt mess up?

[red flower]

well, I don't know the context but it looks correct

[clever abyss]

and for me i also got the code right? if so then thanks

just gotta do some more things now

[red flower]

if it didn't crash then yes

[rose kettle]

balatro said this part of my code caused a crash anyone see the problem here?

[red flower]

what did it say

[frosty dock]

yeah that would be me

[rose kettle]

one moment let me find the crash report

[frosty dock]

but I've thought about maybe 10 different implementations of straights recently, so I'm not even sure of the original anymore (and i'm well aware it kinda sucks)

[sturdy compass]

Alright cool. I ask cuz I've been staring at it for a long while and I cannot for the life of me figure out how it ticks. I've added this little bit to it (right after the shortcut check) and it's causing any 5-card hand to register as a straight. Any ideas? Has_face_filled always starts off as false, and this implementation is in a hook that basically clones the base override function

[sturdy compass]

Ouch

[clever abyss]

ill be back in a bit to check something out

[red flower]

I think it's telling you the problem it's in another one of the files that you load but idk

[strong jacinth]

With ui modding how do I create a new menu, kinda like the main menu? (Or is it easier to just create a popup?)

[red flower]

I'm not entirely sure what you want but look into G.FUNCS.overlay_menu

[strong jacinth]

Smods?

[red flower]

no, that's a base game thing

[strong jacinth]

I will, big G

[clever abyss]

i'd have to do the ID and display name things right?

[strong jacinth]

(No pun intended)

[tender python]

so I got my first joker to work! but I'm having an issue where instead of incresing xmult (x1 becoming x2 etc) it just stays at x1, any advice?

[sturdy compass]

show code

[clever abyss]

hm.

it got recognized so thats a semi positive sign

[frosty dock]

just stop having syntax errors

[red flower]

i think the game should stop expecting '}'

[sturdy compass]

[sturdy compass]

Why are you doing that in an event manager?

[red flower]

what's the effect supposed to be?

[tender python]

I just copied stuff idk whats going on tbh 😔 the effect being 1 in 2 chance for xmult to increase by x1 when blind is selected

[sturdy compass]

just realized you're using a G variable too. Hoo boy

[frosty dock]

what even is G.GAME.current_round.Xmult supposed to be and where did you see it

[sturdy compass]

you should be storing your mult in the same place you're storing your chance

[tardy wind]

xmult doesnt exist i believe

Unless its something you added

[red flower]

it creates it so it should work, but the return doesn't have xmult either

[tender python]

probably from ai, I copied stuff from other jokers and tried messing with an asked an ai so thats probably where the issue is lol, it will do x1 it is a success but won't effect it so if xmult doesn't exist that would make sense why nothing happens lmao

[sturdy compass]

ai will not yield good results

[tender python]

I figured since this is pretty niche 😔

[tardy wind]

just check other mods for inspo

or balatro source

[red flower]

you should also read the docs https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/calculate_functions

[tender python]

🫡 thank you sorry for being dumb fsdsfd

[tardy wind]

that documentation def needs some work tho

[red flower]

I think it's fine

the first part literally explains the kind of effect we're talking about

[sturdy compass]

Documentation? In my SMODS?? Nooooo never…

[tardy wind]

oh yah i mean the page you linked is probably the best one in the wiki so far

[sturdy compass]

I agree with that

[graceful magnet]

nnnnnnnnno I'm pretty sure there are banned cards

oh wait

[west mason]

Finished one of my legendary pokemon consumables

no idea why it shows an error badge under the joker rarity tho

[graceful magnet]

steel joker whass going on

wait

2640 not 2460

I missed an e lmao

[granite bane]

is this how the set_perishable function would be used?

G.jokers.cards[i]:set_perishable(true)

[clear epoch]

chat what do we think of this fella?

[granite bane]

the function in the source code is function Card:set_perishable(_perishable) self.ability.perishable = nil if self.config.center.perishable_compat and not self.ability.eternal then self.ability.perishable = true self.ability.perish_tally = G.GAME.perishable_rounds end end

so how would I use this function to set a joker to be perishable? what would the format be

[clear epoch]

i'd personally use the SMODS way

[granite bane]

which is?

[clever abyss]

new error

[graceful magnet]

amazing

[clear epoch]

aka SMODS.Stickers["perishable"]:apply(card, true)

[zealous glen]

Interesting but I don’t quite see the theme

[granite bane]

so SMODS.Stickers["perishable"]:apply(G.jokers.cards[i], true)

[clear epoch]

it's a hurdle, makes your life harder short-term but rewards you long-term

[clear epoch]

yea

[clear epoch]

when i played around with it those negative fools are clutch to keep around

[zealous glen]

Yeah but why Negative Fools

You could overcome a hurdle and get any benefit

Why that one?

[clear epoch]

i just thought it would be a cool effect and one worthy of increasing blind size

you can get the hurdle while you're strong and save up the fools

which can become any other tarot card later on

i could just make it a random tarot if i wanted to nerf it

[zealous glen]

I’m not saying it’s not any of that, just that I’d maybe change the name and art for something else thematic

But you don’t have too of course

Also I’d word it differently

[clear epoch]

what if it was any tarot card so the fool itself wouldn't interfere with the theming?

[novel violet]

Huge fan, would recommend rewording 0.2 to 1.2x

x1.2 I suppose

Concept is fantastic IMO

[zealous glen]

Yeah

[clear epoch]

true

[zealous glen]

I’d use the same template that I used for Champion

Not Champion’s Belt; Champion is different

[zealous glen]

That works I suppose. It depends on what you want

[clear epoch]

nice, it's actually my favorite joker that i've implemented yet, its really fun to pickup in a run

there we go

[sonic cedar]

i was advised to do this earlier, do you guys know what the best way to store the last mult would be? (on that line)

[clear epoch]

i'll change the formatting later if i feel like it's needed

[sturdy compass]

oooh yes I like this

[spring lantern]

i wonder how much of a headache coding this will be

[zealous glen]

Yes

That’s how much

[spring lantern]

[zealous glen]

Actually for just Lucky cards you could hardcode it

[sturdy compass]

But for which effect?

[spring lantern]

both

[zealous glen]

Maybe take ownership of them

[spring lantern]

or maybe just mult iunno

[zealous glen]

How often is the Mult

1 in 5?

[spring lantern]

1 in 5 yeah

[zealous glen]

Multiply it by 5

So 5 in 5 and 5 in 20

[spring lantern]

thats what i was thinking

[zealous glen]

Still weak for a Legendary

[ionic fractal]

funny though

[spring lantern]

i could maybe just set odds for both to 1 in 1 lmao

[zealous glen]

I think that’s weak too

[spring lantern]

i mean

20 dollars

[zealous glen]

The issue with both is that you don’t have Lucky Cards

[spring lantern]

but you can add them to your deck

[clear epoch]

100 dollars a hand is not weak

[zealous glen]

If you assume you have Licky Cards then yeah guaranteed is OP

But if you don’t have them it’s weak

Better than Chicot still

[spring lantern]

so it's contextual

[clear epoch]

lucky cards aren't that hard to achieve though

[kindred heron]

How do i check for every scored card's chip number

[spring lantern]

triboulet is useless for a hack run

not all legendaries need to be op all the time

[kindred heron]

How do i know how much chips a playing card has

[clear epoch]

its about the same difficulty as caino

you need hanged men for that one

and faces

[spring lantern]

yea

[zealous glen]

I don’t think they need to be OP, but I do think the design of Legendaries doesn’t match how you get them well

That’s why I prefer Legendaries that change how you play the game

And I’d rather have a Super Rare rarity for stronger effects

[spring lantern]

thing is this mod also has more ways of getting legendaries :v

there's a rare booster pack that can give you legendaries

[zealous glen]

base plus bonus

Maybe get chip mod helps

[zealous glen]

In that case it’s turning Legendady into Super Rare

[clear epoch]

the effect itself shouldn't be too difficult to add as long as you can take ownership of the lucky card center

[spring lantern]

haven't worked with taking ownership of objects before so i might get a bit lost

[spring lantern]

i guess, doesn't 100% align with vanilla but it's not really meant to

[zealous glen]

It’s be like creating an Enhancement but you only need to define the new calculate function

[zealous glen]

It’s fine I’m just relating it to what I had said

[spring lantern]

fair

[clear epoch]

this is how unstable does it for fib for example

same as all other joker additions

[zealous glen]

Since Legendaries are hard to get, I don’t think they should be “conditionally good” in the sense that the condition is having the deck be built a certain way

But they should be conditional on playing a certain way

[zealous glen]

You don’t need this much if you don’t want to change this much

But ye

[spring lantern]

yeah just gotta change the calc function right

or maybe even just the config

gotta check the vanilla code

[clear epoch]

ik, it's just a piece of code that i had on me

[unborn wyvern]

how would i go about using smods to add a new palette to an existing collab deckskin?

[spring lantern]

what was the new func that replaced eval_this() for jokers?

calculate_joker?

[sturdy compass]

calculate_effect iirc

[zealous glen]

@clear epoch did you implement Hurdle yet

[clear epoch]

i mean yeah the screenshot i sent was from the in-game collection

[spring lantern]

so if i do this i could toggle the cat flag on/off to guarantee lucky hits when the joker is in deck?

[zealous glen]

I mean you can have the Joker in-game but not the art

How did you increment the Blind size

[zealous glen]

maybe using find_joker

either that or have the Joker set a global variable

"global"

[spring lantern]

i'm doing a global var rn, didn't know about find_joker

[sturdy compass]

Yeah I think a find_card would work well

[zealous glen]

by "global" I mean per run

[sonic cedar]

forgot to explain what the joker did. basically whenever you lose scoring mult (think the flint), the joker gains ten times that amount of chips. (eg: you lose 8 scoring mult, and the joker would gain and give 80 chips)

[spring lantern]

would be much easier

[clear epoch]

    key = "hurdle",
    loc_txt = {
        name = "Hurdle",
        text = {
            "Increases blind size by {C:attention}X#1#{}",
            "{C:green}#2# in #3#{} chance to generate a {C:dark_edition}Negative{}",
            "{C:attention}Fool{} upon leaving the shop area."
        }
    },

    config = { extra = { increase = 0.2, chance = 2 } },
    rarity = 2,
    atlas = "Jokers",
    pos = { x = 4, y = 0 },
    cost = 5,

    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { card.ability.extra.increase + 1, (G.GAME.probabilities.normal or 1), card.ability.extra.chance } }
    end,

    add_to_deck = function(self, card, from_debuff)
        G.GAME.blind.chips = G.GAME.blind.chips * (1+card.ability.extra.increase)
        G.GAME.blind.chip_text = number_format(G.GAME.blind.chips)
    end,

    remove_from_deck = function(self, card, from_debuff)
        G.GAME.blind.chips = G.GAME.blind.chips / (1 + card.ability.extra.increase)
        G.GAME.blind.chip_text = number_format(G.GAME.blind.chips)
    end,

    calculate = function(self, card, context)

        if context.setting_blind then
            G.GAME.blind.chips =  G.GAME.blind.chips * (1+card.ability.extra.increase)
            G.GAME.blind.chip_text = number_format(G.GAME.blind.chips)
        end
        
        if context.ending_shop then
            if pseudorandom("hurdle_j") < G.GAME.probabilities.normal / card.ability.extra.chance then
                local new_card = create_card("Tarot", G.consumeables, nil,nil, nil, nil, "c_fool", "obs")
                new_card:set_edition('e_negative', true)
                new_card:add_to_deck()
                G.consumeables:emplace(new_card)
            end
        end
    end

}

the code can probably be optimised a bit more

but it does work dynamically(instantly changes the blind size if u sell mid-round)

[zealous glen]

1. I recommend changing the wording to start with "When Blind is selected…" since it doesn't shrink when selling the Joker;
2. You can use the same animation I did if you want.

Bunco has a different one

[zealous glen]

oops I skipped that part

my bad

[spring lantern]

this might be the first joker i've ever made that has no calculate function

[zealous glen]

although I think the shrink doesn't quite work unless there's extra code elsewhere

[clear epoch]

it does

works even with multiple ones

[zealous glen]

does it win if you shrink under your current score

[clever abyss]

still getting this error even after making sprites

[clear epoch]

not instantly, u gotta play a hand first

which is intentional

[zealous glen]

that's what I meant by "doesn't quite work"

It's unintuitive IMO

but anyways

I think if you can get the benefit and then sell the Joker then it's not much of a Hurdle

[clear epoch]

i mean its easy to fix, but its to punish not knowing when to sell out of it

you lose out on 1 dollar

[zealous glen]

I don't think it's punishing. It just looks like a bug

[clear epoch]

uses a joker slot, and its a 1 in 2 chance only

unless you have a judgement its quite punishing to sell midround

[zealous glen]

I was gonna say that if it's a random Tarot it could maybe be every hand

[zealous glen]

It's not punishing to sell mid round

[clear epoch]

that's a legendary joker level effect

[zealous glen]

It's rewarding

Because you could've sold it earlier

[clear epoch]

but if you had sold it earlier, you still lose out on the joker slot for the round

[zealous glen]

I guess a Negative Tarot is still quite good

[zealous glen]

Not if you sell even earlier

Selling mid-round isn't punishing. Entering the round with it is punishing

Selling is rewarding because the Blind is easier

[clear epoch]

balatro itself punishes the player by having them waste the joker slots with junk, this is the same design philosophy

[zealous glen]

what do you mean

[clear epoch]

rental riff raff

[zealous glen]

That's not junk

[clear epoch]

you take it and sell it before the round ends, you didnt lose money, but you won't always take it because of how precious slots are

and there's a big chance it does nothing at all

[zealous glen]

and I'm just saying that the punishment in your design isn't in selling it, it's in having it as the round starts

[kindred heron]

How do i remove -1 hand from the player

[clear epoch]

i don't see how this is dfferent

[zealous glen]

see burglar

[zealous glen]

if you had sold it before the round, you could've bought something else. If you sell it during the round, it's easier than keeping it during the round

So at no point selling is punishing

Keeping is punishing

Because you neither buy something else and the Blind is higher

[hushed field]

I don't think vanilla has situations in which I'd consider selling a punishment. It's almost always the out for a worse consequence, like the cost of rental at the end of round

[tender python]

I went and looked at some other jokers and added some stuff seems I may have broken it more though 😅

[chrome widget]

General lua question, does the # operator for length on tables not work if the keys for the table entries aren't numerical indeces?

[zealous glen]

what do you mean by "not work"

[clear epoch]

G.GAME.current_round.hands_left

[random sleet]

it doesnt count table entries that do not have numerical indices

[zealous glen]

they should use ease_hands

[clear epoch]

G.GAME.round_resets.hands if you want it as a permanent effect

[zealous glen]

not change the hands directly

again see Burglar

[clear epoch]

that works too, i never knew that was a function lmao

[chrome widget]

Shit, okay. Does that also mean it would "miscount" the length of a jagged array. I.E. your table is [1], [3], [5], it would list the length as 5 despite only three entires?

[zealous glen]

which AFAIK is the intended behaviour, so, like, it works by the definition of the people who made it

[zealous glen]

I think that would be 1

not 5

not sure

1, 2, 3, and 5 would be 3

[clear epoch]

i've never seen the field indices matter with the #

[zealous glen]

@chrome widget also # isn't the array length operator. It's the "last entry" operator, except more like "last sequential integer entry starting from 1".

I think they need to be sequential

hence 1 not 5

but it might be 5 as it's the last (non-sequential) integer entry

[chrome widget]

point being, for a non-indexed table, I need to get the length manually

[zealous glen]

@clear epoch anyways both my mod and Bunco have different animations to change the Blind size

[chrome widget]

learn something new every day

[zealous glen]

well it's not an array

[chrome widget]

I'm..... aware? But because every data structure is basically a table, you need to use tables as arrays

[clear epoch]

i'm fine with just a chip text change

[zealous glen]

you could construct your own arrays, either using tables or Idk if Lua allows some more basic object

[random sleet]

everything is a table its the most basic object

[chrome widget]

the reason for this question is because G.GAME.hands is not indexed, and I'm just making a simple batch_level function to which black hole would pass that in

[zealous glen]

Zermelo and Fraenkel:

[clear epoch]

i don't know if there's a built in function for that, but worst comes to worst you can always loop throught ipairs() and do it the hard way

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[chrome widget]

like yeah, I gotta. It's annoying, but w/e

[zealous glen]

not ipairs, pairs

unless the indices are all sequential integers

[clear epoch]

oh that's the difference

i never knew that

then pairs it is

[chrome widget]

yeah ipairs is indexed pairs

[zealous glen]

what about SMODS.PokerHands

[chrome widget]

I didn't know that was a thing until you just told me

[kindred heron]

How to detact chips from every card played

[chrome widget]

I pull from vanilla code most of the time

[kindred heron]

I cant find a joker that does that

[spring lantern]

am i doing this wrong

i mean of course i am but whats the right way of doing it

[zealous glen]

see what's the signature for Enhancement calculate functions

[clear epoch]

same, i found it more helpful to learn the balatro src code than the smods code

[spring lantern]

forgot to pass the card into the calc function

[kindred heron]

Help

[chrome widget]

There we go, fixed now

[clear epoch]

this is how hiker does it

i think just setting ability.extra to something negative should work the same way unless it's hardcoded somewhere else

[chrome widget]

And if I want to do mod compatibility, I can take the functions of other multi-planet objects and feed them to batch_level_up(). Really the only reason I did this is because I have a card that scales mult with planet levels and I didn't want it to give 12 independent +1 messages for each hand, having added a context for hand upgrades

So batch level up exists just to give a single update that says [x] hands were upgraded [y] times so it an say +12

[clear epoch]

but looking more, it should work just finea

[edgy reef]

card.ability.extra can be both a number and a table.

Table is just more useful since it allows multiple values

[clear epoch]

for hiker it's a number so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i was just talking about that specific case

[kindred heron]

Cant get it to work noe

Will sleep

[zealous glen]

@clear epoch do you have more Jokers

[clear epoch]

yea but i'm currently working on the sticker examples mod

[chrome widget]

this looks awesome as hell, I'm love

[sturdy compass]

Joe's reference

[tepid crow]

is that a mf jojo reference

[clear epoch]

i've started jojo 2 days ago

had you made this joker a little bit faster i would've missed out on the reference

[hushed field]

that pixelart's gorgeous

[clear epoch]

it is indeed

but the effect giving holo seems a bit weak

since it blocks ecto

[chrome widget]

big thanks to Cauthen, he writes a JoJo fan manga and has been a huge help on the project

[zealous glen]

That looks awesome. Interesting effect too

[zealous glen]

Show some later when I'm not about to go to sleep

[chrome widget]

Inherently all three of the equivalent ones block Ecto yeah

And like yeah negative is really good, but is also the least common. So it's a risk to take one of these

[zealous glen]

why is Foil Perishable

[clear epoch]

i think poly + eternal and holo + rental would be better

[chrome widget]

Just where it stands rn. we talke about swapping Foil and Holographic

[clear epoch]

but it's your call after all

[zealous glen]

I think Peri + Holo and Eternal + Foil would be better

[clear epoch]

also, you could try to make it a selectable joker instead of a random one

[zealous glen]

Foil is the weaker Edition so tying it to Eternal makes sense

[clear epoch]

because both eternal and perishable are very very distructive

[zealous glen]

Poly is stronger so either Rental or Perishable works

[chrome widget]

ultimately Polychrome is with Rental b/c we considered Rental to be the worst of the three IMO

[zealous glen]

makes sense

[spring lantern]

wtf...

[chrome widget]

Rental is super difficult to work around especially early game when even small xmult bonuses are really strong

[zealous glen]

I like the concepts behind the Spectrals. Very clever

[zealous glen]

You tell me. I have a Joker designed around it and I hate it the more I look at it

[clear epoch]

i have a personal vendetta against eternals, i've never ever seen a non eternal acrobat on gold stake 😭

[chrome widget]

But yeah we might switch Holo and Foil. It kinda depends on your opinion on Eternal. IMO I think eternal is the sticker I choose the most, whereas I pass up rental and perishable far more often

[zealous glen]

I think Eternal is the only one that can be an actual upside. So it's the strongest one

[chrome widget]

So if it's the least risk, then it should probably be given Holo, but also my personal experience with bulds leads me to focus on mult far more than chips a lot of the time, so I end up with a lot of mid-late game build that only get chip bonuses from planets

I.E. a foil bonus is still "strong" to some degree mid-game

But ofc that's anecdotal

I could also just be playing wrong most of the time, it's Balatro 😭

[zealous glen]

I think gaining Chips is the weakest effect, and it's weaker mid-game

Late game, I can see the argument towards either Chips or Mult being better; both are outclassed by xMult anyways

[zealous glen]

How do I even salvage this 😭

[chrome widget]

Mmm, yeah

Arguably that makes Ichor the one with the least risk in the late-game too, because if you have decent economy at that point, you're able to circumvent the cost of a guaranteed polychrome

But you gotta get there first

[zealous glen]

Maybe

I dunno if you want Ichor late-game since you should already have better

[chrome widget]

At that point, yeah, probably

But if you don't have editions on some stuff late, it probably won't hurt

[clear epoch]

just add 2 new editions, problem solved

cuz honestly neither chips nor mult will ever make the perishable worth

and unless you can target the eternal i'd also never use it

[zealous glen]

I think Perishable is neutral

It just tells you that you can't keep the Joker long-term

[spring lantern]

i have no idea why this happens or how to fix it

[zealous glen]

and that might already be the case

[clear epoch]

not at all, especially if it is random

i'd never risk my best joker just for 50 chips or 20 mult

[chrome widget]

We might make em targetable, but I'm not sure. We have another Spectral that does specify the leftmost joker and I'm not really sure why it's the odd one out, except that the ideas were floated by different people

[zealous glen]

The random does make it more situational

[chrome widget]

Although this one does inherently make more sense to be targetable anyway

[zealous glen]

During the demo, we had the most broken seal except since it was random it was garbage

[zealous glen]

You know it can just target a selected Joker right?

[clear epoch]

why make it the leftmost one?

[chrome widget]

Wasn't written by me. The person who made it probably wasn't aware that it would be easier to highlight it

[clear epoch]

that makes sense

[chrome widget]

I'm the lead programmer, but not the sole creator of content for the mod

So people sometimes make assumption about what is/is not easy to implement

[clear epoch]

you could suggest this, just for qol sake

[zealous glen]

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tasks.png

[chrome widget]

Definitely will, whenever I get to it

I'm working on some legendaries rn

[zealous glen]

what's the mod about

[chrome widget]

It's a collaborative mod for the JoJo's Bizarre Fanworks server, which is a hub for JoJo fanfic/fanmanga/fangames. In addition to some baseline canonical JoJo content (courtesy of BarrierTrio, co-creator of Cardsauce that will also feature some JoJo content), most of the content is stuff from various projects made by the server members, including my own

[zealous glen]

Ah I see

Explains why they feel JoJo-like but aren't JoJo

[ivory coral]

how do i check for a specific joker when retriggering jokers? im trying to make a joker that retriggers retriggers only specific jokers, so i need a way to check that context.other_card == <specific joker> when retriggering

[zealous glen]

I think JoJo changed my approach to fictional powers/abilities when I found out about it

[chrome widget]

this is my personal favorite addition so far, which is based on an arc in a fic called Streetlight Pursuit where the characters get trapped in an arcade cabinet (Cabinet Man). Unfinished, ofc

[zealous glen]

look for the other Joker's key

[zealous glen]

That's a good song

[spring lantern]

i have no idea what the fuck im doing in the slightest

[clear epoch]

dude this is SICK

[ivory coral]

i presume thats something like context.other_card == j_joker for example?
or is it context.other_card.key, or something im not sure

[hushed field]

that's so insane for a joker mechanic, and feels so in line with jojo. that's rad

[clear epoch]

how did you even manage to pull this offffff

[sturdy compass]

Instead of checking for count, just put the find_card call in a next() wrapper

[zealous glen]

I think it's like context.other_card.center.config.key?

[chrome widget]

https://github.com/nico-abram/LuaNES Courtesy of LuaNES, an emulator by Nico Abram

[zealous glen]

not sure about the other of center and config or if it's config and not something else

[chrome widget]

I basically rewrote its main function to instead use the joker as a frontend, and draw the overlay on the screen, + feeding in input from Love2D

And then it checks certain ram locations to gauge whether or not you've win or lost

[zealous glen]

I knew about the old mod that just put this game into Balatro so I wasn't as surprised ^^'

[hushed field]

that's insanely cool

[crisp elbow]

It was Mario Brie

*bros

[chrome widget]

Yeye I got the idea from the Super Mario Bros mod/love2D implementation, and then Keku, from Cardsauce, also attempted to use it for a tetris-playing joker before just saying screw it and writing tetris from scratch since it's not a very difficult game to write anyway

[clear epoch]

so does this mean that balatro can run doom...

[chrome widget]

probably,,,,,,,

[zealous glen]

I remember Donkey Kong

[chrome widget]

if we tried hard enough

[zealous glen]

Maybe someone else did Donkey Kong

or I'm misremembering

I'm tired @_@

[chrome widget]

Regardless, it also plays TMNT II: The Arcade Game and Dragon's Lair, but neither of those are finished yet b/c I was busy on other stuff. I'm gonna have to use a hex editor or something to find some decent ram mapping for the latter which I'm not looking forward with but I guess this is my first foray into romhacking now

[clear epoch]

[chrome widget]

Bucky when he uses his ult

[zealous glen]

Bucky?

[clear epoch]

who's bucky 😭

[chrome widget]

(this is a marvel rivals joke)

[zealous glen]

from Marvel Snap?

[clear epoch]

ah i don't play many shooters

just fortnite because of miku(deadass)

[chrome widget]

based

[zealous glen]

a few years ago I was writing down so many Stand ideas

[chrome widget]

Well if you're interested in throwing stuff around with people, the server's a welcoming place

Otherwise, this mod'll be public when it comes out! Hopefully it'll have a decent amount of canon JoJo content too for people not familiar with the fan stuff. That's just more guided by the Cardsauce team than by me

[zealous glen]

I did get interested but I've been away from it for a while @_@ maybe I join and lurk idk

[chrome widget]

👀

[zealous glen]

I'd need to find out how to join

[edgy reef]

(from https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1336202533282250752 )

[chrome widget]

thank you

[plush cove]

when I first started Mistigris, i underestimated how hard it would be to develop something like this

i was only able to do it with the help of Aiksi

[clear epoch]

wait that is so peak

[clear epoch]

crazy how the free reroll part is x10 easier than the condition itself

[hushed field]

Wait, does Bucky have an iconic ult in Marvel Rivals? I don't have an effect yet for the Winter Soldier joker, so I guess a retrigger is a good option 😋

[edgy reef]

Yea

[plush cove]

oh no the free reroll part was the hardest

especially when it comes to having multiple of this Joker

[clear epoch]

wha

[chrome widget]

In Rivals he jumps up into the air and does this big tentacle attack with his arm. He can do it multiple times in a row. The first time it activates he says "ARMED AND DANGEROUS", and all subsequent times he says "AGAIN"

[clear epoch]

can't you just increase G.GAME.round_resets.shop_rerolls or however that field is called?

[minor furnace]

After looking at this for a while, I still don't quite understand how this works or how to use it to do what I'm trying to do 💀

[zealous glen]

why does bucky have a tentacle arm

[edgy reef]

SMODS reworked this to be less annoying so nah

[chrome widget]

I assume it's something related to Hydra actually having some kind of basis as a tentacle monster cult. I'm not familiar enough with it

[edgy reef]

You call SMODS.change_free_rerolls and pass how many to add/remove

[ivory coral]

cant get it to work, ive got if context.other_card.config.center_key == G.P_CENTERS.j_blueprint then (im trying to copy blueprint in this) and ive also tried ... == 'j_blueprint', any other ideas maybe

i am reasonably confident its supposed to be config.center.key from searching this channel at least

[clear epoch]

cool, then it should be even easier. i mostly go off pure source code

[edgy reef]

The issue is that beforehand you'd have to inject since the code to make it work for Chaos would override any changes you'd make to it.

[clear epoch]

just use the key itself(aka "j_blueprint"), don't call p_centers

[zealous glen]

card.config.center.key == yeah

I checked just now

I feel like 'j_blueprint' should work

[clear epoch]

also yeah it should be center.key not center_key

[ivory coral]

i presume you mean if context.other_card.config.center_key == 'j_blueprint' though i tried that earlier

[ivory coral]

yeah thats what i had at first

[zealous glen]

as I just said

context.other_card.config.center.key == 'j_blueprint'

[ivory coral]

thats what i have now, doesnt seem to work

ill try debugging a bit maybe its going wrong somewhere else

[zealous glen]

do you have center.key or center_key

[clear epoch]

and why does it not work? does it crash or just nothing happens?

[hushed field]

Hmm, I guess I'll CA:Winter Soldier a retrigger joker, and see how I can make it fit the flavour of a tentacle arm and jumping up in the air.

[ivory coral]

center.key

[ivory coral]

nothing happens

[clear epoch]

if nothing happens consider putting a SMODS.juice_up_blind() after the if

it might be the code afterwards that is faulty

not the if itself

[ivory coral]

currently checking for smth like that

[clear epoch]

oh if you're doing joker retriggers you should probably send over the whole code block since that's a SMODS only feature

and unless you've enabled it as an optional feature it won't work

i've had a similar issue before as well

[ivory coral]

ive done that already it can retrigger jokers fine
its just trying to tell it which ones im struggling at

ill send my calculate though

        if context.retrigger_joker_check and not context.retrigger_joker and context.other_card ~= card then --if triggering another joker
            if context.other_card.config.center.key == 'j_blueprint' or context.other_card.config.center.key == 'j_brainstorm' then --if it's a blueprint/brainstorm
                if card.ability.extra.retriggers < 1 then card.ability.extra.retriggers = 1
                    return {
                        message = localize('k_again_ex'),
                        repetitions = card.ability.extra.retriggers, --retrigger it
                        card = card,
                    }
                end
            end
        end
    end```

previously i just had it retrigger any joker but itself but im reworking it a bit now into just blueprints/brainstorms but it never seems to actually pass a check for them

[ionic timber]

I might be stupid but all of a sudden everything that uses a hand level in my code stopped working, was .level changed in the latest SMODS update ?

For the sake of example : mult = G.GAME.hands[G.GAME.last_hand_played].level, this used to work, now it doesn't

[clear epoch]

in theory this should not depend on SMODS, it's vanilla code chunks

check something else that might've broken

[ionic timber]

hmm now that I think about it, can something like Talisman break things up ?

I installed it recently to add x_chips to a joker I created

but that's the only thing I can think of

[solid surge]

how can i make a joker that gives money depending on specific cards you play (like golden ticket or rough gem)

this is for a joker im working on that has buffed gemstone joker abilities

[granite bane]

how can I make card_eval_status_text happen right when the function is called? is that possible?

The joker I'm making has an event triggering outsinde the normal contexts, but when I call the function it's waiting till whatever context is put in. to display the text

is there a context that means "now"

[ionic timber]

yup, disabled it, now the problem is gone

[clear epoch]

if context.individual and cardarea = G.play then
 if --- check for suit/enhancement --- then
  return {
    dollars = ...
    card = context.other_card
  }
  end
end

[ivory coral]

ok ive figured it out, i just removed the if check after the blueprint/brainstorm check and it works perfectly
idk how that ended up broken but at least i caught it
thanks for the help ^^

[clear epoch]

something along those lines

[solid surge]

ohhh! i've just been doing card = card, that might be why it isnt working

[granite bane]

what's context.individual

[ionic timber]

used for effect on each playing cards individually

[granite bane]

ah

[ionic timber]

a return in this context is used directly on the playing card, baron does that

[granite bane]

does anyone know what I can do for this

[ionic timber]

fixed it I think, adding :to_number() at the end seems to work

[clear epoch]

ohhhhh i think ik why

u used card.ability.... not other_card

so that bit of code messed up

cuz it was checking for repetitions on the actual joker not blueprints

[ivory coral]

oooh that figures doesnt it
rip

[solid surge]

nvm, the issue was that i used money = card.ability.extra.money instead of dollars = card.ability.extra.money

[clear epoch]

ah well glad it works XD

[clear epoch]

yep, all card = card would do wrong would be that the money from of the joker not the cards

[clear epoch]

made the same mistake in the beginning too

[ivory coral]

one more question though if i may, how do i get the "Again!" message to actually appear on this joker?
both card = card and card = self put it on the joker being retriggered (or on a card triggering the joker effect like arrowhead)

[clear epoch]

card = context.other_card

[clear epoch]

literally the same thing

[ivory coral]

no change
this joker (the one that causes the retrigger) isnt even juicing actually
for reference my return{} is currently

repetitions = card.ability.extra.retriggers, --retrigger it
card = context.other_card,```

[clear epoch]

it might be due to how the retrigger contexts work

your code works during the joker retrigger check phase

[ivory coral]

hm you might be right
for retrigger jokers being copied it does kinda work as one would expect
maybe itll just be like that

[clear epoch]

not the actual retriggers

i think the retrigger phase happens once for all jokers then the retriggers happen equal to number of repetitions to each individual joker

as opposed to card repetitions which they all are seperate from one another at all times

[granite bane]

so is this not a thing that exists

I'm digging around source code and I just can't find anything

[languid rune]

Anyone know if there's an easy way to force a single or group of custom boss blinds to appear for each ante, Ignoring the default boss blinds. or removing the defaults from the pool?

I know the Balatro Multiplayer mod does this, but scrubbing through their code I can't seem to find out how. 😭

[clear epoch]

don't know about forcing blinds but if you want to ban a blind you can do G.GAME.banned_keys["bl_psychic"] = true (replace psychic with any boss key)

[minor furnace]

at this point, I think it would have been faster for me to implement the blind effects manually..

[granite bane]

if there was any way to like create your own context or something

that would be valuable

[plush cove]

SMODS.calculate_context({context_name = true})

[granite bane]

okay that should be good thanks

wait how would I use that

[plush cove]

make a lovely patch or a hook

[granite bane]

wait so I can't just use that in the mod main lua?

[plush cove]

you can, you'd just have to make a hook

[granite bane]

how do I do that

essentially my goal is to have
card_eval_status_text(<custom context here>)

[languid rune]

This is more than helpful! Gives me some other ideas as well! Thank you! ❤️

[clear epoch]

you're welcome

remember that it works with any key not just bosses

[upbeat lark]

sorry if this is a bloody stupid but the smart one in this project is currently out and i cannot for the life of me figure out why it eats a card when it doesn't trigger

    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        local destroyed_cards = {}
        if context.cardarea == G.play and #context.full_hand == 1 and context.full_hand[1]:get_id() == 6 then
            if pseudorandom('roulette') < G.GAME.probabilities.normal / card.ability.extra.odds then

                for i = #context.scoring_hand, 1, -1 do
                    destroyed_cards[#destroyed_cards + 1] = context.scoring_hand
                end
                return {
                    message = "BANG!",

                    --repetitions = 5,
                    card = card,
                }
            else
                return {
                    message = "click...",

                    card = card,
                }
            end
        end
    end,

[unkempt thicket]

how can i get jokers from game values? Like a table for them

[granite bane]

I'm still just trying to figure out the thing I was on 3 hours ago

[tender python]

is there a list of code for the descriptions of jokers? for changing text color/showing stats/showing current accumulated stat

[languid rune]

This is off the top of my head but If you want the table of jokers you currently have on hand it's G.jokers.cards

[granite bane]

I might just have to give up on my joker having ui when it upgrades

[random sleet]

[granite bane]

i literally just want it to trigger card_eval_status_text when I call the function rather than it waiting on a context and it's extremely frustrating that I can't find any way to just do that easily

[unkempt thicket]

That's for the jokers in the players card area, I'm looking for all of the jokers like where collection stores them.

[manic rune]

jesus

for the perma stuff

[random sleet]

no thats the other guy

[manic rune]

you can just have a table though

💀

[random sleet]

perman't

[manic rune]

perman

[wind arch]

does anyone know if theres a place to ask things relating to Lovely injector specifically? im trying to figure out something relating to patching

[red flower]

here

[manic rune]

https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector?tab=readme-ov-file#patches

but yeah, #💻・modding-dev is to ask everything relating to dev

[red flower]

this works for me

 G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
            func = function() card_eval_status_text(self, 'extra', nil, nil, nil, {message = localize('k_upgrade_ex')}); return true
            end}))

change self for what the card is

[wind arch]

• is it only possible to load patches from the mods directory
• how does the mod loading order of steamodded work? is it random or is there any way for a mod to influence its own ordering

tldr im trying to figure out how a balatro modpack and save instance manager akin to something like modded minecraft's prism launcher and i theoretically know how a love2d game's save/mods directory can be switched but im not sure how id actually execute that

[stray warren]

you can change the priority in the metadata.json

[red flower]

Lovely patches need to be in a lovely.toml file in your mod's top level folder or inside a lovely folder if that's what you mean in the first question

[glad osprey]

rate the decks

[wind arch]

hmm okay rip thats what i was worried about

like tbh im not even sure if a mod could execute this because if it has to be in the mods directory then at that point it might already be too late in the mod loading process

like the first mod loaded by steamodded then switching the mods directory seems unsafe at worst or ineffective at best depending on if it stores that directory to reference beforehand

[modern kindle]

i see development has resumed indeed

[red flower]

the best thing might be using .lovelyignore like smods does to disable mods depending on the profile

[random sleet]

the chaos never ends

[wind arch]

🤔 interesting, where can i find more information about .lovelyignore? or where does smods do this as an example

[granite bane]

that's still got a bunch of delay

[random sleet]

it is done from the mods menu :)

[granite bane]

like it's waiting till the joker is triggered again

[red flower]

i think that might be a problem with your code

mine triggers instantly, I hooked into card:highlight to make it display the msg every time i click it

[granite bane]

    
    if not context.blueprint then
            for i = 1, #G.jokers.cards do
                if G.jokers.cards[i].ability.perishable then
                    if G.jokers.cards[i].ability.perish_tally == 0 then
                        G.jokers.cards[i].ability.perish_tally = -1
                        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                            blocking = false,
                            delay = 0.25,
                            blockable = false,
                            func = function()
                        play_sound('tarot1')
                        card:juice_up(0.3, 0.4)
                        card.ability.extra.x_mult = card.ability.extra.x_mult + card.ability.extra.x_mult_gain
                        card_eval_status_text(card, 'extra', nil, nil, nil, {message = localize{type='variable',key='a_xmult',vars={card.ability.extra.x_mult}}, colour = G.C.RED})

                        return true;
                            end
                            
                        }))
                    end 
                end
            end
                end```

[wind arch]

hmm wait, can mods be toggled with steamodded per balatro profile?

[granite bane]

It's supposed to triggere whenever another card perishes

and it does, everything but the card_eval_status_text. the sound, juice_up, and ability effect trigger when it happens

[red flower]

no afaik

[red flower]

ohhhh yeah calculate is only called on context
either make your own or make a hook somewhere to trigger it instantly

[wind arch]

homestuck reference spotted

[tender python]

is there a list of code for the descriptions of jokers? for changing text color/showing stats/showing current accumulated stat

[random sleet]

this includes summing up all the base chips of all the cards

[granite bane]

why does everything else trigger when it's supposed to?

[red flower]

this explains it https://github.com/Steamodded/examples/blob/d43316d97bc927f3de431dd84c0283d41e69761a/Mods/ExampleJokersMod/ModdedVanilla.lua#L37

[red flower]

wdym

[wind arch]

its funny to see how common homestuck references have seemed in balatro mods lol. it hasnt been a lot but definitely an above average amount

i can only guess the card aesthetics lured people in lol

[random sleet]

i got into homestuck from balatro

[wind arch]

oh nice

[wind arch]

the cycle of stupidity is complete (refrance)

or was it circle idr

[random sleet]

its not complete til i have triple the basegame's joker count

[wind arch]

true

[red flower]

stupid question but have you tried removing the delay

[random sleet]

its delaying so much because it's triggering on EVERY CONTEXT

[red flower]

yeah also

[granite bane]

yeah

couldn't find a context that would just trigger it when a perishable joker perishes so I just have it running constantly.

[red flower]

have you tried printing the context when it triggers to see which one it is

[granite bane]

is that just print(context)?

[random sleet]

print(inspect(context))

[wind arch]

okay nice found where the ui writes this and where mod loading reads it https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/blob/main/src/ui.lua#L920, https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/blob/main/src/loader.lua#L243. this seems like a pretty good reference point for understanding how the loading is being done.

[red flower]

you could try to integrate that directly into smods honestly

[red flower]

it's probably being called in context.end_of_round now that I see it

or maybe not but something just before that

[wind arch]

i thought about writing a feature request or something just to have stuff about the idea written down somewhere that other devs could maybe think about but tbh i have been a bit stuck on knowing if smods could even do what im trying to do. although i guess it could maybe if it made configuration per profile aand then made it so switching profiles reloaded all mods but idk yet if that kind of thing is easier said than done

[red flower]

the point is that you need to make your own context

[granite bane]

I tried for like an hour

[wind arch]

hmm okay for more clarification is priority handling a thing in steamodded only or can direct lovely mods also have some priority ordering to them or is it mostly just dependent on where youre patching into in the order of code execution

(like having to patch somewhere earlier in balatro's initialization or something for example)

[cerulean rose]

lovely patches can have priorities

[wind arch]

oh i see, im blind lol

guess thats not surprising it makes sense for a patch system to have that

[red flower]

local card_calculate_perishable_ref = Card.calculate_perishable
function Card:calculate_perishable()
    card_calculate_perishable_ref(self)
    SMODS.calculate_context({card_perished = true, card = self})
end

try that

[tender python]

I'm confused how #1# and #2# are set in config, is it just the order of things in config or is there something I'm missing? also thank you!

[granite bane]

where would I put that?

in the function or somewhere else

[cerulean rose]

its the order of values returned from loc_vars

[red flower]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Localization#loc_vars

[red flower]

somewhere outside in your main code

then use context.card_perished

[granite bane]

"card_eval_status_text(context.card_perished"

that?

[red flower]

if context.card_perished and not context.blueprint then

[granite bane]

yeah I did that and it just did the same thing as here

where it doesn't trigger the text when the mult is being added, it waits

I deleted the delay as well

still does it

[red flower]

weird, let me check

[granite bane]

            for i = 1, #G.jokers.cards do
                if G.jokers.cards[i].ability.perishable then
                    if G.jokers.cards[i].ability.perish_tally == 0 then
                    print(inspect(context))
                        G.jokers.cards[i].ability.perish_tally = -1
                        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                            blocking = false,
                            blockable = false,
                            func = function()
                        play_sound('tarot1')
                        card:juice_up(0.3, 0.4)
                        card.ability.extra.x_mult = card.ability.extra.x_mult + card.ability.extra.x_mult_gain
                        card_eval_status_text(card, 'extra', nil, nil, nil, {message = localize{type='variable',key='a_xmult',vars={card.ability.extra.x_mult}}, colour = G.C.RED})

                        return true;
                            end
                            
                        }))
                    end 
                end
            end
                end```

[tender python]

ok so for example
loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
return { vars = { card.ability.extra.mult_gain, card.ability.extra.mult } }
end,

mult_gain would be #1# now and mult would be #2#,and I'm guessing more values can be added after to?

sorry for the noob questions 🙏 thank you all

[red flower]

yes

[tender python]

thank you!

[red flower]

just realized that I forgot to check the perish tally but that's probably not the problem

[granite bane]

well yeah it also works the same if I do end_of_round

Everything except the display for the upgrade is working as I want.

For some reason that's lagging behind significantly no matter what I do.

[minor furnace]

I might just remove the 'cards drawn facedown' effects from the pool instead of figuring out how to make this work

        if not G.GAME.blind.disabled then
            return G.GAME.blank_obj:stay_flipped(area, card)
        end
    end,```

[red flower]

works for me

[vapid cloak]

how can i make it so certain jokers dont appear in the shop? similar to how legendaries dont appear in the shop

[granite bane]

what's different?

[plush cove]

    in_pool = function()
        return false
    end,```

[vapid cloak]

tyty

[granite bane]

can you send the code as text so I can copy paste and see if that works

[red flower]

local card_calculate_perishable_ref = Card.calculate_perishable
function Card:calculate_perishable()
    local prev_tally = self.ability.perish_tally
    card_calculate_perishable_ref(self)
    if prev_tally == 1 then
        SMODS.calculate_context({ card_perished = true, card = self })
    end
end
-- in calculate
if context.card_perished then
            return {
                message = localize("k_upgrade_ex")
            }
        end

[plush cove]

WE LOVE NAMING HOOKS AFTER THE FUNCTIONS

[random sleet]

WHAT is that notation

[red flower]

snake_camelCase

[plush cove]

i reserve the Case for putting in the "ref" part of the local

because they're unique compared to others

[random sleet]

no the colon type notation??? ive never seen that in lua in my life

[plush cove]

this is in my .luarc

[edgy reef]

It's just a type hint display, the text isn't actually there.

[random sleet]

oh... kay.....

[tepid crow]

I mean, it's also kinda useless there

but yay

[wintry idol]

i thought regular lua didnt support those

weird

maybe ive been doing it wr

oh wait

u said tyhe text isnt there

💔

[tepid crow]

the text isn't actually there haha

[wintry idol]

yeah oops LOOL

[granite bane]

Well it's working. I guess this is one of those "if it works then just don't think about it" moments

Cause I already spent enough time thinking about this lol

[hasty ravine]

Will doing something like this count the number of scored cards in a hand?

[plush cove]

should do!

[hasty ravine]

Oh my yay

[plush cove]

try it out and see what happens

[minor furnace]

I now have The Blank "working"*

• could not get the card-flipping blind effects to be compatible
• it still breaks if you exit in the middle of it, reload, and try to play a hand. It fixes itself if you do this, and then use a consumable or sell a card, which apparently retriggers the blind

I don't know what about selling or using a consumable re-enables the blind effect

maybe it's some sort of context update

[wispy elk]

        if context.selling_card then
            if card.key == self.key then        
                G.GAME.current_round.indomitable_currentMult = 0.7
                G.GAME.current_round.indomitable_increment = 0.15
            end
        end ```
I did this to try and reset the counters on my joker when the card is sold but that didn't seem to do it, what is the better way to identify if the card being sold is my card?

[plush cove]

if context.selling_self

[wispy elk]

derp

[random sleet]

card.key doesn't exist

[wispy elk]

I entirely missed selling_self when going through the list

[minor furnace]

maybe if I can figure out where it sets the blind from on load save, I can add a check to see if it is The Blank, and then trigger the secondary blind effect? 🤔

[red flower]

isn't it just blind:load

[minor furnace]

yeah that's probably it

patch incoming, fingers crossed

It solved the problem!

[tender python]

is there a command for debug/debugplus to just add a certain joker?

[red flower]

go to the collection and press 3 over the joker

[tender python]

thank you!

[wispy elk]

https://github.com/unkwntech/indomitablemod
My first mod is officially live!

Thanks for the help

[rapid stag]

i'm trying to very briefly change the y value in a the soul_pos of a joker i'm working on for a fun little visual effect - in the calculate function, is changing card.config.center.soul_pos.y correct?

[tardy wind]

GG !

[hasty ravine]

Would G.Game.blind.boss.name give me the name of the current boss blind?

[hollow plover]

hello all. im having some difficulty getting the modding API to work at all. im trying to understand the guide, but i think i need someone to walk me through while im doing it. i have the balatro mod manager installed, but i cant get steammodded moved to the right place or the right file where it needs to be

[tardy wind]

This aint really a support channel, but you need to place steamodded in %appdata%/Roaming/Balatro/Mods

[tardy wind]

if the property actually exists, then yes

But i dont think .boss exists

[primal shoal]

whats the context for a opening a booster like this? ``` if context.booster_open then
-- add mult
end

[primal shoal]

thx

[paper zealot]

BMM should be able to install Steamodded for you. Like luma said, it should be located in %AppData%/Balatro/Mods

[rapid stag]

like

calculate = function(self, card, context)
...
card.config.center.soul_pos.y = 2
delay(0.5)
card.config.center.soul_pos.y = 1

do i need to do something like force a redraw of the joker, or...

[tardy wind]

probably

hud:recalculate or something ?

(no idea how visual effects work)

[rapid stag]

...maybe card:set_sprites(card.config.center)?

this was right - i had to do it by adding event manager events:

G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
  trigger = 'immediate',
  delay = 0.01,
  blocking = false,
  func = function()
    card.config.center.soul_pos.y = 2
    card:set_sprites(card.config.center)
                        
    G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
      trigger = 'after',
      delay = 0.3,
      blocking = false,
      func = function()
        card.config.center.soul_pos.y = 1 
        card:set_sprites(card.config.center)
        return true
      end}))
    return true
  end}))

[runic pecan]

What is the context for "taking a joker from a booster pack"?

[red flower]

pretty sure there isn't one

you need to patch it here

[wind arch]

if im making a basic lovely patch on its own do I just need ModFolder/lovely/patchname.toml?

without steamodded

[red flower]

yes

[wind arch]

hmm okay whats the best way to verify whether a patch is being loaded or not

[plush cove]

check lovely/dump and find your code

[red flower]

that or check the console

i think it tells you

[wind arch]

hmm im getting neither so i guess that answers that question

i should probably test this in a regular setup first before moving it over to my jank wip modpack setup

[paper comet]

Not sure why this is happening. I got a similar error to this before when i was missing the info_queue parameter in loc_vars, however this seems to be a different reason.

... fsr the images arent uploading

key = "mediocre_settlement",
    atlas = "mediocre_settlement",
    rarity = 1,
    cost = 2,
    unlocked = true,
    discovered = true,
    blueprint_compat = true,
    eternal_compat = true,
    perishable_compat = true,
    config = { extra = { mult = 4 } },
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { card.ability.extra.mult } }
    end,
    in_pool = function(self)
        return true
        -- return G.LOBBY.code and G.LOBBY.config.multiplayer_jokers
    end,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if not self.debuff then
            if context.other_joker then
                if context.other_joker.config.center.rarity == 1 and self ~= context.other_joker then
                    G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                        func = function()
                            context.other_joker:juice_up(0.5, 0.5)
                            return true
                        end
                    }))
                    return {
                        mult_mod = card.ability.extra.mult,
                        message = localize { type = 'variable', key = 'a_mult', vars = { card.ability.extra.mult } }
                    }
                end
            end
        end
    end

and the error message was INFO - [G] 2025-02-28 11:31:42 :: ERROR :: StackTrace :: Oops! The game crashed [SMODS ChipOverflow "ChipOverflow.lua"]:86: attempt to index field 'extra' (a nil value)

(line 86 is return { vars = { card.ability.extra.mult } } if thats helpful)

[normal crest]

make sure to start a new run

Also two things, self is not a card, it's the center of the card, and you don't need to check if your own joker is debuffed

calculate won't be called if it's debuffed

[paper comet]

oh ok

thanks 😄

[wind arch]

hmm okay i can confirm my patch works so i guess its an issue with how im trying to get lovely to detect the custom mod directory so far, darn. i think im gonna try forking lovely to get its logging to match the mod-dir location to actually verify its recognizing the directory

[glad osprey]

question, if I have two mod metadatas in one folder would i be able to have two mods or would it break

I would like to make two separate versions of a mod, one only containing balanced content and one containing unbalanced content

wait I could probably just make that a config nvrm

[red flower]

yeah I was gonna suggest that

[glad osprey]

also is it possible to change the mod badge per object?

[red flower]

maybe using this

[clever abyss]

did some more work, got some progress and now i'm onto ranks. i see that this is for one specific ranks but how would i go about making it multiple ranks?

[rapid stag]

is it not possible to combine {s:#} and {C:inactive}?

[glad osprey]

yes that would work

[red flower]

i think it's just { value = '2' }, { value = 'J' }, etc

[clever abyss]

ill try that

[tall wharf]

yes

just put them in the same {} separated by comma

[red flower]

just read it again, this is probably not true lol

[tall wharf]

ok to be fair i should clarify it is possible because yes is a vague answer

-# omg hoshino ai

[clever abyss]

good thing i stopped

[wind arch]

okay this actually helped me exactly how i was hoping, it let me know i was specifying the mods-dir to the wrong location (GamePath as opposed to GamePath/Mods as it shouldve been). i now have a basic test that successfully sets up a modpack instance directory separate from the default balatro directory and loads it

...... now i have to do the hard part of making a functional UI

[red flower]

from what I'm reading you need a debuff_card function

[tall wharf]

i should rename my mod to Aikoyori's Insanity

shenanigans feels a bit weak

[red flower]

Aikoyorinsanity

[clever abyss]

also how do i get different blind sprites to work properly, when i tried it combined the two example sprites into one instead of making it separate

[random sleet]

development resumes tomorrow

i only made 8 jokers today smh

[old bane]

damn i made three consumables today (they had similar effects)

[random sleet]

5 of them are sinful jokers lmao

with placeholder art and possibly placeholder names lmao

[old bane]

oh yeah btw i was meaning to ask you

[random sleet]

ohno

[old bane]

do you know how rarities work for like consumables?

[random sleet]

you have to have a consumabletype set up with rarities

Oddity api in AMM has an implementation of this

[old bane]

i did that part and added rarity to each of my battle cards but it seems to only generate the default consumable (which is a one up since that was the first one i made)

[old bane]

really? is there a github i can follow so i can see how they did it?

[tall wharf]

i don't think I'd ever had to deal with consumable rarity

i just use the shop rate

[old bane]

oh wait you can do that for individual consumables?

[random sleet]

they do have that if you look at their forum post https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1331462654732144721

AMM also has perma mult/xchips/xmult/hchips/hmult/hxchips/hxmult, suit levels, graveyard, aspect card layer, bottles, joker stamps, subtitles on card names

[scarlet spire]

having an odd issue. this joker calculate function loops over all ranks, and subtracts 0.5 xmult from itself for every unique rank. I have an identical setup for suits that works perfectly, but this doesn't. basically for every rank, it loops over the scoring hand and, if it finds that rank, breaks from the inner loop and moves on to the next suit (after subtracting the xmult)
the first two prints fire correctly- but even if it prints 'Found: 8' and 'Looking for: 8', it'll still never pass the check to make sure they're equal

[random sleet]

are you comparing a string and a number

[scarlet spire]

that could be it

how do I avoid this?

[random sleet]

i think get_id() returns a number

card.base.value is the string name

[old bane]

oh wait i see what you mean, but maybe i could make it so shop rate scales with rarity 🤔

[scarlet spire]

ahh okay

[random sleet]

https://github.com/AutumnMood924/AutumnMoodMechanics/blob/42addaf02e7d3a52fc58e1023636439dfc0ed356/api/Oddity.lua#L67

[tender python]

does anyone know a good way to destory suits for a joker effect? I tried to play with the "paranoia" code from paperback but it seems a lot of paperback relies on the altas from that

[minor furnace]

on my way to attempt to understand the entire G.FUNCS.evaluate_play in order to make one singular boss blind effect work

[old bane]

would you want it to be like destroy all of the cards of that suit in the deck or in the hand? cause those are two different things

[tender python]

hand or played, also thank you for replying!

[old bane]

i've literally done something like this before, lmao. Here's an example of the code I used (you don't have to do this word for word, just an example)

if context.destroying_card and context.cardarea == G.play and not context.blueprint then
            local not_heart = false
            for i = 1, #context.full_hand do
                if not context.full_hand[i]:is_suit(card.ability.extra.suit) then
                    not_heart = true
                    break
                end
            end
            if not_heart then
                return context.destroying_card:is_suit(card.ability.extra.suit)
            end
        end

you can do something similar for cards held in hand by replacing G.play with G.hand, though you'd also have to switch context.full_hand for G.hand.cards i think

[tardy wind]

can we take it ?

(begging)

[old bane]

(though destroying_card also functions like context.individual so you can also just target one card destroy_card and test if that care is of the suit)

[tender python]

thank you so much! I'm guessing this would destroy all non-hearts so I would just need to switch that around to fit my needs?

[hasty ravine]

Would hand_name = context.poker_hands, card.ability.extra.ellie_mult = card.abilitiy.extra.ellie_mult + G.GAME.hands[hand_name].level add the current hand level to the mult modifier?

[old bane]

actually, it tests for if there is a card that isn't a heart in the hand and then destroys every heart card in the hand if that is the case, really the code can be simplified down to

if context.destroying_card and context.cardarea == G.play and not context.blueprint then
     return context.destroying_card:is_suit(card.ability.extra.suit)
end

[tender python]

oh ok! thank you 🙂 I'll play around with it!

[old bane]

np!

[hasty ravine]

I'm not sure what the 'unexpected symbol' is here

[hasty ravine]

Ah

Thatll do it

[red flower]

it's the comma after poker_hands

[rapid stag]

doesn't work. it only does the first one in the {} before the comma and ignores everything else

[tall wharf]

{s:0.9,C:inactive}

[hasty ravine]

Okay, so hand_name = context.poker_hands doesn't seem to work. Is there a better way to go about getting the int value of the current hand level?

[rapid stag]

ahhhh no space, thanks

[tall wharf]

-# # -# omg miku

[red flower]

you need context.scoring_name

[hasty ravine]

Ahh

I'll try that

[steady smelt]

i have a custom suit that i've removed from the pools for initial decks, but that removes it from the randomizer pool for erratic deck too. is there a way I can make erratic deck still start with 52 cards but have my suit be in the random suit pool?

[tender python]

I think I might be messing up somewhere, I'm still pretty new (just started today) the joker loads in fine but when it activates it crashes

[red flower]

the syntax is very incorrect, what are you trying to do?

[tender python]

oh? and destroy clubs and spades either held in hand or played when a hand is played

[old bane]

in your return lines, you should just have
return context.destroying_card:is_suit("Spades") or context.destroying_card:is_suit("Clubs")