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native pebble
hardy viper
it does python interface stuff
native pebble
I'll look into it
weary jungle
how do i do.. 2 dialog????
hardy viper
you'll probably have to modify it to be able to have it fetch the data you want
considering it was initially made for tasing and whatnot
tepid crow
how do i do.. 2 dialog????
wdym "2 dialog"?
tepid crow
so 2 different messages?
weary jungle
yes
weary jungle
2 dialogs is too powerful
tepid crow
doesn't the tutorial do that? maybe check the code for that
weary jungle
what if i un dialog the dialog then dialog
faint yacht
...oh yeah, I was meant to ask about the other "effects" for text besides C:, s: and such.
wild patrol
key = "Jinzo",
loc_txt = {
name = 'Jinzo',
text = {
'Binds, and their effects',
'during the round, cannot be activated.',
'Negate all binds on the board.'
},
},
config = { xchips = 2.5 },
rarity = 1,
pos = { x = 6, y = 0 },
atlas = "TCGyugioh",
cost = 5,
unlocked = true,
discovered = true,
pools = { TCG_Yugioh = true },
blueprint_compat = true,
calculate = function(self, card, from_debuff)
if G.GAME.blind and ((not G.GAME.blind.disabled) and (G.GAME.blind:get_type() == 'Boss')) then
G.GAME.blind:disable()
end
end,
})
so I should use calculate for the disable blind function?
I tried adding this card_eval_status_text(context.blueprint_card or self, 'extra', nil, nil, nil, {message = localize('ph_boss_disabled')})
because i wanted the message boss blind disabled to appear
but it's considered a nil value when I addd it
tepid crow
you should be able to just do return { message = ... } instead of all of that
(if you're unlucky you might need a card = card too but my assumption is you don't)
wild patrol
you should be able to just do `return { message = ... }` instead of all of that
attempted to compare a number with nil?
wild patrol
that's the error
snow valve
trying to make lucky cards guaranteed
obviously doing something wrong, I think variable access?
not really sure why it's upset tbh
tepid crow
calculate doesn't magically know what context you're looking for
wild patrol
tight thistle
doesn't the tutorial do that? maybe check the code for that
where is the tutorial anyways?
wild patrol
do you have the full error instead of a single line?
the error
tepid crow
calculate doesn't magically know what context you're looking for
make sure you're checking the right context (use https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/calculate_functions if you have no idea wtf I'm talking about)
tepid crow
where *is* the tutorial anyways?
seems to be spread out over button_callbacks.lua, common_events.lua and state_events.lua
wild patrol
return after the messages?
snow valve
make sure you're checking the right context (use <https://github.com/Steamodded/...
looks like this?
tepid crow
return after the messages?
instead of the card_eval_status_text
tepid crow
Theoretically, yes. Though that context filter still seems a bit broad on first glance and might still crash with the same error
snow valve
did crash with the same error
i want it to check when a card is played
and see if the card is lucky
then guarantee probabilities (set to 1)
tepid crow
pretty sure that exact context is documented in the link from earlier
tepid crow
like I said, too broad
snow valve
oh okay
so how am I supposed to write it?
legitimately brand new sorry lol, me and a buddy "learned" lua last night by brute forcing custom jokers until 8am last night lol
wild patrol
return ({message = localize('jinzo_boss_disabled')})
G.GAME.blind:disable()```like this because it returns an error that need } to close
tepid crow
so how am I supposed to write it?
great question actually
this joker might be a bit too advanced tbh
snow valve
really? 😭
tepid crow
yeah, because instead of applying a new effect
snow valve
i assumed the precedent already existed and I'm just doing it wrong no?
snow valve
well kind of
i took code precedent from Oops all 6's
to modify probability
but the effect should apply the same way right?
snow valve
and jokers like golden ticket check if a card is gold
tepid crow
so then you need to be real careful when you set-unset it
snow valve
ngl I know it's a bad idea to use the global variable and I was just too lazy to find specifically the lucky modifier in the code
tepid crow
instead I'd take a look at how the lucky card is implemented and throw a check for your joker in there
lot less messy
snow valve
basically all i want my code to do is:
Step 1 (golden ticket precedent): check if card is lucky
Step 2 (oops all 6's precedent): manipulate probability
snow valve
instead I'd take a look at how the lucky card is implemented and throw a check f...
just put it in the base code?
If I want the mod to be a separate file don't I have to do it locally?
tepid crow
``` if G.GAME.blind and ((not G.GAME.blind.disabled) and (G.GAME.blind:ge...
yeah that's gonna error because you return and then still have statements
do you know what return does?
tepid crow
just put it in the base code?
You'd either lovely patch your way in there or use a hook. Which is why I said this joker is probably a bit advanced right now
tepid crow
you're not adding +$4 (which can be done at basically any point, at any time) when gold cards are scored, you'd be modifying how lucky cards work internally
a really easy way would be to just give the lucky card bonus and let the lucky card roll anyway
snow valve
a really easy way would be to just give the lucky card bonus and let the lucky c...
I did a kind of similar joker with wheel of fortune where we just made the wheel basically impossible to hit and then separately applied the effects the wheel would be doing
is that the best way?
tepid crow
but now the message is too fast lol
"too fast"?
tepid crow
I did a kind of similar joker with wheel of fortune where we just made the wheel...
interesting, how'd you do that? set the wheel's probability to 0?
snow valve
well the probability in this game is a little hard to mess with
because everything is expressed as 1 / (value)
and then each odd in the game has (value)
tepid crow
yea
snow valve
so wheel is expressed as 1 / (value) and (value) is 4
tepid crow
.extra yes
snow valve
so while the joker is active we set value to like 2 billion
then when sold reset it
but i cant find the extra value for luckies lol
m_lucky = {max = 500, order = 9, name = "Lucky Card", set = "Enhanced", pos = {x=4,y=1}, effect = "Lucky Card", label = "Lucky Card", config = {mult=20, p_dollars = 20}},
they say this
tepid crow
yeah theoretically would work for luckies too (though it seems like a tad hacky approach)
snow valve
yeah theoretically would work for luckies too (though it seems like a tad hacky ...
super hacky
tepid crow
luckies don't have that (value) stored internally though
wild patrol
if G.GAME.blind and ((not G.GAME.blind.disabled) and (G.GAME.blind:get_type() == 'Boss')) then
return ({message = localize('jinzo_boss_disabled')})
end
G.GAME.blind:disable()
end,```
so this works but the disable blind doesn't work
but this crashes the game?
```calculate = function(self, card, from_debuff)
if G.GAME.blind and ((not G.GAME.blind.disabled) and (G.GAME.blind:get_type() == 'Boss')) then
return ({message = localize('jinzo_boss_disabled')})
G.GAME.blind:disable()
end
end,```Swap the return and disable lines around (regarding your 2nd codeblock). You can't return then do stuff
tepid crow
how would I go about doing that for luckies?
If you really want to do this, you'll need to find where those values are actually stored (just search all files for "lucky") and either hook or lovely patch into those functions
snow valve
for wheel I set the value to 2 billion because it's close to a 0% chance of triggering, and I needed to natively apply the effects of wheel rather than letting the wheel apply them itself at 100% chance to hit, because wheel effects don't stack and the point of the joker is that it can stack the editions. For this joker, the lucky triggers can stack as much as they want, so I figured it would be a lot easier to just set the probability to 1 so it always triggers natively instead of doing +20 mult and +20 dollars myself
this is how I handled the wheel
tepid crow
oh it stores it on the shiny joker? interesting
snow valve
yeah
I found where luckies are handled
and there is no varibale to modify I think
just math built in to the function
so I'm not sure how I do it lol
tepid crow
like I said, hook or lovely patch the function
snow valve
idk how to do those so I'm trying to see if there's som eroundabout way I can do it natively
but I'll learn if necessary lol
wild patrol
"too fast"?
yeah the text just sorta comes in before u can even read it
wrong video
the correct one
tepid crow
but I'll learn if necessary lol
[hooking](#⚙・modding-general message), lovely patching
gaunt thistle
ew discord lets you do that with links? cursed
lovely patching is maybe the most "native" way to do it?
tepid crow
🪄
snow valve
oh it stores it on the shiny joker? interesting
shiny little guy
snow valve
[hooking](https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1209506360987877408/1...
thank you
tepid crow
you can use delay = <number> to hold the message for longer - I suggest trying a delay of around ~1.5?
tepid crow
ew discord lets you do that with links? cursed
also do you just show up whenever I say the word "lovely patching"?
wild patrol
return ({delay = 1.5, message = localize('jinzo_boss_disabled')})
gonna assuming delay goes in with the message
tepid crow
yup
snow valve
Do i need any imports or anything for lovely patching or if I have lovely I can just do that code in my mod file?
wild patrol
yup
now the message doesn't appear and the disable blinds doesn't work?
but the game doesn't crash
tepid crow
Do i need any imports or anything for lovely patching or if I have lovely I can ...
You need a lovely.toml. Check out some other mods that use lovely to see some more examples
snow valve
I'm so cooked
tepid crow
like I said, not really starter friendly
tepid crow
now the message doesn't appear and the disable blinds doesn't work?
what's your current code looking like?
gaunt thistle
also do you just show up whenever I say the word "lovely patching"?
I had the channel open in the background
I mainly just show up when you're talking though
wild patrol
what's your current code looking like?
if G.GAME.blind and ((not G.GAME.blind.disabled) and (G.GAME.blind:get_type() == 'Boss')) then
G.GAME.blind:disable()
return ({delay = 1.5, message = localize('jinzo_boss_disabled')})
end
end,```okay, so the easiest way I can interpret this is that I need two very simple injections, one that finds the lucky calculation in the mult function and replaces "probability/5" with "probability/1", and another that finds the lucky calculation in the money function and replaces "probability/15" with "probability/1"
and then it should work?
tepid crow
well I wouldn't replace it with probability/1 since then it'll always happen (even if you don't have the joker)
snow valve
can't I just trigger those injections on "add_to_deck"
and revert them on "remove_from_deck"
then it's just a static guarantee while I have the joker
wild patrol
now the blind disable works but text doesn't appear?
tepid crow
no, those lovely injections either exist or don't
wild patrol
but i haven't change the code yet
snow valve
no, those lovely injections either exist or don't
oh you can't use them dynamically?
so then maybe I just make the luckies always fail and add the 20 mult and dollars myself?
hmm
but then theyre messed even when i dont have the joker
tepid crow
``` calculate = function(self, card, from_debuff)
if G.GAME.blind and...
this code works for me 🤷♂️
snow valve
I have a theory
wild patrol
sometimers the code works sometimes it doesn't
snow valve
I do the above injections but instead of having them replace 5 and 15 with 1, I just implement my own random function, and my function checks whether or not you have this joker, and if you do it guarantees probability, and if you don't it uses 5 and 15 like normal
that's probably the best way to do it?
sharp blade
just used this to make a wee joker-sized joker and it fixed all my problems
it's a jank as hell solution but it's also really funny
sharp blade
whoops sorry for ping
snow valve
okay so im editing a toml file
sharp blade
finally a use-case for `name`
wonder if I could do the same thing with square/half joker
snow valve
target is the file i need to change
pattern is the words i want to replace
position is where i want to inject
payload is the replacement text
that's all right?
sharp blade
that's all right?
I think so
here's a good example from smods itself:
[[patches]] [patches.pattern] target = "card.lua" pattern = ''' if center.name == "Wee Joker" and (center.discovered or self.bypass_discovery_center) then H = H*0.7 W = W*0.7 self.T.h = H self.T.w = W end ''' position = "after" payload = ''' if center.display_size and center.display_size.h and (center.discovered or self.bypass_discovery_center) then H = H*(center.display_size.h/95) self.T.h = H elseif center.pixel_size and center.pixel_size.h and (center.discovered or self.bypass_discovery_center) then H = H*(center.pixel_size.h/95) self.T.h = H end if center.display_size and center.display_size.w and (center.discovered or self.bypass_discovery_center) then W = W*(center.display_size.w/71) self.T.w = W elseif center.pixel_size and center.pixel_size.w and (center.discovered or self.bypass_discovery_center) then W = W*(center.pixel_size.w/71) self.T.w = W end ''' match_indent = true
snow valve
here's a good example from smods itself:
yeah I took a file from the smods repo lol
just gonna edit it and use it as boilerplate
normal crest
Yes target is card.lua
sharp blade
nice
normal crest
It really isn't, it's just specifying where you want your code to be
snow valve
i assume this refers to something specific in the repo
and has nothing to dowith my code?
snow valve
Yeah don't touch that
i can just delete that right?
normal crest
You need that
snow valve
And I think it's not recommended to use position = "at"
that's just what they were using in the smods file I downloaded
tepid crow
wonder if I could do the same thing with square/half joker
with a bit of luck, yeah
snow valve
doesn't that just replace it at the position you evacuated?
snow valve
You need that
what do these do sorry?
tepid crow
those [[]] tell lovely what type of patch it is
snow valve
okay cool
and dump lua and priority
priority i assume doesnt matter for me if this is my only injection
so i can just make that 0?
tepid crow
I suggest setting it to 0
normal crest
dump lua will put your code in the lovely dump under mods/lovely/dump
So you can see the result of your patches
snow valve
oh sure
normal crest
Priority does matter, your mod isn't the only one doing patches
Leaving it at 0 is fine tho
snow valve
okay
normal crest
doesn't that just replace it at the position you evacuated?
And yeah, replacing code isn't a good idea, you might break other mods that try to target that part of the code
If you're not worried about that then go ahead
snow valve
i am using vanilla balatro with smods and my custom jokers exclusively
is it fine for that?
normal crest
If your mod is meant to be used without any others then you don't have to worry
also to look at the game's source I recommend looking at the lovely/dump instead of the extracted exe
Since the dump includes the patches steamodded does
sturdy compass
Is it possible to take ownership of PokerHands?
snow valve
do you see any problems with this or should this work?
emme_check will get +1 upon buyingthe joker
and -1 when it leaves
everything looks good so far
mild night
would anyone be willing to work on a little pet project of mine with me? I have a few ideas I'd like to implement into a QoL/Ideas mod but I'm unfamiliar with modding
tepid crow
lua has global?
normal crest
It does not
tepid crow
that's what I thought lmao
gaunt thistle
that's a good start
snow valve
do I just leave out local then?
tepid crow
yeah
snow valve
defining the variable defaults to global?
normal crest
Yeah the default is global
tepid crow
would anyone be willing to work on a little pet project of mine with me? I have ...
might be a good fit for #1210670452716994600?
normal crest
so exact same image but delete "global "
Run your game and you'll find out, also look at the dump to see the results
tepid crow
I should start saying "run the code and find out" more often
normal crest
Its just true
snow valve
Run your game and you'll find out, also look at the dump to see the results
I haven't written the rest of the code for my joker yet lol
normal crest
Also when comparing use ==, not =
And you might want to use multiline strings in your toml instead, aka """ instead of "
tepid crow
top level of your mod
normal crest
either a lovely.toml file in your mod folder, or under your mod/lovely/whatever.toml
snow valve
Also when comparing use ==, not =
okay that one was actually just me being a dumbass ngl
tepid crow
either a lovely.toml file in your mod folder, or under your mod/lovely/whatever....
^
this is also on the readme btw https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector?tab=readme-ov-file#patch-files
sturdy compass
Is it possible to take ownership of PokerHands?
Bumpin' this. I really don't wanna patch into eval_functions in smods but if I have to I can
tepid crow
Bumpin' this. I really don't wanna patch into eval_functions in smods but if I h...
did you.. try to take ownership?
snow valve
^
this is also on the readme btw <https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injec...
ngl I have troubles with reading comprehension sometimes (dumb and autistic), and I wasn't exactly sure where it meant whenI read it
still not exactly sure
sometimes my brain just needs to see a thing and be like, "you mean right here? okay cool."
normal crest
Lovely will load all toml files under mod/lovely
sturdy compass
I haven't because I'm lost on what the syntax is, though now I think my brain is starting to work it out
normal crest
Or a single toml file at mod/lovely.toml, mod here being your mod name
tepid crow
sometimes my brain just needs to see a thing and be like, "you mean right here? ...
Examples are always good haha. And the lovely readme definitely isn't the easiest to understand
normal crest
Mods/your mod/lovely/blahblahblah.toml
tepid crow
top level of your mod
normal crest
Or Mods/your mod/lovely.toml
tepid crow
Balatro/Mods/Akrones-mod/lovely.toml or Balatro/Mods/Akrones-mod/lovely/<whatever>.toml
snow valve
oh I just have lovely in my game files but I also need to put it in my mod specifically you mean?
normal crest
`Balatro/Mods/Akrones-mod/lovely.toml` or `Balatro/Mods/Akrones-mod/lovely/<what...
Just pick one of these
Not both, only one
snow valve
and does it need to be named anything specific? it's currently nmed lovely.toml
normal crest
What's your mod folder here
sturdy compass
So I'm trying to change how Four of a Kind works, is this all the evaluate function that I would be taking over be?
snow valve
im in my mod folder
those are just all my different jokers and crap
right here then?
normal crest
That's not your mod folder
normal crest
Yes this is correct
snow valve
oh you mean like
yeah okay I see
thank you
my specific mod
thoguht you meant my folder for mods
normal crest
Yeah each folder in Balatro/Mods is a different mod
snow valve
yeah gotcha
tepid crow
So I'm trying to change how Four of a Kind works, is this all the evaluate funct...
any reason you're trying to change 4oak instead of adding a new hand? 👀
sturdy compass
Yes, here's the functionality I'm after
sturdy compass
Yeah kinda
I know how I want to do it, I just wanna make sure I'm changing the right things
normal crest
you will definitely have to patch/hook into whatever function decides what hand is played
maybe get_poker_hand_info, I think it's called
But I'm not sure
snow valve
okay well the game is no longer crashing when I play a card however it didn't give me any mult
my suspicion is that it's not crashing because I deleted my old function that was a problem, and the injection just didn't work
normal crest
To see if your injection worked look at the dump
tepid crow
So I'm trying to change how Four of a Kind works, is this all the evaluate funct...
should double check if there aren't any other places where the poker hand gets calculated, but this will probably be one of them (and if you're lucky the only one haha)
normal crest
Mods/lovely/dump/card.lua
normal crest
Then your pattern is wrong
snow valve
okay yeah it did not modify
normal crest
Then your pattern is not correct
normal crest
pattern = """
function.....
"""
snow valve
okay
sturdy compass
Sweeeeeeet
normal crest
Sweeeeeeet
What'd you modify?
tepid crow
niiice
sturdy compass
So I'm trying to change how Four of a Kind works, is this all the evaluate funct...
this lol
tepid crow
cool idea for a joker
snow valve
Use multi line strings
still didnt work :(
sadge
oh wait
i should probably use multiline for the payload too huh
my dumb ass
dang still didnt work
normal crest
Could you send your entire toml file
snow valve
yep
okay wait I think I fixed the insertion
now I need to fix the code I'm inserting
normal crest
nice, good luck
also what you're trying to do does not need a lovely patch
could be done with a hook
Let me write an example
snow valve
idk how to do that either lolol
this is te current problem
i think im an idiot and im missing really obvious syntax
sturdy compass
Sweeeeeeet
That's even better. Let's go
normal crest
remove the "end" above "else"
also this is what I meant by a hook
local get_chip_mult_ref = Card.get_chip_mult
function Card.get_chip_mult(self)
if Emme_check == 0 then
return get_chip_mult_ref(self)
elseif Emme_check == 1 then
-- your code
else
-- your code
end
end
oh i was redundant with the return
snow valve
also this is what I meant by a hook
does this just intercept a function before it happens?
normal crest
this is modifying the original function
first it stores a reference to the old function, to not lose it
then you redefine it, adding whatever code you need, and at some point you call the reference you saved to ensure that the original code remains there
and you can add that hook anywhere in your code, wherever you need it
normal crest
yeah, doesn't hurt to learn how lovely patches work tho
you just gotta know in what scenario to use a hook or a lovely patch
in this case your patch is just wrapping around the original code, not adding anything between the original, so you can just use a hook
snow valve
what was the function you said I could use instead of emmecheck?
i think my current problem is that emmecheck is redefining itself as 0 before it runs the mult function'
just a function to see if i own a joker
snow valve
so in this case it's "
if SMODS.find_card(Emme) == True then...."
or how do I implement that
tepid crow
check https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Utility for the docs on how to use that function
snow valve
and do I include the single quotes with the key?
dusk shoal
I had a mod idea, not really coding anything yet but I really like it, yet it hinges on one little thing:
Is there a way to check, for a joker, what deck you’re using?
snow valve
i.e. my key is 'emme_joker'
SMODS.find_card('emme_joker')
tepid crow
i.e. my key is 'emme_joker'
SMODS.find_card('emme_joker')
SMODS.find_card('j_[your modprefix]_emme_joker')
tepid crow
pretty sure that's balatro saying "you ran out of memory"
tepid crow
yeah, but the check == false doesn't seem right
snow valve
oh i assumed it returned a bool
tepid crow
The docs! The magical docs!
tepid crow
I think you just have to check if the table is empty or not
snow valve
oh cool
ngl I do not know how to write that
would you mind showing me how to check that?
tepid crow
if it's a numbered array you can do #array to check it's length
(with numbered array I mean {[1] = "a", [2] = "text", etc})
tepid crow
array was an example name
snow valve
ohhhh
right I learned this syntax earlier for cards in hand
if #SMODS.find_card('j_FRND_Emme_Joker') >= 1 then
like that?
normal crest
Is there a way to check, for a joker, what deck you’re using?
yes
tepid crow
if #SMODS.find_card('j_FRND_Emme_Joker') >= 1 then
seems reasonable to me
snow valve
I pray man damn
tepid crow
okay sick ! how do you do that lol
G.GAME.selected_back should do it
dusk shoal
i'll need you to elaborate if you dont mind
is it like, "if G.GAME.selected_back == red_deck then;" ?
i dunno the exact in game terms for each deck
tepid crow
just print it out and you should be able to see what you want to check
(I don't actually know from the top of my head)
dusk shoal
im still a little confused
like are you saying to
ahem
create a joker and make it so the joker prints whatever G.GAME.selected_back is?
and then that tells me
tepid crow
sendDebugMessage(tprint(G.GAME.selected_back), "skybox")
tepid crow
`sendDebugMessage(tprint(G.GAME.selected_back), "skybox")`
though yeah you might want to put that in a joker's calculate
snow valve
presumably that means I messed something up here
tepid crow
pretty sure this lovely patch isn't the thing giving you a memory error 🤔
dusk shoal
also is skybox supposed to be whatever the mod's key is? or literally just whatever lol
tepid crow
also is skybox supposed to be whatever the mod's key is? or literally just whate...
the name of the logger, otherwise you get a default "default" or smth
dusk shoal
you might need to explain it to me like im 5 lol
tepid crow
you might need to explain it to me like im 5 lol
the difference between
INFO - [G] 2025-01-19 18:57:26 :: DEBUG :: Skybox :: Message
INFO - [G] 2025-01-19 18:57:26 :: DEBUG :: DefaultLogger :: Message
you misunderstand my misunderstanding, i mean explain EVERYTHING like im 5 😭
im admittedly not the best coder
tepid crow
`sendDebugMessage(tprint(G.GAME.selected_back), "skybox")`
you want me to explain this entire message?
dusk shoal
yes please
snow valve
this is all of the code in my mod
very small joker code in main.lua
and then the lovely patch
really not sure why it's having a memory error lol
tepid crow
yes please
G.GAME.selected_backis a Lua table (almost everything in lua is either a table, a string or a number)tprint()turns a table into a string, so instead of printingtable: 0x55e44c737da0(how could this possibly be the default Lua wtf went wrong in development), you get a nice{ key = value, etc }sendDebugMessageallows you to send a string to the console- the first argument was the table, aka the current deck
- the second argument is by what name it'll appear in console; it's just good practice to set this to your mod's name or similar
see https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Logging and https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Utility for some actual docs
tepid crow
really not sure why it's having a memory error lol
🤷♂️
did you try restarting your computer yet?
wild patrol
Dumb question can we use the pop up box that lovely uses
When u click the game during the crash log
I got a funny idea
tepid crow
@gaunt thistle would be the one to ask about that 🙃
gaunt thistle
Dumb question can we use the pop up box that lovely uses
you can use love2d's dialog box for that. it's how the crash card works in Cryptid
it's a native window so it'll look identical
wild patrol
was gonna add this card
and whe u lost a boss blind
the pop up box would come up say youn lost ur soul crash the game
tight thistle
anyone know where the source code for the event manager is? i want to know why the hell its working so badly with eachother
snow valve
if I want to do two patches do they need to share a folder or both be loose in the mods folder
alternatively I could also do two patches in one file right?
iron iron
damn im gonna have to learn how to mod balatro
gaunt thistle
you absolutely should
gaunt thistle
alternatively I could also do two patches in one file right?
you can have as many patches as you want in a file. splitting patches up into separate files is generally good for organization, but it's not a requirement
iron iron
damn im gonna have to learn how to mod balatro
i made these a while ago and someone said i should mod them in
gaunt thistle
anyone know where the source code for the event manager is? i want to know why t...
off the top of my head the bulk of it is in engine/event.lua
iron iron
wait i dont have balatro on steam can i even do this 😭
nova finch
How would I make a joker trigger when only when a certain card of the played hand is scored (e.g. first scored card, second scored card, etc.)
random sleet
game boylatro
tight thistle
off the top of my head the bulk of it is in `engine/event.lua`
thanks!
iron iron
How would I make a joker trigger when only when a certain card of the played han...
is it possible to look at something like hanging chad and determine
nova otter
Hello, I want to get started making mods for Balatro. Where would be a good place to start? Are there any guides I could follow?
tight thistle
anyone know where the source code for the event manager is? i want to know why t...
nope, cant get any info on why it breaks
tiny shale
heyo everybody, I am starting to mod and I wonder, what is the resolution of the joker card?
violet void
heyo everybody, I am starting to mod and I wonder, what is the resolution of the...
71x95
tiny shale
thankies!
slender island
How do i create a texture pack through steammodded? I have textures but i don't understand what i should put in lua file
iron iron
How do i create a texture pack through steammodded? I have textures but i don't ...
yes i need to know this too
violet void
Do Vouchers really have a calculate function?
Im thinking of turning a Joker I have into a voucher and if thats the case it'll be quite easy
crisp coral
newly added
violet void
21 Jan, I gotta update my version 😢
random sleet
you can also access the voucher cardarea, G.vouchers
wild patrol
You think a multi based on how many cards u have in your hand would work?
violet void
high card moment
frosty dock
7
violet void
Before it becomes too many
depends on the exact effect of the joker
wild patrol
I'm basically just slapping yugioh card effects into balatro with a balatro equvelant
so some cards probably gonna have better effects than others
random sleet
each card held in hand gives +1000 chips
wild patrol
I wonder if it's possible to make cards spawn only during an endless run
wild patrol
each card held in hand gives +1000 chips
because this sounds funny as fuck
iron iron
each card held in hand gives +1000 chips
ok but what if i have 5 hand size and want to play flush fives
kinda underpowered imo
wild patrol
I could do a 3rd of 1000
frosty dock
high card supremacy
wild patrol
maybe 333 per card?
so if u want it to be super broken gotta pare it with a card that repeats the effect
iron iron
h*gh c*rd brainrot
random sleet
slifer as a legendary that gives +1000 chips per card in hand seems aight
wild patrol
Would 1000 per card pretty much guarantee you win all 8 antes?
iron iron
no because you need mult smh
iron iron
what if you run into a seed whre you only have chips
wild patrol
If u paired this with Jinzo you'd pretty much win
Jinzo disables boss blinds
Not sure how to balance it then lol
other than being a endless only card
or a card with such a low change of spawning
you'd never really see it unless u got more luck than a full odds shiny pokemon
random sleet
me when legendary is sitting right there
wild patrol
What is a legendary spawn rate?
wild patrol
hmmm
ok idea
a card where u have to destroy 5 joker cards
🤔
So you'd have to have 5 cards already bought and get lucky to get the summoning card to get slifer
if you're gonna get a broken card might as well have to put some effort into it
I also have the other two cards
so I could just combine it into a 1/3 dice roll card of what u get is what u get
with winged dragon of raw I can easily used sphere mode
Have to wait until you beat boss blind to Turn it into Ra and requires u to destroy 3 random jokers to get this card into ur joker zone
solar eagle
how does one lock a joker? like how the pair/trio/family/tribe require you to win a run without playing their respective hands
i looked at game.lua and found
unlock_condition = { type = "win_no_hand", extra = "TWT_polycule" },```
but they do not workwhere did you find start_locked? that doesn't exist
it's unlocked = false
frosty dock
frosty dock
what version of balatro would that be
frosty dock
according to what
that's not a version that exists
i would assume it has to be some 1.0.0 version though, 1.0.1f also doesn't have it
solar eagle
according to what
CFBundleVersionString the info.plist
got it from apple arcade+ since its easier to browse
frosty dock
that... makes more sense
i can't tell if you if it does anything there, but it doesn't exist on the steam version
and even then unlocked = false is the important part
solar eagle
yea figured that out
how do you then display the unlock message?
and/or set the condition if its custom
frosty dock
how do you then display the unlock message?
solar eagle
ooooh
frosty dock
and/or set the condition if its custom
define a check_for_unlock function on the joker
merry raven
El gato
frosty dock
you should know that modding balatro is based almost exclusively around the steam version, so the arcade version can and will have issues
solar eagle
im not modding the arcade version
i just have a copy and its easier to browse the src
ty!
frosty dock
just be aware that you'll keep running into code differences like this
solar eagle
so far there havent been any issues with doing so aside from start_locked which we just discovered
violet void
Is there a way to lock back a card without having to change the key?
I guess the save data
spring lantern
what's the right way to copy a joker's ability? rn all im doing is softlocking the game without even copying anything 😭
im talking blueprint type behavior
violet void
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1327494105168875592
The OP of that thread did something like that just recently with Mimic Joker
Might be able to read their code
atomic edge
can i separate my code into multiple lua files? because i see i need to name one main in a json file
and i dont know how to execute the other files
frosty dock
can i separate my code into multiple lua files? because i see i need to name one...
yes
-# it's in the docs
assert(SMODS.load_file('path/to/file.lua'))()
maiden phoenix
I thought assert wasn't necessary anymore
frosty dock
sure it's not "necessary", it just makes crash logs completely useless when you don't use it
sick sparrow
made the old transparency method
maiden phoenix
sure it's not "necessary", it just makes crash logs completely useless when you ...
Oh ok
sick sparrow
made the old transparency method
half of pixels are rendered as of alpha blending isn't fast enough
frosty dock
i should specify, crash logs from failing to load the file
atomic edge
`assert(SMODS.load_file('path/to/file.lua'))()`
im sorry i may sound dumb but i put this line into my main file which is reference in the json?
frosty dock
yes
atomic edge
thanks
wooden badge
can seals access the before/after contexts? - wondering if it's possible to have a sealed card's effect take place after the hand in which it is played
violet void
can seals access the before/after contexts? - wondering if it's possible to have...
Yes
wooden badge
currently can only get it to activate when it's scored, through 'calculate' obviously
violet void
with new calc
violet void
I think any version of new-calc
wooden badge
ok cheers, i'm on old-calc
should probably update and get used to the new quirks and such
just a github jobby?
violet void
it has lots of improvements
wooden badge
ok cool, will it be labeled 'new-calc' or is it just the most recent commit on the main smods repo?
violet void
most recent one will work
wooden badge
ok great thanks
i seem to remember a reason I switched to old-calc because something was bugged (annoyingly can't remember exactly what) so I assume that's fixed now
atomic edge
im looking at a code from another mod and he uses self.config.type == 'something' but that something is never used again / i cant find it, any thoughts?
wintry solar
which mod?
wooden badge
im looking at a code from another mod and he uses self.config.type == 'something...
looks like placeholder/debug script they never removed?
unless it's actually in something used?
wooden badge
@violet void imagine me spending all night trying to figure how to activate the damn seal after the hand and coming up short, only to not have updated the c***. smh
minor gyro
how do I check for modded jokers?
limpid flint
how do I check for modded jokers?
what do you mean by "check"
minor gyro
what do you mean by "check"
local negative_joker_count = 0
for _, v in ipairs(G.jokers.cards) do
if v.edition and v.edition.key == 'e_negative' then
negative_joker_count = negative_joker_count + 1
end
end
here i check for negative jokers
wooden badge
how do I check for modded jokers?
I assume you mean ones you've created yourself? In which case you can use #find_joker('your joker's key') > 0 to check for that specific joker in the cardarea
minor gyro
I assume you mean ones you've created yourself? In which case you can use #find_...
yeah, I thought of that... But is there a "mod key"? or something like that?
violet void
I assume you mean ones you've created yourself? In which case you can use #find_...
wasnt it SMODS.find_card()?
violet void
<@267014823315898368> imagine me spending all night trying to figure how to acti...
relatable
limpid flint
yeah, I thought of that... But is there a "mod key"? or something like that?
you want to know a certain card's full key?
frosty dock
wasnt it SMODS.find_card()?
yeah you should use SMODS.find_card
find_joker uses names
minor gyro
you want to know a certain card's full key?
I want to check for how many modded jokers are there. Preferably my jokers
frosty dock
yeah, I thought of that... But is there a "mod key"? or something like that?
v.config.center.mod gives you the mod object the joker belongs to, if any
(v.config.center.mod or {}).id would give you the corresponding mod ID if the mod exists
limpid flint
-# I'll leave this to the professionals
minor gyro
-# I'll leave this to the professionals
lmao
frosty dock
-# time to be unprofessional
wooden badge
shucks, i guess I'll replace my find_joker calls with find_card then
frosty dock
you might be under the impression that it works with keys, but that's because smods defaults names to keys for some reason i don't remember
minor gyro
holy shit I forgot about .json
frosty dock
i think it was 0.9.8 compat
it may be removed when 0.9.8 compat is, and it's inconsistent with how it works for vanilla jokers vs. modded
wooden badge
is the logic the ssame as find_joker? Like just pass as an argument the key I'm looking for @frosty dock
I can just omit the second arg most of the time
frosty dock
yeah it's a drop-in replacement for find_joker
wooden badge
ok epic thanks
frosty dock
second arg isn't needed unless you have a reason for looking for debuffed versions of the card
wooden badge
sorry is it a '==' check against the respective key instead, because I'm using #find_joker() > 0 atm to check if the table regarding that joker is not empty essentially
so if SMODS.find_card() == _my key_ then?
violet void
its the same youve been using the other
frosty dock
no it works exactly the same way
wooden badge
oh ok literally just pick up and replace the words find_joker
frosty dock
if #SMODS.find_card('j_mod_yourkey') > 0 then is one way to check
wooden badge
ok great thanks
frosty dock
I prefer if next(SMODS.find_card('j_mod_yourkey')) then personally but either works
wooden badge
yeah the > 0 feels a bit hacky
violet void
I prefer `if next(SMODS.find_card('j_mod_yourkey')) then` personally but either ...
Ill use this now
wooden badge
that's more succinct, just a straight boolean to return
frosty dock
mostly because it always accurately reports if the table is non-empty instead of just checking numeric keys
it's not a bool, really it's just the "next element" of some sort
which means it's nil/falsy iff there is no element
frosty dock
unless you're dealing with a table of bools i guess, in which case you'd have to check ~= nil
wooden badge
oh it's a lua intrinsic
violet void
kinda wish lua considered empty tables falsy
royal ridge
i think lua should consider "0" falsy 😃
wooden badge
wouldnt next(emptytable) return falsy? (nil to be specific) @violet void
frosty dock
wouldnt next(_emptytable_) return falsy? (nil to be specific) <@2670148233158983...
yes
frosty dock
i think lua should consider "0" falsy 😃
the string 0....?
violet void
wouldnt next(_emptytable_) return falsy? (nil to be specific) <@2670148233158983...
I mean simply typing if SMODS.find_card() then doesnt work and I wish it did
royal ridge
the string 0....?
wooden badge
oh right, just a concision thing
frosty dock
<:balatrojoker:1139524811421405224>
this isn't js
minor gyro
"Gains {C:white,X:mult}2X multiplier",
Idk why this happens, but it does. With multiple jokers.
violet void
shouldnt you close the brackets
wooden badge
or sorry after the 2x if you want the multiplier out of it
wintry solar
it strips spaces too fyi
minor gyro
it happens here too... I see them braces
minor gyro
it strips spaces too fyi
oh...
wooden badge
generally you only want the numerical text to be altered by the colours
so just enclose the number with the second brace pair
frosty dock
fyi there isn't really "closing" these and they don't work in pairs
{} just resets the modifiers to null
minor gyro
`{}` just resets the modifiers to null
yh Ik
atomic edge
is there a tutorial on how i could make a new area like the consumeable area for example
frosty dock
no but multiple mods do it
violet void
no but multiple mods do it
do you know which ones
atomic edge
betmma mods has it but its just so complicated for me and i cant seem to get it working haha
frosty dock
reverie also has a custom area
at some point you just run out of space to not overlap which is kind of a problem
maiden phoenix
Gotta make an area that takes the whole screen
lethal stratus
trying to make this without errors like these
wintry solar
all the basic context checks are literally written out
wintry solar
just out this first
lethal stratus
most of those are implied no?
wintry solar
the check at the top
lethal stratus
oh doy
wintry solar
it set out as "here's a check you can use to get this context" and "heres what the context contains"
minor gyro
`(v.config.center.mod or {}).id` would give you the corresponding mod ID if the ...
sooo.
for _, v in ipairs(G.jokers.cards or {}) do
if (v.config.center.mod or {}).id == 'phasmo_cards' then
modded_jokercount = modded_jokercount + 1
end
end
?
lethal stratus
whats the variable for card value?
wintry solar
get_id() is correct for value
storm kraken
evaluate = function(parts, hand)
if next(parts._flush, parts._high_card) then
local fibaflush = true
local _flushed = SMODS.merge_lists(parts._flush, parts._high_card)
for j = 1, #_flushed do
local rank = SMODS.Ranks[_flushed[j].base.value]
fibaflush = _flushed and (rank.key == 'A' or rank.key == '2' or rank.key == '3' or rank.key == '5' or rank.key == '8')
end
if fibaflush then return {_flushed} end
end
end,
trying to make a custom hand that checks for an ace, 2, 3, 5, 8 flush but obviously as you see here the code doesnt work because you only need two of the 5 cards to make the hand activate
how would i make it check if all the cards are present in the scored hand 
frosty dock
sooo.
```lua
for _, v in ipairs(G.jokers.cards or {}) do
if (v.co...
yeah looks good
lethal stratus
the card is not triggering now
wintry solar
show code now
frosty dock
xmult = card.ability.extra.Xmult and remove the message parts
wintry solar
return {
xmult = card.ability.extra.Xmult
}```does that pop up the X3 on screen?
frosty dock
yes
maiden phoenix
if you're running old calc, only `x_mult` will actually work
(Shoutout for allowing xmult btw ❤️ )
wintry solar
ah the silly quirks of old calc
lethal stratus
how do i update?
frosty dock
unless you know anything about git, just delete the smods folder you have and redownload ^
lethal stratus
do i replace the lua?
i already downloaded the most recent but the lua inside my git mod didn't change
because of course it didnt thats not how computers work
alright it completely works now
frosty dock
do i replace the lua?
that's not steamodded
frosty dock
that's what you replace
storm kraken
where can you find the uhh
things for poker hands in the game files
-# like the things that define what cards they need
frosty dock
where can you find the uhh
things for poker hands in the game files
-# like the ...
the functions used here (get_X_same, get_flush, get_straight, get_highest)
get_straight is overridden by smods
minor gyro
yeah looks good
welp is not working lmao
SMODS.Joker {
key = 'revenant_jk',
atlas = 'Jokers',
loc_txt = {
name = "Revenant",
text = {
"Gains {X:mult,C:white}#2#X{} for",
"each {C:purple}modded joker{}",
"in your hand.",
"{C:inactive}(Currently: #1#{})"
}
},
loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
return { vars = { card.ability.extra.Xmult, card.ability.extra.Xmult_mod } }
end,
config = { extra = { Xmult = 0, Xmult_mod = 3 } },
rarity = 2,
pos = { x = 7, y = 0 },
cost = 5,
calculate = function(self, card, context)
if context.joker_main then
local modded_jokercount = 0
for _, v in ipairs(G.jokers.cards or {}) do
if (v.config.center.mod or {}).id == 'phasmo_cards' then
modded_jokercount = modded_jokercount + 1
end
end
return {
Xmult = modded_jokercount * card.ability.extra.Xmult_mod
}
end
end
}
```if u want to take a look at the whole codewhat smods version?
storm kraken
the functions used here (`get_X_same`, `get_flush`, `get_straight`, `get_highest...
what does get_X_same do 😭
frosty dock
what does get_X_same do 😭
gets tuples of X cards of the same rank, at least that's the base game version
the smods patched version gets X or more
lethal stratus
i dont know how to make this calculate function
storm kraken
i dont know how to make this calculate function
saturday?????
frosty dock
uhh
lethal stratus
so if thats too weak let me know
storm kraken
i did this with an update function
frosty dock
+1 X1 for each Joker held?
lethal stratus
you got me hold on
frosty dock
i did this with an update function
that seems excessive
storm kraken
storm kraken
that seems excessive
?
frosty dock
there's no need to count jokers every frame
lethal stratus
lmao 😭
frosty dock
realistically you only need to do it in calculation and loc_vars
lethal stratus
i dont know how to do it at all though tbh
storm kraken
you need:
a count of all the jokers
a value to times by that count
the amount you get itself
i think
lethal stratus
well whats the easiest way to count jokers?
is there a way to just check how many jokers you have based on the joker slot counter?
crisp coral
well whats the easiest way to count jokers?
#G.jokers.cards
storm kraken
for i = 1, #G.jokers.cards do
#G.jokers.cards
storm kraken
honestly i think this is a minor skill problem (/j)
-# says as im struggling to make a custom hand
lethal stratus
well the main question that i have is mostly just
the location of the loop, and how to apply it to the Xmult variable
crisp coral
honestly i think this is a minor skill problem (/j)
-# says as im struggling to ...
whatchu need
lethal stratus
holy lobcorp
storm kraken
```lua
evaluate = function(parts, hand)
if next(parts._flush, part...
this thing
abomonation
storm kraken
😭
lethal stratus
thats it
price of silence
smh
can i just see abstract jokers code actually
idk where it is in the base game
storm kraken
can i just see abstract jokers code actually
hardy viper
would i just create a variable to do x = x + 1 or something
vro was right
atomic edge
is there any docuentation for SMODS.ConsumeableType
crisp coral
thunk moment
night pagoda
Is there no way to scale a node tree?
wintry solar
i needed to see the if statement damn you thunk
if context.joker_main then
return {
Xmult = #G.jokers.cards
}
end
This will give you 1 Xmult per joker
night pagoda
How do I properly manage the nodes created by localize()? This is what I'm currently doing, but this doesn't seem like a right thing to do
sonic cedar
calculate = function (self, card, context)
if context.joker_main and G.GAME.current_round.hands_left == 0 then
return{
mult_mod = card.ability.extra.mult,
message = localize{type = 'variable', key = 'a_mult', vars = {card.ability.extra.mult} }
}
elseif context.end_of_round then
if context.individual then
if not context.blueprint_card then
if card.ability.extra.c_rounds >= card.ability.extra.rounds then
card.ability.extra.mult = card.ability.extra.mult + card.ability.extra.mult_gain
return {
message = 'Yum!',
colour = G.C.MULT,
card = card
},
card.ability.extra.c_rounds == 0
else
card.ability.extra.c_rounds = card.ability.extra.c_rounds + 1
end
end
end
end
end
what's wrong with my calculate function? it's supposed to trigger the joker gaining 2 mult every 3 rounds (starts from 8), but instead it does it each round and the mult gain is like 10?? (went from 8 to 18) is it set up incorrectly? did i miss a line?
loc_vars = function (self, info_queue, card)
return{vars = {card.ability.extra.mult, card.ability.extra.mult_gain, card.ability.extra.rounds, card.ability.extra.c_rounds}}
end,```
forgot the loc varshow to check if a card is a stone card?
wintry solar
```lua
calculate = function (self, card, context)
if context.joker_main ...
Change the individual check to main_eval
sonic cedar
is it actually that easy
wintry solar
Assuming the rest of your code is correct, yeah it’s just an incorrect context check
wintry solar
It’s hard to read on mobile, can you screenshot?
lethal stratus
how to check if a card is a stone card?
?
sonic cedar
It’s hard to read on mobile, can you screenshot?
vocal verge
?
something akin to this, just not self
i think
there's probably a better way to check it
nocturne sentinel
are there any guides or any way to learn how to make mods for balatro (steammodded) sorry if im asking a stupid question
vocal verge
check out example mods
https://github.com/Steamodded/examples/tree/master/Mods
lethal stratus
its a joker check so i dont think self works
wintry solar
Oh what smods version are you on?
vocal verge
or just look through the game files/other mods and see if it works
nocturne sentinel
or just look through the game files/other mods and see if it works
ok ty!
sonic cedar
Oh what smods version are you on?
oldcalc
vocal verge
its a joker check so i dont think self works
this then
vocal verge
or what eremel said
sonic cedar
oh ok
wintry solar
No reason not to update
sonic cedar
i mean the only reason i WAS on oldcalc was i think cryptid?? iirc
crisp coral
one reason not to update
sonic cedar
a small price to pay for a functional mod,,,
wooden nexus
Doing a public test for #1318248620125851749 message
sonic cedar
Then update 🙃
it works thank you 🙏
gloomy adder
does anybody know whats going on ?? im not too sure
wintry solar
does anybody know whats going on ?? im not too sure
What’s calc_scale_fac?
nocturne garnet
does anybody know whats going on ?? im not too sure
you cant put an if statement in a table
gloomy adder
ohh alr
languid bay
Hello, I'm trying to have a joker retrigger playing cards that have already retriggered, afaik I can't check if there has already been retriggers in context.repititions. I may need to patch a new context to game.lua? Not sure where tho.
sharp blade
maybe you could set a a tag on the card to true in context.repetitions and read that value later?
atomic edge
sell = {n=G.UIT.R, config={align = "tr"}, nodes={ {n=G.UIT.R, config={ref_table = card, align = "tr",padding = 0.1, r=5, minw = 0.3, minh = 0.3, hover = true, shadow = true, colour = G.C.UI.BACKGROUND_INACTIVE, one_press = true, button = 'sell_card', func = 'can_sell_card'}, nodes={ -- {n=G.UIT.B, config = {w=0.1,h=0.6}}, {n=G.UIT.C, config={align = "tm"}, nodes={ {n=G.UIT.R, config={align = "cm", maxw = 1.25}, nodes={ {n=G.UIT.T, config={text = localize('b_sell'),colour = G.C.UI.TEXT_LIGHT, scale = 0.3, shadow = true}} }}, {n=G.UIT.R, config={align = "cm"}, nodes={ {n=G.UIT.T, config={text = localize('$'),colour = G.C.WHITE, scale = 0.3, shadow = true}}, {n=G.UIT.T, config={ref_table = card, ref_value = 'sell_cost_label',colour = G.C.WHITE, scale = 0.3, shadow = true}} }} }} }}, }}
this is the code for a sell button on a consumeable
can someone tell me how i can move it a bit to the left?
sharp blade
maybe you could set a a tag on the card to true in `context.repetitions` and rea...
something like
if context.repetitions then card.ability.extra.retriggered = true end if context.cardarea == G.jokers and context.joker_main and card.ability.extra.retriggered then [retrigger card] end
sharp blade
can someone tell me how i can move it a bit to the left?
like, move it behind the card?
sharp blade
ohh
sharp blade
looking at the shadow you would probably have to move the beer down rather than move the sell button up
is the hitbox of the card the entire square?
sharp blade
then you probably could just move the sprite down in your atlas so that the beer covers the sell button
atomic edge
you mean leave space at the top of the beer eg. make it smaller?
sharp blade
instead of leaving space at the bottom leave space at the top
atomic edge
yea smart but the problem is that the sell button is like directly above the use button
its a bad screenshot so you cant see
but its directly behind the beer
sharp blade
ohhh
minor gyro
what smods version?
the newest one
vital rapids
Just wanted to ask again if its possible to increase the chances of another joker being found in shop
Like gros michael and Cavendish but idk if gros Michael actually makes cavendish more common or just makes it avaliable
faint yacht
Cavendish will be available in the pool of possible Jokers to appear if Gros is eaten.
nocturne garnet
BEER
vital rapids
Cavendish will be available in the pool of possible Jokers to appear *if* Gros i...
I see
frosty dock
the newest one
then I'm afraid "does not work" isn't an accurate enough description of your problem
vital rapids
Just wanted to ask again if its possible to increase the chances of another joke...
Surely I'm not the first person to attempt this right?
I hope I'm not 😭
sharp blade
Just wanted to ask again if its possible to increase the chances of another joke...
You'd have to patch in to the get_current_pool function I think
line 1963 in common_events.lua
minor gyro
then I'm afraid "does not work" isn't an accurate enough description of your pro...
I fixed it thanks
frosty dock
Surely I'm not the first person to attempt this right?
jokers are not weighted within their respective rarity pools
vital rapids
jokers are not weighted within their respective rarity pools
What if i gave the joker a special rarity and manipulated that instead?
frosty dock
that is possible
runic pecan
Is this effect enough for a Legendary-like?
Also, is this wording OK?
runic pecan
Like accelerate instead of velocity
frosty dock
yeah i get it, you want quadratic scaling
runic pecan
And I'm asking if there's better wording because I was like 84% sure it is confusing before posting the ask.
minor gyro
thank god u wasn't 85%
vital rapids
Is this effect enough for a Legendary-like?
Also, is this wording OK?
Probably add a "per"
Gain mult per mult gained
Slightly less confusing
Or of
Gain mult% of mult gained
frosty dock
nah ur making it more confusing
vital rapids
Well im stumped
hardy viper
im rooted
frosty dock
im trunked
minor gyro
hey Mr. Johohon smods
hardy viper
the real john from smods
runic pecan
Maybe "Mult gained next hand increased by X0.25"?
frosty dock
jhon
minor gyro
is there a git page talking about message?
message = localize { type = 'variable', key = 'a_chips_minus', vars = { card.ability.extra.chip_loss } },
like this?
frosty dock
isn't that auto supported
minor gyro
isn't that auto supported
I want to know the keys
frosty dock
like iirc you can just return { chips = -10 }
hardy viper
Maybe "Mult gained next hand increased by X0.25"?
gain 0.25x mult when a hand with no face cards is played
increase scales with consecutive increases (resets)
will give 0.75x mult next hand
maybe?
frosty dock
i guess there's stuff like ice cream
where you really just want the message
in which case that does look correct
minor gyro
like iirc you can just return { chips = -10 }
The joker I was working on triggers 3x mult on every modded joker, but It just returns the total, I wanted to "count" on screen before that
cuz is prettier 
frosty dock
sounds like a use for context.other_joker
I'd advise you also score the xmult at that time though, additive xmult per thing is confusing when done like this
minor gyro
change to context.other_joker instead joker main?
runic pecan
How about this?
(This is, in some way, inspired by Ride the Bus)
frosty dock
then context.other_joker is the other joker you use to check if it's modded rather than checking for all jokers
hardy viper
How about this?
(This is, in some way, inspired by Ride the Bus)
i think this is understandable yeah
tepid crow
How about this?
(This is, in some way, inspired by Ride the Bus)
so this is a scaling scaling joker but it doesn't reset the scaling on failure, it resets the scaling scaling on failure?
scaling is a weird word
runic pecan
so this is a scaling scaling joker but it doesn't reset the scaling on failure, ...
Wait, hold on
frosty dock
here's something wacky
Each hand, this joker gains X0.25 Mult per consecutive hand played with at least one scoring face card
-# maybe that's too dense to not be confusing
tepid crow
maybe
frosty dock
so this is a scaling scaling joker but it doesn't reset the scaling on failure, ...
well it resets the scaling instead of the value
the scaling scaling is constant
runic pecan
Wait, hold on
OK, playing a hand with no scoring face card resets the mult you gain each hand (to zero).
tepid crow
the scaling scaling is constant
I'd say the scaling scaling scaling is constant (0.25)
it's just derivatives all the way down
runic pecan
0.25 is the second derivative.
tepid crow
exactly
frosty dock
I consider the:
- value to be the mult given
- scaling to be the amount the value gains (constant for something like bus unless resets), i.e. first derivative
- scaling scaling to be the amount scaling gains, i.e. the sceond derivative
runic pecan
but you said scaling thrice
frosty dock
i guess if you consider scaling to be the mult given, what you said makes sense
runic pecan
For reference, here's my code
frosty dock
me when I Xmult_mod_mod_mod
runic pecan
why are you `card_eval_status_text`ing
Because return {message=} method is too tailored to normal circumstances.
frosty dock
i don't see how that doesn't work here
runic pecan
For example, returning Xmult value overwrites my desired message colour to G.C.MULT.
frosty dock
you can put a colour in your return...
runic pecan
oh wait that's not a `calculate` function?
An upgrade function I can call inside the calculate function.
tepid crow
yeah okay so then a return should work fine?
runic pecan
you can put a `colour` in your return...
...And still get overwrote to red? No thanks, I've tried that.
I had spent a whole afternoon trying to solve that problem, and card_eval_status_text is the first reliable solution I found.
tepid crow
hold on lemme test that then
runic pecan
hold on lemme test that then
I'd be very glad if it was just caused by me having not updated my smods.
tepid crow
I don't think it's that 😬
frosty dock
wait you're doing an Xmult return?
if you do a message return, colour works normally
for Xmult, it needs to be in xmult_message
runic pecan
wait you're doing an Xmult return?
The problem only happened when message, Xmult, and colour are returned in one braket.
tepid crow
I mean smods shouldn't get a final say on the colour?
frosty dock
it doesn't
this is just card_eval_status_text being passed x_mult type, this is easily overridden with xmult_message
it's just that normal colour only works for a normal message
tepid crow
so what, balatro itself isn't allowing it?
frosty dock
if you had both an Xmult and a different message, would you want to only be able to set the colour for both at the same time??
runic pecan
Oh, by the way, card_eval_status_text also allow me to display message when no return is required.
runic pecan
When I need to do calculation after message is shown.
Wait, lemme find the code that had bugged me into start using card_eval_status_text
spring lantern
why is the last card allegedly being calculated twice? i must've goofed up big time somehow
tepid crow
for `Xmult`, it needs to be in `xmult_message`
I feel like I'm being stupid, this is supposed to work right?
return {
xmult = 2,
xmult_message = "test"
}
ah
frosty dock
the docs need to be more precise on this
tepid crow
the docs still say
Use
chip_message = 'text'to change the text (this maintains default timings)
but yeah the table works
frosty dock
@wintry solar huh
tepid crow
why is the last card allegedly being calculated twice? i must've goofed up big t...
I'm assuming your context check is too broad? you should be able to just print the context out to see what's happening
frosty dock
was that ever accurate?