💻・modding-dev

[frosty dock]

we patch with negative priority, so we're almost guaranteed to be patching exactly vanilla code. We change so much that we're close to guaranteed to break if the game updates a lot of its code anyways

[viscid field]

I think it'd be possible to make a mod that patches ALL the other mods' code and replace number operations with Talisman bigints

[wild patrol]

I've seen people do some pretty advanced things with smod

The game source code is all in plane text

[frosty dock]

yeah lovely by itself is already arbitrary code execution

[viscid field]

you still need to know the code to patch it though

[frosty dock]

I've suggested wildcard targets to be added into lovely for 0.8.0 so this would also be possible

[viscid field]

lovely can never replace ALL integer operations with talisman bigints right

[wild patrol]

I've done byte code before it's a pain honestly

[viscid field]

because it simply doesn't know what is a number and what is not

[wild patrol]

When I made a personal patch for Revanced

[wintry solar]

doesn't talisman already handle integer operations?

[frosty dock]

it's just comparisons anyway

[viscid field]

I mean, for mods that don't support talisman and use regular numbers

you can patch number literals to be bigints

[wild patrol]

Only time I've seen byte code used is mostly for patching a binary

[frosty dock]

if lua can parse a number comparison, so can I

[viscid field]

function test(lhs,rhs)
    return lhs == rhs
end

how would you patch this

mind you, lhs can be a string, or nil, or whatever

same with rhs

[frosty dock]

I don't need to

[viscid field]

if a mod comes around that uses such code

you can't patch it to use talisman

[frosty dock]

if there's a number literal being passed in, I'll catch it elsewhere

[viscid field]

table comparison always returns false

talis_int == talis_int returns false

[frosty dock]

no

[viscid field]

pcall?

[frosty dock]

it has metamethods

[wild patrol]

I'm not saying that you shouldn't make this just saying that what you're making smod can probably already do and in a more simple to understand

[viscid field]

metamethods can't override equality

[runic pecan]

[Lua question]
Is this break breaking out of the if statement or the for loop?

[viscid field]

that's lua5.3

if can't be broken

LuaJIT has a special build flag to support overriding < and > with metamethods but not equality tests

even then you'll need to start replacing the luajit dll

[frosty dock]

I can think of a use case where you would need to check for equality on something that's a bignum anyways

[frosty dock]

but it does successfully overload comparison

it just can't compare numbers with tables

[random sleet]

someone should make a mod to fix talisman saves

[random sleet]

because i dont want to be the one to make TalismanFixer

[glossy stone]

sorry guys, ik i havent worked on it in months so maybe none of you still remember, but literally all of original sound got wiped along with my laptop's ssd. rest in pepperoni

[random sleet]

yes i am giving up on talisman at the first sign of it being broken idc

[violet void]

I have a question

Is this wiki site (https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page) editable by anyone who wants to add their own mod?

[glossy stone]

the only thing left is the art, cuz i made it on my phone

[viscid field]

that's Lua 5.3

[violet void]

Because it keeps telling me this

Anyone had this happen to them?

[frosty dock]

I am 100% sure it works, I've literally used __eq metamethods within balatro

[glossy stone]

literally all the jokers were functional, i judt had to finsibt eh FUCKIGN ART

gonna end it all now

i s2g

[runic pecan]

What is the lua equivalent of list.pop?

[frosty dock]

table.remove

[violet void]

I'll contribute in 9 years 💀

[viscid field]

How can a number be generated?
pcall, xpcall, #thing string.byte, right? What about the 3rd return value of debug.gethook?

[glossy stone]

balatro 6 will come out by then surely

wait no

balala 6

[crisp coral]

This is probably due to using a VPN of some sort, you can look for Miraheze support to ask for manual account creation

[glossy stone]

-# hi myst. S RANK ANBY IS FUCKING REAL?????

[crisp coral]

Otherwise, yes, you're free to add your own mod if it's released

[crisp coral]

-# like... qingyi???

[frosty dock]

out of those, the only one I've seen being relevant to at least one mod is #thing and that's easy to parse

[glossy stone]

-# RIGHT NOW LOOK AT SOCIALS

[crisp coral]

hold on sob

[glossy stone]

-# ANBY. DEMARA.

-# SILVER SOLDIER OR SMTH

[viscid field]

Oh, did I mention the necessity of patching ACEd save files for usage of old ints?

[glossy stone]

-# I MIGHT SKIP EVELYN

[crisp coral]

-# I AM HYPERVENTILATING

[glossy stone]

-# I KNOW YOU ARE

[violet void]

I dont have a vpn active and they never responded to my last email

being banned before even knowing of the service is somehow funny

[frosty dock]

okay gotcha. but this is a completely made-up problem

[glossy stone]

-# HEY HET WAITBA MINUTE FUCKING PLAYABLE PULCHRA??? WAIT WHAT

[viscid field]

in CS, a lot of times it is the edge cases you miss that come back and bite you

[glossy stone]

-# THEY FUCKING DRIP MARKETED PULCHRA NOT A DRILL

-# WAIT NO

[runic pecan]

Where can I find document explaining G.GAME.consumeable_buffer?

[glossy stone]

-# IMMA CHECK FOR MYSELF

wait no imma take this to dms

bye

[crisp coral]

true

[viscid field]

void foo(int* x,int *y){
    *x = *y;
    *x = *y;
}

Clearly there's no case where assigning to *x can make a difference, and nobody would mind if I removed the second assigment

the "clearly" is not sarcastic and actually it is true that you can strip the second assigment, but if you know C, you would say this instead
"There seems to be no case where assigning to *x can make a difference, except if somebody did int* x; x = (int*)&x;, in which case there is actually a difference. However strict aliasing prohibits such code from being valid, and all in all we can elide the second assignment"

[tender gale]

how can I have different lua files for decks/jokers etc in my mod? is there an easy way?

[viscid field]

if you make other lua files not loaded by the loader then you can load() the auxiliary files yourself

[tender gale]

how

[viscid field]

you would

love.filesystem.load("mods/custom/aux.lua")()

(I'm not sure if smods allows the extension to be lua)

[tender gale]

thanks

[viscid field]

love.filesystem.load is relative to the data directory, where settings.jkr resides

[misty cape]

so this is how the game enables/disables HC colors. How would i implement this in to refresh/check/toggle it on game launch ?

[wintry solar]

assert(SMODS.load_file(‘path’))()

[tender gale]

thanks, i'll try it

[viscid field]

... or is it? thing could be any expression and regex famously can't match parentheses

[frosty dock]

it can though?

again I wouldn't be trying to do this, I have no reason to. Talisman compat takes very little effort on the average mod's end

I'm just saying it's probably possible with Lovely given the addition of wildcard targets

[frosty dock]

this is where I like not being "minimalist". This effectively forces users to have the folder for a mod named a certain exact way

-# talisman does this

[random sleet]

rip talisman

as soon as i can uninstall it im gonna this mod is cursed

baited into ruining my save file to try to make compat

[frosty dock]

eval G.PROFILES[G.SETTINGS.profile].career_stats.c_dollars_earned = to_number(G.PROFILES[G.SETTINGS.profile].career_stats.c_dollars_earned)

tis the only stat it actually invades

-# it was supposed to ignore it

[random sleet]

either i dont load talisman and cant load or i load talisman and it saves over that

[frosty dock]

just G:save_settings() after that

then disable talisman and reload

[wintry solar]

As someone who isn’t fond of big number go brrrrr thinking, talisman changing money and hand levels to big nums is something I’m not keen on

[random sleet]

yep im never touchjng it again

cant be bothered to keep decent precautions for shit like this

[violet void]

me neither, its less fun if you're op

[random sleet]

nd just arbitrarily change shit

overhauling how the entire game does math is a bit of a responsibility after all

if i cant trust that it wont break every five seconds im not usjng it

[wild patrol]

Only fun to be op after you've beaten the game

Which is why typically keeping mods off my main save

[violet void]

basically

I started modding because I got stuck in orange stake in red deck 🙄

[wild patrol]

I'm stuck on the hex deck

Game absolutely refuses to give me good joker cards for my run

[misty cape]

any ideas to fix this?? watch the suit color tool tip on jokers. (also not sure why the cursor doesnt show in video)

[viscid field]

It cannot match balanced parentheses without PCRE subroutines or balancing groups

[frosty dock]

fair enough

I still don't see the practical need for this, we don't need a more invasive Talisman, if anything it should get less invasive

[wild patrol]

I don't see the point in this either seems like smod but with extra steps

Wouldn't it be better to contribute to smod instead of making an entirely different system for people to learn?

[random sleet]

we need conflicts = ['Talisman']

[frosty dock]

agree, not to mention a minimalist loader works for exactly the mods we have that only use lovely. For anything else the base game is too unmoddable to have any content mods without either one large coremod or separate API mods that land you straight in terrible user experience land

[wild patrol]

Like I'm not against the idea of new ways to mod the game a better mod loader would be great considering lovely injector doesn't like playing well with defender and other anti viruses

And no tell what other things it can trip inadvertently like anticheats since it's technically a game hack

But a clone of smod just more difficult seems pointless

[random sleet]

lovely only content mod dont tempt me

i dont have to play nice with anyone else's bs then

[viscid field]

byte patching can be used with smods or with aml

look, some slay the spire modding needs javassist's bytecode patching, so I'm making a patcher here as well

[wild patrol]

Not really the point I'm making what I'm saying is wouldn't it be easier just to contribute to smod. Like we have the games source code no reason to byte code the game that we can literally see what function does what

[viscid field]

byte patcher is just a mod, not modloader

[viscid field]

which is making smods like Windows, where every functionality is packed in there and sometimes many are bloat. I think modloaders should be like Linux where every functionality is its own mod. The obstacle is not too many mods, it is the lack of a manager like apt or pacman

this also helps with decoupling of different components

[wild patrol]

I like Linux too and would like to see more use it, but windows is more easier to understand for your average computer users than Linux is

[random sleet]

I LOVE DEVS BEING ON WILDLY DIFFERENT ECOSYSTEMS AND NOTHING WORKING TOGETHER WOOOOO

[vocal verge]

skyrim with 4 different animation frameworks xdd

[viscid field]

aml mods can be turned into smods mods with 5 lines of change

[random sleet]

i will literally never use your modloader please stop advertising it to me

[viscid field]

I'm not advertising it?

I'm saying my mods are not exclusive to the aml ""ecosystem""

[random sleet]

no but

[vocal verge]

I feel like "5 lines of change" is more than "no lines need to be changed" making it exclusive

[random sleet]

you know how theres already only like five mods that are baseline functional right now with smods and lovely and everything being CONSTANTLY CHANGING EVERY MINUTE

[vocal verge]

unless i'm misunderstanding

[random sleet]

lets split that in two

[viscid field]

I can write a python script to convert aml to smods later

[random sleet]

your modloader gets two functional mods

smods gets three

players get a max of three mods

[wild patrol]

I'm not gonna say not make this I'm gonna say you should contribute more to smod

[random sleet]

in the event that conversion is even possible, whats the chance of blind lucky success?

[wild patrol]

It would probably be better for future mods as a whole

[random sleet]

how often does it need manual adjustment?

and players dont do these things

[viscid field]

never unless I use something smods outright doesn't support

[random sleet]

i don't care how easy it is to do

[viscid field]

I hook it up to MY IDE

[random sleet]

players dont do it

[viscid field]

I release both versions

no burden to downstream

[random sleet]

the burden is everyone who has to deal with bug reports from Not Really A SMODS Mod Tee Hee causing 100s of issues because it doesnt use smods code

[runic pecan]

Should I use the event tech or just drag the highlighted part out of it?
sorry, nvm, I should keep it.

[violet void]

Is this adding a planet every frame?

[wild patrol]

By javassisted are u saying ur version will need java to work?

Just making sure

[viscid field]

javassist is a java patcher used in slay the spire modding which I used as an analogy, has nothing to do with my work

I just happen to have worked in sts modding before as well

[wild patrol]

So u need java for the patcher to function

Is what I'm asking

[runic pecan]

Only per played hand, if I coded correctly.

[viscid field]

no external dependencies

not java

not smods or aml

not even balatro

it's just a generic lua library

[random sleet]

there are now 100 competing standards

[vocal verge]

Why should I use your standard over just using smods?

probably a good question to ask

[viscid field]

I have this OCD which will make me irresistably spam PRs to smods and lovely to replace regex with CFG-based matching, make OOP BalatroGameInstance, make everything load on demand, etc.

This is really bad for me and unfortunately the only way for me to stay out of it is to not massively contribute to existing codebases.

[viscid field]

if you are asking for a fair advertisement, it is probably the classic "good software design" features(that seem to be lacking in a lot of community projects; do note that I'm not implying this is objectively better, just that it more or less aligns with my ideas of good software)

decoupling, modularity, no feature bloat, full extensibility, no global pollusion, etc.

[viscid field]

actually, unironically yes, if 100 is binary:
manual editing, smods, raw lovely, aml

[random sleet]

yay no feature bloat and now every mod on the framework isnt compatible with each other bc they all implement the same things you're trying to not do

[vocal verge]

yeah i'm ngl

no feature bloat just means the mods will have to implement features which will just mean there needs to be a single mod that adds that feature and then other mods that use that mod making it a known dependency

which just means it's better for that single mod to be part of the original framework

[viscid field]

that's the bane of the mods because tada they violated the single responsibility principle

[frosty dock]

I like the fact you didn't include balamod. It was never a standard

[random sleet]

whatever im just blocking you
i dont know what response you expected to coming in here touting " I AM GOING TO DRAMATICALLY FRACTURE THE MODDING COMMUNITY BC I WANT TO "

[viscid field]

I'm not trying to push my opinion, but the example I'm taking is that arch linux doesn't come with NetworkManager by default, even though literally every installation has it

[random sleet]

god of course you use arch

[faint yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/emesis-blue-tf2-team-fortress-2-jane-doe-soldier-gif-5823670898662900142

[frosty dock]

https://tenor.com/view/i-use-arch-btw-use-arch-linux-fedora-gif-23272370

[vocal verge]

isn't it literally because arch is supposed to be super barebones and have a bunch of modules you just add if you need them

[frosty dock]

See I get your point but Balatro isn't the kind of game to have an Arch Linux-inspired mod loader

[random sleet]

arch is literally the thing i said earlier about dramatically different ecosystems

[frosty dock]

it's not built around modding and needs a lot of changes to achieve any sort of mod compatibility

[random sleet]

no arch install is the same, hell if you ever actually want to do anything for people on arch bc being on arch tells you NOTHING about what that pc can do

[frosty dock]

I've been turning certain changes into optional features, so it's configurable towards what installed mods need in-place, but having to install 7 million add-ons just seems bad from a usability standpoint

[runic pecan]

Is it possible to rotate jokers upside-down?

[frosty dock]

something very barebones can work decently for a game that is mostly moddable on its own

[viscid field]

which is why there are package managers -- if you need to install that many dependencies then something's very wrong

[vocal verge]

Yeah, the original framework is wack

[frosty dock]

that's fine but it's not a format I would want to maintain

[random sleet]

yeah well the best package manager we have is github desktop

[viscid field]

which is a problem I'll try to solve, alongside the lack of semver

I can't afford a server for a centralized mod repo however

[random sleet]

mate nobody wants you to kill this community please

[wintry solar]

I think this is a classic case of if we ignore it it will go away

[vocal verge]

I mean yeah

[wintry solar]

Unless something major shifts, smods is already embedded in the community now

[vocal verge]

Worth a shot but

I'm pretty sure most people in the world still use windows

[wintry solar]

There would have to be something pretty dramatic to make people shift

[vocal verge]

which is not what htey're trying to emulate

[frosty dock]

good shot if you started working on this like a year ago

steamodded is literally the establishment now

[vocal verge]

mmm

[viscid field]

This reminds me of Minecraft 1.13 the flattening

[vocal verge]

soemthign something down with the establishment

[random sleet]

yeah i just dont wanna see the same bs happen here as in minecraft

[vocal verge]

doesn't minecraft still have like 3 different mod frameworks

[viscid field]

that's not what I want to see either

[viscid field]

forge fabric quilt

[tender gale]

Just looking through I don't think you're supposed to replace the balatro file

[random sleet]

can anyone name 1 mod for the most recent version of forge that isnt Create?
can anyone name 1 mod for fabric?

[faint yacht]

Forge, NeoForge, Fabric, Quilt...

[random sleet]

who here wants to see the same happen to balatro?

[viscid field]

0 people

[vocal verge]

Mekanism

the goat

[random sleet]

oh fuck mek updated?

(the fact this is shocking news....)

[faint yacht]

I'm a Tinkers Construct freak personally... especially with the armor addon back then.

[vocal verge]

1.12.2 pack

[viscid field]

I feel like 1.12 TC is better than modern versions but maybe it's just me

[vocal verge]

pretty sure it's mostly the same

[viscid field]

Sky Factory 4
My only real experience with modded mc, but the most unforgettable one too

[viscid field]

material effects got changed

[vocal verge]

as long as they made it worth to use the other materials and not just speedrun your way to cobalt and manyullyn, that's good

[random sleet]

alright but yeah more ontopic i really think making "Balatro Fabric" is a dogshit ass idea

[viscid field]

Maybe it's just me but I absolutely hate when literally anything get changed in videogames and when literally anything changed in UI design in any app whatsoever

except for bugfixes

[random sleet]

minecraft could BARELY survive it

[vocal verge]

yeah, i'd rather not have to triple check every mod i want to hope it's supported for the modloader i'm using

[random sleet]

balatro is way smaller

ramifications of something like this dont end at having clean code

[viscid field]

AML's not going to release if that will happen

[vocal verge]

So then what's the point if it's not gonna be much different from the original but wiht a bunch of requirements for each mod because the function was removed from the base framework?

[frosty dock]

my take is that it just won't be relevant enough to get anyone to make mods for it

[vocal verge]

Just sounds like more work than anything

[viscid field]

it will be like an "alternative frontend" -- you mod with one framework and your mod automatically works with both

[vocal verge]

so just a mod manager

[viscid field]

simple: stdlib

[wintry solar]

I think when the justification for using this over smods was “I think it’s designed better” we can probably just let it drift around in a space where no one will look at it

[viscid field]

also for some reason aml got into the conversation when it was all about byte patching which is literally ecosystem agnostic

[wintry solar]

Lots of people already have a hard enough time even installing lovely/smods and the mod of their choice, imagine them having to install all the dependencies and modify the game files too

[viscid field]

it can work like linux and have a windows UX

[frosty dock]

smods is mostly a backend

[vocal verge]

Or

We can just make it wor klike windows

[frosty dock]

it just also exposes APIs

[vocal verge]

and have hte dependencies pre-installed

[wintry solar]

I just can’t see the populace picking up something that works that way

[frosty dock]

it's not used for its great frontend

[vocal verge]

Because no amount of windows UX shenanigans will skip over the fact that you still need to do extra work for each mod

[frosty dock]

and people won't switch to aml for a mediocre frontend with barely any backend

[viscid field]

all the work is done by pacman

[frosty dock]

smods could exist in a way where all of its functionality is modularized

[viscid field]

smods compatibility layer that's automatically installed if you install a smods mod

[frosty dock]

you just won't get me to maintain something organized that way

[frosty dock]

so... smods with extra steps?

[vocal verge]

smods with extra steps
but mods made for it need patching to work with smods

from what i gathered

[viscid field]

Arch Linux with KDE Plasma is just like windows except for the backend

but the reason I like Arch Linux's design is it also works on a potato with only 128MB RAM

[frosty dock]

okay but Balatro doesn't

[vocal verge]

ok but it's NOT just like windows

it looks like windows but it's still arch linux and still needs you to download the dependencies and do extra work

for what is literally nothing

ebcause all you're doing is changing the back end to be omre complicated

Like I don't see waht hte benefits here are over just using smods
because Balatro is not a computer that needs a hyper optimized operating system

[viscid field]

smods is objectively better if you play cryptid
I don't want to see a mods menu and have an API to add jokers if I'm only modding to fix a crash or smth so I make my own project
and I'm sharing it not in hopes of it being a competitor but just so that a hypothetical someone else won't also spend 10 hours trying to make the same thing

[vocal verge]

well that makes a lot more sense

[frosty dock]

the use case of that is literally what lovely only mods are

[wintry solar]

But you don’t need smods to do that, you can just use a lovely patch

[viscid field]

lovely patches can't expose APIs for other stuff without polluting globals

[frosty dock]

so... you're making a tool to align with your standards when the game itself doesn't adhere to them?

scope limiting makes sense when you're exposing a scripting API for a compiled game

most lovely mods put their "globals" in a table of their own anyways

[random sleet]

me when i pollute globals:

how the hell do you intend to have an api that isnt global

fuck good is that

[glossy stone]

yeah so i'm pretty sure my entire mod got wiped out when my laptop broke

still gonna make it tho

I Just Have To ReCode Everything Again

[violet void]

This change is goated

[glossy stone]

Holy Shit Kill Me

[vocal verge]

[frosty dock]

ikr the old page sucked

[viscid field]

name clashes can exist unknowingly

Anyway I don't want this to sound like me trying to defend my sometimes questionable beliefs or imposing it on other people and their projects, I'd close this conversation with some final words: Since it's futile trying to change the world to fix every past mistake, I just try to create an incomplete, but nicer parallel universe. It need not substitude or interfere with the original one, but at least I get the peace of mind while I'm in it.

[runic pecan]

Quick question: is this Doable?

[frosty dock]

yeah sure

[viscid field]

There's code to handle jokers tilting from mouse over, maybe you can copy some rotation code from there

[vocal verge]

oh taht's fucking fantastic

[runic pecan]

Which file though... (Currently digging through moveable.lua)

[frosty dock]

hooking into Card.update seems to change the rotation only when the card isn't aligned to a card area

so probably need to get into CardArea:align_cards as well

[wild patrol]

Are u sure it was the entire laptop

Probably recover the files

[random sleet]

fusion jokers has a joker that flips upside down

[wild patrol]

If the drive isn't damaged

[vocal verge]

hey, who does wiki changes

cause this is wrong

[frosty dock]

shoot

me in the foot

[wild patrol]

Which one

[frosty dock]

reload the page

[surreal marsh]

i want to add a layer on joker (to draw joker enhancement 🤪 ) and current effect is, if not dragging the new layer fits perfectly, including card's tilt, but if dragging the new layer isn't lagging behind (fixed to cursor's position) and not rotating 🤔 how to fix

[wintry solar]

Does the sidebar collapse properly? I noticed it wasn’t doing links properly last night

[frosty dock]

it just does this now, no collapsing

the spacing looked weird so i decided against making it collapsible

🤔

[glossy stone]

...the ssd's fucked

[wild patrol]

There's still a possibility you can get an os to recognize it long enough to pull files from it

[vocal verge]

possible to make them spin?

[frosty dock]

-# don't mind the changed rarity badge, i have that in my testing mod for some reason

[wild patrol]

Try running a lite Linux distro off a USB

And see if u can get the OS to recognize it after booting into it

[random sleet]

-# thac used to change the loc for "Jokers" to "Jonklers"

[wild patrol]

Ubuntu isn't lite but it has away to run the os without installing it

[crisp elbow]

I mean any live usb should work

[wild patrol]

Ubuntu one that I could name off top my head

That and Linux mint

Just download the iso use a program like Rufus to flash it to a USB

Hell you could probably unironically use your phone to make a USB bootable now

[surreal marsh]

sprite:draw_shader('dissolve', nil, nil, nil, self.children.center)

[crisp coral]

@violet void you should be good to contribute now

and do join the modding wiki discord server

[random sleet]

myst you should join

[crisp coral]

i should join?

join where?

[wintry solar]

Just join

[crisp coral]

teach me how to join

''.join(myst)

[violet void]

How do you know

[violet void]

The password they sent doesn't work

[crisp coral]

you sure you got it right?

[violet void]

im copying it directly from the email along with the username

[crisp coral]

better to just write normally

[violet void]

nope

they probably sent me the wrong one

[wild patrol]

found two bugs so far with pot of greed card

can't view deck with it in ur deck or the game crashes

peek deck crashes the game

guess this is the next thing I gotta fix

[violet void]

So that wasn't their discord server, I'm sending a new email and hopefully I'll manage to get in

[wild patrol]

also anime style def looks better

[random sleet]

pictured here the right leg

[wild patrol]

huh that's weird

I didn't change the text

all I did wasw change the sprite sheet

oml it is wrong in the main file

there we go fixed it

ok guess now I should work on making scape goat

need to find the function that makes random joker cards

[gaunt thistle]

Interesting chat about aml and bytecode patching. It reminds me that I've got a sketched out plan for semantic patches which are able to parse Lua syntax trees to do what they do, but it's been in the back burner for a while. In general I try to develop features that people need and that just hasn't been the case with regex.

There's an inherent fragility with text parsing that's always made me somewhat uncomfortable. This is improved by bettering pattern specificity but there's always an undercurrent of "I'm asking for n to happen rather than telling it to do n" if that makes any sense.

If I have the time this weekend I'll look into maybe using something like treesitter and its selector syntax to inject patches.

[wild patrol]

local _card = SMODS.create_card({ set = 'Joker', area = G.jokers, key = 'derek' })

would trhis create a random joker card?

[frosty dock]

no

[wild patrol]

what would be the best way to create a random joker from a consumable

[violet void]

like judgement?

[wild patrol]

yeah

I was looking at judgment

but I was planning make it do 4 at same time lmao

[violet void]

you need a buffer if it requires to have room

[wild patrol]

would I need to do a local_vars and do a return { vars = { card and card.ability.

and give it judments ability

[ivory coral]

hello chat, im getting a crash when checking if a joker has any edition, says its attempting to index a nil value, but like, thats kinda the point of it so idk why its crashing

    if G.jokers[i].cards.edition then --check if edition exists
        if not G.jokers.cards[i].edition.negative then eligibleJokers[#eligibleJokers+1] = G.jokers.cards[i] end --if it does check if its negative and make it eligible
    else
        eligibleJokers[#eligibleJokers+1] = G.jokers.cards[i] end --no edition means it cant be negative so its eligible
end```

[frosty dock]

you're doing G.jokers[i].cards

🥴

[ivory coral]

aaargh fizzlesticks

thanks lad

[runic pecan]

: Imagine a Space joker, but slightly better.
: Uh huh.
: And then a Constellation, but way more powerful.
: I'm listening.
: Now put them together-

[zealous glen]

do you know Magic: the Gathering

[runic pecan]

Heard of it, yeah

[zealous glen]

Ah I had made some custom fan HoloEN cards

[runic pecan]

Goddamnitwhydidntyoutellsooner

[zealous glen]

do you want to see them, or some of them

[runic pecan]

Let's just say some of them.

[wild patrol]

I guess i'll figure out the random card generation think some othewr time

time to break from coding lol

[wintry solar]

I’m pretty sure there’s a utility function thet does this let me find it

[minor gyro]

wdym accumulate?

[runic pecan]

I store the planets in card.ability.extra.bag_of_planet

As in {'c_earth','c_ceres',...}

[minor gyro]

yhyh

[viscid field]

exactly! I always think text is always the form and the AST/bytecode is the content. Kind of like the view vs the model in MVC. On this topic, I'm currently working on my own programming language + computer, which takes on this problem by storing all the source code as preprocessed AST with metadata to minimize compile time. This allows you to customize the syntax much like how you customize the toolbar in browsers, meaning the same program can look like Java or Lua with just a skin change

[wintry solar]

I don’t know why this function is still here, it should 100% be in utils

[random sleet]

tales from the world of cross-mod patching: i just made Pokermon evolutions keep my Joker Stamps

i was tempted to ping you, lol (referring to metherul)

[frosty dock]

noice

[maiden phoenix]

JokerEvo so good they keep the stamp on evolution too 😏

[random sleet]

oh fr

thats good means i dont have to mess with that

[runic pecan]

How do I do extra badge (other than mod and rarity) like pokermon type?
pokermon source code is kinda confusing.

[tepid crow]

After I think

[zealous glen]

I can send you one later

Though maybe Steamodded has a better system now

Actually let me try to send it now

[zealous glen]

for a Joker

[runic pecan]

Thank you.

[long sun]

rate? :D

[random sleet]

sord

[long sun]

dahgar

[nocturne garnet]

chivuh

[long sun]

knoife

[zealous glen]

Oh I did get my Dagger Boss Blind working

[minor gyro]

spaid

[tight thistle]

quick question! not for anything im doing as of right now, but out of pure curiosity, is there a way for a joker's effect to check on unlocks/discoveries?

like an effect that only triggers once per save file, or an effect that grows depending on discovered jokers

[minor gyro]

that would be so OP 😭

[weary jungle]

why does the boss pull back the cards 😭

its like the boss is ripping the cards out of your hands and burning it on the spot 😭

[minor gyro]

The cards tried to escape lmao

[runic pecan]

What {C:} should I use on any consumeable?
I'm currently using attention but doesn't look right.

[minor gyro]

either attention or chips ig

perkeo uses attention

[minor gyro]

try something diferent: Use X:attention,C:white

just for fun

[runic pecan]

I think {C:blue} fits my taste.

[minor gyro]

Looks great

[violet void]

thats for spectrals tho

[wind turtle]

does anyone know the list of text formatting things?

[minor gyro]

https://github.com/Steamodded/examples/blob/master/Mods/ExampleJokersMod/ModdedVanilla.lua#L37-L43

[wind turtle]

thanks

[orchid thunder]

Damn I'm working in pre calculate for cryptid main

[tepid crow]

hmm

[wintry solar]

Isn’t cryptid being converted?

[tepid crow]

double check it, it might also be there in pre-better-calc

[orchid thunder]

Yeah but we are waiting for refactoring to be done

[wind turtle]

how do I do a radom number between 1 and 4 inclusive?

[wintry solar]

I don’t understand why you’d continue making stuff for the old version then when you can just make it for the new version and it doesn’t need updating then?

[orchid thunder]

Because

[runic pecan]

pseudorandom([any string as you like], 1, 4)

[orchid thunder]

Idk how to work the refactor branch is cryptid

[wind turtle]

thanks

[orchid thunder]

But what happens if I just try 5o call the calculate function

[wind turtle]

how do I remove a joker? i'm trying to look at dagger and madness but the code isn't making sense to me

this is what i get for learning godot instead of lua

[runic pecan]

A risky way is to just tell them to :start_dissolve().

[orchid thunder]

How do context work

[runic pecan]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Guide-‐-Joker-Calculation

[wind turtle]

thanks, that worked!

[orchid thunder]

Then how do I use a custom context temporarily

All I need is to run something though calculate function from add_to_deck function

[runic pecan]

Can you specify more?

[orchid thunder]

Why can't my stupid brain understand this

[wind turtle]

i'm trying to make a joker that destroys all the other ones and makes new ones (for the silly) and that second part is working but the "destroy all others" isn't

[orchid thunder]

It's a cryptid thing that for scalae to scale jokers it has to scale In calculate but right now it scales in addtodeck

[wind turtle]

also what are the arguments in create_card for?

[wintry solar]

Add to deck and calculate do completely different things though, I don’t understand why you’d need them to interact?

[runic pecan]

add_to_deck defines things that would happen when this card/joker is added to your deck.
As far as I comprehended, you need to call card:calculate inside add_to_deck, is that right?

[orchid thunder]

Yes I'm asking if I can do that

And in the argument context if I but something like scale
Can I do in calculate context.scale

[runic pecan]

Just use {key = value} and your calc func will receive a context where context.key is value.

[orchid thunder]

In context

[orchid thunder]

So card:calculate(self, card, {key = value})

[runic pecan]

Almost
card:calculate(card, {key = value})

[orchid thunder]

Oh ok

You've been most helpful

[runic pecan]

Well, I try to do my best.

[minor gyro]

if G.jokers.cards[1] ~= self and (G.jokers.cards[i].area and G.jokers.cards[i].area == G.jokers) then
if G.jokers.cards[i] ~= self then
G.jokers.cards[i]:start_dissolve()
end
end

i think just turn if not into if and ~=

with the for loop obviously

[runic pecan]

Also contain all of that in if #G.joker.cards > 1 then

Also also, remember to check if the i-th joker is eternal or not. Pretty sure ceremonial dagger code has it.

[wind turtle]

ok

[minor gyro]

do y'all think a joker that disables the boss blind buff would be a rare?

[runic pecan]

Some, or all?

[wind turtle]

i did something and now it works perfectly

[minor gyro]

all

[wind turtle]

i moved destruction into the ending_shop context

[orchid thunder]

How can I mute game/ set game speed with code

[runic pecan]

Because if all, it's just Chicot.

[minor gyro]

oh

forgot

lmao

[runic pecan]

"Chicot, the most forgettable Legendary joker"

[orchid thunder]

I need to store games speed aND sound settings set them to a value then them back to what they were

[timid parrot]

Ah yes, the weakest legendary

[minor gyro]

idk what to do with the Wraith then

[runic pecan]

Have you checked engine/sound_manager.lua ?

[minor gyro]

What if it was a weaker version of Chicot? It does the same thing, but every time a blind is selected, it switches plaecs with a random joker

[runic pecan]

Chicot with a downside? Maybe uncommon.

[minor gyro]

fair

SMODS.Joker {
  key = 'wraith_jk',
  loc_txt = {
    name = 'Wraith',
    text = {
      "While in your deck, disables the boss blind buff."
    }
  },
  unlocked = true,
  discovered = true,
  atlas = 'Jokers',
  blueprint_compat = true,
  rarity = 3,
  pos = { x = 3, y = 0 }, -- Ajuste conforme necessário
  cost = 10,
  config = {},
  add_to_deck = function(self, card, from_debuff)
    -- Desativa o buff do Boss Blind ao adicionar o Joker ao deck
    if G.GAME.blind and G.GAME.blind.boss then
      G.GAME.blind:disable()
      print("[Wraith Joker] Boss Blind buff disabled (added to deck).")
    end
  end,
  remove_from_deck = function(self, card, from_debuff)
    -- Reativa o buff do Boss Blind ao remover o Joker do deck
    if G.GAME.blind and G.GAME.blind.boss then
      G.GAME.blind:set_blind()
      print("[Wraith Joker] Boss Blind buff re-enabled (removed from deck).")
    end
  end
}

It is working, the thing is... If i sell it, the buff does not "come back"...

[zealous glen]

I thought it would be easer to bring the cards back after the victory was calculated

[minor gyro]

I have no idea how to make this work lmao

[zealous glen]

Do what

[minor gyro]

This joker is supposed to make the boss buff go away (and it does indeed go away) but, when i sell it, it should activate the buff again

but it just does not do that

[zealous glen]

The buff?

[minor gyro]

yh

[zealous glen]

What buff?

[minor gyro]

debuff:
"all spades cards do not score", "must play five cards" etc

[minor gyro]

.

just like chicot

[zealous glen]

Ah, debuff

Isn't it just Chicot?

What's the difference?

[minor gyro]

.

[minor gyro]

.

[zealous glen]

Does Chicot reactivate the debuff when sold?

[minor gyro]

i thought so

imma check

[zealous glen]

Chicot Bento

[runic pecan]

That means you'll also need to define a remove_from_deck function for your joker.
nvm, My eyes were confused.

[minor gyro]

yes it does

[zealous glen]

Yeah see what Chicot does when removed

[minor gyro]

imma add to calc

my calc was nil

welp, idk what I'm doing wrong

[zealous glen]

Not what Chico does when calculated

What Chicot does when removed

[minor gyro]

that's the only thing i found in card.lua

[zealous glen]

Are you sure selling Chicot during a boss blind reenables it?

[minor gyro]

OH

yeah well mine still bugs when I sell

[zealous glen]

well does chicot do it

because I think if Chicot doesn't then you can't do it

[minor gyro]

it does not

it's fine this way

[zealous glen]

Maybe it's possible to hardcode it for vanilla Blinds but I'm not sure there's a general method to do it

[minor gyro]

that's the bug:

[zealous glen]

remove the remove_from_deck

[minor gyro]

it worked! thanks

it was kinda obvious lmao

[idle estuary]

Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me find the lua code to a card like ceremonial dagger or hologram joker. I am making a joker that gains Xmult every time a joker is destroyed (it itself is not destroying jokers)

[frank flint]

WIP

[sturdy compass]

I assume you have access to source?

If yes, open card.lua and ctrl + f to search for either of the jokers you just mentioned

[idle estuary]

no thats sorta what I was asking about im not exactly sure how to find the source code

[sturdy compass]

I see

So you have Lovely/Steamodded installed, correct?

[minor gyro]

that's the file ur looking for

[idle estuary]

yes

[sturdy compass]

go to the lovely folder in mods/ and open the dump folder. That's what you should be looking for

[idle estuary]

OH, I see thank you

[minor gyro]

Hey, how do I get a pos of a joker?

if context.setting_blind then
      local valid_jokers = {}
      for i=1, #G.jokers.cards do
        if G.jokers.cards[1] ~= self and (G.jokers[i].area and G.jokers.cards[1].area == G.jokers) then
          valid_jokers[#valid_jokers + 1] = G.jokers.cards
        end
      end

I think that should work to calc the number of jokers... but i want to switch pos with the self joker and 1 random other

if #valid_jokers > 0 then

then idk what the game uses so i can check the pos, chose a random, etc

[zealous glen]

check out Paperback (@tepid crow)

because there's no built-in functionality for that

[idle estuary]

okay thank you

[tepid crow]

Why did I get tagged 👀

[white totem]

how much knowledge of lua do i need to add say a single custom joker

do i need 2 be some kind of wizard

[zealous glen]

you've explained to me how you did it in Paperback

[zealous glen]

no

even I could do it

[white totem]

okay

[tepid crow]

Ah 👍🏻

[minor gyro]

Imma go ride a bike, if some1 help me out feel free to tag me so I see

[distant dirge]

Does anyone know a tutorial on modding balatro becasue I can find any

[analog pilot]

#1307744498360520805

also the steamodded documentation is good for figuring stuff out

[frosty dock]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki ^

[plain apex]

how do mods do these config tabs in the mod list?

i've made a config.lua file but idk how to make a config tab that shows it in the mod list

[frosty dock]

See https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Mod-functions and https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/UI-Guide

[wintry solar]

phwoar what a beautiful config menu

[wise narwhal]

how would i go about refreshing my smods config tab? ive already set it up so i have a button that changes the nodes inside the config tab, but the changes only apply after leaving and re entering the menu

[rough furnace]

Kid named lovely module. DebugPlus doesn't pollute any globals and has a public api. https://github.com/WilsontheWolf/DebugPlus/blob/master/docs/dev.md#api-basics

[viscid field]

declaring something in the name of your mod counts as pollution because I seriously doubt you'd check if that name was already taken

[rough furnace]

okay so how do you solve it?

[viscid field]

exports table gets recorded. Then aml.require()

aml checks for mod id duplication and errors out in that case

[rough furnace]

so you still have a name you need to check

[viscid field]

nope; aml is not in global scope of the game

aml is only in the global scope of the mod code, which is isolated

[rough furnace]

sure but your require still needs to check for conflicts in names

[viscid field]

more like they're checked when they're loaded(which happens regardless of require) but yes, the check happens once.

[rough furnace]

so if lovely paniced if more than one mod had the same require it would also be equivalent in making sure there isn;t conflicts

[tender gale]

how do i check if a card has a certain enhancement? I want to make a Joker that retriggers wild cards twice

[blissful dagger]

Is there an easy way to have enhanced cards destroy themselves like how Joker cards can destroy playing cards? I can't seem to figure out how to destroy them that allows for triggering jokers that trigger when cards are destroyed

[tepid crow]

see #💻・modding-dev message

[tender gale]

i managed to do it with a context actally lol

[humble gale]

Im trying to make a joker that opens the shop after skipping the blind. How would i make is so the big blind select isnt there

[tender gale]

thanks though

[minor gyro]

    if context.setting_blind then
      local valid_jokers = {}
      for i=1, #G.jokers.cards do
        if G.jokers.cards[1] ~= self and (G.jokers[i].area and G.jokers.cards[1].area == G.jokers) then
          valid_jokers[#valid_jokers + 1] = G.jokers.cards
        end
      end

      if #valid_jokers > 0 then
        local other_joker = pseudorandom_element(valid_jokers, pseudoseed('wraith_swap'))
        local temp_pos = { x = self.pos.x, y = self.pos.y }
        self.pos.x, self.pos.y = other_joker.pos.x, other_joker.pos.y
        other_joker.pos.x, other_joker.pos.y = temp_pos.x, temp_pos.y
        print("[Wraith Joker] Swapped places with Joker: " .. (other_joker.loc_txt and other_joker.loc_txt.name or "Unknown"))
      else
        print("[Wraith Joker] No valid Joker found to swap positions.")
      end
    end

Idk how to get a pos for other jokers, and I cannot find any git or doc talking about that... Any ideas?

[tender gale]

I only started getting this error after changing to bettercalc

[wintry solar]

what are you swapping the positions for? you can just drag them around

[minor gyro]

It's a nerfed Chicot. It disables the boss debuff but swithces places randomly with other cards

[wintry solar]

hows that a downside?

[minor gyro]

Well, if u got blueprint or something it can be a mess

[wintry solar]

you can just mover them back though?

[minor gyro]

and it would suck to rearrange the cards every time

[minor gyro]

ik

I just don't want it to be the same as Chico but it makes sense with the ghost that it's based on (Phasmophobia mod)

[wintry solar]

But it is just chicot

[minor gyro]

idc bro 😭 I just want to know how to make a chicot then

that moves

[tender gale]

im going back to old smods

[wintry solar]

whats at that line?

[tender gale]

Only started happening when I tested this joker on new calc

works fine on old calc

it even had the same error after I removed juice_up so something weird is happening

[wintry solar]

have you got the no juice up crash?

[tender gale]

Juice up nil method or something

[wintry solar]

oh

its the return

remove card = self

[tender gale]

oh ok

thanks

[minor gyro]

what if card = card? That crash happened to me and that solved it

[wintry solar]

you dont need card = anything in new calc

[tender gale]

Alright, thanks for the heads up, you saved me half an hour of errors since there are like ten card = card in my code

[wintry solar]

card = card won't crash

it's just not necessary

[minor gyro]

i downloaded smods 2 days ago, how do I know if I'm on old or new calc?

[tepid crow]

I mean sometimes you do (mostly in context.individual in my experience)

[tepid crow]

If your version is 1304 or lower/older, it's old-calc. Otherwise, it's new-calc.

[minor gyro]

1321d

so I'm newcalc

yeeeh

[tepid crow]

yea

[wintry solar]

I think the only use of it is to juice the non-scoring card (which would be useful in individual contexts)

[tepid crow]

yeah basically juices the joker on playing card score

[wintry solar]

can use juice_card for that too

[tepid crow]

potato tomato

[silver turret]

hi how would i go about adding a font to the game? i don't understand the documentation is asking me for

[violet void]

I am trying to destroy some cards held in hand and after checking the SMODS function it should be entering G.hand.cards right? But its not entering in my if

[frosty dock]

there's a bit of wonkiness there, I opted not to use destroying_card for areas other than G.play because it would break existing code including vanilla

you should use context.destroy_card

[orchid thunder]

why

i just need to send somethign though calculate for the love of god

[humble gale]

here is the code for the joker

if context.skip_blind then
    --print("ran")
    G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
         trigger = "after",
         func = function()
            G.STATE = G.STATES.SHOP
            G.STATE_COMPLETE = false
         return true
      end,
   }))
end

[violet void]

It works now, thanks!

[sturdy compass]

Would it be possible to make items in the info_queue variable? I have this implementation right now but it's trying to find .copied_key in P_CENTERS which obv doesn't exist

[frosty dock]

G.P_CENTERS[copied_key]

why is the third arg center

[sturdy compass]

The tutorial that got me into this used center there

[frosty dock]

that's just... bad

it's a Card, so it should be named card

[sturdy compass]

oh joy

[humble gale]

well the base class name is center so it could go either way

[frosty dock]

nah

Center refers to a prototype for a card

that is what self is here

[sturdy compass]

Hey man don't shoot the trainee

[frosty dock]

just making clear what the difference is

[hardy viper]

yeah we use pipe bombs here

get the guns out

[frosty dock]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-undertale-pipebomb-mailbox-ive-put-gif-23145018

[sturdy compass]

https://tenor.com/view/there-is-a-zip-bomb-in-your-mailbox-zip-bomb-pipe-bomb-there-is-a-pipe-bomb-in-your-mailbox-gif-22623061

[wintry solar]

center in loc_vars is a cryptid thing, right?

[frosty dock]

cryptid does do that

[sturdy compass]

Probs where the tutorial picked that up then

[minor gyro]

dumb question here, how do I check if a card played is a lucky card?

[frosty dock]

if SMODS.has_enhancement(insert_card_here, 'm_lucky') then
-# this is the smods version that accounts for quantum enhancements and not what the base game would use without smods

[minor gyro]

I'll try that. Brb

[random sleet]

i should make a joker that makes grass cards also count as glass cards and vice versa

[frosty dock]

Lmao

G[rl]ass card

[sturdy compass]

Grass Cards:
X2 Mult if outside

[random sleet]

nah they gain chips while held in hand
you can watch grass grow in my mod

[sturdy compass]

damn I wanted to watch paint dry tho

[random sleet]

oh no wait there's a problem with this

smods does this....

wiping out the gained chips from the quantum Grass card :/

[ionic verge]

how does antimatter always show as negative even in the collection?

[sturdy compass]

Changed where the card reference is being stored from the joker config to a G.GAME var since there shouldn't be a case where multiple Bootlegs don't share a target. How would I make that variable save so it doesn't break on reload?

[ionic verge]

i want to have a joker do that

[hidden timber]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1332136408923639910

[random sleet]

good luck

[hidden timber]

Thank you

[random sleet]

sorry i meant good luck scamming people

[hidden timber]

Thanks

Because 100$ is a lot for scamming

[sturdy compass]

m

[ivory coral]

hello chat, i'm trying to make a deck texture pack, and it works mostly fine, except that if high contrast cards is enabled then the 2-10 cards use the normal HC textures instead of the modded ones, any idea what the problem could be? J-A are replaced by the modded ones just fine, its just 2-10 that aren't, and they all work correctly on LC.

    key = atlas_key..'_lc',
    px = 71,
    py = 95,
    path = atlas_path,
    prefix_config = {key = false},
}

if atlas_path_hc then
    SMODS.Atlas{  
        key = atlas_key..'_hc',
        px = 71,
        py = 95,
        path = atlas_path_hc,
        prefix_config = {key = false},
    }
end

for _, suit in ipairs(suits) do
    SMODS.DeckSkin{
        key = suit.."_skin",
        suit = suit:gsub("^%l", string.upper),
        ranks = ranks,
        lc_atlas = atlas_key..'_lc',
        hc_atlas = (atlas_path_hc and atlas_key..'_hc') or atlas_key..'_lc',
        loc_txt = {
            ['en-us'] = description
        },
        posStyle = 'deck'
    }
end```
if it helps

[tall cradle]

Does anyone know how to create a deck with the latest Steammodded alpha?

[sturdy compass]

Here's the documentation for creating decks if that helps https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/SMODS.Back

[tall cradle]

great wiki image, thanks

[sturdy compass]

thank you john smods

[random sleet]

(as a reminder, you can stop links from embedding by enclosing them in <angle brackets>)

[sturdy compass]

I'm aware

[random sleet]

cat

[sturdy compass]

Why would I ever want that to not embed

[random sleet]

i offer no further resistance

[tall cradle]

Are there any developer utilities for balatro modding other than making warnings shut up by doing something along these linesif not SMODS then SMODS = {} end

[tepid crow]

do you mean in your code editor?

[tall cradle]

Yeah

[dull saddle]

there might be general lua ones?

[tall cradle]

I already use general lua ones, I just want to see if there are any other tools specifically for balatro

[minor gyro]

fr tho

I just consider the warning as friends at this point

[tepid crow]

I think @edgy reef was working on this? Can't find a repo for it or anything htough

[edgy reef]

If you're talking about warns as in "Lua diagnostics" then there's already built-in ways of handling most warns (adding workspaces specifically).

Unfortunately this doesn't work for everything because Lua assumed statically-typed code and Steamodded / Balatro source code are more dynamic typing.

I can get some typing and autocomplete support for SMODS but that only goes so far.

[ionic verge]

anyone know?

[wintry solar]

Do you want a joker to always have the negative shader?

[ionic verge]

pretty much

its always gonna spawn as negative (cant be bought) but i also want it to look negative in the collection

[zealous glen]

It can just be Negative in the collection

set_ability

and make it give itself the Negative edition

[wintry solar]

draw = function(self, card, layer)
  card.children.center:draw_shader(‘negative’, nil, card.ARGS.send_to_shader)
end```

[ionic verge]

aint that a thing you do in calculate though?

the set ability thing

[wintry solar]

This will make it always have the shader applied

[zealous glen]

No, it's a different method

[wintry solar]

That way you don’t need to force the edition (unless you want to ofc)

[zealous glen]

I mean he said he wanted to

[ionic verge]

hmm
happened when i tried to navigate to it in the collection

[wintry solar]

Huh

[ionic verge]

(not in calcuate or anything, just in the SMODS.Joker for it)

which i guess is obvious from the calculate right under it

[zealous glen]

Try removing draw and using set_ability

set_ability used to have always having an Edition as example

[wintry solar]

That should 100% work

[wintry solar]

I was literally writing code that did this earlier, let me find it

[ionic verge]

like this?

[zealous glen]

no

set_ability = function…

and inside you set the edition

[ionic verge]

like in the function's () ?

[wintry solar]

draw = function(self, card, layer)
        card.children.center:draw_shader('negative',nil, card.ARGS.send_to_shader)
    end

this 100% works

[zealous glen]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/SMODS.Joker

[wintry solar]

maybe I mobile typed it wrong before

[tender gale]

is +1 discard per round and gain +3 chips when using a discard balanced for a vanilla rare joker

[zealous glen]

so set_ability = function(???) card:set_edition('e_negative', ???) end

[zealous glen]

seems weak

[ionic verge]

honestly might be more chips

+5 could work

[zealous glen]

I guess

[ionic verge]

with 5 discards thats +25chips scaling

[tender gale]

+5 was what I was thinking

[ionic verge]

wee joker can do better with a little bit of work

[ionic verge]

thanks!

[wintry solar]

I have no idea why the version I typed on mobile didn't work 🤣

it's exactly the same, right?

oh is it the '?

[zealous glen]

Perhaps

they look different

[ionic verge]

yeah looks like it
thanks mobile

[zealous glen]

well, if you want it to actually always have the negative edition then that wasn't necessary ;P

[ionic verge]

actually kinda is bc i want it to show in collection as negative too

[zealous glen]

again

[tender gale]

I believe it's just supposed to look negative

[wintry solar]

the set ability stuff works in collection too

[zealous glen]

it can have the Negative edition in the collection

[ionic verge]

mhm

[zealous glen]

set_ability is called whenever the card is created

[wintry solar]

but now you can make it a different edition 😛

[ionic verge]

ok how'd you do that

[zealous glen]

when you get it in-game, in the collection, when you load a run

[ionic verge]

i mean yeah

[zealous glen]

like this

[ionic verge]

do i need the question marks?

or what do i replace with them

[zealous glen]

you need to change the questions marks

idk look at the wiki

I linked it up above

[tender gale]

what if it instead gain +3 chips when a 3, or 9 is discarded

It has something to do with 3s

[ionic verge]

yeah i like that

can scale much higher in a much more organic way

[sturdy compass]

Does anybody know how I could get my custom G.GAME variables to save?

[tender gale]

Easy enough change to code, too

[sudden dew]

They should save by default, unless those variables are tables in which Balatro helpfully wipes them out when you exit a run

If you're specifically trying to save cards, you could consider putting them in a hidden cardarea, because the game won't wipe out cards if they're in a cardarea

[tender gale]

Any ideas how to fix? crashes when I try to testit

[dull saddle]

missing a comma after the second color = G.C.Chips

[tepid crow]

well that wouldn't fix it

[dull saddle]

idk thats what the problem was for me when i was having a simular crash is all

[wintry solar]

change your joker_main return to just chips = card.ability.extra.chips

[tepid crow]

on the other hand I can't really spot the issue

[tender gale]

I think the new calc doesn't like get_id()

[tepid crow]

oh probably missing a card argument key (but try eremel's solution)

[tender gale]

I believe its an error with that

[wintry solar]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/calculate_functions#step-3-returning-effects see here for what you should return

[tender gale]

No the return is fine, but I've gotten a similar error every time I've tried to get id of a card that's not played

[wintry solar]

it's not

[tepid crow]

I'm pretty sure it has to do with one of your returns, not with :get_id

[wintry solar]

it is 100% the second return that uses chip_mod

[tender gale]

I changed it and i got the same error

[runic pecan]

Is G.P_CENTERS.c_earth equivalent to G.P_CENTERS['c_earth']?

[carmine burrow]

i think so

[wintry solar]

try throwing a message_card = card in the top return then

it seems the discard context doesn't correctly auto select the cards 🤔

[tepid crow]

uh oh

[tender gale]

That helped, thanks

[wintry solar]

I have no idea why it wouldn't do that though

wtf

[tepid crow]

hyperx is running a slightly outdated version of smods

[wintry solar]

it doesn't work for me either

[tepid crow]

it doesn't crash or it doesn't work and therefor crashes?

[wintry solar]

it crashes

says it doesn't have a card to display the message on

but the way the system works is that it's guaranteed to have a card

[tepid crow]

oop

[wintry solar]

oh wait

I see why

[tender gale]

wdym, I downloaded the newest

[tepid crow]

well we can both be right

if you downloaded newest 2 days ago, it is no longer latest after an update

(current latest is 1323b)

[minor gyro]

Why Does it not work? I just want to make it loose 25 instead of gaining

[tepid crow]

try lowercase m_lucky

[minor gyro]

oh

didn't see

lmao

[tepid crow]

also, I think your first return can be simplified to this?

return {
    chips = card.ability.extra.chips
}

[minor gyro]

tbh I have NO idea what message does

I just code as it is in other jokers

[tepid crow]

that's the part that... makes the message

the actual pop-up

[minor gyro]

ohhh

lmao

but wouldn't it show 25? instead of -25

[wintry solar]

no

the first one is your scoring chips

[tepid crow]

I was talking about your first return

[minor gyro]

well, it says "ERROR"
I don't think thats that I want

[tepid crow]

really???

[minor gyro]

the loc_txt???

i replaced the calc return

[tepid crow]

the first return in calculate yes

don't change anything in loc_txt or loc_vars lol

[minor gyro]

yh it just gives error

[tepid crow]

show the new version of your code

[minor gyro]

both with and without the message it gives the error

but I'll try again

[tepid crow]

is that even a new screenshot? 🤔

[minor gyro]

maybe I forgot the coma

[wintry solar]

chips = card.ability.extra.chips...

[minor gyro]

yup

[tepid crow]

I'm so confused what did you change 😭

[minor gyro]

I changed the message and then control z (didnt change nothing hahaha)

[tepid crow]

...

why would I want a screenshot of that 😭

[minor gyro]

I sent what u asked lmao

[minor gyro]

LMAOOOOO

[wintry solar]

but you didnt do the change he told you to do?

[minor gyro]

I changed, but nothing changed.

[tepid crow]

Alright, one more time. Change the

return {
    chip_mod = ...,
    message = ...
}```
into
```lua
return {
    chips = card.ability.extra.chips
}

[minor gyro]

wdym? chip_mod works fine

oh.

[tepid crow]

I'm just trying to use the easier to read, easier to change, and smaller in size formatting

[minor gyro]

I didn't see that u changed that when u talked about the message.

My fault

[wintry solar]

chip_mod requires you to define your message, chips doesn't

[tepid crow]

ah

[minor gyro]

still ERROR

[minor gyro]

hm

[tepid crow]

what version of smods do you have? 🤔

[minor gyro]

1314 i think

new calc

[tepid crow]

phew

alright try updating it

[minor gyro]

1321d

that's the veresion I have

1.0.0~ALPHA-1321d-STEAMODDED

[tepid crow]

hmm 🤔

I don't think anything got fixed in the meantime

can you try updating anyway?

[wintry solar]

where is it saying error?

[minor gyro]

on top of the card

[wintry solar]

which card

[minor gyro]

lucky

the one that scores

and

-25

[wintry solar]

that's your bottom return

[minor gyro]

etc

[wintry solar]

the top return is the chips the joker gives

[tepid crow]

that's the bottom return 😭

[minor gyro]

forgor

[tepid crow]

I thought you were talking about the top return still lol

[minor gyro]

forgot it doesn't need card = card too

[tepid crow]

good catch by eremel

[minor gyro]

my bad 😭

[tepid crow]

I'm assuming k_downgrade just isn't defined then?

[minor gyro]

👍

[tepid crow]

do you know how to define that?

[minor gyro]

no... but the thing is, I'm mainly learning by the ExampleJokersMod git, and there he uses this, and it's the only time he uses 'k_duplicated_ex'

but there's that.

[wintry solar]

okay I think I fixed the missing card thing

that example nees updating tbh

[minor gyro]

ok I fixed with message = localize { type = 'variable', key = 'a_chips', vars = { card.ability.extra.chips } }, but it shows +25

[runic pecan]

What is the default value of blueprint_compat right now? I thought it was true yet just found out smods doc says false moments ago so I guess it'd be false but I want to make sure before making huge change to my mod.

[minor gyro]

It was false last time i tested it

[wintry solar]

false is the default

[tepid crow]

code says false

[crisp coral]

false

[runic pecan]

🆗

Thank you all

[tepid crow]

in case you weren't sure yet, I think it's false

[tepid crow]

why are you using card.ability.extra.chips instead of .chip_loss?

[minor gyro]

i tried both ways, but since I'm a moron i'll try again

[tepid crow]

that's alright I can be a moron too

[minor gyro]

nop

still 25

i defined 25 here, so if i show chip loss it would show +25 no?

[wintry solar]

what do you want the message to show?

[minor gyro]

-25, since :
card.ability.extra.chips = card.ability.extra.chips - card.ability.extra.chip_loss

[tepid crow]

oh see I'm a moron

[minor gyro]

than we

[tepid crow]

try -card.ability.extra.chip_loss in the localization?

[wintry solar]

you want the key to be a_chips_minus too iirc

[minor gyro]

i thought of that but since it showed a var i dindn't think it was possible 😭

[tepid crow]

ooh that exists? that might just work without doing the -

[minor gyro]

iit is +-25 now 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[tepid crow]

😭

try eremel's version

[lament agate]

I'm trying to mod my first ever joker, there's 5 of them exactly

how do i add assets

[minor gyro]

fire

it works

perfect

if i change context.individual and context.other_card to context.poker_hands would it count only the played cards?

[wintry solar]

add and context.cardarea == G.play

[minor gyro]

k

if context.individual and context.other_card and SMODS.has_enhancement(context.other_card, 'm_lucky') and context.cardarea == G.play and not context.blueprint then

that's a big if

[lament agate]

so my initial idea was:
When blind is selected,
sets money to $0
This joker gains X0.05
Mult per $1 lost
(Currently X1 Mult)

i know how to mod the xmult in

but i dont know how to set the money to 0 each blind selected

[iron plover]

how would you make a deck using the ink and colors custom suits?

i just had a card replacing deck in mind and wanted to make it

[sturdy compass]

No table saving huh. How helpful :/

[cerulean rose]

check how wraith sets money to 0

[lament agate]

is there any lua that has wraith in it

cant find it in moddedjoker

[cerulean rose]

balatro source

extract balatro.exe as a zip

[lament agate]

is it in card.lua?

[cerulean rose]

yeah

also btw in vscode on the sidebar you can search entire folders

[lament agate]

ah right

i forgot about that

this?

[cerulean rose]

yup

[lament agate]

i find the set 0$ thing

but i dont see selected blind thing

[cerulean rose]

wraith is on use

use context.setting_blind for on blind selected

[lament agate]

got it

[weak gate]

Hi folks, how do I check if the card I'm selling is a planet?

[cerulean rose]

set property

[lament agate]

wait hold on

whats the full code for it

https://www.balaui.dev im using this and then ill mod the Atlas after

[weak brook]

https://imgur.com/a/1pcdBUZ

tetris joker :)

[minor gyro]

holy

How many hours have u put on this?

[weak brook]

you know its weird idk how i did this, it took me like a day of intense research and quick bug fixing

but ive had some of the foundation already layed out by some other modders

[minor gyro]

not really a dev question, but I need some ideas for the Jinn joker...
-# Phasmophobia ghost

[weak gate]

Ah, this is wrong because card.set will tell this joker's set, not the planet sold. How to access the card being sold?

calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.selling_card and card.set == 'Planet' and not context.blueprint then
            self.ability.extra.Xmult = self.ability.extra.Xmult + self.ability.extra.Xmult_gain
            return {
                message = 'Conquered!',
                colour = G.C.CHIPS,
                card = card
              }
        end
        --the part of applying the xmult is working
    end```

[weak gate]

does something great when you have a spectral card in the consumables, is bad when you don't

[minor gyro]

great idea

i thought of doing something with spectral cuz of the lightning but never came across this

[tight thistle]

hello! i have an inquiry, is there a way for events to play in sequence, without allowing other events to play inbetween until theyre all finished? here the regular game events cut into the time heathcliff is supposed to be losing his mind, and one of the text boxes is completely missing because of it

this also happens if heathcliff's events are set to
blocking = false

[crisp coral]

change the trigger to before