💻・modding-dev

[zealous glen]

How so

[faint yacht]

...do I need to add that too for the one Joker I have that retriggers other Jokers?

[random sleet]

because when someone else enables the context for the deck and someone's code doesn't expect it (they never tested it with the deck context enabled after all, they might not even know it exists), it'll wrongly calculate there

[zealous glen]

Yes

[violet void]

Yes

[zealous glen]

Most contexts should be verified positively rather than negatively IMO

[random sleet]

yes but people are stubborn

[zealous glen]

Skill issue

/j

[random sleet]

also i still think joker individual checks are clunky and weird

[zealous glen]

I think this is better because it incurs less overhead when not needed

[random sleet]

nonono like the context.individual

cuz you still have to specify not context.repetition right

[zealous glen]

Idk

But I meant just

[random sleet]

and also not context.end_of_round

[zealous glen]

Iterating for retriggers and the deck and discards

[random sleet]

the crux of the issue is still the same, people will dev on slightly different versions of steamodded and things will break anyway when players actually put things together

[zealous glen]

I think that’s the developers’ fault 🤔

[random sleet]

it doesn't actually solve the problem it's trying to solve

like just outright

[zealous glen]

The problem it’s trying to solve is overhead

[violet void]

TheAutumnCircus is your mod ID right?

[zealous glen]

So if a mod doesn’t use the feature it does have less overhead

[violet void]

I added that to my main with my id and it crashes, nice

[random sleet]

i guess? but maybe there should be some more obvious "hey if you're developing you might want to know about this thing"

[zealous glen]

That’s true about a lot of things Steamodded

[random sleet]

sorry that's a global table i put my mod object into

[zealous glen]

SMODS.current_mod

[random sleet]

but this is literally "if you're developing you should turn on all the options right now"

[zealous glen]

Maybe it’s a function

[zealous glen]

How so?

[random sleet]

so that you know if your code fundamentally breaks if those options are enabled?

[wild patrol]

@frosty dock so I wanna see if I can make a custom card if I do a SMODS.Suit does that mean I can use this to make a custom deck card?

[random sleet]

and so that you can actually use the features that exist, like how nobody's joker retriggers work anymore all of a sudden

[zealous glen]

I mean, I think either the dev can fix it afterwards or make it incompatible

The problem of discovery already existed and will continue to exist

[violet void]

My retrigger joker is alive again, ty

[storm kraken]

is this worthy of legendary

[zealous glen]

It’s worth of being in Cryptid probably

[storm kraken]

😭

[random sleet]

sorry ill just go back to making my voucher

[violet void]

Yeah true, for example how did you get to know it became an optional feature

[zealous glen]

No need to apologize

I’m just unconvinced

But that doesn’t mean either of us is right or wrong

[zealous glen]

Either by paying attention to updates or by seeing something break

Steamodded isn’t released for a reason

If people want to dev for a stable version they can go back to 0.9.8 ;P

[violet void]

Was it mentioned in "Discussions"? If so do you have a link

[zealous glen]

It was mentioned in this channel and IIRC also the Steamodded thread

It’s probably also in a commit

If it stopped working for you it’s because you updated :<

[violet void]

Yes I did update, but for something like this a Pin would've been appropriate

[crisp coral]

"""""stable"""""

[zealous glen]

What pin

[violet void]

pinning a message of the change in the thread

[zealous glen]

Steamodded devs can’t do that

Only mods can

And mods have better things to do usually

[violet void]

Sad

[zealous glen]

You can request them pin messages to mod threads

But it’s only a request

[zealous glen]

I’m not sure at what else to say for people who complain about breaking changes in an unreleased, alpha, in-development, crowdsourced API

[upper fern]

If a mod is ready for others to play what's the best way to advertise it?

[violet void]

A forum thread I suppose

[wintry solar]

The main reason for toggling them off by default is they add a lot of overhead in calculation times if they aren’t being used

[faint yacht]

So, if I have a custom deck and/or I use discard-related contexts, I should "re-enable" them back?

[wintry solar]

If you need to run calculations on cards in your deck or cards you have already discarded

[faint yacht]

That'd affect context.remove_playing_cards too?

[zealous glen]

I still would like the option to be set by context :<

[wintry solar]

No

[zealous glen]

Right now I only need one context so I might stick to my homemade solution

[violet void]

I have only 1 joker that retriggers Jokers and no custom deck/discard related jokers

Do I keep it on all the time or is the optimal thing to do enable it when the joker is equipped or something

[faint yacht]

...as I have a Spectral card that destroys cards in the deck and a Joker that reads from any destroyed card on top of a retriggering Joker...

return {
    cardareas.deck = true,
    retrigger_joker = true
  }

?

[violet void]

huh what is cardarea.deck optional too

[faint yacht]

G.deck and G.discard...

[zealous glen]

I imagine it works on load

Due to patching

But idk

[frosty dock]

cardareas = { deck = true }

[random sleet]

idk why the tooltips are getting nil but

[frosty dock]

you can only set it on load through the mod field, but you could technically set or unset it later on SMODS.optional_features directly

[zealous glen]

Also I’m not sure you should manipulate it

If another mod also sets it to true, then what?

[frosty dock]

setting is fine but unsetting can break other mods

[zealous glen]

What if two mods are trying to be quirky and turn it on and off?

[violet void]

https://tenor.com/view/confusion-confused-look-questions-why-why-me-gif-17660966

I'll keep it to true

[wintry solar]

You can do it the quirky way if you store what it was previously

[random sleet]

you could just toggle it on when it becomes relevant, then just leave it on after that; at least it's not on before it's needed, though after remains

[zealous glen]

What if two mods do that

[random sleet]

or just like leave it on

[zealous glen]

But they change it in ABAB

so when A changes back B expects it to be in a different state?

[wintry solar]

Oh true

[zealous glen]

At best you could have a counter

As in, Steamodded could

Of how many mods want it

But that’s basically a listener system

Which I suspect is a more efficient form of handling calculation

[violet void]

Oh what I meant before was adding Negative to the wheel's edition pool

[faint yacht]

...wait, what's the full thing again? Is it just SMODS.optional_features or do I need to do it from SMODS.current_mod?

[random sleet]

idk but here's cirno because i decided to try to make a pokermon addon

(unrelated to the wheel of wheel of fortune)

[zealous glen]

Cute art!

[violet void]

    return {
        retrigger_joker = true,
    }
end```

[random sleet]

thanks its not mine

(touhoumon art is by HemoglobinA1C (fan use permitted))

[zealous glen]

Clearly you stoled forked it

[faint yacht]

I've been using togabalatro = SMODS.current_mod for a while, so, I guess it becomes

togabalatro.optional_features = function()
    return {
        cardareas = { deck = true },
        retrigger_joker = true
    }
end

[random sleet]

oh whoops advent cirno has the wrong text

[zealous glen]

Is that a Mega Man reference

[random sleet]

should be "Played 9s become Steel Cards and give +9 Mult per ..." without the retrigger thing from Technical

[random sleet]

?

which part

[zealous glen]

Advent

[random sleet]

no there's a touhou fan comic series thing called Advent Cirno or something to that effect where it's basically the plot of Final Fantasy VII retold with Touhou characters

[crisp coral]

Advent? is that a Library of Ruina reference??

[random sleet]

touhoumon has the versions of the characters from that comic as special evolutions

[zealous glen]

Icy

[random sleet]

yes i know way too much niche trivia about this thing hi

[zealous glen]

-# get it. “I see.” Haha.

[random sleet]

i dont could you please explain

[zealous glen]

That seems like a reasonable to low amount of trivia

[crisp coral]

hi autumn ur amazing

[random sleet]

(before our yapping overrides this, yes this looks correct to me)

[proven tide]

New to this, just want to replace a few sounds and have no idea how to go about it.👀

SMODS.Sound({
    key = 'ambientFire1',
    path = 'ambientFire1.ogg'
})
SMODS.Sound({
    key = 'ambientFire2',
    path = 'ambientFire2.ogg'
})
SMODS.Sound({
    key = 'ambientFire3',
    path = 'ambientFire3.ogg'
})
local keys = {
    'ambientFire1',
    'ambientFire2',
    'ambientFire3',
}```
I already added the metadata.👍

[zealous glen]

“Icy” is homophonic to “I see”; Cirno has ice powers

I guess not “homophonic”

Just close

[random sleet]

why is icy homophobic

[zealous glen]

Might depend on pronunciation

[random sleet]

what no stop ew

[zealous glen]

I agree with her

You’re amazing, Autumn!

[zealous glen]

Try seeing how L Corp does it

[faint yacht]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/SMODS.Sound#api-documentation-smodssound See replace.

[wild patrol]

well I found out what happens when u combine tarot and jokers cards into a pack

u can't use the tarot card lol

unless i'm missing something

    key = 'PotGreed', --joker key
    set = 'Tarot',
    loc_txt = { -- local text
        name = 'Pot Of Greed',
        text = {
            'Draw 2 cards from your Deck.'    
        },
    },
    atlas = 'Jokers', --atlas' key
    cost = 10, --cost
    unlocked = true, --where it is unlocked or not: if true, 
    discovered = true, --whether or not it starts discovered
    pools = { TCG_Yugioh = true },
    pos = {x = 0, y = 0}, --position in atlas, starts at 0, scales by the atlas' card size (px and py): {x = 1, y = 0} would mean the sprite is 71 pixels to the right
    config = { 
      extra = {
        card_limit = 3 --configurable value
      } 
    },
    use = function(self, card, area, copier)
        G.FUNCS.draw_from_deck_to_hand(2)
    end,
})```

[proven tide]

Tried this, but made the game crash.

SMODS.Sound({
    key = 'ambientFire1',
    path = 'ambientFire1.ogg'
    replace = 'ambientFire1'
})
SMODS.Sound({
    key = 'ambientFire2',
    path = 'ambientFire2.ogg'
    replace = 'ambientFire2'
})
SMODS.Sound({
    key = 'ambientFire3',
    path = 'ambientFire3.ogg'
    replace = 'ambientFire3'
})
local keys = {
    'ambientFire1',
    'ambientFire2',
    'ambientFire3',
}

Idk how "key" works, or if there might be a list.

[wild patrol]

key is basically a identifier I think?

[wild patrol]

can't use it or add it to the tarot slot

[proven tide]

Fixed the crash (forgot to add commas), but it still plays the vanilla sound effects.

[wild patrol]

Also how do I stop the custom booster pack from making copies of multi 4 joker.cards

They can't even be selected

[violet void]

Thats a fallback Joker, it means your pack doesnt have a pool of jokers afaik

[wild patrol]

Hmm

Is there any way to stop it

[random sleet]

make more jokers

[zealous glen]

They’re spreading

[wild patrol]

Well trying to make a combination pack

That has custom jokers and tarots

Not sure if it's even possible

[zealous glen]

You need to create a custom pool IIRC

[wild patrol]

Isn't that what SMOD.Booster is?

[zealous glen]

Not that I’m aware of

[vagrant cedar]

I officially have 15 working albums, probably leaving it at this

Genuine question

[wild patrol]

So how does one go about making a custom pool

[vagrant cedar]

Am I able to release this Joker or will I get banned

[wild patrol]

[vagrant cedar]

Oh shit man good luck

That one took me forever and I still don't know what I'm doing with it

[autumn geode]

is there a way to make it so a joker starts debuffed even in the shop and only works when you get a different joker in your jokers?

[wild patrol]

I have no idea where to start

I just need one that can combine jokers and tarots

so I can have yugioh cards that can focus as effects similar to jokers and tarots that are like a quick 1 time effect

[zealous glen]

I think a table of options should work

Now sure if anything else is required

[wild patrol]

I don't know what any of this means

all I know code go brrr

[zealous glen]

{}

[violet void]

balanced

[wild patrol]

if ur talking kind = { Tarot, Jokers },

I already tried that

[zealous glen]

No

I’m talking a table of options

Then having it pull from that table

[random sleet]

oh true i should have it say

[wild patrol]

What's like the part of the wiki that explains that

[zealous glen]

I don’t think it exists

[mystic river]

a whole lot of the wiki isn't filled out yet, yeah

[zealous glen]

There’s not even anything to fill if it’s not natively supported

Although it could be helpful

[proven tide]

Lol, okay, it works (replaced "crumple1" as a test), but it treats "ambientFire" 1, 2, and 3 as a special case???

[vagrant cedar]

bruh

[storm kraken]

SMODS.Joker {
  key = 'kubebows',
  rarity = 1,
  cost = 4,
  atlas = "kubebow",
  pos = { x = 0 , y = 0},
  config = {  extra = { mult_gain = 7, mult = 0, sevens = 0 } },
  loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
    return { vars = {
        card.ability.extra.mult, card.ability.extra.sevens, card.ability.extra.mult_gain
    } }
  end,
  loc_txt = {
  name = 'Kubebow',
  text = {
  'Gains {C:mult}+#3#{} mult',
  'every {C:attention}seven{} scored.',
  '{S:0.7}Currently {C:mult}+#1#{} mult.'
  },
  },
  calculate = function (self, card, context)
    if context.scoring_hand and context.cardarea == G.play and context.other_card:get_id() == 7 then
      card.ability.extra.sevens = card.ability.extra.sevens + 1
      card.ability.extra.mult = card.ability.extra.mult_gain * card.ability.extra.sevens
      end
      return {
        mult_mod = card.ability.extra.mult,
        message = "+#1#",
        colour = G.C.MULT
      }
  end
}

why is the game screaming at me i did nothing wrong

[candid epoch]

i had a stroke

[merry raven]

  ...set_ability code around here

I'm trying to make it so that after the scoring has ended, the current hand will gain Enhancements before the next cards are drawn, but rn the Enhancements only gets assigned if I have played a hand after

Any insights?

[wintry solar]

you probably want context.after right?

[merry raven]

if card.ability.extra.state == "ready" and context.after and context.cardarea == G.hand then

I tried this instead, but still no dice, doesn't work even if I don't include context.cardarea

[storm kraken]

i got the game to stop screaming at me (witht he funny side effect of each seven giving mult)

[random sleet]

i made it more complicated

[merry raven]

The Wheel of Theseus

[random sleet]

oh yeah and this is wheel of wheel

[storm kraken]

wheel of overcomplication: 1 in 5 chance to create a wheel with way too much explanation

[storm kraken]

the what

[random sleet]

the wheel of wheel of fortune

[storm kraken]

cant you just make a wheel of wheel that has a 1 in 2 chance to make a wheel

[random sleet]

it is 1 in 4 i just have two oops all sixes

[storm kraken]

i know

[random sleet]

the wheel spins for thee

[storm kraken]

why doWTF

reading time

also why do you have so many wheels

[random sleet]

they're wheely cool

[merry raven]

Car of Fortune

[storm kraken]

true,,,

[frosty dock]

nil in nil? 🥴

[random sleet]

yeah whats up with that

oh i think i know actually lol

[frosty dock]

idk can I see your loc_vars

[random sleet]

no please dont judge me

😭

[frosty dock]

I don't judge

[random sleet]

yes you do ive seen it

[sick sparrow]

balatro pegi 18 card and grac 19 card?

[frosty dock]

okay okay I try not to judge

[random sleet]

its been a while ok i forget how this stuff works

[frosty dock]

either you show me or I can't help, that's all

[random sleet]

nah its fine i realized what it was

[sick sparrow]

the gives x100 mult when the game rating isn't above ~17 years old

[autumn geode]

is it possible to spawn a joker debuffed and then a different joker rebuffs that original joker when its owned?

i was thinking of something like in the load = function set it to debuffed

[candid epoch]

what the fuck even is "Negative DONT"

[merry raven]

Negatives don't need extra room to spawn because they create the extra room

[sick sparrow]

balatro pegi 18 card and grac 19 card?

♠️

[candid epoch]

yeah but its kinda weird to see (Must have a room: negatives dont)

[random sleet]

because the case of needing room is conditional on the wheel being negative or not

it reflects the actual code implementation as best as possible with english words

also it's not supposed to go to black text after negatives there lol oops

[zealous glen]

"May need room"

[random sleet]

lol

[lucid owl]

bumping this though i'm not at my pc right now, see my messages afterwards for what i tried 🙏

[random sleet]

better?

[wild patrol]

I ain't reading all that

Card go brrrrrr

[sturdy compass]

Oh my goodness

[small igloo]

Hey Guys! I'm new to modding Balatro and have a question about an effect I'm trying to implement:
I want to add a joker that will have the game act as if cards with rank 4 are rank 9. I noticed that this would be similar to the smeared effect which I saw is pretty much hard coded in the game's source code. So would I have to basically do the same here and rewrite the game's functions that return a card's rank or is there a better way? Did anyone else implement a replacement effect like this?

[sturdy compass]

I’ve implemented something similar and unfortunately hardcoding seems to be the way to go

[nocturne garnet]

Wheel of Wheel of Wheel of Fortune (Rare): 1 in 4 chance to redeem a Wheel of Wheel of Fortune when Blind is selected

[small igloo]

Damn, I'll try to figure that out then. Thanks!

[random sleet]

thats wheely good

[frosty dock]

Something along the lines of "quantum ranks" has been discussed several times before but we don't have a full implementation of it. Just overriding a card's effective rank has been done before (see Maximized from Cryptid) but the card won't count as its original rank anymore

it's possible to make multiple ranks on the same card work similarly to suits, but it requires modifying quite a bit of vanilla code and probably break a lot of mods as well. Even then we haven't come up with an efficient way to find straights in quantum-ranked hands

[small igloo]

Ok, so I guess there is no easy way to go about this. Thank you for the reply.

[worthy stirrup]

Just to be sure, is this how its set up?

[frosty dock]

yeah looks about right. Though you're using a different atlas key in your joker than what you defined above?

[worthy stirrup]

yea, i just am using my code from yesterday, i havent gotten to that yet

thanks for reminding me tho

[candid epoch]

i have no clue what to do with these

[dreamy thunder]

how do i make joker change sell values like the egg joker?

[ionic verge]

@frosty dock i need some advice on this and the above video message
trying to get the message, sound, and chips/mult counters update at the same time and as of now i can only get two of those at once, despite the code seemingly being set up right according to digitaldetective

[frosty dock]

what if you move updating the hand text (and changing the mult/chip values I guess?) into the func (or the event, not sure)?

wait this is just a single sound now?

[ionic verge]

yeah

[frosty dock]

you can put single sounds that go with a message into the return table as sound

[ionic verge]

might add a little more but for now just this

mmm

before i go and do that im wondering if thered be a way to -
nah probably not the case

(combine sounds in the code without making a new sound file alltogether)

[ionic verge]

so sound = 'multhit2'?

[dreamy thunder]

^?

[ionic verge]

oh wait wrong place

[sonic vortex]

I was looking through the source of other mods to reverse engineer how they work, what is this G object I keep seeing?

[ionic verge]

was gonna post this in me mod post
but this works tbh to show that its working

[ionic verge]

something something 'Global' i think

or Game

[frosty dock]

Game

[ionic verge]

im guessing

[sonic vortex]

is there anywhere I can see the properties of it?

[frosty dock]

not to be confused with _G, which is the global scope

[frosty dock]

most are defined in game.lua as Game.whatever

[sonic vortex]

oh like in the balatro source itself?

[frosty dock]

anything defined on Game or on self within a function on Game will be present on G

[frosty dock]

yeah. You can extract the executable with 7-zip

there are also modified versions of those files present in Mods/lovely/dump for whichever files have been patched into

which should be most of them if you use steamodded

[sonic vortex]

oh ok I'll look through that, thanks!

[worthy stirrup]

How can i make a jokers ablity activate once a hand is played but isnt related to the scoring

[long sun]

context:before iirc? checking

[worthy stirrup]

im not good at making jokers, so im trying to make more so i get better, lol

[long sun]

okay ya it's:
context.cardarea = G.jokers and context.before

[worthy stirrup]

thank you

[long sun]

np!

[sonic vortex]

there is a state for SELECTING_HAND but there doesn't seem to be a similar one for jokers?

unless I'm misunderstanding what these states mean

[worthy stirrup]

just to be sure, im running

  calculate = function(self, card, context)
    if context.cardarea == G.jokers and context.before then
      return {
        -- TO DO, Add chance to subtract and add from joker worth.
      }
    end
  end
}

[long sun]

mhm

[worthy stirrup]

okay, sweet, time to find out how to add chances

[dreamy thunder]

still need help here

[worthy stirrup]

oh, i have something, give me a second

i found this code

[frosty dock]

i mean just look at what egg does...?

[worthy stirrup]

if self.ability.name == 'Egg' then
                    self.ability.extra_value = self.ability.extra_value + self.ability.extra
                    self:set_cost()
                    return {
                        message = localize('k_val_up'),
                        colour = G.C.MONEY
                    }

[dreamy thunder]

i did

i couldnt get anything to work

[frosty dock]

card.ability.extra_value = card.ability.extra_value + whatever
card:set_cost()

[sonic vortex]

is there any way to print to console?

[worthy stirrup]

im probably not, but am i doing this right?

if pseudorandom() < G.GAME.probabilities.normal/2 then
        return {
          -- TO DO, ADD VALUE
        }
      else
        return {
          -- TO DO, SUBTRACT VALUE
      }

i want a 50/50 chance regardless if the player has the dice card

[frosty dock]

you can just use print but there's steamodded functions with specific log levels as well, see https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Logging

[zealous glen]

I think it could be simplified a bit

[sonic vortex]

thanks!

[random sleet]

no

[worthy stirrup]

Crash log

  calculate = function(self, card, context)
    if context.cardarea == G.jokers and context.before then
      if pseudorandom() < 1/2 then
        return {
          sendInfoMessage("CashAdded", "Crypto")
        }
      else
        return {
          sendInfoMessage("CashSubtracted", "Crypto")
      }
    end
    end
  end
}

[frosty dock]

you need to give pseudorandom a seed

e.g. pseudorandom('crypto')

[worthy stirrup]

oh, will it be diffrent every game?

[frosty dock]

it will be the same if you use the same seed

[worthy stirrup]

how do i make the seed random?

if thats how that works

[frosty dock]

no you just give it a string, the game makes it random for each seed by itself

[worthy stirrup]

ohhh, thank you

[frosty dock]

pseudorandom calls with the same seed identifier get the same queue of values for the same seed, so you should use different identifiers for unrelated randomness

[autumn geode]

what is the context for jokers that you own?

[frosty dock]

what

[autumn geode]

basically trying to iterate through my owned jokers to see if i have a certain joker in there

[worthy stirrup]

im praying this works lol

  calculate = function(self, card, context)
    if context.cardarea == G.jokers and context.before then
      if pseudorandom("crypto") < 1/2 then
        card.ability.extra_value = card.ability.extra_value + 1
        return {
          card:set_cost()
        }
      else
        card.ability.extra_value = card.ability.extra_value - 1
        return {
          card:set_cost()
      }
    end
    end
  end
}

[frosty dock]

why is the set_cost in your return table

also shouldn't you have a message?

[worthy stirrup]

im still learning

[frosty dock]

and how is that a context? you can check if you own a certain joker like if next(SMODS.find_card('j_modprefix_key')) then

[autumn geode]

sorry wrong wording from me

[worthy stirrup]

i mean, it works, somehow

[autumn geode]

thanks

[worthy stirrup]

i should probably add that message

Okay, I think this is better

      if pseudorandom("crypto") < 1/2 then
        card.ability.extra_value = card.ability.extra_value + 1
        return {
          message = "+1",
          colour = G.C.MONEY
        }
      else
        card.ability.extra_value = card.ability.extra_value - 1
        return {
          message = "-1",
          colour = G.C.MONEY
      }
    end
    end
    card:set_cost()
  end
}

[vagrant cedar]

Am I allowed to post this mod in the mod section for others to download or is it against the rules?

[hidden timber]

@mellow sable @frosty dock I'll include version handling for both of y'all's mods (Talisman & Steamodded), because apparently they are very necessary for a lot of mods

[worthy stirrup]

no way, it can make me pay to sell, thats cool

[long sun]

have a Conspiracy Theorist! (should i make the head a bit taller?)

[nocturne garnet]

is he a flat earther

[long sun]

mhm!

and all the other conspiracies

[vagrant cedar]

Gains X1 Mult if 9/11 was an inside job (Currently 2X Mult)

It started at 1X

[nocturne garnet]

😨

[long sun]

ooh parallel thinking!

[ionic verge]

how would i sort for highest ranking card in hand?

(not played hand, normal hand, if that matters)

[long sun]

okay this is much better :D

[autumn geode]

is it possible to then interact with that card ei debuff that card

[sonic vortex]

What is the function call to sell a joker?

[long sun]

idea:
Creates a copy of Earth if played hand is a Full House

might be too strong, no idea

[glossy kestrel]

i didnt ask any questions but the questions previously asked and answered here helped me make my first modded joker work thank you all

[long sun]

:D

awesomeee!!!! can i see it?

[mellow sable]

thanks :D

might also be good for Cryptid, but I'll add Cryptid to the mod index when the developmental version gets more stable

[hidden timber]

Already added crypted to the index btw

[mellow sable]

thanks

[long sun]

ooooooh!!!!!!!!!

awesome!!!

[mellow sable]

for that one, what you need to know is:
Cryptid / Steamodded / Talisman
main / old calc / latest release
refactor / main / main

[violet void]

For short you can just do [#2] instead of [Currently #2#]

[glossy kestrel]

o

how does that display

[violet void]

Like Yorick

[glossy kestrel]

that might be better, ty

[ionic verge]

how would i get the rank of a card?

(from G.hand.cards if it matters)

[violet void]

Card:get_id()

[lucid owl]

i'm trying to make a card that discards a random card from your hand after every round, and upgrades by 0.01 * the rank of that card. however, whenever i try to perform math the multiplication on my saved variable for the card's rank (num), the game crashes saying it's a nil value and i'm unsure why. all of the discarding code was basically copied verbatim from the hook boss blind

[worthy stirrup]

is pos = { x = 1, y = 0 }, mesured by pixels or by px defined in Atlas

[ionic verge]

defined in atlas

basically locating which tile of the grid youve made in assets its calling for

[worthy stirrup]

okay, thanks

[ionic verge]

does anyone know how to get these guys to destroy different cards?
(feline is supposed to destroy the highest ranked card in hand)

preferably id also like for it to destroy after everything has visibly scored

[worthy stirrup]

god, what was that cards name when you sell it, it gives the double tag

[ionic verge]

double soda?

[zealous glen]

Make it work like Glass

[ionic verge]

or cola

[zealous glen]

Don’t destroy them directly

[ionic verge]

and how is that done?

[worthy stirrup]

okay, i couldnt remember it, thanks

[zealous glen]

Oh wait

In hand not in play

Then maybe put the loop inside an Event

That could be a bit buggy too

Hmm

[lucid owl]

what's the difference between mult and mult_mod?

[zealous glen]

I added a patch to avoid bugs when destroying cards

[worthy stirrup]

to be sure, this is how you check if the joker is sold?

  calculate = function(self, card, context)
    if context.selling_self() then
      
    end
  end
}

[zealous glen]

No ()

The context sounds right but I don’t remember

[ionic verge]

yes

i remember coding one that worked off of that

but yeah no ()

[zealous glen]

Actually does shatter and dissolve create events?

[ionic verge]

iunno

[zealous glen]

If not it might be easier

just if card and not card.removed

Where card is probably v

[ionic verge]

yeah its v

i,v in ipairs my beloved

[zealous glen]

the inferior alternative to k,v

[ionic verge]

so add those to this if?

[zealous glen]

That’s something you could try

Seems easier than the other suggestions

[ionic verge]

didnt work

still just erased one

a funny idea is trying to count how many felines there are

and set it to second/third etc depending on which feline it is

but that feels like a really bad way to do it

[zealous glen]

Then try the other suggestion

[worthy stirrup]

is this a 1/3 chance for each?

  calculate = function(self, card, context)
    if context.selling_self then
      if pseudorandom("crypto") > 1/3 then
        print("Sold 1")

    elseif pseudorandom("crypto") < 2/3 then
      print("Sold 3")

    else
      print("Sold 2")

      end
    end
  end
}

[ionic verge]

shouldnt need the elseif, just else

or

wait nvm

misread

flip the first sign tho

[worthy stirrup]

okay let me try selling 5 and see what happens

sweet, it works

[zealous glen]

Two thirds

Also missing the O!A6s scaling

Also it depends on what you mean by the chance of the second one

[ionic verge]

hmmmm

[worthy stirrup]

im wanting it to not be effected because id rather not have it always choose one tag

[ionic verge]

i think
just maybe
that was a few too many cards erased

[zealous glen]

As long as its probability isn’t listed

[zealous glen]

But also this

[worthy stirrup]

each one has a %33.3 chance of being chosen

[zealous glen]

Because the three options aren’t evenly distributed

Not currently

[worthy stirrup]

should the middle one also be 1/3?

[zealous glen]

I think right now it’s 1/3, 1/9, and 5/9

If you want even chances without doing math I suggest using the function that selects from a table

[wintry solar]

Just do the pseudorandom call once at the top

[ionic verge]

no as long as they fixed the sign being backwards that should be 1/3 1/3 1/3

oh wait

yeah thats an issue

[zealous glen]

Currently it’s conditional

[worthy stirrup]

so something like this?

  calculate = function(self, card, context)
    if context.selling_self then
      local random_value = pseudorandom("crypto") -- Generate the random value once
      if random_value < 1/3 then
        add_tag(Tag('tag_investment'))
      elseif random_value < 2/3 then
        add_tag(Tag('tag_economy'))
      else
        add_tag(Tag('tag_coupon'))
      end
    end
  end
}

[zealous glen]

That works too but technically requires a bit of math

Just selecting one element from a table at first is equivalent and requires no further math

That looks like it works

[worthy stirrup]

i guess its time to make the next joker :3

[wintry solar]

Yeah that’ll be equal probabilities

[ionic verge]

so does anyone have any thoughts on this?

[zealous glen]

Wrong context

[ionic verge]

what am i missing then

[zealous glen]

probably not context.individual or something

Idk

maybe repetition

[wintry solar]

Why aren’t you using the destroying context?

[zealous glen]

These are for the hand

[wintry solar]

There’s a check for hand cards

[zealous glen]

Where do the destroying contexts work?

Deck? Discard?

[wintry solar]

Play and hand

I’m not sure if aure added deck and discard or not

[zealous glen]

One more reason to stick with my patch

[ionic verge]

so what context do i need to set up?

[frosty dock]

I think I did

[zealous glen]

Look the context list and see what to test for

[zealous glen]

At which points though?

End of round?

[frosty dock]

after regular destroying_card

[ionic verge]

i know theres also a later section on it but like
couldnt this say the basics of it like the others in this list?

[frosty dock]

end of round, individual and repetition as well

[zealous glen]

Hmmm

So how I’d use it for the end of round

if context.end_of_round and context.destroying_card and context.other_card == card then?

Maybe throw in something to make it only execute once

[ionic verge]

what context do i need to destroy an in hand card per played hand?

[frosty dock]

destroying card isn't end of round though? it's after hand played

[ionic verge]

rephrase
what contexts would i need for this to trigger right?

[zealous glen]

I asked if you put it at the end of round and you said maybe

[long sun]

the Eye of Providence :D

[frosty dock]

no I said I think I added destroying card to deck and discard

I didn't introduce new timings for it

[frosty dock]

I wasn't responding to you

[ionic verge]

mmm

mb

[frosty dock]

if context.destroy_card and context.cardarea == G.hand then I think

[zealous glen]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-cipher-gravity-falls-hello-chat-hi-chat-gif-11054194576899293394

[ionic verge]

for the moment got rid of the add_event, and set up the contexts like john smods said, now its not deleting cards

[wintry solar]

needs to return { remove = true }

[lucid owl]

a random card is discarded every round (like the hook) and 0.01 * its rank is supposed to be added to the multiplier of the joker. however, it only adds 0.01 to the mult and nothing else, and i can't discern why

[ionic verge]

still not removing cards

wait

hm

might be fixed now

[cedar stream]

other than cryptid has any mod implemented double sided cards?

[ionic verge]

nope

[zealous glen]

Bunco has a double-sided tape

[cedar stream]

but playing cards

[tepid crow]

betmma I think?

oh wait those arent double sided

just flipped

nevermind

[cedar stream]

well still i can use the flipped mechanic

[lucid owl]

from what i can tell, card.ability.mult_gain isn't changing, but i'm unsure why unless selected_card.base.nominal isn't working correctly

[cedar stream]

cuz i want to implement something like this https://scryfall.com/card/lci/135/brasss-tunnel-grinder-tecutlan-the-searing-rift

[ionic verge]

wait does blueprint_compat default to false?

[cedar stream]

im not sure, i dont use that function, and blueprint works with it

[lucid owl]

is it possible to check the value of a variable while playing? i should probably actually effectively debug this lmao

[cedar stream]

have you tried seeing if there is a joker that does something similar, modded or vanilla

[foggy carbon]

can an eternal joker self-destruct?

[lucid owl]

the raised fist is close to this and i essentially copied its formula, for some reason it just won't work in my case

[cedar stream]

yes

[foggy carbon]

cool

[cedar stream]

what about any modded jokers?

[lucid owl]

i haven't checked, i'll search a bit tho

[hardy viper]

any self destructing jokers in vanilla are marked as incompatible with eternal

[sweet halo]

anyone know what this means/how to fix?

[frosty dock]

not cropping out useful parts of the crash screen would be a good start

[sweet halo]

mb

[frosty dock]

#⚙・modding-general message

[sweet halo]

cheers👍

[frosty dock]

okay so voucher calculation

idk how much information about redeemed vouchers we need to store

maybe it just needs to be a cardarea

at least if i want to support any kind of mutable values, i don't think there's a way around it

[winter thorn]

animal well skins is so based

[ionic verge]

yep :]

not my skins someone else made them

[worthy stirrup]

is there context for when a card is burnt/destroyed?

[frosty dock]

what kind of card

[worthy stirrup]

like when the knife deletes a joker, or when a bannana goes extinct

[zealous glen]

Not Jokers IIRC

I think Paperback had a non-jank solution

-# and betmma had a jank solution

[worthy stirrup]

wait, how do i even destroy a joker

[zealous glen]

Probably manually unless it’s been added as a context

Which I don’t think it was

[violet void]

Can I use this function to change the sprite of my Joker during a run? Like it flips, changes sprite and flips back

Or is this the way to go for that

[frosty dock]

yeah use set_sprite_pos for that

[zealous glen]

Is that saved when you reload?

[frosty dock]

uhh

good question

[worthy stirrup]

okay, im getting the Shcreenshotted to pop up but its not deleting

  calculate = function(self, card, context)
    if context.cardarea == G.jokers and context.before then
        if pseudorandom("crypto") < 1/4 then
          G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
            func = function()
                play_sound('tarot1')
                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after', delay = 0.3, blockable = false,
                    func = function()
                            G.jokers:remove_card(self)
                        return true; end})) 
                return true
            end
        })) 
        return {
          message = localize('screenshotted'),
          colour = G.C.CHIPS
      }
        end
    end
  end
}

I dont know why its not leaving

never did i think, causing a joker to delete itself would cause so much trouble

[violet void]

Tried just now, it does not

I'll add it in set_sprites too

[zealous glen]

An easy solution might be set_ability

Or see what Bunco does for the tape

[violet void]

Is this too ugly?

[worthy stirrup]

its beautiful compared to the stuff im writing

[dreamy thunder]

        -- This part plays the animation.
        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
          func = function()
            play_sound('tarot1')
            card.T.r = -0.2
            card:juice_up(0.3, 0.4)
            card.states.drag.is = true
            card.children.center.pinch.x = true
            -- This part destroys the card.
            G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
              trigger = 'after',
              delay = 0.3,
              blockable = false,
              func = function()
                G.jokers:remove_card(card)
                card:remove()
                card = nil
                return true;
              end
            }))
            return true
          end
        }))
        -- Sets the pool flag to true, meaning Gros Michel 2 doesn't spawn, and Cavendish 2 does.
        G.GAME.pool_flags.gros_michel_extinct2 = true
        return {
          message = 'Extinct!'
        }
      else
        return {
          message = 'Safe!'
        }
      end
    end
  end
}```

here. this is from the example mods of steammodded

[worthy stirrup]

omg, i had to switch to card

[foggy carbon]

my game crashed from a memory alocation because it's out of memory. How do I reset that? I've done it before but forgot

[worthy stirrup]

how the fuck

[violet void]

I think that's emplace missing

[worthy stirrup]

i think its because i set card to nil outside the part it destroys it

[vital rapids]

What would constitute as using someone elses code?

[violet void]

    name = 'Taped', custom_atlas = 'bunco_jokers_taped', position = 1,
    rarity = 'Rare', cost = 6,
    blueprint = false, eternal = true,
    unlocked = true,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.before
        and context.full_hand
        and not context.other_card
        and G.GAME.current_round.hands_played == 0
        and G.GAME.blind.boss
        and not context.blueprint then
            event({func = function()

                local cards = {}

                for i = 1, #context.full_hand do
                    if not context.full_hand[i].ability.group then
                        table.insert(cards, context.full_hand[i])
                    end
                end

                if #cards > 1 then
                    link_cards(cards, self.key)
                    big_juice(card)

                    for i = 1, #cards do
                        big_juice(cards[i])
                    end
                end

            return true end})
        end
    end,
    set_ability = function(self, card, initial, delay_sprites)
        if self.discovered or card.bypass_discovery_center then
            card.T.w = G.CARD_W * 1.788732394366197
            card.T.h = G.CARD_H * 1.189473684210526
        end
    end,
    set_sprites = function(self, card, front)
        if self.discovered or card.bypass_discovery_center then
            card.children.center.scale = {x = 127, y = 113}
            card.children.center:reset()
        end
    end,
    load = function(self, card, card_table, other_card)
        return self.set_ability(self, card)
    end
})```

I've checked it, but I don't understand how it changes the sprite

or if its changing it at all

[placid frigate]

Is there a way to make custom challenges yet? If so, where can one find tutorials on it?

[olive nexus]

i dont know anything about coding, but i would love if there was a mod to add a different main song when getting to endless mode

[foggy carbon]

found the messages when this happened last time. I uninstalled and reinstalled the full game

[worthy stirrup]

im so confused, its not taking in the blueprint photo, but instead is using Jimbo

SMODS.Joker {
  -- How the code refers to the joker.
  key = 'Scammer',
  -- loc_text is the actual name and description that show in-game for the card.
  loc_txt = {
    name = 'Blueprint ',
    text={
      "Copies ability of",
      "{C:attention}Joker{} to the right",
  },
  config = { extra = { worth = 2 } },
  loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
    return { vars = { card.ability.extra.extra_value } }
  end,
  rarity = 3,
  atlas = 'JokerSheet',
  pos = { x = 4, y = 0 },
  -- Cost of card in shop.
  cost = 10,
  calculate = function(self, card, context)
    return {
      message = "Scammed!"
    }
  end
}
}

its so fucking good it just changes its face too

[zealous glen]

I suspect it's position

Must've been patched in

[frosty dock]

🤔

[violet void]

I remembered Cardsauce has a similar joker (Im so happy/Im so sad)

But its like

It uses update (first is cardsauce, second is mine updated)

How wrong is this from 0 to 10? lol

I tried it and it works but its probably a stretch (It also saves when resuming)

[zealous glen]

I don't think it should use update

Updae is called every frame

you don't need that

set_ability and set_sprite_pos should be sufficient

[worthy stirrup]

^

[violet void]

Yea, I was not convinced with this take as well

[foggy carbon]

can anyone figure out why the code I've written doesn't actually produce a text window?

[violet void]

But idk how to use the two options you provided

[zealous glen]

did set_sprite_pos work for you

[violet void]

It did but it resets when you resume

[zealous glen]

use it, save the current position to extra.whatever, then have set_ability call set_sprite_pos with the saved position

I think that should work

[cerulean rose]

loc_text should be loc_txt

[foggy carbon]

thank you lol

it wasn't broken, it just wasn't doing anything. I assumed it had to be a stupid typo like that

[sand oasis]

trying to make a tarot card with unique functions depending on whether it's used inside or outside of a blind. any pointers?

I am not entirely certain of how the use method can be applied and of the contexts themselves

[frosty dock]

there's no context in using consumables

your indicator is G.GAME.blind.in_blind

[violet void]

Sadly didn't work

[zealous glen]

set_ability might be too early then. load then?

[weak brook]

has anyone put a cardarea inside a description of a card? is that too crazy of an idea?

trying to figure out how I might do that for this card that shows the top few cards in the deck

[zealous glen]

There's a few Jokers like that

One has CardAreas atop the deck

[violet void]

This is the winner, ty

[zealous glen]

another just listed them written down

High Card had one show the entire deck, but in a menu

I think you can try to do something similar to Blinds

And display an object inside the tooltip UI element

[weak brook]

yeah thats what im trying to figure out rn

[zealous glen]

I think Blinds just show the Sprite

[weak brook]

codes not working well though

[violet void]

there was one person who put some joker cards inside a joker description

[weak brook]

    if card.config.center.discovered then
        -- If statement makes it so that this function doesnt activate in the "Joker Unlocked" UI and cause 'Not Discovered' to be stuck in the corner
        full_UI_table.name = localize{type = 'name', key = self.key, set = self.set, name_nodes = {}, vars = specific_vars or {}}
    end
    localize{type = 'descriptions', key = self.key, set = self.set, nodes = desc_nodes, vars = {}}
    if G.deck and not card.area.config.collection then
        local tohth = CardArea(
                0,0,
                5.5*G.CARD_W,
                0.42*G.CARD_H,
                {card_limit = card.ability.preview, type = 'title_2', highlight_limit = 0, card_w = G.CARD_W*0.5})
        for i = 1, card.ability.preview do
            if G.deck.cards[i] then
                tohth:emplace(G.deck.cards[i])
            end
        end
        main_end = {n=G.UIT.C, config={align = "bm", padding = 0.02}, nodes={
            {n=G.UIT.O, config={object = tohth}}
        }}
        if main_end then
            desc_nodes[#desc_nodes+1] = main_end
        end
    end
end```

[zealous glen]

I can send the code I have for Blinds in tooltips

[zealous glen]

see if it helps you

[weak brook]

do you know what mod that was from?

[zealous glen]

There was a mod with dice inside Joker descriptions

[zealous glen]

@weak brook

[weak brook]

@violet void

forgot to reply ping

[zealous glen]

Example output

Well, I also wrap it with the rest of the UI

so you need a little bit more code

I pass an auxiliary key to info_queue

[weak brook]

not exactly what i'm looking for there cause i wanna keep any edition, enhancement, or seal the card has and display it properly in the preview

if its just the sprite its not accounting for that

[zealous glen]

It is though

You take the Enhancement as the Sprite

Then draw the face and seal on top

you also pass the correct edition as the shader

[weak brook]

still that feels like a roundabout solution, feel like it would be much easier to just figure out how to put a cardarea in the ui and them emplace those cards in it

less extra work

[zealous glen]

That sounds like "it would be much easier to do [HARDER THING]"

[weak brook]

it might not be harder? just trying to see if theres examples

seems like there is according to what rolo said

[violet void]

It was @ elial1

I think

Like this?

[weak brook]

perfect yes exactly like that

thanks a bunch

[plucky wolf]

I've been trying to hook into a method for a deck I'm working on, but (despite a lack of warnings in the console) nothing seems to be happening ingame. I believe it's the hook itself messing up (because if I add another line that should trigger a noticeable effect, it still does nothing) but I really don't know how. Does anyone by chance know the reason?

[zealous glen]

https://github.com/art-muncher/Jimbo-s-Pack/blob/ad2f0d15ccda1522f92dd446c253ddd0c53f791b/jimbo.lua#L55

Idk if there's an updated version

[weak brook]

yeah i found it

[proven tide]

Can anyone help me understand how ambientFire sounds work?

SMODS.Sound({
  key = "ambientFire2",
  path = "ambientFire2.ogg",
  replace = "ambientFire2"
})
SMODS.Sound({
  key = "ambientFire1",
  path = "ambientFire1.ogg",
  replace = "ambientFire1"
})
SMODS.Sound({
  key = "ambientFire3",
  path = "ambientFire3.ogg",
  replace = "ambientFire3"
})

This does work, but not for these for some reason.

[minor magnet]

is this balanced for a legendary?

i dont think it is

but im not sure how to balance something like this

[frosty dock]

according to thunk, legendaries need not be balanced

[minor magnet]

fuck yeah

[vocal verge]

Perkeo definitely isn't

[frosty dock]

but this seems a bit weak

[minor magnet]

this earns 100$ a round if you play 5 luckies

[frosty dock]

i correct, it's niche

[minor magnet]

how would you change it?

i still want to have something to do with probabilities

[frosty dock]

it's an interesting legendary for sure

[minor magnet]

it kills cavendish lol

[vocal verge]

and only +100 flat mult, kills cavendish, destroys glass cards

[minor magnet]

thats the funniest interaction it has

mmm ya i know, still better than canio tho

[vocal verge]

eh

[minor magnet]

the money is really what makes this joker

[vocal verge]

better than Chicot for sure

not canio tho

[zealous glen]

I think Balatrostuck has a similar Rare

but on the last hand

[minor magnet]

this is also a homestuck inspired joker

checks out

[vocal verge]

last hand definitely sounds better

cause it synergizes with dusk and stuff

[frosty dock]

it might fit rare better tbh, it's useful if you have the right conditions for it

[zealous glen]

I think in general last hand is a nerf

[frosty dock]

but it can also hurt you or just do nothing

[minor magnet]

yea

[frosty dock]

first hand is definitely stronger than last though

[zealous glen]

My personal goal in designing Legendaries is changing how you play the game

[minor magnet]

this is a buff from its previous effect of "gives x4 mult every time a lucky card successfully triggers"

which was

really weak

making a legendary based on lucky cards is hard

[vocal verge]

ok to be fair

[vocal verge]

this + guaranteed probability on first hand joker

would go hard

[minor magnet]

very much so

but no joker with 2 effects

do i split them?

[vocal verge]

yeah

2 separate ones

guaranteed probability works on it's own

[minor magnet]

so maybe the legendary has the x4 mult and the rare has guaranteed probabilities

[zealous glen]

joker with 3 effects then

4 effects

16 effects

[minor magnet]

small issue, you are almost never gonna find both

[zealous glen]

the other way around makes more sense

well

[minor magnet]

i had difficulty finding oops alll 6s in testing

[zealous glen]

neither seems appropriate for a Legendary for me

[minor magnet]

yea

but im not really sure how to make a legendary have something to do with luck

[vocal verge]

i'm trying to beat gold stake abandoned deck and i keep getting sock and smiley and photocard

RNG truly is a bitch

[zealous glen]

confirmation bias

[minor magnet]

fr

my other legendaries are very much more fun, this one is proving quite difficult

[outer dew]

Is there a list or documentation anywhere of stuff that jokers can check for? I'm getting tired of checking a bunch of other code to find what I'm looking for lol

[zealous glen]

I think the guaranteed probability is a fun concept at least

even if in practice it's not very practical

[minor magnet]

oh yes in testing it is seeming quite useful, its just not practical

[zealous glen]

The other concept seems like Lucky Cat 2

[minor magnet]

more like a weaker triboulet for lucky cards

would making more lucky card based jokers help make this one more useful?

or more probability jokers

[zealous glen]

Yes

[minor magnet]

alright i'll get to work

lucky cards ain't a viable playstyle? The answer, use a joker, and if that don't work... Use more joker.

[lethal mural]

why does this crash?

[frosty dock]

how does it crash?

[frosty dock]

then you're not giving enough information

you're using a variable you didn't define

[lethal mural]

i'm trying to figure out how create_playing_card works and want to add jacks

[frosty dock]

this isn't a moment of "you're not using create_playing_card correctly"

it's a moment of "your code has problems"

i.e. you're using a variable _suit that doesn't exist

[lethal mural]

oh i thought thats how you specified the suit whoops

[frosty dock]

no it is, but you didn't define _suit

[lethal mural]

so how would i define it?

[frosty dock]

how am I supposed to know what you want your suit to be

[lethal mural]

ohh wait i think i figured it out

i was aiming to add a jack

but i think i figured it out

now assertion fail

but i think i have an idea why

i forgot to add e_
edit: yep that was the problem

[foggy carbon]

is there a way to define the size of a joker's sprite? I have my atlas set to a smaller pixel size, but all that does is take the correct portion of the spritesheet and then stretch it to regular joker size. I want my jokers to be Wee Joker size

[lethal mural]

ok so it added the card but it wasnt a jack hmm

[rare bobcat]

How would you make fool include spectral cards?

[lethal mural]

i cant actually figure out how to make create_playing_card give a specific suit

i managed to get the editions and seals part to work but the suit i'm stuck on

[frosty dock]

'H_J' would be a jack of hearts for example

[lethal mural]

wait

not suit

rank sorry

oh wait

DUH NO WONDER IT DIDNT WORK

hopefully changing it to rank fixes it

nope

huh

yeah i wanted it to be a jack of any suit

[frosty dock]

display_size = { w = 71 * 0.7, h = 95 * 0.7 } on the joker with normal pixel size on the atlas

[rare bobcat]

Does ‘Tarot_Planet_Spectral’ (changed from ‘Tarot_Planet’) work like I think it will?

[frosty dock]

No

[rare bobcat]

Ah

[frosty dock]

Tarot_Planet is hardcoded

[rare bobcat]

So how would I do what I’m trying to?

[frosty dock]

there's a fool specifically for spectrals in #1210728178201526373, you can go off that

[lethal mural]

i think i'm doing this wrong somehow but not sure how

[frosty dock]

-# don't ask me why that's in there

[frosty dock]

yeah no that first part is supposed to be a suit

[rare bobcat]

What’s it called?

The fool

The special fool

[lethal mural]

first part?

[frosty dock]

https://github.com/Aurelius7309/SixSuits/blob/master/SixSuits.lua#L434

[frosty dock]

what you now changed to be _rank

[lethal mural]

oh so it should be _suit?

[frosty dock]

you can call it however you like

you just need to define it

[rare bobcat]

So how would I make it choose between tarot_planet and spectral?

Wait

Wrong wording

[lethal mural]

i want it to be a jack of any suit how would i do that

[frosty dock]

what's any suit

a random one?

[lethal mural]

yes

[rare bobcat]

How do I make it include spectral?

And also tarot_planet

[frosty dock]

local eligible_suits = {}
for _,k in ipairs(SMODS.Suit.obj_buffer) do
  if not SMODS.Suits[k].in_pool or SMODS.Suits[k]:in_pool({ rank = 'Jack' }) then eligible_suits[#eligible_suits+1] = SMODS.Suits[k].card_key end
end
local _suit = pseudorandom_element(eligible_suits, pseudoseed('a_seed_of_your_choice'))

something like this should do

[lethal mural]

o i see

[rare bobcat]

And why does fool say disable blind effect everywhere

Was that what it was supposed to do?

[frosty dock]

it did that in n old demo

[frosty dock]

if card.config.center_key and card.ability.consumeable and card.config.center.set == 'Spectral' then
see this line in my set_consumeable_usage hook?

you change this check to include tarots, planets and spectrals

[surreal marsh]

i didn't use dissolve_color since months ago 🥲 currently is simply setting a value in card:sell , then check this value and do things in card:start_dissolve

[lethal mural]

IT WORKED

[frosty dock]

e.g.

if card.config.center_key and card.ability.consumeable and ({ Spectral = true, Tarot = true, Planet = true })[card.config.center.set] then

[lethal mural]

now i just have to make it add 3 of them and destroy itself lo

[rare bobcat]

Pot of jacks?

[lethal mural]

yeah

pot of jacks

[rare bobcat]

I feel like jacks in the box would be a better pun

[lethal mural]

after it gets used up itll turn into a regular pot

[frosty dock]

as for the Tarot_Planet being the first argument of create_card, that actually doesn't matter at all

[zealous glen]

betmma ego searching

[rare bobcat]

How do I add multiple arguments?

Comma?

[zealous glen]

But I heard Paperback has a solution which seemed good from what I heard (I did not read it)

[rare bobcat]

Can i just ('Tarot_Planet', 'Spectral'...)

[zealous glen]

IIRC I also considered doing something with a variable set on the card but I think I didn't code it very well when I tried. I might've tried the other way around

[rare bobcat]

Or is it more than that

It looks like it is more than that

[surreal marsh]

this?

[frosty dock]

for what

if you're referring to the create_card argument, it doesn't matter at all. you could put anything you wanted there

[zealous glen]

No. I think it's this https://github.com/GitNether/paperback/blob/84063366cdccd76591bff395a6f19d06bfa9af6e/paperback-utils.lua#L77

tl;dr: it can discern whether the card is being sold or not via a Controller variable

I'm not sure how non-jank that is, but it seems non-jank

[surreal marsh]

G.CONTROLLER.locks.selling_card

seems good

[zealous glen]

I had thought it wasn't real time dependent but I'm not sure

[rare bobcat]

Where do I find that

[frosty dock]

60 or so lines down from this

[proper stratus]

hmm

if i try to simply add a } it doesnt like it, i dont know why it thinks the thing is just left open?

[frosty dock]

maybe indenting your code properly would help

you have an extra end

[proper stratus]

wuh oh where did i mess up

ah

wait where?

[frosty dock]

at the bottom

[proper stratus]

oh do i not need to indent calculate

[frosty dock]

one closes the if statement, the next closes calculate

what's the third one doing

[frosty dock]

your indentation suggests it be part of loc_vars

[proper stratus]

right that doesnt need to be there

yep, that was the issue

sorry for bothering you

[frosty dock]

new lovely just dropped

[viscid bough]

im getting an error with my custom rarity stuff and idk why. Is this wrong?

SMODS.Rarity {
    key = "secret",
    loc_txt = {
        name = "Secret"
    },
    badge_colour = HEX("0f1a1b"),
    default_weight = 0.02
}

[tender gale]

When testing a mod, how do I spawn in a Joker to test?

[proper stratus]

debugPlus, hover over it in the collection and press 3

[tender gale]

ok thanks

can it spawn a modded or undiscovered joker

[proper stratus]

yea

[tender gale]

ok

[proper stratus]

hold tab to see all the things you can do with DebugPlus

[viscid bough]

oh and this is the error i suppose i should show it

[rare bobcat]

In the original fool

[frosty dock]

no in what I sent

[rare bobcat]

I’m confused

Let me get back to where I’m coding rq

[rare bobcat]

I’m at my desk

How the freak do I make fool better?

[tender gale]

how would I code a Joker that gives 6 money at the end of round and then decreases the amount of money you get from it by 1?

[rare bobcat]

Turtle bean and golden joker

[plain apex]

when the conditions are met on this joker it does a random one of these and bunch of other random stuff not listed here is there a way i can make the sound play when the text is actually displayed rather than the moment the hand is played?

                if outcome < 0.0667  then
                    -- x0 multiplier logic
                    card.ability.extra.mult = 0
                    G.GAME.pool_flags.crac_flag = true  -- Set Crac's unique flag
                    play_sound("fn_fuck")
                    return {
                        message = "FUCK"
                    }
                elseif outcome < 0.1334 then
                    -- x10 multiplier logic
                    card.ability.extra.mult = card.ability.extra.mult * 10
                    G.GAME.pool_flags.crac_flag = true  -- Set Crac's unique flag
                    play_sound("fn_lesgo")
                    return {
                        message = "les goo!"
                    }
                elseif outcome < 0.2001 then
                    -- -50 multiplier logic
                    card.ability.extra.mult = card.ability.extra.mult - 50
                    G.GAME.pool_flags.crac_flag = true  -- Set Crac's unique flag
                    play_sound("fn_wtf")
                    return {
                        message = "Man wtf...."
                    }

[tender gale]

What code does turtle bean have

[frosty dock]

if you're using latest steamodded, you can just put the sound into the return table like sound = 'fn_fuck',

[rare bobcat]

+5 hand size, -1 each round

[tender gale]

Where can I find its code

[rare bobcat]

Card.Lua I believe

[frosty dock]

in case you don't know, balatro is source accessible, you can extract the executable with 7-zip

[tender gale]

Card.lua is 5000 lines long, any tips on where to look?

[frosty dock]

if you're using any reasonable code editor, you have a search feature

[plain apex]

is this the most recent version of steammodded?

[rare bobcat]

Ctrl + f

[frosty dock]

no, this is exactly one month old

[wintry brook]

does anyone know what i have to do to force the play and discard ui to go away + make the hand drop down, like what happens when you use a consumable

[rare bobcat]

I still do now know how to modify the fool’s code to make it compatible with spectral cards

[tender gale]

Thanks for the help but I still can't understand what its saying

[ionic verge]

so this card trys to destroy the highest ranked card every hand played, but currently does nothing, does anyone have any input?

[rare bobcat]

Please Santa let somebody help me with this

[tender gale]

Here's the current code for gaining money, what code should I add so that it reduces the money and disappears when 0

[rare bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/please-santa-pleae-santa-put-me-on-the-nice-list-nice-list-please-nice-list-put-me-nice-list-gif-15987062729054605891

[rare bobcat]

Set money to money - money decrease

[plain apex]

yeah i got the new version with old calc and it just crashes

[frosty dock]

what i said is specific to new calc

[plain apex]

well i didn't even make that change yet lol

[frosty dock]

anyhow

can i see your mods folder?

[rare bobcat]

I still have zero clue how do do what I need to do

[tender gale]

Idk how to do that

[rare bobcat]

I have made a couple other qol changes

[rare bobcat]

I forgot the EXACT syntax but it should be x.y.money = x.y.money - x.y.money_decrease where x and y are various pathings that help find the variable

Let me find an example rq

[frosty dock]

hell nah i'm not debugging that mod list

figure out which mods are causing problems

you can remove half at a time

[rare bobcat]

I think my code is a bit fucked up but still working

So don’t use me as an example

Also does fool reject any spectrals as answers or does it simply not check spectrals

If I know this I can probably fix my issue

[plain apex]

my code is definitely fucked up on everything i've done but i've made a blind, decks, jokers, consumables, and boosters

[rare bobcat]

I’ve made 1 joker and my code’s first words were timmeh

[plain apex]

lol

[tender gale]

alr, thanks though

[wintry brook]

is it a specific game state that makes the UI go down? or using the consumeable itself? anyone know

[rare bobcat]

I’m modifying the source code for some simple qol stuff

[plain apex]

is there a way to play the sound at the correct time without updating smods lol

[rare bobcat]

If balatro were to update, would it overwrite any modifications in the source code?

[foggy carbon]

depends on if lovely also updates

IMO

[frosty dock]

yes, this is why you don't modify the source code directly and use lovely instead

[rare bobcat]

I just say fuck it we ball to this

[frosty dock]

if you're using lovely patched, the gamee updating doesn't change anything unless your patch target got changed

[rare bobcat]

Is it a bad idea? Yes. Do I care? No.

[frosty dock]

to that i say you'll regret that

[rare bobcat]

And this is purely for modifying things in the base game

For new content then lovely is used

[wintry brook]

can you even release a mod thats just the base game with modified code like that

[frosty dock]

no lovely is literally used for modifying things in the base game

[frosty dock]

I would say no but someone has literally done that

[wintry brook]

unless its for yourself, i think releasing that would breach TOS

[rare bobcat]

I’m sumply doing this for myself

[wintry brook]

since its just the games original source code

[rare bobcat]

No releasing this

[wintry brook]

might as well carry on then, but lovely patches are really simple imo

[zealous glen]

I mean they're not allowed to

[frosty dock]

i strongly recommend you convert your changes to lovely patches still, you'll have a hard time recreating it when the game updates anyway

[zealous glen]

#📜・modding-rules

[frosty dock]

it is not posted on this discord

[zealous glen]

I reckon it's still not allowed

[rare bobcat]

You goons are not getting your hands on observatory tarot deck without doing it yourself (goons as in non derogatory)

[frosty dock]

wait actually someone's tried that too

[wintry brook]

its against the law i thought, redistributing source code

even if its modified

[tender gale]

What's wrong with my code? The name and description are showing up blank

[rare bobcat]

So this is worse for me because I don’t know how to simply modify the things

[frosty dock]

doesn't stop some people from doing it anyways

[zealous glen]

Instead of modifying the game code, hope the Ghosts of Christmas convince thunk to add automatically calculated card destruction to vanilla

[rare bobcat]

I can add a new joker with some work

But modifying the fool’s code to include spectral cards?

Or the other small things I did?

Nah

[wintry brook]

lovely patch, yeah

lovely patches are literally what you're doing, you type in the code you want to add and a target of where that code should be placed

its borderline no different

[rare bobcat]

The thing is, I have no clue how to do that and I heavily doubt there’s a YouTube tutorial

[zealous glen]

Isn't there an explanation in the lovely github

it's also not too hard

[wintry brook]

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "functions/state_events.lua"
pattern = '''
-- TARGET: card destroyed when played
'''
position = "after"
payload = '''
if SMODS.has_enhancement(scoring_hand[i], 'm_imaginary_werewolfCard') and not scoring_hand[i].debuff and scoring_hand[i].config.cardsToDestroy and #scoring_hand[i].config.cardsToDestroy > 0 then
    for j=1, #scoring_hand[i].config.cardsToDestroy do
        if SMODS.shatters(scoring_hand[i].config.cardsToDestroy[j]) then
            scoring_hand[i].config.cardsToDestroy[j].shattered = true
        else 
            scoring_hand[i].config.cardsToDestroy[j].destroyed = true
        end 
        cards_destroyed[#cards_destroyed+1] = scoring_hand[i].config.cardsToDestroy[j]
    end
end
'''

it doesnt get more complicated than this tbh, minus some quirks

[rare bobcat]

I just remembered I can ask for help more directly than that

[zealous glen]

you just have to find a line to add code before, after, or at

[wintry brook]

i just say what file to target, what code is the spot to add my code & before/after/at, then my code

[rare bobcat]

I lowkey forgot that a majority of people will help if they’re able to, am I cooked?

[zealous glen]

[wintry brook]

as long as you can remember everything you added, converting to lovely patch wont take too long

[foggy carbon]

^ (this is the big reason I avoided updating my Pokemon Essentials project for so long. Could not remember all my changes)

[rare bobcat]

I increased temperance and hermit caps, added observatory voucher to tarot deck, and that was about it

The fool thing is something I haven’t done yet

[tender gale]

Why not just make a new tarot card that creates the last used spectral

[rare bobcat]

I just want to include it in the base fool

[tender gale]

yeah but if that's not possible then try something else

[rare bobcat]

I know for 100% sure it’s possible, I just don’t know how

If I rebuilt balatro from the ground up, I could make that change

[tender gale]

anyone know how to fix this?

[frosty dock]

all you really have to do is patch this line (1342) in misc_functions to include spectrals

[rare bobcat]

Thank you

[wintry brook]

im not sure why it wouldnt be showing up, but i see the color tags are capitalized when they should be lower case

[rare bobcat]

Is payload what’s printed or is print what’s printed?

[zealous glen]

text

instead of txt

[rare bobcat]

If print is what’s printed, what’s payload

And vice versa

[frosty dock]

there's no print

[ionic verge]

trying to get this to remove the highest ranked card in hand every hand played, now coming upon an interesting bug

[rare bobcat]

So I’m looking at the wrong thing

I am

[frosty dock]

there's pattern, which is the line in the file you're matching against, and payload is the code you're inserting

[rare bobcat]

I copied the wrong thing

[ionic verge]

anyone have any thoughts?

[rare bobcat]

so something like target = "back.lua" pattern = "({localize{type = 'name_text', key = 'v_tarot_merchant', set = 'Voucher'}, localize{type = 'name_text', key = 'v_planet_merchant', set = 'Voucher'}," position = 'at' payload = "{localize{type = 'name_text', key = 'v_tarot_merchant', set = 'Voucher'}, localize{type = 'name_text', key = 'v_planet_merchant', set = 'Voucher'}, localize{type = 'name_text', key = 'v_overstock_norm', set = 'Voucher'}}"

[frosty dock]

your code is wrapped in an event

which tries to re-run itself if you don't return true

[ionic verge]

can i return both that and the remove = true?

or should i just unwrap it

[frosty dock]

you can't return that from the event out of the original function

because it gets run later

in this case you just shouldn't use an event

[ionic verge]

ok

i remember earlier someone saying i should try that

is all

[rare bobcat]

And would I need other code for that to run?

[ionic verge]

and now its just not doing anything at all

all i did was remove the event

[frosty dock]

oh i just saw, remove_playing_cards calculates when playing cards are removed

[ionic verge]

oh so its literally playing cards

not playing cards like what those all are called

[frosty dock]

no, playing cards as in what those are called

[ionic verge]

oh ok nevermind

[frosty dock]

but it's not the context that calculates if you should remove a card

it gets called when cards are being removed

[ionic verge]

ooooh

ok so
preferably id like for this to happen after scoring, so replace it with context.after?

[frosty dock]

if context.cardarea == G.hand and context.destroy_card then
  local highest = nil
  for _,v in ipairs(G.hand.cards) do
    if not highest or v:get_id() > highest:get_id() then highest = v end
  end
  if context.destroy_card == highest then return { remove = true } end
end

if I'm not crazy because it's 3am, this should work

[ionic verge]

so real

whats with the _ in that for loop

[frosty dock]

that's just the index

which I'm calling _ because I'm not using it

could have just as well called it i or j or k or context

[tender gale]

alr thanks