💻・modding-dev

[opal spade]

because smods assumes you're trying to use an atlas you've registered so it already does all the prefix work for you unless you specifically tell it not to

[silent pawn]

oh i see

[brisk rose]

is there an smods.suit or is black magic required for custom suits?

[edgy reef]

There is

No documentation yet though so it's basically black magic

[brisk rose]

yeah I found the code, lol

[wintry solar]

there are plenty of suit mods to steal code from though

[brisk rose]

whoops, sent illegible screenshot

[brisk rose]

yeah, I'll have to give them a look

oh that actually looks really easy

[wooden nexus]

Trying to remove all vanilla content from card pools

At least... obtainable from shop/pack wise

[maiden phoenix]

Oh I achieved this

Thought failsafe options will show up

[brisk rose]

just patch the failsafes /hj

[wintry solar]

god, why did I decide to allow soul sprites to be added to any card T_T

[autumn berry]

how do I set the debug info level so sendDebugMessage actually shows in the prompt?

[tepid crow]

mod button -> (steamodded) config

[autumn berry]

ohh I've been looking for some kind of flag in the scropt, that works thanks

[wooden nexus]

That's fine. i'm making stakes of them rn

Idk what's wrongf

[tepid crow]

you should probably check how SDM did it? that way you won't need to enter each banned key

[brisk rose]

Lol is it giving you touble now?

[wooden nexus]

I can't dm them and I don't wanna ping

[tepid crow]

it's on their github

1 sec

[limpid wing]

So, i need help, someone can show me a example of take the ownership of a vanilla joker please

Im very noob on that things

[wintry solar]

I'm just trying to make the selector look pretty 😢

[brisk rose]

ah I see

[wintry solar]

and it's not letting me add soul sprites to those texture selectors

the actual functionality in game works fine I think

[limpid wing]

But soul works like a legendary joker texture right?, so the texture will by 97x idontrememberthesizelol

[tepid crow]

https://github.com/SDM0/SDM_0-s-Stuff/blob/dev/lovely.toml#L51

[limpid wing]

And change that entire texture

[tepid crow]

should be documented on the steamodded wiki here: https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/03.-API-Documentation#taking-ownership

[wooden nexus]

Okay well regardless, how do i fix my problem?

[limpid wing]

Thanks larswijn

[hardy viper]

made a high-res screenshot of a large amount of le cards file at https://mega.nz/file/wINnxbpI#078Uafl5xgYFtkAchBKYCWETIbUvigzCX8OciEkkVR8 (to bypass discord compression if you want to download it for whatever reason)

[limpid wing]

Can you send it here in a zip, mega dont work in my country

[hardy viper]

sure

discord still compressed it

original zip is over 40 MB

hm

meh still plenty of quality

its like 10000 pixels wide so unless you compress it to hell and back itll still look alright

[limpid wing]

I have a question, you have windows right,

[hardy viper]

oh

lol

[limpid wing]

Because windows do these things with the size o the files

[hardy viper]

kinda goofy of windows

[limpid wing]

Example, the 8gb usb drive, but you put it your computer and is 7.4gb

[tepid crow]

not sure tbh

[wooden nexus]

Yooo Ortalab stuff I see

[tepid crow]

could possibly be some kind of prefix shenanigans

[hardy viper]

i kinda wish ortalab didnt have like 12 jokers that just did nothing and had the locked appearance

[tepid crow]

might be fixed by renaming the stakes to start with your mod prefix?

[wooden nexus]

HAHA

[wooden nexus]

Got it

[tepid crow]

that worked???

wow the stake prefixes are broken

you might want to let the people in https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1209564621644505158 know haha

[wintry solar]

... what did you change it to?

[wooden nexus]

Balatroless_MO_red

well prefix_key

[tepid crow]

I guess changing the above_stake to include the mod prefix would've also worked

[wintry solar]

OH

[tepid crow]

game_object:523 should probably have a mod prefix attempt though

[wintry solar]

I understand why the ortalab one's are different now

[narrow pollen]

...anyone have a clue as to why putting a get_straight(hand) function in my mod's lua file doesn't override it like it used to? still getting used to steamodded 1012b

or whatever the current version is

[brisk rose]

It's megabytes vs mebibytes

The ones that are 1024^2 bytes are actually technically mebibytes

True megabytes are 1000000 bytes

[brisk rose]

.

[limpid wing]

but on linux and mac that is fixed right?

i will check it myself

[hardy viper]

oh understandable

[tepid crow]

"fixed" is relative

you could argue both are correct

[tepid crow]

it... should just work?

I don't recall SMODS' overrides loading later or anything

[wintry solar]

can you send the code?

[narrow pollen]

local get_straight_ref = get_straight
function get_straight(hand)
  local base = get_straight_ref(hand)
  local results = {}
  local can_loop = next(find_joker('Superposition'))
  local target = next(find_joker('Four Fingers')) and 4 or 5
  local can_skip = next(find_joker('Shortcut'))
  local skipped = false
  if can_loop then
    sendDebugMessage("Superposition detected.")
  end
  if can_skip then
    sendDebugMessage("Shortcut detected.")
  end

  if not(can_loop) or #hand < target then
    return base
  else
    sendDebugMessage("Method needed.")
    return base
  end
end```

[wintry solar]

you've got debug messages turned on, right?

I turned my brain on 🥳

[limpid wing]

WOW

[tidal ice]

for future reference, where can I find documentation about modding this game, and possible other tools that may help me

[tepid sky]

ngl, i like the idea of reusing blinds characteristics, @tepid crow guess what i am about to suggest ;)

[brisk rose]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki
and just referencing other mods.the steamodded code itself

[hybrid iris]

i wonder if its like,
possible to use lovely to patch the code of other mods

[frosty dock]

yes actually

you can target =[SMODS modid "filename.lua"]

[hybrid iris]

oh woah

coolio

[wooden nexus]

#1299906188649037954

[tepid sky]

ty!

[autumn berry]

did the way steamodded handles mod config reciently change? my settings aren't loading all the sudden. It should just save your SMODS.current_mod.config table right?

[hardy viper]

would be helpful to see the code you use to handle your config

also just check steamodded commits if you want to know whether something changed

[autumn berry]

just a bunch of bools

[hardy viper]

must either be something wrong with your writing to the table or a weird steamodded change idk

doesn't seem like there have been any config affecting smods changes recently

[wooden nexus]

Okay having trouble getting Vanilla only to work

It keeps trying to load ortalab loteria cards

[lime trench]

https://x.com/zaphrice/status/1850343456960565698?s=46&t=cJUMkrBvXPpcccAnNeHQyQ Back from my hiatus to put these cards into the game

Zaphy Cosplay (@Zaphrice) on X

Playing analogue @BalatroGame while we're visiting family today.

Twitter · Oct 27, 2024, 1:07 AM

[tidal ice]

I was already planning on an AR card so yeah

[vague island]

whats wrong with my code (Trying to give x2 mult for each "j_fnj_gerald" you own when scoring a king)

calculate = function(self, card, context)
if context.setting_blind and not (context.blueprint_card or self).getting_sliced then
local geraldcount = 0
for i = 1, #G.jokers.cards do
if
G.jokers.cards[i].ability.name == "Gerald"
then
geraldcount = geraldcount + 1
end
end
if geraldcount > 18 then
geraldcount = 18
elseif not geraldcount then
geraldcount = 0
end
end
if context.individual then
if context.other_card:get_id() == 13 then
if geraldcount then
for i = 1, geraldcount do
message = '._.'
Xmult_mod = card.ability.extra.Xmult
end
end
end
end
end,
}

[wintry solar]

can you send the j_fnj_gerald object?

[regal shoal]

Came back on my project because of 1.0.0 and I've made it work again 🥰

[tepid sky]

got me comfused in 13 seconds

[shell timber]

oh yeah i remember that

[wooden nexus]

Oh yeah aren't these jokers as cards?

[tidal ice]

HUH???

[wooden nexus]

Alright, so I'm trying to make Balatro Only as a stake.

I'm using Ortalab only as a base and well... I can't get it to just have base editions

So far it works for playing cards

[wintry solar]

editions don't respect pools at the moment

[wooden nexus]

Oh that's all?

[wooden nexus]

Gotcha. What about blinds?

[wintry solar]

I don't think blinds do either

[wooden nexus]

alright, I'm gonna check to see if the Loteria bug still occurs

[vague island]

SMODS.Joker {
key = 'gerald',
loc_txt = {
name = 'Gerald',
text = {
'Does something...',
'{C:inactive,s:0.7,E:1}Uhh... who is this?{}'
}
},
pos = { x = 0, y = 0 },
cost = 3,
rarity = 1,
set_card_type_badge = gerald,
unlocked = true,
discovered = true,
blueprint_compat = false,
eternal_compat = true,
perishable_compat = false,
atlas = 'atlasgerald',
calculate = function(self, card, context)
if context.joker_main then
card_eval_status_text(card, 'extra', nil, nil, nil, {message = '._.', colour = G.C.CHIPS})
end
end
}

[wintry solar]

yeah thought so, you're checking for something that doesnt exist

[vague island]

?

wdym

[tepid crow]

try using codeblocks btw

```lua
function ...
```

turns into

function ...

[wintry solar]

your joker doesnt have a name like you're trying to check

[vague island]

oh i thought the loc_text name was what it checked for?

how should i fix this?

[wintry solar]

use SMODS.find_card

like I said the other day

[vague island]

i still dont understand that

how would i integrate the table into the code?

[vague island]

can i give it a name?

[tepid crow]

the size of the returned table is the amount of geralds

[vague island]

oh ok

makes sense

lol im dumb

[tepid crow]

the table itself is just a list of owned jokers/consumables found that match the search

[vague island]

weird

it isnt working still

wait hold on

nope

it borked

whats wrong with my code (Trying to give x2 mult for each "j_fnj_gerald" you own when scoring a king)
calculate = function(self, card, context)
if context.setting_blind and not (context.blueprint_card or self).getting_sliced then
local geralds = SMODS.find_card(j_fnj_gerald)
local geraldcount = #geralds
end
if context.individual then
if context.other_card:get_id() == 13 then
if geraldcount then
for i = 1, geraldcount do
message = '._.'
Xmult_mod = card.ability.extra.Xmult
end
end
end
end
end,
}

[frosty dock]

can you please use codeblocks

the key j_fnj_gerald needs to be in quotes, else you're referring to a variable named that (which doesn't exist)

[vague island]

sorry ...

[tepid crow]

my brother in christ not for your normal messages, for your code

[vague island]

i kno

just having fun with it nbd

[tidal ice]

honestly looking at this code makes it seem like making jokers isnt too hard

best thing is I have some experience with lua

big win

[teal estuary]

curious: can you make a joker "gain" retriggers, like how they can gain mult or chips?

[nocturne garnet]

spooky

[vague island]

still doesnt work

[crisp coral]

what if we made luchador... but better.....

[frosty dock]

yeah there's multiple other things wrong with this

I'm too tired to go through explaining everything though

[vague island]

oh

okie dokie

[leaden prairie]

where can i find mods?

[tidal ice]

#1209506514763522108

[hybrid iris]

for some odd reason my mod icon is loading for mods other than itself

[spare elk]

that's... odd

[brisk rose]

I remember zen did the same thing

[limpid wing]

Rare

[brisk rose]

https://github.com/Amvoled/Taikomochi/pull/3

This pr made to taikomochi might help

[hybrid iris]

oh huh

[limpid wing]

Can you show you show the code of the smods icon

[hybrid iris]

its, just this

[hybrid iris]

ahhh i see

ohh okay yeah that was the issue sjdhskdjh

[hybrid iris]

,,,well, yeah, thats, essentially the same thing kjdfhsksdfjh

no worries though!

[limpid wing]

i know sjssjs

[hybrid iris]

the issue was apparently just the SMODS.init thing

[hybrid iris]

okay okay cool sdfkjhsdkfjh

[timid parrot]

how do I test my custom-made boss blinds?

[brisk rose]

you can reroll blinds with debug-plus I think, but there might be an easier way

@frosty dock Why isn't there just a full skeleton header to copy? Ofc I'll just grab one from some other mod, it'd just be convientent to have it there on the wiki

[timid parrot]

how do I use the mod?

[brisk rose]

hold tab to bring up the menu

[timid parrot]

thank you

[brisk rose]

np :3

[edgy reef]

Prob cause there’s plans to switch to json format for mod metadata.

At for why it’s not like that rn

Updating that part of the doc to be a skeleton w/ comment is likely better regardless of legacy or other format though.

Wait json doesn’t have comma syntax

[brisk rose]

also tbh the install guide should be a different page than any of the coding doc

I always forget it's on the same page

[brisk rose]

fair enough, I presume that's one of the things keeping 1.0 in prepetual alpha

"alpha"

[edgy reef]

It’s in the mod index PR if you want to take a look at it.

[crisp coral]

will we have 1.0.0 beta before gta6

[edgy reef]

Perpetual dev cycles my beloved

[brisk rose]

I don't mind at all personally, it just confuses newbies

lol

[languid mirage]

with debugplus you can go to collection and press 3 on a boss blind to spawn it

[stiff locust]

how do you destroy a card again

[wintry solar]

card:start_dissolve()

[stiff locust]

thanks

if i use card:get_id() on a face card does it return J/Q/K or 11/12/13

i think it's the latter but just to be sure

[wintry solar]

🤔 which one is preferable here?

[maiden phoenix]

Menu bloat strikes once more

Id go with left

[crisp coral]

left

[limpid flint]

Why not just texture

[crisp coral]

i don't have to make "remove-textures-from-options" do i

[limpid flint]

Deck skins are textures too?

[crisp coral]

completely different ui so i think it's fine to be separate

[limpid flint]

But I think ppl are going to be confused

[maiden phoenix]

Remove-options-from-options

[crisp coral]

disagree

[maiden phoenix]

How

They literally installed the mod and it has a diff color

[limpid flint]

As in why don't they just all in "textures"

[stiff locust]

near means within 1 line right

in the context of an error message

also is there a way I can check the stake sticker for a specific joker

[wintry solar]

Because I cba reimplementing the deck skins stuff into my nice new shiny ui when the current one works fine

[brisk rose]

just make it a top level tab if installed /hj

[stiff locust]

/halfjoker

[cursive ocean]

Is there a way to generate lovely patches from something like a diff? Or do you have to write them manually? And how would you load a patch in your mod?

[stiff locust]

idk how to do the first part
but you add a file in the mod folder called lovely.toml and it just works

you put the patch in that file

[gaunt thistle]

not currently unfortunately

it would be nice to just support diffs but they get complicated when you want to apply them out of order

[stiff locust]

make sure the mod folder isn't nested when you do that btw, lovely is lazy and doesn't check more than two folders in for some reason, if the lovely patch isn't working it's usually because the mod folder is nested

[cursive ocean]

Sweet, thanks imma give it a go

holy crap it works

well. almost

I think what I'm trying to do might conflict with other patches. Since the line given in the error doesn't seem to make sense for what the error actually says

[stiff locust]

this happens a lot, in this case

go to the mods folder and find the lovely folder

and you can find the lua files that were patched, they get dumped after a crash

the error lines should line up with these lua files

[cursive ocean]

sweet

[stiff locust]

you can also find every crash log in there

the dump is only the most recent crash iirc

[cursive ocean]

Thanks 😄 At least I see what's going wrong now

[stiff locust]

yeah that's a good thing

i wish I knew where my error was

there's one more { than } in my code

and I don't know where it is and the code won't tell me where it is

and it crashes

so

[cursive ocean]

its working >: D
https://imgur.com/a/mcH5SEF

thanks for da help

[slender egret]

Ok so this might be weird but a friend of mine who is also my comp sci tutor just gave me an assignment to mod balatro. Is there anything I should know before I start to tackle the impossible?

[stiff locust]

it's not impossible

[tepid sky]

lol, but it really depends on what the assignment is

[stiff locust]

it's actually pretty easy if you have any coding knowledge especially if you learn it properly

I jumped straight into the deep end and I'm getting functional content out

[slender egret]

I’m literally in comp sci 101 rn

[tepid sky]

i had none 👍

[slender egret]

I have some programming knowledge in Java and Python but nothing too crazy

[tepid sky]

(Still have none but that don't matter)

[stiff locust]

then you'll probably be fine, just don't be surprised when you find out lua does not use indents

you have to be very very careful with the placement of your ends

the lack of required indentation and the specific end placements is the stuff that gets me all the time

[stiff locust]

you should be alright then

[slender egret]

Alr- sounds good

[stiff locust]

also one more thing

since balatro modding is open source

[hardy viper]

$5 ill make the mod for you /j

[stiff locust]

if you see a mod that does something you wanna do

go look at the code

go borrow their code

[slender egret]

$4 and a cookie. That’s the best I can do /j

[hardy viper]

thats a bargain fr

[stiff locust]

also what are you gonna mod

did they say anything specific or was it open ended

[slender egret]

Well they said to just change the names of the hands and if possible to code in the scoring to show before the hand is played

The second one was just one of his complaints with the game lol

[stiff locust]

that first one is pretty easy

[slender egret]

Yeah it’s just changing some text in the files

The second is tougher

[tepid sky]

2nd one already is a mod for right?

[stiff locust]

you should use a lovely patch, directly changing the files is iffy

[slender egret]

Lovely patch?

[hardy viper]

or do neither and use steamoddeds inbuilt localization changing

because it lets you do that iirc

[stiff locust]

or that, yeah

lovely patches are pretty easy

[tepid sky]

if you know how 🤷‍♂️

but thats with everything

[stiff locust]

it's not hard to figure out

[wintry solar]

you can't lovely patch loc files

[stiff locust]

oh you can't

?

[wintry solar]

not unless it changed recently

[stiff locust]

i see

i guess you'd use the steamodded method then

[slender egret]

lol he said I should do it through melonlpader

[hardy viper]

bros so out of date

wait

melonloader is

[stiff locust]

okay but steamodded is better

[hardy viper]

unity

huh

balatro is NOT a unity game

[slender egret]

I KNOW

[hardy viper]

😭

[stiff locust]

what the hell

[royal ridge]

i'm not sure how to feel on required indentation
on one hand it is so dumb, i hate whitespace being important
on the other hand it's like, why am i hating it, i'll indent it properly anyway

[royal ridge]

.

[slender egret]

It’s hard to argue with him tho since he’s literally a Google admin so whatever he says I blindly trust

[stiff locust]

it's very easy to argue with him in this case

[wintry solar]

he sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about in this case

[slender egret]

I know I just told him that it’s on lua

[stiff locust]

the engine is called love2d right

[slender egret]

But he’s working rn so 🤷

[wintry solar]

it is, yes

[stiff locust]

love2d ~= unity

oh yeah the symbol for not equals is ~= and not != and it annoys me

[slender egret]

Ok so what I need to do is download steammodder

And just get started

[wintry solar]

just got the eternal. rental and perishable stickers to go I think

[brisk rose]

ayyyyyyy

also, my mod's name is too long, lol

[limpid wing]

my poor racoon's Fortu reaction

[slender egret]

G… gay suit…

I’m sending this to my boyfriend

[brisk rose]

It's called Homos, lmfao

hehehe

#1298894429159166043

Obviously not meant derogatorily. I mean the "Gay" in my name isn't just for show

[limpid wing]

actually, the balacord name is cut too

Balacord Playing Car

https://tenor.com/view/ball-car-flip-gif-12220396595156908000

[brisk rose]

I should just wite it in text speak

Pr Rcoon's Frtne

*giggles*

[limpid wing]

Or racoon's fortune

[brisk rose]

Well that kinda loses the wordplay

[brisk rose]

like this nonsense doesn't

[wintry solar]

I thought we'd made it so it didn't cut off

maybe that got lost in a dead branch somewhere along the way

[brisk rose]

No Laughing Matter works? which feels almost as long

well I guess I only have 2 letters cut off

so that scans

I'd love to do Poor Coon's Fortune, but that specific abbreviation of raccoon has unescapable unfortunate connotations in most contexts.

[brisk rose]

Is the halo around the homo suit graphics just because they're so light colored?

Can't see any reason for them in the actual images

[maiden phoenix]

Is there a vanilla or SMODS function to copy an Object item?

[cursive ocean]

i dont know why i was tagged in this but hell yeah

[brisk rose]

whoopsies

I had hit reply to you about something different and forgot to clear it

but thanks :3

[cursive ocean]

😄

[slender egret]

hey I cant find the mods folder in my balatro game directory

[brisk rose]

it's in %appdats%/balatro

[silent pawn]

Users/Appdata/Roaming/Balatro/Mods

i think

[brisk rose]

yeah I think in Windows the %appdata% is a shortcut there

[silent pawn]

yea %appdata% for roaming

[brisk rose]

been a while wince I've used the old winders

[silent pawn]

what do you use arch or smt

id use linux but games support is so bad

[slender egret]

yeah I dont see appdata anywhere

the folder is blank when I open it

[brisk rose]

mint

[brisk rose]

you're on windows right?

[tepid crow]

press win+r and type %appdata%

[slender egret]

yeah I got it

didnt realize its hidden by default

[silent pawn]

show hidden files

its a setting somewhere on file explorer

oh you got it nvm

[brisk rose]

oh yeah I forgot microcock winblows does that

not like linux doesn't

I'm just so used to never actually hiding hidden files

[silent pawn]

what is the point of hidden files if you can just still see them

[brisk rose]

to protect the user from themselves, lol

[silent pawn]

true

yea i guess its like a dont touch unless you know what you are doing thing

[brisk rose]

it's just easier on linux. to hide a file or folder. just name it starting with '.'

and to show hidden stuff it's just a right click checkbox in the file manager

my modpack is technically in a hidden folder, lol

all 3 of these are just in "/home/[me]/.steam/steam/steamapps/compatdata/2379780/pfx/drive_c/users/steamuser/AppData/Roaming/Balatro"

but I have them bookmarked for obvious reasons

[slender egret]

ah

well I have it downloaded now, time to start

[brisk rose]

path is an absolute mess because proton

[brisk rose]

.working is where I keep my github repos and stuff (besides the modpack which gets its own folder)

[brisk rose]

ayy nice

So, for the suits part of my mod, I kinda wanna have 3 options (besides off). One is they aren't in the base deck, but are in pool for standard packs and card-spawning spectrals, one is they replace the vanillia suits totallly in pool and in the deck, and one is where they coexist with the vanillia suits in an unwiedly 8 suit system (they'll be 4 of them even though only 2 are made so far). The last of which seems to be the default. How do I make the other 2 options?

[slender egret]

ok so, first thing imma do is just make a custom challenge. that shouldnt be too hard... right?

[slender egret]

if it were me:
option 1)
create the suit first but have the deck include no cards, sort of like checkered deck
option 2)
overwrite the suit completely in the code, make diamonds = newSuit and just go for there, overwriting the sprites and whatnot

[brisk rose]

well smods.suit exists, so I don't have to go quite so nuclear

and for the last one where it doesn't spawn in deck, but does in standard packs and stuff, that's basically what bunco does

it's only the example of replacing the standard suits in decks I don't really have an example for

[slender egret]

again, just overwrite the code for the specific suit, change the suit ID to something else

unless im stupid and that doesnt work

[hardy viper]

how 2 make madeline not look demonic

[brisk rose]

it'd work I think, I just want them to be independent suits in other contexts, so I don't think it'd be ideal

it'd be weird if jokers for hearts worked on ringtails in one mode but not another, for instance

[slender egret]

thats why you'd change the ID, so that the hearts jokers dont work anymore

basically make the suit, then update the vanilla suit to be equal to the new one

so that either way you can have it

[brisk rose]

well 2 of the 4 suits are made and showing the default behavior of being added to decks. So instead of 4 13 card suits they have 6. I guess kinda what you're saying is to find how it loads those sets for the decks, and replace it with my suits, while also making sure they don't load as seperate suits

which was kinda also what I was thinking

[slender egret]

pretty much

[wintry solar]

look at my lovely list of things left to do on textures

[brisk rose]

To continue what I accidentally put here:
#1300294374575308983 message

So, I presume there's a standard deck generating function that adds all the suits? Because when I add the suits normally they seem to add on top of the standard ones, even in modded decks

[brisk rose]

ayy very cool

[wintry solar]

I would assume so, though I haven’t done any work with suits

[brisk rose]

@frosty dock you probably have more insight here, having worked with suits (and possibly written SMODS.suit?)

[frosty dock]

written and rewritten, actually

[brisk rose]

(makes sense, lol)

[frosty dock]

all of this can be done using in_pool functions

the second argument may be a table with an initial_deck field set, indicating the call is for generating a starting deck

just with this, you get the following behavior that can be configured for each suit:

• false always [never appear]
• false on initial_deck, true otherwise [in pool for standard packs etc., but not added to starting deck]
• true on initial_deck, false otherwise [not in pool for standard packs etc., but added to starting deck (idk what this would be useful for)]
• true always [always able to appear]

[spare elk]

jokeline

or clowneline?

[frosty dock]

to exclude vanilla suits instead of your suits, just swap the functions around basically

you might take ownership of vanilla suits to set their in_pool to always return false, then they don't appear at all and you can do with your other suits as you please

[brisk rose]

what letter prefixes the keys for suits?

or are they just bare for vanillia suits?

[molten ice]

sorry for the interjection but is this the same for the SMODS.Rank?
I tried it out earlier today and the standard pack RNG seems to calls in_pool with initial_deck = true as well

[brisk rose]

sorry for the noobish question, but what wouls the syntax be for this?

I think I understand the rest of it pretty well

[tepid crow]

[suit]:in_pool({initial_deck = true})?

[frosty dock]

huh, it appears that is the case even though it shouldn't be

[molten ice]

I assume you meant this?

in_pool = function(self, args) --Returns true if it's in the pool, false otherwise
        --Checks if it's initial deck spawning
        if args and args.initial_deck then
          return <whatever here>
        end
        --Other cases for standard packs
        return <whatever here>
end

[frosty dock]

i think i just never reviewed that? I have to assume there's a reason for it to have been done this way but it might have been by mistake

[brisk rose]

ah I saw that in bunco and wasn't sure where args came from

guess it's a vanillia or steamodded table

[molten ice]

from a quick looks it's a part of the lovely patch injected by steamodded

[frosty dock]

nevermind, standard packs just don't respect the pool

[brisk rose]

for ranks I guess? because I definitely don't get bunco exotics in them unless they're "discovered"

[slender egret]

what to do about table index = nil?

[molten ice]

the function does seems to get called and is respected I think
It's a part of pseudorandom_element function (functions/misc_functions.lua) and it does work accordingly to the return value bc I ended up workaround it by making it checks for game-specific global flags instead that sets to false at the beginning of the game, but flips to true afterwards at some point
(the second line is just inspect(args))

[brisk rose]

what am I missing?

They're not in standard packs or spawning at all now

[molten ice]

probably the same problem as I had with ranks earlier, actually.
I just modify bunco exotic suit in_pool function to check with prints and it seems like initial_deck was true in the standard pack as well, so even theirs would never spawn in the standard packs at all

[brisk rose]

Pretty sure I've seen them there?

weird

[molten ice]

could have been recent steammodded change?
I do remember buying exotic suits from shops as well, but apparently I tried it just now and shop playing cards from Magic Trick vouchers also triggers initial_deck = true as well

[brisk rose]

not a huge deal as the mode without them in initial deck is kinda an afterthought anyway

but not ideal

[molten ice]

I could test some theory rn, but if it works am I allowed to make pull request to the steammodded repo and/or at least report what happened here?

[wintry solar]

Yeah you can make a PR if you fix it 👍

[molten ice]

thank you very much 👍
I'm on it

[brisk rose]

would it be possible/not totally batshit, to use lua string matching to exclude jokers which mention the original suits in their description when playing without them?

[slender egret]

string.find on the description of the cards

[tepid crow]

I think he's asking if he should, not how

[brisk rose]

indeed

[tepid crow]

anyway sounds like more of a usecase for the tag list

[brisk rose]

Keep in mind a blacklist is untennable with 1300 jokers

[slender egret]

hm, alr

[brisk rose]

nor would it make sense to rely on something that mod makers need to implement

[brisk rose]

tbh I'm probably gonna do it even if it's a bad idea, lol

worst case the game hangs for a couple seconds as it's iterating over all the jokers

nbd

[tepid crow]

oh yeah that is a WIP and will not be available for use for the next couple of months I think lol

[brisk rose]

got the vanillia suits out of pool (the spades and diamonds are 'different suits' and placeholders) but how do I get the ui to not act like there's 8 suits?

ignore the mismatching UI display, lol

[tepid crow]

you mean in the bottom left?

[brisk rose]

yeah and it's also why the buttons are off the screen I think

[molten ice]

and done! I'll post the information in the Steammodded thread as well in a bit

[tepid crow]

hmm that seems more like the fault of cardsleeves 😅

[brisk rose]

maybe, but it wouldn't be an issue if the unused suits weren't there, lol

or even if they were all one one line (they would fit juding from the line above)

[tepid crow]

yeah cardsleeves is the mod that puts those first 4 suits on the same line

[brisk rose]

well if it did it for the next 4 we'd be all good :P

though I'd still want them gone probably. They're literally unobtainable with this setup

[tepid crow]

yeah I can do that if you want

[brisk rose]

yeah that'd be cool :3

[frosty dock]

tbf the UI should be changed to exclude suits that are both absent and not currently obtainable

[brisk rose]

yeah that'd be very useful

tbh bunco exotics don't show up there

so it must only be the vanillia suits that always show up

[tepid crow]

unobtainable suits are hard to quantify though

wouldn't it only be decks that start with that specific suit?

[brisk rose]

I mean all decks start with all initial_deck suits, unless otherwise configured

[frosty dock]

I was just thinking of checking in_pool's return value

[brisk rose]

yeah makes sense

[molten ice]

bunco's suit has hidden = true property and iirc that's read by the deck preview UI so you could probably take ownership of the vanilla suit and adds them, but if you managed to zero out the suit, it would disappear from the HUD as well

[wintry solar]

Would it check for the existence of them in your deck first?

[brisk rose]

oh that's what that does

yeah I can just add that

[wintry solar]

I could see a situation where people create a suit that can only be accessed from consumables

[brisk rose]

I already took ownership to remove them from the pool

[molten ice]

I noticed that when I had to completely rewrite deck preview UI for my own mod to support it but for rank lol
(ended up really messy though so I don't think I can release it by itself for public)

[frosty dock]

right, hidden exists, I actually forgot

i guess we can hide if no cards of that suit are present and either hidden is set or in_pool is returning false

[brisk rose]

ayy, perfect

[frosty dock]

I'll still add that, hidden keeps its current functionality

oh also

[tepid crow]

wouldn't only using hidden allow for more control?

[frosty dock]

should steamodded use the 4-wide tally boxes by default if there's more than the base 4 suits?

[brisk rose]

I don't see why not

[brisk rose]

well it doesn't actually hide if they're in deck

[frosty dock]

right, there's no need for this change

[brisk rose]

so i don't think it matters

[tidal ice]

is that a yaoi suit

[frosty dock]

it shouldn't hide while in deck either way

[brisk rose]

It's called Homos, lol

[tidal ice]

Amazing

[brisk rose]

part of my StupidSuits

#1298894429159166043

[tepid crow]

no, but would you really want the suit indicator to be hidden once you have it in your deck?

[brisk rose]

No release until there's actually jokers and tarots to make use of the suits

[brisk rose]

ofc not, just saying that I don't think any control would be removed

[tepid crow]

if someone wants the suit indicator to show

[brisk rose]

I guess control to clutter

[tepid crow]

setting hidden=false won't always make it show, which is confusing

[brisk rose]

but I guess that's just fine

[brisk rose]

yeah true

and for aesthetics I can see wanting it

[tepid crow]

and yeah, this is a good idea - though my mod also already partially does this, so I might need to resolve a conflict there 🤔

[frosty dock]

always showing is the default behavior, and i guess it should stay that way

[tepid crow]

agreed

[brisk rose]

my ass reminding people my shitty suits exist even if they aren't using them (as long as they have that part of the mod enabled)

[frosty dock]

not too keen on altering vanilla UI when nothing's changed by mods about it, so I'd rather keep 4 suits on two rows

[brisk rose]

also maybe fix mod badge truncation

[frosty dock]

5/6 suits also look better if balanced, so I might account for that

[tepid crow]

did you look at the steamodded header for it?

[brisk rose]

it's all there

[tepid crow]

DISPLAY_NAME

[brisk rose]

oh lol

[tepid crow]

I doubt it'll fix any truncation, but you can at least set some sort of acronym

if that's not good enough you can ask aura why it truncates (I'm assuming it's a font size issue)

[brisk rose]

nah same thing

[lucid umbra]

if i may ask, what mod are you using for the extra suits? or are they just recolors

[brisk rose]

it's a mod in development by me

[lucid umbra]

ah

[brisk rose]

they will be real extra suits

[lucid umbra]

any mod you'd reccomend with extra suits otherwise?

[brisk rose]

and there'll be 4 of them

[lucid umbra]

i played a long time ago with a old version of the game

with the 60 suit mod

[brisk rose]

There's SixSuits by @frosty dock himself

[brisk rose]

which that is a parody of

[lucid umbra]

i know that

but i need a uptodate version and cant find it

-_-

[brisk rose]

SixSuits is updated

https://github.com/Aurelius7309/SixSuits

download the code, not the release

[lucid umbra]

thank you

[tidal ice]

wait quick question would I be able to actually make card skins for entire suits (without altering jokers and other things), because I wanna be able to do that rather than make new suits

[brisk rose]

like just retextures of exiting suits?

[tidal ice]

yeah

[brisk rose]

yeah you could just do that with a normal texture pack or #1284376286789111940

[tidal ice]

oki doki, pretty cool

[wintry solar]

Oh maybe it was this that we made not truncate?

[tepid crow]

coonie says it still truncates

[brisk rose]

Yeah it showed up the same

[tepid eagle]

add another badge underneath the mod name one that says "ne" /j

[brisk rose]

Lmao

[timid parrot]

I was asking about this earlier, but what are good ways to test stuff that require RNG to find in a normal run? (jokers, blinds, consumables, etc.)

[brisk rose]

#1228149931257237664

You can bring up the collection with the esc menu and hover over things and press 3 to spawn them

[timid parrot]

thanks

[wintry solar]

anyone up for proof reading some docs and doing some preliminary texture testing?

[timid parrot]

yeah maybe, what for?

[tepid crow]

sure, I have a bit of time

[rough furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/cow-wig-gif-17915576443032798845

[wintry solar]

wilson where has the dog gone

[rough furnace]

he's taking a break

don't worry about it

[timid parrot]

is there a way to log something to the console for debugging purposes?

[mossy lake]

I had a question about mod development, i want to make simple integer changes to the game to experiment with a balance change mod . how reasonable/simple would this be ?

[tepid crow]

You could print, but I suggest using https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/Logging. Make sure to change the steamodded config to show trace logs and above if you use the second option.

[timid parrot]

thanks

yep that helped me find my problem

[rough furnace]

Also DebugPlus lets you see console in game which is fairly convient

[timid parrot]

how does the game store the player's current jokers?

oh it's G.jokers.cards not G.jokers isn't it

[rough furnace]

yeah

G.jokers is the area and it stores more stuff than just the jokers itsel

like the max size,

[timid parrot]

makes sense

thanks

and now I have a version of the Joke that punishes you in a way that isn't intentionally unbalanced

[rough furnace]

does this respect eternal compatability?

[timid parrot]

yes

[rough furnace]

nice

[timid parrot]

yeah I just tested it with a mixture of jokers that should and should not be able to become eternal

[wooden nexus]

and art by me to start

(at least the suits)

[plain wyvern]

i am setting balatro scoring calculation on fire (ft: the blind has a deck ooo

[wooden nexus]

What the

[plain wyvern]

big issue of a mod im working on

[wooden nexus]

I did not comprehend that at first lol

[plain wyvern]

so basically

• the blind has its own deck
• what you're supposed to score is your hand's score minus the blind's score (but due to me not understanding the way events are laid out you end up with some bullshit like this)
• the blind picks random cards from its deck atm lmao
• unrelated but i have cryptid installed

and i have grown severely angered at the way score is calculated

[limpid wing]

Infinity text jumpscare

[plain wyvern]

this is normal trust me (it isn't )

[tidal ice]

this is crazy

[hybrid iris]

ooooo id like to taste some textures

wait you said test

whatever im down for tasting and testing

[silent pawn]

are you finally making a mod? :OO

[brisk rose]

Yep :3

#1298894429159166043

[mellow sable]

The Half-Joke

[timid parrot]

well the joke's on me because now I'm trying to make it display the actual score that you need to exceed for the effect to trigger but idk how to access the variable for how many chips you need to beat the blind

[mellow sable]

It’s calculated based on a few variables

I forgot exactly which because it’s been a while since I coded Blinds, but it’s the variable for the base ante score times the multiple of the base the blind has

could also use G.GAME.blind.chips if you’re in the blind

[timid parrot]

is it get_blind_amount(G.GAME.round_resets.ante)?

for the base?

ok I feel like I'm doing something wrong

        loc_vars = function (self)

            self.vars = {""..(get_blind_amount(G.GAME.round_resets.ante) * self.mult * G.GAME.starting_params.ante_scaling * 1.5)}
            return self.vars
        end,

[primal robin]

You should return { vars: { ... } } in this function

[timid parrot]

strange

cuz it's working for my collection_loc_vars

        collection_loc_vars = function (self)
            self.vars = {"{3X Base}"}
            return self.vars
        end,

[timid parrot]

dang that did the trick

thanks

[vague island]

yall know what i'm doing wrong? (Im trying to make this joker give 2x mult per "j_fnj_gerald" when scoring a king

    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.setting_blind and not (context.blueprint_card or self).getting_sliced then
            local geralds = SMODS.find_card("j_fnj_gerald")
                local geraldcount = #geralds
            end
        if context.individual then
            if context.other_card:get_id() == 13 then
                if geraldcount then
                    for i = 1, geraldcount do
                        message = '._.'
                        Xmult_mod = card.ability.extra.Xmult
                    end
                end     
            end
        end
    end,
}

bruh

BRO WHY ARE CODEBLOCKS NOT WORKING

RAHHH

bro

[brisk rose]

Put a space after the first ```.

[vague island]

oh ok

b r u h

wait no im dumb

noper

[tepid crow]

are you like... escaping the backticks?

[brisk rose]

yall know what i'm doing wrong? (Im trying to make this joker give 2x mult per "j_fnj_gerald" when scoring a king

 lua
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.setting_blind and not (context.blueprint_card or self).getting_sliced then
            local geralds = SMODS.find_card("j_fnj_gerald")
                local geraldcount = #geralds
            end
        if context.individual then
            if context.other_card:get_id() == 13 then
                if geraldcount then
                    for i = 1, geraldcount do
                        message = '._.'
                        Xmult_mod = card.ability.extra.Xmult
                    end
                end     
            end
        end
    end,
}

[brisk rose]

No, in trying it too

It's weird

[tepid crow]

yall know what i'm doing wrong? (Im trying to make this joker give 2x mult per "jfnj_gerald" when scoring a king

    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.setting_blind and not (context.blueprint_card or self).getting_sliced then
            local geralds = SMODS.find_card("j_fnj_gerald")
                local geraldcount = #geralds
            end
        if context.individual then
            if context.other_card:get_id() == 13 then
                if geraldcount then
                    for i = 1, geraldcount do
                        message = '..'
                        Xmult_mod = card.ability.extra.Xmult
                    end
                end
            end
        end
    end,
}

[brisk rose]

What did you do different?

[tepid crow]

literally copy-pasted your message

[brisk rose]

Huh, maybe a mobile bug? Idk if Average is on mobile too atm

Test code block

No that works

Stupid discord

[mellow sable]

lol

oh I think I saw the issue

it's using the underscores as text formatting, overriding the code block

silly discord

[tepid crow]

underscore formatting shouldn't cross
multiple lines

oh

it does

🤔

discord preview is a liar

[mellow sable]

Code block should take precedence

But it doesn’t

[tepid crow]

_```lua_
code block should also take precedence yes
```

turns into

```lua
code block should also take precedence yes

OH

[brisk rose]

So the only possible difference I cab at what's the same message would give different formatting is I have emoticon to emoji parsing off.

But then this?

Idk why it just worked to copy my message, lmfao

[tepid crow]

your message already had the italics applied so I couldn't copy them, I think

or it's a mobile thing idk

[brisk rose]

Lmao weird

#1298894429159166043 message
Poll about my mod (apparently you can't forward polls)

[spare elk]

is there a way to make --- MOD_DESCRIPTION have multiple lines

[brisk rose]

It says text is wrapped automatically

I guess stylistic line breaks aren't accounted for

[spare elk]

i mean yeah that makes sense but i mean
doing
something
like
this

oh

shame

i guess with enough spaces it'd roll over?

[brisk rose]

That's a bit messy but it should

Dues just putting "/n" not work?

[tepid crow]

it's usually \n

[spare elk]

oh i don't know coding jargon maybe it does

[brisk rose]

Yes, mobile brainfart

[brisk rose]

.

[spare elk]

the excessive spaces don't work anyway

doesn't work, it just says "bunch of stupid stuff \n Credits: \n Miser [...]"

doesn't actually line break

[tepid crow]

yeah I think I tested it myself too before, it doesn't work

[spare elk]

unfortunance

[spare elk]

oooh

funky

[timid parrot]

that's a neat idea

kinda like the hook, but harder unless you need those cards to make hands in which case it's marginally easier

[timid parrot]

Anyone know of any good tutorials for writing my own injections? I have I feeling I’m gonna need to do that sooner or later

[rough furnace]

with lovely?

[timid parrot]

Yeah

[rough furnace]

Take a look at https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector?tab=readme-ov-file#patches

[timid parrot]

thank you

[crisp coral]

weathergirl mentioned

[rough furnace]

If people could chime in that would be handy #1228149931257237664 message

[rough furnace]

I seem to have gotten the game stuck

oh hmm

my watcher might be implemented wrong

[stiff locust]

how does balatro refer to the remaining number of hands

[rough furnace]

G.GAME.current_round.hands_left

Thoughts?

(the api will not look like this when done)

I'm eepy now but will work on this more later

[timid parrot]

the agony of forgetting a parameter when redefining a function and wondering where the hell nil came from

[brisk rose]

#1298894429159166043 message
Anyone who's interested in my suit mod, and wants to vote on default handling of the new suits, there's a poll here

y'all do know this isn't Bunco and these will all be options, including just turning the suits off, right?\

:P

In any case, I'll respect this poll, however it turns out. It very well may have different defaults when part of my mod pack though, lol. Because that last option's one I'd personally never use

[brisk rose]

it'd be really nice if someone has the basic set of suit jokers already in smods 1.0 format (any sinful and all the stone/gems) because I'm pulling a flounder for my mod and will be reusing those 4 times over, lol

[lucid sun]

sorry i need another set of eyes on this, getting unexpected symbol near '}' on line 265 and cant figure out why 🤷‍♂️

[brisk rose]

need another end, right now you're just ending the if statement, not the function

[lucid sun]

yep, lmao. thank you

[brisk rose]

no worries, very easy to miss stuff like that

[brisk rose]

I wouldn't mind porting the ones from flounders but... it's all coded like this

@wintry solar I'm right in thinking this is an odd stylistic/workflow choice, right? (context is unported 0.98 mod)

[wintry solar]

yeah that's what 0.9.8 code tended to be like

[brisk rose]

really with the seperation like that? Guess I got lucky with DeFused, lol

Fusion was written 'normally'

[wintry solar]

it was so you could iterate over a set of them and only need one call of SMODS.Joker, this one doesn't seem to do that though

[brisk rose]

I know some people still use this style, and it has its benefits, it's just hard to work with for a total amatuuer who didn't write it and prefers a doifferent style

[wintry solar]

cryptid uses this style still

I'm not keen on it

https://github.com/Eremel/Aure-Spectral/tree/main look at this lovely simple texture pack 👀

[brisk rose]

yeah I thought that was a bit weird. tbh with this mod largely being 5 jokers repeated with different suits, I'd expect something even more strange and compressed

[brisk rose]

ayy nice

wait I can read those commit names

Malverk it is? I presume that's also Icelandic

Yeah 'Painting'

Fitting name

@wintry solar are you Icelandic, or just a fan of the language?

[wintry solar]

neither, I was just looking for interesting translations of magic to start with 🤣

turns out icelandic has some interesting sounding words

[brisk rose]

ah lol makes sense

[wintry solar]

I think it's nearly ready to release, just making up a few examples

[brisk rose]

and yeah it's unsprising the closest living relative of the language of the vikings is rather poetic and magical sounding

[brisk rose]

where did that marvel planet texture pack you've been showing off come from? Or is that being released with the mod?

and very awesome

I'll probably finally use texture packs now, lol

[wintry solar]

it's in the modding channel somewhere

I'm waiting for permission to use it as an example 🤞

[brisk rose]

besides the self.ability.name part, which I'm pretty sure isn't needed as the calculate function can just be in the joker definition, what, if anything needs to be changed for this for 1.0?

[narrow pollen]

replace self with card

and define card in between self and context

yes, even put card = card

[brisk rose]

So for "Danger Stick" the version of this joker for my Ringtails suit, it'd be like this?

calculate = function(self, card, context)
    if context.cardarea == G.play and not context.repetition and context.other_card:is_suit("Ringtails") then 
        return {
            chips = card.ability.extra.chips,
            card = card
                     }        
        end
 end

[narrow pollen]

yep!

[brisk rose]

yeah, these won't be too hard to port at all :3

thank you

[narrow pollen]

yeah, i have

absolutely no idea how to use the new self variable

doing it this way works. i don't question it.

[cursive ocean]

When using find_joker or find_card, does the returned joker know if it's affected by blueprint?

[maiden phoenix]

I dont think they account for bp

[cursive ocean]

i might be on a wild goose chase anyway. im modifying the lucky cards odds with a joker. got it working, including multiple copies amplyfing the effect, via a patch, but don't know how i would account for blueprint

a previous attempt was modyfing the game probability itself and then resetting it after calculate was done, but multiple copies made the probability balloon over time

[wintry solar]

I’d imagine stuff like that generally isn’t blueprint compatible

[cursive ocean]

that's fair

[wintry solar]

You could definitely do it by modifying the value in your function though

Just need to increase in context.before and decrease in context.after

[cursive ocean]

yea it worked for one, saving the previous probability and resetting after. but when a second copy was present, the second reset didnt set it back to the original probablity; it was reset to what the previous card modified the probability to be

calculate = function(self, card, context)
    if context.before and context.cardarea == G.jokers and not context.blueprint then
      print("Hello fixed odds")
      local allAreLucky = true
  
      for _, scoringCard in ipairs(context.scoring_hand) do
         print(scoringCard.debuffed)
         if scoringCard.ability.name ~= 'Lucky Card' then
            allAreLucky = false
         end
      end
  
      if allAreLucky then
        self.ability.extra.triggered = true
        card_eval_status_text(card, "extra", nil, nil, nil, {
          message = "More likely!"
        })
  
        for k, v in pairs(G.GAME.probabilities) do -- this is what oops all sixes does
          G.GAME.probabilities[k] = v * self.ability.extra.increaseOddsTimes
          print(k .. " is now " .. G.GAME.probabilities[k])
        end

        allAreLucky = false 
      end -- end all are lucky
    elseif context.after and self.ability.extra.triggered then -- clean up after trigger to not inflate all probabilities forever
      for k, v in pairs(G.GAME.probabilities) do -- reset probabilities
      -- something is fucked if theres another instance of this jimbo
      print("RESET PROBS")
       G.GAME.probabilities[k] = v / self.ability.extra.increaseOddsTimes
       print(k, " after is ", G.GAME.probabilities[k])
      end
      self.ability.extra.triggered = false -- reset state
    end -- end if context 
  end -- end calculate 

was the original code

now it's this mess

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = 'card.lua'
match_indent = true
pattern = """
if self.ability.p_dollars > 0 then
    if self.ability.effect == "Lucky Card" then 
        if pseudorandom('lucky_money') < G.GAME.probabilities.normal/15 then
            self.lucky_trigger = true
            ret = ret +  self.ability.p_dollars
        end
    else 
        ret = ret + self.ability.p_dollars
    end
end
"""
position = 'at'
payload = """
if self.ability.p_dollars > 0 then
    if self.ability.effect == "Lucky Card" then
        local prob = 15
        if next(find_joker('j_dogmod_fixed_odds')) then
            prob = prob / (#find_joker('j_dogmod_fixed_odds') * 2)
        end 
        print("probabilities", prob)
        if pseudorandom('lucky_money') < G.GAME.probabilities.normal/prob then
            self.lucky_trigger = true
            ret = ret +  self.ability.p_dollars
        end
    else 
        ret = ret + self.ability.p_dollars
    end
end
"""

[stiff locust]

i have encountered a very annoying problem

this code returns nil at ipairs(G.play.cards) which doesn't make any sense to me because i have other jokers under the same contexts that do not return nil at this point

I don't understand why this one specifically returns nil

[cursive ocean]

It's an underscore in the pic, not a . ?

[stiff locust]

oh my fucking god

you're right it's an underscore

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-hitori-gotoh-bocchi-anime-dazed-gif-27118681

[cursive ocean]

easy to get blinded staring at something like that

[stiff locust]

yeah

[wintry solar]

How are you changing it?

[brisk rose]

that totally isn't just 2 open source emojis and some random bullshit

[wintry solar]

How are you changing it?

Internet is very spotty here, but I’m assuming you are either adding or multiplying the existing value, so in the after just do the inverse operation instead

[narrow pollen]

you know something, @cursive ocean?

i did that exact thing in my personal mod

with one-armed bandit

feel free to take a look in my code for that! ^^

[cursive ocean]

could you link it? @narrow pollen

[narrow pollen]

#1226055105204453428

[cursive ocean]

Interesting

[cursive ocean]

Yeah it's what I am/was doing. If all are lucky multiply the normal probability by 2, then in context after divide by 2. Which works for one instance of the joker. However, it seems that if there are multiple instances of the joker, the resetting logic doesn't work properly

But if I don't care about blueprint, the patch approach should work the same, and won't conflict with any existing functionality. All done in place without modifying any global variables, which seems a bit cleaner

[wintry solar]

can you send the calculate function you had? that should 100% work

[cursive ocean]

it's this one #💻・modding-dev message @wintry solar

[wintry solar]

you could maybge throw it in an event

[cursive ocean]

Theee resetting? With an "after" trigger?

[wintry solar]

ye

[cursive ocean]

ima try it out

No dice, with this code

calculate = function(self, card, context)
    if context.before and context.cardarea == G.jokers and not context.blueprint then
      local allAreLucky = true
  
      for _, scoringCard in ipairs(context.scoring_hand) do
         print(scoringCard.debuffed)
         if scoringCard.ability.name ~= 'Lucky Card' then
            allAreLucky = false
         end
      end
  
      if allAreLucky then
        print("All scoring cards are lucky")
        self.ability.extra.triggered = true
        card_eval_status_text(card, "extra", nil, nil, nil, {
          message = "More likely!"
        })
  
        for k, v in pairs(G.GAME.probabilities) do -- this is what oops all sixes does
          G.GAME.probabilities[k] = v * self.ability.extra.increaseOddsTimes
          print(k .. " is now " .. G.GAME.probabilities[k])
        end

        allAreLucky = false
      end -- end all are lucky
    elseif context.after and self.ability.extra.triggered then -- clean up after trigger to not inflate all probabilities forever
      print("reset probabilities")
      G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
        trigger = 'after',
        delay = 0.3,
        func = function ()
          for k, v in pairs(G.GAME.probabilities) do -- reset probabilities
             G.GAME.probabilities[k] = v / self.ability.extra.increaseOddsTimes
             print(k .. " after is " .. G.GAME.probabilities[k])
            end
            return true
        end
      }))
      
      self.ability.extra.triggered = false -- reset state
    end -- end if context 
  end -- end calculate 

The result for one instance is

INFO - [G] All scoring cards are lucky
INFO - [G] normal is now 2
INFO - [G] reset probabilities
INFO - [G] normal after is 1

but for two instances

INFO - [G] All scoring cards are lucky
INFO - [G] normal is now 2
INFO - [G] All scoring cards are lucky
INFO - [G] normal is now 4
INFO - [G] reset probabilities
INFO - [G] normal after is 2

So it seems like the after is only visited once hmm

Something with the triggered flag?

[wintry solar]

oh

self should be card

self refers to the center object, which is shared across all cards, card refers to the actual card object

[cursive ocean]

ooo

yaaay

[wintry solar]

you don't need the event anymore either

[cursive ocean]

Even better

[wintry solar]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1300851004186820690

here we go!

[rough furnace]

If I wanted to modify the loc_txt of a joker (or well probably any center) on the fly, how would I go about doing that? I tried doing this

G.P_CENTERS.j_jam_buckleswasher.loc_txt.name = "late for dinner"
G.P_CENTERS.j_jam_buckleswasher.loc_txt.name_parsed = nil
G.P_CENTERS.j_jam_buckleswasher:process_loc_text()
``` but it crashes when hovering over the card

this process doesn't seem to remake the name_parsed

I also am not sure where this is created

tried grepping balatro and SMODS for _parsed but no luck

[tepid crow]

did you consider returning a different key in loc_vars? or is the change too dynamic?

here's what I used to do at some point, but it's very clunky

local function reinit_localization(sleeve_center)
    -- only reparses the description text
    local set, key = sleeve_center.set, sleeve_center.key
    G.localization.descriptions[set][key] = sleeve_center.loc_txt
    local center = G.localization.descriptions[set][key]
    center.text_parsed = {}
    for _, line in ipairs(center.text or {}) do
        center.text_parsed[#center.text_parsed+1] = loc_parse_string(line)
    end
end

[frosty dock]

I'd reassign to the appropriate field in G.localization (accessing loc_txt.name or whatever isn't consistent with localized loc tables and loc files) and then run init_localization() to reparse

using key on loc_vars is probably better if it's not too dynamic, but it should be more consistent to just have it reparse everything unless that's too slow

[rough furnace]

Thanks I'll take a look. It can be a little slow, but preferably not slower than a second. I want to be able to make live updates to a joker so it's not super dynamic but it'll likely be run a handful of times per session

[opal spade]

do you need to rerun init localization?

you can just manually parse the the entries you're editing

[frosty dock]

yeah but it doesn't generate boilerplate/duplicate code

[lime trench]

Hey did the new update change anything to how scoring calculations are done?

Bc I swear my code was working fine, but now it doesn't add the chip and the mult to the score

[brisk rose]

Is there a way to make wild cards only count as suits that are in_pool?

I mean it's obviously possible. Anything is. I just mean preferably without a lovely patch or me wanting to bang my head against a wall

[rough furnace]

You probably need a lovely patch

[brisk rose]

I presume one way would be to take_ownership of wild cards and rewrite their calculate function? Or are they hard coded enough where that'd be a pain?

[edgy reef]

in_pool was only added to places that generate things so the likely answer is no.

Wild card enhancement already operates manually for anything that isn’t handled with is_suit so take_ownership wouldn’t do much for this.

Either that or it was moved to any_suit which iirc doesn’t care for suit in_pool.

[brisk rose]

The more I think of it, the less it seems nessacary. With bunco or something installed all wild card flushes would be spectrums either way

And i plan to exclude jokers that effect vanilla suits when only mine are loaded and vice-versa

Wait... false

Dammit

Forgot you needed 5 suits for a spectrum

Though I also wasn't really planning to try to exclude the bunco suits?

So it shooould still behave pretty much as expected?

#1298894429159166043 message

Nearing the last chance to vote on default handling for the new suits in
#1298894429159166043
Note that all of these options will still be in the mod, this is just for default handling. Also note that at first all content will be related to the new suits

[timid parrot]

how do I store unique global state for a blind in a way that'll be saved? (i.e. I need the boss blind to do something exactly once and only when a condition is met)

[rough furnace]

like per run global or per boss instance global?

[timid parrot]

per boss instance

the boss ability for context

[rough furnace]

I belive you can just store objects on the blind object

[timid parrot]

so just self.spent = true or something like that?

[rough furnace]

try it and see

[timid parrot]

yep that worked. thank you

now to make sure this blind works with every single poker hand

[tepid eagle]

me when my drawn high card gets discarded 😨

[rough furnace]

me when my drawn high card gets discarded (I have burnt joker)

[timid parrot]

time for the 4oak test

it uh

didn't do anything

[brisk rose]

I presume you drew into a 4oak?

[timid parrot]

yeah

some further testing will be needed to figure out what went wrong

okay I found out what went wrong by the lack of debug statements

idk why self.spent is already true but it is

[brisk rose]

How did you initialize it?

[timid parrot]

I didn't

anyway just gonna write a set_blind method that sets it to nil rq

[brisk rose]

Yeah that's how I'd do it

[timid parrot]

well it... worked

but for some reason it discarded a 5oak instead of a 4oak

that's gonna be a pain to bugfix

[lusty oracle]

How can I start creating a mod for Balatro?

[brisk rose]

#1298894429159166043 message
Any last minute votes for the poll about my mod?

[languid mirage]

if you dont know any lua start there

then if you're looking for a general jokers/consumables mod, you would need Steamodded

the project also has example mods for using the API
https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/tree/main/example_mods/Mods

and wiki
https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki

also you can use 7zip to open Balatro.exe as an archive to view source code, which is helpful for more niche cases

[vagrant moth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1265883701276053596/1301046003071320095/image.png?ex=67230d03&is=6721bb83&hm=1bd3bb9a764c7f62f5bca5b905bd363b26b4b4fad29a000d95300fddeb60486e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=801&height=676

I want to auto-Foil this card, using this code, some of it nabbed from Cryptid, but the auto-foiling doesn't work.

I also got this error while looking at the Collection with the cards inside

503 corresponds to a copy of "return { vars = { card.ability.extra.counter } }" for another edition.

Apparently I copied literally none of Meteor's auto-foiling code

[vagrant moth]

I narrowed it down to this code in Cryptid.

-- Literally just for the Overlay cards
function create_card(_type, area, legendary, _rarity, skip_materialize, soulable, forced_key, key_append)
    local card = Card(
        area and (area.T.x + area.T.w / 2) or 0,
        area and area.T.y or 0,
        G.CARD_W * (center and center.set == "Booster" and 1.27 or 1),
        G.CARD_H * (center and center.set == "Booster" and 1.27 or 1),
        front,
        center,
        {
            bypass_discovery_center = area == G.shop_jokers
                or area == G.pack_cards
                or area == G.shop_vouchers
                or (G.shop_demo and area == G.shop_demo)
                or area == G.jokers
                or area == G.consumeables,
            bypass_discovery_ui = area == G.shop_jokers
                or area == G.pack_cards
                or area == G.shop_vouchers
                or (G.shop_demo and area == G.shop_demo),
            discover = area == G.jokers or area == G.consumeables,
            bypass_back = G.GAME.selected_back.pos,
        }
    )
    if card.ability.name == "MASS_foilOverlay" then
        card:set_edition("e_foil", true)
    end
    if card.ability.name == "MASS_holographicOverlay" then
        card:set_edition("e_holo", true)
    end
    if card.ability.name == "MASS_polychromeOverlay" then
        card:set_edition("e_polychrome", true)
    end
    if card.ability.name == "MASS_negativeOverlay" then
        card:set_edition("e_negative", true)
    end
    return card
end```

But it still doesn't work

What do?

[stiff locust]

how does balatro refer to the number of remaining hands

[brisk rose]

.

[brisk rose]

Wilson answered immediately when you asked yesterdat

[stiff locust]

what

oh I missed that

[brisk rose]

yeah thought you must've lol. It's easy to do when you aren't @'d

[sick ferry]

how to spawn specific joker with the create_card

[brisk rose]

Use SMODS.create_card and provide the key

[lusty epoch]

last argument (forced_key), use the key of the specific joker

[sick ferry]

how to find key?

oh wait

nvm i got it

[sick ferry]

wait where do i put the key?

local card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers.rock, rock, 0, rock, rock, rock, 'rock')

[brisk rose]

That's the vanilla create_card function. The smods one is way easier tbh

[sick ferry]

wait how do i use that

[brisk rose]

Seems to be one of the many undocumented steamodded functions (unless I just missed it on the wiki)

Here's how it's defined in the code itself, if you can make any sense of it

Someone told me how it worked once, lemme see if I can find it

[sick ferry]

ok thanks

[brisk rose]

Apparently it's this simple

Also this is the format for keys, not what you were doing

I haven't heard of 'rock' so I presume it's from a mod, so would have a prefix. That's what "mc" is in the example

[sick ferry]

ahh ok

[edgy reef]

SMODS.create_card is functionally the same as create_card but since it’s a table instead of a regular function call you don’t need to specify everything.

[frosty dock]

thinking about steamodded's indexing functionality again... if we're going with an external launcher/updater that's surely post beta

so maybe we just merge what's there now of the index branch (for metadata files and a UI change that doesn't really belong there) and figure out the rest later?

[edgy reef]

If we think it’s best yea

[frosty dock]

also the PR has been open for 2 months, I don't really need it to diverge any further from main

[edgy reef]

Getting back into pretty bad PR backlog again.

At least the simpler bug fix changes got merged

[frosty dock]

we're feature freezing

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/issues/287

[brisk rose]

lmfao, horrible timing for me to reiterate my feature request

but yay, finally beta

[tepid crow]

We're about to get a release for the first time in months babbyyyyy

(oops sorry for the tag)

[frosty dock]

nws

[crisp coral]

🎉 beta

[plain wyvern]

heck yeah

[edgy reef]

Rarity API is no longer in prison

https://tenor.com/view/isaac-gif-22556901

Wait this birthed a 3 AM mod idea: this Issac mod but in Balatro whenever there’s a soul card.

[maiden phoenix]

Its no longer in draft?

[edgy reef]

Left draft last month

[crisp coral]

what would be dancing

[maiden phoenix]

Oh

[brisk rose]

Jimbothy

[edgy reef]

Idk maybe make the soul card’s gem grow arms

[frosty dock]

this a typo? shouldn't legendary be 4

[edgy reef]

Whoops

I should probably just make that a global since it’s used in a few places whenever string vanilla rarities need accounted for

[frosty dock]

eh, it's whatever

can't spot any other issues so I'll just merge, surely nothing will go wrong

[crisp coral]

surely

[frosty dock]

that leaves (besides stales) the deck skin PR being still in review and the tag list draft

[wintry solar]

Aure on a mad one spamming me with emails

[frosty dock]

lmao sorry

[vagrant moth]

Update: Selling function works, but the "apply edition to this card everywhere" thing does not. Will tinker further.

[tepid crow]

Make sure cryptid itself (or any other invasive mod like it) is not running btw, their override might break your hook 🤔

[vagrant moth]

it's not, don't worry

Code so far.
Purpose: These cards are supposed to have their respective editions EVERYWHERE, or at least, when you get them. Does not seem to work.

[brisk rose]

you should be matching by key afaik

though idk why it isn't still working

[tepid crow]

^

and you should try printing the current name 🙃

[frosty dock]

that's because create_card is the wrong function for that, you can just use set_ability

[vagrant moth]

...but how do I hook into set_ability?

[brisk rose]

I don't think you need to hook into it. just put it in the joker's calculate function or smth

[vagrant moth]

👍

[brisk rose]

could easily be mistaken though

[frosty dock]

it's a separate function

but yeah, you just put the function on the joker object

[vagrant moth]

Probably not like this, then/

What new function am I supposed to add?

[brisk rose]

maybe just the set_edition function itself?

[vagrant moth]

👍

[frosty dock]

no, like I said set_ability

[wintry solar]

what are you trying to do?

[frosty dock]

set_ability = function(self,card) card:set_edition('e_foil',true) end,

[vagrant moth]

IT WORKS

[brisk rose]

yes, just a brainfart typo, lol

[vagrant moth]

code for one of the cards

[wintry solar]

please stop with this horrible edition syntax

[brisk rose]

should probably say how to do it right instead of just saying that tbh

[wintry solar]

card:set_edition('e_polychrome', true)

[frosty dock]

i mean i did right above

[frosty dock]

.

[brisk rose]

ah very fair

[limpid wing]

I ask here because the smart people is here... Balatro mobile have a memory leak (buffer overflow???) Because is the only game i have what in a random moment GETS EXTREMLY laggy, and the game works bad, the motion, the movement, the animations work bads

And only happens with balatro

Other games work fine

[primal robin]

Even PC version have memory leak, most likely in shop

[regal shoal]

Hello everybody !
I don't understand, I have my lovely.toml at the root of my Mod folder : "../Mods/MyMod/lovely.toml" and it doesn't seems to be read when booting :/

[wintry solar]

does it have the header?

[regal shoal]

It does

[manifest]
version = "1.0.0"
dump_lua = true
priority = 0

And if you're talking about the mod:

--- STEAMODDED HEADER
--- MOD_NAME: MJST.LIB
--- MOD_ID: mjst_lib
--- MOD_AUTHOR: [MJST]
--- MOD_DESCRIPTION: MJST LIB
--- BADGE_COLOUR: F0AC14
--- PREFIX: mjst_lib
--- VERSION: 1.1.3
--- DISPLAY_NAME: MJST's LIB
--- PRIORITY: -100

Am I missing something ?

[stiff locust]

could be because

1. mod folder is nested
2. the target to search for wasn't found so it didn't patch
3. idk logic error causing it to kill itself and not run bc you put it in the wrong place?

[royal seal]

Made a tool for generating code for Steamodded Api Jokers
https://github.com/InertSteak/JokerCodeGenerator
@brisk rose

[wintry solar]

why does it have name rather than key?

[frosty dock]

also why that font and not something for suitable for code?

[wintry solar]

also I find it an interesting choice generating a table assigned to a value rather than just a SMODS.Joker{table}

[mellow sable]

Change it to Comic Mono

[brisk rose]

wym by the font thing?

I just see a normal sans serif font in the screenshot

[mellow sable]

It’s not monospaced

[mellow sable]

Probably based on codebase of Pokermon

[brisk rose]

oh fair enough i guess, I thought it might just be that

[wintry solar]

makes sense, just a strange stylistic choice imo

[brisk rose]

yeah it'd be nice if there was an option for a bare smods.joker object

[mellow sable]

Looks like it used a config loading system like Cryptid, so local variable checks out

[brisk rose]

yeah, just not my style. trivial to change though ofc

for me I mean

however, what's less trivial for me is bulding it? there's just source and project files in the repo that I see

ofc I don't expect a deb or appimage, but an exe should still work in wine

[royal seal]

Good point, I'll add that when I get the chance

and yeah, I kind of just finished it and put it on Github, I'll see about making it easy to install

[brisk rose]

oh c# is jit compiled. So I just need mono?

[frosty dock]

alright that's all non-stale/non-draft PRs taken care of

[hardy viper]

"blue_compat"

[frosty dock]

oh right, that leaves docs

[wintry solar]

do we address the little inconsistencies that crop up as we write docs?

like some objects using rate and some using weight?

[frosty dock]

those are definitely to be fixed

[brisk rose]

which .cs is the parent program though?

[frosty dock]

but we do have to be careful about what's actually the same concept. SMODS.Sticker's rate is a fixed chance on each shop item, which isn't how weights operate