💻・modding-dev

[brisk rose]

I need /all/ the cards

lol

[opal spade]

I'm not sure what's the process for grabbing images is (or how to work with it), but the center should have enough info to pull the images u need

cus atlas (or lack thereof) + pos/soul_pos

[languid mirage]

yeah it should

but handling other things like scale is easier with an actual card

but Ig there isn't that many jokers like wee?

so maybe it's fine

[opal spade]

ye

I think manual approach for abnormal jokers should be ok

[brisk rose]

I... have almost 1000 jokers in game

I should be able to create the card from what's in G.P_CENTERS

and then go from there

[stray orbit]

the one minecraft modpack but for balatro

divine journey i think

[frosty dock]

first time a steamodded mod has been loaded without a mod header

(yes prefix and main_file are required, don't fight me)

[brisk rose]

@frosty dock sorry to bother you, but is there a simple way to create a card object from G.P_CENTERS?

[opal spade]

you can define it directly using Card()

[brisk rose]

I need to do it iteratively though, what parameters do I need?

for a joker specifically

[frosty dock]

I'd use SMODS.create_card

[opal spade]

Card(X, Y, W, H, card, center, params)

[frosty dock]

fair but that creates redundancy in the params when you can just do SMODS.create_card{key=center.key}

it ends up calling the Card constructor anyways of course, but it's easier

[opal spade]

x and y shouldn't be relevant for you
W = G.CARD_W
H = G.CARD_H
card is irrelevant
center is the things you're iterating over
params are irrelevant

[crisp coral]

you should start documenting misc functions

[frosty dock]

there's lots of things i should start doing actually

[opal spade]

🤷

[brisk rose]

huh, I thought this crash was because I was using vanillia create_card wrong

my code so far

the indendation is pretty screwed up, my b

[frosty dock]

hm

does JimbosPack fully override create_card?

because the stack trace looks like it does

oh ok i see the issue there

[opal spade]

it hooks it as "oldfunc"

https://github.com/art-muncher/Jimbo-s-Pack/tree/main

[frosty dock]

https://github.com/art-muncher/Jimbo-s-Pack/blob/main/jimbo.lua#L2676

basically randomness doesn't work outside of a run because there's no seed, which shouldn't be an issue normally because there's no randomness with forced keys

yet here the random var is generated regardless, even though it's only used in a case where there is no forced key

[opal spade]

@nocturne garnet thing to fix

[brisk rose]

I get the same crash even if I remove Jimbo's pack

same with if I remove betmma's

[frosty dock]

what's in your common_events.lua at line 2619? mine isn't even reachable if there's a forced_key

[brisk rose]

but then I start getting errors from smods itself

[frosty dock]

oh wait nvm i see, it's this

should be avoidable by waiting until the game object is initialized though

[brisk rose]

how'd I do that? And does that mean that it needs a run to start to do its thing?

[frosty dock]

no, a game object is initialized as soon as the main menu is entered

you'd just need to change what function your hooking onto

[tepid crow]

also wtf is happening with your indentation coonie

[brisk rose]

here it is fixed

I was lazy wth copy-pasting, lol

[frosty dock]

after main_menu should do probably, otherwise just use the card constructor idk

[tepid crow]

it's a lot better, but not fixed lol

[frosty dock]

probably better anyways if it's prone to breaking with other mods

[brisk rose]

well I use a text editor not an ide, so I have to do it manually

[frosty dock]

formatters exist outside of ides

[brisk rose]

yes, but not in xed I guess

at least not a functional one

I have "auto indent" on, it does nothing

[tepid crow]

might not support Lua

[brisk rose]

I presume that replaces part of the first line, but I'll admit I'm enough of a noob to still not know exactly where to put it and how to format it

[frosty dock]

yeah I'd just opt for the card constructor at this point

[opal spade]

card constructor

[brisk rose]

still getting the same error

this is roughly correct, right?

[opal spade]

I'd put x y as 0s and card params as nil but I'll check the error rn

[opal spade]

what's line 262 in card.lua in ur lovely dump

[opal spade]

damn

even card constructor doesn't work

what's your code rn

[brisk rose]

one sec

here it is

[opal spade]

instead of hooking into post inject you should probably hook into something else and loop over G.P_CENTERS

[brisk rose]

yeah, aure suggested after main_menu

idk exactly how to format that though

[brisk rose]

also realized I forgot to fix the param for the sprite function, not like it works anyway yet without the card object

[opal spade]

SMODS.Joker.post_inject_class = function(self)
VV

function Game:main_menu(change_context)
   main_menuRef(self, change_context)```

also your current card constructor is passing a number as a card argument when it rlly should be nil instead

[brisk rose]

fixed that

no longer crashes, now I just gotta debug the image function

still outputting blank images

[brisk rose]

here's my code currently

and also, the cards are all spawned on the top left of the screen when the game starts, I'm sure that's easy to fix

[opal spade]

thats because where x = 0, y = 0 is

you can just add tempcard:remove() at the bottom of the loop to dispose of the cards once ur done with them

[brisk rose]

yeah I thought it'd be something easy like that

[mental nacelle]

found a solution for now, if silent = true then the original version of set_edition() runs regardless of rules

this would allow for duplicates to have editions but the original cards wouldn't have editions anyway

[brisk rose]

got jumpscared by it actually working

[crisp coral]

congo rats

[limpid flint]

woah

[orchid thunder]

just found out my enhancement int broken the game is

nvm another mod breaks it

[orchid thunder]

that mod is familiar

[loud citrus]

how do you add reminder text? like when stone joker reminds you of stone cards

[lusty epoch]

use infoqueue in loc_vars

one example (ignore the vars those are unrelated)

[loud citrus]

like this?

[lusty epoch]

looks good

[loud citrus]

now putting that in the description

i have no idea

[opal spade]

you can also define it as {set = <set>, key = <key>, specific_vars = {<vars>}} to pull entries that arent centers/to put specific variables in the descriptions

[loud citrus]

is there an example i can look at 😅

i'm having a hard time visualizing this

wait i'ma try something

[opal spade]

instead of g.p_centers you make a table of data for info queue to use

[loud citrus]

i have this now

[opal spade]

you didnt have to change it lol

just telling u about options

vanilla uses just g.p_centers for pack info queues

[loud citrus]

oh, okay... when i add it to my description how would i do it? because this probably isn't it

[opal spade]

just C:spectral

T: is for deck descriptions

[opal spade]

T: is basically the deck equivalent to info_queue

[loud citrus]

oh, that makes a lot more sense

[opal spade]

words with T: bring up an item description when you mouse over them

[loud citrus]

that's very good to know, i can hide easter eggs

[tepid crow]

wait, T is specific to decks?

[opal spade]

how would you mouse over a word in a joker description

[loud citrus]

oh i didn't think about that

[tepid crow]

oh I see

I was about to say I also use it for my sleeves 🙃

[loud citrus]

i'm starting to realize my head is fogged, i'm just doing that comes to thought

[opal spade]

its not that its specific to decks, its just decks are like the one thing in the game that use it

[tepid crow]

yeah exactly

cuz decks are the only things that have a description you can hover over in the base game

[opal spade]

the stakes underneath:

[tepid crow]

truueee

[loud citrus]

i don't understand, so am i telling the game what to show based on the variable i use?

[tepid crow]

thunk put anything that could be tooltipped in the full description though

[tepid crow]

those specific_vars might be the vars for the tooltip but don't quote me on that

[loud citrus]

?

[tepid crow]

what? no

like what vars do in localization

they replace the #1# stuff

(again I'm just guessing that that's what specific_vars does, maybe I'm wrong)

[loud citrus]

i'm so sorry, i'm lost 🐟

i've been looking for a mod to take example from

[tepid crow]

it's alright I'm completely lost too

localization is quite complicated lol

[loud citrus]

😭

[loud citrus]

i honetly don't know what i'm doing anymore

[frosty dock]

nah you just misspelt loc_vars

[loud citrus]

WHAT IT WORKS NOW
thank you and to everyone who told me how to do it lol

YES!!!

YES

[topaz sun]

Guys, is there something like get_id() but for suits?

basically, a function that would return a string with the suit's name

[mental nacelle]

i mean there's Card:is_suit(suit) which returns a boolean (true if Card belongs to the suit suit)

[topaz sun]

I think that wouldn't work :/

I'm trying to store played cards' suits and ranks into a table stored in a joker

[mental nacelle]

you could have it store a different value depending on which suit it is, im not too sure

[tepid crow]

card.base.suit iirc?

[topaz sun]

will try

[loud citrus]

darn it beck to not knowing how to show pinned :(

[wintry solar]

I’m not sure the key for pinned is just pinned

[loud citrus]

i've also seen pinned_left

but neither work

[edgy reef]

There are no sticker configs (in vanilla code anyways).

You'd have to do info_queue[#info_queue+1] = {key = "pinned_left", set = "Other"}

Or info_queue[#info_queue+1] = {key = "pinned", set = "Other"}

[loud citrus]

holy cow i'm learning so much about loc_vars

thank you

also i think hex has a lot better theming now :)

[loud citrus]

im having this strange bug where it can be used at times it shouldn't, even though i have max_highlight

[hardy viper]

add a can_use function to the card and make it return true only if 0 < G.hand.highlighted < 5

(0 < G.hand.highlighted < 5 wouldnt be valid)

[lucid sun]

is there a way for context.open_boosters to only impact boosters opened in the shop? dont want boosters from skips to impact

[loud citrus]

thank you so much!!!
this is what i ended up doing with your information

[loud citrus]

you could exclude skip context, like if not

or don't trigger if you're outside the shop

[topaz sun]

Is there a way to print variables to check their values in a given moment in game?

[loud citrus]

if you're looking to check it's as easy at if X = Y then but if you need to print it depends on the context you're talking about

[topaz sun]

I'm storing variables in these two tables, rank{} and suit{}. I suspect they're not storing the values properly, so I'm trying to find a way to see what's being stored

[glad wasp]

I'm making a joker that's supposed to give +10 chips and +6 mult to clubs cards, and it does do that, but the joker doesnt wobble when it activates, and it also doesnt work with wild cards or smeared joker. if someone could help me fix that, that'd be great!

heres my code (ignore the comments, theyre leftovers from the template i used)

(also im gonna have to do something verey soon so i might not be able to respond to replies right away)

[opal spade]

context.other_card:is_suit("Clubs")

[opal spade]

for wobbles you should check scholar, considering he does a similar effect

[glad wasp]

how do i look at the decompiled game code? ive been told to do it by multiple other places but i still dont know how to do it

[opal spade]

open balatro.exe using an archive viewer like winrar or 7zip

[glad wasp]

dang, its that easy?

[opal spade]

it's that easy

[opal spade]

also there are copies of some files at Mods/lovely/dump

[hardy viper]

(generally they're the important ones)

[opal spade]

lovely dump = the version of the files the game was using the last time it was launched

modified by lovely

[hardy viper]

for wobbling, just call card:juice_up

[opal spade]

I'd disagree, because imo the most important ones are engine/ which aren't touched by any mod yet to my knowledge

[hardy viper]

true

[tepid crow]

steamodded itself touches most of them https://github.com/search?q=repo%3ASteamopollys%2FSteamodded+language%3Atoml+%2Ftarget\s*%3D\s*['"]%2Bengine%2F&type=code

[opal spade]

hm

[tepid crow]

if you remove the repo:Steamopollys/Steamodded part from the query, you can see some other mods that also do it

[lament zealot]

Finally, Ghost Deck is truly based.

Are ya gonna do something for Ankh as well, or no?

[umbral zodiac]

47 copries of one joker

[lament zealot]

I would probably do something like.
Make a Perishable copy of one random Joker.

[Also no longer removes Negative from the copy.]

[lucid sun]

do you/anyone know of any modded jokers that don't trigger outside of shop? so i can read the code and understand how it works

[orchid thunder]

What you trying to do

[loud citrus]

naw i think it plays into the idea of making a a good joker stronger by having two... though if i think of a change i'll most certainly do something because this isn't off my radar.

[loud citrus]

👀 i like this!

[lucid sun]

I have it set so when a card/voucher/booster is bought the xmult increases, however, when i skip and receive a booster pack the xmult also increasem which i dont want happening

[loud citrus]

personal opinion here, i think that's a cool interaction

[lucid sun]

i dont mind it to be honest cos its definitely worse than actually going to a shop but now am also curious how to make it only trigger in shop

[orchid thunder]

Maybe you could check if the pack was bought? I wouldn't know how to do that tho

[loud citrus]

how do i make tabs for my config like cartomancer mod does?

[loud citrus]

also i want my mod to have a built in wiki in the config menu, so when you hover over an option it tells you what it does.

gosh configs are so hard 😭

[maiden phoenix]

When you click on a mod in the ingame modlist it already shows what it adds

[split jungle]

can anyone help me add new joker ?

[narrow pollen]

very nice! i was thinking of doing similar to ectoplasm, where the random joker becomes negative but also eternal.

[frigid flame]

that'd
not give ectoplasm a downside tho

[loud citrus]

i think that's easily abusable but works for higher power mods

most people are fine with the decreased hand size

[frigid flame]

like imagine you have stencil joker
you just sell everything else once you get ectoplasm

from that point onward ankhs and invisible jokers are your #1 priority

[split jungle]

oi lad is our current version steam loader 1.0.0-ALPHA-0721a

[narrow pollen]

don't those remove negative from the copy tho?

i mean sure, making a joker eternal is more situational of a downside than losing hand size

[frigid flame]

ok but if you make a joker eternal instead of -1 hand size

nothing's stopping you from just

getting another ectoplasm

to me at least, -1 hand size in exchange for turning a joker negative feels like a fair trade

[narrow pollen]

...i suppose i just have a problem with the penalty ramping up the more ectoplasms you get

just makes it feel like localthunk is going

"NO. You are having TOO MUCH FUN."

[loud citrus]

what if i removed this in my mod

though i can see why it's here

[hallow forge]

It’s called balance?

[brisk rose]

Just replace ectoplasm with insense from Mika's

it dow=es the same thing and costs $50 to use (even if you don't have the cash) and goes up every use

losing hand size can be inreconsiliable, this is a balance that doesn;t feel bad

[split jungle]

what mods should I follow to make joker mod

I am so bloody confused

[narrow pollen]

i think that's why i don't like the fact that it's a quadratic punishment; you'd get to 0 hand size and lose, whether it ramps up or not.

[loud citrus]

you can look at the joker example from steamoded bare bone examples

[split jungle]

i loook at them but some wont even load

other are too much too see

literally a lot

I check D6 joker and have no idea where to go

[narrow pollen]

it just feels like you're putting unnecessary limiters on a card that is placed alongside other insanely valuable consumeables that don't punish you for seeing too many of them in the same run

[brisk rose]

bad example

it's not normal jokers

[split jungle]

FAIR

[narrow pollen]

it would be like immolate burning one additional card every time you saw it

[brisk rose]

this is why I far prefer incense

it still has theramping punishment but it's a mich fairer one

[narrow pollen]

or every aura past the first being half as likely to apply an edition to the card

it's not the idea of it having a cost that i hate

it's just the cost of hand size is so irreconcilable, on top of it being one of the only spectral cards to have a stacking cost mechanic

[split jungle]

@brisk rose which mod should I look at mate

[brisk rose]

I'd pick something like morefluff

lots of jokers with standard definitions

[split jungle]

thanks mate

checking it out now

what does config lua do btw

[narrow pollen]

so i would be fine with a halfway of negative, eternal, and maybe -1 hand size... or, like... cuts your money in half. because after all, it's not always a guarantee that the card that ectoplasm will hit is one you want to keep long-term.

or even one that will stick around long-term

because imagine ectoplasm hitting a food joker

[brisk rose]

one reason why I don't keep food jokers around usually

[narrow pollen]

or mr. bones

[brisk rose]

that'd still be useful if you plan to keep him

an extra joker slot is an extra joker slot

[narrow pollen]

yeah, wouldn't be as bad as with a food joker ig

but you get the point

[brisk rose]

yeah, definititely

[narrow pollen]

being locked into a particular joker isn't always a good thing

it's one of the more manageable stickers, definitely

but it is still something of a downside

[loud citrus]

why does card = self crash my game?

[narrow pollen]

it seems like the "self" used in the calculate function is not a proper card

[loud citrus]

:(

that's the message

[narrow pollen]

so you have to search through G.jokers.cards

for a value with an ability.name equal to self.name

then set the card key to that value

[loud citrus]

so make ability and self the same as card?

[narrow pollen]

no, like... here, lemme grab my own code for you

local joker = nil
for k, v in pairs(G.jokers.cards) do
    if v.ability.name == self.name then
        joker = v
        break
    end
end
return {
    x_mult = card.ability.extra,
    colour = G.C.MULT,
    card = joker
}

something like that

yes, that is flawed in that it only triggers on the leftmost card when you have multiple, but...

if card = card doesn't work, then that will.

[loud citrus]

holy shit that worked

HOW???

it's like saying 1 = 1

yeah, duh

why does this work???

[narrow pollen]

okay uh

here's what i think is happening

calculate has a variable called "card"

(self, card, context)

[loud citrus]

you made it sound reasonable

[narrow pollen]

and you're putting that value into the list that you're returning

with a key of the same name

[loud citrus]

so it prevents card from not being card in this context?

[opal spade]

self is not a card in smods

its a center

every vanilla self would be a smods card

[loud citrus]

oh, this is very good to know, so that's why card replaces self

and center is used as well

[opal spade]

???

[opal spade]

not sure if center is actually used, to me it looks more like a sideeffect of how smods api is programmed

(the function is run within the center)

[opal spade]

center is the one executing the function, as opposed to vanilla where its the specific card entity doing it

[loud citrus]

is there a recourse to see how the smods api works? i've been trying to find it but i've just been stuck to looking at other mods

[opal spade]

smods wiki is a bit outdated but generally a good source, lovely dumps and smods code are better at seeing how it all works in practice though

[loud citrus]

okay thank you :)
i'll take a looksy

though will it be updated at all?

[opal spade]

for example this is the code within card.calculate_joker

smods takes the card's center and makes it do the calculate method using card's self and context

because its obj:calculate and not obj.calculate the calculate's self is the obj, not the card thats being passed into it

[loud citrus]

so that's why if card.ability.name == "your joker" then isn't needed

[teal estuary]

i’ve been out of the loop of balatro modding since early this year, has steamodded had any major changes to its API?

really got an itch to start making stuff for balatro again, but wanna make sure my existing stuff will at least ‘work’ 😭

[languid mirage]

it did change quite a bit

[crisp coral]

early this year? very

[teal estuary]

☹️

[languid mirage]

there's lots of examples for stuff though

you can find example mods in steamodded source code

[teal estuary]

oh yeah i’ve used those before, with varying degrees of success

[languid mirage]

and you can read wiki for docs (though not everything is documented)

[teal estuary]

cool, ty

are the docs fully up to date?

[languid mirage]

the ones with the numbers yeah

[teal estuary]

cool, cool

[teal estuary]

seems a lot more finished from before, neat

should hopefully be pretty easy to get back into it

thank you

[languid mirage]

np

[brisk rose]

I think that what I'm doing with the canvases is stopping the game from loading, but nothing I try helps

so, doing a slightly different method for getting the iages, going from @dense jasper 's code and doing s lot of work on my end, I was able to get that working and even overlaying the souls. However, no matter what I do, it hangs indefinitily right before the main menu

messages sent kinda out of order

[lost rover]

where do I find the vanilla atlas sheets?

[brisk rose]

like find them in code, or physically in the games files?

[lost rover]

i wanted to modify them for the google translate thing so ig physically

[brisk rose]

unzip the exe

in the resources folder

[lost rover]

unfortunately im on a mac

[brisk rose]

hmm... download the exe in a vm :P lol there's probasbly a way

maybe the mac binary is just a zip too?

[tepid crow]

yeah you should just try unzipping it on mac as well, might work, might not

[lost rover]

part of the problem is also i'm not familiar with code n stuff and theres a lot of folders

[crisp coral]

try 7zip or sth, extracting on mac is most likely possible

also rotaeno colab jumpscare

[lost rover]

lmaoo

[crisp coral]

but yeah im sure there are mac users that have done so

[lost rover]

i give up for now, don't know enough to do anything

[limpid flint]

you just want the vanilla assets?

[lost rover]

yeah

for a stupid project

[limpid flint]

I can do that, wait a second

There you go

[lost rover]

thanks!

better not be malware

this mod is gonna take like 50 years to make for me lmao

[gilded narwhal]

Art for all the decks I've made so far

[tacit escarp]

this guy is currently trying to make ai llms play balatro, not very successful so far but pretty entertaining

[hardy viper]

my first balatro mod was a very deterministic random seed balatro ai

granted it was mid and only ever got to ante 4, exclusively because i accidentally left in a bug where it would purchase every card it saw in the shop

[rough furnace]

oh I've heard of teej

[hardy viper]

he's gonna have a blast if he hasn't done balatro modding yet /s

[tacit escarp]

i dont think he has

:p

[rough furnace]

He is familar with lua though

[hardy viper]

that's what i said when i started modding balatro and i still endured the suffering

[rough furnace]

I wasn't familar with lua but I didn't tocuh the ui so I'm sitll okay

[hardy viper]

it's gonna take him awhile to even get a working model of what actions the LLM can choose and how to properly execute those actions

[tacit escarp]

mayb help him idk

[hardy viper]

although i haven't worked with an LLM in ever so

[rough furnace]

is he going to mod the game or use some other way of interacting with it (like screenshots and mouse clicks)

[hardy viper]

maybe when im at home and he's still working on it

[hardy viper]

looks like a mod from the screenshot

[brisk rose]

LLMs are.... very non deterministic, so good luck interfacing with it with code

[hardy viper]

hes loading a lua file via steamodded so

[rough furnace]

I have interacted with llms with code and they sure are not detemrinsitc

[hardy viper]

yup

aceually I did work with an LLM once

[tacit escarp]

untrue, source: been using llms for a year locally

[hardy viper]

now that i think about it

[rough furnace]

oh he made an auto reload

neat

I should send him DebugPlus's watch command

or steal his watch command

depending which is better

[hardy viper]

if i still have my old code for my balatro "ai" i could probably just send him snippets if he needs them

or rather he could just like join here lol

but if he's doing fine he's probably gonna be ok

[rough furnace]

I should join the stream after my class

[brisk rose]

yeah I think some of the smaller local models can be deterministic, so I was speaking a bit too broadly

[rough furnace]

I mean setting the heat to 0 or whatever makes them detemrinsitc doesn't it?

[mellow sable]

I wonder if he knows about https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1224090711759130735

[mellow sable]

Actually I’m pretty sure it’s not ported to Steamodded 1.0

[hardy viper]

don't make the man use python smh

[mellow sable]

In that case the replay part of Ankh could probably be modified to accept actions on the fly

[hardy viper]

oh probably yeah

[brisk rose]

would rather the game was in python because I have a tiny bit of experience in it and it feels more natrural

preformance be damned

[hardy viper]

or rather he could just look at the ankh source and see your methods

[brisk rose]

because.... I am very sure it'd have none to speak of

reminds me of the idea I had once to make a modular pokemon fangame in python where you could supply your own assets and iwell... it'd basicallly be an engine for pokemon fangames

[rough furnace]

I would rather not use python

[brisk rose]

never tried doing it, and i'm sure it's an awful idea

[hardy viper]

it's not like lua is famously fast or anything

[brisk rose]

no, but I presume there's a reason it's used for games a fair bit more than python

[rough furnace]

It's much easier to embed

[hardy viper]

that

[brisk rose]

fair enough

[hardy viper]

love2d (internally) is rust right? or is that just lovely

[rough furnace]

love2d is cpp lovely is rust

[hardy viper]

it's cpp

[brisk rose]

I guess the difference between an interpreted language and a jit language isn;t gonna be much, especially because python can be jit or even aot compiled apperently

[rough furnace]

but it's using luajit for it's lua runtime which is c

[brisk rose]

and yeah I know love2d itself is cpp

see, I know.... very little about the technical side of languages and all that

[hardy viper]

i might know some someday

someday...

[brisk rose]

I'm just pleasently surprised I was able to figure out how to overlay a cards soul sprite if it has one on the main sprite without asking for help here (and without having to make the card object)

for this #1292331049883533322

and then ofc @dense jasper took my hacky implementation (which to be fair was built on their code as a base which coulsn't do that part yet) and made it actually work without hanging the game and not being super nessy and full of unnessacary nonsense

[gaunt thistle]

Lua math is surprisingly quick

[hardy viper]

interesting

[gaunt thistle]

Math will probably refute what I'm saying but Lua's math performance is probably why mods like Cryptid work so well

I've considered exposing some native math functions via Lovely but it's not really necessary

[regal wolf]

Lua is actually a pretty fast language for what it does

But the great thing about Lua is, if you need speed, you can use the C API

[gaunt thistle]

Yeah, and the FFI layer is pretty simple

I do wish that Lua had preemptive multithreading

[regal wolf]

Yeah, me too. It’s one of the biggest downsides to Lua tbh.

[gaunt thistle]

I wonder if there would be any value in Lovely spawning a separate compute process entirely for score calculation.

That way the game isn't as likely to die

[regal wolf]

I feel like it might just create more problems?

[gaunt thistle]

absolutely

[regal wolf]

Also, the mods that crash the game are definitely not well optimised from the ones I’ve seen 💀

[mellow sable]

Yeah if Balatro was written in something like Python we would be seeing much more lag with Cryptid

[rough furnace]

I thought of this but it would probably need like a rewrite of the ui or a bunch of patching stuff together

[mellow sable]

Although there are ways you can go much faster - the speed improvements from Brainstorm switching to FFI is a good example

Theoretically you could write a program to run all of Balatro’s calculations in FFI, but that wouldn’t be practical

[rough furnace]

also good luck supporting mods

[hardy viper]

compute time isn't even the limiting factor atm so

[gaunt thistle]

afaik you can override Lua's math operators

[mellow sable]

nope!

[hardy viper]

only for non numbers

[gaunt thistle]

yikes

[mellow sable]

otherwise people wouldn’t need to make Talisman compat

[hardy viper]

adding 2 numbers together completely ignores metatables yeah

[gaunt thistle]

what an annoying limitation

[mellow sable]

This is going to require a complete refactor of Immolate lol (for when we add it to Brainstorm)

[hardy viper]

i feel like the whole "math is quick" thing would go down the drain if you checked for a metatable whenever you did an operation

but what do i know about stuff that low

[gaunt thistle]

and like I said, Lua math is super fast

I think that we could solve a lot of problems if we simply deleted math

[maiden phoenix]

Sorry MathIsFun we need to kill you

[mellow sable]

clearly he meant Mathguy

[maiden phoenix]

From MathIsFun to MathIsNotFun

[languid mirage]

mathisgone

[mellow sable]

[mental nacelle]

new mod that removes any string related to mathematics

[mellow sable]

Call it MathIsDone_

[rough furnace]

can I get all text in a uibox

[maiden phoenix]

Damn it the blind goal is "A gigantic amount" and I only got "A huge amount" ...

[hardy viper]

other than by hooking the uibox constructor?

[rough furnace]

pefereably

[hardy viper]

then idk

[tepid crow]

recursively iterate over the children checking if their n is G.UIT.T?

[hardy viper]

oh wait

you mean all text contained in a uibox

not getting all text in every uibox

[rough furnace]

yes

[hardy viper]

mb

[tepid crow]

if you do this, might also need to check for n == G.UIT.O and that the object is a DynaText instance

[stray orbit]

how can i use create_card or SMODS.create_card to make cards with a specific enhancement

playing cards i mean

cant seem to make it work

[wintry solar]

Think you just need to set the enhancement afterwards

[rough furnace]

local function stealText(table)
    local text = ""
    if table.config and table.config.text then text = text .. table.config.text 
    elseif table.nodes then text = text .. stealText(table.nodes)
    else
        for k,v in ipairs(table) do
            text = text .. stealText(v)
        end
    end
    return text
end

local card = test
card:hover()
local tab = card.ability_UIBox_table.main
card:stop_hover()
local fin = "" 
for k,v in ipairs(tab) do 
    fin = fin .. stealText(v) .. "\n"
end
return fin

[tepid crow]

like a thief in the night...

[loud citrus]

if you can't beat them, join em... context i couldn't get rid of the vanilla message so i mead it a feature

[topaz sun]

Guys, how can I make a joker check +mult and xmult added to score by other jokers that triggered before?

Is it possible without lovely patches?

[wintry solar]

No

Well

Unless you rerun the calculations and collect the results

[topaz sun]

Can I rerun the calculations of other jokers in a joker?

Sorry, I'm a little in over my head here

[rough furnace]

what are you trying to do here?

[topaz sun]

I'm trying to implement this. The idea is to take an already calculated joker, grab the amount of Xmult it aded, multiply it by 0.1 and have Integral use this value during its own calculation

[rough furnace]

Uhh I would check how cryptid exponetia does it

[topaz sun]

Will do, thanks

[topaz sun]

Damn, it's basically the same thing lol

[stray orbit]

dunno why i didnt think of that ty

[mental nacelle]

how would i select a random joker?

[mental nacelle]

nvm got it working

[brisk rose]

Is there a way to use a custom sprite (that the shader still gets applied to ofc) for a given edition? I have an idea for #1292971421349445785 (not at all my project but it'd be cool to contribute) where the pokemon is shiny if the card is negative

Relatedly, how would i have to edit an image so that the negative shader turns it back to normal?

[rough furnace]

Figured I would make this for everyone https://gist.github.com/WilsontheWolf/87475e6ac25857d8a7c73d3cf81f972a

[brisk rose]

I presume most of it is just something like this in the calculate function:

card.atlas=[sprite for negative]
End

[opal spade]

I had a similar effect for ultimate pianist/last hope from my unfinished mod but for that I brute forced it until it looked right on the edition viewer posted by stupid

It would make sense to look inside the actual shader to see how it does colors

[opal spade]

tbh this would probably require a lot of effort but why not turn pokemon into soul_pos?

then they wouldn't need editing for negatives

[brisk rose]

Hmm, not a bad idea

[opal spade]

for actual change, I'd add a hook to set edition so it sets edition and then trigger's the joker's set_sprites if that joker has a pokemon tag

[brisk rose]

I guess that'd be less busy when than adding something to every joker

[opal spade]

tbh silly idea but I'd just make it so when a pokemon joker is created, it runs the actual shiny check

[brisk rose]

Has anyone made a code editor yet that can edit code with code?

[opal spade]

1/4096

[brisk rose]

Like it's an obvious idea but the closest thing I know to it is just writing a script separately and feeding it what you have

[opal spade]

tbh, if there's that much redundant code, why not write it in a more automated way

[brisk rose]

Idk i guess technically every text editor has that. Regexes are Turing complete afterall

[opal spade]

so that it generates all the redundant bits and you just need to specify the unique bits

[brisk rose]

I mean yeah you'd need a generate_code.py or something too do it how I'd be happy with. The reason being I hate navigating mod files where people do automate it themselves

[opal spade]

no I mean like

[brisk rose]

I'd much rather have normal smods.Joker definitions for every joker, etc, etc in the final product

[opal spade]

programming the mod in a way so it generates smods jokers procedurally

[brisk rose]

Yes people do that

And I hate the how it is to navigate the file after

[opal spade]

I mean you could make a table that represents all the unique parts of each joker and then iterate over it to fill in the missing redundant code fields procedurally

so the initial table looks like a set of smods jokers

[brisk rose]

Again I understand. I've seen mods with that structure

I have an aesthetician preference for anods.joker objects being drag and drop modular

With everything being in one place

~~remember, I made #1271500476457812120 ~~

Jestobiology did do something like that and I had to feed it into chatgpt to get bare joker definitions to add

Because lazy

And wasn't yet trying to code again

[edgy reef]

Ideally I hope for either everything in very few files or everything neatly separated so browsing isn't hell

(although actually making every object separated involves convoluted loading setups)

xdd

[brisk rose]

Yeah every joker definition being its own file is a trend in not sure about

But browsing is still nice at least

[edgy reef]

It does come with the small benefit of feeling nice that you're making big progress on a mod update (this is 80% cosmetic + cleanup and 20% rebalances, legit nothing new yet).

[frosty dock]

I mean I usually just use global search to browse

but I agree it's nice structurally

[brisk rose]

And here I am using xed she is I truly needed to do a global search if have to use grep in the terminal, lol

Actually that night not be true. Xed might have more support for project-like features than I use one give it credit for

[regal wolf]

That’s so hacky, why not just add an exception to draw?

[regal wolf]

Classes are your best friend.
-# well, metatables

[wintry solar]

Perhaps worth noting at the end that you can also create your own queues to dump your own events in that way you’ll never block someone else’s events

[opal spade]

what's so hacky about using the second layer the game already provides?

[glossy stone]

my descent starts now, i wanna get to modding after c++

[glossy stone]

like any resources to start learning how to make mods

[opal spade]

reading smods wiki and looking at smods example mods is a good starting point i think

[loud citrus]

why does this say juice up is a nil value?

[tepid crow]

do you have the full error? I'm guessing it's because the first argument doesn't have a juice_up function defined though

[loud citrus]

yeah, it says it lies with commonevents

[tepid crow]

yeah so self:juice_up(...) doesn't exist

[crisp coral]

pass card instead of self

[loud citrus]

right i forgot 😭

Thank you

[hardy viper]

self is card.config.center iirc

[wintry solar]

@mellow sable retrigger question, if I've got a joker that copies an effect, like blueprint, how am I getting any text to appear under my joker rather than the copied card?

[mellow sable]

Look at how I patched blueprint (or how old blueprint works in Cryptid)

I don’t fully remember what changes I made lol

[wintry solar]

I don't get messages appearing under blueprint though

they appear under the copied card

[rough furnace]

I noticed that too

I think it might be a smods bug

it happens on scholar

[edgy reef]

I saw it as well without Cryptid

It's likely a context.blueprint_card oversight.

I know that's used to point to Blueprint/Brainstorm or the card being copied.

Which would change any text eval to show up on that card.

[zinc zenith]

Hello all sorry if im in the wrong place or anything. I've got an idea for a mod but have 0 idea of where to start the whole process. I'm familiar with lua scripting and general programming (largely python) and could figure out how to get stuff rolling once I know how to start digging around.
Is there some place with a 101 intro into pulling source code and explaining the injectors for those trying to create mods?

[rough furnace]

Take a look at this https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/01.-Getting-started#creating-your-first-mod

[glad wasp]

i saw someone say i should add self:juice_up to a joker to get it to wobble, but idk where to add it in the code, as when I try to the game crashes.

and while I'm at it, blueprint is saying my joker is incompatable with it, when it's a simple +chips and mult per card joker. do I have to manually set up blueprint compatibility or?

wait, i just tried blueprint with it, and it actually worked?? despite it saying it was incompatible???

[nocturne garnet]

change blueprint_compat to true

[nocturne garnet]

try card:juice_up instead

[glad wasp]

i tried that but it's still not working. I think im putting it in the wrong place

here's a snippet of my code, (where card:juice_up currently is is just to visualise where ive tried to put it individually. i never put it in both places at the same time)

[north prairie]

where does one get the spritesheet for the jokers

[wintry solar]

It’s after the return here

[glad wasp]

still crashes, no matter if i say card or self

[wintry solar]

oh wait

it's card:juice_up()

[glad wasp]

ah

[glad wasp]

nope, crashes still

[rough furnace]

whats the crash?

[glad wasp]

hold on, lemmie trigger it again and ill send the log

here it is

[rough furnace]

you have a syntax error

Would need to see your code

[glad wasp]

its here, only difference being i only have the top-most card:juice_up and have added a () to the end of it

[rough furnace]

oh it might not like having a juice_up after the return

and even if it did it would never run

[glad wasp]

ok, now i'm back to square one.
where should I put it?

[rough furnace]

above the return

you have 2 in the shown code

[glad wasp]

i have put it above the return before, and it crashes

[rough furnace]

can you just send the full code?

[glad wasp]

...ok ignore what i last said

it works now

[nocturne garnet]

ah sorry i meant card:juice_up()

[glad wasp]

...ok when i said it works i just meant it didnt crash on start up, apperently.

now, if i use card:juice_up(), nothing changes, and if i use self:juice_up(), the game crashes when it's triggered.

[rough furnace]

by any chance does it juice up immediatly after pressing play hand?

[wintry solar]

can you send the current code?

[glad wasp]

yep, didnt notice that before.

[rough furnace]

yeah you need to make an event then

[glad wasp]

ok, how do i do that?

[rough furnace]

I don't have access to stuff rn

[wintry solar]

wilson posted a lovely guide to the event manager this morning

[glad wasp]

nice, was it in this chat or somewhere else?

[wintry solar]

yeah this one

[topaz sun]

Why does it crash with '<name>' expected near '5' ?

[rough furnace]

that is not how for statements are formatted

[topaz sun]

Thanks

I'm truly a buffoon

[wintry solar]

ahhhh, figured out the blueprint message issues

[royal brook]

Odd question, and apologies if it's dumb, but I understand that the Priority system means that mods with a higher priority are loaded after those with a lower priority, yes? Would I still be able to detect that e.g. a certain mod is installed?

If you're curious about the use case, i'm wondering if I can detect if Jen's Almanac is installed and add some Token Cards to match with Tags I also wanna add. it's not a super huge issue i'm just curious if it was possible

[rough furnace]

for steamodded the smallest priority is loaded first and then the one's with higher priority get loaded. So if you have a smaller priority then Jen's, all of Jen's stuff shoul;d be loaded then

[tepid crow]

yeah, it loads them from -inf -> +inf

[rough furnace]

sory you need a higher priority then jen's

I said smaller in my message

[tepid crow]

you can still check if a mod exists using SMODS.Mods[id], and check if it's loaded with .can_load, even if you load before the other mod does

(iirc)

[royal brook]

I see

[rough furnace]

Unfrotuatnly for you jen has inf priority

[royal brook]

Like I said it's not a big issue (I'm still spriting aha) so if it doesn't work i'm not too miffed

[wintry solar]

it'd be (SMODS.Mods[id] or {}).can_load

I don't know jen's id though

[tepid crow]

^ that's the safe way to check

[rough furnace]

mod id is just jen

[royal brook]

Who needs safety?

no but the help is appreciated

[rough furnace]

I love having my mod crash when jen's almanaic is not installed

[wintry solar]

without having looked at the internal stuff though, I'm pretty sure priority is for injection order and that the mods are loaded all at the same time

[rough furnace]

lovely and steamodded both have priroties

[tepid crow]

I thought steamodded first collected all the mods, then loaded them in order of priority

[rough furnace]

it does

[tepid crow]

and lovely priority being a completely separate thing

[wintry solar]

yeah but the priority isn't for assigning whether the mods are present or not, thats all done before the priority kicks in

[tepid crow]

yeah that's what I meant with "collecting all the mods"

[rough furnace]

oh yeah sorry I was thinking in cases where you want to detemrine if an object was regiusteered

like if you want to take ownership

[wintry solar]

ah yeah, in that case you'd need a higher priority

or if you're using a type thats defined in that mod

[tepid crow]

only if you want to directly interface with that mod yeah

[regal wolf]

Is there a legitimate reason to do this?

[rough furnace]

Idk I'd ask jen

[regal wolf]

Surely not right?

[tepid crow]

Jen said he doesn't want any other mods to build off of almanac

[rough furnace]

I mean you nifht wabt to have a higher priority if you modify quite a few other mods stuff but inf is not nessicary

[regal wolf]

LOL??

[tepid crow]

setting priority to inf is definitely a way to do that, I guess

[rough furnace]

I mean we could just fork the almanac

[regal wolf]

yeah exactly

It’s literally open source

[tepid crow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[regal wolf]

That’s kinda cringe lol

Also Jens almanac source code isn’t publicly accessible anymore to my knowledge, which goes against the modding rules…

[hardy viper]

you can just join the cryptid discord and look at it so 🤷

[brisk rose]

I think publicly means this server

But he does post download links in the channel I think

[regal wolf]

as far as I'm aware that's not good enough

[hardy viper]

i think publicly means publicly

being able to download the source code is 100% good enough though

[brisk rose]

A server he controls is not public by definition

In theory he did ban whoever he wants

[regal wolf]

^

[hardy viper]

well maybe thatll be a problem if he ever started doing that lol

[brisk rose]

Wait it is the cryptid server not his

[hardy viper]

he has admin there so

[tepid crow]

it's not his server, no

[brisk rose]

But still

[tepid crow]

I'd argue that as long as it's not an exe/obscured code (e.g. lovely's exe), the files itself being available for download are "public" enough

[regal wolf]

Maybe I'm misremembering something else, but I swear the code had to be accessable on github.

[regal wolf]

if its a zip u cant preview before downloading

[mental nacelle]

that sort of infers the github thing then

[brisk rose]

That's a decent point, though not exclusive to jen

[regal wolf]

Who ever said it was exclusive to Jen?

[brisk rose]

Fair

[tepid crow]

I'd still say that those are "available and viewable", but I'm not enforcing the rules

I also prefer people putting their code on github, makes it easier for me too

[regal wolf]

you're missing the point though

[brisk rose]

This is why the gpl should be required

[regal wolf]

the whole idea of source code being viewable is so that there are no bad actors.

[brisk rose]

Or some copyleft license

[crisp elbow]

I mean gplv3 is technically required for any steamodded mod

I think

[brisk rose]

Yes, that's how I interpret it too

[regal wolf]

A lot of mods also have copied code from the game

[tepid crow]

sure, but I'm neither the person enforcing that rule, nor the person breaking your interpretation of that rule

[edgy reef]

It is, everyone just either forgot or didn't know about the license so we have a bunch of mods that have "other" licenses.

Altho idk what would actually happen with liscence conflicts like this

[regal wolf]

I never said you were..?

[crisp elbow]

Yeah that's what I thought it's implicit

Because you're using the modding api and code from a gplv3 project, your project is technically gplv3

[regal wolf]

Yeah

[brisk rose]

Though I guess the gpl doesn't really prevent Jen trolling addons

It just makes it unenforceable

[languid mirage]

so is ankh's code? 🤔

[regal wolf]

No, it doesn't

[regal wolf]

yeah that's why anhk doesn't have a thread here

Wait, no ankh does

[crisp elbow]

Ankh is also a lovely mod

I thought not smod

[regal wolf]

that's also true

[languid mirage]

I mean, the rule doesn't say that code needs to be on github

it's not a closed source

you can download and see the code

[regal wolf]

well

[languid mirage]

unless Im misunderstanding it

[tepid crow]

I'm just trying to say you're talking to wrong guy, I'm not the person you need to convince

[crisp elbow]

The rule does leave a little lax inerpretation

[regal wolf]

it depends on how the mods see it i guess

[crisp elbow]

I usually interpret it as publicly viewable source code before download

[regal wolf]

but you can get viruses, etc from even just downloading a file. (0-click ios exploit, for example)

[regal wolf]

That is also my interpretation of similar clauses

[crisp elbow]

Something you can clone from a git and see what it actually has in it

Before you do that

[brisk rose]

Well not if its an actual zip AFAIK. That's why you shouldn't hide known file extensions

[crisp elbow]

Technically every steamodded mod is "open source" code though

As in it isn't obfuscated

[regal wolf]

right but u cant blame people for not knowing about stuff like that

there are a lot of poeple who try to mod the game who are not at all "technologically savvy"

[languid mirage]

well, some projects like #1276894022656462910 I dont feel comfortable posting on github, as it's 1-1 ported balatro source code

so that means its breaking the rule?

[brisk rose]

No. It's Windows's defaults fault

[crisp elbow]

Well that isn't a mod to the game

[languid mirage]

and some projects like #1290310126921711716 are too small to be really considered a project

[languid mirage]

it is something you download from this server, which is the point of concern?

[regal wolf]

Well, kind of...?

Do not redistribute the Balatro source code.

[brisk rose]

Tbh that's... fine AFAIK. Lots of mods use parts of balatro code directly

[tepid crow]

last time I checked on github, there was a github project with the entire balatro source code, that was a fun find

[brisk rose]

Yeah there's that

[regal wolf]

yeah that is not allowed lol

[brisk rose]

But like. I think it means no pirating the actual game

[regal wolf]

It does, but It also extends to not shipping parts of the game as other things.

[brisk rose]

It says "the"

Which implies the whole thing

[regal wolf]

No not really

The only implies there is only one source code. which is true.

[brisk rose]

"Don't redistribute Balatro source code" would be different

Count vs collective noun

[languid mirage]

then I guess steamodded that overrides vanilla games functions is even worse 😭

[regal wolf]

It's a grey area. I don't think your project, or steamodded is disallowed.

[languid mirage]

Ig

that's why I'm only posting on discord

[limpid flint]

I think I am out of the loop

[languid mirage]

it should be within the rules, as it is game's source code. within modding section

it's as if I only posted a snippet of it raw

because instead of having it in zip files, I can just post it in separate messages

[regal wolf]

I think it's fine in the context of balatro, but if you were to then advertise it as seperate from Balatro you might have problems.

[languid mirage]

I'm not advertising it for anything other than balatro tbh

[regal wolf]

No exactly

[tepid crow]

I think that's a good point tbh

[regal wolf]

I think it's a good idea to put the code on github though, and just referece balatro where necessary.

[crisp elbow]

Yeah I don't usually like downloading mods directly from discord especially if they update it that way because like.. it seems horribly inefficient too. I'm the type of guy who would wanna push every thing once i'm done with it and have it be rolling when adding new features then just making releases only

[brisk rose]

Tbh making my own mod pack benefited me in that way just as much as being able to distribute it

I should really tell people how to clone it instead of only distributing it as a zip (and now Dim's manager)

[limpid flint]

It (manager) is far from perfect but it's good enough for me

[crisp coral]

I'm fairly certain the rule is just "don't obfuscate your code"

posting it as a zip directly doesn't matter, as long as you can still see all the code inside

(which is why Ankh is like. technically legal)

[rough furnace]

Jens almanac isn't shared in this server so I don't think the server mod rules apply to it. Also the rules just specify that the source has to be vieeable which it is

[tepid crow]

it is - #1262697083438235729 message

[rough furnace]

Oh well the zip is shared here so it's accessible by the peolem here

[crisp coral]

honestly i have no clue how he isn't able to manage github repos for his mods but

whatevs

[regal wolf]

yeah idk

I have a feeling its something to do with the whole "no one make addons"

[regal wolf]

rases problems though. Zips can't really be examined until downloaded, which could introduce viruses if it was a file posing as a zip.

[rough furnace]

I mean they are about as easy to check for viruses as a githuv repo

Possibly easier Becuase they can't change very easily where a repo can be changed at any moment

[crisp coral]

ironic since the consumables in the mod are taken from TheAutumnCircus

which idk if he has asked Lyman for permission to use the art. definitely don't see anything crediting him tho

[brisk rose]

Yeah attribution apparently is a requirement of the gpl when used properly. Though for code snippets I feel it's pretty optional in practice. The images though should be credited at least to the original project

I mean I left Lyman and itafayder in the mod authors for defused as well as everyone listed in that "expansion" which feels sufficient

[crisp coral]

i mean, here credit is needed because you're building on top of FusionJokers

same should be applied to Almanac's ThAC consumables

[brisk rose]

True though not exactly how I would word it v/ think about it

[regal wolf]

Commit history ?

[regal wolf]

Oh really…?

That’s very ironic…

[rough furnace]

I can overwrite commit history and also one commit could do a bunch of work that in one commit that makes it hard to tell if malware was added or not, (and that's even if you chrkc the commit history)

[regal wolf]

Hard, but not impossible

Nothings perfect but there’s no point trying to argue that discord is just as safe as GitHub.

[rough furnace]

I mean if your using githbu releases it's litterally the same as it's just an uploaded zip

[regal wolf]

I still think GitHub is much safer overall.

[rough furnace]

I don't think it makes a difference

saftey wise

[loud citrus]

I've decided how to nerf wee joker, and this nerf will make wee joker more interactive and targets it's dependency on retriggers.

[brisk quartz]

not the wee joker

[loud citrus]

Don't worry, it will still be overpowered but not instantly run winning when you get any form of retriggers.

I'm too afraid to nerf it any farther, the masses will eat me alive

[brisk rose]

I guess rare shouldn't mean anything /hj

[loud citrus]

What 😂
Rare shouldn't be the reason you can win a game as your only joker, have you seen the chips only run?

It is the best source of chips right now without question in my mind

[opal spade]

but why? modding is a community effort, and doing stuff like this goes against that I feel like

jen's almanac itself builds off cryptid, then why aren't other mods allowed to build off it

[loud citrus]

That reminds me, I should put something up saying anyone can use my code

[tepid crow]

I agree! I was just giving context for the conversation

[brisk rose]

Building around a specific rank isn't easy imo. Idk my perspective is skewed. I have plenty of more consistent sources of chips and with the deck I play with usually have to play til ante 10 to win

The idea of just playing vanilla with a rebalamcing mod isn't part of my universe

But I'm sure it makes sense in that context

[tepid crow]

it's unfortunate that an add-on mod doesn't want any other mods as add-ons

[regal wolf]

Exactly

[brisk rose]

I'd be flattered if anyone wants to build off DeFused

[royal brook]

This is like. impossible levels of lame imo

not saying it's that big of a deal but like. cmon man

[loud citrus]

That's why it's all optional, I'm making this mod for three types of people, those who want buffed vanilla content to compare to mods, those who want a new vanilla experience and those who desire a balanced experience. The config allows for all three of these wants to be met.

Personally i stand with the three of the desires i mentioned, but the one I stand with most is a balanced experience.

The change to wee joker is played 2's instead of scored 2's, removal of one synergy to hopefully add many others.

[brisk rose]

Hmm. Interesting

Only really synergies with poker hands under 5 cards

So not for me, but for at the very least all those brain rotters and mercurisns out there

[loud citrus]

I'm going to take this as a compliment? 😂

[brisk rose]

Neutral connotation tbh on the specifics. But complementing your grasp of GameDesign™️

[tepid crow]

I'm a proud brain rotter

[brisk rose]

Flusher all the way

[tepid crow]

flushing skibidi toilet till I sigma

[brisk rose]

Gotta have my Iuppiters

[regal wolf]

...

https://tenor.com/view/cat-holding-head-cat-sad-cat-rahh-wahhhh-gif-11843610789762008433

[opal spade]

tbh that kinda makes me want to make something that builds off jens almanac bcos its like a challenge

[loud citrus]

Me reading this

[frigid flame]

so i want to get into modding

but chrome is deleting lovely injector whenever i try installing it

anyone know how i can get around this?

[glass scaffold]

It should give you an option to continue the download

btw how do I get Cryptid to work with Proton?

I need to find the location to drop Cryptid and things like that

[frigid flame]

yeah i don't see it anywhere, it's just "delete from history" and "learn why chrome blocks some downloads"

[glass scaffold]

Odd

[tepid crow]

try using a different browser - I know for sure that firefox works

[frigid flame]

never thought trying to mod in Kitchen Tiles would end up being this much of a hassle /j

[frigid flame]

ok this allowed me to get as far as getting the zip file in my downloads this time so that's good

ok onto step 2

ok i just allow this, right?

[tepid crow]

either that or disable windows defender completely yeah

there's a whole section about win defender if you scroll down a bit in the guide

[frigid flame]

a console looking thing popped up while the game was open, did i do it right?

[tepid crow]

that's the command prompt, it allows lovely, steamodded and other mods to actually output stuff

[frigid flame]

alright

[tepid crow]

having that open means lovely is working at least

[frigid flame]

now i just put steamodded-main in the mods folder, right?

AND THERE WE GO

so uh

now what?

[limpid flint]

Fun begins

Add mods ofc

[frigid flame]

does this mean i get to make kitchen tiles now?

[limpid flint]

What kitchen tile

[tepid crow]

https://tenor.com/bADEX.gif

[frigid flame]

Kitchen Tiles
"Stone Cards are considered Spades (suit changes every round)"

[limpid flint]

oH

Yeah boy

[frigid flame]

(preferably i'd want to go with how ancient joker determines the chosen suit)

how hard would this be to code?

as a starting joker?

[limpid flint]

That is so intense

[tepid crow]

Not too bad. You would have to monkeypatch/wrap/hook a function though
If this is your first time creating a balatro mod, I suggest reading https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/01.-Getting-started

[narrow pollen]

isn't there a function like... card:is_suit or something?

so there is!

[frigid flame]

trying to figure out how to add a joker rn

[frigid flame]

yeah uh

i don't think i have the mental capacity to do this lol

[gaunt thistle]

you absolutely do

[frigid flame]

the mod won't show up in the list

[brisk rose]

Do you have all the "-"s after and at the end?

Also idk if you have every thing for a header. I can't recal. It looks a bit sparse though

[frigid flame]

oh i did several things wrong i think

judging by that message

because i uh

understood none of that ;-;

[brisk rose]

I fixed the typo

Might be more comprehensible now

Basically just copy the exact header formatting from any 1.0 mod, including the stuff with all the dashes

[loud citrus]

does anyone know why my other half of the config isn't showing? i'm using the config from cardsleeves as a base

[brisk rose]

it's outside of the return statement and after it, I think

[loud citrus]

shouldn't be, lets find out

[brisk rose]

yeah I think I was looking at it wrong

[loud citrus]

it's not the problem

oh poo

[crisp coral]

the left side needs to be in a column node

[loud citrus]

i don't think i did it right, still having the same problem

hold on

oh god

[languid mirage]

nodes within nodes table need to be the same type to align the way you want them to

your first one is G.UIT.R (row), and the other one is G.UIT.C (column)

they need to be both either row or a column

[tepid sky]

:0 settings i like them but hate to make them cuz it just doesn't work lmao

[regal wolf]

No afaik

G.UIT.B is the most disappointing node to ever exist

IIRC u can’t give it children

[tame condor]

hello i would like to decompile balatro to know the names of the states and actions so i can add a "press space" for next round

i get this when i run balamod with -d flag.

[ERROR:flutter/runtime/dart_vm_initializer.cc(41)] Unhandled Exception: PathNotFoundException: Cannot open file, path = '/home/user/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/libraryfolders.vdf' (OS Error: No such file or directory, errno = 2)

i am working in linux.

[hardy viper]

first of all balatro is not compiled until runtime

[gaunt thistle]

do you just want to look at the game's source?

[tame condor]

yes

[tame condor]

oh ok

[hardy viper]

you can view the contents of the exe using 7zip or a similar program

i use a file explorer extension

forget what its called

[tame condor]

oh ok that should be faster thanks

[gaunt thistle]

w11 has native 7z explorer support hehe

[hardy viper]

oh sick

[tame condor]

so do i like rename the exe as 7zip?

[hardy viper]

TC4Shell

[gaunt thistle]

no need

[hardy viper]

nope, you can just right click on it and hit open archive

[languid mirage]

on linux you probably do?

also

you rename it to just .zip

and open as an archive

[tame condor]

i did 7z x Balatro.exe and that worked so yay

thanks

[hardy viper]

oh linux

[languid mirage]

k good to know

[brisk rose]

huh? I mean no.... you just rigfht click and open with archive manager

or any number of other ways probably

[languid mirage]

oh I misremembered then. I think you have to rename on mac

[tame condor]

so i found the cash_out function and i would like to know why simply calling G.FUNCS.cash_out() doesn't work?
i just want a SPACE keypress to trigger a cashout

[primal robin]

It's much more complicated than you think

[tame condor]

hmm interesting how so

[primal robin]

You can find my implementation in https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1270746376312979456

[tame condor]

oh thank you this is indeed super handy!

[languid mirage]

G.FUNCS table is used for functions that are run by interacting with UI elements (clicking, typing)

you can find exact place of it being used if you search G.FUNCS[ across all files

[tepid sky]

how do you scan across all files?

[languid mirage]

ctrl + shift + f

if you're using vscode

[tepid sky]

ooh nice

i didn't know there was a shortcut for it lol

[tepid sky]

"i beat balatro with only scaling/mult/chips jokers!!!"

[limpid flint]

Do you guys think we can make a mod that reduce/skip animations even further?

[hardy viper]

nopeus unsafe is good enough

[crisp coral]

balatro with too many qol mods plays itself

/ref

[limpid flint]

I haven't tried that, but the animations I have in mind are like these:

• cards flying in before title load
• main menu buttons flying in from bottom
• new cards unlocking
• the single card transition going in/out of runs
• blinds/cash-out/shop popping in/out from below screen

Mostly UI flying around

[hardy viper]

the only thing i can imagine speeding up the game would be to run batches of frames at once and only draw on the last one

which would speed up ui

and everything else

but like 3 times the speed for half the framerate is pretty bad

[limpid flint]

Yeah I don't think I know the UI stuff well enough to understand the technicality of this

[hardy viper]

FRAMECOUNTER = 0
local numFramesPerFrame = 3
local oldupd = love.update
function love.update(...)
 for i = 1, numFramesPerFrame do
  FRAMECOUNTER = FRAMECOUNTER + 1
  oldupd(...)
 end
end

local olddraw = love.draw
function love.draw(...)
 if FRAMECOUNTER%numFramesPerFrame == 0 then
  olddraw(...)
 end
end

something like this ig

[languid mirage]

pretty sure animations are controlled by dt (delta time), otherwise having higher FPS would speed up the game

[hardy viper]

well yeah

that'd run 3 frames at the same dt as 1 frame so effectively 3 times the speed

although you could just run 1 frame at 3 times the dt

with little difference

[languid mirage]

not little

3 updates is 3 times more intense than 1 update

[hardy viper]

yup

[languid mirage]

so you'll just be losing performance

[hardy viper]

there's a reason nopeus doesn't do it 🤷

[limpid flint]

So at best we can only speed it up, not skip them entirely

[languid mirage]

you can skip them

function Moveable:hard_set_VT() does that

every Moveable UI element has T and VT

T is "real" location/rotation of the element
and VT is "visual"

VT eases into T over time

which is the core of animations with this UI engine

that's what I do in cartomancer for jokers zoom

small difference is that CardArea has hard_set_cards that does it for me

[plush stream]

So... memorable...

[loud citrus]

This makes a lot more sense lol, this is what happens when you try to look at someone else's code without understanding it 😅

[languid mirage]

you can search UIT = to see what's in the table

in source code

would help understand UI stuff a bit more

[loud citrus]

Oh yes this Will be so helpful
Thank you so much!

Now I need to know if it's possible to give a description of a config by hovering your mouse other the toggle

[tepid crow]

You can have a description below a config option

[loud citrus]

Yeah but I want to write a lot for each one 😅
Kind of like a built in wiki

[opal spade]

you can

I don't remember how but it's an option

[plush stream]

Veeery memorable

[opal spade]

iirc galdur has that so you can see there

[opal spade]

that joker is memorable

[tepid crow]

Galdur and CardSleeves both have the description below the config I'm pretty sure

[plush stream]

Oh no... too much memories

[loud citrus]

Is this a mod?

[tepid crow]

You could also hook the hover function I suppose

[opal spade]

isn't info on hover?

[tepid crow]

Are you talking about the config menu?

[opal spade]

ye

info argument of create checkbox function

[tepid crow]

no, that's not on hover

that's the "description below" I kept talking about

[opal spade]

damn

[tepid crow]

like this

[opal spade]

strange that I remember there being a hover tooltip but that must be some mandella