💻・modding-dev

[zealous glen]

The Joker list could probably be better but right now it looks like

{'joker_name',
joker_name = true,}

That way they're loaded in order

because I can use ipairs to iterate over the integer indexed table values exclusively

the gsubs are just to convert the key into a name for printing

This is how I load hooks

And this is the file structure showing off all folders

[shell tangle]

Looking through the code, I'm kind of wondering if their keys are specifically "Gold" or "gold_seal" and so on, but take ownership automatically adds the "s_" to it so it can't find it. @wintry solar Any thoughts?

[wary crescent]

Hm, may i pm you?

[cedar flame]

the printout of G.P_CENTER_POOLS.Seal does say the key is just "Red"

[zealous glen]

Sure but I'm going to sleep

[cedar flame]

so you may be right

[zealous glen]

moment—wait it's not their fault

[wintry solar]

yeah probably just the colours

[shell tangle]

Would it require an addition to Steamodded to make them into SMODS objects, or what? Maybe something as simple as appending s_ to any mentions of the seals in the code might work?

[zealous glen]

Append s_ raised to the negative first power before the color name so it cancels out when Steamodded prepends s_ /j

[edgy reef]

Yeah the key is added onto seals but they don't normally have one in the first place.

So no matter what SMODS will try looking at the key as s_Red

Issue has been made

[cedar flame]

oh thanks, you beat me to it! :P

[mellow sable]

yeah you can definitely do better than Cryptid

[wary crescent]

Is there a resource somewhere for Badge colors?

[shell tangle]

What do you mean? Just the vanilla badge colors?

[wary crescent]

Any colors really

[opal spade]

G.C.

^ most colors are there

[shell tangle]

globals.lua, get_badge_colour() in UI_definitions.lua, and loc_colour in misc_functions.lua.

[wary crescent]

Ah i see, ty 😎

[cedar flame]

i need to reload the shop (re-evaluate UI tree) after a function... is there an easy way to do this already or am i going to have to patch something together?

[opal spade]

if you need to update the ui after changing something about it you can try [UIBox]:recalculate()

[uibox] being the uibox you need to update

unless im misunderstanding what u mean by "reevaluate ui tree"

[shell tangle]

Doesn't seem to work for the shop for some reason.

[cedar flame]

yeah, tried that 😔

[opal spade]

did you try doing it through an event?

[cedar flame]

yep!

hold on

if you want to see what i've been doing it's in https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1275677876036960279

[placid frigate]

so 1x is 71x95 what is the aspect for 2x and can i change it without re-doing the joker art?

[opal spade]

x2 is (71*2)x(95*2) = 142x190

you just need to take the x1 art and scale it up

scaling mode in your art program of choice should be nearest neighbour to about the program from trying to smooth out the pixels

idk what you mean by "can i change it"

[placid frigate]

like it scale it up without it looking weird

but i guess i just do scale mode

thank you

[opal spade]

ye you just need to make sure the program is using the correct scale mode

a lot of programs by default use modes that try to smooth out the image bcos thats usually what the user wants when scaling images

[placid frigate]

ok I did it, thiank you

[night pagoda]

How to change sticker's compatibility with other stickers?

I mean I can probably check existing stickers in apply() but that doesn't seem right

[night pagoda]

I can't get the hoverable word in the deck preview to work, what am I doing wrong?
Tried to put the same description in the G.localization.descriptions.Joker/Voucher/Tag, with no luck

[wintry solar]

yeah the {T:key} pulls the loc_txt from the center object rather than direct from the localization tables

[night pagoda]

oh, oof, do I need to create a dummy center object just for that

[wintry solar]

I guess so, yeah

[night pagoda]

alright, thanks!

[night pagoda]

okay that's all it took to get it working

[wintry solar]

oh nice

[tepid sky]

is this to make your own enhancement? or what's this supposed to do? (just askin)

[night pagoda]

This exists so I can hover over a word in my deck and it'll show what it means

[maiden phoenix]

Oh I didnt know you could load custom object as hover, last time I tried it crashed.

[tepid sky]

ooh ok, thats cool!

[languid mirage]

something's wrong with my joker... 🤔

[tepid sky]

call it: cut joker

cut it's litterally been cut

:)

[opal spade]

misprint my beloved

[languid mirage]

chi

[hollow flume]

That's a very wide spade

[opal spade]

why are you misprinting all over the place

[tepid sky]

pls fix ur printer

[languid mirage]

is this better?

[maiden phoenix]

Is this to replace the glitched edition?

[lusty epoch]

I think it’s just a separate edition

[languid mirage]

it wont replace glitched no

[lusty epoch]

Maybe not even for cryptid

[languid mirage]

jen will add it to jen's almanac

[tepid sky]

i don't think it changed? ;-;

[maiden phoenix]

Oh ok

[languid mirage]

I improved this part

anyways

I may have misprinted the misprint

[opal spade]

how many times does the misprint have to be misprinted for it to get printed correctly

[languid mirage]

depends on the shift tbh

[crisp coral]

she misprint on my misprint til i

[tepid sky]

Thats my boy!
..
Noo my boy!
..
Father help-

[zealous glen]

rint til i she misprint on my misp

[tepid sky]

how does one... make a base deck, like no modifications?

[night pagoda]

I'm trying to put a stake before the gold one and some weird shit happens (orange stake got duplicated and my stake is still at the end of the list), what am I doing wrong?

[wintry solar]

above_stake = 'orange'

[night pagoda]

oh, in that case do I need the take_ownership?

[wintry solar]

I don't know what unlocked_stake does

[night pagoda]

It is for which stake it unlocks next I assumed based on the vanilla stakes implementation in smods

I think take_ownership is broken or something because it just duplicated the stake

[wintry solar]

it's for some janky ass base game win counting

I rewrote stake unlocking to work based on applied stake completion

[night pagoda]

okay I don't really understand if I need it so I got rid of it

thanks for the help!

[wintry solar]

yeah it's not very useful

[night pagoda]

???

[wintry solar]

all it does is when you win on that deck it assigns a win to every stake below it if you haven't beaten them already

what does your loc_txt look like?

[wintry solar]

I think it needs your mod prefix

[night pagoda]

huh?

where?

[wintry solar]

cyan

[night pagoda]

that seems weird but I'll try

[wintry solar]

your loc table seems weird, I don't understand how you're making it

[night pagoda]

yeah, this doesn't make sense - it does retrieve exactly cyan and not bunc_cyan

[wintry solar]

how are you adding your localization stuff?

[night pagoda]

I use that for all of my stuff

and so far there was no problems like that

[night pagoda]

(did that message sent twice or not because discord showed it as red first)

[wintry solar]

oh I see

okay

 loc_txt = {description = {
            name = "Test Stake FINAL",
            text = {
            "Required score {T:e_foil}scales",
            "faster for each {C:attention}Ante"
            }
        }},

it needs to be description

[night pagoda]

ah

[wintry solar]

I don't think stakes ever got updated to now just description

afaik everything else is consistent now, but I could be wrong

also sneak peak of info tips on stakes

[night pagoda]

so it is something that'd be changed in the future?

[night pagoda]

yaay

ouch why it adds this line

I don't want it

[wintry solar]

which line?

[zealous glen]

Presumably the last one

Since it’s not in their localization

[night pagoda]

"Applies Orange Stake" is not in the localization, I think it was added because I put that it applies the orange stake

yup

[wintry solar]

that's automatically added, yeah

[night pagoda]

can I get rid of it?

[zealous glen]

You can get rid of your last line

[night pagoda]

that won't be consistent with the other stakes then

[zealous glen]

I think Steamodded automatizes it since mods can have nonlinear stakes

Probably just a matter of Steamodded fixing vanilla Stake descriptions

[night pagoda]

okay, I'll hope that will happen in the future then

ty!

[wintry solar]

yeah if people are injecting stakes into the original line of 8 maybe they need changing

but I'd just recommend people add their stakes to appear after gold in the order

[tepid sky]

i've seen that stake coin in the textures but how come i never seen it in the base game? the coin looks so good!

[night pagoda]

Wait, if there's a description field for the stake localization then the other one must be for the joker sticker?

because I'm not sure how to add that one

(this one I mean)

[wintry solar]

I think the sticker text is just outisde of the description part

[zealous glen]

What if the Stake is easier than White 🤔

[wintry solar]

I still think it shouldn't intefere with the base game stakes

[night pagoda]

nope, I think it should have some other field because that doesn't work

still ERROR-ing

[tepid sky]

omg- i may of have done something :>

i may or may not have made a deck for every rank-

:)

[night pagoda]

It is simply sticker

[wintry solar]

oh yes

I have just worked through the code to that

[tepid sky]

anyways, anyone able to help me? i am trying to make a deck with absolutely no modifications but it just doesn't like it?

oh i did it?

i removed the:
g.playing_cards[i]:set_edition{{
base = true
}, true, true}

that seemed to have done it-

[primal robin]

Why "kings" not capitalized?

[tepid sky]

it just isn't in the text

but to refer to the actual card in the code it is capitalized, otherwise it wouldn't work

[frosty dock]

pretty sure you don't even need to have an apply function if it's not meant to have any effect

[static juniper]

I have this condition, which is supposed to check for Steel cards in hand if the played hand contains a Full House.
if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.hand and context.other_card.config.center == G.P_CENTERS.m_steel and next(context.poker_hands['Full House'])
The problem is that it, for some reason, crashes the game after the hand is scored, and I don't know how to prevent it.

[zealous glen]

context.poker_hands doesn’t exist

Make sure to only execute the code if it exists

[static juniper]

What do you mean?

[zealous glen]

Not all contexts exist all of the time

[static juniper]

Oh right

(I thought you meant in general)

So, is there a way to check if it exists first?

[zealous glen]

Do the same thing you’re doing at the start

Though make sure that context is even called alongside the others you’re requiring

[static juniper]

Got it, added a and context.poker_hands before the other check and it's fixed 👍

[tepid sky]

I'll see if i can get rid of it tmr

[stray orbit]

any way to have a joker add mult and upgrade itself per card scored? as far as i can tell both use return which i imagine skips to the next step of scoring

[shell tangle]

Upgrading itself shouldn't use a return.

Steamodded has an example joker mod in the files, you can look at the Runner in there to see how it upgrades chips, and just do that for mult in context.individual.

[stray orbit]

ooh thank u

[static juniper]

Is there a way to make it so you need a specific type of card for a Joker to show up, like with Lucky Cat, Steel Joker, and Stone Joker?

[lusty epoch]

enchancement_gate = ‘m_bonus’ to the joker config

Or whatever enchancement

[static juniper]

Like this?

config = {enhancement_gate = 'm_wild', extra = {repetitions = 1}},

[lusty epoch]

No like a separate line

Ig that was misleading oops

here is how lucky hoker from cryptid does it

[static juniper]

So like this?

enhancement_gate = 'm_wild',
config = {extra = {repetitions = 1}},```

[lusty epoch]

perfect

[static juniper]

Hooray

[unkempt ridge]

new world just dropped

[tepid sky]

dancing cards 💀

[tepid sky]

ok i have no idea what i am doing, does anybody know how do i add a sprite that is in the foreground?

[tepid sky]

or atleast ontop of the background?

[tepid sky]

let me rephrase, how do i add a pickture that is visable?

that isn't a joker

[lean ledge]

I have a question about the game, more algorithm based than anything

How does the game remember the position you're on with the Random Seed?

Let me explain

The game remembers the seed, that's already one thing. But, it that was what it remembered only, every time you restart the game, it would start the seed from the start of the formula

Meaning, say, if you played a bunch, opened a pack with choices you didn't like, and then reset the game

Since all those Next() commands have been reset as well, the seed will go back as if you're using it from the first time

Giving you different output

And I'm trying to figure out how to make my game remember the position of the random seed as well as the seed itself

[humble tartan]

Anyone have any tricks to quickly previewing UI changes? Launching the game and navigating to the modded UI is such a pain

[nocturne garnet]

how do you get a joker by number?

like if i wanted to get the 5th joker (gluttonous joker) what would i use

[maiden phoenix]

Maybe check how the collection page does it

[hushed cradle]

i think each has an order

so you could iterate over the joker pool checking order

unless the joker pool is already in order

in which case just iterate in order

[nocturne garnet]

nvm

i found it

wait maybe nvm

[zealous glen]

I think each seed in the game (not the seed used for individual runs) saves its state in a specific place, and I imagine when the game is saved it saves the state of each of those seeds. So in theory, if the game saved and you advanced the state of some seed without saving, then went back, you'd have changed your (IRL) state by gaining the knowledge of what the next state of that particular seed was.

[lean ledge]

That's what I thought too, but I need a way to actually do it programmatically. I did find a solution though, I think

[unkempt thicket]

is there a way to check if a card area is visible or if the player is currently in the shop?

[unkempt ridge]

Tired of your poker levels being uneven? No? Well this solves that anyways! :)

[tepid sky]

i weirdly like the idea-

[cedar flame]

i believe you can check if the shop is loaded by just doing if G.shop

[hallow forge]

i made a similar thing but it's a boss blind

[cedar flame]

good choice of moon!

[unkempt ridge]

Thank you :3 We're planning on adding each of the Jovian moons in some way. We've already made [Ganymede](#1270210678635892809 message), so now we need Callisto and Europa

[cedar flame]

ooh very nice!!

[hushed cradle]

calculate = function(self, card, context)
        -- main
        if context.joker_main then
            return {
                message = localize{type='variable',key='a_xmult',vars={card.ability.x_mult}},
                colour = G.C.RED,
                Xmult_mod = card.ability.x_mult,
                repetitions = 0
            }
        end
        -- end of round
        if context.end_of_round and not context.blueprint then
            if card.ability.x_mult - card.ability.extra <= 1 then 
                G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
                    func = function()
                        play_sound('tarot1')
                        card.T.r = -0.2
                        card:juice_up(0.3, 0.4)
                        card.states.drag.is = true
                        card.children.center.pinch.x = true
                        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({trigger = 'after', delay = 0.3, blockable = false,
                            func = function()
                                    G.jokers:remove_card(card)
                                    card:remove()
                                    card = nil
                                return true; end})) 
                        return true
                    end
                })) 
                return {
                    message = 'Smoked!',
                    colour = G.C.RED,
                    repetitions = 0
                }
            else
                card.ability.x_mult = card.ability.x_mult - card.ability.extra
                return {
                    message = localize{type='variable',key='a_xmult_minus',vars={card.ability.extra}},
                    colour = G.C.MULT,
                    repetitions = 0,
                }
            end
        end
    end,```

got this code for a joker that gives x mult and the x mult is supposed to decrease by 0.05 each round

instead tho it decreases by a random amount

is there another check i need?

in the games source, popcorn only uses end_of_round and not blueprint i think

[maiden phoenix]

There are multiple trigger in context.end_of_round

If you want the end of a scoring hand use context.joker_main
The end of a round looks like context.end_of_round and not (context.individual or context.repetition) iirc

[hushed cradle]

thank you

yep that works now

id tried checking context.repetition but it still didnt work

forgot individual was a thing

[maiden phoenix]

Iirc SMOD has a context that's just like that for end of round

Nvm it's for scoring hand

[shell tangle]

Honestly, I do think it would be a good SMODS addition.

[wary crescent]

I am quite happy with how these turned out! I've never really attempted doing art before this. These Jokers are available to play with!

[cedar flame]

i've almost got my mod completely functional but the last thing i'm stuck on is reloading the shop when redeeming a voucher... it doesn't seem like :recalculate() works in the context of the shop, either that or the way i'm adding areas to the shop (conditional returns of {G.UIT.R} objects from functions) is the wrong way to go about it

i'm just patching the function calls directly into the shop layout created in UI_definitions.lua (code here if anyone would be willing to take a look)

[tepid sky]

anyone able to help me with fusions?

[night pagoda]

How can I make so the game reloads when you modify config of the mod?

[wintry solar]

Design your config in a way that doesn’t require a reload 🤔

[night pagoda]

eh

I don't need it for all of the options I have, just for some of them

[languid mirage]

you can add like an apply button

[wintry solar]

Why do you need to restart?

[night pagoda]

to reset/reapply take_ownership, shader file replacements, sprite replacements

[wintry solar]

You could definitely do that without restarting

[opal spade]

is it possible to put a specific color into a localization file

like w/o a keyword just a value

[zealous glen]

I think not because the text processor expects a keyword, but you can add new keywords or hook the processor to accept hex values

The keyword is basically a key to access a color anyways

[frosty dock]

there's color variables though, i.e. you pass the color from loc_vars

[opal spade]

ik about color vars, just working with something where i dont have access to loc_vars

but i got the keyword for what i need to work

[wintry solar]

You can also just register the colours that you want to use

[zealous glen]

Which is what I suggested

[orchid thunder]

im having a problem where after i play a a hand my fps drops but then when i playa hand again or enter the pause menu it goes back up to like 60

anyone have a fix

[languid mirage]

so I wanted to try and make something like this, and apparently it's not that simple 😭 @zealous glen changing scale increases the size, but also offsets the edges further away from the center

I'll let you know if I manage to make it work, so far I'm clueless as to how all this works

[zealous glen]

By the way, how would you implement a visual effect that renders a copy of the card? I think Eremel had made a similar effect, but I was wondering what if the second copy (or copies) followed the movement of the original with a delay, like an afterimage.

I think it could be done either in the shader or outside of it

Though I don’t exactly have a better solution than recording the position and transforms of the card for each frame between now and however many seconds in the past the delay is set to

[languid mirage]

it is possible but you need to store copy of canvas from previous frame

tho I haven't looked into it too much yet

it is pretty hard to do for a specific card

hard in a way that you need to somehow make sure that everything else on the screen still moves and changes

[zealous glen]

Why would that be hard?

Shouldn’t I just need a copy of the card itself in however many frames I need?

[wintry solar]

If you can work out which way the card is moving you could likely do it with a shader drawn before the in dissolve shader with the appropriate offset

[zealous glen]

An idea I just had is that in each call to draw the card, I could create an Event(?) to draw the card again with the same data, but after a few seconds

[solid salmon]

Hello fellow mod developers

[languid mirage]

you can actually just send previous positions to the shader

should probably add that to the api at some point

extra shader values

it's not like you can find out how the player moved the card with a formula, lol

[zealous glen]

I think this is closer to being a better implementation for that effect

[wintry solar]

Without looking at how the event system would interact with the draw loop, I think passing previous position to a shader would be a mch better solution

[zealous glen]

But then you need to store the position for every frame within a time period

[wintry solar]

so would sending an event every frame

[zealous glen]

But it seems easier since you don’t have to build a new list of arbitrary length to track it

Since the Event queue is a preexisting list of arbitrary length

Though I can see some issues with both approaches when the frame rate changes

I wonder how Weaver’s ultimate in DotA 2 works, since it restores his position and statistics to those a couple of seconds prior

[unkempt ridge]

How does this even happen-

[sonic mortar]

let me look at the code

DM it to me

[unkempt ridge]

Like, everything is working correctly but
Somehow it's, affecting, the field???

[sonic mortar]

solved

[unkempt ridge]

don't let us cook ever again bro's
we burned the kitchen

[gilded narwhal]

Isaac Reference

[unkempt ridge]

The gangs all here-

[regal wolf]

all my homies fw IO

[tepid sky]

i have been trying for a while now, and i cannot figure out how to change a vanilla joker into a SMODS joker

anyone able to help?

[wintry solar]

What are you trying to do specifically?

[tepid sky]

i am trying to copy a joker from the base game, into a SMODS joker

so i can more easily change it

for example i would like my joker to figure out if a glass has been shattered and if it did i would like the joker (for example) add a lucky card to my deck

[wintry solar]

Did you take a look at the context guide you were sent yesterday?

[tepid sky]

yes but my mind cannot comprehand what i read-

[wintry solar]

Understanding contexts is the first step to making more than very basic jokers

[tepid sky]

then i think i know what i needa learn :,)

[opal spade]

the guide is a step by step explanation of how each contexts are fired
to add a code to the joker referring to a specific context you define the joker's calculate(self, card, context) and write code like for example if context.joker_main and not context.blueprint then <code> end

^ this specific condition would make an action for the joker during main scoring phase that wouldn't be copyable by blueprint

you can look at the vanilla's Card:calculate_joker(context) to see how it uses the contexts but you should keep in mind that self in Card is card in SMODS.Joker (SMODS.Joker uses self to refer to the object that vanilla would refer to with self.config.center)

also https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/blob/d932c8b70dbe3939265c8a4e79bd5cb668819735/example_mods/Mods/ExampleJokersMod/ModdedVanilla.lua

^ modded vanilla is an example mod that converts a bunch of vanilla jokers into SMODS format, which should be really helpful

[tepid sky]

i know i used it for a phew things already :>

[opal spade]

dont copy paste the magic words, study what they actually do

[hushed cradle]

loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        info_queue[#info_queue+1] = {set = 'Other', key = 's_cere_green_seal'}
    end,```

how do i pass vars into the info queue things?

[wintry solar]

{key = card.ability.extra.balloon.."_seal", set = 'Other', vars = G.P_SEALS[card.ability.extra.balloon]:loc_vars(info_queue, card).vars}

[hushed cradle]

figured it out

[wintry solar]

this is what I do

[hushed cradle]

thank you tho

[maiden phoenix]

Are mod prefix case sensitive? Will j_mymodprefix_joker and j_MyModPrefix_joker both work the same?

[crisp coral]

should be case sensitive

[limpid flint]

in my previous experience testing for your space jokers, it appears that they are all lowercase tho

i mean if the prefix is SDM0 it will be registered as j_sdm0_joker

[hushed cradle]

can we start a petition to up the length of mod prefixes to 5 characters?

[limpid flint]

are they restricted?

[hushed cradle]

every time i type cere_ a part of me dies inside

yeah its max 4 chars

i think

[limpid flint]

but twewy is five

[maiden phoenix]

I've checked the last mod you made a pr of and their prefix is set with caps letter

I'll test it out rq

[limpid flint]

hence the full keys i PRed are exchanged to lowercase by me since this

[wintry solar]

you can set them as whatever you want

it just auto sets it as first four characters if you dont define a prefix

[hushed cradle]

no way 😭

[crisp coral]

rip

[maiden phoenix]

So I did test it out and they wouldn't spawn if the prefix wasn't 1:1 to the mod

We should normalize lowercase prefix smh

[limpid flint]

what does that mean

wasn't 1:1 to the mod
so it need to be exact?

[maiden phoenix]

Yep

(also you forgot a comma)

[limpid flint]

I swear to god

[limpid flint]

good to know tho, i am not sure where did I have the conclusion they should be converted to all lowercase

[maiden phoenix]

It's just the norm, but sometime people don't follow it.

j_MyModPrefix_joker is just ugly in snake_case

[limpid flint]

that is CamelCase right

[maiden phoenix]

No thats PascalCase

camelCase is myModPrefix

So in the example above it would be a mix of snake_case and PascalCase

[limpid flint]

TIL, thanks

[maiden phoenix]

Fun fact btw the case name for css attributes is called kebab-case

[limpid flint]

oh because of dashes instead of under_score

[maiden phoenix]

Yea

[unkempt thicket]

how can i replace an info queue with other DynaText code?

[wintry solar]

what do you mean?

[unkempt thicket]

like instead of the text in there replace it with this

[maiden phoenix]

Does Balatro (or SMOD) saves each cards of the deck at the start of a run? Like if modifications or removal happens it stays the same?

[regal wolf]

Anyone managed to get UI Elements to have the same hover effect as Cards/Blind Chip etc.

It's very doable, but for some reason my method isn't working.

function Blind:draw()
...
    self.tilt_var = self.tilt_var or {}
    self.tilt_var.mx, self.tilt_var.my =G.CONTROLLER.cursor_position.x,G.CONTROLLER.cursor_position.y
...

Blind.lua uses this to create the effect. And both UI elements and Blind chips / Cards etc share Moveable, and Node. Which handle most of the movement etc. So it's very doable with some modifications to the UI element class.

[night pagoda]

Is it possible to create SMODS.ConsumableType without creating an entry in the collection?

[edgy reef]

No J in don’t think so

[opal spade]

collection is created automatically by going through G.P_CENTER_POOLS[Set]

it is possible but in a very janky way

[edgy reef]

Making a new pool technically works but you’ll have to manually inject or hook into get_current_pool for any additional functionality (e.x. default card, rarities, etc).

That’s handled exclusively by SMODS.ConsumableType which would auto-assume you’re making a consumable and try to add it to collections.

[opal spade]

you can also just make sure your item is not in the corresponding G.P_CENTER_POOLS while looking at collection

[edgy reef]

That would still create a button in collections it just wouldn’t display anything.

[opal spade]

it appears ive misunderstood the question

[night pagoda]

I need that because I want to create a type of card/consumable that is needed me in a technical way but it isn't actually a something that should be shown in the collection

[opal spade]

technical way as in?

[night pagoda]

Blinds but in a form of cards

[opal spade]

galdur does something like that for the stakes

[night pagoda]

It wouldn't make sense to have two blind entries - I need just one card object to do it for every blind anyway

[opal spade]

they're not consumable cards and dont even use smods for it though

[night pagoda]

Yeah that's not really the thing I want

[opal spade]

if you want a consumable card that doesnt show up in the collection, you can make a card that ejects itself from the G.P_CENTER_POOLS, but that would mean you can only forced_key it into the game (also idk how smods would react to an empty/nil consumable type if you're making it with a custom type)

[wintry solar]

Would creating a custom card exactly when you need it work?

[languid mirage]

I think myst wanted to add something like that for lobcorp

idk how that went but might be a good place to start looking

[stray orbit]

i'm trying to make an animated joker sprite, do i need to add anything other than atlas_table = 'ANIMATION_ATLAS' and the number of frames to the atlas? i assume i do cuz right now it crashes saying attempt to index field 'atlas' (a nil value)

on steamodded 1.0.0 if it matters

and it only crashes when the joker appears

[languid mirage]

you can look at aura mod

#1249486500811378718

[stray orbit]

ooh thanks

[stray orbit]

i got it working yay

[primal robin]

Why this patch doesn't work???

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "functions/common_events.lua"
pattern = 'function get_pack(_key, _type)'
position = "after"
payload = """
print("Hello?")
"""
match_indent = true

[frosty dock]

steamodded overrides get_pack destructively

[primal robin]

fine

[frosty dock]

there's currently no way to lovely patch these overrides, but there should be soon enough

at least I forwarded it to meth

[languid mirage]

no way*

you have an option of creating this monstrocity
https://github.com/stupxd/Cartomancer/blob/main/core/view-deck-steamodded.lua

[frosty dock]

"No we have lovely patches at home"

My point stands, that isn't a lovely patch, it's a disgusting patch

[nocturne garnet]

is there a way to change text from a joker without using loc_vars

[shell moat]

How would I add a challenge restriction only if a different mod is installed? I'd like to disable one of the spectral cards from Mika's Mod Collection in a challenge I've made, but just putting it in the restrictions normally crashes the game if someone without MMC views the challenge restrictions ingame

This is how I've got my banned cards set up

[lusty epoch]

this is how lobcorp does it for one of their challenges, could help

[shell moat]

That should help a lot, thank you :]

[lusty epoch]

keep in mind though that things in loborp all all in their own files and are formatted differently

so don't do a 1 to 1 of this

[shell moat]

The main issue is, while I have coding experience, none of it is with Lua (I made this challenge by looking at a lot of other mods), so I don't really know how to fix errors - I did this, but it crashes the game when loading mods with something about "chal" being a nil value

Which I assume is something to do with what you said about lobcorp, but I have no idea how to fix it

Actually I might know the issue, give me a sec

Yeah I don't know, I thought I'd put it in the wrong place but moving it caused other problems

[shell moat]

What mod and file is this from? So I can look at the whole thing myself

[lusty epoch]

https://github.com/Mysthaps/LobotomyCorp/blob/main/challenges/netzach.lua

[shell moat]

Ah I see, that's why chal didn't work

Thanks, I'll see if I can figure it out :]

[crisp coral]

either store challenge metadata in a table and modify it before turning it into a gameobject, or store the gameobject as a variable and modify it

[primal robin]

How can I get all ConsumableType in game?

If possible, with localization key

[wooden nexus]

Got something in the cooks

[shell moat]

I bodged it in a much worse way to get it working, don't worry :P

noMMC = {
      ...
}
    
MMC = {
    ...
    {id = 'c_mmc_incense'}
}

And then put the entire challenge into an if/else with the only difference between the if version and the else version being which variable is inserted for the banned cards :P

[opal spade]

there is but why

[nocturne garnet]

thing im doing that requires two types of the same exact joker

specifically because loc_txt is so annoying for this

[opal spade]

I'm a bit confused what you want to do here bcos it's all doable with loc_vars

[opal spade]

make a localization file

[nocturne garnet]

alright i should probably have thought of that

[opal spade]

if you want the same joker to show completely different texts based on context, you can use loc_vars to call a different localization entry

also if it's just "purified" or "cursed" then you can make that (and the associated colour) into a variable

[solid salmon]

If I wanted to make a joker that functions after exiting the shop how can I do it?

[frosty dock]

just look at perkeo for reference

[solid salmon]

Ight

[hushed cradle]

are there any jokers that reset at the end of the ante or smth similar?

wait campfire

[wary crescent]

These look sick, will be adding these when you release them!

[hushed cradle]

-- atlas for stakes

local stake_atlas = SMODS.Atlas{
    key = 'stake_atlas',
    path = 'stakes.png',
    px = 29,
    py = 29,
    atlas_table = 'ASSET_ATLAS',
}

-- stakes

local steel = SMODS.Stake{
    key = "steel",
    pos = {
        x = 0,
        y = 0
    },
    atlas = "stake_atlas",
    applied_stakes = {"gold"},
    loc_txt = {
        name = "Steel Stake",
        text = {
            "{C:red}-1{} hand size",
        }
    },
    modifiers = function()
        -- -1 handsize
    end,
    colour = HEX("71797E")
}```

could anyone tell me where im going wrong?

[opal spade]

local desc_target = copy_table(target.description)

smods expects loc_txt.description

[hushed cradle]

yeah i got it

ty

loc_txt = {
        name = "Steel Stake",
        description = {
            name = "Steel Stake",
            text = {
                "{C:red}-1{} hand size",
            }
        }
    },```

not sure if thats fully right

but it works

[wintry solar]

you won't need the top name one

[hushed cradle]

cool

thanks

[opal spade]

why does smods expect loc_txt.description though

[wintry solar]

remnant of different apis being merged and it got missed in the update to make all loc_txts consistent

[wooden nexus]

It’s #1217704157574860810 so it’ll be a while. I just wanted to share website wip

[hushed cradle]

is there a way to tell more specifically what the current stake is?

atm ive added 4

and theyre 9, 10, 11, 12

at least thats what G.GAME.stake says

but if i had another mod that added stakes

would it shift all my stakes up by the number of stakes in the new mod

[wintry solar]

potentially yes

[frosty dock]

yeah i completely missed that because it's a different format

[hushed cradle]

is it possible to check which number my stake is?

[frosty dock]

<Stake>.order i think

[hushed cradle]

thank you

ill try that

[wintry solar]

what do you need it for out of interest?

[hushed cradle]

well i want my stakes to be shiny

so im gonna patch the get_stake_sprite

[wintry solar]

shiny = true

[hushed cradle]

no way 💀

thank you

[wintry solar]

iirc

[hushed cradle]

yep nice and shiny

do stakes have loc_vars?

[opal spade]

doesnt seem like thats the case

[hushed cradle]

damn

[night pagoda]

man tf am I doing 😭

[opal spade]

tbh despite the recent stake api update, stakes are still wip

stake api is more functional than before though, i was rlly happy cutting a bunch of redundant hooks after the update

[opal spade]

by default each card is sized as default card, so you need to mess with card.T.h and card.T.w

[night pagoda]

nah I'm not talking about the size

it's more about it's placement - it appeared where the booster pack was opened but it didn't move anywhere after that

in theory there's three blinds stacked in the screenshot

wtf

[opal spade]

havent messed with cardareas but i think that means the cardarea is not right

[night pagoda]

oh, I think I know what's up

it's weirdly doesn't seem like an actual card and just a sprite without a card, in an empty card table

I mean yeah??? something definitely changed

I'm glad it alteast shows up

cursed

I will definitely need some kind of a new card type just to handle this

because rn I just use jokers

[hushed cradle]

what are you making, just out of interest?

[night pagoda]

you know that tag that rerolls bosses? I'm reworking that so it'd give these

[hushed cradle]

oo thats cool

[night pagoda]

so it'd be less random and more of "pick your own poison"

[wintry solar]

I thought stakes supported loc vars

[hushed cradle]

i mightve been doing it wrong, but i was doing it exactly how other loc_vars work

[zealous glen]

I wonder if you could just show three Blind selection UIs like the ones you see to select Blinds

[night pagoda]

Yeah I probably'll do that

but I want to see how this works out first

[hushed cradle]

the sticker_pos in stakes, is that only from the same atlas as the chip sprite?

[opal spade]

smods' in-run stake ui doesnt call a loc_vars, neither does G.UIDEF.stake_description(_stake)

[austere schooner]

that sounds like a fun incompatibility looming on the horizon with any joker that adds more items to booster packs

[night pagoda]

and also there's a possibility of a blind object outside of booster packs

and that, yes

[austere schooner]

or cryptid's ://RUN actually, I'm not sure the game would be too happy swapping the blind out mid-blind

[wintry solar]

no, you can add a sticker_atlas

it defaults to the base sticker sheet

[hushed cradle]

thank you

[night pagoda]

that looks real

[wintry solar]

that should probably be addressed then

[crisp coral]

you can't open packs in ://RUN tho

[austere schooner]

thatd fix it

[hushed cradle]

if i have a stake after gold will it auto unlock when you beat gold?, or have i gotta mess about with gold stake to add the unlock?

[wintry solar]

it should do, yes

[hushed cradle]

cool

thanks

[languid mirage]

oh no among us balatro cards

surely thunk was held at gunpoint to add those to the game

[hushed cradle]

how do i get the badge and info for my sticker to show?

[primal robin]

When you'll finish this, contact me. I have an idea for unique interaction with my mod

[night pagoda]

Noted!

[austere schooner]

quick question, what is the default atlas for card backs

i'm running into a ton of nil atlas issues and it's giving me a headache

[crisp coral]

centers

[austere schooner]

ok so atlas = deck[7] or "centers" is causing a different, mysterious crash

it works if deck[7] has anything in it

[crisp coral]

is it appending cry_ into the atlas name

[austere schooner]

wait, original_key:source_deck... this isn't even part of my code, oh god i broke something else

[crisp coral]

😭

[austere schooner]

oh i fixed a typo and that broke source deck

because it's looking for "atlasenchanced"

yeah idunno even if deck[7] ~= nil then obj.atlas = deck[7] else obj.atlas = "centers" end is causing the same nil atlas issue which is weird since that's like pretty explicitly setting the atlas

[wintry solar]

What is deck[7]?

[austere schooner]

part of a table to set the atlas, it's usually either 'atlasenhanced' (defined earlier in the file) or nil

the idea being nil just uses the vanilla card backs...

[hushed cradle]

could you do obj.atlas = G.ASSET_ATLAS[deck[7]] and deck[7] or 'centers'?

[austere schooner]

it works fine if deck[7] is not nil is the thing, it only starts crashing when deck[7] is nil which is what i don't understand

[hushed cradle]

oh

local defective = SMODS.Sticker{
    key = "defective",
    badge_colour = Ceres.C.defective,
    atlas = 'sticker_atlas',
    pos = {
        x = 4,
        y = 0
    },
    loc_txt = {
        name = "Defective",
        text = {
            '{C:green}#1# in 3{} chance',
            'to do nothing',
        }
    },

    apply = function(self, card, val)
        card.ability[self.key] = val
    end,

    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return {vars = {G.GAME.probabilities.normal or 1}}
    end,
}```

this is driving me insane

it was working

and then it stopped

and im not sure what i changed to break it

also im now realising the apply function isnt needed

[austere schooner]

yeah the object atlas IS being set to 'centers' and smod's default fallback atlas is 'centers' so i have no bloody idea why it's crashing with an invalid atlas

[wintry solar]

You might need to call obj:set_sprites() (that might be wrong I don’t remember the correct syntax)

Although without knowing what you’re trying to do I’m not sure

[austere schooner]

programmatically generated enhancement decks

i basically have

--object_key, deck_internal_name, deck_name and deck[i] are provided from a table and are always valid
SMODS.Back { object_type = "Back",
    name = deck_internal_name,
    key = deck[3] .. "_deck",
    config = {cry_force_enhancement = "m_" .. object_key},
    pos = {x = deck[8], y = deck[9]},
    atlas = deck[7] or "centers",
    loc_txt = {
        name = deck_name,
        text = {
            "All {C:attention}playing cards{}",
            "are {C:attention,T:m_" .. object_key .. "}" .. deck[4] .. " Cards{}",
            "Cards cannot change enhancements",
            "{s:0.8,C:inactive}" .. deck[10]
        }
    },
}

[hushed cradle]

['Other'] = {
            ['cere_defective'] = {
                ['name'] = "Defective",
                ['text'] = {
                    '{C:green}#1# in 3{} chance',
                    'to do nothing',
                }
            },```

i have this in my loc file

but this is still blank

what am i missing?

[night pagoda]

there's also ['label'] but it should show the other things at least

[wintry solar]

It’ll be adding the mod prefix to centres

[hushed cradle]

ive got the label too

or should have

[wintry solar]

You need to tell it you’re using a raw atlas key and modify the one in deck[7] to have the prefix already added I think

[crisp coral]

i'm going to guess that doing this makes smods assume that you're using "cry_centers"

[hushed cradle]

oh my god do stickers have a prefix?

[wintry solar]

Sorry I was meaning samario 😂

I don’t know where stickers go on the loc table

But I imagine they’d have a prefix

[hushed cradle]

ive got my mod prefix

dont see anything here about anohter prefix

[wintry solar]

Did you change your prefix to ceres yesterday?

[hushed cradle]

no i just left it

[wintry solar]

Fair

[night pagoda]

Is it possible to create a nothing card?

[crisp elbow]

I wonder with the new customize deck option, will SMODS try to hook into it to make a better ver. of AltTexture API?

I feel like you could genuinely do that now with not a lot of hassle as finally supports "texture packs"

[crisp coral]

ish

[wintry solar]

I’d have to look at how thunk handles it

[crisp coral]

hardcoded to hell and back

[crisp elbow]

tears streaming down my face, okay

[crisp coral]

also need to modify the ui to fit all ranks and not just face cards

[crisp elbow]

good to know

[wintry solar]

But other than stealing the button, probably not

I’m still undecided whether to pull alt textures into an individual mod or not

[plain wyvern]

yeah uh it's a mess

[wintry solar]

I don’t know what would be better, it’d be nice for it to be implemented in smods but I also think just having it as an external dependency for texture packs would suffice

Any one got any thoughts?

[hushed cradle]

not a single thought in my head

ever

[opal spade]

I feel like texture packs are a common enough thing for people to want to do to warrant being in smods (especially now that texture packs are kinda a vanilla feature)

[static juniper]

Just woke up and saw the new update, is there going to have to be another modding patch to fit this update, or can I keep using what I already have?

[mellow sable]

It shouldn’t affect too much

If Cryptid loaded fine on the new update I think everything should be mostly good

[plain wyvern]

it doesn't change much

[hushed cradle]

local defective = SMODS.Sticker{
    key = "defective",
    badge_colour = Ceres.C.defective,
    atlas = 'sticker_atlas',
    pos = {
        x = 4,
        y = 0
    },
    loc_txt = {
        label = 'Defective',
        name = 'Defective',
        text = {
            '{C:green}#1# in 3{} chance',
            'to do nothing',
        }
    },

    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return {vars = {G.GAME.probabilities.normal or 1}}
    end,
}```

even putting the loc text in the thing doesnt work

why 😭

[night pagoda]

cursed 2

I wonder how balatro handles stopping duplicate objects from appearing

[mellow sable]

My favorite enhancement, small blind

[zealous glen]

I think you could extend Center or something

[night pagoda]

I figured I could use the same thing as the poker hand preview uses

[zealous glen]

IIRC it keeps a flag for each object, maybe inside the pool, and sets that flag when the object is created or removed.

However, I think Blinds work differently. I know the game tracks how many times Blinds have been used, but I’m not sure what for. By all accounts, the way I read the code I don’t think it should work, but since it does, I must have misunderstood it

[zealous glen]

Ah I forgot about that

By the way, does the DLC break anything?

[night pagoda]

aside from itself not really for now

[hushed cradle]

i think for jokers and consumables etc it just checks for showman doesnt it?

[zealous glen]

What do you mean “aside from itself”?

I also imagine it could serve for an easy way to make texture only mode via Steamodded in the future

[night pagoda]

the update has stickers always shown and it toggles weirdly

[hushed cradle]

anyone?

[zealous glen]

What are you trying to do?

[hushed cradle]

i just want my sticker to have text when you hover over it

but it doesnt want to

it was working

but i mustve changed smth

[zealous glen]

I could help hardcode it, but I imagine there’s a natural way to do it

[hushed cradle]

but idk what

[zealous glen]

Git?

A text editor that saves changes?

[hushed cradle]

yeah but im not gonna spam ctrl z

[zealous glen]

See if there’s a diff

Or a history

[hushed cradle]

also i havent pushed any of it to git because ive been working on it today

[zealous glen]

Git wouldn’t have a history but the text editor might

Also see if the key names are correct

Two general questions about Lua:

1. How to get a list of folders in a directory in Lua?
2. How to read a text file in Lua?

[regal wolf]

Native fs.

[royal ridge]

you're not going insane

[hushed cradle]

i beg to differ

[languid mirage]

you don't need nativefs

[hushed cradle]

also the sticker isnt actually displaying on jokers

[languid mirage]

just use love.filesystem

[hushed cradle]

is that not smth steamodded does?

[languid mirage]

steamodded uses nativefs

[regal wolf]

💀

[royal ridge]

there was a change in 1.0.1g that altered a line in the code, blocking a steamodded patch

[hushed cradle]

i meant the sticker not displaying

no way

[regal wolf]

There’s a reason people don’t use love.filesystem.

[languid mirage]

nativefs literally uses love.filesystem

[hushed cradle]

me when my file isnt in the game directory

[regal wolf]

What kind of nativefs are you using lol

[hushed cradle]

which line??

[frosty dock]

nativefs replicates lfs, removing the restriction of only being able to access specific folders

[hushed cradle]

theres acc no way

[frosty dock]

generally using love.filesystem is discouraged because it fails as soon as someone uses a custom mod folder

[regal wolf]

^

It’s also much less flexible than nfs.

I believe there is a nativefs patch you can add that overrides love.filesystems restrictions.

But I’ve never used it.

[languid mirage]

how would someone use a custom mod folder

[frosty dock]

lovely has a command line flag for it

Also required for stuff like TS

[languid mirage]

and how would nfs figure out the flag value

[frosty dock]

there's a lovely module that has that information

[languid mirage]

so if it's not in nfs

your point?

[mental nacelle]

Is there an event for obtaining a joker?

[frosty dock]

my point is that love.filesystem physically can't access such a folder

[languid mirage]

ah

[hushed cradle]

you could hook to add to deck and check if its a joker?

[regal wolf]

https://love2d.org/wiki/love.filesystem

This module provides access to files in specific places:
The root folder of the .love archive (or source directory)
The root folder of the game's save directory.
The folder containing the game's .love archive (or source directory), but only if specific conditions are met.

[mental nacelle]

i'm looking to calculate a number based upon the amount of jokers, for a joker that has X0.1 mult for each joker (like Abstract but XMult)

[hushed cradle]

oh you can just do 0.1 * #G.jokers.cards then

[languid mirage]

well, if a mod would need to implement support for custom mod dir either way, there's no point in using nfs if there's a total of 0 people with custom mod dir and 1? mods with custom dir support (steamodded I assume has it)
Most mods that use nfs literally crumble if mod folder isn't the exact same name, so it's kinda funny

[royal ridge]

ok i fixed sticker.toml on my end

[hushed cradle]

please send me the patches 🙏

nvm 💀

[royal ridge]

wh

[hushed cradle]

god i hate myself

still doesnt show up here tho

is that also to do with a broken patch?

[royal ridge]

yeah

[hushed cradle]

damn

[royal ridge]

not sure how the collection started working for you lmao

[hushed cradle]

i fixed one of the patches

wtf is this

[royal ridge]

crossover stuff i assume

[hushed cradle]

so how do i get it to work here?

[royal ridge]

not sure?

fixing the patch made it work in both collection and run for me

[hushed cradle]

i clearly didnt fix it properly then

could you send me yours?

[frosty dock]

there's usually no need to support it specifically outside of steamodded as you're given the mod dir either way

most non-smods mods include NFS themselves

[royal ridge]

# generate_UIBox_ability_table()
[[patches]]
[patches.regex]
target = "card.lua"
pattern = '''if self.sticker or \(\(self.sticker_run and self.sticker_run~='NONE'\) and G.SETTINGS.run_stake_stickers\)  then loc_vars = loc_vars or \{\}\; loc_vars.sticker=\(self.sticker or self.sticker_run\) end'''
position = "before"
payload = '''
for k, v in ipairs(SMODS.Sticker.obj_buffer) do
    if self.ability[v] and not SMODS.Stickers[v].hide_badge then
        badges[#badges+1] = v
    end
end'''

not pull reqing this because the regex sucks but it should work?

[hushed cradle]

uh still not working for me

[royal ridge]

uhhhhh

yeah idk then

[hushed cradle]

nws

thank you

[languid mirage]

yes, but my point is, you don't have to use NFS, unless the wild user with custom mod dir who doesn't want to use steamodded appears
so far most mod devs don't even care to support non exact folder name for non steamodded mods

It's kinda funny
I wonder how many mods need to copy-paste steamodded code for non steamodded support for a non steamodded modloader to appear

[regal wolf]

I meannnn, unless it’s a very simple mod, nfs is usually needed. There can also be many reasons why people don’t want to use steamodded.

It’s not hard at all to make something to support mod folders that aren’t exactly the same name as the devs. It took me about 5 minutes lol.

[languid mirage]

I think you missed my point with steamodded

Never said it's hard or anything, but it's the same code in every single mod who wants to support non steamodded

[night pagoda]

something finally fucking works?????

[regal wolf]

I mean, I’m sure a few people stole/copied code, but I don’t think most devs have done that.

[languid mirage]

You're still missing my point

[regal wolf]

I’m not sure I am, I just think your point isn’t a great one lol

[languid mirage]

its not about stealing, its about everyone reinventing the wheel for something they shouldn't have to

[regal wolf]

I understand what ur saying “what’s the point putting the same code as steamodded when they don’t use steamodded, why not just use steamodded etc etc”

[languid mirage]

nope lmao

[regal wolf]

I mean that’s exactly what ur saying

[plain wyvern]

is there a way to add a resource file through a lovely patch file? (i have steamodded installed)

[regal wolf]

“Reinventing the wheel”

[languid mirage]

I never said anything against non steamodded

[mellow sable]

eg. Ankh uses some Steamodded code (I yoinked file indexing) so it can detect mods loaded even without Steamodded active

[regal wolf]

?

[mellow sable]

Actually I said that weirdly

Basically it uses that to detect Steamodded mods, but it doesn’t just hook the Steamodded function because it also shouldn’t require it by design

[regal wolf]

Yeah exactly

[mellow sable]

Also I have to deal with Balamod support now

[regal wolf]

Oh dear

[languid mirage]

like, convenience of loading atlas, having config file, localization, and some other features like keybinds is very nice

[regal wolf]

I haven’t even looked into Balamod.

[languid mirage]

also fucking settings menu lmao

[regal wolf]

Who said otherwise??

I don’t really understand ur whole argument

[mellow sable]

I have my own setting menu API for my mods xdd

[regal wolf]

Yeah,,,

[mellow sable]

But most of them really could use Steamodded

Like if I moved Trance to Steamodded nobody would really care

[regal wolf]

Yes but also, some people don’t want to install stwamodded

[mellow sable]

And I think Talisman depends on Steamodded now too? At least, haven’t tested in a while without it and it adds some stuff with Steamodded

[regal wolf]

I’m of the opinion that, let people do what they want lol

I’m only ever going to make steamodded a dependency for something where it absolutely makes sense to do so.

Like custom content; etc

[mellow sable]

I think both arguments are fair

[regal wolf]

Of course, I respect the argument otherwise.

I would just say though, let people experiment!

[frosty dock]

i get people might not want to use steamodded because it's rather invasive in what it does

of course not all mods need this sort of invasiveness, mostly these are QoL mods or ones that are equally invasive themselves

[languid mirage]

That's sad

[regal wolf]

?

[languid mirage]

I will say it directly: I wonder how long it takes until QoL mods create a non invasive mod loader with just qol steamodded features (Atlas, localization, config, centralised settings menu, keybinds)
Because what we have right now is straight up ass, lol

[regal wolf]

huh?

Wait I thought you were on the side of everyone using steamodded.

[languid mirage]

bruh literally said

I never said that

[languid mirage]

m

[regal wolf]

Oh I didn't see that message for some reason, my reception was really bad.

Ok I get ur point.

[frosty dock]

I mean I'm not fully opposed to splitting steamodded into a loader and a modding API, it's just that it would be harder to maintain which would in the end be a me problem

[regal wolf]

I feel like splitting it would be a lot of work, haha.

I'd love for there to be a straight up "Mod client".

[languid mirage]

I think qol mod loader doesn't really need that much updating though

[frosty dock]

surely there's some way to make something of that sort but with an integrated setting, though at that point it becomes a case of managing lovely patches in a way that's not possible currently

[languid mirage]

steamodded mostly gets updated with modding api

[frosty dock]

alternatively a reorganized version could have steamodded loading most of itself as a steamodded mod which can itself be disabled. again, get me to do that

[languid mirage]

would patches and other stuff work if it's something like a nested folder

[frosty dock]

no

[languid mirage]

ah so it would need to be 2 folders

[frosty dock]

patches must be exactly one directory deep into the mods folder (Mods/MyMod/lovely.toml or Mods/MyMod/lovely/*.toml)

[languid mirage]

I'm thinking that could be annoying to explain if it remains in the same repo

cuz people download zip

[regal wolf]

Yeah exactly.

[languid mirage]

and then they don't understand that it needs to be not nested

nested mod folders support when?

lovely v20.0.1?

there could be a config file which would tell lovely which folder is a mod root

I dunno

[tepid sky]

i have been trying to get this joker to have random hands everytime you leave the shop but i cannot for the life of me figure out what i am doing wrong

[languid mirage]

you need to also change G.hand size after changing the config value

you only change it on add to deck and remove from deck which only happen when sold/destroyed/debuffed

[tepid sky]

oooh okay

any tip on how i could change it?

[nocturne garnet]

i've seen cryptid's misprintize function dozens of times but i still dont get how they change every value of a joker

how do i get the named values or whatever??

like if someone had a card.ability.extra.NameThatIDoNotKnow, how would i get that value without knowing it

[wintry solar]

Loop through pairs(card.ability.extra)

[nocturne garnet]

tried

still cant get it

i am doing something wrong and i DONT KNOW WHAT!!!

[languid mirage]

remove hand size
randomize hand size
add hand size

[tepid sky]

thanks

[austere schooner]

wait you can do that?

[zealous glen]

So I can get a list of folders and files and read a .txt from it?

[regal wolf]

Yes

Wait no not love.filesystem

nativefs.

I'll send you nativefs if you want?

[zealous glen]

Does Balatro or Steamodded come with it?

[regal wolf]

Steamodded does yes.

[zealous glen]

Because I want to use it for a mod

My idea is to make a mod that simplifies making texture pack mods

Oh, do you know if it can get the size of an image?

[shell tangle]

Eremel is looking into finishing his WIP AltTextures, could maybe look into helping/using that.

[zealous glen]

@wintry solar oh?

[austere schooner]

How Do, i can't find anything with some ctrl+fing in steamodded

[wintry solar]

Did you never see it before?

[zealous glen]

No I haven’t seen you talk about AltTextures

[wintry solar]

#1254950397701914704 message

I had a working version and then dropped it to move on to different projects

[zealous glen]

Do you have to manually add the Texture Packs?

[tepid sky]

it uuh works?

my friend like it when it went tru 10 sizes per card 💀

[zealous glen]

You probably need to also make it change when added/removed from the deck

[wintry solar]

You just register them as an object

But I’m going to start on it from the ground up again

I have some structural changes I want to make

[zealous glen]

My idea was to do it automatically, so that people with no knowledge of programming could do it

So it would only need folders with the images and a configuration .txt file

With three possible configurations:

• Full spritesheet swap;
• Individual sprite swaps, listed by object name;
• Individual sprite swaps with a spritesheet, so that each sprite in row-major order is assigned to each object in a list.

[austere schooner]

Okay so. Setting it to nil? crashes the game
Not setting it at all? works perfectly fine

I??????? Sure???

[nocturne garnet]

NEVER MIND, I ALWAYS ASSUMED THE FIRST PART OF "for X,Y in pairs(Z)" WAS LIKE A REGULAR FOR LOOP

I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST THE NUMBER OF TIMES ITS LOOPED

[shell tangle]

That's why you'll often see k, v, for key, value.

[nocturne garnet]

I NEVER KNEW THIS

THATS WHY I ALWAYS USE FOR I,V

cant believe for all this time i didnt know

why does cryptids code seem so complex

[zealous glen]

@wintry solar what do you think? This way the mod can:

• Iterate over subfolders;
• Iterate over configuration files;
  • Take ownership of the listed object and replace the texture.

[nocturne garnet]

all it took me was this man

[zealous glen]

You should do card.ability.extra[i] = v*mult

[shell tangle]

Ideally, it overwrites the full atlas on a full sprite retexture, but I personally think this would be a good tool to use, using AltTextures API once that's finished, rather than being a mod that does everything on it's own.

[nocturne garnet]

eh

[zealous glen]

As I said, my idea was to have three types of configurations

Including full spritesheet replacement

[zealous glen]

You don’t need to access the same memory address three times

[wintry solar]

That sounds like a way more complicated set up for someone who has no experience modding

[zealous glen]

I think writing a .txt is easier than having to manually write Lua to register objects

[austere schooner]

is there any way to tell if a colour actually exists before trying to render with it and presumably throwing an error

[zealous glen]

What do you mean?

[austere schooner]

like, the {C:red}

[wintry solar]

You’d just copy a template and change two words though

[austere schooner]

is there a giant table full of the colours

[zealous glen]

Yes, they are defined in the code

[zealous glen]

Which I think is harder than writing the name of a file or a list of Jokers

[nocturne garnet]

wait

[shell tangle]

Search for loc_colour, don't remember the specific file.

[wintry solar]

But you’d have to have some sort of knowledge of the correct format anyway which would suggest reading some sort of documentation

[red flower]

it's in globals.lua

[austere schooner]

ah, G.ARGS.LOC_COLOURS

The Coloures...

[zealous glen]

Two actually. You want the table that maps names to colours, but there’s also a table of colours. Three tables if you count dynamically changing colours

[zealous glen]

I mean, each of the three types of configurations could have their own template to copy from, which I think would be easier than Lua because there’s less information on the file

And most of the information in the file is accessible by playing the game

Only the file names aren’t

[wintry solar]

I remain to be convinced

If you could mock up a quick example of what a config might look like that would help

I’ll go dig out an old version that I have

[languid mirage]

actually G.C.<color>

[zealous glen]

full-spritesheet
vanilla.png 
custom.png```

partial-spritesheet
custom.png

Joker
Lusty Joker
Egg```

individual

Joker
customjoker.png

Egg
customegg.png```

Wait hold on

It ate the first line

[languid mirage]

oh I guess loc colors is also a thing, didn't know that

[wintry solar]

Loc colours is for loc txt colouring

[zealous glen]

Fixed

They’re not mutually consistent but that can be improved

[wintry solar]

It’s going to need more information than that though

[zealous glen]

Like what?

[wintry solar]

Dimensions for one

[zealous glen]

Which I already asked about

Can’t Lua read it?

If it can’t that can be an argument too

[wintry solar]

I dunno, it could be useful I guess but it seems like making a new system to make mods just for the sake of it

[zealous glen]

I asked a server of Balatro fanartists and I’m waiting for their response. So far I have:

“I feel like .txt files are very intuitive”

[shell tangle]

I think it'd be good as a basic, non-modding tool, but if you want to do anything actually complex, like non-standard sizes, then you just use the API instead of the easy mod tool.

[zealous glen]

I mean yeah

This is for texture replacements

Nothing else

[wintry solar]

SMODS.Atlas({
    key = "hd_tags",
    path = "hd_tags.png",
    px = 34,
    py = 34,
})
SMODS.AltTexture({
    key = "hd_tags",
    texture = true,
    atlas_key = "alttex_hd_tags",
    type = "Tag",
    name = "HD Tags",
})
``` this is the previous iteration

[zealous glen]

Actually it does probably need to ask for size because textures could use custom resolutions

Balatro HD

[shell tangle]

Just grab the sizes from vanilla game, and if they want to change it, then use AltTextures API.

[zealous glen]

As Eremel pointed it, it does need to know the dimensions of the file to function properly, and I think alternative resolutions are simple enough they should be supported

[cedar flame]

oh this is the first i've heard of alttextures, is it properly in smods now?

[wintry solar]

no

[cedar flame]

rip 😔

just wanted to be sure

[zealous glen]

Ah so you can only do full Atli swaps?

[wintry solar]

at the moment, yes

but I had planned to allow individual control

though individual control requires editing the individual objects and is more work

I also wanted to implement localization support

but having a pipeline of features is what was leading me to prefer packaging it as an individual mod like I did with Galdur, it gives me a lot more control to update it when I need to

[zealous glen]

Which is why I want to automatize as much as possible

The user should only need to provide the data and the mod automatizes the rest

[shell tangle]

I think it'd be good to do this while working on it, and once it's fleshed out, then integrate it into SMODS.

[shell tangle]

Localization would be a neat feature as well, by the way, but, yeah, further down on the priority list, I'd say.

[wintry solar]

I'm still not sure about supporting single textures, it just opens a huge can of worms from a logistical point of view of which texture is applied and how you switch between them

[fading blaze]

Huh. Apparently I've been using Lovely to do all my modding. Steamodded doesn't seem to want to work on my end... this might explain why all my SMODS functions within said mods have been doing absolutely nothing...

[shell tangle]

Maybe allow for a texture pack to set a table of keys, so you can have all of whatever under one pack?

[zealous glen]

But some mods only want to change a single or a small number of textures

[fading blaze]

Oh! Apparently I'm missing dependencies.

[zealous glen]

Like Legendere which only changes the Legendary Jokers

[fading blaze]

I'm using an outdated version of Steamodded.

[zealous glen]

I think not supporting that kind of retexture is a bit of a failure

[zealous glen]

I think it could work like Minecraft

[wintry solar]

I mean you can package it as the entire spritesheet with the alternate textures in the relevant places

[zealous glen]

Have an ordered list, higher takes priority

[zealous glen]

It both seems excessive and frankly a bit dubious to send a mostly unchanged Balatro spritesheet around

And it makes it difficult to use two different texture packs that change sets of Jokers without overlap

If one changes Food Jokers and the other Legendary Jokers, wouldn’t it be easier to tell if the code individually registered each

Again, I think they can be packaged in a row-major spritesheet, smaller than the game’s spritesheet

So you put the five Legendary Jokers into a single spritesheet that’s 5-by-2 Jokers in size

[shell tangle]

How do you specify the pos for each one?

[zealous glen]

As I said

Row-major in order

[shell tangle]

So, just have it as key index = pos x?

[zealous glen]

It’s a bit tricky for Souls; there needs to be a standard

[zealous glen]

What’s “key index”?

[shell tangle]

In a list of {'a', 'b', 'c'}, c = 3.

[zealous glen]

Then you write

partial-spritesheet
custom.png

Perkeo
Yorick
the blue one
the white one
the bad one

and it expects to find them in that order

[zealous glen]

Yes, but it’s more like { x = i mod row, y = dividend } if I’m not getting the dimensions swapped in my mind

where i is the index in the input list

[shell tangle]

I think priority should be, get full sprite replacements working, test it out, make sure there's no bugs, then come back and add in individual texture support.

[zealous glen]

Wait I got the names wrong

i mod row is the remainder lol

it should be… dividend

That’s why I was confused. Now I hope it’s correct

[zealous glen]

Maybe individual texture swaps can be melded into partial sprite sheets, since an individual texture is a partial sprite sheet of size 1-by-1 object

[shell tangle]

For now, if you want to do it, I think it should be separate from AltTextures, and most of the code would be finding a way to read the .txt file, and converting it into just a take_ownership call for any objects, and a atlas replacement for any textures that aren't objects, like the balatro title screen or shop sign.

[zealous glen]

I reckon this might make more sense for animated textures anyways since those have to be spritesheets

[fading blaze]

Welp, just ended up figuring out that the latest version of Steamodded does not play nice with the Mac version of Balatro.

Went through the trouble to try and clone the latest Steamodded git, only for it to backfire.

Oh wait--

I figured it out.

I think.

[static juniper]

I'm trying to make a card that does something when money is gained. What's the best way to check how much money is gained from each source of money?

[fading blaze]

Nope. Still not liking it.

[wintry solar]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how you would select textures if they were all individual like that

[shell tangle]

Priority list, I think it's that all the individual images would still be considered as one singular pack.

[zealous glen]

I mean, from the user’s standpoint, either a subset or the entire texture pack would be put on a list, and the higher priority would apply. If a higher priority texture doesn’t change an object, a lower priority texture can change it

[fading blaze]

Oh wait-- the lovely injector might be out of date???

[shell tangle]

Basically, if you have cards a, b, c, d and pack 1 overwrites a, b, pack 2 overwrites a, c, then,
Priority for pack 1 takes over pack 2, so a and b use pack 1's sprites, c uses pack 2's, and d uses base game.

And obviously, if pack 2 has priority, then a changes to pack 2's sprite, but b still uses pack 1's.

[wintry solar]

I mean from a ui standpoint, how are you setting the priority of texture packs in the game

[shell tangle]

Probably just an up and down list, or left to right - you could make it take after jokers, and how the order matters for them.

[fading blaze]

OKAY GOT IT WORKING.

[shell tangle]

I could picture a card area above an area of all texture packs loaded with pages as needed, with base game being unremovable - basically, it'd have the texture pack icon in the bottom table, which you could click to spawn in the card area at the top, and use that to switch around priority, moving texture pack icons around just like jokers.

If you wanted to disable texture packs, then you'd do something similar to selling jokers - but I will say, as fun as that does seem, it could be far more effort than it's worth to do.

[zealous glen]

Like Minecraft does it

This isn’t an unsolved UI problem

[primal robin]

Is custom sticker can be applied on booster pack only?

[zealous glen]

Although I do like the idea of making use of Balatro mechanics and making it kinda like a CardArea

[shell tangle]

I think having text saying Overwrites or Priority some other word under the left side, and then an arrow pointing towards the right under the card area would probably make it pretty intuitive for most players.

[zealous glen]

I think you can just say it takes priority left to right

[shell tangle]

Yeah, I'm just thinking from a fancy UI perspective.

[crisp elbow]

Is there any proper API documentation yet for Suits? I've mostly been taking a look at the Six Suits mod for reference and was curious on it

[hushed cradle]

local suit_atlas = SMODS.Atlas{
    key = 'suits',
    path = 'suits.png',
    px = 71,
    py = 95,
    atlas_table = 'ASSET_ATLAS',
}

local ui_atlas = SMODS.Atlas{
    key = 'ui_icons',
    path = 'ui_icons.png',
    px = 18,
    py = 18,
    atlas_table = 'ASSET_ATLAS',
}

local leaves = Ceres.SETTINGS.suits.enabled and Ceres.SETTINGS.suits.leaves.enabled and SMODS.Suit {
    key = 'Leaves',
    card_key = 'LEAVES',
    hc_atlas = 'suits',
    lc_atlas = 'suits',
    hc_ui_atlas = 'ui_icons',
    lc_ui_atlas = 'ui_icons',
    pos = {
        y = 0
    },
    ui_pos = {
        x = 0,
        y = 0,
    },
    hc_colour = HEX('419947'),
    lc_colour = HEX('419947'),
}```

[crisp elbow]

ty

[hushed cradle]

nws

i think that demostrates most of the stuff

[wintry solar]

Right, I think I'll port over full sprite sheet stuff first, set up a modding forum and we can carry it on over there

[shell tangle]

Sounds good to me. I can either make a terrible example image or try doing some UI code to just do the basic shape of what I'm imagining, but I haven't interacted with CardArea enough to know how I'd make that function. I don't imagine it'd be too different from how Galdur's chips work, just that they'd be moveable afterwards and then that order would be read, probably on pressing an apply button, to figure out priority to load things in.

[wintry solar]

yeah I can picture what you mean

[nocturne garnet]

why wont this work 😭

[cedar flame]

does anyone know how to change the sort order of the default suits? i thought i was onto something with the view_deck function but it looks like SMODS overrides it...

[shell tangle]

Something something, CardArea:sort?

[cedar flame]

oh, lemme take a look at that

thanks!

[shell tangle]

Just a few random searches, might lead you in the right direction, but no idea for sure, haven't touched it myself.

[cedar flame]

i think this leads me to the same place i was looking, which is get_nominal

lemme get the code i have one sec

[shell tangle]

What happens if you overwrite local suit_map and rank_name_mapping in G.UIDEF.deck_preview?

I think it'll probably be hardcoded in several places throughout the code, though, that'd just change the sort function.

[cedar flame]

i didn't touch rank_name_mapping since i wasn't messing with the ranks, but i did try the other one with no changes... i think it's because SMODS overrides the deck_preview method as well

in core/overrides.lua

the other thing i was looking at was core/game_object.lua where it defines the Suit object

it sets max_nominal and suit_nominal

[shell tangle]

Are you just trying to make diamonds come before spades or something, or?

[cedar flame]

i'm trying to make the suits go clubs -> spades -> hearts -> diamonds

(the reason why being i'm messing with https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1236035627288367115)

the cards have numbers that ascend in that order, plus 4 more suits

[frosty dock]

yeah the base game functions for this are absolute dogshit for extensibility

I've tried with lovely patches, it ended up being more lines than the actual function in full

[cedar flame]

oh god

i mean, i'll do it if necessary but rip

[wintry solar]

just overwrite the overwrite taps head

[frosty dock]

hopefully patching loaded files like from steamodded is possible soon with lovely

(rn it's possible without lovely but super cursed

[cedar flame]

do you happen to have the code you wrote somewhere?

[frosty dock]

the deck view override or patching steamodded files?

[cedar flame]

the deck view override

if it ends up being too too painful i'll look into what would need to change in steamodded i guess

[frosty dock]

uh yeah it's at line log10(naneinf) in core/overrides.lua

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/blob/main/core/overrides.lua#L308

[cedar flame]

the important bit here being the table.sort call right?

which uses get_nominal

[crisp elbow]

getting this rn... here's the code snippet I have as well and I can confirm the textures are loaded.

--SMODS.Atlas {key = 'digits', path = 'digits.png', px = 71, py = 95}
--SMODS.Atlas {key = 'digits_hc', path = 'digits_hc.png', px = 71, py = 95}
--SMODS.Atlas {key = 'arms', path = 'arms.png', px = 71, py = 95}
--SMODS.Atlas {key = 'arms_hc', path = 'arms_hc.png', px = 71, py = 95}
--SMODS.Atlas {key = 'bottles', path = 'bottles.png', px = 71, py = 95}
--SMODS.Atlas {key = 'bottles_hc', path = 'bottles_hc.png', px = 71, py = 95}
SMODS.Atlas {key = 'webs', path = 'webs.png', px = 71, py = 95, atlas_table = 'ASSET_ATLAS'}
SMODS.Atlas {key = 'suitsui', path = 'suitsui.png', px = 18, py = 18, atlas_table = 'ASSET_ATLAS'}
--SMODS.Atlas {key = 'webs_hc', path = 'webs_hc.png', px = 71, py = 95}



--Actual suit code
local websuit = SMODS.Suit {
    key = 'Webs',
    card_key = 'WEBS',
    hc_atlas = 'webs',
    lc_atlas = 'webs',
    hc_ui_atlas = 'suitsui',
    lc_ui_atlas = 'suitsui',
    pos = {
        y = 0
    },
    ui_pos = {
        y = 0,
        x = 0,
    },
    hc_colour = HEX('47d7cc'),
    hc_colour = HEX('47d7cc')
}```

sorry for ping

also happens on the suit as well

[wintry solar]

aure can I create smods objects inside an inject function? will it mess anything up?

[languid mirage]

recursion potential?

[wintry solar]

it's a different object it creates

[languid mirage]

might be fine then

[cedar flame]

that method seems to call back to self.base.suit_nominal which if i'm understanding correctly is set from max_nominal.value in the SMODS.Suit constructor. in theory i should be able to change the sort order with the code i've added to override that value but it doesn't work:

SMODS.Suit:take_ownership('Clubs', {
    max_nominal = { value = 0.00 }
})
SMODS.Suit:take_ownership('Spades', {
    max_nominal = { value = 0.01 }
})
SMODS.Suit:take_ownership('Hearts', {
    max_nominal = { value = 0.02 }
})
SMODS.Suit:take_ownership('Diamonds', {
    max_nominal = { value = 0.03 }
})

[frosty dock]

idk exactly how lua likes messing with an iterated table while within a loop, but I think it would be fine

[frosty dock]

max_nominal.value is a static property used only to determine the suit nominal for new objects

[cedar flame]

oh

[frosty dock]

you'd want to change suit_nominal instead