💻・modding-dev

[tidal edge]

oh thats why i have two of them

[tepid crow]

if you want to prevent this issue in the future, nuke all other python installations except the one you want to keep
if you just want to bypass it right now, use py -m pip install pillow and wait for it to finish

[lament fjord]

(does pip have some kind of verbose flag?)

[tepid crow]

-v I believe

[frosty dock]

this worked, tysm

[lament fjord]

NFS apparently allows you to read to filedata directly without having to use a string in between

[frosty dock]

yeah that's what i did

[lament fjord]

Mhm

[frosty dock]

NFS.read('data', self.full_path)

I think with that, the sound PR is exactly where I want it

gonna merge it I think

[tidal edge]

i uninstalled all of it and reinstalled the one i wanted and now its doing this

it wont let me use py as a command anymore

[languid mirage]

add py to path

the other installation

find where the python.exe is, and follow this
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4822400/register-an-exe-so-you-can-run-it-from-any-command-line-in-windows

[tepid crow]

could also restart the installer and check the checkbox that says "add py to path" iirc

[tidal edge]

ayyy i got it to work

the resizer

[tepid crow]

@mellow sable (or anyone else if they know the answer)
some booster packs in my mod get too many options to pick from and then you can't select some of the options
I recall cryptid having a fix for this, but I can't find it in the code anymore lol

edit: can be fixed by modifying G.GAME.pack_size before the UI function for the pack is called

[tidal edge]

yooo my completed planets

look better than i thought ngl

[tepid crow]

oh nice, you did their card indication on the bottom too
were you planning to do the planet indication on the top as well?

[tidal edge]

nah

oh i mea

i guess i could put them for what planet's moons it its

back to work

[tepid crow]

I mean earth already has the moon there

[tidal edge]

also io's card indicator has been fixed

from akqj10 to aaaa2 as intended

[tepid crow]

also there's a random white pixel in the moon's planet indication

top left

[tidal edge]

and perfect

fully finished

[wintry solar]

How do they look in game?

[tidal edge]

ill check

hopefully they look good

ohhh shit

when i hover over one

it crashes due to nil value

and the graphics are all shit

[unkempt thicket]

this is not applying anything to the joker when used, does anyone know why? Club augmentation is supposed to apply snow_a_club to the selected joker when used but instead does nothing.

[tidal edge]

i made the px and py sizes the size of one of them

i dont understand

this is the image

[wintry solar]

It doesn’t have a use function

[tidal edge]

i set it to 63 x 93 for the thing

[wintry solar]

Set it to 71 x 95

[unkempt thicket]

but this consumable seems to work fine when i use it?

[mellow sable]

Fix is in Misprint.toml I believe

[tepid crow]

alright I'll take a look

[tidal edge]

what about the nil value error though

its a problem if i cant hover over the planets

[wintry solar]

That also shouldn’t work

[tidal edge]

or else they crash

[wintry solar]

Have you set the loc_txt and loc_vars?

[wintry solar]

Oh wait this has mod_conv

[tidal edge]

what

[wintry solar]

I don’t think mod_conv will work on jokers, that’s a base game function

[tidal edge]

this is the code i pasted

for every planet

just changing names and hands

and x pos and ypos

[coarse widget]

trying to do something really basic, just want to write a mod that changes the names of some jokers. is there an example mod that does this somewhere that i could model mine after?

[tidal edge]

idk why hovering over one of these would giv a nil value error

[frosty dock]

can you send the actual crash?

nil value error can be many things

[tidal edge]

k

this happens when hovering over every planet BUT moon and the vanilla planets

[wintry solar]

Do the other planet definitions look the same as moon?

[tidal edge]

yep

i copied moon

changed names

hands

and x pos y pos

they should be basically the same

[frosty dock]

can we still see one of the others?

clearly something's different

[tidal edge]

moon compared to one of the others

[frosty dock]

ugh

I've seen that crash and I don't remember why

[tidal edge]

maybe you arent allowed to use spaces in planet hand level ups

run has no spaces and gives no error

but the other hands all do

[frosty dock]

that makes no sense, but I'm not sure my dump matches yours

can you send this file: Mods/lovely/dump/functions/common_events.lua

[tidal edge]

i myself am stumped on what the issue could be

i just dont get it, the planets are literally exactly the same code; what was fucked up

[tidal edge]

hey have you found anything since?

[frosty dock]

sorry I was answering someone else

I'll have a look

[tepid crow]

Yup, found it. It was G.GAME.pack_size, fixed by your _size*G.CARD_W replacements. Thanks! :)

[mellow sable]

yw

[tidal edge]

hey have you looked yet

[frosty dock]

I'm not sure what exactly is causing this, you got me the code for the hand types again?

[tidal edge]

this contains all code

[frosty dock]

huh you're not even using the get_run function outside of run house?

[tidal edge]

nope

[frosty dock]

Enceladus also doesn't work?

[tidal edge]

yes

all other planets

except moon

and crash with a nil value when hovered

[frosty dock]

Enceladus should work from what I can tell

for titan and io, you capitalized the of in Run of Three / Run of Four

[tidal edge]

well lemme check if it does

[frosty dock]

which you did not do in the key, so these are different strings

[tidal edge]

oh lmfao

thats really stupid

ill check if it works now

yay it works

i finally have something sharable

[tidal edge]

thank you so much for helping me make this mod

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1267206668996050989 i finally uploaded it

and i credited you

[frosty dock]

np

just a small thing, don't upload the zip file to github

upload the files directly

[hushed cradle]

does anyone know what this is?

like in game

[unkempt thicket]

anaglyph deck?

[hushed cradle]

any way i can draw that somewhere on screen?

[wooden nexus]

Isn’t that anaglyph deck or am i stupid

[hushed cradle]

i mean

lol

[frosty dock]

the view deck overlay or what?

[hushed cradle]

like the stack of cards

[frosty dock]

oh

[hushed cradle]

sorry i wasnt descriptive enough lol

[wintry solar]

It’s just a load of cards

[frosty dock]

that's just a card area

[wintry solar]

In a card area

[hushed cradle]

oh sick

[wintry solar]

Like it’s literally your deck

[hushed cradle]

so if i

had a card area with a limit of 52

i could draw my own

[wintry solar]

Yeah

[hushed cradle]

cool

thank you

i feel kinda dumb now lol

ofc its a card area

its a deck

this just doesnt look as good

is the ambient tilt or whatever it is how i get it to be straight?

and not wobble

[wintry solar]

Uhhh let me check what I have

It’s to do with the type you set it as iirc

[hushed cradle]

ah okay

ty

[wintry solar]

#💻・modding-dev message

Oh right yeah

I have a card area for each deck

[hushed cradle]

cool

just gonna have to make it another function rather than reusing the ones for other card types then ig

thank you

[wintry solar]

I don’t think the tilt looks bad though

[frosty dock]

wtf i forgot to respond, yes it does

[wintry solar]

Should still be able to straighten it up though

[hushed cradle]

ill have to see how it looks w more cards in it

uh

maybe i dont need 52 cards for each

need to figure out how to line them up lol

[languid mirage]

every deck kinda needs to be its own cardarea

[hushed cradle]

it is 💀

[languid mirage]

well, probably not necessary

oh

lmao

[atomic falcon]

💀

[languid mirage]

search deck_height in cardarea

that's how the game handles it

[hushed cradle]

cheers

[atomic falcon]

🍻

[hushed cradle]

theres a cardarea:align so thats probably perfect

[atomic falcon]

[hushed cradle]

oh i didnt make them deck card areas

oops

theyre all title card areas

thatll be why

[hushed cradle]

nvm still needs some work

[hallow forge]

why not just 1 card per deck, if it's just stats

[wooden nexus]

So i’m trying to figure out how to make a deck based on abandoned. instead of everything but the face card only in the deck. Trying to learn how to add code to 1.0.0 decks

[hushed cradle]

i feel like the decks gotta be thick

they look better imo

[wooden nexus]

Gonna have to figure out where abandoned’s code is first and recreate it

[hushed cradle]

if you look in backs.lua in the game code its all there i think

[wooden nexus]

Yeah. That’s what i’m gonna do. I gotta see what 1.0.0 mods have decks to see how to import the code in.

[atomic falcon]

ctrl+c, ctrl+v

[hushed cradle]

idk shit about steamodded so good luck

yes?

[atomic falcon]

no

[unkempt thicket]

some of my deck code for 1.0.0

[frosty dock]

that is not the real 1.0.0 way

you can have an apply function on your deck object

[unkempt thicket]

it works

[wooden nexus]

Ah Aure! What’s up?

[frosty dock]

i just got my own spectral

#1267205645854048401

otherwise, nothing much, just just watching some balatro university rn

[wintry solar]

It’s also drawing every card so might cause performance issues if there’s too many idk

[atomic falcon]

clearly underestimating lua

[sand rune]

is there any examples on the 1.0.0 or are the examples in the example folder already the 1.0.0 way?

[hushed cradle]

thats sick asf

[wintry solar]

I’m not sure how up to date the examples are

[hushed cradle]

ive lowered it now

[sand rune]

:C yeah im having to rewrite my mod due to some ehh spaghetti as i didnt use the steammodded from the getgo -.-

[frosty dock]

they've sort of been updated, though I've just noticed deck of 4 still hasn't been fixed and I should probably add SMODS.change_base before I do that

[wooden nexus]

Nice. I’m still trying to figure out how to do decks for ortalab and such

[frosty dock]

though basically for the decks, what you should do is pass an apply function and put any code in that would otherwise go in a Back:apply_to_run() hook, removing conditions that gate for this deck

[sand rune]

cool, will have a snoop and do the migration the right way >_>

[frosty dock]

you may find hooking Back:apply_to_run() is still preferable sometimes, for effects that aren't specific to any one deck

[frosty dock]

anything else in particular you need guidance on?

[unkempt thicket]

how would you set a joker to have this? I looked at how it's done for editions and seals, but I think they are hardcoded

[frosty dock]

it's possible but requires messing with the calculation stack

cryptid does it, but it should become steamodded core functionality at some point

needs some cleaning up first though

[tepid crow]

oh I'd probably be able to use change_base (assuming it's similar to card:change_suit)

[frosty dock]

yeah it'd basically be a more generic version that allows changing one or both of rank and suit

[tepid crow]

ohh I see

even better

as long as I can skip the blind check

[hushed cradle]

anyone know how i change which deck the card area actually is?

    local row = {n=G.UIT.R, config={align = "cm", padding = 0.07, no_fill = true}, nodes={}}
    for j = 1, args.col do
      S.card_display[#S.card_display+1] = CardArea(
        G.ROOM.T.x + 0.2*G.ROOM.T.w/args.row,G.ROOM.T.h,
        G.CARD_W,
        0.95*G.CARD_H, 
        {card_limit = deck_limit, type = 'deck', highlight_limit = 0, collection = false})
      table.insert(row.nodes, 
      {n=G.UIT.C, config={maxw = 0.2, align = "cm", padding = 0, no_fill = true}, nodes={
        {n=G.UIT.O, config={colour = G.C.CLEAR, object = S.card_display[#S.card_display]}}
      }}
      )
    end
    table.insert(deck_tables, row)
  end```

thats the code for the card area

can i pass it a key or anything?

    current_center = current_center + 1
    local center = G.P_CENTER_POOLS[args._type][current_center + (S.current_page*(args.row*args.col))]
    if not center then break end
    local card = Card(S.card_display[i].T.x + S.card_display[i].T.w/args.row, S.card_display[i].T.y, G.CARD_W, G.CARD_H, G.P_CARDS.empty, center)
    for j = 1, deck_limit do
      S.card_display[i]:emplace(card)
    end
    S.card_display[i]:s_create_view_deck()
  end```

thats my code for emplacing the top card

[wintry solar]

card.children.back = Sprite(card.T.x, card.T.y, card.T.w, card.T.h, G.ASSET_ATLAS["centers"], G.P_CENTER_POOLS.Back[count].pos) this is what I'm doing

do your cards drag around btw?

[hushed cradle]

ty

yes they do

[wintry solar]

do they snap back to the area?

[hushed cradle]

yeah

[wintry solar]

huh

I will have to study your code

[hushed cradle]

its pretty rough lol

just tryna get it to work then ill clean it up and resend if youd like

[hallow forge]

i added a lovely folder named lovely to my mod and now the game is crashing immediately, im not sure why

[wintry solar]

hmmm, is that all you have for this screen?

[hushed cradle]

1 sec

  G.SETTINGS.paused = true

  local deck_display = {_type = 'Back', col = 5, row = 2,}

  G.FUNCS.overlay_menu({
    definition = s_create_options({
      back_func = 'saturn_stats',
      title = 'Click on a Deck to view Stats',
      nodes = s_create_deck_display(deck_display),
    })
  })
end```

  args = args or {}
  args._type = args._type or 'Back'
  args.col = args.col or 5
  args.row = args.row or 2
  args.specific_center = args.specific_center or nil
  local deck_tables = {}
  local cards_per_page = args.col*args.row
  local current_center = 0
  local deck_limit = 1

  S.card_display = {}

  for i = 1, args.row do
    local row = {n=G.UIT.R, config={align = "cm", padding = 0.07, no_fill = true}, nodes={}}
    for j = 1, args.col do
      S.card_display[#S.card_display+1] = CardArea(
        G.ROOM.T.x + 0.2*G.ROOM.T.w/args.row,G.ROOM.T.h,
        G.CARD_W,
        0.95*G.CARD_H, 
        {card_limit = deck_limit, type = 'deck', highlight_limit = 0, collection = false})
      table.insert(row.nodes, 
      {n=G.UIT.C, config={maxw = 0.2, align = "cm", padding = 0, no_fill = true}, nodes={
        {n=G.UIT.O, config={colour = G.C.CLEAR, object = S.card_display[#S.card_display]}}
      }}
      )
    end
    table.insert(deck_tables, row)
  end

  if args.specific_center then
    local center = args.specific_center
    local card = Card(S.card_display[1].T.x + S.card_display[1].T.w/args.row, S.card_display[1].T.y, G.CARD_W, G.CARD_H, nil, center)
    S.card_display[1]:emplace(card)
    return {
      {n=G.UIT.R, config={align = "cm", r = 0.1, colour = G.C.CLEAR, emboss = 0.05}, nodes=deck_tables},
    }
  end

  for i = 1, #S.card_display do
    current_center = current_center + 1
    local center = G.P_CENTER_POOLS.Back[current_center + (S.current_page*(args.row*args.col))]
    local card = Card(S.card_display[i].T.x + S.card_display[i].T.w/args.row, S.card_display[i].T.y, G.CARD_W, G.CARD_H, G.P_CARDS.empty, center)
    card.children = Sprite(card.T.x, card.T.y, card.T.w, card.T.h, G.ASSET_ATLAS['centers'], G.P_CENTER_POOLS.Back[current_center + (S.current_page*(args.row*args.col))].pos)
    for j = 1, deck_limit do
      S.card_display[i]:emplace(card, nil, true)
    end
  end
  
  local t = {
    {n=G.UIT.R, config={align = "cm", r = 0.1, colour = G.C.CLEAR, emboss = 0.05}, nodes=deck_tables}, 
    {n=G.UIT.R, config={align = "cm",}, nodes = s_create_page_cycle_options({_type = args._type, colour = lighten(G.C.GREEN, 0.03), _type = args._type, row = args.row, col = args.col})}
  }
  return t
end```

that crashes btw

the sprite thing isnt working

cant tell why

[wintry solar]

that's strange

[hushed cradle]

anyone know how i can stop the cards from tilting about

actually its not that big a deal

but if anyone does know please lmk

[dawn oar]

Would anyone have any idea where card trigger order would be located
I want to try things held in hand such as baron and steels trigger after jokers instead of before

[hallow forge]

evaluate_play function in state_events if i recall

[dawn oar]

ty

[tepid crow]

"tilting" as in moving when the player hovers over them?

[wintry solar]

do your pages work?

[hushed cradle]

yeah

[hushed cradle]

yeah

and they like spin about idly

[lament fjord]

I want to run heap analyses, does Balatro (or Steamodded at least) use some kind of system that I can use to introspect/analyze/reflect the contents of things the heap walker encounters

[tepid crow]

the move on-hover can probably be stopped with one of these (prob hover), don't think any of these also stop the idle spinning though
#💻・modding-dev message

[wintry solar]

ugh I have no idea why my cards don't go in the card area

[tepid crow]

also, I'm very interested in why your card elements do snap back but mine and eremel's don't 🤔

[hushed cradle]

the card areas are display through nodes with objects right

i just make a node with an object thats a card area

then emplace a card

[hushed cradle]

thanks

oh ive already tried that nvm

it decreases it a bit

[wintry solar]

yeah I did that but they still don't snap

it's weird

[hushed cradle]

what kind of card area is it?

mines title if that makes any difference

[wintry solar]

a deck

[hushed cradle]

mine still snapped as decks

hmm

[wintry solar]

let me try title

[hushed cradle]

the code i sent is literally all i have for it

apart from the create_options but thats literally just ui

[tepid crow]

If you really care (I think it looks fine tbh), you could also take a look at what the deck selector does, since those dont spin

[wintry solar]

they snap back with title T_T

okay well I can investigate this

[tepid crow]

what?? but I just emplace mine on top of the cardarea of the deck select

whose top card does snap back I'd like to add

but my card doesn't

[lament fjord]

So apparently Balatro internally uses an OO framework, does steamodded use it as well or is it a different one

At least now I have some idea of how I can introspect heap objects I come across

[tepid crow]

are you talking about Object, Node, etc?

[lament fjord]

engine/object.lua iirc

[tepid crow]

yes that's Object, and Node is one of the subclasses that extends that

[lament fjord]

Does steamodded also use this, or do they have their own

[tepid crow]

and yes, SMODS' GameObject extends Object

[lament fjord]

Okay

[wintry solar]

it seems that every other cardarea type snaps back, but not deck T_T

[tepid crow]

but why/how is the top card of the deck select special??

[wintry solar]

I don't know

but I've literally copied that cardarea and it doesnt snap

🤷‍♂️

[tepid crow]

tf?

isn't that also the one used in the collection deck and in-game deck (the one with "view deck")?

Cuz all of them have their top card snap back 😭

well that can't be good

[wintry solar]

I'm using shop now

[tepid crow]

eh, that seems decent

don't stack any cards though, doesn't look very good

[wintry solar]

yeah

but I can't figure out why the card doesn't snap at all

like even if I hook align_cards to use a different types alignment it doesn't snap

the snapping must be somewhere else in the code

[hushed cradle]

using shop looks so good

im gonna do that too

ty

[wintry solar]

some of these tooltips have tiny text but I'm not sure if I can be bothered fixing that for now

[hushed cradle]

lol

this is what mine look like atm

probably gonna have to make my own ig

[compact idol]

alright let me check if this card area is finally working-OH NO

[hallow forge]

no biomes for you

[wintry solar]

uhhhh where did your trees go

[tepid crow]

seems like a featureTM to me

[compact idol]

accidentally put the position fix in the draw function so it was getting "fixed" every frame lmao

is there a better way to solve card positions in new card areas than just editing the transform of each contained card? bc this feels really hacky and prone to breaking

oh I should probably just inject something into the align_cards function huh

[hallow forge]

maybe look at reverie to see how they did it

[tepid crow]

here's a clip of my horrendous attempt of trying to let the sleeve width adhere to the deck size

[mellow sable]

It’s not applying any of Cryptid’s fancy rendering tricks 😭

[tepid crow]

I should probably actually just do the same thing in the deck select tbh

[wintry solar]

what rendering tricks am I missing

[glass scaffold]

If I want to make my custom joker art, what canvas size should I use?

[wintry solar]

71x95

[glass scaffold]

Thanks

[wintry solar]

@tepid crow omg I think I've fixed the snapping thing

[tepid crow]

please enlighten me

[wintry solar]

oh wait no I haven't

ffs

[tepid crow]

I just got jebaited so hard

[compact idol]

rip

[wintry solar]

so did I

it works until I try and change the sprite

[tepid crow]

the fuck?

[wintry solar]

IT WORKS

[tepid crow]

don't do this to me

not again

[hallow forge]

red deck

[tepid crow]

okay... looks good...

what'd you change?

[wintry solar]

card.children.back:set_role({major = card, role_type = 'Glued', draw_major = card})

you need this

and then it works

#magic

[tepid crow]

no that might make sense

I noticed something a couple min ago

[wintry solar]

I tried to set the role but I didn't know the correct syntax T_T

I just went looking for where the game actually sets the back of the card

[tepid crow]

when I enable hitboxes/bounding rects this happens

[wintry solar]

I put the role on the node containing the cardarea instead of the card

yeah the sprite isn't attached to its box

[tepid crow]

yeah exactly

[wintry solar]

if you click on the deck it flies back

[tepid crow]

yup

[unkempt thicket]

how do you change the probability of a specific item showing up in shop or packs?

[wooden nexus]

atm nope. but that's because I passed out for ~4-5 hours and woke up

[tepid crow]

using take_ownership and modifying the weight works for most items I believe?

that's for booster packs at least, not sure if it works for any other things

[tepid crow]

oh my god it works (and even has an args.offset) that's amazing

[wintry solar]

where in the files are the effects applied?

[mellow sable]

Enhanced.toml I think

[edgy reef]

Probably injected into the draw function.

[glass scaffold]

How to I tell my mod to use assets from the assets folder?

[crisp coral]

if you're using steamodded declarations then they will automatically use assets from assets/1x

[glass scaffold]

So I don't need to change the atlas parameter?

[crisp coral]

oh, have you made a SMODS.Atlas?

[glass scaffold]

Using this example from the wiki:

local j_example = SMODS.Joker:new('Example Joker', 'example', { mult = 10 }, {x=0,y=0}, {
    name = 'Example Joker',
    text = { '{C:red}+#1#{} Mult' }
}, 1, 2, true, false, true, true, 'Mult', 'my_mod_jokers')
j_example:register()```

[tepid crow]

you're using 0.9.8 on purpose?

[crisp coral]

that is VERY old

[glass scaffold]

Alright, what's the skeleton for 1.0.0?

[tepid crow]

on the wiki, the numbered pages

[glass scaffold]

Oh, so the "Creating new game objects" page is not for 1.0.0

[tepid crow]

nope

[compact idol]

found the perfect solution to this, literally just copied the align code from the joker section lmao

[glass scaffold]

where's the skeleton for making a 1.0.0 joker?

[hushed cradle]

in centers

smods centers

[tepid crow]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/03.-API-Documentation#creating-an-object has the call formatting
https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/05.-SMODS.Center#smodsjoker has the arguments
https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/blob/main/example_mods/Mods/JokerAPI_Example/JokerAPI.lua#L30 is an actual implemented example

[glass scaffold]

Thanks

[tepid crow]

only issue I still have is that role_type='Glued' just ignores offset lmao

[wintry solar]

why do you need to offset?

[tepid crow]

the sleeve sprite needs to be in a very weird position

and right now it's just... on top of the deck

probably because of CardArea:align_cards()

[wintry solar]

can you make the sprite bigger so it fits?

[tepid crow]

yeah that's what I was thinking too

actually, don't think that'll work because I also need it to be slightly wider than the cards in its cardarea

yeah when glued it just sets all properties (x, y, w, h) to the major's

[wintry solar]

even if the actual sprite itself is bigger?

[tepid crow]

I'll just try and see

[glass scaffold]

How do I change cards (when scored) into a different suit and rank?

[tepid crow]

I use card:set_base(base), with base being a value in G.P_CARDS (e.g. G.P_CARDS["H_8"] is 8 of hearts)

[glass scaffold]

And I can remove the loc_vars and calculate functions without consequence?

Nvm, just tried it and it works (somehow)

[tepid crow]

not sure

try and see I'd say

[tepid crow]

not really - I always need to actually scale the card height, and the sprite auto-adjusts with it

[wintry solar]

you could try Minor instead of Glued, I think that has a similar effect

[tepid crow]

I can make the card higher, which "stretches" the sprite (which I can then fix again by scaling sprite properly, but that's all so... eh)

[tepid crow]

so..., I thought I tried both Major and Minor and that neither worked, but turns out I only tried Major and Minor works perfectly

(aka actually behaving according to offset)

[wintry solar]

nice!

@brisk pond you can use SMODS.load_file(path) (I saw that sneaky message delete)

[brisk pond]

yeah bc i solved it with local UTIL = load(NFS...) and returning a table of function in the util.lua

[tepid crow]

figuring out the answer to your own question the moment you press enter it is always nice 🙃

[gilded narwhal]

Pantheon spirits

[wintry solar]

I think using the smods version avoids having to return a table in each file

52 card decks?!

[tepid crow]

lmao the rightmost 2 drawing over their neighbours

[wintry solar]

I guess the game draws from left to right

[tepid crow]

by order of G.I.CardArea iirc

[wintry solar]

I think 15 is a good number

[tepid crow]

Selebrak seems very... boring?

[gilded narwhal]

I didn't rlly know what to do with that one

Because in cookie clicker it buffs seasonal events

[wintry solar]

right, it is way past the time I should have been asleep...

[gilded narwhal]

How do you represent that in balatro

[wintry solar]

I guess selecting them properly will happen tomorrow

[tepid crow]

I just looked at the wiki and imma be honest I barely understand what that actually means

[gilded narwhal]

Because having certain seasonal events active has different unlocks and buffs

So selebrak just makes those more prominent

[tepid crow]

gn btw 🫡

[tepid crow]

I mean that table basically reads like "golden cookies appear more often"?

[gilded narwhal]

That's fair

Okay I changed selebrak

But are the others alright in terms of balance

[tepid crow]

I'd say they at least "feel" legendary

[glass scaffold]

        if SMODS.end_convertCards_context(context) then
            return {
                card:set_base(G.P_CARDS["h_a"])
            }
        end
    end```

Got this much done, what else do I need so it can be triggered and convert the cards after scoring?

[tepid crow]

what kind of object do you have? if it's a joker you could do the same thing hiker does

[glass scaffold]

It's a Joker

[tepid crow]

yeah you can copy hiker's code

[glass scaffold]

Cool.

Problem: How?

[tepid crow]

combine hiker's code and an steamodded joker example (e.g. https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/blob/main/example_mods/Mods/JokerAPI_Example/JokerAPI.lua) into a single thing

2 notes:
I think you need to use calculate = function(self, card, context) instead of the example's calculate = function(card, context)?
it's G.P_CARDS["H_A"] (they're always capitalized)

[glass scaffold]

But where do I get Hiker's code?

[tepid crow]

do you know how to look through the game's code?

[glass scaffold]

Most likely no

would I use Local Files or %appdata%/Balatro to find it?

[tepid crow]

local steam files

open with 7zip

hiker's code is around card.lua:3066

you only care about "when" hiker triggers though, if that makes sense

[glass scaffold]

                        context.other_card.ability.perma_bonus = context.other_card.ability.perma_bonus or 0
                        context.other_card.ability.perma_bonus = context.other_card.ability.perma_bonus + self.ability.extra
                        return {
                            extra = {message = localize('k_upgrade_ex'), colour = G.C.CHIPS},
                            colour = G.C.CHIPS,
                            card = self
                        }
                end```

So this code?

[tepid crow]

the "when" is the if-chain above it

            if context.cardarea == G.play```

because that's the condition for hiker to trigger

aka the condition for your joker

[glass scaffold]

and then the return { card:set_base(G.P_CARDS["H_A"]) } goes after that G.play thing?

[tepid crow]

I'm honestly not sure

[glass scaffold]

        if context.individual then
            if context.cardarea == G.play
            return {
                card:set_base(G.P_CARDS["H_A"])
            }
        end
    end,
    atlas = "AryaTheWitch"```

This check out?

[tepid crow]

the return seems to create both the pop-up for the... joker? and sometimes also an action?

[glass scaffold]

I have no clue what i'm doing, but I just need it to do a message and the actual action.

[tepid crow]

huh, I can't get a message to appear lol

[glass scaffold]

Alright, running it with this code. Let's see.

[tepid crow]

well you do seem to be missing an end

[glass scaffold]

where?

[tepid crow]

oh and also the then

in the second if

unless lua syntax allows it like that

[glass scaffold]

Alright, last check before run.

[tepid crow]

got the then, didn't got the end

[glass scaffold]

where does the new end need to go?

[tepid crow]

to close the 2nd if block

[glass scaffold]

💀

[tepid crow]

if your code is still looking like this you're still missing that end

[glass scaffold]

But where does it need to go?

the ends already look like they close it

[tepid crow]

that's cuz you're not indenting correctly

should look like this

do you see the change?

[glass scaffold]

Now I do (pushed the changes)

Now let's test it

Cause Balatro's successfully running

[tepid crow]

always a good first step

[glass scaffold]

Aaaaaand no effect.

Played a hand, didn't trigger at all.

[tepid crow]

wow I just edited that image without noticing the issue myself lol

[glass scaffold]

What was it?

[tepid crow]

read this message again and see if you can figure it out too lol

[glass scaffold]

A --> Ace / ACE
remove "self"?

[tepid crow]

second guess was close

function name should be calculate, not convertCards

[glass scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-20411229

brb, getting food

THEN we test again

[tepid crow]

ait Imma go to bed

maybe someone else can help you out with the message thing

oh and use context.other_card:set_base(...) instead of card.set_base(...)

I think card is the joker
ah, nevermind, self is the center and card is the joker instance, similar but not the same

[glass scaffold]

Every change pushed.

Testing time

IT WORKS

But I need to get that AFTER it scores

and message still

BUT IT WORKS

[compact idol]

anyone know what's wrong with this lovely patch? the print statements aren't running and it doesn't show up in the lovely dump. this is specifically targeting evaluate_play after the joker_main and edition contexts.

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "state_events.lua"
pattern = '''local nu_chip, nu_mult'''
position = "before"
payload = '''
for i=1, #G.biomes.cards do
    local _card = G.biomes.cards[i]
    print("biome eval trigger A")
    local effects = eval_card(_card, {cardarea = G.biomes, full_hand = G.play.cards, scoring_hand = scoring_hand, scoring_name = text, poker_hands = poker_hands, biome_main = true})
    if effects.biomes then 
        ("biome eval trigger B")
        local extras = {mult = false, hand_chips = false}
        if effects.biomes.mult_mod then mult = mod_mult(mult + effects.biomes.mult_mod);extras.mult = true end
        if effects.biomes.chip_mod then hand_chips = mod_chips(hand_chips + effects.biomes.chip_mod);extras.hand_chips = true end
        if effects.biomes.Xmult_mod then mult = mod_mult(mult*effects.biomes.Xmult_mod);extras.mult = true  end
        update_hand_text({delay = 0}, {chips = extras.hand_chips and hand_chips, mult = extras.mult and mult})
        card_eval_status_text(_card, 'jokers', nil, percent, nil, effects.biomes)
        percent = percent+percent_delta
    end
end
'''
match_indent = true

[crisp coral]

target = "functions/state_events.lua"

[compact idol]

y'know, after like 6 years of programming you'd think I'd be better at it by now

thanks lol

[mighty pendant]

info_queue[#info_queue+1] = ... there's literally a function called append, what are you doing?

[wintry solar]

it's faster than using table.insert

[mighty pendant]

I'm also trying to work out where the game creates packs inside the shop

[mighty pendant]

huh interesting

[rain imp]

Is it possible to give Wee Joker a different texture? Afaik it just takes the usual Joker's texture

[frosty dock]

yeah you can just change its atlas/sprite position

[mighty pendant]

will it still be wee?

as in little

[rain imp]

Great, does it need to be patched in or a base lua function will do?

[rain imp]

iirc it is scaled down in the same place as half joker and others do

[frosty dock]

yeah

[mighty pendant]

also do you know where this code is?

[frosty dock]

you can do it with steamodded functions

if you want a different joker to be wee, I think you can just make its (internal, not key or display) name 'Wee Joker' and it'll work

actually I've yet to try that

[mighty pendant]

that's a strange thing about the code in this game. It mostly relies on string names for things

[frosty dock]

steamodded mostly uses keys instead because why decollision two separate strings

[mighty pendant]

found it in game.lua:3118

I think

[rain imp]

Nice, now I need to find where it assigns atlas to cards

[frosty dock]

jokers have no atlas associated with them usually, it will just default to the Joker atlas

you can assign a different one through steamodded by doing something like SMODS.Joker:take_ownership('j_wee', { atlas = 'your_atlas', pos = { x = 0, y = 0 } }) where your_atlas is defined through SMODS.Atlas, and the x and y values match the joker's position on the atlas

[rain imp]

I meant the position, I'm familiar with .json atlas configs but not whatever happens here

I found this one

[mighty pendant]

pos={x=0,y=0}

[frosty dock]

the shrinking happens in code elsewhere

{x=0,y=0} is just the position of the standard joker, and it uses the name elsewhere as a condition to shrink

[rain imp]

Ohh, so it counts the tiles by itself? That's why it is so confusing

[rain imp]

In card.lua:251 actually

[frosty dock]

it isn't in one place

there's another bit of code in Card:load()

[rain imp]

Anyway, issue solved, thank you!

[tidal edge]

how do you make a joker like "the duo" and "the tribe", the only feature i need is x2 mult when a hand type is played

[zealous glen]

You can read the source code for those

[tidal edge]

ok

[zealous glen]

Though IIRC they use a variable not in extra, which you could use, but you can also define your own

[tidal edge]

uh

which file in the game is the joker file again

[zealous glen]

you can look at card.Lua but generally it’s easier to open the folder inside a decent program and searching all of it

[tidal edge]

is base_spectrum wehere the poker hand would be put

[mighty pendant]

I use vs code

[frosty dock]

yeah

or you can just put the key there, like 'h_rh_Run'

I just like to not hardcode prefixed keys

[tidal edge]

wow that was easy

time to do that 3 more times

[mighty pendant]

what's a run? A smaller straight?

[tidal edge]

#1267206668996050989

its a hand in my mod

also for some reason i cant enter a seed

i havent even messed with text input it just did that

well its fine now

[mighty pendant]

3 cards containing a Pair and an additional High Card that is one rank higher than the Pairs rank.

[tidal edge]

yep

[mighty pendant]

interesting, doesn't sound too hard to find

[tidal edge]

yeah but it gets rarer later on

run of three has to contain a 3oak and a high card

run of four contains 4oak

and run house is the same thing

but the high card is a pair

[mighty pendant]

run of five contains 5oak?

[tidal edge]

what

[mighty pendant]

2,2,3,3 for example?

[tidal edge]

run of five doesnt exist

because that would require

5 cards

and then a high card

run of four has to contain 4 cards and a high card

[mighty pendant]

what if you add my mod which lets you play 6 cards with the card+ voucher?

[tidal edge]

ooh

that could be cool compatability

ill add it to the feature list

[mighty pendant]

except my mod isn't finished yet

[mighty pendant]

what would a run two triple be then? (e.g. 2 2 2 3 3 3)?

[tidal edge]

also a run house is

eg.

22233

[tidal edge]

yeah

[mighty pendant]

and not 22333?

[tidal edge]

yeah

[mighty pendant]

what would that be? Just a full house?

[tidal edge]

a full house but

last 2 cards

are a rank above

the first 3 cards

[mighty pendant]

speaking of which do you have flush runs?

[mighty pendant]

so it contains a run

[tidal edge]

;yeah

[tidal edge]

no

would be a bit too specific

[mighty pendant]

four of a kind and high card with all cards the same suit

[tidal edge]

if we did that

anyway

i gotta go for a bit

share more info later

[mighty pendant]

alright 👍

[tidal edge]

check out the forum post

if you want to talk more

[mighty pendant]

I need to work out why my omni cards aren't working

[frosty dock]

yeah that's a steamodded bug

[zealous glen]

I’m transitioning to it

[mighty pendant]

from...?

[zealous glen]

Sublime Text

[frosty dock]

paste seed bug is fixed on latest

[languid mirage]

[frosty dock]

me when ERROR

[languid mirage]

yea I'm just creating shader for jen

shaders are awesome

[zealous glen]

Teach me your ways

[shell timber]

there is one issue in that the original card gets drawn below

[languid mirage]

it's a 1 patch fix

if you find in code how negative is drawn

you can see that there's a check with like if card is negative then only negative shader is used

but otherwise its dissolve shader (which causes the card being rendered behind)

[oblique gust]

guys serious question what is match_indent even doing

i remember asking it somewhere several times but got bumped away

[frosty dock]

it prepends the whitespace before the matched line to each non-empty line in the payload

[oblique gust]

oh so it wont at all be the cause of any failed patch but kind of a prettifier

[frosty dock]

yeah

[oblique gust]

thanks A LOT now i fully get it

[frosty dock]

[oblique gust]

and i got 2 more Qs
whats its default if its not present? or its required?
and does the priority work as steamodded (the bigger the later?) or the opposite?

[languid mirage]

it is required

priority 0 applied first

but because like 99% of mods have priority 0 it's random

between other 0 priority patches

iirc unreleased lovely version supports negative priority already which is nice

[oblique gust]

k got it

[languid mirage]

also if u copied someone else's patch with overwrite you can safely remove that line as it does nothing

only "at" patch will overwrite

[zealous glen]

It didn’t do anything for my regex patch IIRC

[frosty dock]

yeah it doesn't apply to regex, only pattern patches

regex has line_prepend instead

[languid mirage]

lovely gives a warning in console when you have parameter that does nothing in your patch

[primal robin]

Question. I want to add custom configuration to blind object, which can be used by others for integration with my mod. Which variant is better: use blind.config.extra or create own table like blind.config.my_mod?

[frosty dock]

blind config as opposed to card config does not have special keys

so it really doesn't matter

[brisk pond]

Is there a way to add a new deck art into this menu?

[wintry solar]

not at the moment

AltTextures have been put on the side for now

it'll look like this eventually

[brisk pond]

https://tenor.com/view/super-buu-hourglass-waiting-gif-10866079

[primal robin]

Also, can i somehow flip blind chip sprite upside down?

[wintry solar]

are we making progress like this?

or does this look bad

[languid mirage]

looks good

[primal robin]

Looks cool

[brisk pond]

looks great

[languid mirage]

but probably better to have some better selected deck indication

[wintry solar]

oh it will do

[limpid flint]

What will right panel do?

[wintry solar]

I think I'll have the deck appear in that panel

[brisk pond]

I think "Green Deck Deck Selected" is a placeholder

[brisk pond]

the selected deck and the stake chooser?

[limpid flint]

I'm also thinking about stakes

[wintry solar]

stakes will be on the next page

this is my current idea

the bit at the bottom is what you've selected, and the green lights will indicate which stakes are applied for that

[limpid flint]

What about placing the stakes on the deck to indicate you're choosing it

I'm just thinking out loud

[languid mirage]

ngl this somehow looks off

can't put my finger on what exactly

[shell timber]

the miscoloured ui elements with extra backgrounds?

granted it's just a mockup

[languid mirage]

no I mean layout

[limpid flint]

This look like config menu, not someone playing in a casino

[languid mirage]

maybe it's the green/red dots

[limpid flint]

But I mean it's certainly going to change

[languid mirage]

well, I'm simply giving my opinion

[limpid flint]

What does the dots indicate anyway

[languid mirage]

which stakes apply, probably

that took me a second to realize

[crisp coral]

too big, i'd rather have them as lists like houserules does

[limpid flint]

Really think it would be cool to simulate someone actually playing in a casino

[lament fjord]

Current progress: I can use Lua's introspective capabilities to get ahold of the source locations where classes are defined

Not exactly names, but pretty close

[limpid flint]

You pick a deck from the deck piles, pick which stake to gamble on

Stack the stakes like they are actual stakes

[languid mirage]

maybe this could work (without applies previous stakes text)

[tepid crow]

you might want to use the controller highlight thing, it gives a nice white border around a selected element

[languid mirage]

yeah I was thinking of that as well

probably want to make it a bit smaller tho

[limpid flint]

What I imagine is, like real stakes, you will stack them, the one on the top applies all the below ones
On second thought it might look bad in practice/hard to be implemented

[wintry solar]

Yeah I have no idea what the best way to display stakes is

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1262564167907278898/1262888760807260293/image.png?ex=66a8b70f&is=66a7658f&hm=b069704f0249a474bcb915a4856b87fc7304bc3f66131a94f45ff7714474ac04&
But anything must be better than this

[wintry solar]

Will look into this, I was trying to dynamically add an outline but couldn’t get it working

[tidal edge]

hey does anyone know why this joker wont work

its supposed to only give 2x mult

for h_rh_run

but it gives 2x for everything

[wintry solar]

Pretty sure your type should be a string

[tidal edge]

oh ok

lol

[frosty dock]

yeah else it's just nil

[tidal edge]

uh

it still wont work

[zealous glen]

I don’t know how I feel about it being multiple pages long. Is there a quick start option?

That said, I think you could use the Stake chips without the green and red dots, just highlighting them in some way (size, saturation, outline, etc.)

[tepid crow]

just wondering, what would a "quick start" look like?

[limpid flint]

I imagine it will remember your last run's setting and you can apply it in one single click

So you don't need to click here and there... click this... click that

[tepid crow]

ohhh just a single "play previous", kinda like the game already does for the normal play menu

yeah makes sense

[wintry solar]

Yeah it’ll function as it currently does in terms of pre selecting things for you

[crisp coral]

doesn't base game already do that

[mighty pendant]

do I need to add all language support for my mod?

[limpid flint]

But in this there are multiple pages

[wintry solar]

You just won’t need to cycle through 50 decks or stakes to find the one you need

[limpid flint]

In the game right now you just click new run, but in eremel's you will still need two clicks

[wintry solar]

I don’t see that as an issue tbh

[limpid flint]

Well maybe, there's always room to improve it

[zealous glen]

I think it’s an issue

But you could just add a single button quickstart

[crisp coral]

i also see that as a nonissue

[limpid flint]

Maybe just make play button always visible, and the select stake/deck a toggle

I consider it a potential issue

[wintry solar]

I thinking adding one extra click if you’re playing the exact same deck stake combo is fine when you consider all the saved clicks if you want to change either option

[bright abyss]

uh, does modding this game require knowing like, any pre-existing coding languages

[tepid crow]

I wouldn't try learning how to program by modding balatro if that's what you're asking
if you already have experience with some other language (e.g. Java, Python, C, whatever) then using Lua isn't very hard

[limpid flint]

Fair then, at least yours are much more efficient

[wintry solar]

But if anyone wants to mock up some stake selection ideas I am more than happy to take a look and find a solution that everyone likes

[crisp coral]

what's the variable to make the sound start over like the old behavior?

by sound i meant music

[limpid flint]

I really think they should be stacked together like sideways and you can flip through them, they are overlapping each other meaning they will apply all the ones below them

[bright abyss]

i just don't have any programming experience but think making a mod would b cool

[wintry solar]

Also remember that this is to counteract having 50+ options

[tidal edge]

hey thats what im doing

and im doing

fineee

[wintry solar]

I’d like the solution to make it easy to select the one you want, but also able to see what effects you are applying to your run, especially as custom stakes aren’t ordered in any sort of way from what I remember

[limpid flint]

Aren't they supposed to be ordered

[tepid crow]

I mean personally I'd suggest at least looking at a lua tutorial before going into balatro

[wintry solar]

If I remember right, there is an option to set which stake it comes after, but I think it still just puts them in injection order in that category

As soon as two different mods try and add their own stake chain, or you have branches in your own stake chain it becomes a mess to flick through

[tidal edge]

how do you make your jonkler blueprint and brainstorm compatible

[zealous glen]

Usually nothing

[tidal edge]

well

my thing that gives 2x for hand types

is not brainstorm compat

i just happened to get the both of them

and it said incomptabile

[zealous glen]

But did you test it?

Because saying it’s compatible is separate from compatibility

The message is just a Boolean variable set when you create a Joker

[zealous glen]

How about the vanilla content being 1 click accessible but modded content being hidden deeper?

[tidal edge]

oh

it does actually copy it

but

how do i make it

SAY

compatible

[zealous glen]

And quickstart helps you 1-click modded content

[tidal edge]

because its annoying

that it doesnt

[zealous glen]

@tidal edge

Check the wiki

Or another mod

[tidal edge]

the balatro wiki or another wiki

[zealous glen]

Steamodded wiki of course

It’s something like blueprint_compat

[zealous glen]

For example: all vanilla stakes are in the first page, and modded stakes are hidden in further pages

[tidal edge]

also why WONT THIS WORK

my hand is named

Run

and the prefixes make it

h_rh_Run

but it gives mult

for every hand

[bright abyss]

do u know any goo one?

[zealous glen]

Idk ping aure

[bright abyss]

good ones*

[zealous glen]

I started without any tutorials but I already knew Python

I think beginner programmers need to understand that computers are stupid

[unkempt thicket]

i just looked at other mods code and see what they did and figured out how to mod from there

[zealous glen]

After you get past that barrier it becomes easier IMO

[limpid flint]

Maybe group them into subgroups? Like base game, cryptid, <mod name1>, <mod name2> and inside you get to choose the exact stake to play? By this will significantly reduce the amount of clicking

[zealous glen]

That’s close to what I said, but I still think vanilla should all be in the first screen

[unkempt thicket]

base game, other mods in alphabetical order

[bright abyss]

how

[zealous glen]

Most mods are on GitHub

In fact, mods shared here need to be open source

I started with a single Joker mod for Steamodded 0.9.8

You can try modding a single Joker into 1.0.0

[wintry solar]

That sounds way more convoluted than just having pages of stakes in the order they’re in their table

[zealous glen]

How so?

[limpid flint]

My personal opinion is the stakes should be shown in one page...to indicate their stacking effect

[shell tangle]

I'd also like to suggest taking a look at this mod to try and start off with, it's meant to be for beginners, but is still a little WIP. Let me know if there's anything that doesn't feel clear in the explanations. Doesn't have the atlas with it yet, though.

[zealous glen]

But mods don’t need to have linear stakes

So that kind of breaks down

[wintry solar]

Well if you can mock up a clean way to show all the stakes at once, be my guest

[limpid flint]

By subgrouping them it will look tidier

Not all at the same time

[zealous glen]

I don’t think all stake options should be onscreen at the same time, but after selecting one, maybe all of the ones it implies could be shown to the side

Like a deck

Or a pile of chips

Or a mound of chips

[bright abyss]

no like, how o you just look at a mod's code and learn how to do it

[limpid flint]

That's what I originally saying

Besides the selection part that is

[zealous glen]

I mean, if you want to do Á and a vanilla or modded Joker does A, then you only need to figure out how to go from A to Á

With Steamodded there’s some incomplete documentation, and undocumented vanilla options, so you can see how other mods set up what they’re doing even if they’re doing B

But I think starting with a single Joker is easier

[wintry solar]

I could make a tower of chips to represent the stakes that are applied, would you want them to have tooltips too?

[bright abyss]

i guess

how could i crack open some joker coding

[limpid flint]

Should be separated tho, or else it could look like a mess

[shell timber]

oh yeah a pile of chips sounds good

[limpid flint]

Do you imagine the tool tip only showing the top one? Or the one currently hover over?

[zealous glen]

I thought about tooltips but I’m not sure if it’s worth supporting

How many can there reasonably be until they can’t fit?

And how many would the average mod have?

[zealous glen]

You can unzip vanilla or again check some mod on GitHub

[tepid crow]

no, sorry, I never followed any lua tutorials 😅

[mellow sable]

Also should make it easier to visually understand when the stake order doesn’t represent the order you select them

[bright abyss]

could u please not ping me so much btw

and how would i unzip it?

[zealous glen]

With anything that unzips

[mellow sable]

Maybe tooltips only for the highest stake and on hover?

[mellow sable]

0.3, because Cryptid has 24 and almost every other mod has 0

[zealous glen]

You can copy the .exe then unzip the copy

[bright abyss]

like opening the archive?

[zealous glen]

What archive

[limpid flint]

Zip file

[tepid crow]

yes, like opening the archive

[crisp coral]

i can turn houserules into a stakes mod

so the average would become 0.6

[bright abyss]

oh hey and i have a code editor installed from that one time a friend tried to convince me to raid some crypto scam server

[zealous glen]

I thought about:

1. Selected stake, mentions previous stakes in the dependency graph;
2. All implied stakes, added dynamically;
3. Selected stake, nothing else;
4. Selected stake, can hover over others to see them.

Balatrostuck wants to add 1 Stake IIRC

[limpid flint]

2 or 4

[zealous glen]

I don’t think 2 is good because the tooltip could go offscreen

Unless it’s like

Misprint

[wintry solar]

Something like this?

[bright abyss]

i've always found just being able to crack open a game's brain while it's running lol

[wintry solar]

And when there’s too many in the stack, they stack tighter

[limpid flint]

Stakes added by different mods will mix or will be separated ?

I mean their applied order

[shell timber]

stake tech tree

[languid mirage]

I dont like the idea of stakes being ordered same way as decks, just makes no sense

[bright abyss]

wonder where these jokers are hiding

[shell timber]

honestly a tree pattern would be interesting if mods have stakes that're applicable out of order

[wintry solar]

I just don’t see how else you’re going to display them on the screen

[languid mirage]

.

my idea

it's not ideal, but it makes a bit more sense imo

[zealous glen]

Missing a quickstart button. Also I’d do a proof-of-concept to see how high can the stake tower get

[languid mirage]

stake tower has the same issue as old menu with tons of modded stakes

[zealous glen]

As I said, it could be a mound

[zealous glen]

You don’t select the stakes on the tower

That’s just there for diegetic purposes

[wintry solar]

It’s just a visual representation for how many stakes you’re applying

[languid mirage]

but at some point it will look like this

which is what we're trying to avoid?

[wintry solar]

No I’m trying to avoid having to single scroll through the entire stake selection to find what you’re looking for

[zealous glen]

An idea. Have the chips in chip-shaped holes, and desaturate unselected ones

[wintry solar]

You’ll always be able to see the top chip of the tower, and it’ll only be stakes that are being applied, not all of them

[zealous glen]

Alternative they could be distinguished by size or outline

[wintry solar]

Desaturating the ones that aren’t applied you mean?

[bright abyss]

where are the jokers stored in the files

[tepid crow]

resources/textures/2x/jokers.png

[zealous glen]

Ehh… the ones except the specific one you selected

Although

Since Stake colors are important, maybe desaturating them isn’t a good idea

[bright abyss]

not like the sprites

like their coding

[limpid flint]

Selected one a bit brighter

Or just simply a checkmark

[zealous glen]

It’s just a long if-then-else tower in card.lua

[tepid crow]

they're kinda completely scattered over multiple files?

[zealous glen]

Oops

[limpid flint]

Or circle it

[zealous glen]

My bad for the ping

[bright abyss]

nah its fine

the occasional ping is cool

it just sets me off when i get like, more than 2 in one conversation

[zealous glen]

I prefer size or outline. Heck maybe alpha

[bright abyss]

that's worrying lmao

[tepid crow]

I usually just do a global search in the game's code for the jokers name

[zealous glen]

Name or key

Sometimes you search for the overlap

But sometimes it’s hard to tell what the key should be

Or thunk made a typo

[tepid crow]

god the caino typo stil fucks me up

[bright abyss]

oh god is it just defining jokers as not any of the jokers behind the joker it's referencing

[tepid crow]

no it's basically just if joker.name == "Campfire" then ... for 2000 lines

[bright abyss]

oh so the actions are defined off of the name?

[zealous glen]

Steamodded does define everything* locally

Not for modded Jokers

Just for vanilla ones

[bright abyss]

well yeah the vanilla ones

[zealous glen]

Also context

[bright abyss]

time to name every joker perkeo!

[tepid crow]

basically? they also have a hardcoded "context" they apply in

[zealous glen]

Steamodded automatically adds an infix to your Joker keys

[tepid crow]

I suggest you just go read the code at card.lua tbh

[bright abyss]

yeah that's what im doing

[wintry solar]

I don’t think reading the source code is relevant until you’re writing calculate functions tbh

[tepid crow]

sure, but they seem interested in the inner workings

[bright abyss]

i just kina wanna make some neat jokers

[unkempt thicket]

heres a simple example of a modded joker, that give x3 mult (the other part of what it does is somewhere else)

the debuffing of suit

is somewhere else

[wintry solar]

@shell tangle has a great resource that writes some base game jokers in the modded style

[zealous glen]

Also Steamodded supports localization files

Which I’ve been using

[bright abyss]

im gonn guess rarity 2 is uncommon

[unkempt thicket]

I prefer to keep most of my code to one file

[bright abyss]

so like, does that joker give you 3x mult and debuff all of your heart cards?

[unkempt thicket]

whats shown just gives 3x mult

this does the heart debuffing

[bright abyss]

oh, neat

why does it mention debuffing?

oh wwait lmao

im a bit dumb

thats the description

[zealous glen]

I think it’d be easier to localize when the entire localization is in one file

And I plan to have three localizations

[bright abyss]

well that's a lot of code for a flat 3x mult

[unkempt thicket]

¯_ (ツ)_/¯

[zealous glen]

I mean most of that is just setting variables every Joker needs

[zealous glen]

Why is your emoji half-Rayman

You didn’t escape the escapes

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-the-simpsons-nelson-muntz-lol-funny-gif-20386320

[bright abyss]

what're the variables?

[zealous glen]

Read the Steamodded wiki

But you know

[bright abyss]

there's a wiki?

[zealous glen]

Name price tooltip rarity etc.

[unkempt thicket]

this part gives the x3 mult, while the rest is mostly setting up the joker

that key in message won't work though its mod specific

[bright abyss]

...do you have the link to the wiki?

[unkempt thicket]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/01.-Getting-started

I have it open constantly

[bright abyss]

neat

thnks for tolerating me

maybe ill just try making a basic chip joker

[golden lake]

you guys are my favorite modding community fr

[bright abyss]

i feel like my thousand yard stare is swiftly getting larger (longer, wider? idk)

[frosty dock]

same tbh

[limpid flint]

I have no clue what other modding community looks like

[unkempt thicket]

are the other ones bad?

[bright abyss]

idk what any of those mean lmao

[unkempt thicket]

I would say the important ones are badge_color, display_name, and prefix. I don't really use the others

[bright abyss]

what's the difference between the display name and actual name?

[unkempt thicket]

actual name will appear in the code and mod folder, display will appear on the badge

[bright abyss]

neat

what's the badge?

[languid mirage]

display name might as well be called badge name

[bright abyss]

oh wait

sorry i missed that message lmao

uh, will messing with the code disable achievements?

[languid mirage]

a badge is a thing like "Negative" on tooltip

[bright abyss]

ah

[languid mirage]

but it will display your mod name

for items that your mod added

[unkempt thicket]

an identifier that tells what joker is from what mod (the six hundred suits is the badge for this example)

[bright abyss]

ah god adding new stuff to the sprite sheet would prob be a pain

[languid mirage]

you just create your own atlas

look at any other mod

[shell tangle]

Bumping this up, because it has explanations for everything that's been asked so far.

[bright abyss]

oh yeah totlly forgot about that

sorry

[languid mirage]

example from cryptid

[shell tangle]

And here's the mod itself with atlases, so you can actually boot it up and mess with the values and experiment.

[unkempt thicket]

cryptid has a lot it could probably be shorter

[bright abyss]

neat

lot of weird text lol

[unkempt thicket]

i only use four of these atlases, the rest i am working on

[crisp coral]

bump

[tepid crow]

is the example mod ultimate random deck the best way to do randomness in Back:apply?
because I don't think that respects the game seed?

[frosty dock]

no_sync

[frosty dock]

no because it doesn't respect seeds or custom objects

[tepid crow]

is there... a better way?

[frosty dock]

consult Antimatter deck

but I'll update the example mod

[tepid crow]

alright I'll take a look

[crisp coral]

thanksies

[tepid crow]

You mean cryptid's antimatter deck right?
I'm probably stupid but I can't find any randomization being done in antimatter's (or misprint's) apply

I was looking for more of a simple randomize starting hands and discards (while respecting the seed) if that matters
I could also:
a) hook Game:start_run myself, and call my own apply afterwards, but that seems prone to breaking for a variety of reasons
b) use lovely to move the seed generation in Game:start_run forward so it's before back:apply_to_run(), but if multiple mods do this it'll probably break

alternatively, if you can do random with run seed in back:apply and I just need to wait for you to update the example mod lmk