💻・modding-dev

[edgy reef]

It does

[solemn coral]

Aaah okay that's a bit safer then

[crisp coral]

except people are dumb most of the time

[solemn coral]

Still would prefer Discord didn't allow them at all, but as long as they show the real link before loading any of the page they're at least making an effort I guess

[solid salmon]

oh shoot i need to patch my mod

[mellow sable]

They should allow markdown links but not to spoof links

Check if it looks like a link with regex or something

[crisp coral]

maybe i should put all the badge colors into G.C...

[solid salmon]

Guys is it ease_joker_slot or ease_joker_slots?

[crisp coral]

neither

read Antimatter's code or some Cryptid ones

[mellow sable]

Negative Joker

[edgy reef]

It should be a CardArea function, no?

iirc

[mellow sable]

I think you just change the number of joker slots manually

[solid salmon]

i can't find it in your source code

[mellow sable]

Epic Jokers.lua

[glossy stump]

hello, sorry if this has been asked before, is there any resources or documentation for developing the mods? im having trouble understanding the example mods

[crisp coral]

don't look at example mods, most of them aren't updated

look at Lua documentation for how the language works, and the source code for Balatro and other mods to know how a mod works

[glossy stump]

where can i find balatro source code?

[solid salmon]

yeah i see it

[pine trellis]

you can unzip the exe file

[solid salmon]

then do 7zip --> open archive

[glossy stump]

thanks! i'll check it out

[solid salmon]

do i just remove ease_joker_slots

ok

final product

this is my yellow deck joker suggested by denver

Imma sleep

[stray warren]

Is this an issue :: WARN :: DefaultLogger :: Duplicate Mod prefix joke used by JokerSellValue, JokerDisplay

Because my game is not loading JokerSellValue in-game and I can't figure out why. But Lovely is acknowledging its presence in the terminal

[edgy reef]

Do you have a defined mod prefix?

If you don't it'll use the default which would match with JokerDisplay (if it also uses default).

[stray warren]

My mod doesn't add any content that would use a prefix though

[edgy reef]

Steamodded still checks anyways.

[stray warren]

That wouldn't be the issue of strictly not loading my mod in-game, would it?

[edgy reef]

That's what happens when a mod triggers this type of error.

[stray warren]

How do I implement my own prefix?

[edgy reef]

--- PREFIX: asdf Add this to the main mod file header

[stray warren]

That fixed it. Thanks!

[rough furnace]

I think this might be worse

[fast badge]

real af

im stealing that

[zealous glen]

Is that Monika

[unkempt ridge]

Just monika

[fast badge]

she just a goofy goober

[zealous glen]

She’s a goofy goober, yeah

[night pagoda]

another fluorescent iteration

[solid salmon]

wait are chips usable like self_ability_mult

[solid salmon]

found out that it's called self_ability_extra

[fallen tendon]

Lol no thats just the config

Used to change the values in jokers at a glance

But yeah it does the same thing

[solid salmon]

as chips

[fallen tendon]

Well im pretty sure the game uses self.ability.chips

[solid salmon]

oh

that was my first thought

[fallen tendon]

Also why are you putting underscores instead of periods

[solid salmon]

betmma told me to

[fallen tendon]

Even if it doesnt you still just, yk, can

[solid salmon]

wait

it actually is periods

[fallen tendon]

Or you could make extra = {chips = value}

[fallen tendon]

When you use underscores the game thinks its one parge variable

[solid salmon]

ok

[fallen tendon]

Periods indicate that its a series of variables inside each other

Also im pretty sure using self.ability is weird in steammodded, you could hse self.config or card.ability

[solid salmon]

i did

i keep on texting the wrong things

this crashes the game

[fallen tendon]

You are approaching this completely wrong

First, learn lua, that is not how in pairs works

Second, just use campfire context in the calculate function so you dont need to hook

Oh also you are saving a variable to uhhhh absolutely nothing whatsoever

yellow_deck_joker has not been declared at all in the code so jokers becomes nil (the absence of any meaningful value, different from 0 or false)

[frosty dock]

i seriously can't with this

[fallen tendon]

I gave him the literal lua book https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html#P1

[solid salmon]

i read that

[fallen tendon]

Im not sure he has read any of it

[solid salmon]

not entirely

but read some

[fallen tendon]

Ok what is a boolean

[solid salmon]

dude

im on vacation

im on freetime

[fallen tendon]

That was the sixth page

[crisp coral]

based

[solid salmon]

fine you want me to read ill read

[fallen tendon]

Ok

[solid salmon]

and take notes

[fallen tendon]

Great idea actually

[solid salmon]

how far into the book should i go

so far i am at chapter 2

[fallen tendon]

Right now, chapter 5

[solid salmon]

ok

[brisk pond]

it happened again

I just copied the load line and changed it to load the Zorro file, and put 01_Zorro.lua in the jokers folder

if I delete the load line from main file, the game loads perfectly

line 202 is load(NFS.read(SMODS.current_mod.path .. 'jokers/01_Zorro.lua'))() just after -- JOKERS

[wintry solar]

is your Zorro file the same as your others?

also missing curly bracket on config

missing end in your calculate function

[solid salmon]

I read chapter 5

[outer hedge]

why did my code trigger 12 times

        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
            func = function()
                local card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, nil, nil, nil, nil, 'j_madness')
                card:add_to_deck()
                card:set_edition({
                    negative = true
                })
                card:set_eternal(true)
                G.jokers:emplace(card)
        return true; end}))
        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
            func = function()
                local card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, nil, nil, nil, nil, 'j_riff_raff')
                card:add_to_deck()
                card:set_edition({
                    negative = true
                })
                card:set_eternal(true)
                G.jokers:emplace(card)
        return true; end}))```

(the if self.effect.config.deck_insanity then does end but it's after this part of the code)

[outer hedge]

and it decided to now work fine?

[outer hedge]

i made it log when the functions were called and the "This is an info message" message doesn't exist in the code

        sendInfoMessage("deck_insanity function called", "InfoLogger")
        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
            func = function()
                local card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, nil, nil, nil, nil, 'j_madness')
                card:add_to_deck()
                card:set_edition({
                    negative = true
                })
                card:set_eternal(true)
                G.jokers:emplace(card)
        return true; end}))
        G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
            func = function()
                local card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, nil, nil, nil, nil, 'j_riff_raff')
                sendInfoMessage("Card Created!", "InfoLogger")
                card:add_to_deck()
                card:set_edition({
                    negative = true
                })
                card:set_eternal(true)
                G.jokers:emplace(card)
        return true; end}))```

[solid salmon]

Before you get mad at me i did read the book to chapter 6

nvm

[fallen tendon]

Thanks so much!!!!

So now can you tell me what a boolean is?

[outer hedge]

it's a thing that's either true or false

[fallen tendon]

I was talking to @solid salmon

Well guess i need a different easy question now

[solid salmon]

looking at my notes

its a true or false values

like Print(true)

[fallen tendon]

Ok

What is an index in a table?

[solid salmon]

I need to get better notes of that

[fallen tendon]

Its the label for the data in the table

When constructing a table, its the first part, {index = value}

[solid salmon]

1 =red

2= gren

3= blue

like that?

[fallen tendon]

Ye

1 2 and 3 are indicies

You can get their value by doing table[index]

[solid salmon]

alright

[fallen tendon]

How do you do concatenation?

[solid salmon]

a = hello

[fallen tendon]

No

That is defining a variable

[solid salmon]

bascially the ..

[fallen tendon]

Oh ok

if x > 2 then
   y = 5
else
   if x > 1 then
      y = 2
   end
end

How would you make this with only 1 end?

[solid salmon]

i need better notes of that

[fallen tendon]

Its contained inside the book

Maybe try visiting the page for the things that are making the ends neccesary

[solid salmon]

ok

imma go back to fixing my mod

[fallen tendon]

Well im glad you know lua a bit more

Maybe you might be able to figure out why your syntax isnt correct

[solid salmon]

I mean it's getting easier now

so yeah it does help

[fallen tendon]

I would reccomend you try looking at the game code again with your new knowledge

You might understand a lot more

[solid salmon]

That's what i am doing

also debug doesn't work for me

[fallen tendon]

???

The crash reports?

Or is it the debug messages

Those are on the lovely command screen that pops up

[solid salmon]

no im using 1.0.0

and seems to only work for 0.9.8

[fallen tendon]

Yeah uh it works

And you still didnt answer which one it was

[solid salmon]

it doesn't work for me

[rough furnace]

What isn't working?

[solid salmon]

debug

[rough furnace]

Debug mode?

[solid salmon]

ye

[rough furnace]

Is there an fps counter in the top right?

[solid salmon]

i gotta check

No

it just shows the red !

[rough furnace]

Oh

I thought 1.0 enabled debug mode by default, but if not, I know debug plus works on it as well

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1228149931257237664

[solid salmon]

do i just download the source code

[rough furnace]

Yeah and stick it in the mod folder

[solid salmon]

i did that

but no fps count

[rough furnace]

Try holding tab

[solid salmon]

nope

[rough furnace]

What's the folder for debug plus look like?

[solid salmon]

DebugPlus-Master

[rough furnace]

Make sure it's only one level

[solid salmon]

now it has one level

now it works

back to work

could rocket be a good base for the yellow deck joker

[fallen tendon]

Yeah

Try to find the part that triggers on boss blind defeat

[solid salmon]

apparently it's this

[fallen tendon]

Yup

[solid salmon]

but everytime i try it

the game crashes

[fallen tendon]

What are you using it in?

[solid salmon]

this may be stupid

[fallen tendon]

Ok the big joker table doesnt have a curly bracket

And you have an unnecessary comma

[solid salmon]

ooooh

wait

[fallen tendon]

You should maybe try to pull your ease dollars code from a joker that gives money directly

[solid salmon]

like golden

[fallen tendon]

Yup those are your issues

You need a little more critical thinking with finding syntax errors

The crash log gives the exact line that the error is occuring in

So you should just double check everything around there

[solid salmon]

it says 115

[fallen tendon]

You didnt give me the line numbers

[solid salmon]

full image

[lusty epoch]

I don't think you have a config

did you forget that

[solid salmon]

ah

[fallen tendon]

Yeah

Instead of asking us the instant something goes wrong

Look at the line number on the crash log

[lusty epoch]

I also see a few issues with it's effect in general

what is it supposed to do in the first place

[fallen tendon]

Give 12 dollars when boss blind is defeated

Oh i kinda realized

That needs to have the blind defeated context

[solid salmon]

i saw it

[lusty epoch]

yeah you don't need line 115 in that case

that would make it scale by +12

plus ease_dollars was hardcoded so it won't even do anything lmao

[fallen tendon]

Try to steal code smartly

Dont just completely take an entire jokers code, take only the pieces that are relevant

[solid salmon]

okay

[rough furnace]

Isn't there a payout api for this?

[edgy reef]

calc_dollar_bonus iirc

[quasi kettle]

Does anyone have an example for modifying an existing joker? None of the examples modify existing and I can modify the calculate code I can’t manage to change the description for a card

[frosty dock]

For Steamodded 1.0 or 0.9.8?

[quasi kettle]

Working on 0.9.8 but either would be helpful

[frosty dock]

for 0.9.8, you need SMODS.Joker:take_ownership('joker'):register(), then modify whatever you need inside SMODS.Jokers['j_joker'], where j_joker is the key of whatever joker you're trying to modify

to change the description, you can set a loc_txt on it

[frosty dock]

it's slightly different for 1.0, you don't need the register call, and whatever changes you need on the joker go directly in the call as a second argument

SMODS.Joker:take_ownership('joker', {
  loc_txt = {
    -- description text goes here
  }
})

[quasi kettle]

Tysm I was so confused why I was able to modify the code but not the description but that makes sense

[frosty dock]

for 0.9.8 only, you can also change the description text directly via G.localization.descriptions.Joker.j_joker

[solid salmon]

I literally can't

[frosty dock]

that's thunk wonkiness

G.GAME.blind.boss is converted to a boolean for some reason

you need the config object instead

that is G.GAME.blind.config.blind.boss

[solid salmon]

so put config.blind

[frosty dock]

and yes that's atrocious

but that's how it is

[solid salmon]

ok

https://tenor.com/view/daeth-funi-periflight-dies-from-gif-22212023

it works

but

no money

[zealous glen]

How do I test if the round's current Boss is a Showdown Boss?

I thought the value of G.GAME.round_resets.blind_choices.Boss.showdown would tell but it didn't

[solid salmon]

is there a thing called G.C.MONEY?

what does this mean?

I know its a syntax error

but still

[rough furnace]

Probably your ide thinks the variable G is not defined

[frosty dock]

just during the Boss blind or for this ante?

[zealous glen]

G is table that contains the table C that contains some value YELLOW that corresponds to a color defined by thunk or yourself

[zealous glen]

For the ante

I want to reroll if it's not a Showdown Boss

[frosty dock]

G.GAME.round_resets.blind_choices.Boss.config.boss.showdown, probably

if I know anything about blind choices having a config which is the proto blind object

but I was just going to bed and won't bother confirming

[solid salmon]

bruh but what makes

[zealous glen]

I thought it would've been Boss.showdown because the return of get_new_boss() is stored there, which I thought would've been an object with that attribute

[solid salmon]

different from

[zealous glen]

probably G.C.YELLOW doesn't exist

[solid salmon]

how can i make it exist?

[frosty dock]

I don't think blind choices work like that

[zealous glen]

wait maybe it's Boss.boss.showdown

[wintry solar]

You need a curly bracket after yellow

But also

Your return is broken

[zealous glen]

What do you mean?

also neither of ours worked

[solid salmon]

how so

[wintry solar]

you say return variable {table

also money isn't a thing

[solid salmon]

dollars

[wintry solar]

no

money_mod = money this is completely broken

[solid salmon]

saying that money isn't thing

[solid salmon]

makes that true

[wintry solar]

no, like, you're just making up variable names randomly

the code can't read your mind

[solid salmon]

oh

[wintry solar]

you have to give it precise instructions

if you ask it to do something using something you haven't told it, it will break

if you give it instructions formatted in a different way to what it expects, it will break

[solid salmon]

is it possible to just

not have color?

[wintry solar]

the colour isn't the main problem

[solid salmon]

the _mod

[wintry solar]

the _mod, the money, the brackets, the return

almost everything else

the colour is fine

[solid salmon]

brb

[zealous glen]

@frosty dock No config. It turns out G.GAME.round_resets.blind_choices.Boss is just a string and one needs to use that string as the key to G.P_BLINDS to manually retrieve the data

[solid salmon]

how could i make the _mod

[wintry solar]

look at how the game already does similar effects

I mean, it won't complain at you using money_mod, it just won't do anything

[zealous glen]

New Joker:

Champion's Belt
X2.5 Mult
Bosses are harder!

[solid salmon]

wait is the message even needed?

[wintry solar]

why don't you try and figure it out yourself?

[zealous glen]

New Joker:

Lvl. ? Death
X3 Mult if level of played hand is a multiple of 3

@solemn coral's Joker reminded me of DotA 2's Doom's old ability which was a reference to a Final Fantasy ability

[wintry solar]

I'm sure these jokers are great but none of your videos load for me

[tepid egret]

newest steamodded alpha does this on startup, it worked with the version from like a couple weeks ago, is there any quick fix? (btw whats happening is that the main file tries to load a different file in the mod directory with require)

[zealous glen]

Skill issue

But sometimes I also have Discord video loading issues

especially on mobile

[wintry solar]

I'm pretty sure require needs to be replaced with NFS.load

[tepid egret]

hm i guess thats new

thx for the answer tho, ill try it out

yup that fixed it

thanks a lot!

[solemn coral]

Wasn't even thinking of that when I made the joker, but I love the reference!

Funnily enough, TWEWY has a reference to that same ability with Minamimoto's Level i Flare, which hits all targets whose levels are divisible by i (which would be any number real or imaginary)

[zealous glen]

When I'm in a field and I try to divide by a nonzero number:

I thought the requirement of being level 2 was interesting though difficult, which quickly led me to think about Doom's old ability

[solemn coral]

Yeah I'm debating about changing my requirement to any level 2 or greater instead of exactly 2

Still different enough from your idea that I'd enjoy playing with both!

[zealous glen]

I think 2 or greater makes it too easy. Well, maybe not too easy, but less interesting. I think making it a multiple is a good middle ground. I don't know what I would advise you—if you think 2 is too hard, 2 or greater is fine

[solemn coral]

Multiple of 2 feels too similar to your idea. Maybe keep it at exactly 2, but scale it up to x2.5 Mult?

[zealous glen]

I mean I don’t mind it being similar if that’s what’s bothering you

[solemn coral]

Nah, I just want to jokers that force you to approach them in different ways

[zealous glen]

I think that making it exactly 2 is more interesting if you can reduce levels

For example

Anther Joker idea which I have to port to 1.0.0 grants 2 levels to a random hand and -1 level to another random hand

https://tenor.com/view/bidoof-pokemon-dance-dancing-gif-22183580

(IIRC Bidoof gets Moody)

[solemn coral]

Oooh, good idea about reducing levels. I'll try to throw in a joker or two that does that in my mod

[zealous glen]

Cryptid also had a way to reset levels

IIRC

[solid salmon]

so i tried this

[zealous glen]

Localization options: English, Portuguese, and French!

[solemn coral]

Is there a way to use the create_card(_type, area, legendary, _rarity, skip_materialize, soulable, forced_key, key_append) to create a playing card of a specific rank, but still with a random suit?

If not, is there a way to make one with a specific rank and suit, and I'll just manually randomize the suit?

[zealous glen]

Yes

Do what the Numbers Spectral does but for ranks

I mean, the suits are already random, so actually

Just copy Grim

[solemn coral]

Oh duh why didn't I think of looking there

[zealous glen]

Balatro modders when they want to mod: “wait that’s already in-game”

It’s me I’m Balatro modders

Luckily I didn’t fall to that trap earlier today when I noticed I didn’t need to inject into the boss reroll function to make it free

[solid salmon]

I am going to lose my mind

[solemn coral]

Has anyone else had an issue where lovely patches would keep being active even when they shouldn't?

[crisp coral]

how so?

[solemn coral]

I wrote some lines in a patch, tested them and found they didn't work, deleted those lines (but not the whole patch), and when I'm reloading the game it's still giving me that error

[crisp coral]

did you save the patch??

[solemn coral]

Yes, it says it's all saved

[crisp coral]

weird

[solemn coral]

Maybe not?

Just reloaded the game again and it's working this time

Weird.

[solemn coral]

Okay, it's working for some definition of working

[edgy reef]

Blinds are starting to get on my nerves.

[solemn coral]

I'm trying to make a joker that sets all cards in Standard Packs to your last played high card value, and I think something went wrong.

[edgy reef]

How are you creating the effect?

[solemn coral]

pattern = '''card = create_card((pseudorandom(pseudoseed('stdset'..G.GAME.round_resets.ante)) > 0.6) and "Enhanced" or "Base", G.pack_cards, nil, nil, nil, true, nil, 'sta')'''
position = "at"
payload = '''
if G.GAME.twewy_playmate_beam > 0 then
    _suit = pseudorandom_element({'S','H','D','C'}, pseudoseed('playmate'))
    card = create_playing_card({
        front =  G.P_CARDS[_suit..'_'..6],
        center = G.P_CENTERS.c_base}, G.pack_cards, nil, nil, nil)
else
    card = create_card((pseudorandom(pseudoseed('stdset'..G.GAME.round_resets.ante)) > 0.6) and "Enhanced" or "Base", G.pack_cards, nil, nil, nil, true, nil, 'sta')
end
'''```

(Right now it only creates 6s, I'll get it to read the actual value soon)

[crisp coral]

add the super thing to your process_loc_txt

[edgy reef]

Super thing? The 'k_na'?

That's in my en-us.lua file.

Also loaded with the same key in D6 Jokers so even if it failed it should show up anyways.

[crisp coral]

im not fucking joking

you have to do thos

lmao

[edgy reef]

???

HUH

[crisp coral]

it's stupid

but you have to do this

[edgy reef]

Uhm

Is there a issue with this on Steamodded yet?

This should probably be addressed xdd.

[crisp coral]

not that i'm aware of

[solid salmon]

hey myst

[crisp coral]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[edgy reef]

LMFAO

[solid salmon]

can you help me with something that is currently outside my current skills in lua programming

[crisp coral]

just. say what your issue is.

[solid salmon]

game crash when me want moneu

...

[edgy reef]

Card is capitalized, it should be card

[solid salmon]

i keep forgetting

it's case sensitive

[crisp coral]

post your entire code around line 29

[crisp coral]

is. is this

fucking outside

💀

put that in the loc_vars function

[solid salmon]

like this?

[crisp coral]

you don't seed to check for name

otherwise, looks fine

[solid salmon]

so remove the name?

[solemn coral]

You remove the if statement that checks for the name

[solid salmon]

IT FINALLY WORKS

🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉 🎉

i can sleep now

GN

[sly forge]

Everyone- don't use self.super, it's actually wrong. use the explicit name of the class

self.super is the superclass of self, which could be a deep subclass of your object's class

[crisp coral]

if it works it works

:clueless:

[abstract venture]

chat how do i check rarity of cards

i thought it was this but it aint doing anything when i have a rare card

even taking out ability dont do it

[edgy reef]

Have you tried the card's center?

That should have the rarity.

G.jokers.cards[i].config.center.rarity

[barren urchin]

.

[abstract venture]

ohh ok i can try that

that makes more sense

it didnt

im using steamodded 0.9.8 btw idk if its different on that

[edgy reef]

Are you sure it's that line that's the problem?

It's basically how Baseball Card does it but context.other_joker would be the same as G.jokers.cards[i]

[abstract venture]

ah

[edgy reef]

So it should work unless something else is wrong

[abstract venture]

yea im making a baseball-esque joker

yea

[edgy reef]

What is the effect btw?

[abstract venture]

x2 for every rare but that might be too strong 😭 but im at least trying it

heres the full thing

last thing is just checking if its debuffed

when i didnt check for count > 0 it would display x1

so it still gave the mult it was just not getting any count

¯_(ツ)_/¯

ty tho

[rough furnace]

Thoughts

ooh I just had a good idea

[edgy reef]

YOO

[abstract venture]

yo???

[rough furnace]

I'll probably not show the mass of steamodded stuff that happens before it can show, but then it shows all logs temporarily as it happens

Also this lets me do this for free

Should I enable the log showing thing by default?

[zealous glen]

How do you access the class of self to access its subclass then?

[sly forge]

you don't- the class of self is always constant. you'd write SMODS.Blind.super.process_loc_text(self)

or similar

[zealous glen]

superclass*

[zealous glen]

But what if you don’t know the class of self and it’s not a subclass of Blind?

[sly forge]

if it's not a subclass of Blind, then your function wouldn't be called in the first place

actually, it might not be SMODS.Blind depending on what Myst meant to do. if it was for an object of class Blind then it'd be SMODS.Blind.process_loc_text(self)

but, the main point I wanted to say is that self's class is whatever it is, so self.super is always wrong and can cause an infinite loop if you're not careful

[frosty dock]

It won't cause an infinite loop, since self.super is never the object's own class

however if you extend a class that uses self.super in a function, and you don't change that function in the subclass (as is the case with SMODS.Center.process_loc_text, for example), that function will be called twice

e.g. the method on SMODS.Joker is called, then self.super refers to SMODS.Center, which has the same exact method declared

[sly forge]

I keep forgetting that objects are actually different from classes, unlike javascript

[frosty dock]

they aren't

it's all tables

[sly forge]

the way they are implemented means they are

[frosty dock]

but super doesn't change on objects

[sly forge]

I mean, super on an object isn't the object's class, it's the object's class's superclass

in javascript it's just a chain of prototypes

specifically the way Balatro's object code is implemented means the relationship between an object and a class ends up different from the relationship between a subclass and a class

[frosty dock]

use getmetatable and you get the same javascript relation

[sly forge]

there's differences in how underscore methods are handled in the two cases

bunch of subtle details

[frosty dock]

the metatable chain goes object -> class -> superclass, while super cuts directly to the superclass

[sly forge]

yes, that's what I mean

ok, we are maybe talking about the same thing, sorry

[solemn coral]

Question about data being saved between exiting and reloading the game - I was told that anything you write to G.GAME would be safe and stay there even if the game was closed and reopened. However, I'm looking at the Codex Arcanum mod to see how creating temporary cards works, and it looks like they're writing to G.deck.config. Is that also a safe place to write to?

[crisp coral]

cardareas are also safe

(jokers, consumeables, deck, etc.)

[solemn coral]

Aha, makes sense. Thank you!

[zealous glen]

I want to make a temporary card API because temporary cards are a bit unintuitive

AFAIK temporary cards need a variable to track that they’re temporary, and you can’t remember specific cards, but I haven’t looked at how Codex does it

I mean, not that they need it, it’s just that the obvious alternative doesn’t work very well since you can’t remember specific cards

I also wanted a shader for temporary cards

[frosty dock]

can't you just have some flag like card.ability.temporary?

[zealous glen]

That’s what I said

[frosty dock]

ah alright

[solemn coral]

Oh I would love that. Right now it looks like what CA is doing should be working, but definitely having a full API for it would be better.

[frosty dock]

I wasn't sure what you meant by not being able to remember specific cards

[zealous glen]

card.ability.extra.memory = some_card

[frosty dock]

ah

doesn't that also have the issue of no longer being temporary if the other card is sold

[zealous glen]

That’s not an issue

That’s a feature

[frosty dock]

that's unintuitive at best

[zealous glen]

No?

When round starts, create CARD
When round ends, destroy CARD

It’s very intuitive it isn’t destroyed it the source of the effect isn’t present

[frosty dock]

if phrased like that, it is

[solemn coral]

The way CA makes its temp cards is with its Alchemic Cards, which don't really exist to be present at the end of the round since they're consumables.

So I wouldn't really find that intuitive

[frosty dock]

if cards are created with a temporary property, their source shouldn't matter

[zealous glen]

Create a temporary CARD
is different from the aforementioned effect

[frosty dock]

ik

[zealous glen]

But I don’t know a good way of implementing it

[frosty dock]

i mean it can be a sticker

[zealous glen]

And by good I mean O(1)

[zealous glen]

I was just going to staple a shader on top

And make it not copiable by default

[solemn coral]

I was thinking if I needed to show the effect I could look at the badges that LobCorp uses for some jokers like the ||Wee Witch's Gifts||

[frosty dock]

by that I mean using the sticker API

it can't be O(1) if the source matters unless the card knows its own source

[zealous glen]

What for 🤔

[frosty dock]

whatever

[zealous glen]

I wanted the source to know the card. The card knowing the source isn’t O(1), it’s still O(n)

[frosty dock]

that is if the source destroys the card

not if the card destroys itself

[zealous glen]

Yeah

Why would the card destroy itself

[frosty dock]

because it may be wanted behavior to destroy the card even if the source is destroyed?

[zealous glen]

Then you don’t need to remember the source

And it doesn’t need to be the card, it can be the game rules destroying the card

[frosty dock]

by the card destroying itself, I mean an effect initialized by the existence of the card, not the source

if you take it too far, it's always the game rules doing something

[zealous glen]

I think saying that a card does something if its calculate function is ran it’s intuitive

And likewise for other functions like set_ability, etc.

But otherwise it’s another game object

[frosty dock]

in the same way there's calculate_rental called from end_round

this is sort of comparable

[zealous glen]

I wasn’t thinking of implementing calculate_temporary but maybe it makes sense

I figured more complex end of round behaviour could piggyback off Enhancement API

Like cards that are temporary but last multiple rounds

[solid salmon]

is there something like this

but for hand size?

[tepid egret]

any of you know where the code is that causes that little popup on the side to show up when you unlock a joker/deck?

[crisp coral]

create_UIBox_notify_alert

in UI_definitions.lua

[solid salmon]

Hey myst how do I modify hand size?

[tepid egret]

thanks bud

[crisp coral]

G.hand.config.card_limit

or something like that

[solid salmon]

Ok

[hallow forge]

the manacle actually uses a function for changing hand size

[tepid egret]

wait i wanted to click that

[hallow forge]

that was fast

[tepid egret]

[hallow forge]

that's a horrible idea

obv a scam of some sorts

[solid salmon]

le scamme

[crisp coral]

it's funny as shit though

[tepid egret]

nah im sure that person had my best interest in mind

[solid salmon]

Don't you remember yesterday

[hallow forge]

they had intrest in collecting intrest from your bank account

[vivid eagle]

please don't

[tepid egret]

i do remember yesterday

[solid salmon]

Ok painted jonkler works

[surreal marsh]

why adding consumable to joker slots can't work and why G.jokers.cards[5] isn't nil but G.jokers.cards[i] where i=5 is nil 😭 MAGIC

[crisp coral]

i love lua jank

[hallow forge]

lua won't give you an error for getting an invalid index of a table. it will give you an error for trying to use it as if it weren't nil tho.

[surreal marsh]

look at this, card5 outside loop isn't nil but car5 inside loop is nil

[hallow forge]

you cropped out part of the error

[surreal marsh]

ohh you changed your name

[oblique gust]

guys feel free to ping myst on reply

[crisp coral]

i am going to kill you

[surreal marsh]

the error is because G.jokers.cards[5] is nil

[oblique gust]

https://tenor.com/view/escape-gif-5626762

[hallow forge]

okay but looking at the error is helpful

[surreal marsh]

this is from :calculate_joker because G.jokers.cards[5] is nil

[hallow forge]

okay

why is it supposed to not be nil

[surreal marsh]

card5 is not nil

[hallow forge]

how do you know?

[surreal marsh]

ohh 🤔 so cards[5] is gone when looping through i=1 to i=4

i'm soooooooo stupid 😭

[hallow forge]

what?

[surreal marsh]

card5=G.jokers.cards[5] is executed out of loop and its value is not nil

so jokers.cards[5] exists before loop

but when i=5 jokers.cards[5] becomes nil

[floral elk]

no

[hallow forge]

that wont create an error

variables are allowed to have nil values

the issue is trying to index them, since nil isn't a table

[floral elk]

you can do if card5 ~= nil then ... end

[surreal marsh]

😭

[hallow forge]

well

yeah idk

[floral elk]

then it could be another nil value

[surreal marsh]

what is another nil value

[floral elk]

I mean it could be another expression in the loop that is nil

[hallow forge]

bte this is in button_callbacks

*btw

[floral elk]

the error only says line and that a nil value was indexed

not which expression held the nil value

so the assumption that card5 is nil is not the only possible meaning of that error

[surreal marsh]

dump file

[floral elk]

wait why is it i or 0?

[hallow forge]

if car is nil it prints i otherwise it prints 0

[floral elk]

yes but why

[surreal marsh]

im just testing if car5 is nil

[floral elk]

so somehow car ~= nil, but is chain of custody is from G.jokers.cards[i], and yet G.jokers.cards[i] is nil?

[surreal marsh]

and the result is this

[surreal marsh]

car isn't nil from i=1 to i=4 and when i=5 car and car5 are nil

[floral elk]

the dump u just gave says the exact opposite

[languid mirage]

no

[solid salmon]

do i just remove the boss from this to just make it work for blinds

wait lemme check first

[floral elk]

ah right, I was reading it as car~=nil not car==nil

because usually that's what you do with a cond and v or d expression

[surreal marsh]

[frosty dock]

.. what

a blind's boss table isn't a cardarea

[floral elk]

also I'd be sus of reference equality being used to classify things that could be cloned/proxied

[languid mirage]

isn't it possible to just do something like for index, card in pairs(G.jokers.cards) and see what index value is when it hits 5 in the loop

(Idk lua just guessing from what I saw previously)

[solid salmon]

i need to adjust it

wait it works for yellow

[surreal marsh]

i use for i=1,#G.jokers.cards do because previously without my loop game crashed on line 501

so I added a loop to test

[floral elk]

aside: ||not usually a good idea to use pairs unless the metatable is made so that the __pairs is deterministic iteration order||

[languid mirage]

I mean for debugging

[surreal marsh]

and just now I removed local effects line and car5 is not nil

[floral elk]

assuming the cards field is an array sort of thing then ipairs will work up to the first nil value

# can technically report any value

[surreal marsh]

so actually G.jokers.cards[4]:calculate_joker sets G.jokers.cards[5] to nil

[floral elk]

not necessarily the last non-nil contiguous index from 1

[solid salmon]

it works for yellow but not magic

this works

[floral elk]

surely that conditional never passes

[frosty dock]

.

[floral elk]

I'll trust what aure says, I have no idea about how the game's internal model works, I'm just general purpose lua

but generally reference equality is a bad idea

[frosty dock]

the game tends to use reference equality for cardareas

like context.cardarea == G.jokers

[floral elk]

it should use an enum/id system instead :(

[crisp coral]

too bad, moment™️

[solid salmon]

why doesn't this work

[frosty dock]

but if one thing is a card area and the other one is a table that looks like { min = 1, max = 10 }

they will never be the same table

same thing

you have two objects

one is of the class Blind

one is of the class CardArea

they have different metatables, so they surely aren't the same thing

[solid salmon]

do i have to put the card name

[floral elk]

oh yeah?

local a = context.cardarea
for k,v in pairs(a)
  a[k] = nil
end
a.min = 1
a.max = 10
setmetatable(a,Blind)

how much would the game die

[solid salmon]

also this worked for yellow deck joker

[frosty dock]

I'm telling you it didn't

[frosty dock]

crash guaranteed

[solid salmon]

IT DID

[crisp coral]

what the fuck

[solid salmon]

i tried it

[surreal marsh]

does your "DID" mean "didn't crash" 🤔

[crisp coral]

it works because context.cardarea and G.GAME.blind.config.boss were both nil

[solid salmon]

ye

or did as it worked

[floral elk]

anyway if this is true then you can't do those actions in a loop

u will need some kind of concurrency policy

[surreal marsh]

i know and the fourth joker isn't mine

[solid salmon]

SUS

[floral elk]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[solid salmon]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[crisp coral]

okay you didn't need to ping them again

[solid salmon]

ok

[frosty dock]

kil

[livid scroll]

🔫

[crisp coral]

kil

[solid salmon]

🔫

[frosty dock]

ty

[grand violet]

Thanks cool

very cool

[solid salmon]

anyways

[livid scroll]

yeah discord was wigging out in actually delteing message after ban

[crisp coral]

thank you discord very cool

[grand violet]

As it does

[floral elk]

maybe we need to ping one more time, just for good measure

[frosty dock]

very discord of it

[floral elk]

😈

[grand violet]

Did you know

[floral elk]

yes

[grand violet]

If you ping mods three times in a row really fast you unlock a secret sticker

you become Perishable

[solid salmon]

if context.cardarea doesn't work

[grand violet]

and will be sold within 5 seconds

[crisp coral]

no way

[floral elk]

perish the thought

[solid salmon]

then does self.ability.name work?

[grand violet]

Anyway, I'll leave so y'all can get back on topic

[crisp coral]

cya egg

[grand violet]

ping me if anyone manages to make a Joker with the word "tetrated" in its rules text balanced

[frosty dock]

I'll use debug and make myself eternal instead

[solid salmon]

🥚

[surreal marsh]

cryptid stakes: 😈

[crisp coral]

[lobcorp mod spoilers in case someone cares] how much do you bet this works first try

[floral elk]

it's balanced if you are confined to the open unit disc in the complex plane (http://davidbau.com/conformal/#iter(z'^z%2Cz%2C6))

[frosty dock]

I'll bet 2 jimballs

[crisp coral]

i'll take your two jimballs because it worked first try

[frosty dock]

⚾ ⚾

[frosty dock]

wdym i won

[crisp coral]

damn

i also kinda reimplemented the compat ui because the one thunk implemented is... really inefficient for some reason

[hallow forge]

ive created a blind which permanantly messes with your deck

[frosty dock]

🧩

[surreal marsh]

jimbo sticker

[solid salmon]

maybe i'm stupid, maybe i'm missing one thing, but somethings off

[hallow forge]

might make them randomize upon draw as well to combat abusing these cards for held in hand effects

and note puzzled is compatible with editions, enhancements, and seals so you can't ever remove it from a card

[shell timber]

+50 chips. lose the game when your mult is tetrated

[crisp coral]

nvm i found an edge case

time to die

[surreal marsh]

tetrate your mult only if your mult equals 1

[hallow forge]

Tetrated Joker - +4 Mult

[floral elk]

@frosty dock is there a standard for that in the mod community?

e.g. let's say a joker modifies other jokers

it should probably wait for some kind of event to do that

instead of immediately

btw I don't play this game, I'm just musing on like general lua mod API stuff

[solid salmon]

i changed it from self to card and it works

[frosty dock]

just putting it in an event should do

[solid salmon]

well

[frosty dock]

dagger works like this

[solid salmon]

it doesn't crash but no fool

[floral elk]

if it did it immediately then that can result in an infinite frametime

like recursive effects that don't cache eachother

game just crashes due to memory swell/hang

that kind of thing

[frosty dock]

yeah

using an event should solve that

[floral elk]

right so the idea is to have a standard for it

cus clearly that joker[4]

isn't doing a nice thing

[crisp coral]

dear god why does context.individual have a different return format

[floral elk]

(asssuming that was the correct conclusion to make)

[crisp coral]

killing myself

time to reimplement eval_this!!!!

[frosty dock]

||better_calc||

[surreal marsh]

actually it's not the joker[4], it's joker[5] the consumable card and it destroyed itself

i think

[crisp coral]

okay but that assumes everyone who plays my shit also switches to that branch

[floral elk]

well idk your debugging strats are not getting clear results

I would be putting a breakpoint there but supposedly that's evil or smth here

[solid salmon]

how do i make it give a specific tarot

[frosty dock]

just wait for it to get merged

[solid salmon]

then how do i make it work

for just a tarot

[floral elk]

I don't think trying things over and over is gonna get you very far

u should try to figure out how the data is structured

[solid salmon]

i am

[crisp coral]

oh okay better_calc is literally what i need rn

i'm going to die

[solemn coral]

I feel like I might have done something a bit wrong here...

[crisp coral]

LMAO

[sonic mortar]

legalised money printer

[crisp coral]

4 jimbos are worth $540

amazing

[surreal marsh]

I want to make the effect of when clicking play button, use consumable cards in joker slots on the hand first, and then play the hand. However after consumable cards are used the hand area pops up strangely. My expectation is after using the tarot the hand area pops up, and when the hand is played the area moves down again. So how to control the movement of hand area 🤔

[solid salmon]

how do i buff editions?

[royal ridge]

good old context.individual

always there even if you don't need em 😌

[fast badge]

infinite money, i dont see the problem.

[surreal marsh]

How can this solve the problem 😭 (not fully solved since highlighted cards are removed after tarot cards are used but hand area moves perfectly)

[floral elk]

why nest event?

[surreal marsh]

i dont know

also vanilla game has nest event

[floral elk]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[surreal marsh]

moment

[surreal marsh]

🪨

[solid salmon]

Betmma you legally have to help me with this

[surreal marsh]

really

[solid salmon]

Idk

[surreal marsh]

is this a deck

[crisp coral]

betmma doesn't have to do anything

[solid salmon]

yes

[solid salmon]

i know that

i wasn't seriously gonna force them to do it

[surreal marsh]

i know nothing about deck 😔

[solid salmon]

ok

[hallow forge]

decks, you say?

[solid salmon]

yes

[solid salmon]

but instead of this being random im just gonna make diamond do that

i also don't know how to make decks

[surreal marsh]

🎉

[solid salmon]

huh

1776$!!!

that is very cursed

[rough furnace]

Jimbo nooooooooo

[solid salmon]

Money accelerator

Look at denvers deck ideas

[edgy reef]

F R E A K Y deck

[solid salmon]

Imma die

he also wants it to be compatible with betmma's vouchers

so how the hell do i make a deck?

[surreal marsh]

[solid salmon]

What the hell

[languid mirage]

That's cursed

[solid salmon]

Betmma decks confirmed?!?!

[solid salmon]

placeholder

[rough furnace]

Is that a song reference?

[solid salmon]

ye

kind of

i wasn't aware ngl

Now how do i make all (insert suit) into (insert enhancements)

[fallen tendon]

Just try to use your head

Where in the code might you find something that checks if a card is a certain suit?

Where would you find something that gives a card an enhancement?

[rough furnace]

What's a good key bind to toggle the console preview thing (as seen here https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1233186615086813277/1255387692401950750/2024-06-25_23-01-54.mp4?ex=667cf265&is=667ba0e5&hm=c3ab5703146d69b2169124ae0a18cbb7c26b46a0324db68d07887b4db8f08030&)

[fallen tendon]

c?

p?

[rough furnace]

C is duplicate card

[frosty dock]

is L unused?

[rough furnace]

P is a built in thing idk what it does

L is unused

Also ` is open the full console

[frosty dock]

that works then, as in log

[rough furnace]

Maybe just a shift `

Or ctrl

Wait no L is load run

[frosty dock]

` is nonstandard on international keyboards

[rough furnace]

It's the default source one

[frosty dock]

whatever then

[rough furnace]

But unlike source I don't have remapping

Idk what would be best for the console

[frosty dock]

idk what's used

D as in debug?

[rough furnace]

https://github.com/WilsontheWolf/DebugPlus/blob/master/keys.txt

[rough furnace]

Maybe I get rid of the live test and make it space

(Cause live test doesn't seem useful to non people)

I'll have to see how it feels too

[frosty dock]

maybe T

[surreal marsh]

should play 15 cards in the final hand 🤔

[rough furnace]

T could be good

[frosty dock]

could stand for terminal, good enough imo

[rough furnace]

Yeah

But there's no command execution rn

So it's much more of a console

[frosty dock]

good enough

[rough furnace]

True

Maybe I just make it slash like slash commands and then I go and implement a command runner

[frosty dock]

also my 'restart game' shortcut of holding q should maybe get changed to not conflict with cycling editions

again, ideally working through lovely and not steam

[rough furnace]

I mean I've pretty much taken up the entire left side of the keyboard

Also the cycle editions isn't a hold action

[frosty dock]

ik but it's still the same key

[rough furnace]

Yeah

I guess that is a stock debug action too

[frosty dock]

not too important though

[frosty dock]

doesn't apply to mine

[rough furnace]

R would be good if it wasn't already restart run

[frosty dock]

I would have already liked to have R for reloading mods

[rough furnace]

I mean on title screen it could

[frosty dock]

which reminds me that reloading mods can break sometimes during a run and I need to fix that

[zealous glen]

/run Minecraft

[frosty dock]

it doesn't exit to menu before reloading because events

[rough furnace]

Also would people be interested if I made an api for mods to implement commands for the console?

Or should I just make it only eval lua code

I guess I could include a few commands like setting a few variables and such

[frosty dock]

command API is useful if there are commands at all, I guess

wait does that mean SMODS-independent APIs?

[crisp coral]

@royal ether what do you think of this

[rough furnace]

Yeah this would be a debug plus api

But I'll make sure it plays nice if debug plus isn't around

[solid salmon]

i made it not crash

now for the stones

[royal ether]

maybe ill do more smods stuff if i can use a console on it 👍

[zealous glen]

woohoo

[crisp coral]

yippee

[zealous glen]

L Corp

[solid salmon]

where do i find the tower within the game files

[fallen tendon]

Actually not sure

[wild gyro]

card.lua maybe

[crisp coral]

search for mod_conv

[solid salmon]

?

how the heck can i apply it to every initial heart suit card within the deck

[solemn coral]

Find where the deck is stored as a table of cards, then use a for loop to loop over each card in the deck.

If the card is a heart, make that card a stone card.

[crisp coral]

you don't. do what parchment said instead

[solid salmon]

so copy all the cards but make hearts -> stone

i can't find the decks source code

[crisp coral]

back.lua

[solid salmon]

ok

[solid salmon]

i copied from checkered

[rough furnace]

I feel like your missing a function definition or smth there

[solid salmon]

so it works but i don't have the right thing to turn it into stone

imma search

[fallen tendon]

You could try to look at cryptid’s enhancement decks

[solid salmon]

ok

[brisk pond]

someone has these functions ready?

function createRandomPlanet()
function createPlanetForLastHandPlayed(normal or negative)

or do I need to search the base code?

[frosty dock]

vanilla code has these -> high priestess / blue seal

[brisk pond]

thanks

[solid salmon]

Am i allowed to steal borrow jellymods code?

[royal ether]

jellymod is the last mod you should learn from

its incompatible with every single mod

[solid salmon]

then just make it compatible

[fallen tendon]

Its the worst coded mod in existence

Dont even touch it

It crashes soooo much

[solid salmon]

ok

[wintry solar]

sound perfect for ai gen goku then (:

[solid salmon]

dude

Anyways back to making enhancements

[solid salmon]

wait are editions made the same way as enhancements?

and if so where can i find it within the game files

[brisk pond]

how can I have my jokers' probabilities be changed by cards like Oops all Sixes?

[fallen tendon]

Have fun making the shader

[solid salmon]

dude i'm the coder not the artist

[brisk pond]

Right now this is my Joker

SMODS.Joker { -- 01.1 Mercurius
    key = 'Mercurius',
    loc_txt = {
        ['default'] = {
            name = '{C:blue}Mercurius',
            text = {'Creates a {C:dark_edition}Negative','{C:blue}Planet{} card for','played {C:attention}poker hand','{C:green}1 in 3{} chance to create two'},
            unlock = {'{C:red}Evolve{} the previous','Joker to unlock','this one'},
        },
    },

[fallen tendon]

Oh wait are you applying an edition

[solid salmon]

ye

[fallen tendon]

Idk exact name

Just ctrl f for the edition set function

[solid salmon]

i think it was common events

[brisk pond]

New problem dropped in your favourite thread #1252643810853523577 message

[rough furnace]

There's a variable

Off the top of my head I think it's G.probabilities.normal

[solid salmon]

this is the best edition code that i saw so far

[wintry solar]

Why have you copied the set edition function into your calculate function

[solid salmon]

i was just testing it

[wintry solar]

Testing it for what

[solid salmon]

idk compatibility

and it doesn't crash

do you have a way to properly implement editions?

[wintry solar]

what are you trying to do

[solid salmon]

make an upgraded version of already existing editions

[wintry solar]

are they replacing default editions?

[solid salmon]

with a certain voucher yes

[fallen tendon]

Have fun making a shader

[wintry solar]

^

[fallen tendon]

I mean you could yoink the base game shaders…

[wintry solar]

but if you want the edition docs, here they are

[rough furnace]

Can you take ownership of editions?

[wintry solar]

yes

[rough furnace]

Then it's probably not that hard to change behaviour or whatever?

[wintry solar]

I'm not sure if you could trigger taking ownership off a voucher purchase

[rough furnace]

I mean you just take ownership and then in calculate, if voucher is acquired, then do new behaviour else do default

[wintry solar]

calculate with editions is still super jank

[fallen tendon]

Well it also needs to change the name

[wintry solar]

although I haven't looked into the better-calc branch yet, maybe that fixes it

I think having an alternate edition would be a better solution

and then you'd just need to do a simple swap to the new edition when you look at what poll_edition returns

if you have the voucher

but I would argue the first step to wanting to make an edition is to learn how to make a shader

[rough furnace]

And when buying it, changing existing ones too

[wintry solar]

yeah you cuold do that too

[solid salmon]

what's the shader key?

[wintry solar]

the key for your shader

[solid salmon]

like the color?

[wintry solar]

no

have you read the docs?

[solid salmon]

im reading them

[wintry solar]

then read them all

if you still have questions after that, fire away

[rough furnace]

Why do editions have an atlas?

[wintry solar]

for display in the collection

[rough furnace]

Oh

[solid salmon]

where shall i place the config?

i read some of the instructions and i think it should look like this

[wintry solar]

you see all those squiggly lines?

[solid salmon]

yes i do

i was just about to ask

[wintry solar]

that means you haven't read the instructions carefully enough

[solid salmon]

ok

almost got it

[wintry solar]

okay let's clear a few things up

any of the optional parameters that you aren't changing the value of you don't need

the loc_txt and configs and given an example Skeleton