💻・modding-dev

[frosty dock]

but sure, it's pretty workable

^

[gilded narwhal]

OH I see what you meant by this now

This i mean

Different crash this time 👍

Although now I know steamodded is on 1.0 now

[mellow sable]

delete your settings.jkr file?

wait nvm

I know what this is

verify game integrity

[undone ingot]

bro

whats with all the elif loops 😭

[frosty dock]

did you find calculate_joker hell?

[gilded narwhal]

anything else?

[frosty dock]

should be good

[gilded narwhal]

Because I got the same crash after I did so 😭

[frosty dock]

just to confirm you closed out of the game completely and didn't just press R?

[gilded narwhal]

Yup

I'll try again just for redundancy

Yup same thing

[undone ingot]

wait is it faster to loop elif over all jokers or to create an array and reference it

[frosty dock]

can I see once more what Mods/Steamodded contains?

[gilded narwhal]

Steamodded

[frosty dock]

an array would be asymptotically the same

[gilded narwhal]

Mods

[frosty dock]

doing what steamodded does and just reference a function on the center object is faster though

[undone ingot]

got it, tyty

[frosty dock]

that looks like there's still an 0.x installation interfering

Delete Balatro.exe and verify game files again

[gilded narwhal]

Just .exe?

[frosty dock]

yeah

[gilded narwhal]

Different crash

Although I think I've seen this before

[frosty dock]

that's progress

see if it loads without cryptid

[gilded narwhal]

Yup

It does

[frosty dock]

then just get the latest commit for cryptid as well

[gilded narwhal]

Still crashes

[frosty dock]

@mellow sable a

[gilded narwhal]

I figured it out

I needed talisman

[worldly sapphire]

Alien Cat - Makes Mult Cards act like Steel Cards, But they give additional 10 mult.

its possible to make this work lol?

[mellow sable]

m

[zealous glen]

@worldly sapphire

[leaden belfry]

so, what's the prefix of random planet cards? by my understand of the source it's like Planetpri1 when from that tarot and in ante 1, and should be bugged with the seed that bug all prefix 10, but it seems normal.

[worldly sapphire]

Hmmmm

fascinating 🤩

[mellow sable]

the "bugged" planet is Eris, that may be why

[zealous glen]

Thank you

[mellow sable]

if you don't have Flush Five unlocked you won't even notice the bug because it'll always resample

[leaden belfry]

hmm, so it then moves to Planetpri1_resample* after bugged then bahaves like normal

that explains

yes

[worldly sapphire]

is there an example of this?

looks really cool in game ngl

[zealous glen]

What do you mean?

[worldly sapphire]

like a joker that does this

i mean

i found that baron and shoot the moon

does this with kings and queens

[zealous glen]

Yeah I think that's basically it

[leaden belfry]

this is so stupid

[mellow sable]

soul RNG is funny

[leaden belfry]

here we come the most stupid bugged seed (maybe)

[gilded narwhal]

Yo I'm assuming that the fact that I just beat gold stake for the first time during modded means that modding disables achievements

[leaden belfry]

intentional otherwise you can get them easily by unbalanced mods

[gilded narwhal]

Yeah

It's a shame tho because I didn't use mods to get it

This was the run

Ended up getting hologram to like 11x

[wintry solar]

for k,v in pairs(G.P_CENTERS[_c.key].config) do
                sendDebugMessage(k..": "..tostring(v))
                table.insert(loc_vars, v)
            end```
Trying to get dynamic descriptions working in editions, and this config table is not in the same order as how I define it, any ideas?

[frosty dock]

lua tables are unordered unless you make them arrays, that's just how they work

[wintry solar]

if I define {chips, mult, x_mult} to use for iteration here will that maintain order?

[frosty dock]

yeah, or you just manually use them in that order

[zealous glen]

I think you can have a table with both numbered and arbitrary keys, and ipairs will only iterate over numbered keys

So running ipairs on {chips, chips = 1, mult, mult = 1} gives you 1, chips, then 2, mult, and then you can use the value as the key to the table

[leaden belfry]

the wheel of nope

(never means never unless enough oops 6)

[worldly sapphire]

i tried using shoot the moon as base but the game crashes

SMODS.Jokers.j_aliencat.calculate = function(self, context)
            if self.ability.name == 'Alien Cat' and
                        context.other_card:get_id() == G.P_CENTERS.m_mult then
                        if context.other_card.debuff then
                            return {
                                message = localize('k_debuffed'),
                                colour = G.C.RED,
                                card = self,
                            }
                        else
                            return {
                                h_mult = 13,
                                card = self
                            }
                        end
                    end
            end```

[gilded narwhal]

Yo what should the joker unlocks for black and blue stakes be

[leaden belfry]

I think the second condition should be context.other_card.config.center.name=="Mult"?

[worldly sapphire]

I will test this tomorrow

I'm not feeling good

[wintry solar]

how do jokers like Ceremonial Dagger remember their mult value between saves?

[leaden belfry]

the value is stored in the joker's config

[wooden nexus]

New edition or something?

[tawny perch]

pretty sure its just a custom bg for the homestuck suits

[wooden nexus]

oh

Dang, thought It was editions

[random sleet]

yeah no it's just custom center sprites

same with the minor arcana

it supports bonus, mult, and wild cards (the rest of the enhancements change the card's material enough that i'm not worried about it)

[worthy depot]

The yellowed playing cards high key look nice. I really like them. Autumn your suits also remind me of playing cards from something called "Heckadeck" for some reason.

[wooden nexus]

oh okay

[random sleet]

the yellowed playing cards are minor arcana, the ones with the spirograph watermark are homestuck's aspects

so the minor arcana are based on tarot cards' visuals

[mellow crag]

morning!

[random sleet]

mornings!!!

[mellow crag]

what have you been doing while i was sleping

[random sleet]

just this

less busy day

[mellow crag]

oh nice

i like that

wait is that balatrostuck suits?

[random sleet]

balatrostruck :)

they'll be integrated into thac as balatrostuck support

for the time being probably disabled by default until i can actually code their flush effects, yk

a look under the hood so-to-speak: the custom centers

[mellow crag]

i like how you made the center change

[random sleet]

thank you

[edgy reef]

Huh, that wasn't too difficult to set up.

[random sleet]

CURSES LETS GOOOO

man i need to work faster yall are takin all the cool ideas

[edgy reef]

Steamodded 1.0 is so peak (this is half of the backend, not much else than this).

[mellow crag]

oh? what do they do?

[edgy reef]

Idk yet xdd

[mellow crag]

Yeah i have the same thing for my crops its so goood

that's what I also did for the stamps for Autumn

[edgy reef]

Just randomly decided "let's make a mod to test out custom objects extending GameObject"

[mellow crag]

XD makes sense

i might try again to make something realy cool that I always wanted

[edgy reef]

mwahahaha

[mellow crag]

you are evil

[random sleet]

that would be cool as a boss blind. sorta anti-bell

[random sleet]

my brain hurts

doing a lot of different things was really cool until everything changed

[edgy reef]

mwahahaha x2

Consumables have been 'd!

(Yes this includes when they're in packs)

[remote coral]

So how do you remove it

[hallow forge]

"That's the neat part..."

[remote coral]

Or what if there was a way to remove them by removing all enhancements (and buffs like Hiker Chips) on a card

Forcing you to reset that card essentially

[mellow crag]

Okay I think I can show this

but it's very very VERY WIP

[hallow forge]

i think u need another "very"

[remote coral]

Or dozen

[mellow crag]

https://gyazo.com/653ee37e65dd714dada458057aef2895.mp4
Trying to add a search bar to the jokers tab

It kinda works

[remote coral]

With the ludicrous amount of Jokers that having several mods will add, yeah thank goodness

[mellow crag]

I still need to fix the pages thing

the other pages just appear blank for now

but other than that, it works perfectly

[remote coral]

Yeah that’s got you in a pinch

[queen scroll]

trading card :)

[hallow forge]

I think they were talking about the "enhancement"

[queen scroll]

lol this reminds me of what i did for stone cards for the april fools mod

[random sleet]

hmmmm

[queen scroll]

vampire :)

[hallow forge]

fair

[random sleet]

ingame

this is so fun to mess with

[mellow crag]

Compat becomes a nightmare

I love the cards though

[random sleet]

true but i also kindof dont care

though i do at least a little bit wonder if it'd wind up possible to have the "watermark" be its own sprite and have the game apply it, but i'm using a nonstandard blend mode in GIMP to get the results i like so idk

("linear burn", if that means anything to anyone)

this is certainly more a "cool novelty that is more than ok to be lost in crossmod interaction" feature though

it's implemented in such a way that nothing should break if an enhancement it doesn't recognize is used

[remote coral]

Quad colour wilds, nice

[random sleet]

yep! the minor arcana are blue (cups), red (swords), green (wands), and yellow (coins) so i made their wild card sprite match

it still counts as all suits though, not just those among that set, but it's just a little visual touch

[remote coral]

And that’s only if you wild an arcana suit

That you get that visual

[random sleet]

yeah, those top ones are used for minor arcana

the missing spots are just because it wouldn't make sense for the minor arcana centers to override the "material" enhancements

so they look the same as any other

(lucky would be nice to have look different but that is beyond my art capacities lol)

[mellow crag]

Wait what are the bottom two for?

[random sleet]

minor arcana
homestuck's aspects
undecided; was the original design for the aspects before realizing spirograph made more sense- preserved because it still looks cool

[crisp coral]

huge

[royal ether]

maybe you can make a new layer (front center back) but that sounds like way too much effort

also hi chat

[random sleet]

actually i think i know how i could do it in terms of rendering a new thing on the card i just dont know how to do the blending the way i want it

and i dont know if i care enough to do the legwork involved also

so actually i guess im agreeing with you nvm sorry

also hi balamodbalatro

[royal ether]

i would say im gonna do something similar but i have so much on my plate with super auto balatro, and im planning on doing another project unrelated to balatro when i get back too

hi autumnmood

i might end up making it anyways for super auto balstro though...

[random sleet]

hell yeah

funny poker game as the smash bros of roguelikes

thanks modders

[royal ether]

and homestuck

[random sleet]

homestuck is a roguelike

[royal ether]

susge

[random sleet]

i mean its eaten enough of my time to count as one LOL im on like pg4489 now

[royal ether]

4489... wtf...

how long is a page

[random sleet]

depends

sometimes its a whole mini-rpg sometimes its just a single image

[royal ether]

o interesting

[random sleet]

multimedia to the max! or something like that that actually makes sense

but this isn't very moddevvy so i'll attempt to narratively abandon this narrative here

[royal ether]

yea multimedia if thats what its called is really cool to me

tru

unless... ?

me when my joker procs so i have to do a puzzle to get mult

[shell timber]

Complicated Joker

X5 mult if played hand fulfills the requirements outlined in attached PDF

[royal ether]

password game but you have to do it with your hand

[random sleet]

i mean i guess it is tangentially related to what i've been working on today which was adding 12 more suits based on the Aspects of homestuck to thac (which were previously in balatrostruck but im putting all my s in one basket now) (they'll probably be a cool compat feature for balatrostuck and make it so when you play a flush of an aspect you get aligned with that aspect or something) (and maybe the tarot that converts cards to aspect suits is dependant on your current aspect)

[royal ether]

very epic

[random sleet]

but since i dont have balatrostuck in front of me to program any of that i do not yet have anything of the sort implemented

[zealous glen]

Someone else making curses?

[zealous glen]

I wasn’t sure if I should make “bad enhancements” its own thing or if I should make them work of “enhancements”. I do like both that Enhancements could override bad enhancements and that it could be natively interacted with by other mods that care about Enhancements

[worthy depot]

Feder is also making a form of curses.

Well, boons with random curses specifically.

[maiden phoenix]

Everyone's cursing balatro

[worthy depot]

Hey Jimbo, fu-

[zealous glen]

From what I saw their implementation was a bit different from what I had in mind, although I do want to make boons and curses that come together at some point

My initial idea was to just introduce curses that make the game harder with no explicit benefit (you’re forced to be cursed)

Although some curses are double-edged

[worthy depot]

Kinda like random stakes then?

[zealous glen]

Yes, but you can choose how you’re cursed

You keep getting curse packs

After beating a boss blind

[worthy depot]

Hmmm. It'll be quite fun for a challenge mode and I don't imagine it'll be very hard it implement

[zealous glen]

I did start implementing it, but I paused because EnhanceAPI seemed a bit unstable still

I think Steamodded 1.0 will have built-in support for a lot of features I want to implement so that’ll make it easier

[worthy depot]

How's that going along? (I don't know who's primarily working on 1.0)

[zealous glen]

I think Enhancement support just started, but otherwise other things seem to be going well

But I’ve not been paying attention too closely

Seeing some recent updates by aure, I’m a bit inclined to start porting my mod myself

[frosty dock]

I've started writing up docs, enhancements and editions are currently in the works too

other than that I still have something planned with the sound API, and then we might be good for a first release

if a lovely stable release takes a bit longer, booster packs might also be added to 1.0, but I could see it as a feature in 1.1 too

[crisp coral]

house rules

[zealous glen]

What’s that supposed to mean

[tawny perch]

shes just sayin it should prolly be called house rules

[random sleet]

house rules is myst's mod

[zealous glen]

No I think she has a mod called house rules

[tawny perch]

oh

well

[zealous glen]

But AFAIK it works differently

[tawny perch]

didnt know that

:P

ill check that mod out then

[crisp coral]

from what you've described it feels the same

[random sleet]

house rule that enables a random house rule after every boss blind

[zealous glen]

Do you select the house rules before the run, from among all available rules?

[crisp coral]

yes

[zealous glen]

So it’s different

I explained how it works currently just below that message

[crisp coral]

damb

[zealous glen]

Well, how it would work

[crisp coral]

oh after beating a blind

so limbus mirror dungeon

[zealous glen]

More like the level 6 in Dicey Dungeons

Or whatever it was called

It doesn’t make sense for it to be a House Rule when an effect is like “add n Stone Cards to your deck”

or “turn n cards in your deck into Blank Cards”

But in any case I think disenchantments are more interesting by themselves and Curses are just an easy way to add them to runs.

Something more like Slay the Spire’s “gain something but get bad cards in your deck” or Blinds that hand out Disenhancements are more interesting to me

[lunar patio]

what is this sorcery 👀

[royal ether]

protip you can crop obs output to a source by rightclicking it and selecting crop to source

[oblique gust]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-deep-fried-mad-raging-gif-14229167

[frosty dock]

is this loc_txt explanation alright?

[random sleet]

back on my weird centers thing

[zealous glen]

It can’t stop winning

[random sleet]

hell if i know what i might use this for but it looks pretty slick for being something hodgepodged from vanilla assets

a variety pack

i guess if i get fancy ideas for more suits these could be neat

actually Stars and Moons would probably be pretty ballin on that top spacey one whatever the deck is called is it nebula i forget

[frosty dock]

hm

[random sleet]

aure when/if you get around to portin' and releasin' sixsuits would you be chill if i added a thing that puts them onto that spacey bg

[frosty dock]

sounds good

[random sleet]

i think it'd look pretty sweet lemme actually do a mockup rn

about what they'd look like

man mult cards just look Rough huh

[frosty dock]

huh

not bad

[zealous glen]

I think it’s a bit too faint

[night pagoda]

I feel stupid: how do I do the path of the atlas declaration in the 1.0 steamodded?

[random sleet]

ingame filters do some of the heavy lifting there

[night pagoda]

if I do it the old way, it is weird af

[random sleet]

i believe that screencap is with the center at this contrast level

[maiden phoenix]

You just need to put the file name in the path

[night pagoda]

got it, ty!

[wintry solar]

Would using variables in descriptions need to be in here?

[random sleet]

oh huh. maybe i did mess with the contrast too much

then again it's not supposed to be that striking

it doesn't relay gameplay information after all

however this is absoluting ballin' and i will take no counterpoints

[zealous glen]

I think this one looks better at this level of contrast than the Nebula one

Maybe if you tweak the levels of the nebula itself so the lighter parts are lighter and darker parts darker it would look better?

[random sleet]

ok but first stone card watermark

[mellow crag]

Aaaaa I’m not going to be home a lot today so I can’t work ):

[zealous glen]

Looks good but again a little bit more contrast would make it more noticeable I think

Also I hope I’m not being too nitpicky; I think these are awesome

[mellow crag]

Ooh I love these

[random sleet]

:?

[night pagoda]

Are there any changes in the new steamodded regarding the localization values of jokers? kinda don't want to do the generate_UIBox_ability_tableref injection thing again if there's possibility

[random sleet]

why the hell were you doing that in the first place

[frosty dock]

you didn't need to do that even in 0.9.8

[night pagoda]

idk how to do it any other way?

[frosty dock]

previously there was a loc_def function

[night pagoda]

I was told to do that when I started modding lmao

[frosty dock]

modifying the function via hooks is super jank because you end up missing weird edge cases and everything winds up incompatible

so lovely is the only clean way

[random sleet]

and here's new nebula watermark

[frosty dock]

loc_vars works slightly differently than loc_def did before, basically you return a table that looks like

{
  vars = { var1, var2, var3 },
}

arguments are self, info_queue, card where self is the center and card is the card

[night pagoda]

awesome, thanks!

[frosty dock]

how does this look

[maiden phoenix]

Wait you don't need a custom atlas to load your joker sprites? Or it's just a default value?

[frosty dock]

this one's a default

[maiden phoenix]

Oh ok phew

[frosty dock]

but there's no harm in calling your custom atlas Joker, since it gets prepended with your prefix

[maiden phoenix]

I gave my jokers custom atlas and I was wondering if it was redundant, guess it wasn't

[frosty dock]

this is valid and does not override the vanilla sprites

but the vanilla atlas will still be used as a default

[maiden phoenix]

Ah crap it might actually be, I'll need to do some test later

[frosty dock]

this, on the other hand, would overwrite the vanilla Joker atlas

[maiden phoenix]

If I give my atlas the key "Joker" I don't need to set an atlas value for my modded jokers right?

Wait no you said the prefix was prepended

[frosty dock]

the default is always the vanilla atlas

if you give it atlas = 'Joker', it will use prefix_Joker

[maiden phoenix]

My brain is melting from my sheer stupidity

[frosty dock]

if you let it use the default, it uses Joker

if you give it Joker and set raw_atlas_key = true, it will also use the vanilla atlas

[maiden phoenix]

I'll just keep it how it is rn, it doesn't hurt and works fine

[random sleet]

i have gone veritably mad with power
i'll probably stop this madness soon one way or another

[maiden phoenix]

The jest is watching

[frosty dock]

oh no

the actual jest

[night pagoda]

do I understand correctly that I need to do function SMODS.Joker.j_my_joker.loc_vars(self, info_queue, card) with return { vars = { }, } in it to make variables for the localization?

[maiden phoenix]

The loc_vars is done inside the SMODS.Joker

[zealous glen]

What if you wanted to change the objects that already existed 🤔

[frosty dock]

same deal, loc_vars bypasses the original

[zealous glen]

I don’t want to bypass the original

I want to make it animate like Misprint

[frosty dock]

it just goes inside the constructor, like

SMODS.Joker {
  -- other stuff
  loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card) ... end,
}

[zealous glen]

I have three different but similar consumables so I load the tooltip from one but change the value every 3 seconds

[frosty dock]

SMODS.Joker {
  -- other stuff
  loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
    return { main_start = {} }
  end,
}

this is supported

[zealous glen]

I also have hooks to add a custom Credit tooltip (with a darker background), to add subtitles to Jokers, and to make text smaller than the game was letting me make (though in hindsight that might’ve been a skill issue)

[zealous glen]

If that was in response to me, I was just changing one value in the middle of a line

[frosty dock]

uh I took this as wanting to use main_start for an animation like misprint

[night pagoda]

I'm making a custom joker creation function because I'm sick of manually typing some things with minor changes over and over again

like the name and key where the only difference is absence of spaces and uppercase letters

[zealous glen]

Here’s how it looked when I first did it. #⚙・modding-general message

[night pagoda]

ughh

[frosty dock]

creating a new object to pass to SMODS.Joker just limits the possibilities of that function

just do modifications on joker and pass it directly

SMODS.Joker(joker)

[zealous glen]

Can’t you create Jokers on a loop?

[night pagoda]

???

[zealous glen]

for joker in jokers do

[night pagoda]

that's the exact reason I do this thing, because I don't want to deal with SMODS.Joker(joker)

I don't think I'll ever need to specify key that is different to the name

I don't want to deal with coordinates

[frosty dock]

yeah that's fine

I'm saying you don't need a new table

[frosty dock]

you can do joker.name = joker.key and still pass in joker after that

[zealous glen]

I do something similar

[random sleet]

this is part of a table containing functions to handle all kinds of game object registry, separated per-type

for example this mess

not catching me typing "colour"

[night pagoda]

I do not understand 😭

[frosty dock]

say you want one of your jokers to have another function, say add_to_deck

with your setup, you can't pass it to the constructor because you're making a new object that only has select fields from the object passed in

[random sleet]

actually, this doesn't input any functions. you'll wind up having to do way more hoop-jumping

[frosty dock]

if you simply modify joker before passing it to SMODS.Joker, you have no issues doing that

[livid veldt]

hey everyone, is there a guide on how to create jokers and stuff ?

[worldly sapphire]

Everytime i test it the game crashes.

SMODS.Jokers.j_aliencat.calculate = function(self, context)
            if self.ability.name == 'Alien Cat' and
            context.other_card.config.center.name=="Mult" then
                        if context.other_card.debuff then
                            return {
                                message = localize('k_debuffed'),
                                colour = G.C.RED,
                                card = self,
                            }
                        else
                            return {
                                h_mult = 13,
                                card = self
                            }
                        end
                    end
            end```

[frosty dock]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/Creating-new-game-objects for steamodded 0.9.8

docs for 1.0 are WIP

[livid veldt]

thank you !!

[frosty dock]

this runs for every context, you need to check you're in the right context first

I'd assume this is meant to be for context.individual on playing cards?

[zealous glen]

I mean, they could set a field to an arbitrary function that does anything specific they’d want, but most of the time doesn’t do anything

[random sleet]

he is already here

[frosty dock]

your arbitrary field doesn't get passed into the constructor

[worldly sapphire]

wow

it really worked

but, is there a way i can also trigger the mult card that is in hand?

[zealous glen]

I think I misunderstood what they were doing then

[frosty dock]

also I feel like I've said this before, but you don't need to check the joker's name

[zealous glen]

Or what you suggested

[frosty dock]

look at how shoot the moon does it

[worldly sapphire]

i mean't the mult card effect itself

[zealous glen]

I mean you could but adding the extra Mult to the Joker is almost equivalent

[worldly sapphire]

so, should i make the mult cards in hand give 14?

its probably better

[night pagoda]

What am I doing wrong? Shows ERROR in the desc

[frosty dock]

like I said, { vars = { ... } }

[night pagoda]

oops

[maiden phoenix]

Firch if you need a base to help modding I already updated my mod to the current SMODS alpha

[night pagoda]

I need to get used to all this stuff a bit first

huh

+A mult

[maiden phoenix]

A

[night pagoda]

huhhh

it shows +A even if the both values are described as #1# in the localization

[frosty dock]

chat

[oblique gust]

[frosty dock]

for a custom get_current_pool check, how should it interact with showman?

as in, should it be possible for it to allow duplicates even if showman isn't present, and how?

i don't think it's a good idea to let each instance of such a function check for showman

[random sleet]

how is a good question but it definitely should be supported

i believe feder's crops would specifically want something to this effect

[night pagoda]

💀

[random sleet]

that's certainly a way to do that

[frosty dock]

i can't read

[random sleet]

yeah me neither bro its cool

[frosty dock]

i certainly can't read

it's dope

[night pagoda]

they're both #1# yet different

why??

[random sleet]

i wonder if you could just have like... "allow_duplicates" to be its own thing

[frosty dock]

could have a return value like { add = true, allow_duplicates = true }

if it's just a field on the center object, it's unconditional

[random sleet]

that could work. leaves open the possibility of more advanced functionality as well.

stuff like perhaps including stuff like enhancement_gate for the cases of suits, ranks, editions, seals, etc...
(such that each item in the pool doesn't have to iterate the deck for them)

although perhaps that is also a silly idea. ah well.

[frosty dock]

sure these could be added, but it's not really expandable

you could always set a flag when the item you're gating behind is obtained

this can probably do

[night pagoda]

does table.insert sorts the table in some way or something? The values are added through the loop I sent earlier but they're in a wrong order

..or maybe it's a pairs() thing?

[lunar patio]

pairs do not respect any ordering even if the keys are numeric

if the keys are numeric and 1 indexed, as every lua array is, use ipairs

[night pagoda]

uhmmm

I don't get how can I get the key in the ipairs loop instead of key's value or index

[frosty dock]

ipairs is only for numeric keys

[night pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-cringe-gif-23742766

[frosty dock]

hm, I'm not sure I like the tally being there

[night pagoda]

this is the exact reason I unregister the suits in bunco

[frosty dock]

this is meant for per-deck suits

I'm not sure I wanna mess with RNG over this (so cards could still appear in standard packs and whatnot this way), but this looks off

i mean i probably could disable the suit and not display tallies for disabled suits

[worldly sapphire]

One thing i noticed about one of my jokers, it gets upgraded, but if i have a blueprint or brainstorm it will upgrade twice. Instead of copying the upgrade, the brainstorm or blueprint need to copy only the X Mult

[zealous glen]

You can have both types of keys in a single table, and ipairs ignores non-numeric keys

I think Autumn realized that and I copied from it

So you can do

for k, v in ipairs(tab) do
    f(tab[v])
end

[zealous glen]

Maybe keep a list of secret and non-secret suits (like hands)

[zealous glen]

You need to use context.blueprint to distinguish between cases

if not context.blueprint then can isolate a block that shouldn’t work with Blueprint (use any combination of ands, ors, and nesting that you want)

[night pagoda]

wouldn't that not work if it ignores non-numeric keys?

yeah, the loop simply doesn't even start with ipairs

the thing I'm trying to do basically is to add 'card.ability.extra' to every key's name in the table

[oblique gust]

just went into some issues with two different mods having jokers of the same name. im not talking about the displayed name but the ability.name

this is absolutely dangerous to give ur jokers a slug and an internal name without a more unique prefix or sum as a namespace. like make the slug j_MODID_jokername and make the name this way too since its not displayed.
its not originally mod authors' problem. its bc the vanilla game unintentionally made a bad example at this.
i can kinda see how this gon be the root cause of more reported crashes in the near future

[crisp coral]

already done in 1.0.0

[oblique gust]

oh we'll have a forced namespace?

or stuff like that

[crisp coral]

you can provide a prefix (or the mod will take the first 4 letters of the mod id)

[frosty dock]

prefix uniqueness is also forced

[oblique gust]

THIS is great

[frosty dock]

(I don't handle collisions for you, mods with duplicate prefixes simply won't load)

name isn't actually used by steamodded at all

I probably should remove the requirement for it to be provided, I don't think the game would complain about it being nil anywhere

it's just a stupid duplicate

[oblique gust]

anyway it made me hope the release day of 1.0 even worse

[frosty dock]

I'm gonna go for a G.GAME.disabled_suits sort of table to keep disabled suits across reload

[frosty dock]

you can preview it right now, the current progress is on the main branch on github

[zealous glen]

It works for me

I literally have that in my code

[night pagoda]

didn't work for me lol

[oblique gust]

yea i know theres a preview. imma just enjoy my modpack a few days more then i'll go to 1.0

[night pagoda]

maybe I messed something up but I'm really close to giving up

[frosty dock]

fair

[night pagoda]

the loop simply didn't even start

[zealous glen]

What is your code like?

[zealous glen]

Yeah because your keys aren't integers

If your keys aren't integers you have to use pairs

[night pagoda]

pairs messes up my order...

[zealous glen]

ipairs starts from 1 and goes until it can't find n+1 AFAIK

[night pagoda]

how it looks like with pairs

[zealous glen]

Those are the two options unless you manually make your own iterator

[night pagoda]

works well but in the wrong order

[zealous glen]

do it like this

[night pagoda]

what's the difference between this and this?

[zealous glen]

@night pagoda

[night pagoda]

both are ipairs

well yeah!

pairs are unordered, again

[zealous glen]

And again

If you want to be ordered use ipairs

[night pagoda]

but I can't because ipairs doesn't work on my table again!

[zealous glen]

Change your table!

Again!

[night pagoda]

oh no

[zealous glen]

Or better, do it as I explained here

[zealous glen]

☝️

You can have both types of keys and ipairs ignores non-integer ones

vars = {'chips', chips = 45, 'mult', mult = 6, 'side', side = 'A'}

[night pagoda]

if I do both types of keys then it makes the table more difficult which is opposite of what I'm trying to do; reduce the duplicates and manual inputs for the joker initialization

yeah that won't do, sorry

[zealous glen]

Then learn how to make your own iterator

[night pagoda]

will try, ty

[zealous glen]

The two default options I know of in Lua are ipairs and pairs

[crisp coral]

@frosty dock can you make objects' process_loc_text load first, since The Ancestor's vars = {localize('ph_ancestor')}, is returning ERROR but works on hot reload

[frosty dock]

do you set that on load?

[crisp coral]

it can't be attached to the object itself?

[frosty dock]

no

[crisp coral]

cringe

[frosty dock]

you have do it in loc_vars

else it won't work with localization

which for 1.0 means it doesn't work at all

[crisp coral]

vars instead of loc_vars is normal for blinds

unless i'm misunderstanding

well i also have this which isn't doing shit either

i think the one in collections tab pulls from the vars in the center config and not loc_vars idk

[frosty dock]

hm, in that case if you want it localized, you can put it in process_loc_text or inject

[crisp coral]

putting it in SMODS.current_mod.process_loc_text() does not localize it properly either

hardcode time

[frosty dock]

I mean in the object's process_loc_text

[crisp coral]

that's... what i had...

[frosty dock]

like

process_loc_text = function(self)
  self.super.process_loc_text(self)
 self.vars = ...
end

[crisp coral]

hm

[frosty dock]

it doesnt work at load because it can change on language change, it's not fully static

[crisp coral]

cool, the super worked

[frosty dock]

hm deck preview is like 10 regex patches... i feel like that's too inefficent

I'm just gonna swap back to overwriting these fully

9 patches for view deck

like, UI_definitions.lua is a massive file

[wooden nexus]

More art development but yeah

[crisp coral]

whatever you do to view_deck will be copied back to graveyard lmao

[wooden nexus]

I'm waiting for suit additions and removal for specific decks

[frosty dock]

it doesn't even save space, it's like 200 lines for patches on 250 lines of code

if the vanilla function changes I'm fucked either way, so what's the point

in other news game_object.lua is now 2.5k lines

should i move hooks like that to a separate file?

[zealous glen]

What else is in the file?

[frosty dock]

API definitions

SMODS.Centers = {}
SMODS.Center = {
blah blah blah

[zealous glen]

I keep hooks in individual files name after the file that contains the function I’m hooking

[frosty dock]

I have lovely patch files grouped after APIs with commented function names

mostly I just think it's getting annoying to find the actual APIs because there's so much other code in between

besides, the code doesn't need to be deferred to loadAPIs

[golden lake]

whats this vars i hear of

[mellow crag]

@frosty dock I was wondering...
https://gyazo.com/653ee37e65dd714dada458057aef2895.mp4
I want to change the amount of pages possible, and that would require me to enter the UI's data dynamically.
Perhaps you know how to do that?

[frosty dock]

uh i don't know, and I don't feel like digging into UI code to find out

[mellow crag]

makes sense XD

i will try to scrape something together from the handAPI

[austere schooner]

that is a nice looking tarot

[hoary sand]

is there anyway to mimic the effects of stone cards without like. replacing all the "m_stone"s with a custom function

[maiden phoenix]

Oh that's really cool

[frosty dock]

i have this working two ways

one is should_register, it disables the suit/rank completely, removing the values from G.P_CARDS. In this case, they can't be used at all unless populated again, but will be hidden from all UI elements (this should be more graceful than complete deletion)

then there's also should_add_to_deck, which just removes cards from the starting deck, but they still exist, i.e. they're not hidden from the UI, can appear in standard packs, etc.

[mellow crag]

Oh that’s cool

I like it

[night pagoda]

bunco™️ reference

[zealous glen]

maybe in 1.0

[night pagoda]

small joker initialization, finally

[random sleet]

based!!!!

especially since thac has 16 extra suits now, a way to make the UI not go bonkers would be pretty slick

[wintry solar]

I found a way around this yesterday that I found quite elegant, can dm you when I’m back on my pc

[night pagoda]

Oooh, would be great!

I gave up on this exact part and started doing different things already

[zealous glen]

I’m curious why you wanted the variables to be in a specific order

[zealous glen]

I’m curious to see it too

[night pagoda]

because of this - if they're unordered I have to put seemingly random numbers in the localization

[night pagoda]

How does the Joker calculate function work in 1.0?

[frosty dock]

nothing special iirc, args are card, context

[night pagoda]

I'm getting a error regarding Jokers being nil

[zealous glen]

But don't you return the loc_vars by getting the parameters from the card

[wintry solar]

local editionMods = {'chip','mult','x_mult','card_limit'}
local editionConfig = G.P_CENTERS[_c.key].config
for k,v in ipairs(editionMods) do
    if editionConfig[v] then
        table.insert(loc_vars, editionConfig[v])
    end
end

this is what I did to get around the table being reordered

[zealous glen]

Like, if you do {card.extra.chips, card.extra.mult} they would be in the correct order

[frosty dock]

you just put the function in the constructor as with everything

[zealous glen]

or whatever the 1.0 equivalent is

[zealous glen]

isn't this possible in 1.0?

[frosty dock]

nothing about that is specific to 1.0?

[zealous glen]

I'm asking because Firch seem to be having issues with the localization variables in 1.0

but they shouldn't be out of order if they followed the same logic as 0.9.8

[night pagoda]

no, I declare them earlier but I modify them to include card.ability.extra.-

yeah I do different thing that isn't something I did in 0.9.8

I'm trying to get rid of repeats in code

[zealous glen]

I mean, the variables are only computed during runtime, so it should be doable by just calling it inside the loc_vars equivalent

[night pagoda]

so config and loc_vars are the same most of the time and I don't see myself why I shouldn't do them at the same time

aside from ordering weirdness

[zealous glen]

Ah, I understand, you're procedurally generating then

[night pagoda]

yup

[zealous glen]

Then you can get the key table and order it as strings

[wintry solar]

you can also only do this if you hard code each joker, I think Firch is trying to automate that process right?

[night pagoda]

that won't work in my case unfortunately for the reason that it still needs manual input

[wintry solar]

it doesn't

[zealous glen]

They also don't want to type variable names one extra time

[night pagoda]

isn't editionMods a repeat?

[zealous glen]

Because ipairs works with this

[night pagoda]

yeah I'd really love to use ipairs but I just can't see myself repeating that again like I did in 0.9.8

[wintry solar]

editionMods is just a list of all the different options I can pass in the edition config

[zealous glen]

@night pagoda I think this is the best you can do to automate them since both the extra variables and the Joker description are arbitrary objects

[night pagoda]

yeah but now imagine all the possible options from 30+ cards lol

[zealous glen]

Even if a single Joker is predictable, across all Jokers the content is arbitrary

[wintry solar]

how many different config options do you have?

[zealous glen]

So you need to encode the extra information there somewhere if you want it to behave in a particular way

[night pagoda]

Not sure if I understand that
so if I'd order them as strings how would I assign values to them?

[zealous glen]

A built-in ordered list/tuple/dictionary is doing that but it'd be hidden by the object

[zealous glen]

I don't understand your question

The keys are already strings AFAIK

hence table["key"] is equivalent to table.key whenever the latter is well-defined

[night pagoda]

loosely speaking I can't make this

[zealous glen]

That's stays as is

You order them when building loc_vars

Or you make an ordered list/tuple/dictionary out of Lua tables

[night pagoda]

in theory I could order those alphabetically

[wintry solar]

would vars = {{ chips = 45 }, { mult = 6 }, { size = 'A' }} work?

[night pagoda]

in loc_vars

[wintry solar]

and then use ipairs on that?

[zealous glen]

That's what I said

[night pagoda]

yeah I'm just trying to process

[zealous glen]

again, just {'chips', chips = 45, 'mult', mult = 6, 'size', size = 'A'} works with ipairs

[worldly sapphire]

i'm trying to make a joker that gives both mult and chips and im not getting the trigger for both

[worldly sapphire]

SMODS.Jokers.j_oofjoker.calculate = function(self, context)
        if self.ability.name == 'Wild Cardback' and context.joker_main and (next(context.poker_hands['Full House']) or next(context.poker_hands['Flush House'])) then
            if context.scoring_name == ("Full House") then
            return {
            chips = self.ability.extra.chips,
            mult = self.ability.extra.mult,
            card = self
        }
      end
    end
end```

[zealous glen]

you just need to call the "correct" key inside the loop

[wintry solar]

yeah but that is a super jank way of defining your config

imo

[zealous glen]

You need to manually display the VFX

[zealous glen]

It's not the prettiest but it works

[night pagoda]

yeah that's why all this thing I'm trying to do is happening

[zealous glen]

@night pagoda https://stackoverflow.com/a/19266578

[night pagoda]

my brains rot

"brains"...

[worldly sapphire]

how tho?

[frosty dock]

brians

[wintry solar]

{{'chips', 'mult', 'side'}, chips = 45, mult = 6, side= "A"} you could double for loop this too I think

[zealous glen]

look up card_eval_status_text

[zealous glen]

I think that's an uglier version of what I suggested

[wintry solar]

it's close

I think the way I've used for editions is cleaner

[zealous glen]

I disagree

because the nesting is unecessary

[wintry solar]

in that the table of the correct order is already defined

[zealous glen]

I grouped the integer-indexed and string-indexed entries side by side, but {'chips', 'mult', 'size', chips = 45, mult = 6, size = 'A'} works

[wintry solar]

1 nested for loop vs duplicating keys every definition

[zealous glen]

Do you really need that bracket? Do you want to iterate on card.extra[1]?

[wintry solar]

it's a matter of preference though

[frosty dock]

what is this, trying to overgeneralize?

[zealous glen]

ipairs(extra) is easier to read than ipairs(extra[1])

[zealous glen]

I think so

I think Firch is trying to generalize something that can exhibit arbitrary contents*

[frosty dock]

just define an ordered list of recognized extra subkeys, and add them to vars in order if they exist

[zealous glen]

*Granted it would be easier to generalize with ordered lists/tuples/dicts

But Lua doesn't have them built-in

[frosty dock]

So if there's mult and chips and side, and they show up in that list in that order, they'll be 1, 2, and 3 respectively

doesn't seem too complicated

[zealous glen]

I'm also not sure if Lua's syntax would allow ordered tables to be described with the same syntax

[zealous glen]

why not alphabetically

That way it's slightly easier because there's no list or recognized keys

but you need to remember your variable names

[frosty dock]

isn't that what you get with pairs?

[zealous glen]

I think pairs is just random

[frosty dock]

wait no it's just undefined behavior

well than make a list of keys and sort that

I don't see the issue

[wintry solar]

local editionConfig = G.P_CENTERS[_c.key].config
                for k,v in ipairs(editionConfig["order"]) do
                    if editionConfig[v] then
                        table.insert(loc_vars, editionConfig[v])
                    end
                end

is this preferable then? and you pass the order each time you define the edition?

[wintry solar]

config = { labels = {'chip','mult','x_mult'}, values = {200, 10, 2} },

for k,v in ipairs(editionConfig.values) do
    table.insert(loc_vars, v)
end

this also works

[frosty dock]

@mellow sable i think i unscuffed the applied stakes text, it's just that it requires some more dictionary items

(ignore the fact that the null case doesn't work for non-english)

hm actually this has an issue with applying stakes above itself

[zealous glen]

actually, I like this solution. You can insert on the extra table @night pagoda

[night pagoda]

oooooh

[mellow sable]

also "Applie" won't work in other languages

[frosty dock]

yeah i already replaced that

[mellow sable]

👍

[frosty dock]

though being able to apply a stake registered after with proper display is an arbitrary restriction

[night pagoda]

how would I go for generating config values for this?

this one is really the cleanest so far

[sly forge]

no love for the {{ chips , 45 }, { mult , 6 }, { size , 'A' }} method?

[night pagoda]

oh wait did I miss this one

[sly forge]

ok, edited to use mini-arrays

[sly forge]

uh, to answer this: you'd iterate across both arrays in parallel, setting config[table[labels[i]]] = table[values[i]]

where table is the input

hm, {{ chips = 45 }, { mult = 6 }, { size = 'A' }} looks cleaner

anyway all of these solutions are fine

[night pagoda]

feel a little bit braindead so need some time to figure out how to iterate

[worldly sapphire]

I tried everything and I GET THIS ERROR

here is the code

SMODS.Jokers.j_oofjoker.calculate = function(self, context)
        if context.joker_main and next(context.poker_hands['Full House']) then
            if context.scoring_name == ("Full House") then
            return {
            message = localize{type='variable',key='a_chips',vars={self.ability.extra.chip_mod}},
            chips = self.ability.extra.chip_mod,
        }
      end
   end
end```

oops wrong one

[wintry solar]

how do you mean?

[gilded narwhal]

:(

[bold osprey]

Something messing with the Save game function o.o

[gilded narwhal]

I think what happened is I loaded cryptid, had one of the new stakes, and then uninstalled cryptid

So that messed with it

How do I remove the save from the files

[mellow sable]

delete save.jkr in your profile folder

%AppData%/Balatro/Mods/(1, 2, or 3)

[gilded narwhal]

Thank uuuu

Womp womp

[wintry solar]

excuse me lua wtf are you doing

[frosty dock]

camel_case

ease_dollars, not easeDollars

[wintry solar]

oh right

sendDebugMessage defaulting me back into camel case T_T

gah I even searched my project files for ease_dollars

[frosty dock]

i should make an alias send_debug_message tbh

[wintry solar]

I'd still get it wrong

camelCase = bestCase

[frosty dock]

i do agree snake case is worse

[frosty dock]

but conventions, yk

[wintry solar]

we have $ edition compat 😄

[zealous glen]

I had an idea for an Edition that granted dollars at the end of round, but making a metallic shader seems difficult

[wintry solar]

should be possible

though glsl is 🤢

[night pagoda]

are there any mods that are ported to 1.0 already? really want to see how to do joker calculation

[frosty dock]

#1219749193204371456 was first

[mellow sable]

cryptid is a good example

my registering system is unconventional though, I'll warn you

[night pagoda]

ty!

[zealous glen]

Actually I just found a tutorial that makes what seems to be a passable metallic shader

[wintry solar]

got a link?

[zealous glen]

https://learnopengl.com/PBR/Lighting

[mellow sable]

local iterum = {
    object_type = "Joker",
    name = "cry-Iterum",
    key = "iterum",
    config = {extra = {x_mult = 1.5, repetitions = 1}},
    pos = {x = 0, y = 0},
    loc_txt = {
        name = 'Iterum',
        text = {
        "Retrigger all cards played {C:attention}#2#{} time(s),",
        "each played card gives",
        "{X:mult,C:white} X#1# {} Mult when scored"}
    },
    rarity = "cry_exotic",
    cost = 50,
    discovered = true,
    blueprint_compat = true,
    atlas = 'iterum',
    soul_pos = {x = 1, y = 0, extra = {x = 2, y = 0}},
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, center)
        return {vars = {center.ability.extra.x_mult,center.ability.extra.repetitions}}
    end,
    calculate = function(self, context)
        if context.repetition then
            if context.cardarea == G.play then
                return {
                    message = localize('k_again_ex'),
                    repetitions = self.ability.extra.repetitions,
                    card = self
                }
            end
        elseif context.individual then
            if context.cardarea == G.play then
                return {
                    x_mult = self.ability.extra.x_mult,
                    colour = G.C.RED,
                    card = self
                }
            end
        end
    end
}

Iterum is a pretty simple example of how to do calculations (object_type and soul_pos.extra are custom things I implemented)

[night pagoda]

oooh the calculation is inside the initialization now?

[wintry solar]

cheers, will have a look through it later on

[frosty dock]

everything is

[night pagoda]

the future is now...

please tell me that I can do lovely injection also inside this code (I haven't looked into it yet)

[frosty dock]

lovely injection goes in lovely patch files

steamodded can't really have a wrapper for it, given it happens before the game itself loads

[wintry solar]

h_dollars next?

[night pagoda]

sooo am I forced to separate everything into two files?

dreams of clean code shattered

[frosty dock]

well lovely patch files are literally not lua code

though meth said he wanted to support in-code patches iirc?

#1209564621644505158 message

[wintry solar]

what happens with lovely if two patches try to inject at the same place?

[frosty dock]

something something priority? idk

[zealous glen]

I mean, if you do try to implement it I can try to offer help, although I haven't use GSLS

Since it's my Edition idea lol

[zealous glen]

More files = cleaner code 🤔

one file for each UTF-8 character? 🤔

[night pagoda]

true but when you have code for one joker in two separate files it's kinda meh

[wintry solar]

what edition effects do you think should be built into the api?

[zealous glen]

Personally I prefer to group hooks together, so the Joker's file requires the specific hook files it needs

Although I do find the lack of connection between lovely-requiring Jokers and the lovely file a bit disturbing

[night pagoda]

I also plan to do editions for bunco like the fluorescent that is planned since the beginning and I still can't get to it, oof

[zealous glen]

Sometimes when I wake up at night it's there

[zealous glen]

I think the API itself should at most have examples

[night pagoda]

yup

[wintry solar]

Well base game only supports chip, mult and Xmult modifiers

I feel like baking some other things in will be useful

[zealous glen]

calculate_edition

[wintry solar]

oh true that makes sense

[zealous glen]

That's almost everything you need

Maybe the particular idea I had had for an Edition that grants $ is different because thunk hardcoded which Jokers grant $ instead of calling calculate_joker

But even then maybe 1.0 changed that?

[wintry solar]

Every edition is hardcoded

[zealous glen]

I'm talking about Jokers

and specifically how defining a calculate function locally is most of the time the way to allow for general, arbitrary effects

[wintry solar]

and then I just want to patch this out?

[zealous glen]

Since the game already calculates the objects anyways, I don't think the overheard of adding calculate_edition is that much bigger

[zealous glen]

Pretty much; you could check if the edition is one of the vanilla ones and run the appropriate code, otherwise call calculate_edition

[wintry solar]

the code is buried in evaluate_play though, would that be a problem?

nvm I've followed the trace

[night pagoda]

I'm not sure if it's 1.0's issue but I got crash on hc toggle

[frosty dock]

lemme see

[worldly sapphire]

one thing that is strange in when i make one of my jokers a different edition it will not show the info of the edition the joker is on

[frosty dock]

hc toggle works fine for me

might be an issue on your end

[night pagoda]

uhmmm

I have nothing besides one joker and a bunch of atlases

am I registering these correctly?

[edgy reef]

It's erroring here it seems

[frosty dock]

that is correct if the file you're drawing from is at assets/2x/Jokers/Jokers.png

[frosty dock]

huh

[night pagoda]

I do

[frosty dock]

should be fine then, prefixing with bunco_ is unnecessary at best

[night pagoda]

the only joker I made does load the sprite just fine

[worldly sapphire]

only the joker that has a custom info_queue

the others show the editions normally

[frosty dock]

which steamodded ver?

[worldly sapphire]

0.9.8

[frosty dock]

yeah that sounds like an issue 0.9.8 would have

the fact it hooks generate_card_ui in a way where the original is sometimes used tends to having weird edge cases where something is missed

lovely allows it to be much cleaner and avoids these issues completely, which is what I did for 1.0

[short surge]

@frosty dock sorry for ping aure, but i wonder if steamodded can patch a bug of the OG game just so that people don't have to do it individually

[zealous glen]

Rule 3 would suggest not

[frosty dock]

that's not what rule 3 states

[frosty dock]

what's the bug?

[short surge]

i posted it a couple month ago here in bug report: https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1229179817212121220

[zealous glen]

then what does it do

[short surge]

basically if one attempts to unset editions they could run into errors, all you have to do is to check if .edition exist before you check each individual edition attributes

[frosty dock]

as per my understanding, that you shouldn't attach a debugger to the game

[short surge]

but i think this can only be done via lovely, and i really don't think having everyone do that is a good idea

also this report was left in the wind so i doubt it's gonna be patched offically any time soon

[frosty dock]

to me that seems reasonable if and only if steamodded has an edition API that supports unsetting editions in some way

it'd be weird to just have that as a patch that's unrelated to anything steamodded does

[zealous glen]

@wintry solar

[short surge]

i believe there were attempts that do so, the bronze edition

[wintry solar]

what file is it in?

[short surge]

but it was edition, not unsetting edition

[short surge]

card.lua I believe

it's Card.set_edition

[wintry solar]

let me see what happens when I try to set back to base

[short surge]

it's this, because this is an event, it would trigger after you potentially put edition to nil

so you need this, but OG game does the second conditions right away

there's a if self.edition on top, but that's not timed, so the condition triggers first, and then if the action was to set edition to nil, the event would be queued, but edition is gone

[zealous glen]

By the way, I was patching the code for editions and I ran into a bug

Of my own creation most likely

Where making a card not-Negative doesn't decrease the CardArea's size

[wintry solar]

I think that's because the game doesn't handle removing editions very well

[zealous glen]

But I don't think that's a bug while using Debug mode

which allows you to cycle through them

[short surge]

yeah i think currently no cards would remove edition

[frosty dock]

yeah the game just doesn't account for it

[wintry solar]

huh I haven't actually accounted for sounds at all

[short surge]

but it was a big flaw for me mostly because default joker creation would run into a random edition assignment process, and i always unset edition to make sure cards generated are not randomly enhanced

so i'd really recommend we handle this with lovely in 1.0 officially

just so that in case anyone ever step upon edition api officially or unoffcially this is no longer a flaw

[wintry solar]

my rewrite of set_edition seems to be fine regardless

in fact

the base version should be fine too

you just call Card.set_edition() and it just deletes the edition and then returns

[short surge]

but i was running into errors when i do that

hmmm

[wintry solar]

how have you been unsetting?

[short surge]

card:set_edition(nil) i think

[wintry solar]

huh

this should just unset it and return

[short surge]

i unset the edition immediately after creating the card

[zealous glen]

Except in debug mode

[zealous glen]

I think you can use a key to prevent it from having an edition

Like Riff-Raff

[short surge]

i think the problem was how stuff are queued

[wintry solar]

have you tried this just using debug mode?

[zealous glen]

What do you mean?

[wintry solar]

no other mods

[short surge]

i think if a card randomly gains edition through creation, it will queue the problematic line

[zealous glen]

Oh, as I said, I think the issue is created by my mod

But I guess it could be someone else's mod

[wintry solar]

No I mean I think it's a problem with the base game

[short surge]

and unsetting it would actually make it nil even though an event that looks at the edition is already queued

[zealous glen]

I don't think it is

You can change a Joker to negative and back and you don't gain a Joker slot permanently, right?

Was that always the case and I never noticed it?

[short surge]

hence causing a problem that crashes the game (reading self.edition.something even though it is nil first level)

[wintry solar]

Well if that conditional will solve the problem I’ll just drop it in

[worldly sapphire]

i was wondering, its possible to make animated jokers that change sprite?

[edgy reef]

I think the actual sprite is behind it on the card which is mid but hey, it works.

[wintry solar]

just tested with only debug mode on that touches editions and you still gain slots permanently fyi

[edgy reef]

There we go

[zealous glen]

Perhaps, but it's still not easy

[zealous glen]

I think you should be able to offset the hand until it's outside the sprite

I mean, below

In the empty space below highlighted cards

[hallow forge]

What if 6 cards are “Me First!”

[zealous glen]

I don't know what's currently implemented, but I'd code it so that the effect stops it from self-selecting when there are 5 cards with Me First! already selected

[edgy reef]

It only selects one of the cards automatically.

Also where tf does the game handle offset sprites

[zealous glen]

I can change that later ;P

[zealous glen]

The position of soul sprites is hardcoded, maybe you can look at how Hologram does it. Otherwise, I think balatrotale gaming or SMD_0 might know how to do it

(if not SMD_0 then whoever had a Damocles Joker)

[edgy reef]

Oh nvm, just setting it as a separate atlas worked.

[zealous glen]

Can I have a video to show it off to some friends? I had shown them the sprite when I made it

Since it’s inspired by Revolutionary Girl Utena

[edgy reef]

Something like this?

[zealous glen]

That works! Thanks!

[wild gyro]

what if you have 6

[worldly sapphire]

is there a way i can make a joker that activates after i play a certain amount of hands, then it resets after the effect is played

[wild gyro]

look at loyalty card

[worldly sapphire]

i mean, if i play 3 hands, then the effect activates

then if i play another one the effect is used

then it resets

[royal ether]

isnt that exactly loyalty card

[worldly sapphire]

but instead of xmult i want it to give chips

[royal ether]

yea just look at what loyalty card does

[worldly sapphire]

changed some things in the loyalty card code to give chips and now i get this

self.ability.loyalty_remaining = (self.ability.extra.every-1-(G.GAME.hands_played - self.ability.hands_played_at_create))%(self.ability.extra.every+1)```

the line

i did a thing, its not giving or computing chips

SMODS.Jokers.j_cheesecake.calculate = function(self, context)
                if context.loyalty_remaining then
                    if context.every then
                        if context.hands_played_at_create then
                if self.ability.name == 'Cheesecake Bomb' then
                    self.ability.loyalty_remaining = (self.ability.extra.every-1-(G.GAME.hands_played - self.ability.hands_played_at_create))%(self.ability.extra.every+1)
                    if context.blueprint then
                        if self.ability.loyalty_remaining == self.ability.extra.every then
                            return {
                                message = localize{type='variable',key='a_chips',vars={self.ability.extra.chip_mod}},
                                chip_mod = self.ability.extra.chip_mod
                            }
                        end
                    else
                        if self.ability.loyalty_remaining == 0 then
                            local eval = function(card) return (card.ability.loyalty_remaining == 0) end
                            juice_card_until(self, eval, true)
                        elseif self.ability.loyalty_remaining == self.ability.extra.every then
                            return {
                                message = localize{type='variable',key='a_chips',vars={self.ability.extra.chip_mod}},
                                chip_mod = self.ability.extra.chip_mod
                            }
                    end
                end
            end
        end
                end
            end
            end```

[royal ether]

do you have loyalty_remaining in config.extra

and chip_mod in config.extra

[royal ether]

you need loyalty_remaining

looking at ur code

[worldly sapphire]

loyalty_remaining instead of remaining?

[royal ether]

probably a different param? whatre you using remaining for rn

[worldly sapphire]

idk, i just copied from loyalty card

[royal ether]

add a loyalty_remaining = 3

also when you copy code, dont just copy it, read it and understand it

oh wait loyalty_remaining might be a loyalty card hardcoded var

[worldly sapphire]

invisible joker uses it

[royal ether]

you might need to change self.ability.loyalty_remaining to self.abilitt.extra.loyalty_remaining

yea but its probably also hardcoded for invis joker

personally put every single var i want on my joker in extra because of the way set_ability works

[worldly sapphire]

i did put extra between all the loyalty_remaining

right now

i could probably use seltzer as base?

because it decreases hands

i can just add the loyalty_remainings in there

if its possible?

[royal ether]

maybe

just experiment with it

fastest way you'll get an answer

[oblique gust]

guys in which source file did they define the formatting {} stuff like {C:} s: E: etc.?

cuz i want to change smth related to https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1240614180592156742 myself

[royal ether]

globals.lua

[oblique gust]

ok got it √

[plush lodge]

hey ive been thinking about creating a mod but i dont understand lua or have much time to learn it, if anyone wants me to give the concept for a mod to them while i help provide ideas please dm me

i can probably work on some art but im not that good at it

[random sleet]

ah the "idea guy" gambit. bold move, lets see if it works out

[plush lodge]

yeah i just dont know how to code

well i mean i know the fundamental stuff just not the language

[random sleet]

lua aint hard

[narrow pollen]

it's not hard, just... different

[plush lodge]

it would be a relatively simple mod idea but i dont really care much if nobody accepts the offer

just an idea i had

[royal ether]

ur best bet is to just post it in modding and hope someone picks it up

[rough furnace]

Thoughts on crash logs improvments

(it adds more useful info on the first line error, and the stack trace is a bit different for mods)

The stack trace mods did lose their name's and just show id's now

I might be able to get the name back, but it would take some work

is this fine?

anything else you may want?

[frosty dock]

looks good

[oblique gust]

well i just checked that but i cant really find the part where the {E:(number)} got defined but only the colors

[zealous glen]

What are you looking for exactly?

[oblique gust]

like the slide-in effect of jokers' names

want to see if i can slow it down by descreasing a number or sum

[zealous glen]

Try looking for control.E

[oblique gust]

ok

alright found it

thanks!

[night pagoda]

How do I properly determine which pattern to use when injecting with lovely?

like if I want to put something here do I use this whole thing as a pattern and put position = 'after'? Not sure how to use multiline things as a pattern

[frosty dock]

oh that's a tricky spot

you definitely need a regex pattern there

i usually just play around with different captures using vscode search until i find something that's unique

[night pagoda]

so most of the time I simply should search for a spot where it is easy to inject?

[zealous glen]

I think you can get around it by patching in an elseif

[night pagoda]

yeah I really need an example

[zealous glen]

It depends what the whole block of code is like

[night pagoda]

I stole this pattern from the steamodded itself and it's working just fine

not sure if I put something here that's not required

I have no idea what match_indent does

[zealous glen]

Me neither

[frosty dock]

steamodded has a card:update hook you can use already lmao

match_indent basically takes the indentation of the matched line (so any leading whitespace) and prepends it onto each non-empty line of the payload

[zealous glen]

Can you see the output anywhere?

[night pagoda]

alien language

[frosty dock]

Mods/lovely/dump

I assume you copied from this patch? you can just use that hook

[night pagoda]

yeah

wdym by use it?

default injection?

[frosty dock]

what this patch does

[night pagoda]

sorry if sounds stupid, I just have no idea where to check all that stuff

[frosty dock]

is that is allows you to define a function on the object you're creating

that will execute in Card:update

SMODS.Joker {
  key = 'cassette',
  -- blah blah blah
  update = function(self, dt)
    if self.VT.w <= then
      -- ...
    end
  end
}

[night pagoda]

ohhh, awesome!

[frosty dock]

btw your code has an issue where you're changing the center itself and not the Sprite's pos, which means it will affect copies of the same joker as well

i.e. you cant' have one cassette on A and the other on B, visually with this approach

btw is this confusing?

[queen scroll]

maybe mention a few of the keys that can go directly into config rather than config.extra

[night pagoda]

how can I reference the sprite of individual card?

[frosty dock]

self.children.center

you can set the pos with self.children.center:set_sprite_pos(pos)

[frosty dock]

eh, i feel like that's just more confusing

extra is fine to always use

[zealous glen]

I think you should mention it

Especially for backend like this

[queen scroll]

maybe just include some examples from the base game

[night pagoda]

hell yeah

[random sleet]

based

[maiden phoenix]

Oh thats so cool! Btw is there something for set_ability too?

[frosty dock]

yeah

[zealous glen]

Huh? Wasn’t there one in 0.9.8?

[frosty dock]

I'll compile a list of all such available functions in docs, it's kind of all over the place without that

[frosty dock]

hm, not sure on that one, but idts

[maiden phoenix]

But like is it inside the SMODS.Joker or its still the ol' way?

[remote coral]

Can the mixtapes be on different sides in practice or is that just to show off the two sides

[zealous glen]

I’m pretty sure it’s on the 0.9.8 wiki

[night pagoda]

in theory yeah, it flips on discard, and if you get something like showman you can buy non-flipped one while the other one is flipped

[frosty dock]

hm

restarting is broken, huh

[native osprey]

having trouble with the morespeeds mod, I want to have x5 instead of x3 and x6 instead of x4 but when I make changes and select the speeds in the game, back out of the main menu then back into settings the speed has been reset to 1x, I only changed the x3 to x5 and x4 to x6 values in the mod itself, what am I doing wrong?

[frosty dock]

you probably missed changing a value

mind sending the modified file so I can have a look?

[frosty dock]

change G.SETTINGS.GAMESPEED == 3 and 5 or to G.SETTINGS.GAMESPEED == 5 and 5 or

same thing for the next line

G.SETTINGS.GAMESPEED == 4 and 6 or should be ``G.SETTINGS.GAMESPEED == 6 and 6 or`

[native osprey]

thanks

curious as to what the logic is, I thought it was that option accepts 4 OR 6