💻・modding-dev

[frosty dock]

lol

[narrow pollen]

this should at least print the type of card created to the debug, right?

[zealous glen]

If it’s not nil yeah

[frosty dock]

i should make this eternal so it's literally just bait

you can never use it

[mellow sable]

lmao

The Fool but you're an actual Fool for buying it

[zealous glen]

Name it “I Pity The”

[frosty dock]

gonna push the stuff i have in a min, apparently I also forgot to actually save doing the register call in __call, maybe I accidentally did that in the lovely dump

[narrow pollen]

I WAS CODING IN THE WRONG VERSION OF THE FILE

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-piplup-water-dizzy-anime-gif-16660593

ohhhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyyy goodnessssssss

[frosty dock]

glad we got that sorted out

[narrow pollen]

yep

PEBCAK error, moving on

[night pagoda]

any ideas how to do that?

[golden lake]

slabs my belouved

[maiden phoenix]

Should be

[night pagoda]

my bad, I want to use debuffed cards in scoring*

these are checked for discards and other things

[maiden phoenix]

looping through context.scoring_hand doesn't work?

[night pagoda]

if I'll loop how I'd make the right timings for each card then?

[maiden phoenix]

So you want context.individual?

[night pagoda]

intended effect is super simple: gain $ for ""scored"" debuffed card

yep

[random sleet]

you almost definitely need to use injection there

[edgy reef]

Yeah debuffed cards are excluded from context.individual

[night pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-ok-gif-23395164

[edgy reef]

hmm

[night pagoda]

that's sad

[edgy reef]

A need to check for debuffed cards...

Ok nah

Way too much lovely patching

You are evil for this LocalThunk

[night pagoda]

oof

[random sleet]

oh shit debuffed cards automatically count the blind as triggered?

fuck

[night pagoda]

yep debuffed cards shake blinds

[random sleet]

that means 🔂 will trigger matador ughhh

[zealous glen]

They look like a comfortable place to rest for a bit

[random sleet]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[random sleet]

couldnt you make a new context after the card_eval_status_text here

[edgy reef]

Actually

yeah I could

[austere schooner]

i think this is more dev channel than general mod chat
how on earth would i go about figuring out what is causing this crash when creating a planet card(? it happens randomly in the shop, opening planet packs, and when using high priestess) when i cannot read the whole error message as it is more than 2 screens long

the line of code it points to appears to be in the middle of a vanilla function so (?)

aha, it's spat out in the console

[frosty dock]

hm, where is create_card being called from?

[austere schooner]

i do not know since this isn't something i'm trying to develop, this is... some nebulous mod problem, somewhere

[edgy reef]

Steamodded 1.0 has a much better error screen plus you usually don't need the whole thing to figure it out.

[austere schooner]

and i'm trying to figure out which one it is without just resorting to the brute force method of hacking out mods until it starts working

[frosty dock]

if there's no lovely patches to that file, this means G.GAME or G.GAME.banned_keys isn't defined

which shouldn't be the case during a run, so maybe that's not it?

[edgy reef]

If only [*temporary] gave us value names...

[austere schooner]

something about the UNAVAILABLE in the _pool seems really suspicious

[edgy reef]

OH YEAH

The line right after indexes _pool

[frosty dock]

possibly I'm too tired to make any sense of this crash

[frosty dock]

_pool can't be nil though

[edgy reef]

This is a horrid error to debug

Even more horrid without lovely injection brute forcing.

[golden lake]

pretty happy with this so far (mockup, not ingame)

the little Mind symbol in the upper right

[random sleet]

hell yeah

[golden lake]

balatrostuck is gonna go hard as hell

Aspects, Zodiacs, a bunch of new Jokers

new Vouchers, new Tags, new Blinds, new Deck

[hoary sand]

what do zodiacs do?

[random sleet]

unique scaling effects for each rank of card

[gilded narwhal]

What percentage done would you say you're at rn

[rough furnace]

Some tips for reading crash logs:
The first 2 (labeled [1] and [2]) are not relevant (they are the game's and love2D's crash handler's. (These won't show in the new handler, and only sometimes shows now)
After that, you should look at just the first line's. If there is a steamodded mod, it will be labeled (in this case, 4 is from Deluxe Consumable Cards, and there are other consumable cards after it). If there is a mod here, chances are it's related to the crash. If there isn't any, then you can take a look at some of the other lines. If something modded is going wrong, it may have a string tied to it. In the 3rd one, there is "Spectrum" which i know is a modded hand (and maybe something else). As such, it may be worth taking a look at the mod that provides that.

[edgy reef]

Just to ask, is there a reason why [*temporary] shows up instead of variable name?

[golden lake]

moving on from Jokers to Aspects rn

[golden lake]

yyep

examples

[random sleet]

i assume at least one level in cancer is required

[golden lake]

yes

[rough furnace]

Probably but I don't know it. My guess is it just doesn't get the info.

[golden lake]

also get it, Libra because Justice

[gilded narwhal]

Are these implemented yet btw

Because these are in the consumable slot

[golden lake]

working on them

[hoary sand]

does 8 only affect lucky and glass cards?

[golden lake]

it also affects jokers that roll probabilities on 8s

ie it will affect bloodstone proc on an 8 of Hearts

[hoary sand]

what rank is missing btw

[austere schooner]

I was shuffling my mods in and out of my mods folder to try and diagnose what mod it was and it... stopped crashing

even after I put them all back in

[golden lake]

a few, working on it rn

[hoary sand]

no like

[austere schooner]

so I'm convinced there are ghosts in my game

[hoary sand]

13 ranks vs 12 zodiacs

[golden lake]

also Aspects also have this cool formula display

[edgy reef]

Dev moment

[golden lake]

there's 13 zodiacs

[edgy reef]

We love nonsensical crashes

[golden lake]

you're forgetting ⛎

[hoary sand]

ohhh

[golden lake]

also you know things are about to get real when you get summation of level hands

level 10 -> 55 hands

[gilded narwhal]

Progress is going wonderful

[random sleet]

fixed it

(if anyone's confused, the important thing is that Matador doesn't count the cards debuffed by 🔂 as being "the Boss Blind triggering")

[narrow pollen]

there we go!

bear in mind, it's going to be based on odds

this is just for debug purposes to make sure it'll work right when i implement it

for context: vagabond spawned a stars card while i had lusty joker

[slow ocean]

awesome stuff

[hoary sand]

𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑓 𝑏𝑎𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑟𝑜 𝑗𝑢𝑚𝑝𝑠𝑐𝑎𝑟𝑒

[mellow sable]

idk how these checkboxes are perfectly aligned but it's satisfying somehow

[golden lake]

ok this does it we need a config tab for mods

i am NOT cycling 20 menus

[mellow sable]

I think that will be in SMODS API at some point

but it isn't now

[edgy reef]

I did the thing

[random sleet]

its the font for mtg cards

[gaunt thistle]

steamodded rebrand to smod?

I love how dorky steamodded is

[mellow sable]

no

that's just the abbreviagtion

[gaunt thistle]

gotvcha

(I was drying to vread disgimforgation)

[north prairie]

so i would assume this is the only way to go about making custom joker textures?

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/tree/main/example_mods/Mods/NegateTexturePack

I just wanna change a single card

I don't have an issue with using the whole spritesheet i just wanna see if there's an easier way

nvm i just found the wiki

[fading blaze]

"Once a fool, always a fool."

The Eternal Fool ™️. Available now at your local Modded Balatro Shop.

[mellow sable]

putting seals on decks is fun

[shell timber]

+$3 whenever the deck effect triggers

[fading blaze]

I wonder if this would give $3 every time a card is forced to be played face-down (certain blinds have the ability to keep cards face-down in the hand, so...)?

[mellow sable]

in-game this makes all the cards gold seal

[fading blaze]

Oh!

[mellow sable]

the gold seal is purely cosmetic on the deck back

[fading blaze]

insert the Medic from TF2 screaming "FREEEEEE MONEY!!!" here

[mellow sable]

I love how Lua lets you do things like this:

G.playing_cards[c]["set_"..self.effect.config.force_sticker](self);

[edgy reef]

what da

[mellow sable]

basically instead of using separate eternal/perishable/rental functions I can just get the function like this

and it just works

[azure wraith]

justice: the deck

[short surge]

meanwhile me trying to destroy every card of the deck

[rough furnace]

Thoughts?

[fading blaze]

I need the opinion of someone more familiar with LUA scripting.

Which is easier:

Making a LUA script to edit the existing effect of an asset (in this case, changing an existing Tarot card's effect) to something else,
or
Creating a duplicate asset (visually looks the same but with a different effect) and removing the vanilla version of the asset from ever seeing play?

[rough furnace]

Steamodded lets you take ownership of an existing asset, which i think also lets you change its effect and text

[fading blaze]

Huh... is there some sort of plugin/interface to Steamodded that I'm just not aware of and not using properly?

[rough furnace]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/Creating-new-game-objects#modifying-existing-objects-present-in-the-base-game

Although as a warning, Steamodded is in the process of a major update that is going to change like everything, so this might change soonish

[fading blaze]

Ah.

Perhaps it's for the best I hold off on making any LUA code...

Well then I guess until Steamodded gets that overhaul, I've done everything I can for my own StarSuit mod.

[rough furnace]

well you can use that api now

[fading blaze]

But if they're going to change "like everything" about Steamodded's syntax, functions and the like, I might as well not confuse the heck out of myself when I will eventually be forced to update any of the LUA scripting to 1.0.0.

Personally, I can be patient for the 1.0 release of Steamodded if that means less of a headache trying to get things working a second time.

[narrow pollen]

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

i hate how difficult it is to pass localization into 1.0 alpha steamodded

[crisp coral]

does any mod create dummy playing cards and destroy them afterwards

[wild gyro]

i think morefluff blade dance does something like that

where it adds temporary steel cards

if thats what you mean

[crisp coral]

hm

i'll look into that one because that sounds broken lol

but not what i meant

[wild gyro]

yeah thats the closest thing i know of

[narrow pollen]

i think there's a sleeved ace around here

not sure if it's released but

there it is

also sorry for pinging you on reply

[queen scroll]

guys i figured out how lua’s debug library works, my power has become unlimited

i made cards held in hand trigger their played abilities

(ignore the fact that it crashes if you add a line space to the start of one of the files)

[narrow pollen]

man

i just

want to have

this text

defined in the game

[royal ether]

iirc feders tone cards might be what your looking for

[crisp coral]

hmst

[gaunt thistle]

I desperate for need Mac user help shell script lovely arm64 n x86

[golden lake]

morning modding-dev

i got my hands on some sour patch kids today

the sourness keeps me awake

[narrow pollen]

WE BALLIN

[frosty dock]

could also give the star its own tooltip

[narrow pollen]

that's what the fourth line is for, but... yeah, fair.

[frosty dock]

yeah ik

i just thought maybe it looks cleaner in a separate tooltip

[narrow pollen]

maybe; we'll see if {T:#5#} works like you might hope it would.

[golden lake]

what does the T: do

[narrow pollen]

tooltip

[golden lake]

huh

[frosty dock]

does it? it's only used in decks iirc

it inserts the vouchers or whatever that the deck starts with from their key

i think you have to add to info_queue for tooltips

[golden lake]

yee

info queue is like, literally fine thou

also update on sour patch kids: i hate the red ones

[royal ether]

i dont think it does

[golden lake]

raspberry is NOT a sour-compatible flavor

[royal ether]

i think i tried it before

[golden lake]

what is "the graveyard"

[royal ether]

oh gog did i double send i hate mobile

[crisp coral]

purgatory

[golden lake]

myst which is your least favorite sour patch kid in sour patch kids

[crisp coral]

i do not know what sour patch is

[golden lake]

you dont know sour patch kids?? the fuck

[crisp coral]

please put down your pitchforks

[royal ether]

im pretty sure the {} formatting is parsed before what vars you put into #n# so it doesnt work

[golden lake]

yeap

[narrow pollen]

yeah, i figured that's how it went

so i'm HOPING this works

[royal ether]

i tried it with text colour and it didnt work, hopefully maybe {t:} works

[crisp coral]

soon™️

[royal ether]

does this imply i can summon cards from my graveyard in attack position

[crisp coral]

spin2win

[golden lake]

haha it wont

you wanna see how the game does colors for planet levels?

its fucked

[last fractal]

wow very nice :)

[golden lake]

    elseif _c.set == 'Planet' then
        loc_vars = {
            G.GAME.hands[_c.config.hand_type].level,localize(_c.config.hand_type, 'poker_hands'), G.GAME.hands[_c.config.hand_type].l_mult, G.GAME.hands[_c.config.hand_type].l_chips,
            colours = {(G.GAME.hands[_c.config.hand_type].level==1 and G.C.UI.TEXT_DARK or G.C.HAND_LEVELS[math.min(7, G.GAME.hands[_c.config.hand_type].level)])}
        }
        localize{type = 'descriptions', key = _c.key, set = _c.set, nodes = desc_nodes, vars = loc_vars}

[royal ether]

yea i know...

[crisp coral]

reading comprehension failure

[royal ether]

ive dug into it....

[golden lake]

i still barely get this

[golden lake]

should i send booga to the blast zone

[crisp coral]

absolutely obliterate booga

[royal ether]

wait theres a colours sub-loc-var?

[golden lake]

correct, its wild

[royal ether]

why the flip am i not using this

[crisp coral]

what the fuck

[golden lake]

here's what Planet localization looks like:

            c_mercury = {
                name = "Mercury",
                text = {
                    "{S:0.8}({S:0.8,V:1}lvl.#1#{S:0.8}){} Level up",
                    "{C:attention}#2#",
                    "{C:mult}+#3#{} Mult and",
                    "{C:chips}+#4#{} chips"
                }
            },

[royal ether]

wait so is that what S and V are

[golden lake]

S is scale

[royal ether]

oh

[golden lake]

V i guess stands for var?

[royal ether]

then im assuming V is 1st var of colours

wait this changes everything

but im gonna forget by the time i get back xdd

[frosty dock]

{V:n} is nth var of colours

[royal ether]

ya thats what i meant bad wording

[golden lake]

oh god that's awesome

i'm gonna cook with this

Thank you localized thunk

[royal ether]

localize{thunk}

[golden lake]

people think
is a joke about

local thunk

when in reality its a more layered

localize {'thunk'}

joke

right time to put on some music and add those damn level displays (for now without color)

[frosty dock]

local thunk = localize{'thunk'}

[narrow pollen]

...you know, i think i do like this more, actually.

(and yes, this effect is shared across all other "Suit Mult" effect cards, for their respective tarot card)

might even make it affect generated playing cards, as well

[calm nova]

Anyone know how to get the injector for balamod?

[golden lake]

haha no

[calm nova]

Yea I’m confused

[narrow pollen]

what i think was meant by that, is that balamod is quickly falling out of favor with many mod devs

and isn't prioritizing cross-compatibility with steamodded or lovely

[calm nova]

Ahh I see oh well wanted to try the seals they have lol

[narrow pollen]

not for anything it did wrong, just that more people used steamodded

[calm nova]

Makes sense

[golden lake]

it did do one thing wrong

existed in the same category as steamodded

[calm nova]

Damn 😭😭

[frosty dock]

lmao

[royal ether]

😔

it works with lovely guys...

i havent limit tested its lovely compat yet tho

as for steamodded compat, it kinda works a little...

[random sleet]

balamod ambassador:

[royal ether]

the injector is in github.com/balamod/balamod/releases

[golden lake]

cringe..

[royal ether]

theres a beta version for a ui installer at github.com/balamod/balamod-lua/releases

but that one is balamod 1.0+ which breaks older mods

i think theres only one (1) balamod 1.0 mod that exists rn

[random sleet]

akai ur cringe

[crisp coral]

i forgor balamod existed

uhm i'll update mystblinds for balamod after finishing this mod

[royal ether]

😔 im not cringe i swear...

[crisp coral]

arach ur cringe

[royal ether]

😭

[zealous glen]

why bully arachnei

[royal ether]

oh yea balamod 1.0 makes smod compat way more plausible too

[random sleet]

its ok clodsire has unaware

[royal ether]

:clueless:

[random sleet]

ayo

gy and discard pile could both be things in this game... confusing
....

[royal ether]

the secret is that theres nothinf above "^ the actual mod"

[crisp coral]

discard pile is discard pile

graveyard is not discard pile

done

[random sleet]

i know lol

it makes sense to me but would the average balatrian get it

[royal ether]

we're becoming yugioh

[crisp coral]

balatrian? did you mean balapal

[random sleet]

also please please please please make this an api

[crisp coral]

maybeeeeeeeee

[golden lake]

i thought you hated coremods..

[crisp coral]

i'm totally not doing anything devilish with this

[golden lake]

true colors show

[random sleet]

no aure hates coremods

i hate scrollbars

i literally made oddityapi lol

and will make usable jokers

[zealous glen]

Usable or playable?

[random sleet]

usable

[zealous glen]

👍

[frosty dock]

hm

[crisp coral]

i guess?

[golden lake]

repo component when

[frosty dock]

maybe™️

[random sleet]

component component when

Oh!

with consumable rarities, Baseball Joker will activate on uncommon consumables. is this changed in smods?

[frosty dock]

you can avoid it by using a key for your rarity that is not 2

(rarity keys are allowed to be anything)

(note: needs testing)

[random sleet]

ok so its on me if i want to use common/uncommon/rare/legendary

[golden lake]

Aries my beloved

[short surge]

btw guys pls ping me when 1.0 is out officially, if i may request

[random sleet]

no

i will unping you

[frosty dock]

a

[bold osprey]

what's Aurelius7309 discord name ? He changed a bit my sound.lua but I do not agree with the changes that could cause some problems

[frosty dock]

that's me^

[bold osprey]

welp that solves it x)

In sound.lua you changed SMODS.findModByID(modID) to SMODS.current_mod
if people don't call it at the beginning (likein a function tho idk why they would do that lmao) or old mod that depend on it may not work

[frosty dock]

well findModByID doesn't exist anymore in 1.0

[bold osprey]

@_@

[frosty dock]

I don't care about breaking old mods since it has breaking changes anyway

[bold osprey]

There's no replacement to it then I guess ?

[frosty dock]

you could index SMODS.Mods at the provided ID, but I don't see a use in calling register sound global at any time except during load

that change was mostly to prevent it from causing crashes because that function doesn't exist

[bold osprey]

DO they call it in init ?
Outside of init ?
Not in a function that's for sure

[frosty dock]

my guy steamodded is getting a full rewrite

there is no more init

[bold osprey]

I guess they just put it there okay

[random sleet]

your whole mod is the init function now

[golden lake]

lets gooo

[random sleet]

sick

akai i have a dumb idra

[random sleet]

♈ ♎ ♏ etc as balatrostuck emojioker compat...

[frosty dock]

look it's better than crashing if that function is used at all

[bold osprey]

yeah yeah I know

[zealous glen]

Can I give two templating suggestions?

[bold osprey]

I just want to know where they put it so that I can update instructions on my side

Unless of course you want to maintain that

x)

[golden lake]

sure?

[golden lake]

REAL

[random sleet]

i just dunno how exactly itd work lol

[frosty dock]

I'm currently undecided whether I should make more changes to it, and instructions will definitely be added to the steamodded page

[zealous glen]

“Each [RANK]” avoids pluralization which looks a bit weird especially when a number is highlighted but the S isn’t.

“Level Up” should be highlighted in some way, maybe even in a different box. The level number before level up is also confusing IMO

[royal ether]

isnt nun before level up how base game does it

num*

[golden lake]

literally is

[zealous glen]

It might be, I still think it looks weird here

[bold osprey]

The only one I feel like is worth revamping is the Replace sound, and the modulate_sound could be optimized

[zealous glen]

Just because the base game does it in a certain way doesn’t mean I have to suggest you follow it

[royal ether]

i think if you do something the user can see, it should be formatted similarly to base game

descriptions especially

[zealous glen]

I think you should do as good as or better. If you do better that’s preferable to doing the same

[frosty dock]

well I was thinking I might port it to the new API system in place, but I'm not sure if it's not just better to keep it similar to vanilla syntactically

[zealous glen]

Also planets always give the same numerical upgrades, rather than unique text to each of them. I think the amount of information you need there is small compared to this

Hand type, base Chips, and base Mult

[bold osprey]

For the function name, it just describes what it does and I followed the model that Itay posted when uploading it for the 1st time

[golden lake]

this is so gaming

also important wording "now give"

its showing you what effect it will have after you take it

Aspects and Zodiacs start at level 0 due to their weird nature

[random sleet]

i think the "level up" part in planet text is part of the sentence i.e. "level up full house"

[golden lake]

oh true

i might move it then

to the start

[random sleet]

or just give it a subject

like [lvl.4] Level up 4s

or whatever the appropriate terminology for your stuff

[golden lake]

lets see then

this better then?

[zealous glen]

Now it looks like it will only work if you’re holding 4s

Maybe “all future 4s”? “Each future 4”?

[random sleet]

[golden lake]

that sounds good

[random sleet]

i still vote [lvl4] Level up <rank>

[golden lake]

oh this is tasty

[crisp coral]

👁️

[shell timber]

crazy with glass cards?

[frosty dock]

you'll see what I mean if I end up doing it

[crisp coral]

this is just a test joker, might not exist anymore down the line

[golden lake]

a joker that scales with your graveyard..

@frosty dock would running calculation logic in the consumable only work if said consumable is present or

[random sleet]

pleasepleasepleasepleasrpleadrpleaspeleadprlepaslepalaprlepalslrplapsrpls make this an api

[golden lake]

cause idk if i have to manually override calculate func

to make my dreams come true

[crisp coral]

dont worry the graveyard will be

A Separate Thing

™️

[golden lake]

yooo

nice

[crisp coral]

also this surprisingly worked first try lol

except logic errors but i wouldn't count that

[golden lake]

btw myst how would you solve my conundrum

ie. having calculation logic that pertains to playing cards

but works very joker-esque

but isnt a joker, rather a passive effect

im mainly concerned about safely overriding calculate_joker() without breaking it

because then I can set up sth like what Observatory does

[frosty dock]

yeah

[golden lake]

ok so how do i safely override calculate_joker

[bold osprey]

By loading it beforer anything else

XD

Priority to -10000

x)

[frosty dock]

well the else block is already patched to using end_calculate_context

[zealous glen]

Can’t you just hook to it?

[golden lake]

no because half the time it ends up breaking

[zealous glen]

↖️Clueless

[bold osprey]

Whats 'the code ?
You sure you can't hook it with tons of conditions ?

[frosty dock]

there might be some technicalities, idr if it checks if it's a joker at all?

[crisp coral]

uhm yea just calculate_joker it

[zealous glen]

I mean, I suppose you could use lovely patches to add a custom calculate function in specific places

[golden lake]

its completely decoupled from all other contexts, because its about treating held/played cards as Jokers

[crisp coral]

or put it as a separate function near the calculate_joker calls

[royal ether]

cant you hook whatever it uses to calculate playing cards then

[zealous glen]

Maybe if you hooked calculate_joker but like

function calculate_joker(context)
    custom_calculate(context)
    return calculate_joker_ref(context)
end

[golden lake]

im stumped by this one because the one time i tried doing an override it just broke everything else

could try?

[zealous glen]

Playing cards trigger before Jokers so the timing works well

[random sleet]

use lovely

inject stuff

[zealous glen]

After learning how to inject I’m getting worried if I’m doing it too much lol

[random sleet]

never

[crisp coral]

graveyard has 108 lines of lovely.toml rn

[random sleet]

is that all?

[crisp coral]

let's ignore the entirely copied view_deck function in the main lua and say yes

[golden lake]

local calculate_joker_ref = Card.calculate_joker
function Card:calculate_joker(context)

    if self.ability.set == 'Default' or self.ability.set == 'Enhanced' then
        if context.cardarea == G.held and self:get_id() == 4 and G.GAME.BALATROSTUCK.zodiac_levels['Cancer'] >= 1 then
            return {
                mult = 4
            }
        end
    end

    return calculate_joker_ref(self, context)
end

should this work

[random sleet]

playing cards dont calculate joker?

[golden lake]

neither do planets yet here we are

[crisp coral]

planets do calculate joker

[random sleet]

planets do calculate joker

[golden lake]

then what am i supposed to do if youre so smart

[crisp coral]

calculate jokers the playing card

[golden lake]

yeah thats what im literally doing

aghh

[crisp coral]

oh my god vendetta broke now uggggggg

[golden lake]

im asking if what im doing should theoretically work

[crisp coral]

yes if you call calculate joker on the playing cards

[golden lake]

is that what im doing

or are you thinking of sth else

[maiden phoenix]

I put 10$ on Myst

[crisp coral]

g.hand.cards[1]:calculate_joker idk

[random sleet]

you have to call the function somewhere yeah

[zealous glen]

Except for the loop, you could loop inside the hook

[random sleet]

also why not just make your own func at that point tho

calcjoker on pcards will probably lead to weird incompat

[zealous glen]

Maybe a lovey patch to occur before the loop would better

[golden lake]

im going to cry oh my fucking god i just want to do something on a playing card

[crisp coral]

i'm sorry i'm not much help i'm outside rn 😭

[random sleet]

and im at work

you need to inject a call for this im like 90% sure you cant just arbitrarily do random things

[golden lake]

where is the question WHERE

this sucks

[random sleet]

in evaluate_play

have fun

[shell timber]

what do steel cards do?

that'd be where i'd look

[random sleet]

increase a property of the card

technically aries could be done with the unused hmult parameter

but other ones will need a better solution anyway

[crisp coral]

this is stupid

[frosty dock]

lmao

[random sleet]

this is where all the scoring magic happens fwiw

[golden lake]

wha

[random sleet]

sup

i think thats what its callrd

its in functions/state_events.lua i think

its an enormous function

[queen scroll]

oh yeah i remember dealing with that one today

it has no useful internal functions to wrap so i had to learn actual hooks in lua

[random sleet]

lovely is right there

[queen scroll]

my mod is on steamodded

[blissful coyote]

whoa

[queen scroll]

i don’t want people to have to get lovely to get my mod

[frosty dock]

you do

steamodded is gonna require lovely literally next release

[queen scroll]

oh

huh

[random sleet]

might as well learn to lovely now

[random sleet]

i assume the idea isnt for the card to be unusable

[queen scroll]

can i still copy and paste the source code files into the bottom of main.lua to make it work instead?

also how do you just add lovely code to a steamodded mod?

[random sleet]

have a lovely.toml as well

technically its more like have a lovely mod and a steamodded mod bundled together

[queen scroll]

yeah that sounds awful

[random sleet]

me when i oppose change for the sake of opposing change

[queen scroll]

i think i’ll just stick to the debug library for now

[frosty dock]

it's better than replacing the function fully in most cases

(view deck UI as an exception)

(I still converted it to lovely)

(it's probably inefficient)

[queen scroll]

i don’t have to, with lua you can add hooks that run functions when certain line numbers execute

[frosty dock]

that sounds unstable against lovely patches from other mods

[queen scroll]

how so?

[frosty dock]

do you literally give it a line number?

[queen scroll]

yes

[random sleet]

because lovely literally changes the lua code being executed

[queen scroll]

oh

[frosty dock]

yeah that breaks as soon as I chanhe any line before yours with Lovely in that file at all

[queen scroll]

you’re kidding

why though?

can i request lovely reformats all changes to single lines so i don’t have to reprogram my mod?

[frosty dock]

no

[random sleet]

no

[queen scroll]

:(

[random sleet]

just use lovely

[random sleet]

this but again somehow

[queen scroll]

sorry idk

[frosty dock]

look, say I use a pattern patch to inster initSteamodded(), and you use your method to change some line after that in game.lua

your method is now one line off

[queen scroll]

yeah ik

[random sleet]

"can i request that thing with established usage fundamentally change how it works so i dont have to use something every user will have anyway?"

[queen scroll]

it wasn’t fully serious, i’m just kind of annoyed

[crisp coral]

this is a stupid thing for fun

[queen scroll]

just bc i can’t use lovely in my normal coding environment so i won’t be able to work on my mod nearly as much

[random sleet]

whys that

[queen scroll]

i have steam on my pc and use my laptop for coding, so i run love2d’s mac version on the decompiled source code

[random sleet]

uh
cant you just install the game properly

[frosty dock]

^^

[random sleet]

and then install lovelysmods

[frosty dock]

that's not something we can support here unfortunately

[random sleet]

like that sounds questionably legal, even.

[queen scroll]

wait what?

how? sorry i genuinely don’t understand

[frosty dock]

there's a rule here that's literally "don't debug source code"

it's not piracy since you own the game, but it's not really to be discussed here

[random sleet]

tbf i am not smart

[frosty dock]

your approach is an awful lot like attaching a debugger to the game

but tbf no one knows exactly what thunk means by that rule

[random sleet]

and additionally it sounds like the most convoluted way to... do something you could do anyway?

[queen scroll]

last time i checked there was minimal lovely support for mac, has that changed since?

[frosty dock]

that has in fact changed

[random sleet]

theres like seven people who did it yesterday

[frosty dock]

if it's not well documented as of now, it still exists

[queen scroll]

oh, great

[random sleet]

i know because it was like all modding-chat was for a few hours lol

[queen scroll]

if you know anyone who has can you tell me so i can ask?

[frosty dock]

For 1.0 I definitely want to make sure there's easily accessible install instructions for all platforms right on the github page

[random sleet]

@fading blaze seems the most knowledgeable (ping intended)

[queen scroll]

cool, i’ll have to go to sleep soon so i’ll look back at this in the morning

[random sleet]

i didnt even think this many regular people owned macs...

[frosty dock]

lmao

now what's a regular person

[queen scroll]

my school requires me to choose between an average macbook and the crappiest windows laptop on the face of the earth

[shell timber]

it can't be that bad

[random sleet]

like fr i have never ever just ran into someone who has a mac as a personal computer (that im aware of ig) until being here

[shell timber]

i used to have a mac

[fading blaze]

Ah hey, sorry-- was about to get some much-needed shut-eye... at 6:30 in the morning. As it turns out, I've had Balatro for less than 10 days, and I've already spent more than 50 hours playing that game...

[shell timber]

it lasted quite a while actually

[random sleet]

thats fine, get some rest

[queen scroll]

if anyone wants to give instructions maybe post them in my thread https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1230062664437338182 so I can actually find it tomorrow

[queen scroll]

np at all

[fading blaze]

I'll try to be back online in a few hours.

[random sleet]

you might be able to search chimi's messages to find help they distilled to other users

cheese is heading off anyway so i dont think its much trouble at all

[queen scroll]

yeah

i do need to go now, hopefully i’ll be able to figure it out soon

i’ll actually probably hold off until smod 1.0 anyway

[narrow pollen]

epic

[random sleet]

why j_gluttenous_joker wiggle

[hoary sand]

the gluttenous wiggler

[random sleet]

thiccler

[crisp coral]

sticking out your glut for the wiggler

(i'm sorry

[random sleet]

also i figured out an alternative to setting 33 pool flags every frame

[narrow pollen]

not the exact same joker, but it's present on all four of them

the seed would have given me a sun card, but the joker effect rerolled it into clubs

[random sleet]

i see

maybe a card_eval_status_text would help express that

[narrow pollen]

well, yeah. i'm probably gonna work on that next

there's also a timpani sound that plays but i guess the sound got corrupted on that recording

[random sleet]

(i can just set them before create_card)

[wild gyro]

this is cool

[gaunt thistle]

General warning to mod devs - I'll be changing how lovely is distributed for this next update.

No more uploading straight binaries, instead they'll be within zip archives

[zealous glen]

What are the flags for?

[random sleet]

deck state; ensuring jokers that only work if you have particular cards in your deck only appear if those cards are present

[red flower]

hii I've been making a mod for myself to make joker info visible on the screen
has anyone done something like this? is anyone interested?

[maiden phoenix]

Haven't seen something similar, looks cool!

[edgy reef]

Cool QOL mod for base game

[narrow pollen]

nice!

[random sleet]

that looks pretty cool, i'd be down to add support for it to my mod if such is possible

[golden lake]

yippeee

ie if you play 3 cards and one of them is a 6, the other 2 cards get +6 chips

permamently

[random sleet]

oh does the Zodiac badge do the same thing the Aspect badge does

[golden lake]

yes

[random sleet]

i'd probably try to put the word "permanent" in there somewhere if that's a hiker-like boost

[red flower]

yeah it's kinda annoying to have to hover every time especially for stuff like the idol, I'm also not the best at remembering what jokers do

[golden lake]

it is yea

[red flower]

thank you ❤️ it should be pretty easy to add new stuff

[random sleet]

funny boilerplate code

[narrow pollen]

i think a better way to word it would be:
All scored 6s permanently grant +X chips to scoring cards of other ranks.

or actually

Each scored 6 permanently grants instead of All scored 6s permanently grant

that way, it's more clear that it works on retriggers

because retriggers are just a second "when scored"

[golden lake]

that's not what it does

it distributes

a total of 12 chips

so if i play 2 cards, that's +12 chips on that other card

+6 on 3 cards

[narrow pollen]

ahhhhhhhhhh i see

[golden lake]

+4 on 4 cards

[random sleet]

can it handle 5 other cards?

[golden lake]

+3 on 5 cards

[golden lake]

no

[random sleet]

i see

[golden lake]

actually hm

i could bump it up to 60 chips

then it would

it needs to be a number divisible by 2,3,4

ok sure actually

+60 chips is kinda cool

actually no

that's gonna be busted with levelling

this is my way of saying "screw you 6 hand selection mods"

[slow ocean]

oh swag

[golden lake]

the basic gist of it is that it'll give the chips to every card played but itself

but it can also boost other 6s

just not itself

so 5oak 6s is like, really really good for chips

because every 6 is technically getting the full +12

and that number grows by 12x where x is level

[random sleet]

i had a weird idea to put more cards in the played hand but i havent even tried implementing it yet so /shrug

[golden lake]

also gonna start working on these @slow ocean

Disciple is next

[slow ocean]

🫡

please post when done

i mentioned disiciple and my wife got activated

[mint tundra]

i want to make a mod how would i get started

[golden lake]

read the source code of other mods

read steamodded wiki

read Balatro source code

[mint tundra]

where do i find the source code

[golden lake]

btw Lyman what do you think of the new design as a whole

for the Zodiacs

[slow ocean]

i really f with them

did you change some of the colors

it looks more faded (in a good way)

[golden lake]

yeah i contrast adjusted

also hm

i kind of want to make the LE ability relate to Capricorn ability, Heart ability, Sagittarius ability and give it busted Straight synergy

ie trap the 4 souls inside of that damned puppet

also I love how this entire card category is literally just a massive Straight buff

like, you can play a 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 -10 Straight and get +3 chips on each card, 1.1x Mult, double probability on a Lucky 8, even more Chips, and crazy XMult (provided you have no held 10s)

[candid cloak]

I heard people say creating new enchantments is impossible but apparently people are also doing it in the Ortalab mod place?

[frosty dock]

enhancements are definitely possible

editions are a different story

[golden lake]

you cant make enchantments this isnt minecraft

[frosty dock]

^^

[wicked brook]

God I cannot wait for this mod. This looks sick.

I'm working on my own mod currently, it's small, but it replaces all tarot cards, planet cards, and spectral cards with Binding of Isaac-themed cards.

[candid cloak]

We're modders. Reality can be whatever I want.

[broken vine]

Just look at jellymod (do not do this. But jellymod did make like 10 new enhancements)

[golden lake]

also custom editions are possible, you just need to be well-versed with shader code

[frosty dock]

rule of thumb, don't use jellymod as a reference

[broken vine]

Lol its funny because it was like that at the start and even more so the longer it ages

[frosty dock]

well tbf it hasn't changed

[candid cloak]

negative regular cards

[golden lake]

also Balatrostuck is way too big hot damn

look at this

[candid cloak]

can they work?

[wintry solar]

shader code is just understanding how to manipulate colour values with maths

[maiden phoenix]

Holy shit...

[random sleet]

is there some specific reason for this? i was under the impression people have cracked this and its just a matter of shaders being obnoxious

[candid cloak]

For the Ortalab mod, a Perkeo where regular cards are negative would be really cool but can we pull it off?

[golden lake]

you have seen the Octet, right

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209506360987877408/1232273029854134272/2024-04-2308-38-17-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[candid cloak]

what the fuck I'm tripping

[maiden phoenix]

Yes I did

[golden lake]

welcome to Balatrostuck

every card is like that

[frosty dock]

yeah it's just shaders being shaders from what I'm aware

[golden lake]

Everything is like, way too stupid

[candid cloak]

Do you have a google sheet? The art is so pretty

[golden lake]

thank you I made 95% of it

also uhh Aspects

[random sleet]

pictured here: card you didnt do the art for 😂

[wintry solar]

shaders gonna shade

[golden lake]

yeah

i did do like a substantial amt on the Aspects and then Yokcos came and did the rest for the bgs

[candid cloak]

Are these for Ortalab?

[wintry solar]

yes

[random sleet]

oh i meant the Land of Heat and Clockwork

[golden lake]

oh yeah ik

[zealous glen]

There is an EnhancementAPI

[random sleet]

someone should figure out how to make shaders shiny based on card angle like vanilla ones

[candid cloak]

what's an api

[random sleet]

a word that gets thrown around to make people look cool

[slow ocean]

every steamodded mod is an api

[candid cloak]

Cooler you say?

[slow ocean]

:^)

[zealous glen]

Usually it’s a programming library to allow interacting with another program/service/etc.

[maiden phoenix]

Me when I made NoAPI 😏

[slow ocean]

hey i contributed to NoAPI

[maiden phoenix]

True tysm

[golden lake]

btw Lyman I might need your help doing a Joker for GAME OVER

[random sleet]

ughhhh why is the twemoji sorting so bad

[golden lake]

i have the rough idea and some drafts but I might need your assistance

(it involves le animatione)

[zealous glen]

For Balatro modding people are calling mods that serve to help other people make mods APIs

[candid cloak]

Are the proportions of your Disc Portrait Jokers body custom?

[random sleet]

:AAAAAAAA:

[slow ocean]

animations you say?

[slow ocean]

are you talking about my profile picture

[candid cloak]

Yeah

The body looks very natural

[slow ocean]

the body was hand drawn yeah

[random sleet]

disc portrait jokers....

[slow ocean]

oh discord

i was so confused

butane fumes meltin my brain

[random sleet]

so true jestie

[slow ocean]

the head is also slightly bigger than normal jimbo

its more rounded

[golden lake]

yess

i want to do the fucked up stardust gliches

[frosty dock]

hell yeah

[golden lake]

lets go??

[random sleet]

sick

[slow ocean]

ive ran out of coding juice for the forseeable future but i am always willing to help out with art

[golden lake]

aure would you like an out of date tag

[random sleet]

mod version number should probably be on the mod menu somewhere

[zealous glen]

What’s up with the inequality signs?

[maiden phoenix]

Draw me like one of your jimbos

[frosty dock]

yeah i should add that

[golden lake]

i did post my mockup

[candid cloak]

I'm only here because I'm a Joker Artist Amatueyr all the fancy cards you all got

[random sleet]

i can't do art either thats why im making this dumb emoji mod

[frosty dock]

version has to be at least 1.0.0, but no higher than 2.0

[zealous glen]

That’s not what’s written though

[random sleet]

teaser

[candid cloak]

Btw Balatrostuck do you have a collection outside of the game of the Jokers/Joker art?

[frosty dock]

assuming semver, that just means I need version 1.x

[slow ocean]

you can probably find my art on a couple of mods here and there

[frosty dock]

yeah actually it's a troll

it can't happen

[broken vine]

Ultimate Jimbo Dating Sim version should increase every time its posted

[maiden phoenix]

Why's that Ortalab's icon

[random sleet]

why is ortalab an anime girl

[candid cloak]

Can you mod in the stickers like eternal or rental

[slow ocean]

its their mascot ig

[golden lake]

because I made Ortalab's icon

duh

[maiden phoenix]

No but like

[zealous glen]

Dig-Dug from Namco High?

[maiden phoenix]

Why a random head

[frosty dock]

rn it won't even show up if it's out of date, having it show up with its own tag might help

[candid cloak]

You did? That's really cool

[zealous glen]

Oh “duh” not “dug”

[golden lake]

its their mascot

[frosty dock]

also i want to sort the list in some way

[maiden phoenix]

huh

[wintry solar]

🤷‍♂️

[slow ocean]

i like the sprite but like

[frosty dock]

like mods that had issues loading will show up first

[worldly sapphire]

can someone help me add a new joker? i am new into lua modding 😅

[golden lake]

yeah i've suggested that too

[random sleet]

no i dont think anyone's ever done that before

[zealous glen]

I think you could give sorting options. It could be confusing if the mods changed places between the time the user looked at it

[slow ocean]

honest critique: i think ortalab would be a lot more of a complete package if it didnt have some design decisions to incorporate some stuff based on like, ocs and stuff im not sure how to articulate

[golden lake]

i think mods with errors should always show up first

[fair inlet]

that head aint random it’s Shinku (don’t ask me why)

[slow ocean]

stuff like that and virtue always struck me as weird

the art ive been seeing for it is gorgeous though

[hoary sand]

why did they pick virtue btw

[golden lake]

Neptunia thing

[slow ocean]

yea

crimson just likes neptunia

[golden lake]

I honestly dont mind

it's fun

[slow ocean]

i dont know what i would have picked to be an inverse of joker so i cant say much

[golden lake]

i literally made this card lmao

[maiden phoenix]

rekoj

[slow ocean]

(maybe jester)

[frosty dock]

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/wiki/Creating-new-game-objects#creating-jokers useful resource^^ otherwise, having a look at the game's source code and other mods is recommended

[candid cloak]

What part of Ortalab will take the most time to mod in the gard?

[maiden phoenix]

Negative of it about to flash blind

[fair inlet]

i mean virtue is indeed an antonym of joker to an extent so that’s a coincidence

[slow ocean]

let me fetch my tier list of modding things into the game

its not really an antonym though?

like a joker is not inherently sinful

one could argue that being mirthful is a virtue in of itself

but thats just semantics

[golden lake]

its about to flash the blind regardless

[candid cloak]

Humour should be punished by death

[worldly sapphire]

i'm gonna check it out

[maiden phoenix]

How does it look like in negative?

[zealous glen]

Accountant

[wintry solar]

I also don't understand the ortalab mascot or some of the design decisions but you roll with it

[frosty dock]

my 7oak:

[slow ocean]

reposting this here

[slow ocean]

lymans tier list of making stuff from easy to hard:
easy -
challenges
texture packs
decks
jokers
existing consumables
vouchers
suits
blinds
new consumable types
seals/enhancements
hard -

ui shenaigans
||node[2]||

[fair inlet]

sounce: google search

i mean it’s an antonym so 🤷‍♂️

[slow ocean]

what website even is this lmao

[zealous glen]

Where do events and animations go?

[wintry solar]

looks like wordhippo

[zealous glen]

Not like sprite animations

Event animations

[slow ocean]

probably in ui shenanigans but i'd get newts take on that

[wintry solar]

no editions because glsl lol

[zealous glen]

I don't think so

I haven't touched UI just the event manager

[slow ocean]

i have little knowledge of the event manager tbh

i just recite the ancient spells that make it work in source code

[zealous glen]

Me neither

[candid cloak]

I should probably buy the game considering how much time I've spent on fanwork

[zealous glen]

This still needs work

[random sleet]

i think thats what we all do lol

[maiden phoenix]

It's funny because your use of create_card planet all use the 8 Ball key 😅

[golden lake]

i know some of the stuff to the extent that i can add custom stuff

[hoary sand]

but does it work with glass joker (/j)

[fair inlet]

erosion too

[zealous glen]

Does it trigger when destroying Glass with Hanged Man?

[candid cloak]

Negatives shaders are already a thing, so why aren't negative base cards like King and Ace a thing too?

[zealous glen]

I made an API for that

But it's unreleased

[wicked brook]

I'm so excited for a full homestuck deck.

:)

[hoary sand]

yeah (according to the wiki at least)

[golden lake]

have you seen the Aspect slabs @wicked brook

they'll appear here to show you your current Aspect

[wicked brook]

I have not! I only just joined this server because I'm working on a full isaac reskin for basically every card in the game.

[random sleet]

will the aspect slab wiggle when the effect triggers

[golden lake]

that's sick i'm adding that

and it was my idea /j

[maiden phoenix]

I can't wait to play BalatroStuck with jokers, consumable, badges, trinkets, relics, artifacts, passive items, active items, secondary items, curses, blessing, sacrifices-

[wicked brook]

I love how they're cracked just like the sacrificial slabs in the comic proper.

All of them look super cool. Who did the pixel art for it?

[golden lake]

i did

like 95% of it

[wicked brook]

They look awesome!

I'm really excited for that mod.

[golden lake]

the other 5% are 6 jokers and some aspect backgrounds

btw the effects on Aspects are uh

very normal

[zealous glen]

@candid cloak

[golden lake]

@wicked brook

[maiden phoenix]

Oh my bad I forgot level ups too

[zealous glen]

It should work but last I checked the interaction with Canio was broken (due to dark event magic)

[wicked brook]

All of those are insanely powerful and I am so excited

[golden lake]

summation on Space/Time is really fun

level 1 Time is just +1 hand, but level 3 Time is +6 hands

[zealous glen]

Sigma Space players

[golden lake]

this is also why Aspects will have a tremendously low shop rate

Because they're all broken as all hells

[maiden phoenix]

Just got an idea for a mod from the crap I'm saying but I shall wait for steamodded 1.0

[worldly sapphire]

where exacly i put a new joker?

[random sleet]

me when i make aspect tycoon :smug:

[maiden phoenix]

Mega Aspect Pack 😏

[zealous glen]

For Steamodded 0.9.8, inside the init function

[worldly sapphire]

like, i'm confused, it's my first time modding the game wihtout even knowing the language lol

[zealous glen]

Check the Steamodded wiki

[worldly sapphire]

i was checking it

and i'm still confused

[zealous glen]

Also this https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1228599493914656788

[worldly sapphire]

the only thing i know is just replacing the game base images

[hoary sand]

i'm never removing another background ever ever again

[broken vine]

impressive, although curious what it would be for. a enhancement, maybe?

[zealous glen]

a gift?

[hoary sand]

it's so i can turn it into a gift 💀

[maiden phoenix]

That's it, no more copying joker

[broken vine]

oh right, i forgot your body of work lmao

[wintry solar]

it has mouse interaction!

[long gust]

edit the coffee circle out of brainstorm and challenge people to see what's wrong with it

[broken vine]

like with literal 40+ gifts made lmao

[hoary sand]

i might release all of the backgrounds i've gotten as a mod in their own

[frosty dock]

how's this

[golden lake]

yesssss

[random sleet]

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

[frosty dock]

maybe it's not enough contrast

[golden lake]

now add version as light gray scale 0.8 parenthesized text after mod name

btw what do we think about Sag effect chat

i think its funny

basically if you play a hand and it has a single nonscoring 9, all scoring cards get +25 chips on top of their regular value

[hoary sand]

like hiker style?

[golden lake]

nope

hiker style is this

[wintry solar]

uh oh

[golden lake]

6s are about slow, but permament growth

9s are about quick, flash in the pan power up

[frosty dock]

how

[golden lake]

node[2]

[hoary sand]

flashbang edition

[golden lake]

also yeah nyxbird what do you think

[fair inlet]

ow my eyes

[hoary sand]

i think the phrasing is weird for sagittarius

[frosty dock]

UIBox_button doesn't care to support multiple text sizes

[golden lake]

how so

[golden lake]

is color supported?

[frosty dock]

also only single color

[hoary sand]

i'm not really sure, it was just hard for me to parse initially

also it seems a bit weaker than the other zodiacs

it's an interesting effect though

[random sleet]

oops

[worldly sapphire]

i can't make it work. idk if i need to put a effect to work?

[random sleet]

uhhhh what lol

[maiden phoenix]

Stop with the dark magic it's too dangerous

[wintry solar]

is there like a debug console I can spit stuff out to?

[random sleet]

thats better (card description is inaccurate, rn it's set to reduce blind by 100% when sold)

[random sleet]

if you're using Lovely, you can print to the terminal window that opens with print(...)

[maiden phoenix]

Free win for free

[wintry solar]

I am not using Lovely 😦

[crisp coral]

should Graveyard be released early (only the Graveyard itself, no API) or wait until most API features are finalized

[random sleet]

api stuff

[crisp coral]

autumn i expected that answer from you

:p

[random sleet]

[random sleet]

but yeah the point here is that i made a blind reduction effect that can win the blind when it triggers

[maiden phoenix]

Thats neat, know some mods that have blind reducing effect but doesn't instawin afterward

[wintry solar]

I think I solved it! \o/

[random sleet]

it requires setting the game state for things to go smoothly, and it's not the most intuitively named thing

[maiden phoenix]

So cool 👍

[crisp coral]

oh heck that's cool

[random sleet]

(granted it's unneeded for the intended effect of this card but i figured i'd get it out of the way early right)

[hoary sand]

brainstorm more like um. braingift?

[random sleet]

the actual effect of this card (concept from @slow ocean 💟 )

(the status text will be fixed lol thats my bad)

[narrow pollen]

anyone know why my played hand sorts itself by rank when played instead of remaining the order they are in the full hand? i have tried everything to sort it by the card's x position, and i haven't even modified the hand type i'm currently playing.

[slow ocean]

youre bepic autumn

[wintry solar]

anyone able to help me understand this code?
self.ARGS.send_to_shader[1] = math.min(self.VT.r*3, 1) + G.TIMERS.REAL/(28) + (self.juice and self.juice.r*20 or 0) + self.tilt_var.amt

in card.lua

[zealous glen]

Well, something is calling a sort function that isn’t dependent on the cards’ position. IIRC the game defines a local sorting function to visually keep cards in the right order when they are played

[zealous glen]

What don’t you understand?

[zealous glen]

I think it’s a syntax error

[wintry solar]

what is self.juice? and generally how does this value change over time?

[random sleet]

juice is what juice_up changes

basically any time a card wiggles from an effect proc

[zealous glen]

☝️

[wintry solar]

okay cool

so is this value just increasing steadily whilst the card is being drawn?

[zealous glen]

It’s not a value but an array I believe

Which contains information about the scale and rotation of the card

[random sleet]

i don't actually know exactly how it works but surely juice_up's function would be helpful to reference

[zealous glen]

Maybe other information too

What Autumn said

[random sleet]

i was worried 🗝️ might be overpowered but this seems to indicate otherwise

[worldly sapphire]

i tried to follow the tutorial, and still got the error

[wintry solar]

wait thats an array?

[narrow pollen]

there we go, i realized i was negating that by sorting the hand in rank order to check for straights

[wintry solar]

man I am so out of practise in lua

[worldly sapphire]

i'm still starting so its normal for me to mess up lol

[random sleet]

"self.juice.r" would indicate that self.juice is a table with named keys

[narrow pollen]

(it's just easier to do coding-wise when the hand is sorted by rank, even with the "next" function)

[random sleet]

one of which is r

[worldly sapphire]

tbh i am good at making crosscode mods

[zealous glen]

Which I believe is related to the rotation of the card

But this is lowercase R not uppercase

So idk

[wintry solar]

yeah I was looking for the rotation of the card passed to the shader

[zealous glen]

Take another look at you code, and maybe Lua syntax

[random sleet]

this entire argument is all stuff about rotation

[worldly sapphire]

like, i used another mod code as base

[zealous glen]

What do you think? (I'd also appreciate art comments)

[random sleet]

what swaps

[zealous glen]

"rank 7 or lower"

[wintry solar]

yeah that's what I thought, and when I access it in the shader code it works fine but it slowly turns into that black and white horror after a minute or two

[maiden phoenix]

rank ace or higher 😏

[wintry solar]

it could be the way that shader is being hacked in I guess

[zealous glen]

It's just "7 or lower" and "8 or higher"

[wintry solar]

let me try loading it properly

[random sleet]

the G.TIMERS.REAL component would be the culprit there

[maiden phoenix]

Awn

[random sleet]

i assume the intention is that the argument is used in a trig function like sin/cos

[wintry solar]

oh snap yeah of course

brain fart

[maiden phoenix]

Actually I understand the gimmick

[zealous glen]

Yay!

I had this idea during the demo

[maiden phoenix]

Why not make the inactive text (swaps to 8 or higher each hand) or something?

[zealous glen]

@worldly sapphire it's missing the header and assets but this works #⚙・modding-general message

[maiden phoenix]

So that people know what they'll get?