💻・modding-dev

[zealous glen]

I think it's either align_card or Card:draw() that hide the card front while it's in the deck, but I'm not sure

[ruby geyser]

Off PC now but purple one is invisible joker but it makes a joker negative instead of copy one, Pride Jimbo is +0 mult, gain +1 mult when you play a hand, resets back to 0 if you play a straight or straight flush

[zealous glen]

do you know about the Gay mod

[zealous glen]

Also you showed Dream Joker before

it was cool

[ruby geyser]

I do, perhaps I'll make it reverse the effect if that mod is installed lmao

[zealous glen]

Make it so any hand works 🤔

[zealous glen]

I figured out a solution even though I'm not quite sure why it happens. I assumed it was align_card, so I hooked Card:flip and added a new variable to force cards to face forwards

er, "frontward"

[zealous glen]

Balatro source code:

[frosty dock]

chat

this mod badge shouldn't be here, right?

[stable coral]

That should be intentional
I’ve seen other modded badges on vids before.
It’s just visual and to tell what’s part of what mod

[frosty dock]

I'm the one who made these badges...

I'm just asking if y'all think they should be removed from undiscovered object

to me, it looks out of place

[zealous glen]

Did you manually move the cards or did you reuse the existing function for it?

[silent sinew]

nah i think its good to tell when one mod starts and another ends even if its undiscovered

[night pagoda]

imo it's out of place

there's mystery behind which mod is that from

[mystic ocean]

does anyone know what the current replacement for findModByID is? if any?

[zealous glen]

I agree

[frosty dock]

for 1.0?

[mystic ocean]

yea

for latest commit

[frosty dock]

none, SMODS.Mods is indexed by ID

[silent sinew]

i mean, if it was the last mod loaded, you'd be able to tell anyway so might as well lol

[frosty dock]

the previously numerically indexed SMODS.MODS is now SMODS.mod_list

[mystic ocean]

Ohhhh!

[unkempt thicket]

quantum flux is working as intended :0 [finally]

[zealous glen]

Casual 700 cards

[unkempt thicket]

yes very casual

[frosty dock]

just pushed the fix for consumable type collection pages

surprised it wasn't more scuffed

[night pagoda]

what is the function that makes you go to the shop after you win a round?

[zealous glen]

I don't know but I suspect it's a state

Try seeing what happens when the round ends

There was a function for that, I think if you look for game_over you should find it

[night pagoda]

hmm

[gilded narwhal]

Yo I'm just looking at the source code for fusion jokers and I'm gonna try to make one for practice but what is G.GAME.probabilities.normal

[zealous glen]

It's what makes Oops! All Sixes work

[mystic ocean]

ok issue found
the custom sound api shipped with steammodded is broken because there isn't a findModByID method anymore. if you replace it by looking in mod_list, ordering is all fucked up

because you can't call register_sound_global in an init method (you don't know if it's been put in the list yet)

[zealous glen]

@frosty dock

[mystic ocean]

maybe there's some way to wait until the mod has been put in the list before executing code in it idk

[frosty dock]

alright good to know, I have to update that anyway

[mystic ocean]

sounds good

maybe registering a mod's sounds could put it in a list for the api to iterate through and do it's stuff to after all the mods are done being set up?

[short surge]

I made a bunch of modifications

Basically hijacks the play function

[narrow pollen]

...how the hell does {V:x} localization work...?

ah, that's what it is!

[frosty dock]

it draws from loc_vars.colours

[narrow pollen]

yeah, i realize now that i need to give it a colour variable

[narrow pollen]

so i'm trying to pass this table as loc_vars

which, with this formatting, should return "Hearts" in the game's Hearts colour

right?

[frosty dock]

yeah

[narrow pollen]

it does not do that.

it crashes.

[unkempt thicket]

shouldn't this work (I referring to artist, everything else works fine)

[frosty dock]

i smell old API format

[zealous glen]

Do you think it could help me improve this animation?

(Also I just realized I broke Canio… I think I know why—The Tumor was destroying cards which were drawn to hand, and with the way I solved it I think maybe Canio calculates at the wrong time and misses everything.)

[gilded narwhal]

Hey guys how does one give yourself jokers

[unkempt thicket]

debug

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1209857245316255744

[unkempt thicket]

i figured it out

[narrow pollen]

that took... WAY too long to figure out, holy--

[zealous glen]

@odd dock what do you think?

[odd dock]

the animation is very funny, it looks a bit stiff and speeding up as it goes would help a lot if possible

[zealous glen]

I would like to make it less stiff but I have no idea how to do that. I figured out how to speed up animations, but it accelerates nonstop

Eventually the cards break before they can flip completely

Or even move

If there's a lot of them

[mystic ocean]

are there any up to date mods I could use as examples?

[odd dock]

if possible make it so it waits for a moment after flipping to start the destroy animation

[zealous glen]

I can continue to try fiddling with time. I don't understand how delays work. Maybe a combination of long delays with acceleration would work.

I also received the feedback one preferred when the entire deck blew up at once. Which I like too, but I don't know how to make that look good

[odd dock]

the entire deck blowing up is very funny but the way you're doing it now looks way better

either way is fine ngl

[mystic ocean]

use the deltarune explosión jpg

[lusty orchid]

I'm new to modding, so sorry if this is really simple but how do I check the current hand's score for a joker? I tried to look in source code but I don't think any vanilla jokers do it.

[zealous glen]

What do you want to check?

[lusty orchid]

The total score for the hand that was played, I'm essentially trying to check if the little fire effect is active, but I'm doing that by checking if the hand's score is greater than blind requirement

[zealous glen]

Maybe try looking at how the game computes if there's fire or not?

I'd first look at the final check to see if you won a blind or not, because there you can find the relevant globals

Search for game_over because that's the context for Mr. Bones

[lusty orchid]

I checked in the fire code and whatever variable it uses didn't work, I'll check the blind win check though, I hadn't thought of that

oh wait, that uses total chips, not hand score

is there a way to get just the current chips and current mult? maybe I can just multiply those

[zealous glen]

I think it computes total chips over time

So at the time you look into it it should be current chips

But you should check that

[lusty orchid]

it uses G.GAME.chips, which is the same as Mr. Bones. I'm not sure what it actually represents but I tested it and it didn't seem to trigger the effect at the right time

I think the joker may check it before the current hand's score is added to it

[zealous glen]

Possibly the timing is incorrect because you're evaluating at the wrong moment. Also possibly it's due to events.

[lusty orchid]

I think it's just that G.GAME.chips stores the total chips scored this blind, not just the score of this hand.

[zealous glen]

Ah, if you want the hand score you probably need to track it manually because I think it adds each change individually as they happen

As the UI clearly shows

Balatrostuck has a Joker that does something similar, but the mod is unreleased

[royal ether]

you can get current hand chips by just doing mult*hand_chips

you just have to make sure you check it at the correct time

mult and hand_chips are global i think

[zealous glen]

Wouldn't you also need Xmult

or x_mult

[royal ether]

no

[zealous glen]

(both exist)

[royal ether]

because mult*hand_chips is the value shown on the left

[lusty orchid]

oh I didn't know those were global

I'll test it rq

[royal ether]

so as long as you check at the correct time, you should be good

[lusty orchid]

oh yeah, context.after might trigger after the mult and chips are reset, or at least visually I think it does

[royal ether]

oh context.after might actually work

i think it only visually resets

[zealous glen]

Understanding when code runs and when events run is difficult

[lusty orchid]

It works! Thanks guys

[royal ether]

its just a trial and error thing

balamod makes a log file every time you start the game, and i have thousands of them

[zealous glen]

Any suggestions? I made an animation earlier and it was trial and error but I kept reintroducing issues

[royal ether]

idk specifics, but if trial and error isnt working, you might just be understanding something wrong. i usually just dig deeper into source code if trial and error isnt working to see what specifically is happening

[zealous glen]

I'm not understanding anything :)

[zealous glen]

I did make this look okay-ish while making it stop working with Canio in the process

Digging deeper into the source code becomes more difficult when there are more degrees of separation between where you are and what you're looking for

Like the code for accelerating animations is completely separate from the code running animations, except implicitly by setting global variables at key moments

[royal ether]

i mean, when you want to do things that are fundamentally new, you gotta get in there. just gotta be patient, i guess

taking breaks is nice too

[zealous glen]

New for the modding scene

[royal ether]

speaking of breaks im going on vacation tomorrow for a month so i wont be around until june :3

[zealous glen]

I did take a break from addressing that older issue (accelerating animations). It was only a few days ago when someone suggested I look for a specific game state that I found the relevant code

[zealous glen]

Have fun on your vacation!

[odd dock]

have a nice vacation

[royal ether]

i wish i finished tier 1 sap so i could like, demo release it but i burnt out a couple days ago 😔

[zealous glen]

Have you made other mods?

[royal ether]

yea, theyre all on my github

fortune & miscellaneous cards

[slow ocean]

ill queue up the balamod acolytes in your absense

[golden lake]

Lyman

did you see the stupid scaling of Tanglebuddies

High Card:      +1  -> +2      -> +4
Pair:           +2  -> +10     -> +154
Two Pair:       +4  -> +20     -> +308
3oak:           +4  -> +145    -> +46234
Straight:       +5  -> +10     -> +20
Flush:          +5  -> +10     -> +20
Full House:     +6  -> +165    -> +46388
4oak:           +10 -> +5914   -> [phone]
Straight Flush: +5  -> +10     -> +20
5oak:           +34 -> +409114 -> +9.392e10

[slow ocean]

the factorial one

[golden lake]

yes

this is like

if this hand gets retriggered 0, 1, 2 times

this is how much it scores

in +Mult

[slow ocean]

true horrorterror levels of mischief

[golden lake]

Also hear me out

a Joker that retriggers a hand X times where X is the hand's planet level divided by two

Wait

that should be the Cascade effect

[slow ocean]

oh thats

[golden lake]

holy shit +naneinf mult is gonna be real

[slow ocean]

real

[golden lake]

I love how technically with 2 hacks

a 5oak of 2s can

break into +Mult e

:)

[silent sinew]

fuck i just remembered i need to do blueprint compat stuff for balatrotale

i completely forgot thats like kind of an important aspect of adding jokers 😭

[slow ocean]

its not too hard

[narrow pollen]

do you mean "every scored card" when you say "each hand"?

[zealous glen]

I did make a Joker which I think works with Blueprint but not Brainstorm lol

[golden lake]

correct

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1229122387308707930/1236487611024150548/2024-05-05_02-23-41.mp4?ex=66383053&is=6636ded3&hm=ca71024d1e73d96838994a7bebad6dbdc72b0f523b1706f2f9b9ba06f62ade79&

+inf Mult

[silent sinew]

is it possible to make a spcific vanilla joker use a different atlas without taking ownership of it

[mellow sable]

Oops! *factorials your mult*

[golden lake]

im nerfing Cascade to every 5 levels

it also makes more sense with Homestuck theming

given that Cascade is end of Act 5

[rough furnace]

Cascade when I have telescope and a bunch of blue seals

[golden lake]

the design of balatrostuck is very normal

[narrow pollen]

it's more fun to design mods with that mentality of "i want this to get naneinf if the planets align"

sometimes literally lol

[blissful coyote]

cascade buddies to the moon

[narrow pollen]

that's why i'm so proud of what i did with square joker

yes, it gives ridiculous amounts of chips if you play a couple dozen hands that are exactly 4 cards

[golden lake]

i find it hilarious that the joker that can break the game very hard very fast is a common

because as far as its ability goes, it is a common

High Card:      +1  -> +2      -> +4
Pair:           +2  -> +10     -> +154
Two Pair:       +4  -> +20     -> +308
3oak:           +4  -> +145    -> +46234
Straight:       +5  -> +10     -> +20
Flush:          +5  -> +10     -> +20
Full House:     +6  -> +165    -> +46388
4oak:           +10 -> +5914   -> [phone]
Straight Flush: +5  -> +10     -> +20
5oak:           +34 -> +409114 -> +9.392e10

the chart

[mellow sable]

I’m making a mod designed to be unbalanced lmao

[golden lake]

mathisfun do you like my tangle buddies

[narrow pollen]

i mean... i changed it to rare

[mellow sable]

Yes

[golden lake]

do you think the reasoning of it being common because its really bad unless you retrigger a bunch and have secret hands is reasonable

[mellow sable]

Quadratic scaling is fun

[narrow pollen]

yeah, it kinda pigeonholes you into specific builds unless you have other jokers to synergize with it

already i'm thinking cascade and splash is fuckin busted, but retriggers on their own don't take you to the moon.

[narrow pollen]

look, if there's one base joker in the game that needs quadratic scaling...

and yes, it's rare and costs $9

[golden lake]

i am nerfing Cascade to every 5 levels btw like I said because I underestimated the power

5 levels is fair

[mellow sable]

There’s a huge concepting doc for the mod Im working on and one of the utility jokers is a joker that turns every scaling joker into quadratic scaling

So we’re buds

[golden lake]

tangle buds?

[narrow pollen]

yeah, 5 levels feels right, @golden lake

OH MY GOD I FIXED LOCALIZING

guess i don't need any of that fake localization code anymore, good-fucking-bye

[golden lake]

btw the reason Tangle Buddies are characterized as this really mundane effect that takes on power only at impossibly high retriggers is because in Homestuck the Squiddles (which the Tangle Buddies joker is referencing) are like, a kids TV show/plushies line that is actually a manifestation of eldritch beasts from the Furthest Ring, a place which is like, technically at the edge of known universe

[formal viper]

i think the equation is 3x+x^2 iirc

3am math better work

[shell timber]

it's just x^2 i'm pretty sure

it starts at 1

[formal viper]

the starting chips or the amount of chips gained

i just assumed starts at 0 chips amount of chips gained starts at 4

[shell timber]

starts at 0 chips, gain starts at 1

[formal viper]

ah

makes more sense

[queen scroll]

technically rocket scales quadratically since money persists between rounds

[mellow crag]

Jouce Up

[narrow pollen]

no, because it increases by the same amount

i made square joker increase by an amount that itself increases

[queen scroll]

well the rocket ability scales linearly meaning you money scales quadratically

[queen scroll]

oh interesting

[narrow pollen]

i suppose that's quadratic income scaling

but yeah, i gave square joker quadratic CHIP scaling

[wild gyro]

reminds me of morefluff triangle joker

[narrow pollen]

yeah, the parallel has been drawn

however, i seem to have be having trouble really caring 😛

[shell timber]

i also don't care

[wild gyro]

nah i dont care either

[mellow sable]

I'm surprised these kind of decks haven't been made yet (afaik)

[wild gyro]

why is there 2 sets of hearts

[mellow sable]

Steamodded 1.0.0 adds a fifth suit for some reason

[wild gyro]

tf

have you reported that

[mellow sable]

it's a dev versin

[wild gyro]

that seems off

[mellow sable]

like it's intentionally there

[wild gyro]

but why

[mellow sable]

ask aure

idk

[odd dock]

testing probably

hard to test suit api with no suit

[mellow sable]

I mean consumables also ceased to exist in 1.0.0

they were all dragged into this spectral's wormhole

[unkempt thicket]

I need some proton ideas, for its effect (I ended up keeping the design Lyman made (had to recode everything and didn't want the art to go to waste)) the first card could be interpreted with 3 different themes (probability, gambling, or changing score directly) so the second should also follow one of these themes as well.

[mellow sable]

1 in 2 chance to halve blind requirements

[unkempt thicket]

Btw the first cards effect is "Current chips fluxes between 90% to 135%"

[mellow sable]

that might be too similar then

unless you want the theme to be pretty close

[mellow crag]

Hey, I know this bubble…

[royal ether]

i just thought of a hellish idea for you to implement, photon does something different depending on if youre hovering over it or not

[tawny perch]

woah this came outta nowhere for me
this cool

[royal ridge]

reshuffle discarded cards back into deck?

[unkempt thicket]

i want a semi similar theme across the subatomic cards, like how Codex Arcanum is based on temporary additions.

[royal ether]

(i know its proton, i just misread it as photon and thought of that)

[unkempt thicket]

yes, you do :]

[unkempt thicket]

yea... I started it a while ago ran into some problems and put it on hold for a while.

[edgy reef]

At least this little robot helper survived the consumable annihilation.

God the bugs in Steamodded 1.0 are so funny

[near ivy]

"the base mult for [three random hands] is increased by 2% - 10% and the base chips for [three different random hands] is decreased by 5% - 10%" maybe?

could do the opposite for neutron too

could also maybe edit the values on the player's jokers for another one

[odd dock]

the spectral for them could be "change ante by -2 - +2"

"Cheshire" or something

[unkempt thicket]

i like the idea, but the consumables are supposed to have a higher chance to buff then debuff so it's worth buying

so i'll probably change a few numbers and use it

[odd dock]

i think the idea was that mult is more valuable than chips but yeah the numbers could prob be buffed anyway

[unkempt thicket]

I'll just flip the numbers so 5-10% for +mult, and 2-10% -chips

[slow ocean]

increase the rank of 2 selected cards by +3 to -2 ranks

[odd dock]

oh or if you wanna go more specifically with theming around this name maybe something like "next 0-3 sold jokers are duplicated and gain the Negative edition". based on this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_Cheshire_cat

[unkempt thicket]

if its 0 does it destroy itself on purchase?

[odd dock]

nono you use it and the effect lingers with no way of telling till you sell one

[unkempt thicket]

oh, so it also takes space in your inventory, and you can sell one of your jokers you like permanently

i like it

[scenic zenith]

what does debuff_card have to do with config

i cannot find this supposed use of config

[narrow pollen]

what you need to do sometimes, is open balatro.exe with winrar or whatever other zip program you have

[scenic zenith]

i do have that but there's no config call

also main.lua doesn't have 1917 lines

i figured out if i just don't call debuff_cards it's fine

now i just act like i do my part of debuff_card cause if i call the original it dies

[edgy reef]

Steamodded uses debuff_card append for blind API iirc

Probably something to do with that.

[royal ridge]

anyone know how draw_card works, or if it's even what i'm looking for? trying to make a joker trigger drawing cards (ignoring hand size) upon consumable use, but i'm not exactly sure how the function works

[silent sinew]

im kinda curious if there are any devs that aren't planning to update to steamodded 1.0

i feel like the syntax changes might scare some people off

[dawn valve]

I need to rewrite the code anyway tbh

[silent sinew]

i'm still in the process of rewriting balatrotale, right now i'm just changing a bunch of stuff at once and i feel like i'm going to accidentally delete something important because it's so repetitive 😭

[scenic zenith]

yo hi toneblock

[royal ridge]

heya

[scenic zenith]

i have made of the thing

funny

oh nice mistake

lmao

i can english

yes

[royal ridge]

dust bunny deck

[scenic zenith]

pretty much yea

[royal ridge]

:peaceline:

cool concept

[scenic zenith]

we're thinking of celeste-related things

cause celeste cool

still not sure if its busted

[royal ridge]

currently using celeste entities as joker ideas lmao

[scenic zenith]

Banger

We're basically gonna do the same

Join our team tbh

[royal ridge]

could merge my spaghetti code into your mod tbh

[scenic zenith]

Lel

I'll send you an invite if you wanna

We aren't very far yet

[royal ridge]

sure

are you using steamodded?

[scenic zenith]

ye

[royal ridge]

nice

[shell timber]

avocado:

• 6.022x10^23 mult once

[narrow pollen]

btw, gonna preliminarily nerf my 🔳 joker from starting at +4 chips (upgrades from +1) to starting at +1 (upgrades at +0)

[narrow pollen]

...where is "type mult" defined? anyone know?

[random sleet]

anyone know how to reference a joker's config in the alpha?
self.ability doesn't get the values mirrored to it and self.config.center has nothing of the sort in it anymore apparently

[mellow crag]

Autumn!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my god you’re back!

[random sleet]

ok i just have to use an extra table i guess

[frosty dock]

self.config.center.config should hold the base values

iirc you need extra if you want to have it consistenly copied to the Card

[random sleet]

i see

[narrow pollen]

how would i get a joker to visually trigger an effect twice?

[maiden phoenix]

If you mean Joker message there's card_eval

[proud pier]

are there custom card editions?\

[night pagoda]

Is there any function I can inject into that is called at the end of the hand scoring?

[shell timber]

Freaky

[proud pier]

how did you know

[night pagoda]

I need to do some things that are supposed to check your score after you score any hand

[shell timber]

because i've already made freaky deck

[zealous glen]

If it’s just visual you can call the function that makes it display a message directly

[frosty dock]

mod badges for dependencies?

[zealous glen]

I found out a context which is called after a hand is played and I’ve been using it to activate effects

[night pagoda]

Uhhh which function calls that context you found?

It's not for a joker

[zealous glen]

calculate_joker. But interestingly it uses context.main_joker which is the same context used by the Voucher that makes it so you always find the Planet of your most played hand. Which, you may notice, is a Voucher and not a Joker

[wooden nexus]

Guess who's back to archiving

[zealous glen]

Akai called it an invisible global joker, but I couldn’t validate that myself

[night pagoda]

Thank you!

[zealous glen]

I’d send the whole context but I just got away from the PC. If you look for main_joker you should be able to find it after scoring

[night pagoda]

I can't find anything by searching for main_joker

[zealous glen]

It’s probably joker_main

I never remember

[night pagoda]

found it, ty

[zealous glen]

That’s inside calculate_joker but there’s a call at the end of scoring

[night pagoda]

Unless I misunderstood something calculate_joker still gets called before the score gets applied

[zealous glen]

I’m not sure about the scoring, but it does get called after the hand is played and is almost finished evaluating

[night pagoda]

Wait I need evaluation function then I guess

[zealous glen]

Again I suggest looking for when calculate_joker gets called with context.joker_main if you haven’t.

[night pagoda]

it doesn't get called anywhere else in that function other than in the screenshot

[zealous glen]

I said “when calculate_joker gets called”, you’re looking inside calculate_joker

[night pagoda]

ahhh gotcha

I thought you were referring to joker_main for some reason, mb

[ruby geyser]

What do you guys think an appropriate upside to a joker that causes all random chances to not occur (super reverse Oops! All Sixes)

[zealous glen]

I am referring to when calculate_joker gets called with context.joker_main, which I believe happens multiple times despite it only being used once

[zealous glen]

There’s this #1234244231221084230 message

[night pagoda]

I see joker_main being changed in evaluate_play, I think that's it

[zealous glen]

There’s a call at the very end, yes

[queen scroll]

maybe scales whenever a random chance would otherwise be rolled

[ruby geyser]

Yeah, like a luck vampire

Curious if anyone else has had a similar idea to this - A card that changes its effect based on what slot in your inventory it is. If anyone else has done this, how do you hand the text?

[queen scroll]

not exactly the same but i have a joker that randomises its effect each round, you can check out the ai joker in my mod cheesy jokers

[ruby geyser]

So do you just keep the loc_text static?

[queen scroll]

yeah but i override the generate_uibox_ability_table function to make it display what i want

[zealous glen]

Outside of hooking a function to change a local variable, I think you could iterate over slots to see where it is during runtime

[ruby geyser]

My initial idea was to do this, I think I need to localise the output first

Much like localthunk, I hate switch statements

[zealous glen]

I think the easy way to do it is to use main_end

[zealous glen]

Does Lua have switches?

[ruby geyser]

Apparently not

[zealous glen]

To use main_end, create the object and make it the second output of loc_def

What you want is mostly text inside a column, though you need an extra column for the X controls

[queen scroll]

wait what???

you’re telling me i didn’t have to manually do that myself?

don’t you 👍 me you little

[frosty dock]

👍

[zealous glen]

👍

[queen scroll]

screw you

you know what

i’ve had enough

👎

[zealous glen]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-spinning-laundry-gif-15147601

👎 ♻️ 👍

[ruby geyser]

Might need an ELI5, like this in the definition?

[zealous glen]

Actually I’d also need a mirror

[zealous glen]

This is loc_def

Currently you return one output, you need to return two

The second has to be the actual object that will be rendered rather than just text

[ruby geyser]

OH

I get you now

so something like return nil, [Effect]

[zealous glen]

That’s one output

AFAIK

So return an empty table

[ruby geyser]

Should I be looking at Blueprint/Brainstorm for example of the UI element?

[zealous glen]

Here’s an example

[zealous glen]

That or Misprint

I don’t think you need the row if you only have one line

[ruby geyser]

One day I'll get an error because I fucked up my actual code and not just because I mistyped something...

[ruby geyser]

I feel like I'm missing something obvious here - I want the effects to start stacking if you have 6 or more jokers (so if pos == 6 then you get the effect of pos == 1 and =2, if ==7 then you get 1,2, and 3), is there a way to do that smartly or is it just gonna be unga bunga caveman if statements

[frosty dock]

So everything up to pos-4?

[ruby geyser]

Yeah

Returns terminate it looking through ifs right

[frosty dock]

if the effects are at all alike, a loop should do for that

you'll need to fake the message instead of returning it

card_eval_status_text or whatever the function for that is called

[royal ridge]

is there a context/g.state for when a round/blind is currently happening?

feeling a bit stupid rn

[crisp coral]

G.GAME.blind checks if a blind is active

iirc

[night pagoda]

G.GAME.blind and not G.GAME.blind.disabled

[royal ridge]

ty

[gilded narwhal]

Yo I'm kinda new to this but why is it giving XERROR

[maiden phoenix]

What's in your loc_def

[gilded narwhal]

OH I KNOW WHY

Mb

[hoary sand]

my army grows

[patent bough]

these are so good

[rough furnace]

Half gift

[unkempt thicket]

how do I increase the mult or chips of a hand type? (without leveling it up)

[rough furnace]

I think you can just set them, but iirc, leveling up will reset them to what they should be

[mellow sable]

Yeah, you have to change the level up code to be relative

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/blob/main/lovely/Universum.toml

[near ivy]

the ones for the mult/chips-for-hand-type jokers with 5 cards look kinda cramped, you may wanna break those up into groups of 3+2

[mellow sable]

I do this here if you’re curious to see how (this joker makes planets give Xmult/Xchips instead)

[scenic zenith]

Anyway to quickly get the voucher i made to test it

[odd dock]

debugplus

[scenic zenith]

what button is it

i tried looking through but i see no way to reroll vouchers

[odd dock]

same as spawning jokers but you have to be in the shop

[scenic zenith]

oh

nice

[odd dock]

they don't get insta redeemed just put in the shop

[scenic zenith]

that's nice

i think they work but i should prob add an animation lmao

[mint beacon]

since I dont really see a answer to this, I might as well ask directly here, but if I update the game, and re-install steammodded everything should still work fine, correct? or does the update break mods?

[scenic zenith]

im using it on 1.0.1 so at least steamodded itself works

i can definitely see some mods breaking though since you have to interact with code directly sometimes

shouldn't be too likely tho i think

(not sure what localthunk changed in background)

[mint beacon]

well there was a engine change iirc

[odd dock]

yeah but you should use lovely to install steamodded

[night pagoda]

awesome, juan moment

[edgy reef]

"WE LOVE DEBUGGING" all mod developers say in unison

[maiden phoenix]

We love debugging, and I'm not held at gun point by itsFlowwey and I'm not supposed to say this no stop stop it stop repeating what I say why are you so dumb-

[night pagoda]

how can I add variables to the blind's localization?

[rigid moss]

Hey guys, do you know how to print debug messages on screen? I've seen in other mods people using sendDebugMessage(msg), but nothing shows when I'm trying to use it...

[night pagoda]

sendDebugMessage will print in the console and not on screen

you're supposed to use console to debug things

[wheat cypress]

oops! all presents

[narrow pollen]

...man

how is it that i always find the things that are the least possible to do?

[wheat cypress]

Science isn't about WHY. It's about WHY NOT. Why is so much of our science dangerous? Why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you on the butt on the way out, because you are fired! -Cave Johnson

[zealous glen]

What are you trying to do?

[wheat cypress]

maybe you need to add a base multiplier to the banana? maybe it's falling apart because the multipliers is becoming less than one or some weird thing is happening. not sure if its gonna help but making a "safety net" might help. not sure tho. i'm new to modding this game and have a lot to learn

EDIT: Thought you were ice cream+banana guy. this probably wont help. srry

[zealous glen]

Cave Johnson had really good quotes

[narrow pollen]

nah, i'm the "wants a single joker's chip/mult bonus to apply in two steps" guy

[zealous glen]

You want a Joker to grant both Chips and Mult?

[narrow pollen]

nono

[scenic zenith]

anyoen made card sleeves as a consumable idea yet (doesn't look like it im making it )

[narrow pollen]

i want these two to apply their respective bonuses in two steps if you play two pair / full house

i have it working visually, but it seems the game doesn't like both steps actually doing anything

[zealous glen]

I think I’d do the card eval manually and return nil from the Joker itself

[zealous glen]

I’m curious what they would be like

[scenic zenith]

basically the idea is that it's a thing you can put on jokers and they give it an effect

ideas i had was: weaker enhancement versions, more money if you sell the joker, negative but it becomes a rental

stuff like that

[narrow pollen]

am i missing a variable in the message table? it works fine when i have it return that message, but the card_eval doesn't actually increase the value

[zealous glen]

I don’t think card eval increases the value, no, it just displays the animation

[narrow pollen]

yeah, i'm trying to figure out the "increase value" part and

[scenic zenith]

yea i think the return is what makes it actually increase the number

[narrow pollen]

starting to realize that it's maybe impossible

[zealous glen]

It’s not

Just look at what the game does with the return

[scenic zenith]

you can always manually increase it if you want

[zealous glen]

It adds to the value somewhere else

[scenic zenith]

Without checking I'd guess it just uses something like ease_chips()

[zealous glen]

There weren’t sleeves but there were Joker seals

[scenic zenith]

similar idea i suppose

i think my idea is unique enough that i'll go through with it

just felt like a relatively common idea so i thought i'd ask

lol

anyway here's a deck i made surely perfectly balanced i have not playtested it enough yet to know

[zealous glen]

Celeste moment

[scenic zenith]

yea we're making a celeste-adjacent pack

[random sleet]

i have made a wonderful discovery

[slow ocean]

wot

[random sleet]

instead of having two arrays, one with the data and one with the desired load order of cards, i can have one array with both

'joker', joker = {
...
},```

[slow ocean]

o i c

[gilded narwhal]

Question, is there a list of context.xxxx that I should refer to or can you just put in anything

[frosty dock]

you can put in anything, but if the base game doesn't call calculate_joker with that context, you're out of luck unless you make the game call it the way you need

otherwise refer to the game's source

[gilded narwhal]

I'll just stick to the things I know work

[calm nova]

yo yo anyone used to coding with polychrome? im getting stumped

[edgy reef]

coding with wha

[calm nova]

like comfortable using the code for polychrome my bad

im trying to have first card of hand played for flushes turn into poly

[slow ocean]

i never messed specifically with polychrome but i would imagine it's the same as changing a card into steel/gold but you just specify the card's edition instead

[scenic zenith]

smth like this

card:set_edition({
                        polychrome = true
                    }, true, true)```

(taken from the absoluteDeck.lua example code)

[gilded narwhal]

Yo how do you do the thing that's like "X left" at the end of a round like seltzer or invisible joker

[calm nova]

I’ll try this

[zealous glen]

I don’t exactly see

[zealous glen]

In the tooltip or just the VFX?

[calm nova]

Yea I thought and tried that but it was messing with me

[random sleet]

tables can contain both named keys and ordered numeric keys

[random sleet]

when you use ipairs it iterates over the numeric keys in order

[gilded narwhal]

Just the vfx

Because I know how to do it in the tooltip

(I think)

[random sleet]

so this can be used to keep the table in order while also avoiding having a separate table with nothing but a list of keys from the first table

[random sleet]

since if you make a table with named keys lua doesnt know what order they go in

[random sleet]

has this explanation helped

[scenic zenith]

i honestly have no idea how seltzer does it it confuses me but i know you can always just go like

            card_eval_status_text(self, 'extra', nil, nil, nil, {message = "Big thing of the happening!!!", colour= G.C.CHIPS})

really do wonder how seltzer works it doesn't really seem to have the thing anywhere

[zealous glen]

Oh, that’s what I was missing

[zealous glen]

I did notice my Jokers were loading in a random order

[zealous glen]

Seltzer returns a message which gets passed to card_eval_status_text I believe

[scenic zenith]

yea but it doesn't have the left

it's jsut this

lol

or is the left thing not real

maybe it just says the number actually and i am misremembering

mystery solved it doesn't say left

so yea just return the message in calculate_joker

[gilded narwhal]

Hmmm in the calculate could I technically be like message = localize('#2# left!')

Honestly I don't even rlly know how this works lmao

[scenic zenith]

i think all the ## things require you to have it as a variable but yea i also am not sure how those work yet

yea i think the way it works is #1# means the 1st variable you like set

so in seltzer it's self.ability.extra

[gilded narwhal]

Where would I put this btw

Just in the calculate function?

[scenic zenith]

you prob just wanna return the message instead

[gilded narwhal]

Yeah I'll just do that

[patent bough]

9

[royal ether]

youd need to loc parse it first, but yea pretty much

also welcome back autumn :3

[golden lake]

hi autumn!!

[random sleet]

hi smods 1.0 is killing me

[golden lake]

how so?

[random sleet]

dont hold your breath on oddityapi or thac or anything for smods 1.0 from me

[gilded narwhal]

Is it good

[wild gyro]

so smods 1.0 is going to just completely kill every existing mod?

[slow ocean]

yarp

[random sleet]

at minimum it's a full rewrite

again

[wild gyro]

whats the point then

[slow ocean]

wdym

[wild gyro]

this just seems like a negative

[mellow sable]

It’s better long-term

For making mods

[slow ocean]

its for having a better foundation

aye

[mellow sable]

The API is much easier to use

I converted my mod to 1.0.0 and it feels so much nicer

[slow ocean]

smods 1.0 still going to have to use the injector method as the default?

[mellow sable]

Lovely

[random sleet]

smods 1.0 doesnt even support injector

[edgy reef]

Plus the standardization of lovely means I don't have to be scared using it to un-scuff my code

:]

[slow ocean]

love to see it

[random sleet]

im like 90% sure

[slow ocean]

injector is dead

[random sleet]

fr tho

[scenic zenith]

Lovely does just genuinely sound like a better solution

So this seems like a good change

[random sleet]

lovely is lovely

[slow ocean]

how hard would you say it was to convert it to 1.0 if it's something like my mod where i just add jokers

i know aure said hes enforcing joker prefixes

or w/e the term is

[random sleet]

depends

are you registering each joker individually

or doing a loopy thing like how thac worked

[slow ocean]

theyre all individual

[random sleet]

because you have to rewrite every constructor to be SMODS.Joker { name = ..., key = ... }

[slow ocean]

are we going back to sandwich code a-la source code's calculate_joker function

oh

that doesnt sound that bad

[mellow sable]

I really only had to change the SMODS interactions

All the function overrides and lovely things worked

[random sleet]

you also just put calculate, use, can_use, loc_def, etc directly in the constructor

instead of changing them after the fact

[slow ocean]

im a little intimidated because i feel like im gonna be very stupid after the update fixing my mod but

[edgy reef]

I converted Ortalab in its entirety within 6 hours iirc

[silent sinew]

all it really is for basic shit is syntax changes tbh

[edgy reef]

It's not that hard as long as you know what the syntax is.

[silent sinew]

its kinda tedious because you have to define keys for every joker now but it's whatever

[slow ocean]

only reason i was able to refactor my mod the first time was because of mika

[random sleet]

the mage table is passed directly to the SMODS.Joker constructor

[slow ocean]

[random sleet]

ok thats a lie

i fiddle with generating a loc_txt first

[edgy reef]

I'm happy that Steamodded 1.0 didn't destroy any of the refactoring code.

[silent sinew]

theres also uhh loc_txt stuff but you might not have to worry about that depending on the complexity of your jokers

[random sleet]

but mostly just passed directly

[edgy reef]

Else I would've been done for

[slow ocean]

wdym loc_txt stuff

[random sleet]

theres a new localization system

[silent sinew]

idk how to explain it

but some of your text might break if it's set during initialization

[slow ocean]

dont think that applies to me then

[silent sinew]

and you have to process it after the joker has been registered

[edgy reef]

You do this to initialize text (technically it doesn't have to be in the process_loc_text function but this is only used for one joker so why not).

[silent sinew]

all it really messed up for me was the sans dialogue

[slow ocean]

only joker i think might have some big Angry issues is maybe midnight crew joker since that has some weird hackery involving updating the soul_pos

:programming:

[silent sinew]

i mean my weird joker that has a custom front and scrolling background didn't need to be touched so maybe you'll get lucky

[random sleet]

sprite rendering is the same

[slow ocean]

i dont mean to be That guy but do we have a rough time frame of when to expect 1.0

[silent sinew]

my impression is within a month but i'm not involved with development

[random sleet]

the Card object itself is still the same it's just the way you register stuff with smods and the new hooks are confusing and i dont know what any of this shit is

[silent sinew]

autumn do you want me to send the code for balatrotale it's only basic joker registry stuff but if that's what you're struggling with then it could help

[gilded narwhal]

Yo question so I'm getting a crash that says context is nil but it only gives that at the end if statement

[slow ocean]

whats the crash log

[random sleet]

idk im just gonna play minecraft until other people make mods for me to steal the code of pretend i learned from

[slow ocean]

so true jestie

[silent sinew]

there is cryptid

[zealous glen]

I was planning to release the beta of my second mod this weekend, but with the Steamodded alpha I decided to wait. Maybe I’ll release anyways one of these days because I want to get feedback from people about it

[silent sinew]

it's structured completely different from how i prefer to but it's probably the best 1.0 reference you can get rn

[silent sinew]

maybe just try throwing an if context in there?

[slow ocean]

oh are you trying to make a fusion joker

[gilded narwhal]

Yup

[slow ocean]

try this first (but i dont think it will work, but you never know)

and if that doesnt work uhhh

well, actually

[silent sinew]

anyway if oddityapi 1.0 isnt happening for now i guess i should shelf the oddity portion of balatrotale for now

[slow ocean]

when does the crash happen

[silent sinew]

unrelated but holy shit my windows explorer is so fucking broken i might need to restart

[gilded narwhal]

As I'm booting up balatro

[silent sinew]

we love you windows

[slow ocean]

oh your thumbnails arent loadin

[silent sinew]

it's just fucked in general lmao

[slow ocean]

maybe try not running the whole body of the code (the G_E_Manager code, return code seems fine to me)?

see if thats your issue

[gilded narwhal]

So I'm like 80% sure it's a syntax thing

[zealous glen]

Has happened to me

[gilded narwhal]

Ermm how do I do that 😭

[slow ocean]

this block of code

or honestly all 3 if statements here

just temporarily delete them or cut them into a new doc or something

see if you can initialize the joker with nothing but a dummy calculate function

if you can its probably a problem with one of those if statements

ait

[gilded narwhal]

So if I get the same error after deleting those if statements

[slow ocean]

is card.ability.extra.rounds_left == 0 correct

ok continue

oh wait

is rounds_left here refering to the extra on the joker itself

because that should be self.ability.extra.rounds_left i think

[gilded narwhal]

It wasn't a problem with that block of code actually

[slow ocean]

hmm

[gilded narwhal]

It was this one

[slow ocean]

oh wew

yeah that will do it

yeah you cant really have a joker (as in the joker itself) return both chips and mult without it being a hacky way

[gilded narwhal]

:(

[slow ocean]

not to say its not possible, mind you

[gilded narwhal]

Oh I know that

Because I know jokers that do that

[slow ocean]

as far as i know theres none in base game

[random sleet]

hehehehe

[gilded narwhal]

Scholar

[slow ocean]

scholar procs on the card itself

not the joker

[gilded narwhal]

Oh dang

[slow ocean]

im crying

[golden lake]

@slow ocean do i take

[slow ocean]

courtyard droll hands you the boof

[random sleet]

its the code joker tarot uses to eval itself 1000 times

[crisp coral]

that would go so hard with pebbler

[rough furnace]

I like making debugging tools

[slow ocean]

but yeah for whatever reason, you can have triggers off of a CARD return mult and chips at the same time but not the JOKER itself, if that makes sense

[edgy reef]

The way the game handles cards vs. joker scoring is different for whatever reason.

[slow ocean]

i ran into the same issue myself and a work around i think was just having either the chips or mult be given outside of the return, using card_eval_text to recreate the +chips/mult message, then return the remaining one as normal.

[golden lake]

this is so based

[slow ocean]

finally

prospit droll

[rough furnace]

technically some mods work on both versions

[gilded narwhal]

Wait could I technically just like

Hold on

[edgy reef]

Any mod that didn't initialize stuff (like lovely-heavy API, for instance) will still work unless it's patching get_straight

Then it won't

[crisp coral]

(some mods without an init function)

[edgy reef]

:[

[golden lake]

@slow ocean oh fuck

[slow ocean]

me about to cascade twice

[zealous glen]

Oh is this a custom evaluation function?

[random sleet]

yeah thats basically what the code i posted does

[slow ocean]

.

[golden lake]

Cascade is vile

[zealous glen]

Me too

[golden lake]

20 sock and buskins in a single joker

but like. on a hand

[zealous glen]

Thanks I’ll steal it but really it’d be good to have an API with small changes to vanilla like that that make Joker creation smoother

Like the Hiker text but for everything

[rough furnace]

divy's score preview works fine on 1.0 which is pretty neat

but yeah any mod making like any content won't work

[random sleet]

i'm not the one to complain to about that

[golden lake]

SFWEEASTGWEA

it happened..

[zealous glen]

First, crash Newgrounds. Then, crash Balatro.

[golden lake]

oh my god sopor pie looks disgusting with holographic

perfect

[narrow pollen]

MiRaClEs

[hallow forge]

is it possible to make a joker that can't show up in shops or buffoon packs?

[narrow pollen]

i wanna see it with polychrome now--

[zealous glen]

Cavendish

[edgy reef]

yes_pool_flag = "no_spawn_pls" should work (note that the text part does not have to be "no_spawn_pls")

[long gust]

don't those already exist in balatro

[hallow forge]

ty

[gilded narwhal]

I think I got it partly working

Lemme record

:(

And it's my fusion specifically

Anyone have any ideas 😭

[rough furnace]

I haven't worked on any of these, but maybe make sure the Id is correct

[lunar halo]

does the fusion carry over the values of ice cream/popcorn?

[gilded narwhal]

Uhh wdym

Because I basically just copied what all the other fusions did

[rough furnace]

Like make sure you defined a joker with the same id

[gilded narwhal]

I see what it is

I put a - instead of a _

That'll do it

[silent sinew]

is there a way that i can have a joker display multiple descriptions on top of each other?

like this

[gilded narwhal]

God damnit

[edgy reef]

Crash from not excluding context.repetition

[gilded narwhal]

Oh so I just add "and not context.repetition"

[edgy reef]

yea

[gilded narwhal]

That was easy

[gilded cradle]

where can i find the code of the vanilla jokers

?

[random sleet]

in balatro.exe

[gilded narwhal]

ya you just extract it

[slow ocean]

open it like you would any .zip file

[gilded narwhal]

Also question what is the "and not context.before and not context.after" used for

[gilded cradle]

thanks

[slow ocean]

context.after is the trigger that happens after your hand is scored and the jokers start to trigger (stuff like your regular jimbo joker, runner, constellation)

tbh i dont really understand context.before

[gilded narwhal]

Also good news, playing a card doesn't crash the game

But bad news, the joker doesn't do anything it just sits there

[slow ocean]

whats the joker supposed to do

[silent sinew]

i guess not

[slow ocean]

i wish i knew 😭

[silent sinew]

i just tried and i had to mess with nodes or whatever the fuck and immediately started crying

drawing text in gamemaker: draw_text("text", x, y)
drawing text in love2d: https://tenor.com/view/science-mathematics-math-equations-memory-gif-5636549

[gilded narwhal]

Okay so in this clip I deleted the and nots

[slow ocean]

ah i gotcha

[slow ocean]

btw i still think you should try swapping card.ability.extra.chips with self.ability.extra.chips

that might be a reason if you're using card.blah.blah.blah

[gilded narwhal]

Would I just replace the card with self in the function

And like any mention of card with self

Also I figured out why it wasn't triggering

[maiden phoenix]

Replace all "self" with "card" if it's the joker that's supposed to be destoryed

[slow ocean]

ok im going for a walk

[random sleet]

tbf this is like 90% just because balatro has fancy text stuff going on

[gilded narwhal]

Okay so weirdness is happening

[silent sinew]

well it's too fancy

[gilded narwhal]

So I want my joker to do both +chips and +mult

And it is

But

It's doing it at the same time lmao

How do I NOT do that

[calm nova]

I got a dumb question how does one update on GitHub?

[silent sinew]

at the very least i guess i have less work to do before i can just release the mod already

[gilded narwhal]

Also how the hell do I turn off this awful text selector on visual studio where it like selects the element one at a time and pressing keys replaces the existing characters

[edgy reef]

I haven't seen this website in a while

[golden lake]

isnt 1.0 still in alpha?

[silent sinew]

yeah but im developing with it because it's coming out soon

[gilded narwhal]

I figured it out

[maiden phoenix]

Half of the art done

[golden lake]

@slow ocean what the fuck i have 3 cascades

oh no

[slow ocean]

average mspfa session

[gilded narwhal]

Sweet-Theatre Combo is finished (basically)

[maiden phoenix]

Why not show a number for each round going down like Seltzer?

Love the art tho

[gilded narwhal]

Ermmmm I'll get to that

[maiden phoenix]

Neat

[silent sinew]

is this too good for a common

[broken vine]

lil. feels like a uncommon. not sure what to compare it to for refrence

campfire? that's rare, though. and x multipler.

[ionic isle]

strictly better than makeshift joker (although tbh i consider that one very bad)

[gilded narwhal]

Yo context.end_of_hand is a thing right

[golden lake]

thats just context.after

[gilded narwhal]

Oh fun

[golden lake]

also

cascade moment

[gilded narwhal]

Least powerful modded joker

[golden lake]

@slow ocean

[gilded narwhal]

Is there anything obviously wrong here?

Because xmult is not activating

[silent sinew]

the sans to flowey talker transition is complete

i still need to figure out his effect tho

[gilded narwhal]

Anyone know what's happening?

nvm I figured it out

Forgot to change a name

???

[slow ocean]

???

[gilded narwhal]

And it destroys the cards it destroys???

[slow ocean]

what did you do????

[gilded narwhal]

Idk!!!

Do you wanna see the code I wrote

[slow ocean]

yes pls

i am very amused

[gilded narwhal]

Okay so rundown of all the things it does

Having oops all sixes retriggers it

And the retriggers goes up with the number of dice

And it also destroys the cards it scores

[narrow pollen]

man, there is no easy way for a joker to retrigger its own effect

[golden lake]

how so

[worthy depot]

I mean it seems like survival figured it out lmao

[narrow pollen]

i wasn't expecting these two to be the most difficult ones to visually implement the way i wanted to

[golden lake]

this is easy?

[narrow pollen]

well, if you want it to say "+80 chips" or "+12 mult"

then yes

[golden lake]

no its easy for the other way as well

you just have to run evaluation code in the actual like

context.individual

and make a table of played ranks that updates

how many times X was played

this is literally just Balatrostuck's Pairing Grid

[narrow pollen]

oh, really? neat!

[golden lake]

yeah

lmao

[narrow pollen]

and i think i recommended you do that sort of thing for the fluorite octet mega payout

you know, have the x64 mult show two separate x8 mults instead

[golden lake]

yeah that's doable as well if a bit more annoying

[loud citrus]

I'm looking for feedback on anything about this, I'm curious about sharing my strange things :)

[crisp coral]

interesting

[short surge]

do you guys know of any mod that gives joker/cards special colouring/effects?

I remembered seeing someone doing a blinky blinky effect

[ionic isle]

seems like a slightly more balanced version of scry, cool

[loud citrus]

What's scry if you don't mind me asking?

[narrow pollen]

oh THERE we go

that's how i do it.

[ionic isle]

spectral card that creates 2 random spectral cards

no other effects

[loud citrus]

Huh, that sounds only beneficial for a non stamp spectral

Thanks for telling me :)

[ionic isle]

yw

[random sleet]

the other spectrals already have downsides more than likely

no need to compound them

[near ivy]

you aren't forced to use them

[short surge]

I have a silly question guys

if i have a variable that i want to store for a particular game, how should i do it properly?

I tried putting it somewhere in G, G.SETTING etc, but they either don't save upon closing the game, or they will break the game

[crisp coral]

putting it in G.GAME saves

[short surge]

I would create this variable upon a joker entering the game, but i want it to stay even if i relauch the game

[crisp coral]

for the specific run or permanently?

[short surge]

so like G.GAME.anything？

[short surge]

specific run

[crisp coral]

yea

[short surge]

do i have to say "it needs to be saved" anywhere in the code or i can just make it be in there?

[loud citrus]

I think it's a somewhat fair trade for being able to hold a spectral card that you want to keep and do silly things with :)

Though I would agree it's a bit much

[azure wraith]

if they just sold for $0 it would be all right

it can still dud and if you sold something useful to open up a slot you don't get it back either

[loud citrus]

My thinking is that spectral cards can be very powerful, especially when used at any time of choice, especially early game when you can take a ton of risks, so it encourages you to use them early game, and you can be picky mid to late game.

From my play testing its quite fun, and a unique obstacle for spectrals cards that I don't want, though when I release my mod I would love to hear your feedback :D

Not saying your feedback isn't valid, just you might have more when playing with it. Sorry about that

[odd dock]

if steamodded is installed there would be a "mods" button on the main menu

[golden lake]

wrong chat

[modern herald]

Damogus

[lyric sparrow]

Love this, gamble both your consume slots for gold or garbage

[zealous glen]

You probably need to manually make the message for Chips before the one for Mult because the base code only expects Jokers to give one at a time

[zealous glen]

I think it depends on the support for selling Jokers. With sufficient economy you can go through a lot of them. I have a Joker in my mod that’s similar but it gives two random Jokers +2 Mult

[zealous glen]

Use self instead of card. Inside the event I think it looks at the global context for the variable card

I have the impression functions defined inside functions have a “limited memory” (more accurately scope) for outside functions, or possibly due to the timing they get executed in events

[zealous glen]

The wording confused me but this loses you money if you sell it, right?

[zealous glen]

I think it can just be there. I add G.GAME.ModName.var to it and it seems to save between closing and opening the run

[regal shoal]

Hey ! Does anyone knows where I can find the current hand_size ?

Before first_hand_drawn so I can't just #cards

[random sleet]

G.hand.config.card_limit?

[regal shoal]

You legend

[scenic zenith]

Any chance we can get some way of not loading steammodded if some param like --vanilla is used when starting the game

i think it'd be neat

[maiden phoenix]

Pizzer

[zealous glen]

Pizza

[random sleet]

setting up dynamic pool flags for suits and ranks....

[maiden phoenix]

Pizzog

[frosty dock]

oh no

[short surge]

I have to brag about this bro, feels so good getting this to work!

[frosty dock]

neato

[random sleet]

oh wow that's slick

[frosty dock]

lmfao

[random sleet]

pretend i dont have like 7 errors there

[frosty dock]

me when double walkie talkie

[random sleet]

canio instead of caino

[mellow crag]

What are you cooking?

[random sleet]

dynamic pool flags based on deck state

which uh.... currently updates every frame. i should probably change that.

[queen scroll]

finally i can stop getting caino on abandoned deck!!!

[random sleet]

funny you mention that

it's my test case

tonight was rather productive...

[maiden phoenix]

What does brick do?

[maiden phoenix]

Lmao

[random sleet]

did you see 🕛 ?

[maiden phoenix]

Yea, is it a silly one too?

[random sleet]

#⚙・modding-general message

[maiden phoenix]

Yoo it's animated too

[random sleet]

#⚙・modding-general message

this is 🔂

[queen scroll]

hey guys, has anyone tried setting up steamodded from a version of the game running from the source code using love2d with lovely, and if so how?

[maiden phoenix]

Oh that's cool

[random sleet]

it changes its name to be accurate as well

so when it's at 🕧 its name is :clock_1230:

(except im a dunce and didnt realize there's no underscore aaa)

[maiden phoenix]

Didn't know one joker could change name too, is it just a simple as writing card.name = "something_else" ?

[random sleet]

no it is not at all simple and it drove me fucking insane

[scenic zenith]

[queen scroll]

don't you just hook into generate_uibox_ability_table and replace full_ui_table.name?

[random sleet]

yes

except it's not a string it's a dynatext

[maiden phoenix]

Oh...

Yikes

[random sleet]

and you can't change a dynatext's string

for some reason

[queen scroll]

yeah i did that for my mod, it was also a dynatext

the beginning/the end

[random sleet]

so i had to look into how the localize function creates the dynatext in the first place and then copy that out

this didnt take over 2 hours for one stupid name change thing i dont know what youre talking about

[queen scroll]

i just copied misprint's dynatext, made it bigger, white and added a shadow

[random sleet]

also note that the clock returns both chips and mult
this is a secret technique that i like to call "doing it myself"

[maiden phoenix]

Your coding hours shall be many and your features few

[random sleet]

TRUE

[queen scroll]

lmao

[random sleet]

me when ive been coding all night and all i have to show for it is 13 jokers

[maiden phoenix]

Shoutout to some of my jokers having +4 extra keys

[queen scroll]

lol i added a ridiculously cool interaction in my joker mod that took me a week to code and nobody noticed

[maiden phoenix]

Been too busy updating my mod to see all the recent mod updates

[random sleet]

also did you know that if the name of a joker is too long it gets shrunken?

[maiden phoenix]

That's cool

[queen scroll]

neat

[random sleet]

i dont even play this game

[queen scroll]

(check it out im desperate 😭)

[maiden phoenix]

Amoeba my beloved

[shell timber]

13 jokers in one night is crazy

[zealous glen]

That’s awesome. If you’re interested, I figured out how to flip cards in the deck, which should at least allow the player to see the top card without needing to click two menu buttons

[random sleet]

yeah but that's without needing to art

should have more

[zealous glen]

That’s a lot

[zealous glen]

I use placeholder art and I think the most I’ve done in a single day must have been 5

[queen scroll]

just make common jokers, they're so much easier to implement

[zealous glen]

Part of the difficulty is having an idea in the first place

[queen scroll]

wait lemme come up with a joker idea rn

[random sleet]

what if instead of making a website i just make this collage increasingly dumb

[queen scroll]

uhh +20 mult if you have an equal number of hands and discards remaining

[zealous glen]

But I’ve gotten my main mod about where I want for a beta release, and I should be working on secondary stuff like art and VFX, but instead I implemented more Jokers for a new mod (which I have not prepared by making plans for)

[queen scroll]

balance, common $5

i'm just too good

[zealous glen]

Main reason I haven’t released it for a beta is because I’m not sure I should wait for Steamodded 1.0 or not

[random sleet]

i guess i did fix vanilla so

(for legal reasons this is a joke)

[maiden phoenix]

Most of them are cool simple ideas

[random sleet]

🔁 is the most powerful three-word joker effect

[maiden phoenix]

I feel like sometimes its hard to not go overboard

[zealous glen]

I think a simple Joker jam would be fun

[queen scroll]

aren't all jokers meant to be simple? that's kind of the charm behind them

[zealous glen]

Doesn’t mean they are

[queen scroll]

true

[random sleet]

🧙 is charming

[zealous glen]

Yu-Gi-Oh! looking modded Jokers:

[zealous glen]

I meant contemporary YGO

[random sleet]

🧑‍🍳 is actually so good
unlike riffraff almost all the food work unconditionally

so it'll never give you Joker That Cares About Straights

[zealous glen]

I think my mod might make Riff-Raff overpowered

[random sleet]

mine too, 🧻 op

[maiden phoenix]

🧻 my beloved

I'll never say it enough

[nimble sequoia]

hi everyone, how do i replace the sprite for card backs? i tried to do so similarly to how i give sprites to jokers, but i think i did something wrong

[scenic zenith]

you mean for making your own decks?

[nimble sequoia]

yes

[scenic zenith]

yea it's basically identical

[nimble sequoia]

with b_ for prefix instead of j_?

[scenic zenith]

for decks do it like this

for jokers its at the end i think lol

anyway i wrote the b_ myself

i don't think you need to

[gilded cradle]

hey i'm pretty new to modding in general i'm trying to make a joker that makes stone cards count as wildcard aces but I'm really struggling the effect would be similar to Pareidolia or smeared joker but its not a popular effect among modded jokers so i dont have much to study to figure this out

[nimble sequoia]

does the atlas refer to the png name in assets ?

[zealous glen]

I think what you’d do is hook over the function that checks for suit/rank and if you have a Joker, return something different