💻・modding-dev

[slow ocean]

yes

thank u for the help btw

[golden lake]

no worries

I'm still so proud of the WV render

he's so cool

[mellow sable]

it was changed

I talked to the mods directly to see if that could be an exception to deter cheating, but they said so the code was unobfuscated after that rule was made

it's also disorganized and uncommented so good luck trying to cheat successfully with it

[rough furnace]

I mean i had cheated with the older steamodded version cause I found a silly bug but then it was obuscated so I didn't feel like testing if it still worked after that

[mellow sable]

only difference is that the source isn't on GitHub because I don't want potential cheaters to see exactly what changes are made each time

but you can still just open the lua files

[rough furnace]

fair

[golden lake]

lyman do i make a tangle buddies joker perhaps

[mellow sable]

like here's a random section, have fun figuring out what any of this means

[still jacinth]

are there any mods I can look at to see how to add a section to the collection?

[rough furnace]

I think someone was messing with it, but noit sure if it was releasdd

[golden lake]

not sanely

Balatro doesn't have any sane standards as of yet

The only thing we have is Steamodded

Making your own collection type is uh, not a good idea (from person making 2 consumeable types)

[still jacinth]

o

[edgy reef]

why aren't you WORKING

I am going to pull my hair out

All I want is to not have to manually add restricted joker to this challenge

but nooo, let's just NOT RUN THE CODE AT ALL

:DDD

[maiden phoenix]

Got "Reach the stars" and "Damocles" codded, eepy time

[edgy reef]

At least it works (after switching save files and using init_item_prototypes)

Whoops I missed Cartomancer

Also why is the name ERROR

ugh

[edgy reef]

also oops the banned joker count is doubled

[iron delta]

How do I migrate to the lovely patcher? That's what everyone uses now right? Do I need to make any changes to my existing mods?

[hallow forge]

I guess im done, should i release now?

[iron delta]

the injector just crashes for me

[hallow forge]

(I have new hands and their planet cards) and i forgetting anything ultra important

[golden lake]

why is this in modded-dev

[iron delta]

Where is it supposed to be?

[golden lake]

#⚙・modding-general

[royal ether]

that dialog box literally tells you the solution

[wild gyro]

it gives an exact response of what you should do

[iron delta]

no it doesn't, it's incorrect

[golden lake]

no no do not encourage them

[iron delta]

It's a fresh steam install

[golden lake]

out

#⚙・modding-general

[royal ether]

yea im moving to modding chat

[iron delta]

And the other question?

Do I need to make any changes to my existing mods to migrate them to the injector?

[golden lake]

#⚙・modding-general

[golden lake]

how so

[edgy reef]

You can see all of the joker showing up twice

Also, what controls the descriptions in challenges?

[iron delta]

look up challenge_description_tab

[edgy reef]

ok there we go

Nice

[gaunt thistle]

it shouldn't be that incorrect

if it thinks the file exists then it's there

[iron delta]

it was my skill issue, my bad. Didn't realize steam didn't nuke it itself on uninstall.

[gaunt thistle]

no worries :-)

its always ok to ask

funnily enough I think that's the only really descriptive error message in lovely

everything else is a "things are fucked good luck"

[thorn bough]

thats... not right

[royal ether]

deck of diamonds

[golden lake]

damn, the whole red deck?

[odd dock]

ERROR rarity Red Deck 5 of diamonds from the blue seal mod

[thorn bough]

man maybe i should tone it down with the chaos

[ionic isle]

balatro chaos mod would be a very fun idea

[long gust]

balatro but every slot can hold jokers, consumables, playing cards, packs, vouchers, etc

[edgy reef]

Balatro but the card area position is randomized

[mint beacon]

man, I sure am screwing this up, and I could use some help with a deck backer image, I got it to finally display something but not the proper image

[ionic isle]

yea

[long gust]

it can't be that hard... right?

[thorn bough]

well, uhh, actually:

[odd dock]

re;shuffled....

[thorn bough]

it almost works

but also kinda doesnt

the only MAJOR issue is that nested packs sends you to the shadow realm

other than that, its pretty ok

[ionic isle]

i mean technically

[unkempt thicket]

how do you check all played cards rather then all scored cards?

[unkempt thicket]

nvm, i figured it out

[mellow sable]

least powerful Rare joker

[nimble sequoia]

Hack Fibonacci strat in shambles

[mint beacon]

Chippers

[narrow pollen]

imagine that with pareidolia and baron

every single card is a king

[abstract ingot]

howdy Balatro modders. I have no idea how to turn my texture pack into a lua mod that will work with steamdecked. It's a simple change to the enhancement/8bitdecks, and am tired of having to do the 7-ZIP texture replace method every update as of late :P

Any help would be appreciated!

[unkempt thicket]

how does suit work?(in this context)

[short surge]

any one piece fans?

[narrow pollen]

that gets the first letter of the suit name

[zealous glen]

Mihawk!

[frosty dock]

with custom suits, it doesnt

[narrow pollen]

it really doesn't

literally just

SMODS.Card.SUITS[self.base.suit].prefix

that'll give you what you need

[frosty dock]

slightly different for 1.0 btw

SMODS.Suits[self.base.suit].card_key

(it's card_key because that allows me to reuse more code across suits and ranks)

[boreal token]

7. Do not redistribute the Balatro source code.
   would distributing modifications to the source code using git patch files go against this rule since they contain a small amount of the source file to locate where in a file things are added/changed?

[golden lake]

Im pretty sure it just means dont redistribute the game's code as is

On the accout of yknow

Someone can just compile it

[scenic zenith]

Which balatro mod loader have people decided on to be used for making mods

or is it still between multiple

[golden lake]

Steamodded is the main one

[boreal token]

me on my way to make my own mod loader because i dont like the existing options

[golden lake]

i will kill you

[scenic zenith]

the temptation to try and make a modding framework

im not dedicated enough

[golden lake]

do not even dare

[scenic zenith]

is someone else doing it

[golden lake]

we do not need 200 competing standards

[boreal token]

xkcd

[golden lake]

we have steamodded, thats all we need

[hoary sand]

i don't think anything could overtake steamodded at this point

[scenic zenith]

no a modding framework would be a mod on top of steammodded

that lets you add jokers/cards more easily

cause as far as I have understood steammodded gives you nothing

[golden lake]

so.. an API?

[scenic zenith]

but maybe im wrong

[golden lake]

no

steamodded has an API

and steamodded 1.0 will flesh it out way more

[scenic zenith]

i see

[zealous glen]

“There are now 15 competing standards”

[scenic zenith]

In my eyes a mod loader is not the same as a mod framework

well, they can be

but they don't have to be

i might just be bad with terms tho ngl

but yea what i meant was a mod that other mods can use to easily add suits, cards, jokers etc

which is something that prob should be in steammodded

but also this is a bad first project and i have no idea what im doing so yea never happening

[hoary sand]

afaik steamodded has a joker and suit api

i think there's a rank one too?

[scenic zenith]

nice

[maiden phoenix]

Is it possible to force a joker to show up in the shop?

[crisp coral]

don't make this a forge vs fabric vs quilt 😭

[slow ocean]

yeah if anything, it'd be much better to try to help build on top of one of the two modloaders

lord knows we would still be in the stone age without feder's apis

[scenic zenith]

yea that sounds basically like what i was thinking of

[crisp coral]

crisis averted

[frosty dock]

one of my principles with steamodded has been that coremods shouldn't need to exist

[hoary sand]

are there any major balamod mods that haven't been ported to steamodded?

[slow ocean]

aure have you basically just become the main person since steamo's been busy

[slow ocean]

i think it's pretty much just arachneii's stuff

[frosty dock]

if you count rewriting literally the entire thing, sure?

[silent sinew]

so ... steamodded

there's not much more you can simplify it without turning it into scratch or something

i had no lua knowledge a couple weeks ago and now i'm making balatrotale

[golden lake]

^

me with Balatrostuck

[slow ocean]

me with all my mods

[silent sinew]

speaking of balatrotale i think i need to make a trello or something to keep track of what else needs to be done for the initial release

[maiden phoenix]

i had barely enough lua knowledge a couple weeks ago and now i'm going insane

[silent sinew]

idk if this makes it seem more or less scary

i guess this is better???

[golden lake]

i almost never use trello for solo work

or personal work

[slow ocean]

Planners don't work for me for solo work

[golden lake]

its just too much effort for what, a board of stuff

just wing it

have fun with it

balatrostuck's design changes every 3 days

there is no plan

the plan is whatever i decide is the plan at the moment

[silent sinew]

i just want to make sure i dont forget anything tbh

thats my main concern

[slow ocean]

True

I feel that

[silent sinew]

i dont wanna end up accidentally releasing the mod in an unfinished state

[slow ocean]

My planners are bantering with other people and just record my ideas in conversations

[silent sinew]

but i guess its also good motivation to have a list of exactly what i need to do

but thats more of a me thing ig

when i add the stuff ive done already it makes me realize damn ive pretty much already gotten the majority of the work done when it comes to the mod as a whole

[slow ocean]

Most of the plans for codex, fusion and [boon pack mod] are all just feder and I having convos

Oh shit I can finally say it's called fools fables now

[silent sinew]

a lot of the joker ideas for balatrotale just came from me randomly thinking "hey what if a joker did [x unique thing]" and writing it down if i don't immediately realize it'd be impossible

like undyne the undying, tile puzzle, tasque manager, mtt resort, the knight, most of the souls

[crisp coral]

undercards... fr..

[silent sinew]

i haven't even talked about tile puzzle yet but the idea is that it'll change color each hand and each color has a different effect

[slow ocean]

undercards...

[silent sinew]

the effects aren't explained at all you just have to find out

[slow ocean]

we out here being real ones today

[silent sinew]

but that's why it requires a shader

[crisp coral]

make 7 different joker sprites

save yourself

[silent sinew]

i'm probably just gonna color the screen black and do some shit like if tex.r + tex.g + tex.b = 0. then [cases for each state setting it to a specific color]

the one time balatro not using black is actually useful practically

...god you know what's tempting for that joker actually

explaining every single effect in the description in detail

but adding like {s:0.1} to each line

so it's impossible to read

you just have to be like "well i mean it can't hurt right"

artistic rendition

[crisp coral]

save yourself

[slow ocean]

Actually based

[scenic zenith]

this is genius

"what does this card do" "just read it duh"

[crisp coral]

Reading the card explains the card.

[silent sinew]

i think it's fun to have a card that you don't really know what it does anyway

i'll PROBABLY add a config option to only show the description for the current color but it's pussy mode

[zealous glen]

From when I tried, I couldn’t get the small size by writing it normally, but I could if I manually added the small text at another point

But maybe I did something wrong

[silent sinew]

that's weird

[crisp coral]

wdym

[golden lake]

@silent sinew take it from someone who's been through trello hell, you're using it wrong because you're using it in the enterprise way

there's no point in making individual tasks for each and every sprite, every mechanic, everything

tasks should inform specific goals and desires, not mechanical parts of a whole

[silent sinew]

i'm using it in a way that's effective for what i want

which is literally just remembering everything so i dont release an unfinished mod

[golden lake]

there's a better way though

like watch i'll make a trello to show you

this is how i would do it

[silent sinew]

i didn't really know trello could be used like that tbh

[golden lake]

it can

see

[silent sinew]

honestly though i like how visual the way i'm using it is so that's probably what i'll stick with at least for this project

maybe in the future when i need to be more organized though

[golden lake]

you're creating more work for yourself

literally

every additional minute you spend managing the trello is a minute you could be spending actually making things

[silent sinew]

i mean now that i've set it up not really

and if i switched to this that'd take even longer

[golden lake]

basically if you plan to update the mod you should like

consider that structure

it'll take up less space

[silent sinew]

i will

[golden lake]

also labels are meant to remove redundancies from your task descriptions

so I'd make Sprite and Effect a label

and remove the art and programming labels

[ruby geyser]

Back again with another round of questions most likely, how do I use the pseudorandom/pseudoseed functions?

[golden lake]

pseudoseed just generates a value between 0 and 1 based on a string

pseudorandom just uses a pseudoseed to select one element of a list at random

[silent sinew]

in the end i'm using this in a way that's convenient for me specifically but may not be as convenient for others
either way i appreciate you telling me about this format and i'll definitely consider it for future projects/updates

[golden lake]

you should just read the source code

[ruby geyser]

I may or may not have been getting an error because I mistyped psuedo instead of pseudo and pulled my hair out over nothing lol

[golden lake]

yeah thats fair also still, read the source

[silent sinew]

i feel like at least 50% of the questions new modders ask in here could be answered by "how do they do it in the source code"

[ruby geyser]

I have been, I just couldn't figure out why my random gens weren't working (see above)

[golden lake]

and this is why you should be registering everything highlighted in yellow in VSCode's global Lua variable registry

because then when you mistype it gives you a meaningful error

[silent sinew]

not trying to be mean in saying that it's just genuinely a good thing to check when you're not sure how to do something because it'll usually have exactly what you're looking for

[golden lake]

no its not mean to say that people should think for themselves and not waste other people's time

[silent sinew]

aside from smods specific stuff ofc

yeah i guess that's true too

[ruby geyser]

I have been! I have the actual functionality of the jokers down now due to reading it, it's more so the LUA side where I fall down (forgetting thens and ends), but the error I was getting didn't make sense (because I was dumb and didn't check my spellings lol)

[silent sinew]

i don't really believe in getting pissy when someone asks one or two "stupid" questions about something i'm knowledgable of but there does really come a point where you should just look it up (speaking in general not about you twostickmen)

[golden lake]

what code editor do you use

[ruby geyser]

VSCode

[golden lake]

do you have the Lua extension?

the lua extension will just let you autocomplete the ends and thens

[silent sinew]

yeah that's completely fair lmao lua has been kind of a difficult transition for me too with the different operators and such

[ruby geyser]

Especially seeing as I'm coming from Python where we don't even need declarations lmao

[golden lake]

me when i can press tab

[silent sinew]

the only language i knew before this was GML which has literally no applications outside of a specific program so it's probably good that i'm expanding to something more practical

[crisp coral]

imagine autocompleting your code

[golden lake]

its called language grammars sweaty

[crisp coral]

< manually writes if then end

[ruby geyser]

Assuming this is the correct one?

[golden lake]

yes

[crisp coral]

ya

[golden lake]

then you just type in like

for or if or fun and hit tab

and it'll take care of the fluff

[ruby geyser]

Life saver

[silent sinew]

icl it's kinda annoying sometimes like when i select something and type " and i'm expecting it to delete everything i have selected but it just surrounds it instead

that's just a me problem though LOL

[golden lake]

if you expect it to delete everything you press backspace

thats how it always worked

the surround behavior is more important

[silent sinew]

i'm just used to selected stuff being deleted when i start typing regardless of what it is

[golden lake]

surround behaviors are useful

[silent sinew]

i'm not saying it's a bad thing i'm just being a bitch because i'm not used to it lol

[frosty dock]

it'll still be deleted if you start typing afterwards lmao

[silent sinew]

...yeah that is true

still kinda throws me off though ig

[ruby geyser]

Actually quite proud of getting this to work first iteration without any major problems https://outplayed.tv/media/wXY8aK

[silent sinew]

oh that's pretty cool

[thorn bough]

is there any easy way to generally get the default localization for an object? either from a center or slug?

[frosty dock]

that would be G.localization.descriptions[center.set][center.key]

[thorn bough]

how could i add the loc_vars though

[frosty dock]

(not sure if center.key exists for vanilla objects, might need something like ability.center_key) off the card

[frosty dock]

?

[thorn bough]

the descriptions will have the #1#s and such

[frosty dock]

yeah? if you want to have it as displayed, you'd need to have the game parse it or replicate that behavior

[thorn bough]

thats what im looking for

would it be possible to, with just a center, get the default localization, as it appears in the collection.

[smoky matrix]

I want to make a mod that repositions some UI elements, where should I start?

[ruby geyser]

Why are "EDITION" and "DARK_EDITION" not hex codes but these lists/arrays?

[silent sinew]

they're animated

[frosty dock]

HEX actually just outputs a table like that

[silent sinew]

if you look at them ingame i believe they loop through grey, blue, grey, red?

[frosty dock]

it converts your hex string to an RGBA array

[ruby geyser]

I see, do I need to do something special to use these in my text then?

[frosty dock]

you should look at the loc_colour function, it defines all colours and keys for them to use in loc text

or if you need any others, you can add them by patching that function

General format is like {C:red}Mult{}

[ruby geyser]

Do you happen to know where I can find that function? I'm ctrl+f ing through the files I'd expect it in but can't see it haha

[frosty dock]

likely functions/misc_functions.lua, but it's easiest to use a global search function like in vscode

[maiden phoenix]

Is there a state changing when I switch from end of turn to shop?

Kinda trying to add a context when entering shop

[ruby geyser]

Why specifically entering shop and not just end of round?

[silent sinew]

i think you should be able to hook into Game:update_shop(dt)

[maiden phoenix]

Because I have a custom context for ease_dollars but it triggers too soon on payout

And end of round triggers before payout iirc

[odd dock]

would tags be relevant to this? like d6 or coupon tag for example

[maiden phoenix]

Oh true I could look at that too

[ruby geyser]

Have looked at the function and can't figure out why this isn't making the text the right colour, am I just missing something super obvious?

[maiden phoenix]

It's C not c

Caps matter

[silent sinew]

looks like coupon is called in update_shop so that's almost definitely what you're looking for

[ruby geyser]

Once again, defeateed by Not Paying Attention Enough

[maiden phoenix]

That did the trick, ty 🙂

[silent sinew]

[maiden phoenix]

Coded half the jokers I wanted to make so far

[silent sinew]

i just remembered to check and it looks like edition shaders dont work on the knight.... hmm

i wonder how hard that'll be to fix

...i wonder if i should fix the soul not having any shader

...NAAAH

[frosty dock]

base refactor is up on github

[ruby geyser]

Why is context.end_of_round triggering 15 times? Am I using the wrong context? I'm basically just copying what I see on invisible joker

[frosty dock]

onto PRs

[maiden phoenix]

There are more context under context.end_of_round, I recommend using if SMODS.end_calculate_context(context) then instead

[odd dock]

ur supposed to make a big show out of it man

steamodded 1.0 beta out now!!! type deal

[frosty dock]

it's not out until i make a release for it

[silent sinew]

wow it's disgusting

i can't bring myself to deviate from vanilla behavior and i hate it

[odd dock]

just making sure i'm not misunderstanding, the main rewrite portion of the steamodded update is currently available on github? and the rest of the update will come later officially in a release

[frosty dock]

the release will include all currently open PRs being handled

[ruby geyser]

Just had a thought, could you technically make a joker who's functionality changes with its edition? Whenever it triggers you do an if/else tree for the editions?

[frosty dock]

you can use what's up on github now as reference to start rewriting your mods, but I reserve to change anything until the release

[ruby geyser]

I ask because I have made the Gay Joker (Gains mult when hand is not Straight, resets on a Straight), and I think it'd be funny to invert its effects if negative

[odd dock]

ahhhh i see

[maiden phoenix]

You can check the card's edition if it has one and make it do something else

[ruby geyser]

Excellent

[silent sinew]

sound api becoming a part of smods is huge

[rough furnace]

The new crash handler just got merged to upstream steamodded

Huge

That means there's now a new api for mods

Kinda

[frosty dock]

I'll be adapting it slightly to where debug info is declared directly on the mod object

[rough furnace]

That makes sense

As long as it can be changed any time after the mod is initialized, then it should be pretty handy

[frosty dock]

yep, that should well be possible

all modded objects keep a reference of the mod they're created by

so such code shouldn't even need to make any assumptions about the current mod's ID

[silent sinew]

what could this be useful for just out of curiosity

like, would a mod be able to say "Make your you have X API installed!" when you crash

[frosty dock]

sorry what

[bold osprey]

maybe if you throw an error with this error code

idk if lua supports that

[silent sinew]

i'm just not really sure what the debug info stuff is useful for

that was my first assumption

[upper fern]

I can't decide if I want to start making a mod that adds jokers with a coherent theme, or if I want to go with a completely random "whatever ideas you have" type mod

[rough furnace]

Any kind of info that might make reading crash logs more useful. Things like version, if something had gone wrong, or just additional info about why something is crashing

[silent sinew]

ohhh ok, that makes sense

[rough furnace]

When I was testing, I had a mod to manually crash, so it set a thing when it manually crashsed,

it also had a version field

[zealous glen]

For starters, I recommend making a mod to learn how to mod.

[upper fern]

So true, honestly
I've started poking around in the game files and looking into how other mods do things

[zealous glen]

Does anyone have a Joker that uses the second output of Steamodded's loc_def function?

@frosty dock?

[frosty dock]

#1210728178201526373 spectral fool

[zealous glen]

Thanks

[frosty dock]

np

[glacial oasis]

Sorry this is more of a lua question but is there a easier way to type this return hands[1], hands[2], hands[3] hand is a table
return hands doesn't work

[zealous glen]

return hands should return a table, can you change whatever receives the output to receive a table?

[golden lake]

victin

did you see the Tangle Buddies

[zealous glen]

I did!

[golden lake]

do you like them

[zealous glen]

Did you see the Lucky 8r8k combo?

[golden lake]

yes!

it was very cool

[zealous glen]

Yes! I wonder if we'll get Grimdark Jimbo

[golden lake]

but yeah Tangle Buddies follow factorial increase

[zealous glen]

I didn't see the actual effect tho

[golden lake]

they give +Mult on factorial scale

its a Rare disguised as a Common

[shell timber]

they what

[golden lake]

they give +Mult based on factorial scaling

[zealous glen]

So if you score 5OAK it grants +5! Mult?

[golden lake]

better

it grants 1! + 2! + 3! + 4! + 5! mult

[silent sinew]

does anyone have any idea how i could force this card to be aligned by the top rather than the middle

[golden lake]

no idea

[zealous glen]

Maybe there's an offset option somewhere?

Alternatively, make a sprite that has a lot of invisible space above

[shell timber]

that's how CSS does it in morefluff

[golden lake]

but yeah Victin wanna see what it gives at 10 total duplicates scored?

[zealous glen]

I feel like the smaller terms tend to 0 but for O(5) it's close still

[zealous glen]

Wait does it scale over time?

[silent sinew]

but wouldn't that make the hitbox stick out a ton

[zealous glen]

Maybe? Probably? Definitely?

[silent sinew]

i might try hooking into align_cards

[golden lake]

it scales with each duplicate scored, red seal and sock work

[zealous glen]

Oh right

… Sock?

[golden lake]

sock and buskin

[zealous glen]

Ah

[zealous glen]

What was the inspiration for the effect?

[golden lake]

squiddles

it appears to be like, just a silly little early game joker that scales on pairs and 3oaks

maybe 4oaks if you're lucky

but in reality it's an eldritch horror wearing plush flesh

[zealous glen]

Will you make a long dog card?

[zealous glen]

I see

That gives me an idea

[golden lake]

yeah?

[silent sinew]

that wasn't TOO hard

it floats a bit higher than it feels like it should though

[exotic gull]

i love that

[silent sinew]

lmao you can see the tris

[exotic gull]

how did that happen xd

[silent sinew]

the sprite being taller makes the distortion more visible i guess

[exotic gull]

i see

do you have an effect for the joker?

[silent sinew]

no

[silent sinew]

i dont think i can fix this it seems basically hardcoded

[exotic gull]

LMAO

keep it for the memes

[vivid heart]

Not sure if i should ask here or in Modding chat but, i'm looking forward to start learning how to mod, is there anything you'd recommend to start with or to check out as a beginner?
Right now i've only done a little bit of modding before when trying to mod Slay the Spire, i know a bit of coding but i'm still a noob

[still jacinth]

set a goal to make a joker or something, search up similar jokers in the game's source code, look at the code he used, and see what you can do

also steamodded

[vivid heart]

That works

[vivid heart]

What's that?

[still jacinth]

its a mod (or api or something) that lets you add stuff easier

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/blob/main/README.md

[vivid heart]

Oooh I see, thanks for the help friend

Hope this isn't as hard as StS modding was

[silent sinew]

ok the solution made me feel stupid

this is exactly what i wanted lmao

the hitbox is the same as the original, it acts the exact same as a normal card but with That

the one issue is that it kinda sticks up off the card which i dont really like

it's more obvious when i move it near the edge

[frosty dock]

@edgy reef anything on updating payout arg API? iirc you said you had some things to update?

(conversion to lovely would be much appreciated, I'm not going through full function overrides I didn't even write myself haha)

[edgy reef]

Forgot to do that xdd

Lemme do my final and I can get onto it

[frosty dock]

aight no need to rush

[thorn bough]

hey wait a minute... ive seen this one

[frosty dock]

i can get started on sticker API though, right?

[edgy reef]

That should be fully converted yea

Unless I missed something

[silent sinew]

does anyone happen to know why this happens

[strong plume]

Does anyone have a reference image with all the Balatro colors'? I know Balatro has a very specific color palette and I want to reference it for spriting n stuff

[broken vine]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1223843446339665930

[strong plume]

Thank you!

[echo hatch]

lvl 5 2 rank sign (retrig every 2) + flush five of 2s + this = e32 ez clap

[granite wharf]

@strong plume @broken vine hey you guys are much smarter than me can you help me figure out what's wrong in #⚙・modding-general

sorry for the ping

btw

[strong plume]

I have literally never written a single piece of code in my life

Sorry

[granite wharf]

aw

[broken vine]

i've written like 2 lines of code, so not much better. will give it a crack, though

[ruby geyser]

Just need to check I'm not crazy - Invisible joker is slightly animated/has a subtle shader right?

It's not just the semi-transparent colouring

[maiden phoenix]

Yup

[warm moon]

Hey, just a simple question. Does anyone know whether, there is a documentation available for modding?

[broken vine]

like, for creating mods?

[warm moon]

yup

[broken vine]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1228599493914656788

start there, should link to others

[slow ocean]

does anyone know if you can combine size and color modifiers to text at the same time

[maiden phoenix]

There shouldn't be any issue

[slow ocean]

you only need one {} right

[maiden phoenix]

{s:the_size, C:the_color}

Or whatever but yes only one

[slow ocean]

oh worm you can do that

"{s:0.7, C:inactive}(Must have room){}",

am i stupid 😦

[maiden phoenix]

What if you split it?

[night pagoda]

what if swapped?

[slow ocean]

splitting did not work

[night pagoda]

does the color work without the size change?

[maiden phoenix]

Swap should work, I'm seeing a desc that does it

[slow ocean]

neither does swapping

oh hmm

[maiden phoenix]

Uh

[frosty dock]

I'm having issues merging into the refactor, can you merge the latest commit on main on your end?

[slow ocean]

oh its the space

that fixed it

i have opted, due to the nature of fusion jokers and a lot of them being very wordy, to simply shrink any parentheses text

like so

[mellow crag]

@shell timber Compat between codex and colors.
An alchemical that automatically sets the turn timer of all color cards held to 0

[silent sinew]

i wish i had literally ANY idea why this was happening

[edgy reef]

Wdym?

[low valve]

made a few joker textures of my ocs

[frosty dock]

uh where did the payout arg stuff go

the PR is just gone

[edgy reef]

uhh idk

[ruby geyser]

Trying to use this code to apply the shader to a joker, getting this error any idea what I've done wrong?

[edgy reef]

wait wha

Istg

[frosty dock]

your main branch seems to be what i need for the sticker API now, though I think that was payout args before??

[edgy reef]

I accidentally synced up the Payout Arg API instead of the Sticker API

Thank god I have it downloaded already

[frosty dock]

oh lmao

[silent sinew]

delete lines 138 and 139

[ruby geyser]

Oh I must have not understood the comment, I assumed it meant I had to keep the lines or it wouldn't draw properly lol

Wait no I just straight up didn't read LMAO

https://outplayed.tv/media/ojJgZ1 Using the same shader as Invisible ("voucher") do you guys reckon it's just the colour making it seem way more shiny or is there a value I need to tweak somewhere (I notice the self.ARGS.send_to_shader in the code that seems like a starter but not sure if that's me reading too much into the name)

[zealous glen]

Sorry, Idk about shaders. It does seem a bit too purple, but rather than making it less purple I think I'd try to add some rainbow-y colors in the light, so that it shows up in the edges, to make it feel more imaginary

New Joker: Wildheart! What do you think?

It's funny it has a lot of lines of code but it's mostly because it has a lot of conditionals

[ruby geyser]

The purple was more for it to be a "shadowy" invisible joker but will take on board!

[night pagoda]

I installed steamodded through lovely and now I always have the debug window, is it possible to get rid of it?

[silent sinew]

i have spent fucking hours trying to get this stupid bird to look right

[frosty dock]

add --disable-console to steam command flags

[silent sinew]

this should not be this hard

[night pagoda]

ty!

[frosty dock]

np

[wintry swallow]

can someone help me with some code? i'm trying to make it so whenever you play a straight, a variable goes up by one

[zealous glen]

Try Runner

[wintry swallow]

oh yeah thats a good idea

[silent sinew]

i fucking hate troubleshooting this front positioning so much

i'm actually gonna lose my mind

genuinely why is it so convoluted to make a card's sprite bigger without giving it a bigger hitbox

WHY

[wintry swallow]

well i hope you figure it out

[silent sinew]

i'm so close to giving up on this idea because i've been in the glsl trenches for half the fucking day and i've made no progress because all these variables have literally no indication as to what they do and i just have to guess

and it's just SO convenient that i have to restart the game completely and menu just to see the effect of a single change

[wintry swallow]

oh yeah wait where in the code do i make the function run

i am very confused lol

[boreal token]

you could probably force the card on the title screen to be the card you are working on

would still need to restart but thats not easily avoidable

i think theres ways to hot reload lua but i dont know for sure

[short surge]

yo for those of you who is doing additional suits

how do i get a list of suits that's supported?

[silent sinew]

i am curious if anyone knows of a way to make a joker's hitbox different from its sprite because if so then maybe the joker i was struggling with earlier could be salvaged

actually nvm i forgot that version still had the issue of the card floating way too high

this game just does not like long cards whatsoever

[short surge]

I'm pretty sure there were a few big cards?

[silent sinew]

actually i talked to my friend about it and they helped me realize i could probably just make the jank look intentional if i leaned into it considering reaper bird is an amalgamate

i think i'll give it another try tomorrow

[charred needle]

I have been trying to work on the code for my portion of the into the jokerverse set, and I have failed miserabley. I am going to bed, but before I do, I will leave you all with a sticker summarizing my session today

[thorn bough]

is it possible to have a soul image that is an arbitary size?

[worthy depot]

Most likely

[boreal token]

tryitands.ee

[rough furnace]

if you're able to get your change in the save file, you can install a debug mode mod and press l the second the game loads to load your save

[silent sinew]

i never thought about that

[rough furnace]

debug mode also has some handy stuff like spawning jokers and stuff

[thorn bough]

either im insane or the line self.children.floating_sprite = Sprite(self.T.x, self.T.y, self.T.w, self.T.h, G.ASSET_ATLAS['Joker'], self.config.center.soul_pos) has 5 args that litterally dont do anything

wait how does my code work at all?

[narrow pollen]

...why does my loc_def not update when variables increase...?

[mellow sable]

they might do things idk

either way floating_sprite and floating_sprite2 work in my code

[thorn bough]

well i found out, that they affect the legendaries

but not the spectrals

[mellow sable]

3-layer cards look rly cool (art by Mystic Misclick)

[thorn bough]

and my spectral literally shouldn't work, but it does anyway

oh dang

that cool

[mellow sable]

The Soul hardcodes soul_pos which is really annoying

if self.ability.name == 'Gateway' and (self.config.center.discovered or self.bypass_discovery_center) then
    local scale_mod2 = 0.07-- + 0.02*math.cos(1.8*G.TIMERS.REAL) + 0.00*math.cos((G.TIMERS.REAL - math.floor(G.TIMERS.REAL))*math.pi*14)*(1 - (G.TIMERS.REAL - math.floor(G.TIMERS.REAL)))^3
    local rotate_mod2 = 0--0.05*math.cos(1.219*G.TIMERS.REAL) + 0.00*math.cos((G.TIMERS.REAL)*math.pi*5)*(1 - (G.TIMERS.REAL - math.floor(G.TIMERS.REAL)))^2
    self.children.floating_sprite2:draw_shader('dissolve',0, nil, nil, self.children.center,scale_mod2, rotate_mod2,nil, 0.1--[[ + 0.03*math.cos(1.8*G.TIMERS.REAL)--]],nil, 0.6)
    self.children.floating_sprite2:draw_shader('dissolve', nil, nil, nil, self.children.center, scale_mod2, rotate_mod2) 
    
    local scale_mod = 0.05 + 0.05*math.sin(1.8*G.TIMERS.REAL) + 0.07*math.sin((G.TIMERS.REAL - math.floor(G.TIMERS.REAL))*math.pi*14)*(1 - (G.TIMERS.REAL - math.floor(G.TIMERS.REAL)))^3
    local rotate_mod = 0.1*math.sin(1.219*G.TIMERS.REAL) + 0.07*math.sin((G.TIMERS.REAL)*math.pi*5)*(1 - (G.TIMERS.REAL - math.floor(G.TIMERS.REAL)))^2

    self.children.floating_sprite.role.draw_major = self
    self.children.floating_sprite:draw_shader('dissolve',0, nil, nil, self.children.center,scale_mod, rotate_mod,nil, 0.1 + 0.03*math.sin(1.8*G.TIMERS.REAL),nil, 0.6)
    self.children.floating_sprite:draw_shader('dissolve', nil, nil, nil, self.children.center, scale_mod, rotate_mod)
    
end

My code pretty much does that too (there's another section initializing the sprites)

[thorn bough]

im just trying to get the thing to render without being cut off

[mellow sable]

rip

that might be an atlas sizing thing

also the cool thing is that editions only affect the bottom layer leading to some cool effects

[thorn bough]

which is why i was messing with this

[thorn bough]

bingo

[narrow pollen]

no seriously, why is it that a joker that i've taken ownership of isn't updating its tooltip to reflect its scaling?

[nimble sequoia]

which joker is it?

for sanity's sake, did you add the #1# to its description?

[narrow pollen]

yes

[nimble sequoia]

oh thats very weird

and you are hooking things up with the loc_def function properly?

[narrow pollen]

mhm

i see the initial value just fine

[nimble sequoia]

clearly this is out of my expertise

#2# should update unless the 2nd element is a static value

[narrow pollen]

both of them update dynamically, and track their values perfectly internally

[nimble sequoia]

i assume that ability.extra.chip_mod is being incremented by 2 each time?

[narrow pollen]

mhm

that's the idea

[nimble sequoia]

idk how to solve it right now sorry

[zealous glen]

Cool

[zealous glen]

Also cool

[zealous glen]

If the internal variables are correct then the tooltip isn't getting the new variables. Try printing when the tooltip should be rendered and what values it has when it is

[narrow pollen]

yeah, it's tracking the variables just fine

[zealous glen]

This… almost works

[narrow pollen]

hence my excerpt of the debug log

from lovely

[zealous glen]

The Joker yes, but obviously not the tooltip

So print during the tooltip

[narrow pollen]

mhm

it could access the variables during the tooltip

i'm just not sure how to force it to do so

[zealous glen]

That's what loc_def does

[narrow pollen]

maybe i need to clear name_parsed, and text_parsed?

[zealous glen]

Now I only need to make it so the player can't take actions while the animation is playing, and I would like to remove the small delay after the last trigger

[narrow pollen]

oh there we go

just having it generate in generate_UIBox_ability_table fixed it

[slow ocean]

wheres my mod that unsquares square joker

[narrow pollen]

joke's on you, i'm gonna make him even squarier

[broken vine]

the endgame is just one pixel joker but alas i think it already exists

[shell timber]

said one pixel joker is actually like 16x16

so it actually has a hitbox

[mellow crag]

https://gyazo.com/f07f78daf0a49e7a40007b50da22c8b4.mp4
Collabs are fun, and here's the first one from Codex: a new alchemical that only appears with @shell timber's MoreFluff: Ink!

[shell timber]

there's also Tan in morefluff that spawns a negative alchemical for every 2 rounds you've had it!

[river fern]

this is so awesome sauce

[narrow pollen]

agh, god damn

[nimble sequoia]

i square to god

[narrow pollen]

so difficult to slap in an extra S once the thing upgrades >.<

but i got there

[nimble sequoia]

i thought you can just concatenate the word "Chips" to the number if its greater than 1 no?

[frosty dock]

#3##4#, 3 is Chip, 4 is Chips. Leave the one you don't need blank

[zealous glen]

Probably a hacky way to do it is something like

function loc_def(self)
    return {self.ability.extra.value, (self.ability.extra.value > 1 and "Chips") or "Chip"}
end

Or that

[frosty dock]

hm that also works

[nimble sequoia]

i like victin's better

[frosty dock]

actually

Chip#3#

blank is singular, "s" if plural

[zealous glen]

Blank is "" right?

[frosty dock]

yeah

[royal ether]

what if you do Chip#2# where 2 is "s" or ""

oh wait

aure just said that

i will now leave

[narrow pollen]

yeah, also

y'all are forgetting that the increment value is itself a loc_var

and it gets incremented too

so yeah, Chip#3# would be correct, if i didn't already get it my jank way

probably correct outright, but i'm proud of the way i figured it out

also, this is fucking amazing testing luck haha

[zealous glen]

see above

[narrow pollen]

i mentioned that whoever said this got it right

[zealous glen]

Yes but no one forgot it was a loc_var

[narrow pollen]

okay, i guess only one person forgot

[zealous glen]

I don’t see anyone who did

[frosty dock]

hi chat

I'm thinking init functions are kinda redundant

what if we just thanos snap them

[nimble sequoia]

are u ready to reference vanilla code before they might be defined

[maiden phoenix]

What would it be replaced by?

[frosty dock]

like, metadata is already parsed for all mods before the file contents are loaded

[maiden phoenix]

So we'll just have to remove the init funcs?

[frosty dock]

there isn't really a point for each file to be loaded in order, then to run init funcs in that same order

that would also get rid of any confusion about what you need to put or not put in init functions

[maiden phoenix]

So true

[narrow pollen]

i think having optional init would be nice

[night pagoda]

Is it possible to dynamically remove lines on joker?

(in description)

[frosty dock]

i think you can have them be empty

[frosty dock]

what would it be useful for?

[night pagoda]

yeah I tried

but the empty line actually takes up some space ingame

[frosty dock]

{s:0}

[night pagoda]

I also tried that lmao

but it doesn't work inside a variable

what do I do?

[narrow pollen]

god, people were right about this~

[night pagoda]

I wonder if I can use variable as argument for size
EDIT:

[narrow pollen]

but tbh, i really think it's fine as a 9-cost rare

which ties into its theming of squares anyway

its cost is a perfect square, its base sell value is a perfect square, it involves playing exactly 4 cards (which is the number of sides a square has AND one of the only two perfect squares you can play)

and this effect really justifies being the most expensive base joker in the entire game

...i think.

oh, it's tied for that with another borderline broken joker

[zealous glen]

I think Castle or Idol or something uses a variable argument for color

But you can also manually add the rows to the tooltip

[mellow crag]

I really like just loading all the mods that I have and testing the consumable patch with them

[shell timber]

4 more colours coming today btw

[mellow crag]

ooh nice! What colors

[mellow crag]

where are notes

[shell timber]

oh i can do notes as well actually

purple?

[mellow crag]

yes

[narrow pollen]

what are you going to do for color and ink?

[shell timber]

um.

[frosty dock]

I'm thinking this should be a settings option in steamodded

[mellow crag]

we are planning on it

[frosty dock]

I have basic collection support in for the refactor (you can specify the number of cards in each row, and tarots/planets/spectrals are patched to use it), but rn it will just shove everything where things normally are

[mellow crag]

i see

the problem with this patch is that it its supposed to run after all of the other patches were implemented

[frosty dock]

have a look at my ConsumableType API if you want

[mellow crag]

will do

[frosty dock]

(help with testing is appreciated)

[shell timber]

purple

[crisp coral]

and why he ourple 😂

[frosty dock]

I still need to add support for shop rates and soul type cards and whatnot

[zealous glen]

New Joker: Moody!

[crisp coral]

i'll check out the new steamodded stuff tonight and start porting the mods

[mellow crag]

same

but I also wanna do some cross compat with Codex and other mods today XD

BTW @frosty dock do you have an example of a new consumable?

[frosty dock]

uh i don't think I have one ready

let me port something, one sec

wait no i do

SMODS.Consumable {
        set = 'Spectral',
        key = 'dummy',
        name = 'Dummy',
        atlas = 'my_tarots',
        pos = { x = 9, y = 2 },
        can_use = function() return true end,
        loc_txt = {
            name = 'Dummy',
            text = { 'Does nothing!' }
        }
    }:register()

[mellow crag]

does it also have a use function?

[frosty dock]

yeah, this one just happens to do nothing

[zealous glen]

Can you make custom sets?

[frosty dock]

yeah

[zealous glen]

no need to call me that ;P

[frosty dock]

that part is still missing a few features (shop stuff), but it should be mostly working

[zealous glen]

historical revisionism moment

[frosty dock]

💀

that was literally just a keyboard accident moment

I'll compile a list of all supported functions somewhere, I just haven't done that yet

[mellow crag]

does key automatically add c_ before it?

[shell timber]

yo

[mellow crag]

niiiice

[frosty dock]

it does

[mellow crag]

good

i love this new version BTW

adapting my current register to the new one

[zealous glen]

I'm just being silly ^^

[mellow crag]

and how do you add the new functions?

like this?

[frosty dock]

keys follow the format prefix_mod_key where prefix is usually specified by the class as whatever it needs to be, and mod is a mod prefix defaulting to the first 4 chars of the mod id

[frosty dock]

you just shove it in the constructor

[mellow crag]

can i register it after the fact?

[zealous glen]

Oh so there will be auto mod prefixes?

[mellow crag]

it automatically adds the mod prefix?

[frosty dock]

yeah

unless it's told not to via omit_prefix, in which case it just uses the provided key

(it's best not to touch that value for individual objects)

[mellow crag]

does it still add all of the optional fields in the register table?

[frosty dock]

you could change it after injection by modifying the object in SMODS.Centers

these first values at the top like unlocked and discovered act as default values, these will be set on any object created using that class unless otherwise specified

required_params must be present or the game crashes, any additional params are only present if you provide them

[mellow crag]

i see that you also change the way to add consumable tabs

since my tab not longer works

[frosty dock]

I'll try to incorporate an option that separates modded sets out to their own page

[mellow crag]

but did you change it in the base loader?

[frosty dock]

wdym

[frosty dock]

hm something might be missing

[mellow crag]

okay found the issue

[mellow crag]

for some reason NFS decided it won't work anymore

[frosty dock]

oh well

there might well be another patch or two needed, so far this is only tested with the vanilla sets

builtin optional dependencies btw

for your error tag thing, i made the loader find itself during loading, we should be able to use this to load sprites without making assumptions about the name of the directory we're in

[regal shoal]

Hi, is it possible to trigger something whenever you draw a card ?

[zealous glen]

Probably yes, but I don’t think natively

[royal ether]

you can hook generate uibox ability table and table.remove(ref.main, 1) i think

[zealous glen]

I have some code that edits the UI after it’s been created, maybe that can help

[narrow pollen]

now that i'm done with nightly dishes, i'm just wondering where jokers and such would be initialized, if not in init()

[night pagoda]

what is ref.main here?

[regal shoal]

Thx

[royal ether]

whatever the old generate uibox ability table returned

[night pagoda]

ahhh

didn't work for me; game told this was a function value

[royal ether]

weird, it should be a table

[zealous glen]

If you want I can send you my code that edits the table after it’s created

I think I made a Joker that’s compatible with Blueprint but not Brainstorm 🤔

[night pagoda]

yes please!

[night pagoda]

woah

that's a lot

[zealous glen]

What you want is to remove generate_UIBox_ability_table_val.main[1], I believe

[zealous glen]

I can probably refactor it. Currently it adds subtitles to Jokers with subtitles, adds a special tooltip to Cow, makes the text in Starfish smaller, and displays bonus Chips and Mult in Jokers that they gain Hiker-style

[night pagoda]

I created generate_UIBox_ability_table_val value based on this but I think it causes the titles of jokers to appear in the corner of the screen

[narrow pollen]

superposition is done. and of COURSE it would choose the 20% chance to spawn a spectral here.

[zealous glen]

make it local

Another hack which might be easier is to have an empty description but write the description inside main_end (second output of loc_def in Steamodded) and opt to skip the first line

[night pagoda]

it is local

[zealous glen]

hmmm, when I had that issue I fixed it by making it local

[zealous glen]

@night pagoda you can try this too

It sounds easier

[night pagoda]

oh yeah I'll try it rn

[ionic isle]

very cool

[night pagoda]

will it actually register the colors and such?

[zealous glen]

You need to manually build the objects

[night pagoda]

doesn't seem easier in that case lol

[zealous glen]

It's easier because that's all you need to do

No hooking, nothing else

I have a function that can help

Lemme just edit it

[night pagoda]

I mean I already have hooks anyways

[zealous glen]

local _generate_main_end = function(self)
    local content = {{n=G.UIT.R,config={align = "cm"},nodes={}}}
    content[1].nodes={
                {n=G.UIT.T, config={text = "+"..tostring(self.ability.extra.enhancements.Bonus.chips) ,colour = G.C.CHIPS, scale = 0.32}},
                {n=G.UIT.T, config={text = " Chips",colour = G.C.L_BLACK, scale = 0.32}},
            }
return {{n=G.UIT.C, config={align = "bm", minh = 0.4}, nodes=content}}

And then you do

joker.loc_def = function(self)
    return {}, _generate_main_end(self)
end

[night pagoda]

ty, will try

[narrow pollen]

odds for superposition have now been adjusted to 45% for tarot, 45% for planet, and 10% for spectral

[ionic isle]

does it have support for mods that add new consumables?

[maiden phoenix]

All the incoming jokers are coded 🥳

Gonna have to do a lot of spriting and polishing now

[wicked moth]

this is a funny one

i think you can tell what the effect is

[crisp coral]

all cards are flipped

[wicked moth]

it's more than that

it's every single boss blind at once

[crisp coral]

neat

[nimble sequoia]

kid named retcon:

[frosty dock]

that's terrifying

but why doesn't it need more score? (violet vessel + the wall)

[wicked moth]

it has the violet vessel score

ignored the wall

[rough furnace]

Kid named chicot

[frosty dock]

if you consider the wall and the needle, it should have 12X base

So twice that of violet vessel

but just taking the highest works ig

[wicked moth]

yeah chicot destroys this 💀

[frosty dock]

chicot being actually useful for once

the house + the water + the needle is already brutal

[ionic isle]

a more balanced version of this would be "combines 3 random boss blind effects" or for scaling "applies 1 random boss blind effect per hand played"

the current effect would work really well as the last blind of endless mode before naneinf, though

[frosty dock]

ante 40 mega-showdown boss lmao

[ionic isle]

The Blind

[formal viper]

All cards are face down(Acorn + Mark + Wheel + Fish + House)
All cards are debuffed(Suit bosses + Verdant + Pillar + Crimson)
1 hand(Needle) | 0 discards(Water) | -1 hand size(Manacle)
1 card always selected(Bell) | X6 blind req(Violet)
Discards 2 cards every hand(Hook) | Lose $ per card played(Tooth)
Decrease level of played hand(Arm) | Must play 5 cards(Psychic)
Can only play 1 hand type(Mouth) | No repeat hand types(Eye)
Base chip/mult is halved(Flint) | Most played hand sets money to 0(Ox)```

[wicked moth]

yeah that wasn't meant to be balanced to begin with

[ionic isle]

well it would be balanced if you did this

run would end anyway so might as well put it there and if you either somehow manage to beat it or you have chicot then you win endless mode

[potent swan]

Boss: The Coffin Dancer

[ionic isle]

also 1 random joker is disabled every hand and your most common hand removes all money

[formal viper]

everything is already disabled

[ionic isle]

everything?

[formal viper]

idk everything tho

lol

[ionic isle]

crimson disables 1 random joker per hand

[formal viper]

i haven't seen verdant in so long i forgot if it disabled everything

[ionic isle]

verdant debuffs all cards until 1 joker is sold during it

[formal viper]

joker is called a card by campfire so

[ionic isle]

does verdant include jokers? i dont think it did but idr

[formal viper]

following terminology joker = card, verdant disables all cards so

[zealous glen]

I think it would be interesting if inside the same Blind it started another Blind

[ionic isle]

yeah it doesnt seem like it does

[zealous glen]

So basically the deck doesn’t refresh and you can’t go to the shop

But you get new hands and discards

[ionic isle]

thats a boss blind concept isnt it?

[zealous glen]

Everything is a card, I think, except maybe Tags and Blinds

[formal viper]

imagine the modded blinds combining

[zealous glen]

To me that’s just a mod concept

[formal viper]

most cryptid mod combos would be near impossible

[zealous glen]

Where every boss is like that

[ionic isle]

verdant doesnt debuff jokers in screenshots i found of it debuffing cards

[ionic isle]

oh ok cool

[ionic isle]

true

[formal viper]

Violet Vessel + Rage = high blind req that scales even higher

The Tax + The Needle is impossible without boss disabling shenanigans or burglar

[ionic isle]

needle is just op in combination blinds tbh

[formal viper]

currently brainstorming deck stuff for cryptid

[ionic isle]

and if you get wall or water with it then your run is basically just over at that point

[formal viper]

need the last 3 sins

[night pagoda]

What is the text thingy to make letters slightly bounce like in joker's titles?

[zealous glen]

I believe it’s E

[night pagoda]

ty!

[zealous glen]

It’s usually E:1, Idk what changes if you change it

[night pagoda]

I ended up with this as a solution for removing lines btw

[zealous glen]

That’s about what I had

[zealous glen]

I keep seeing “exotic” what does it mean 🤔

[formal viper]

mod

[zealous glen]

Balatro Modding Cinematic Universe?

[formal viper]

cryptid mod

[night pagoda]

"exotic" refers to exotic suits in bunco

[formal viper]

lol

wrong exotic

[night pagoda]

I'll show in a sec

[formal viper]

dang that sec kinda long

[night pagoda]

yeah having some troubles sorry

one more sec

[formal viper]

not another sec

[night pagoda]

shit, I can't show you

I'll do it later

sorry!

😔

urghhh

how do I check where the card is in generate_card_ui

I thought it'd be _c.area but it is nil

[zealous glen]

Take a look at my code

I think sometimes it gets called when a card object doesn’t exist or something

[night pagoda]

too late; I made that the info actually gets passed into _c

[zealous glen]

I’d write it as self.whatever = self.whatever or self.area.config

[night pagoda]

yuck, when I remove from table it creates what it removed

...I don't have any idea for the direction to go to get rid of this

@zealous glen @formal viper exactly two seconds passed ✅

not a fan of animation; it gets applied to each word separately

the {E:1} I mean

[zealous glen]

I think it depends on the position of the character in the line

Which gives it a wavy movement

[night pagoda]

yeah but because of the colors I needed to write that multiple times

[zealous glen]

hmm, then maybe it depends on the position of the specific string

[zealous glen]

Do you know what the 1 means?

[night pagoda]

nope!

it does something?

I looked at the code and didn't found any E: with different number other than 1

[zealous glen]

I imagine it’s either amplitude or offset

But maybe it just needs to have a number

[zealous glen]

If it’s offset you can use it to make it look right, I believe

[night pagoda]

ahh no that's not what I mean

look how the words appear when I hover

normally it would appear as one whole thing

and instead of that each word has appearing animation separately

[zealous glen]

Ah, doesn’t it look like that normally for colored text?

No

Hmmm

Maybe the 1 is the time it takes to show up? I had forgotten about that possibility

[night pagoda]

set it to zero and the effect now isn't even there lol

honestly maybe I'm fine with no effect at all

[zealous glen]

Try 100

[night pagoda]

also no effect

[golden lake]

hi chat

[willow grail]

hi

[golden lake]

new Balatrostuck logo dropped

[mellow crag]

Oh?

Soon?

[golden lake]

yes

[mellow crag]

Oooooh

So excited

[ionic isle]

4 days

[zealous glen]

I like the green

[scenic zenith]

if i wanted to make a deck that works with cards and potentially debuffs them anyone know how i could figure out how to do that

i'd need to know what cards are scored
how to debuff cards
how to remove debuff after a blind is finished

i have no idea how you mod for this

[crisp coral]

-find something that passes through a scoring_hand
-Card.debuff = true
-all blinds automatically remove normal debuffs

the debuffs from the challenge are permanent debuffs

[scenic zenith]

where can i go through the code

is there some program to let you do that easily

(i thought it wasn't allowed ngl)

no idea how you mod without it though

[zealous glen]

Maybe Balatrostuck had some Joker debuff cards. It's not out, but try asking the creator

[zealous glen]

7zip

[scenic zenith]

is the .exe just a 7zip

[zealous glen]

basically

[scenic zenith]

ok that's awesome

lmao

[golden lake]

Tangle Buddies!! :D

[formal viper]

gimme a clip with retriggered 5oak

[formal viper]

i really thought long and hard about the equation of the given mult

then i realized it's literally factorials

[golden lake]

tangle buddies moment

[maiden phoenix]

This is so funny

Damocles jumpscare

[zealous glen]

Love it

Here's a proof-of-concept. Don't take the numbers and animations too seriously.

[maiden phoenix]

Wild

[odd dock]

lmfao

[zealous glen]

When I first saw the ||deck just vanish|| I laughed out loud

[odd dock]

whats with the soul_pos consumables?

[zealous glen]

Ah, I made some as a test. I think I'll release a mod to make Planet cards use soul_pos but it's not really a priority

[odd dock]

sounds really cool

[maiden phoenix]

Even better

[odd dock]

misprint joker if it was funny

the star gazing joker looks good

[zealous glen]

Do you think 11 hands would be a reasonable number?

[odd dock]

is that thematic?

[zealous glen]

Kinda

1025 would be more thematic but that's too much

[odd dock]

i think 11 would be kinda ok, a little slow

[zealous glen]

It's a strong effect—if you could control when it happens

[odd dock]

3 rounds is fine but you might not be playing every hand each round

[zealous glen]

You can always play High Card

[odd dock]

true

[unkempt thicket]

optimizing

[bitter sand]

bro's cooking pretty hard

[ruby geyser]

Does anyone have an example of creating a specific tarot on [Condition]? Closest I can think is blue seal?

[wild gyro]

there's bad legal defense from morefluff

(spawns a death tarot when boss blind is selected)

[zealous glen]

What do you mean?

There's a create_card and I think you can just ask it to create a specifically named card

[ruby geyser]

I want to create specifically a Lovers tarot when a specific hand is played

[zealous glen]

I think you can just pass the slug to the second to last entry of create_card

I create specifically cows and specific kinds of milk

[ruby geyser]

Yeah, wanted to check if it was a different entry for tarot than it was for planets

[zealous glen]

you can check the slugs in the localization table

I think that's the easiest way

Has anyone tried to flip cards in the deck?

[ruby geyser]

Yeah got it to work for this very dumb joke

[zealous glen]

Wildheart synergy! Nice!

[zealous glen]

☝️

[ruby geyser]

Together they would be unstoppable!

Works with multiple hand types as well, can obviously play 2pair/full house/flush but also 9 and 10 high straights which I think is neat

[remote coral]

The One

[zealous glen]

I also implemented that Joker (suggested by EggSlashEther)

[maiden phoenix]

Nice

[ruby geyser]

It's a little different (these jokers are meant mostly as jokes for my friend to play so obviously it's not properly balanced)

[wild gyro]

small nitpick, the x in x1.5 and x0.1 should be capitalized

[zealous glen]

Here's The One @ruby geyser

[ruby geyser]

Yeah imma rewrite the text anyway

[zealous glen]

I do like Purple One

also Pride Jimbo