💻・modding-dev

[odd dock]

oh thats interesting

[edgy reef]

Ok lemme do another run (I got Yorick and Brainstorm)

[mellow crag]

oh?

[crisp coral]

what are we cooking

[river fern]

OOO

CARD AREA

[slow ocean]

[shell timber]

didn't the cine cards guy make a cardarea

[slow ocean]

i was trying to find space that wouldnt overlap with it whenever it came out

[random sleet]

smol card area...

[shell timber]

could actually be kind of interesting?

[random sleet]

trinket area....

[shell timber]

yes

[crisp coral]

oh my god

[shell timber]

nonconsumeable oddity area (?!)

[crisp coral]

yknow you can probably also have a separate area for actives

er. active (singular)

[random sleet]

that could be interesting but i think having them in joker slots gives them more mechanical weight? it probably would be trivial to make it a config option though...

[shell timber]

consumeable slots?

or actives

[crisp coral]

how'd you make backpack work then

[silent sinew]

trinkets and actives we're making this game isaac

[random sleet]

actives yeah
backpack would just be like "usable jokers give +1 joker slot (up to 3 total)" or something

[silent sinew]

does anyone in chat know how i could pull this off rn

[random sleet]

lovely injection?

[silent sinew]

i have no idea how that works

[random sleet]

its not terribly complicated, you can always reference the lovely.toml in steamodded or check out like, risk of jesters

[silent sinew]

oh it has it in the readme nvm

[random sleet]

oh there's a readme that works too

[silent sinew]

i guess i could just make This Specific Feature lovely exclusive

but anyone who doesn't use lovely is a SUCKER anyway! (Joke)

[river fern]

“joke” :3

[random sleet]

thats basically my approach, if its not critical to the gameplay then whatever but ill make anything that mechanically requires my lovely patch only load if lovely is loaded

[edgy reef]

Ok, on an actually practical run that isn't influenced by Legendary joker shenanigans, I think this joker is pretty nice for its effect

Wait

I can get 2

Due to showman

nooo it doesn't level it up by 6

sad

[silent sinew]

honestly the workflow for lovely injection seems so much nicer than having to hook into shit all the time

i'm still gonna make as much of my stuff steamodded compatible as possible but man

[random sleet]

smods will require lovely Soon™️ anyway

[silent sinew]

good

[shell timber]

hm. Huge Joker is rare now

which is good. i needed more rares

hm

seems kinda weak?

might make it just X2

x4 mult iff you're holding 2 colour cards

[river fern]

perkeo…

[shell timber]

Ignoring Perkeo For Sanity

[slow ocean]

if you're perkeoing color cards youre not perkeoing cryptid

seems fine to me

[odd dock]

also means you're not perkeoing temperance

[silent sinew]

does lovely injection affect everything that matches the pattern or only the first thing

[edgy reef]

hmm

[bold osprey]

For the wording i would write "Each time a hand is played, decrease the level of every poker hand by 1 except played hand"

[silent sinew]

ok i give up

[frosty dock]

currently X0?

[silent sinew]

i just want to decrease percentage but its being so damn stubborn

[edgy reef]

It's supposed to be 1X

[frosty dock]

tbh X0 is funnier bc losing all your clubs is now a lose condition

but it has to be eternal lmao

[edgy reef]

Thought of "cultivate a forrest, avoid it getting burned" when taking a shower

[silent sinew]

does steamodded hook into eval card and mess with percentage or something because i cant think of any other reason why it keeps getting reset

[frosty dock]

not sure what you mean by percentage

[silent sinew]

sorry i meant eval play

[edgy reef]

Black Hole and Starlight jokers are already effectively eternal (can't be sold or destroyed)

[silent sinew]

its the variable that controls the pitch of the sound effects when your playing cards and jokers trigger

[frosty dock]

X0 base is funnier then

[frosty dock]

yeah no I don't think that's being messed with in smods

[silent sinew]

maybe i'll come back to it when i'm not so tired

[calm nova]

anyone know what lua in the game has the description for the jokers

[silent sinew]

loc_txt?

[random sleet]

descriptions are in localizations/<lang>.lua

[silent sinew]

oh thats what you meant

[random sleet]

as is the rest of the text

[calm nova]

i dont see lang.lua

ohh nvm

[silent sinew]

i kinda wanna add reversed tarot cards in jokicide tbh

i know other mods have done it before but i feel like its probably the most vanilla way to add new tarots

[random sleet]

do it
we need 8 mods that all add reverse tarot

it'll be funny, trust 🙏
do it for the funny 🙏

[silent sinew]

also because some of the effects i have in mind i can only see working with pre existing tarots 😭

like the "destroy a joker and gain twice its sell value" could only be death ever

[slow ocean]

alright i banged out 3 new [REDACTED] today

and fallout 4 is still not done

[random sleet]

that could be anything. it could even be shaders!

[random sleet]

Death (Alt Art)

[slow ocean]

i actually touched aseprite today

[silent sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-spongebob-meme-i-don't-get-it-confused-gif-12091655509524369436

[slow ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844954755436249088/1230054355441418261/waowcube.gif

thats how i feel trying to make shaders work with atlases

[random sleet]

did you get it tho

[slow ocean]

no

[random sleet]

oh

[slow ocean]

i mean the shaders i wrote for thac should be fine

i was trying to do something for itay but

[random sleet]

oh you mean for the flip one

[slow ocean]

yee

im sure its possible but i think it would need like some sort of editing on the .lua side of things to input an atlas size or smth

[random sleet]

does the shader know/can you tell it the pos of the sprite and/or size of the atlas

.... i see

[slow ocean]

i can flip the uvs, but that doesn't adjust the position on the atlas

[random sleet]

theres probably some jank math that could be done to directly flip the coordinates

are you able to access how large the spritesheet is?

[slow ocean]

maybe? you might need to hack self.ARGS.send_to_shader

or well, the base of that

[random sleet]

right. idk what glsl offers for logic based on the given image

[silent sinew]

have you tried editing uv.x and uv.y

[slow ocean]

i did

like i said, flipping the uv.x and y doesn't accomodate for the whole sprite sheet being rotated

[silent sinew]

i remember that moving everything around in the sandbox i was using but idk how it works in balatro

[slow ocean]

it works fine for things that dont have an atlas

like my jokers

but jimbo will display as a flash card for example if you just flip uvs

[mellow crag]

autumn!

[random sleet]

you'd need to know the size of the atlas image; could hardcode it for 71x95 sprites, so i think all you need is to figure out atlas size sensing

feder!

did you investigate the thing i dm'd you

[silent sinew]

idk if this is a thing in lua but maybe you can like make a new atlas on the fly that's cropped to that specific joker's sprite

[slow ocean]

hardcoding it to 71x95 might not work since the way the game does 1x and 2x sprites

[random sleet]

im not sure if its my fault or the api and i was too tired to figure it iut

[random sleet]

oh heck

[slow ocean]

i might tackle it again in the morning

i've tried doing a ratio of 71:95 to see if that would work instead but i might be too dumb at glsl and it just stretched everything

[silent sinew]

are you sure you need a shader to just rotate a sprite anyway?

[slow ocean]

i know you dont

but itay was doing a visual request of mine and one of the ways of trying to do it was a shader

so i figured i'd try to tackle it

[silent sinew]

i see

[slow ocean]

(it's flip flop from fusion jokers)

[random sleet]

i think itd look better if druggler/junkard visually rotated when switching so i'd still stick to inengine personally but idk how much you run into "i have to fight every line of code in this game to rotate a card and have it stay there"

[slow ocean]

from what feder was going through it was Not Fun

[random sleet]

yeah... :( i guess an alternative is do a fancy animation and then try to seamlessly switch to the rotated shader

or just not be flashy with it idk

[frosty dock]

druggler sounds like something else :I

[silent sinew]

just make thunk add the utility in the base game

[queen scroll]

hello i have a question: how does the game figure out which sprites are rendered on top of others?

[slow ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/live-jonkler-reaction-joker-batman-arkham-man-gif-17809721599016283530

imagine the word druggler is here or smth

[frosty dock]

there's a separate soul_pos sprite that's rendered on top of the base sprite and rotates

[frosty dock]

junkard: 🗑️

[queen scroll]

yeah, but i want to make a card render on top of an entirely different card

[slow ocean]

like a seperate card?

[queen scroll]

yeah

[slow ocean]

or just like the image of a card

[frosty dock]

oh

[queen scroll]

yeah, i have two jokers and i want one to render on top of the other regardless of order

[unkempt thicket]

btw #1231184565444415628 message is working

[slow ocean]

you love to see it

[edgy reef]

Funny joker combo

I GOT SMEARED

[frosty dock]

[edgy reef]

Maybe setting it to 0.3X might be too much...

[shell timber]

oh what does the gnu joker do (or is that reshuffled)

[edgy reef]

Reshuffled Bull

[slow ocean]

is it intentionally spelled forrests

it should be forests otherwise

[edgy reef]

bruh

:programming:

[slow ocean]

its ok

[edgy reef]

(also I duped four of them)

[queen scroll]

ok i figured it out, in case anyone wants to know it's just based on the order their card:draw() is called in

[stiff locust]

oh hey i did that one

[narrow pollen]

holy shit that felt good

oops, forgot i was replying to something, mb

anyway

just got a minor visual issue fixed in enhanceAPI

[errant flower]

hey so im new here and im trying to figure out how to get my modding adventure on the way

[calm nova]

so its reading this as a nil but im confused cause have it the same as my other jokers??

its a path for the sprite

[narrow pollen]

can we see some of the surrounding code? a bit hard to understand what's going on from just a simple "nil" error

[calm nova]

yea my bad

[calm nova]

my brain be hurting with this one lol'

[bold osprey]

size 0B

[frosty dock]

ah yes

[golden lake]

morning balatro modding nation

[frosty dock]

gm

[calm nova]

morning

[bold osprey]

morning

[errant flower]

moring

[calm nova]

Anyone know what’s going on?

[bold osprey]

the uppercase

@calm nova

[calm nova]

i tried and same thing

[bold osprey]

i have no idea

[calm nova]

man

[bold osprey]

maybe a problem here

which would cause the nil

no that's not it

it's the last instance of Sprite call that causes problems wtf

[calm nova]

yea its weird

[bold osprey]

crashes on load ?

shouldn't there be an end here ?

[calm nova]

yes sir

[bold osprey]

or you added one too many end

[calm nova]

when i do it crashes for that

yea says one too many

[bold osprey]

i think you have 1 too many end somewhere whch would cause it to be called outsde the init so a global nil

beautfied code

clearly one too any end soewhere

should do it

before the if crackedstone reove one and add one after the last end of crackedstone

[calm nova]

forsure i mightve went to crazy lol

[bold osprey]

https://codebeautify.org/lua-beautifier

can help

[calm nova]

thank you that forsure will

[bold osprey]

it works ?

[calm nova]

trying rn

yea it works thank you

[bold osprey]

🙂

[calm nova]

so remove a end then add one whenever i add another joker?

[bold osprey]

no

just put it inside the function

x)

[calm nova]

ahh okay

[mellow crag]

I don’t like UI

[shell timber]

who does?

[mellow crag]

I’m working on tabs for the hand API

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1227503509960916992/1233682025014366325/image.png?ex=662dfb6b&is=662ca9eb&hm=719963982733441281c89a9c6a05eaef809a90e9653a9ebaf61b7e611ee803ef&

Cause it can get really long

But it just won’t refresh when I move the page!

[bold osprey]

itay i'm gonna make a huge update to the sound Api XD

[shell timber]

evidently

[mellow crag]

Ooh!

What’s in it?

[bold osprey]

the one on core rn is missing so much

https://github.com/Infarcactus/Balatro-Custom-Sound-Player

[shell timber]

hm. how can i make jimbo cube

[maiden phoenix]

Was gonna say every 3oak with 3 cards do something but im pretty sure that already exists

[random sleet]

agreed

[zealous glen]

Why not a slider?

I think a slider would make more sense for hands

[random sleet]

scroll bars are illegal

[mellow crag]

You are a genius

[random sleet]

good luck coding one o7

probably actually harder tbh

[gray apex]

Is it possible to make a voucher add free rerolls for each shop? It seems like G.GAME.current_round.free_rerolls gets reset to 0 whenever the shop is rerolled.

[mellow crag]

There is a scroll wheel in the game already, right?

… right?

[random sleet]

no

[mellow crag]

Oh

[whole sun]

I had an idea for a mod that I’d love to make but don’t know where to start.

[mellow crag]

The best way to start is to look at other mods, and to look at the game’s code itself

[random sleet]

i cannot recommend enough that you do not look at the convoluted and jank code in my mod

(look at sixsuits or mikas mod instead i think those are generally cleaner)

[worthy depot]

Your code makes me cry low key.

[whole sun]

I guess all the coding I really need to figure out is how to implement a joker, and Ceremonial Dagger. If Lua is as straight forward as people make it out to be, it shouldn’t be the worst

[random sleet]

Good

[whole sun]

Easier than learning C+ at least

[random sleet]

lua is pretty easy

you can use 7zip to open balatro.exe and extract the lua meat inside

[whole sun]

I’d say the only coding knowledge I have is Scratch, but I did take an html class in college

[golden lake]

just saw a video of some dumbass trying to say people have double standards for defending thunk on if-else statements but criticizing yandev for the same thing 🤦

dude its almost like they're 2 different games

[random sleet]

good news: lua is easy to learn
bad news: lua isn't really similar to those two

[whole sun]

Kinda figured

[zealous glen]

I think there is?

[random sleet]

nah everything's pages

[golden lake]

Lua's great honestly now that I wrote it for a while

[zealous glen]

There’s a slider for volume/CRT at least

[random sleet]

not really the same thing

[mellow crag]

It’s either I do endless node chaining, or I figure out a way to actually reload the pages correctly

[surreal marsh]

redeem() changes current_round_voucher to nil in an E_MANAGER event, and I want to change it back, but my event freezes the game. Does anyone know why it freezes the game and how to change current_round_voucher as I want?

[zealous glen]

You could cheat and make it discrete instead of continuous, like pages but each page has hands from n to n+k

[golden lake]

node chains! node chains! node chains!

[mellow crag]

How do I access the nodes of the overlay

That is the question

[random sleet]

is it THAT different from collection pages? lol

[mellow crag]

Kinda

[golden lake]

balatro UI is the real part of balatro held by hopes and dreams i think

[mellow crag]

Since collection pages have cards that can refresh themselves and alert the page

[random sleet]

ah i see

[mellow crag]

I can’t do that with the hand UI

Since it does not really exist

It’s just an array of ui objects

[crisp coral]

the people who make fun of thunk's joker ifelse have never seen the nodes[1] hell

[golden lake]

my thoughts

[mellow crag]

When do we make the balatro mod slander video?

[random sleet]

is there no way to just like, yeet all loaded ui nodes and load in new ones?

[mellow crag]

I need to reach them

[random sleet]

treat it like switching to voucher view, perhaps

[crisp coral]

carefully call the remove function for every children object

[zealous glen]

@mellow crag what if you use create_slider to render the hands from n to n+k?

[random sleet]

idk im just spitballing im stuck at work

[golden lake]

it shouldn't be too difficult provided you can identify the container

[random sleet]

i think you can just remove the whole thing tbh

[mellow crag]

I am not home rn sadly

[mellow crag]

That’s the problem

[random sleet]

pretty sure its recursive

[mellow crag]

I cannot identify the container

[golden lake]

hm crap

[crisp coral]

what container we talking bout

[mellow crag]

Poker hand level ui

If only you could add an id to a container, and get it using a func

[zealous glen]

To be fair, I found it easier to just go tooltip.main[1][3][2] and edit the contents directly after they’ve been created instead of needing to navigate the nodes

[crisp coral]

each row of poker hand? or

[shell timber]

hm

[mellow crag]

The entire group of rows

[shell timber]

X3 mult, you cannot see joker slots

[mellow crag]

I am working on a poker hand API, so I want to introduce pages of hands, to make sure that the hands don’t overflow

[crisp coral]

PAGES HELL

ONE OF US

[mellow crag]

My friend

I am so deep in pages hell it hurts

[golden lake]

this is gonna be awful isnt it

[random sleet]

just wait til he gets it done and then i add enough hands for 10 pages

[crisp coral]

since i'm planning to do something to the run info ui ig i can see where it is

add a hand for every permutation of cards played

[whole sun]

I’m in insomnia mode so I guess I’m gonna try learning a bit of lua through reverse engineering

[mellow crag]

I
Hate
You

No it will work fine don’t worry

Oh sorry for the reply ping

[crisp coral]

weh

[golden lake]

that's what you get for suggesting that myst..

[mellow crag]

And I also have another ui problem that I am working on

[whole sun]

So why can’t we ping Myst on reply?

[mellow crag]

But that one is with the joker menu

[zealous glen]

I think the function you want is create_UIBox_current_hand_row

[mellow crag]

XD I know how to add the rows

[golden lake]

she doesnt like it

[whole sun]

Fair

[zealous glen]

Fair

[golden lake]

the problem arent the rows

[mellow crag]

The problem is with changing the displayed rows

[zealous glen]

But I meant like to start searching the code

[golden lake]

its to add pages

[mellow crag]

Oh the pages exist

[golden lake]

so that you can split up the hand row

[mellow crag]

The button does “switch berween pages”

[zealous glen]

I thought it’d be a slider

[mellow crag]

But the display does not change

[crisp coral]

oh this is similar to how i added rows to houserules

[golden lake]

i think you'll have to effectively rewrite thunk's logic though to a bit

because currently all hands are being drawn together in one call

[mellow crag]

Rewriting never scared me

[golden lake]

you'll have to do it recursively i think?

[mellow crag]

I have that part fixed already

[golden lake]

oh good

then you need to add the pages button i presume?

[mellow crag]

The problem is switching between two displays of hands

[random sleet]

i think the best way to do it for vanilla parity is to just re-generate the whole UI, which is what i think it does when you go between tabs in runinfo already?

[mellow crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1227503509960916992/1233682025014366325/image.png?ex=662dfb6b&is=662ca9eb&hm=719963982733441281c89a9c6a05eaef809a90e9653a9ebaf61b7e611ee803ef&

[golden lake]

hm

ok so it has pages

so the arrows don't do stuff?

[mellow crag]

The only problem is refreshing the display for each page

[mellow crag]

The arrows do stuff, they change the correct value

The display is the issue

[crisp coral]

okay so what you wanna do is just regenerate the entire uibox for each page

[mellow crag]

And I think I know how to do it

[golden lake]

what about the display

[mellow crag]

Kinda yeah

[golden lake]

oh god

[mellow crag]

But I need to reach the uibox for that

[crisp coral]

well isn't it just the return for create_UIBox_current_hands

[mellow crag]

Yeah

[crisp coral]

like just overwrite that with the pages func

[mellow crag]

But I need to find where to place that

[crisp coral]

oh hm

[mellow crag]

I already edit this function

It works correctly

[random sleet]

the code for switching between poker hands/blinds/vouchers holds the key....

[crisp coral]

lookign at create_tabs gives me a headache

[mellow crag]

Will look deeper when I return home

[random sleet]

same lol

[crisp coral]

wait fuck i need to mess with this exact function for a thing i want to do

killing myself

don't worry i have a solution

[golden lake]

careful, thunk might see this..

[frosty dock]

lmao

[golden lake]

also this is a little offtopic but i need to share it with y'all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzn6wCUECpw&ab_channel=MidwestCentralBand (Weezer Buddy Holly Breakcore Mix)

[worthy depot]

#⚙・modding-general

[golden lake]

this is specifically for the devs though

this is my dev music

helps get the juices flowing

[gray apex]

Is it generally a good idea to replace a vanilla function with a modified one? I've modified the new_round function so that my free reroll vouchers work for each shop, but will that have unintended consequences?

[random sleet]

it wasnt exactly explained well, but i was a bit under the impression this chat was more specifically for people trying to get help with code? not 100% tho

[golden lake]

just for dev stuff

not for help with stuff

just dev stuff generally

[golden lake]

yes it will, don't do that

[crisp coral]

the main point was to not get "how install steamodded" during a convo anyway

[golden lake]

if any other mod calls that function expecting vanilla behavior

you're screwing them over

don't modify vanilla code

[random sleet]

or

use lovely

[crisp coral]

lovely

i need to use it for mystblinds just to not have High Card displayed lol

[gray apex]

Problem is, I don't really know of any other way to do this, since this function directly sets free_rerolls to the amount of Chaos the Clown jokers there are

[random sleet]

patch it with lovely or hook it normally?

[crisp coral]

i think you can just append the voucher code at the end

[golden lake]

you should be fine just appending the code yes

[gray apex]

How might I do that?

[golden lake]

don't override the function though

you make a ref

what's the function called?

new_round?

[gray apex]

Yeah, in the state_events lua file

[golden lake]

ok so what you want to do is

local new_roundref = new_round
function new_round()
new_roundref()
-- your code here
end

[random sleet]

still thinking about this
were you serious or not
is it that bad...

[frosty dock]

uh if it's a global func like that, there is no self

[golden lake]

gotcha

[gray apex]

local new_roundref = new_round
function new_round()
    new_roundref()
    if G.GAME.used_vouchers.v_gm_extra_roll then
        G.GAME.current_round.free_rerolls = G.GAME.current_round.free_rerolls + 1
    end

    if G.GAME.used_vouchers.v_gm_free_roll then
        G.GAME.current_round.free_rerolls = G.GAME.current_round.free_rerolls + 1
    end
end

Like this?

[golden lake]

no self

sorry

[crisp coral]

no it's fairly organized imho

[golden lake]

also its new_roundref here

not red

[gray apex]

Whoops

[golden lake]

but yeah

[random sleet]

the difference is if theres an <object>: in front, the colon is shorthand for "argument #1 is self"

[gray apex]

Also is there a good way to give myself vouchers? I'm currently just spamming 16 negative copies of a custom joker that gives a Voucher Tag.

[random sleet]

DebugPlus can spawn vouchers into the shop

[golden lake]

deck creator

will have to check out debugplus fr

[random sleet]

its very helpful, big recommen

[mellow crag]

Bold to assume I use lovely

[worthy depot]

It's probably just me because I don't really know what I'm doing. I'm trying to dissect it but it's not clicking in my head lol Would you mind if I dm'd you any questions about it in the future?

[crisp coral]

this user does not use lovely

@ meth, crush their balls

[golden lake]

wait tf im also not using lovely

i thought i was

i guess when i updated i fucked it up

1 sec chat

[random sleet]

oh yeah, im down to help if you are genuinely trying to understand how it works

[worthy depot]

[crisp coral]

autumn how do you create card

[random sleet]

idk ask your mother

[random sleet]

i just know its not exactly Beginner Friendly code so im not gonna point people to it who are like, just starting to learn lua yk

[gray apex]

Huh, this doesn't give any free rerolls.

[crisp coral]

try calculate_reroll_cost(true)

[random sleet]

looks right to me, did you misspell a voucher name perchance

oh and the thing myst said

[gray apex]

These voucher names are right, I'll give Myst's suggestion a go

Still $5 rerolls

local new_roundref = new_round
function new_round()
    new_roundref()
    if G.GAME.used_vouchers.v_gm_extra_roll then
        G.GAME.current_round.free_rerolls = G.GAME.current_round.free_rerolls + 1
    end

    if G.GAME.used_vouchers.v_gm_free_roll then
        G.GAME.current_round.free_rerolls = G.GAME.current_round.free_rerolls + 1
    end

    calculate_reroll_cost(true)
end

[crisp coral]

hm

double check your vouchers

[gray apex]

Double checked and the voucher names here are correct

This part of the function here

local chaos = find_joker('Chaos the Clown')
G.GAME.current_round.free_rerolls = #chaos
calculate_reroll_cost(true)

is placed within one of those G.E_MANAGER:add_event things.
Does that change the order in which the code is run?

[random sleet]

ohhhhhh yeah

that'll do it, events are ran at the next appropriate available timing

[gray apex]

So it's being run after my appended code?

[random sleet]

yeah

what you can do in that case is add another event of your own

which will then happen after the one in the original function (Queue rules not Stack rules)

[gray apex]

Alright, I'll give this a shot

Yes! It works!

[golden lake]

HOMESTUCK REFERENCE

[gray apex]

Thanks yall!

[whole sun]

Here's the resprite work I've got so far

Any art advice for merging the mouth into the frilly bits at the bottom?

[maiden phoenix]

I wonder, if I set an ability extra to "{C:attention}something", will it write the whole thing or apply the color change? Unless there's a better way to achieve this?

[random sleet]

itll write it out

[frosty dock]

you can add a colours field to loc_def iirc

[maiden phoenix]

The thing is I don't want the color change on a specific variable state

[frosty dock]

you can ref it in loc text like {V:1} but you'd need to know before hand where the color has to be

[crisp coral]

alright chat place your bets will this work first try

[frosty dock]

no

[crisp coral]

correct

:programming:

i forgot to return t anyway

lmao

[frosty dock]

whenever i see nodes[1] spam, the answer is no

[random sleet]

alternatively you can make two variables, one that goes in attention tags and one that doesnt, and whichever one youre not using is nil

and put them up next to each other without a space between

[frosty dock]

might have to be an empty string instead

[random sleet]

its inelegant but it works. like a sledgehammer is technically a skeleton key.

oh true

[maiden phoenix]

I'll give the {V:1} a try first

Thanks

[shell timber]

oh wack

simplified joker triggers on common oddities

[random sleet]

LOL

[frosty dock]

unrelated, but how should center key prefixes be enforced? required component in the header next to the other stuff or something else?

[random sleet]

wait does baseball card work on uncommoddities

[frosty dock]

it could be set in code technically, since it doesn't need to be known pre-load

[shell timber]

it might?

[random sleet]

optional header thing, if omitted use first N letters of modid?

[shell timber]

it doesn't check the card's set so

[frosty dock]

init functions run after mods load, so that's no concern

[frosty dock]

hm yeah that works ig

[random sleet]

i swear if i have to take ownership of baseball....

[crisp coral]

wait why do i need to do nodes shit

[random sleet]

idk you're the one doing it???

[shell timber]

hm. i should make some tarots/planets/spectrals/etc.

[crisp coral]

yeah idk either but

[frosty dock]

now what is a valid key prefix?

lowercase letters only?

[random sleet]

i currently use Thac_ but i can adapt

[crisp coral]

is þ a valid prefix

[random sleet]

one of us one of us
theyre so fun :))

[ionic isle]

are oddities easier to create than tarots/planets/spectrals?

[frosty dock]

i think convention should be lowercase

imo digits are fine, other chars idk

[random sleet]

about the same (because its the same)

only major difference is that they have rarities

[crisp coral]

if i can't use þ as a prefix i'm quitting modding

/j

[shell timber]

just got yorick twice in a row

[random sleet]

pog?

[ionic isle]

alr

[frosty dock]

uhh

[ionic isle]

might switch to making oddities then

[shell timber]

also offering is so fun

[ionic isle]

ikr

[frosty dock]

fine, it won't be more restricted than mod ids are just to be consistent

[crisp coral]

thorn wins

[frosty dock]

since it can default to the start of mod id

and you could just abuse that either way

[zealous glen]

Can I use α as a prefix? Can I use 🙂 as a prefix?

[shell timber]

can you?

[crisp coral]

idk

fuck around and find out

[frosty dock]

uh... it will be annoying when you ever want to reference that object by key, but sure

[shell timber]

yay!!

[crisp coral]

autumn did joker emoji its fineeeeee

[shell timber]

emoji card type

[crisp coral]

🃏

[random sleet]

oh yeah i did do that huh

debug console still crashes on unicode tho

[crisp coral]

buy a new debug console

[ionic isle]

that could be interesting

[zealous glen]

Can’t I do var.α?

[ionic isle]

there are a lot of emojis though but its definitely an interesting idea

[zealous glen]

I can in Python and Julia :P

[frosty dock]

how would we like this for init functions?

function SMODS.current_mod:init()
    
end

[random sleet]

i like that a lot

[crisp coral]

how did this work

holy shit

[frosty dock]

yeah you can, just from a perspective of actually typing that

[mellow crag]

Niiice

[shell timber]

pretty fun run, last joker was ms paint

(the nine of diamonds has +120 chips)

[crisp coral]

okay i need to do the from run_info stuff

[narrow pollen]

👁️

[crisp coral]

but basically i'm just adding a tab that lists modifiers applied to run

[narrow pollen]

nice

[frosty dock]

mod path literally just becomes self.path btw

[crisp coral]

victory

[shell timber]

comet randomly upgraded 4oak twice but it just came in clutch

thanks comet!

[zealous glen]

For the Python and Julia environments I tend to write in, I can type \alpha and press tab. Otherwise I can memorize the alt+numpad codes like I did for “—“ and “…”

[whole sun]

Does the dev channel also include art?

[crisp coral]

okay i think i need to create a separate function that lists out modifiers but that's fine

[zealous glen]

Let’s find out

[shell timber]

also i love buyselling money oddities

[zealous glen]

May I offer you a buy selling mod

[crisp coral]

oh that sure is a madness

[random sleet]

mindflayer madness?

[shell timber]

no it's funnier when it does nothing

[whole sun]

planning on it being a Jimbothulu

[zealous glen]

But it buysells jonklers

[random sleet]

(its dark and my phone is dying hhhh)
looks cool tho

[shell timber]

anyways, mods work on 1.0.1e with the same lovely dll

[whole sun]

Thanks

[crisp coral]

yeah no changes to love2d

[random sleet]

isnt it better to use them?

[shell timber]

buy using i mean

from shop

[random sleet]

ohhh right
still need to implement that behavior in packs

[frosty dock]

a

[random sleet]

localization support? nice
guess thats +1 to procrastination paying off haha

[frosty dock]

xd

[shell timber]

hm. joker borders

[gaunt thistle]

gnostic did you ask me to crush someone's balls

I have a vague memory of seeing that notification

might've been a dream

[random sleet]

was someone else but that did happen

[golden lake]

meth do you know where savefiles are stored on linux perhaps

[crisp coral]

hi that was me

[gaunt thistle]

thanks

it was funny

@odd dock knock em over the head and give them the lovely treatment

[whole sun]

What tools do I need to open a Lua file?

or is it just notepad?

[maiden phoenix]

Vscode is recommended, along with a lua extension.

[zealous glen]

I recommend a text editor for programming like Vscode, SublimeText, Notepad++, etc.

[gaunt thistle]

please use at minimum something like notepad++

[crisp coral]

why can't i figure out the logic for this

guh

[zealous glen]

Are there people who program in MSword?

[whole sun]

I've used VSCode before so I'll give that a go

[shell timber]

there's other editors but vsc is beginner friendly enough

[calm nova]

any help?

ill add or take away a end but it tries to close different lines

[crisp coral]

i was in the middle of implementing modifiers tab but electricity decided to die for two seconds

[calm nova]

oof

[crisp coral]

line 769 extra end
line 770 missing end

[golden lake]

@calm nova you got an answer

[frosty dock]

1.0.1e really gonna mess with steamodded even more huh

[random sleet]

hows that

[crisp coral]

how so

[frosty dock]

now all modded jokers can't be perishable

[golden lake]

wha

[crisp coral]

oh

[random sleet]

OH

[crisp coral]

lmao

[golden lake]

how

[random sleet]

perishable_compat

[crisp coral]

well

0.9.9

[frosty dock]

you think I would throw another param into that mess?

[crisp coral]

yes

bandaid fix

go

[random sleet]

tablecalll .....

idek if thats a real term

[frosty dock]

nil, nil, nil, nil, nil, nil

💀

[crisp coral]

oops! all nils

[random sleet]

just make it default to true

bandaidiest of bandaid fixes

[frosty dock]

I'll put an API-unsupported default value if I do release 0.9.9 ever

[random sleet]

real talk tho im so happy perishable_compat is real

[zealous glen]

Maybe a param dictionary?

[zealous glen]

Then at least the function inputs becomes more compact

[crisp coral]

aure doing god's work

[frosty dock]

I'm one step ahead of you there, the question is just to what extent I want to bother dealing with legacy code

[random sleet]

Real API!

i should make oddityapi look more like that

[frosty dock]

I mean I'll make myself go through making a consumable type api

[random sleet]

oddities have rarities im pretty sure i still need to special case them

[zealous glen]

Blessed balatraure gaming

[whole sun]

Ceremonial bowl from Ramen Art. Thoughts?

[zealous glen]

Can there be a token rarity for card objects (that maybe don’t show up in the collection)?

[frosty dock]

so hidden rarities?

[zealous glen]

I guess. I just want effects that create objects that can’t be obtained elsewhere

Like the Milk my Cow Joker makes

[frosty dock]

so basically a card type that has no collection associated with it-?

[zealous glen]

Not necessarily, because I could have Jokers create token Jokers, token Consumables, maybe token Packs, etc.

[random sleet]

rarity api....

[zealous glen]

Or Consumables that create those

[frosty dock]

so just generally an option to hide cards from the collection and pools

[random sleet]

that would be based

[zealous glen]

I suppose just that works. Pools tend to be easier since you can set the yes/no keys

[frosty dock]

collection is linked to pools i think, so that shouldn't be too hard to achieve

[crisp coral]

i love writing 50 lines of untested balatro ui code at a time

[random sleet]

so one ui table?

[frosty dock]

half a ui table

[calm nova]

thank you

[crisp coral]

ping reply

[golden lake]

debugplus is great

about to speed up creation of balatrostuck tenfold

[random sleet]

you're shell¢ome

[zealous glen]

||Peixes||core (Homestuck spoilers)

Why does the C overlap the spoiler bar

[mellow crag]

Ooh!

Looks really good

[random sleet]

feder jumpscare
how goes the handpages insanity

[crisp coral]

why are you

like this

[calm nova]

im confused lol

[mellow crag]

I went to visit my extended family

[random sleet]

oh fair

[crisp coral]

okay i quit i don't think you need to see your applied rules

[mellow crag]

Want me to lend my hand?

[frosty dock]

squashing boilerplate code is fun ngl

[crisp coral]

yknow what sure

i'll throw my spaghetti code to you in dms

[golden lake]

oh god doing testing an i ran into the funny

[hardy basin]

I still have no idea what “do not debug source code” means

[sleek notch]

attachign a debugger to the source code, I guess

[hardy basin]

if that’s what it means then why not write that

Like the plain reading i get from that is “do not fix any bugs” or even “do not try to understand the source code” but if it’s meant to be the latter then how are you supposed to make mods

I kind of don’t like that one of the few rules there are is extremely ambiguous

Especially given that depending on what “debug” is supposed to mean it could impact a wide category of mods

[crisp coral]

don't worry none of us know either

go ahead, buy a joker

[random sleet]

curse of the blind

[crisp coral]

TRUE

might make this only affect shop and boosters

[random sleet]

curse of the labyrinth when....

[crisp coral]

6 blinds per ante

[random sleet]

lets joe
unironically ante curses would go hard

[mellow sable]

I think it’s along the lines of if you find a bug in the game code you shouldn’t try and discuss the internals and try and fix it here

[shell timber]

hm

[maiden phoenix]

Are you doing wiki work?

[shell timber]

do you want to?

[crisp coral]

colors are a bit

hm

[shell timber]

yeah

[maiden phoenix]

I'm just wondering

[crisp coral]

also moods lmao

[hardy basin]

Okay but people did that with nan seeds and it’s apparently fine

[maiden phoenix]

"Sometimes I feel orang, sometimes I feel geen"

[hardy basin]

Like if bugfix mods are banned why not just… say that

[crisp coral]

wait

that's the fucking mouth moods cover

[shell timber]

it is

colours are a bit off

am fixing

[crisp coral]

killing you with hammers

[shell timber]

mouth moods has the most iconic cover so i did that

[golden lake]

good news everyone, balatrostuck is almost ready for beta release

(jokers only)

[random sleet]

this is supposed to be good news?/j

[golden lake]

i will need to consult the alchemist wizard to get aspects and zodiacs to work

[crisp coral]

oh no

[golden lake]

@random sleet do you want an early access

i can invite you to the GH before i open it for public

[random sleet]

not specifically i have enough bugs that are my own fault

[golden lake]

i meant moreso for playtesting

than debugging

[mellow sable]

NAN bug is more of a mechanic explanation, I haven’t talked about how to fix it (even though I know a way to)

Something like a QoL mod that has bug fixes should be good too

It’s just like, we shouldn’t be using this chat to point and laugh at some funny bug that’s caused by a typo in the code

[crisp coral]

curse of the blind

[golden lake]

omg like in isaac

[gaunt thistle]

everything atm, planning to change this next update

[hardy basin]

I think you explicitly did in response to a message i sent (though tbf that was in the context of me already knowing where and why it happened)

[crisp coral]

now i make the exact same modifier but for consumables

killing you

[gaunt thistle]

who?

[mellow sable]

Oh yeah I did lol

[shell timber]

slight tweak to the colours, orange might be a bit saturated

[sleek notch]

Moods or noods

[gaunt thistle]

[shell timber]

moods

[hardy basin]

yeah i’m not trying to make fun of the bug. rng code is easy to get wrong and it doesn’t meaningfully affect the game that much it’s just something i think about probably more than i should

[mellow crag]

back home

[golden lake]

hello feder

also is steamodded gonna retire classic injector in favor of lovely then?

[mellow sable]

nah you’re good

Making an improved RNG system is very different than if you had just, say, joined the chat and starting criticizing the internals of the current one (which, yes, I agree has its flaws)

[mellow crag]

also hmmmmm.

[crisp coral]

it gone

🦀

[shell timber]

hypercompressed text

also shit it's 2024.

[golden lake]

yeah it is

[shell timber]

wtf

[crisp coral]

lmao??

[zealous glen]

Rules say not to debug the code tho

[mellow sable]

Yeah, that might be more on the line than I thought

[gaunt thistle]

I would definitely ask thunk directly rather than theorizing what that rule pertains to

[crisp coral]

oh my god what have i done

[mellow crag]

Do you know if you can get a UI node based on a specific ID?

[shell timber]

anyways what should the mouth moods joker do

[golden lake]

adds orange mult and teal chips perhaps

[shell timber]

hm

[crisp coral]

if it's a Moveable then you can use get_UIE_by_ID

[mellow crag]

how do I know if its moveable?

[crisp coral]

comedy

[shell timber]

face down oddities

[crisp coral]

if an object node has it

[shell timber]

at autumn you should make it so oddities can specify a face down sprite

[mellow crag]

hey, i can add it to the object

[shell timber]

also probably gonna call it "mashup album" or something

[mellow crag]

and then how do I get it? and can i get its nodes?

[crisp coral]

moveable object is like

a dynamic uibox

[mellow crag]

oh cool

wait how do i specify its id?

[mellow crag]

do you have an example of adding hte moveable?

[crisp coral]

oh ew discord doesn't like formatting that

you add a node of G.UIT.O (object node used to add moveables)

[shell timber]

hm. what do the mixtapes do

[mellow crag]

like this?

[crisp coral]

you must add it to a separate object node

[mellow crag]

oh

[crisp coral]

i believe

[mellow crag]

so i can just sneak in a little object node and then traverse upwards?

[crisp coral]

yea prob

[mellow crag]

so like this

and then i can traverse upwards? how so?

[crisp coral]

wait traverse upwards

i don't think so

[mellow crag]

then i can encapsulate the entire thing in a node object probably

[crisp coral]

unless get_UIE_by_id returns the entire uibox

but i think it just returns that specific node

[mellow crag]

no but it has to be in a root

aaaaa

[crisp coral]

pain

[mellow crag]

like this maybe

[shell timber]

kind of a combination of ortalab and bunco's mixtape and cassette

[mellow crag]

umm...

[shell timber]

yay!!!

[crisp coral]

no more poker

everybody go home

[mellow crag]

so apperantly you cannot place it inside the node object

[maiden phoenix]

Me when I win with a poker hand

[shell timber]

playing just stone should get you the null hand

[golden lake]

Balatrostuck is starting to clarify 2 gamebreaking builds

you have the Vriska build that just completely wipes the floor with RNG by making all RNG succeed and/or pay off big time

and you have the Dave build that introduces deterministic effects you can always predict and control to a great degree

just made a system that guarantees you can get Death every single goddamn round

[shell timber]

trying to fix the freaky shader

[mellow crag]

i dont wanna do UI anymore

I have no idea what to do

[crisp coral]

you must suffer... like i have...

[shell timber]

hm this is pretty freaky ngl

[mellow crag]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[shell timber]

awesome

[crisp coral]

win

[odd dock]

feder are you good with ui or just fast at trial & error?

[mellow crag]

option 2

XD

[shell timber]

freaky jokers now make a vine boom sound when they spawn

[candid cloak]

Is there a way to check discard size?

[mellow crag]

https://gyazo.com/97b66587b91c6dd0c85731a9ac96cc67.mp4

[crisp coral]

VICTORY

[mellow crag]

not yet

i need to move the tab

[crisp coral]

now we move the page button to the correct node

[mellow crag]

i have no idea how to do that XD

[zealous glen]

Do you mean like number of cards discarded?

[candid cloak]

Yes

We're creating a card that only actives if you discard 5 cards at once

[zealous glen]

I imagine you can see how Burning Joker checks the hand among cards discarded and see if it helps

There’s also Faceless Joker

Checking for three discarded faces

[bitter sand]

one word. fantastic

[golden lake]

balatro mod devs adding 10 pages of hands

Skeet Spectrum when

or Spectrumblaze

Spectrumblaze House

also as for Dogs and Cats

[bitter sand]

wt- i don't understand

too much brain in here for me

[shell timber]

flush spectrumblaze house

[golden lake]

how would a Flush Spectrum work

they're kind of opposing

[hardy basin]

tbh i would ask thunk but idk the right way to do that

[shell timber]

4 wild cards + something else

[hardy basin]

Like that’s what i would have done in the first place but i want to let the man have his peace etc

[golden lake]

Flush Spectrumblaze House sounds so cursed

[hardy basin]

i’d be happy to pull it if that’s over the line

[zealous glen]

Hmmm any celestial bodies named after cats and dogs?

Canis major?

[odd dock]

flush spectrum straightblaze house...
(ortalab reverse shortcut lets you use pairs in straights so that + four fingers)

[crisp coral]

chat how we thinking about this for a showdown

[odd dock]

interesting

[night pagoda]

Flush spectrum straighrblaze house with dogs and cats inside

[crisp coral]

just fucking cripples your base values

[golden lake]

oh god

what would even a Flush Spectrum Straightblaze House score

[zealous glen]

We need Wildcard Stones

[odd dock]

all of it

[golden lake]

cursed. love it

[hardy basin]

any suggestions on how to at least raise the issue

[odd dock]

like this @

i do wonder how much he dislikes pings, but i'll probably just ask if i see him around

[golden lake]

alternatively via the proxy of a moderator

like, asking a mod "what did thunk mean by this" might be good

[hardy basin]

yeah

[odd dock]

would they really know that?

[golden lake]

its more so a proxy

[hardy basin]

I mean my assumption is no, but they would know the best way to ask thunk

[odd dock]

fair enough

[crisp coral]

this forced me to make a lovely script

how lovely

@gaunt thistle hey lovely nerd, how does ordering work here

i'd like the stuff to be triggered after steamodded's

[tepid crow]

this seems to be the reason? #🕹・game-discussion message

Please - don't discuss the game code/bugs I have a handle on it. I don't want to have debugging in this discord. I appreciate the bug/glitch reports

which would boil down to "don't include source code when reporting bugs"

but that's just my interpretation

[mellow crag]

https://gyazo.com/c5420153cb9b644342c3d2369f27ac72.mp4

fully done!

[slow ocean]

so real

[frosty dock]

dope

flushblaze housin' it

[crisp coral]

REAL

[mellow crag]

SHIT WAIT WRONG IMAGE

[river fern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1131691975301668945/1198541514528260136/ezgif-1-e7280fe37f.gif

[golden lake]

btw feder how would you make a joker effect with no jokers present because joker_main is kind of not working for me

[bitter sand]

are perishable, rental and pinned modded ? 'cause i never saw them

[hot jetty]

were u able to use it? like where did u put ur mods?

[shell timber]

perishable and rental are 1.0.1, pinned is from challenges

[hallow forge]

it said legacy, so I didn't

[hot jetty]

but u can install it normally on mac, just dont know where to put the mods

[crisp coral]

perishable and rental are from the experimental build, pinned is from that one ceremonial dagger challenge

[bitter sand]

okay thx

[hallow forge]

it works?

[broken vine]

i would very much hope this joker has like a 1/1000 chance to just randomly have a "SOMEBODY" graphic flash underneath it whenever its in use

[mellow crag]

this is so perfect

I'm in love

[bitter sand]

this is so ||fucking|| perfect

[mellow crag]

true!!!!

[golden lake]

60 Hands when?

[bitter sand]

the answer is probably yes

[loud pumice]

Is there anywhere I can find documentation on modding for balatro? I'm wanting to make some more jokers but am having trouble figuring out exactly what's going on just by looking at other peoples code

[random sleet]

👀 lets joe?

[bitter sand]

i'm trying to make a suit and i though about crown what do you think guys ?

[mellow crag]

What mod adds an additional voucher to the shop?

or is that a vanilla thing?

[bitter sand]

i think it's vanilla but i'm not sure

[unkempt thicket]

Suits https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1232902086191087769

[random sleet]

theres a tag that does that

[mellow crag]

oh?

[random sleet]

yea Voucher Tag

[mellow crag]

oh yes

Voucher Tag

[random sleet]

silly feder

do the pages work? :o

[mellow crag]

look up

https://gyazo.com/c5420153cb9b644342c3d2369f27ac72.mp4

[random sleet]

oh sick

[river fern]

600 ranks, 600 suits, 600 hands

[random sleet]

i just woke up sry

[mellow crag]

all now XD

[random sleet]

only thing id say is the page buttons position should probably remain the same

(parity with vanilla ui)

flushblaze five my beloved....

[silent sinew]

please make it a toggle everything could still be very useful

[hallow forge]

may i know what you did, I can't figure it out

[random sleet]

i wonder if i can make the example hands show a joker, for example in the case of a "straight blaze" i would want to show pareidolia since theres no valid hand to show otherwise

[mellow crag]

is there a mod that adds another voucher slot?

[gaunt thistle]

maybe alphabetic? no clue lol

shouldn't be hard to make a priority val in the patch file

[random sleet]

i think thats already a thing right?

smods has one listed anyway

[silent sinew]

i think i'm gonna try adding some more custom sounds to jokicide today

still haven't checked out the sound api update but it should be really useful

[whole sun]

Do I need permission to use Jimbo's name in my mod?

[broken vine]

Jimbo is canon so it's fair game

[golden lake]

sunday do you want to beta test balatrostuck

im rolling it out to some people who are fairly active in the balatrostuck thread to see what their thoughts on it are before I do a full release

[silent sinew]

damn is it already that close to being finished?

[mellow crag]

umm...

how do I add only one XD

[unkempt thicket]

vouched

[broken vine]

i'm in for the insanity, sure

[golden lake]

perfect, dm me

[honest tartan]

How do you add a custom color to be used in the loc_txt? Like {C:pink} for example?

[loud pumice]

Guys I am very dumb, is there any documentation anywhere?

[odd dock]

could i beta test? 🥺

[golden lake]

yeah!!

dm me

[honest tartan]

Figured it out, thanks Codex Arcanum 😎

[silent sinew]

i think i implemented the bleached effect wrong

should editions be applied before or after the joker effect i forget

oh nvm its before

i'm gonna try using the actual edition effect function but i wouldnt be surprised if that doesnt work for xmult < 1

oh nvm it does!

i actually need to make a custom sound for bleached triggering because i forgot edition xmult has a different sound than joker xmult

[hoary sand]

is this for codex?

[silent sinew]

and then i need to test it on playing cards too

[mellow crag]

hand API

[wintry swallow]

is there api for creating a card type (like steel cards, glass cards, that kinda thing)

[hoary sand]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1231184565444415628

[wintry swallow]

thanks

[frosty dock]

I'm currently trying to figure out inheritance without any native implementation of classes which has been fun

[hoary sand]

?

[wintry swallow]

im trying to move my mod from jellymod and its honestly going pretty well

[hoary sand]

i think the engine has an inheritance system

[frosty dock]

right there's Object:extend

I even looked at that, should have thought of using it, not just replicating it

[silent sinew]

time to try and somehow recreate the foil sound

[hoary sand]

what do you have to do with it

[frosty dock]

basically I want a parent SMODS.Center class to host any subordinate card types like jokers and consumables to reduce boilerplate

[royal ether]

morning chat room

[slow ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209506360987877408/1230405211764297738/Good_Morning.gif

[silent sinew]

i cant get it

its definitely not just a regular sine wave but idk what it is

[slow ocean]

oh worm?

[slow ocean]

what are you trying to recreate it?

[silent sinew]

yeah

[hoary sand]

why?

[slow ocean]

im assuming first one is the original

[silent sinew]

and i cant just sample the original because the harmonies are different for each chord

[silent sinew]

so i can make a variant

[silent sinew]

yea

[slow ocean]

sounds eq'd

eq'd or some how fades out a bit at the end

second one has a wee bit long of a sustained tone

[hoary sand]

what do you want the variant to sound like

[silent sinew]

i want it to descend instead of ascend

there's also that weird ringy sound on the final note

that's definitely not a sine

[hoary sand]

wait where is the ringing coming from

at the end of your clip

it's not in the oggs

[silent sinew]

maybe i'm not using the right word for it

[hoary sand]

no like i hear what you're talking about

[silent sinew]

the last note just has a weird "punch"

[royal ether]

yo feder may i use the idea for having a separate page for modded consumable sets in balamods consumable api