⚙・modding-general

[turbid heart]

idk

[hard plank]

even tho some people said it's not vanilla

[turbid heart]

diamonds maybe. pumpkin!

[full lagoon]

Eh I thought either hearts or clubs

[tardy sigil]

i would tend to agree

[limpid lake]

of course it's not vanilla, it's a mod :v

[turbid heart]

no no n

trying to make your mod vanilla is bad

becaue balatro is bad

thats why you make it better thn vanilla

• tay

[hard plank]

i mean

[tardy sigil]

i know youre joking and yet i still hate you i cant explain it

[hard plank]

i think having you play Scrabble instead is better than fixing you to just poker

[turbid heart]

im not entirely joking. there are flaws in balatro just like in every other game

[tardy sigil]

yeah but its not bad

[turbid heart]

holding yourself to the standards of vanilla excessively is just putting localthunk on a pedestal

yeah its not bad

i think using vanilla for convention and straying from it when necessary to make something interesting is good

like how All in Jest has custom legendary backgrounds

one of these is objectively more visually interesting

[tardy sigil]

thats hardly branching away from vanilla though like some on

[turbid heart]

its not vanilla though

[woven crag]

george is in shambles

[turbid heart]

some people branch too far from vanilla and make something bad

its not binary

ultimately its just up to knowing what you're doing

which just comes with failing

[hard plank]

i branched to far from vanilla

[turbid heart]

whats ur mod

ok im on the wiki

[formal orchid]

play my mod

[turbid heart]

I think a lot of these descriptions for effects are clunky

and i dont like them

but i dont think the effects are necessarily bad

not a big fan of these

[hollow vessel]

The what

[turbid heart]

@hard plank I like to ask myself 'how does this Joker make me play differently? What decisions do I make differently because of this joker?'

A lot of these just seem to be 'keep doign what you're doing and gets better'

this is one of the reasons i fuck with campfire

[normal hollow]

i love these

[dapper root]

trying to use immolate seed searcher, and it just ends early after it says "building program", how do i fix this?

[turbid heart]

My problem is more like.

What is interesting about '+Mult, after an amount of rounds, becomes times mult at an arbitrary number'

[hard plank]

i do think the ghastling is a bit broken

[turbid heart]

the interactions with popcorn and ice cream (chicken jockey is solely based on getting another joker at random)

[hard plank]

maybe i should remove the mult

[turbid heart]

are just not fun imo

[hard plank]

i mean

chicken jockeys are meant to be funny

[turbid heart]

It's a funny joke, yeah, but that doesn't make it fun to play with

[woven crag]

this cryptids me

like way too many cryptid jokers are this

[turbid heart]

I have the same problem with Cryptid

where there's a lot of genuinely interesting content

and then it's bogged down by jokes that aren't meant to be fun to play

but are meant to be fun to make

[woven crag]

and also theres cryptposting which is just the same thing but infinitely worse

[hard plank]

i haven't added jokers in months lol

[woven crag]

its just "its shit so its funny so its actually good"

and thats the whole mod basically

[turbid heart]

yup

cryptid glorpshit

[normal hollow]

the only interesting mod is balatro goes kino

[hard plank]

i got a better idea actually

[woven crag]

cryptid without filler garbage.. could you imagine that

3_bomb

[turbid heart]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1443744403243012236

this is cool

[hard plank]

chicken jockey renews all food jokers when they expire and lasts 5 charges

[turbid heart]

shimmer bucket and turret are interesting

[wanton rapids]

2...

[woven crag]

its like some Cryptid The Second

[frigid furnace]

Cryptid 2 is like size 2 fish

[turbid heart]

that IS interesting, but it also relies on food jokers

what if it was just cards being destroyed creates a copy of them with 5 charges?

[hard plank]

and I'll keep it that way

[woven crag]

❌

something will happen

[turbid heart]

then it would be more generally applicable

[frigid furnace]

O yea? Well

[hard plank]

i think there can be more food jokers

[turbid heart]

Likethis

[frigid furnace]

Oh wait I already asked for a character from a random file nvm

[turbid heart]

this is good

this is a cryptid joker

[hard plank]

i might make a food update

[turbid heart]

and its actually extremely interesting

maybe a bit unbalanced, but it has a fun concept

this could be interesting if it reset when you played a different type of poker hand

wasted potential man

[woven crag]

do you want a random word

[frigid furnace]

:O yes

[woven crag]

Cryptid

troll~1

[hard plank]

i already did some rebalancing on my mod a while back

[turbid heart]

anyway chat

[frigid furnace]

Falls on knees and sobs and also breaks kneecaps

[forest knoll]

it's peak

[turbid heart]

Super lesbian Animal RPG facecards in all in jest

go play all in jest. i made nevernamed play slarpg and then make these.

[forest knoll]

it's so peak

[turbid heart]

its beautiful and awesome

wonderful

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1357543332602970212

[hard plank]

is this yuri

[turbid heart]

yea

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2124380/Super_Lesbian_Animal_RPG/

Steam

Super Lesbian Animal RPG

Melody Amaranth recently came to two important realizations about herself. One: she's deeply in love with her best friend, Allison. (The feeling was mutual.) And two: if Allison has her heart set on being an adventurer, then maybe Melody can join her. As a healer.

It all seemed perfect. And then things got weird.…

Price

$14.99

Recommendations

1409

[hard plank]

also i lowk need more guest artists in my mod

[turbid heart]

Super Lesbian Animal RPG by Bobby Schroeder

[hard plank]

also just wanted to say that the highlights of my mod aren't the jokers

[turbid heart]

unfortunately the highlights of your mod dont matter if there's stuff that isnt fun to play with in it

your mod iso nly as good as the weakest link

that's the case for every mod, mine included, i think

[hard plank]

i mean

fair point but you wouldn't pick some of these up anyway in those runs in particular

or many of the existing jokers in vanilla

[karmic compass]

holy shit are you me

genuinely beat for beat my entire philosophy

[cloud willow]

i tried this
its really broken

[karmic compass]

except you have credibility so people care about your opinions

thank you for finally giving me someone who shares my vision

[turbid heart]

eh nobody knows who i am really. im friends with Nevernamed, that's my only sticking point

I made Morne but nobody really knows what that is lol

Thank you though

[karmic compass]

that's one more people who i can claim im friend with than me

[turbid heart]

some of the jokers that i've coded

[karmic compass]

oo

hold on i getta show you some of mine and this is when you hate me

[turbid heart]

LOL

[cloud willow]

i love face down shenangains

[cloud willow]

i got one that makes all cards have a 1 in7 chance to be face down, but facedown cards are treated as wilds and give +7 mult

[karmic compass]

wow im so mundane in comparison

[turbid heart]

there are a lot of insane jokers in this mod but i like to think they're insane in a way that is interesting

[karmic compass]

yall got cool concept and shit and mine is just jimbo facing the other way

[turbid heart]

I think this is a perfectly good rendition of the same cool idea

blind joker is just a joker in a blindfold lol

i cnat claim all the credit some of my friends contributed to hepling make the mod and come up with ideas

[karmic compass]

i like this one this one is funny because it appears normal, but once you think about it then you realise it's wack

[turbid heart]

this is interesting, ive seen the same idea with Kilroy in all in jest but a better starting line is cool

however

[karmic compass]

the shop synergy joker

[turbid heart]

i do think it just falls into 'buy, sell, pick up again'

which im not that big of a fan of

[karmic compass]

yeah i do have a couple of funny haha bit cards

[turbid heart]

rng being the factor for how good it is, and not just rng, but obscured rng

isnt that much of a pull

[karmic compass]

but like in the sense of this is a ridiculous idea but mechanically balanced

well

eh

i do have to look into how to fiddle with rarity cuz i do want to make it more common the more times you sold it

what about this guy

it's a joker that encourages a build that play many types of hands

as a counter to most builds where you get an engine and spam the same few cards over and over

[turbid heart]

IIt's kind of wordy honestly

but also isn't this just following a pattern

i mean thats not inherently bad actually

but i do think that the actual effectiveness of this is very low

there's 13 hands

2^13 is 8192

in the ideal scenario

which requires you to play all thirteen hands sequentially without any mistakes

[karmic compass]

yeah it does have the common problem of it being something you need to commit early and not something you can pivot to like in ante 6

[turbid heart]

well no its more like

you just cant make this work because its inherently doomed

you cant deckfix towards it

because you need tobe able to make every hand type in a consistent pattern

[cloud willow]

ooh I had a funny one like that

[turbid heart]

2^5 is only 32 chips

even if you do 5 hands in a row

you end up with 32 chips

[cloud willow]

it gained x0.25 mult every time it appeared in shop

[turbid heart]

and then it becomes what, 3^5 chips is 243 which isnt terrible

wait no

its not 3^5

it's 3*2^4

48 chips

[manic summit]

[river mango]

[turbid heart]

even 2^7 is just 128 chips

and when there's so much on the line for 'mistakes'

the tiers being so nebulous is bad too

but i guess that isn't totally hard to understand

the problem i have is that this inherently plateuas extremly early on

what kind of build can you be making five of a kinds/four of a kinds and straights consistently

I can maybe see being able to do something like going ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE FIVE FIVE TWO TWO THREE THREE FOUR FOUR

So you can theoretically make any combination

but it just doesnt add up to being worth it in the end i think

oh wait

WAIT

[cloud willow]

this one is kinda funny

[turbid heart]

i didnt realize

it doesnt change if you play the same hand

that changes things

i think the effect is too complicated

either way

[karmic compass]

haha yeah that's true

quickly shoves other cards back into closet

[turbid heart]

i dont think theres anything wrong with making something that isnt perfect at the start

i make plenty of stuff that i think is awful

and then i go and change it

[karmic compass]

there's like 5 jokers in my mod that when combined has the effect and effort of 300 jokers

so much for "complicate"

[cloud willow]

the oddly specific joker

[turbid heart]

i mean if its a synergy that requires 5 jokers

thats fine i dont see a problem w it

[turbid heart]

why is Wild lowercase

[karmic compass]

oh no i dont mean that

[cloud willow]

frick is it supposed to be uppercase

[karmic compass]

i mean like they are

uh

a lot

[turbid heart]

shouldn't it be Wild[Orange] Ace of Spades[Spades]

[fair thistle]

Meow

[turbid heart]

or Wild[Orange] Ace[Orange] of Spades[Spades]

[karmic compass]

mrow :3

mow mrrp meow :3

[turbid heart]

i dont ermember if there's an enhancement color

[karmic compass]

hiii :3

there's not i think

[cloud willow]

there is but its really weird

[karmic compass]

oh

[cloud willow]

its a gradient

its used in the win screen iirc

[turbid heart]

oh yeah i remember that

[karmic compass]

oh

[turbid heart]

i ended up not using it

cus its ugly for text on card descriptions imo

[karmic compass]

yeah descriptions just use attention i think

[turbid heart]

ok i gotta go because ive got to eat food. havent eaten food today.

yum

[cloud willow]

oh yeah I should change it to match idol

[karmic compass]

tay have you played this little indie game called blue pricne

[turbid heart]

see you guys later

[karmic compass]

aw rip

[cloud willow]

PEAK MENTIONED

HOLY CRAP

[karmic compass]

have a good eat

[turbid heart]

i have heard a lot about it my freinds quite like it

but i havent played

yum yum

[karmic compass]

ok then i cannot show you two of my jokers

have a good eat

[cloud willow]

please show me

[karmic compass]

it's just this

[cloud willow]

[karmic compass]

sorry to disappoint

[cloud willow]

please tell me it crashes your game

[karmic compass]

i thought about it but wa slike thats too mean

[cloud willow]

fair

[karmic compass]

but if you mean crashing the game unintentionally by bad code then yea maybe it does

[cloud willow]

it would be really funny though

I mean ending your run would be more faithful but thast not a good idea

[karmic compass]

btw ||the number of stars in the spiral matches the number of words, and bright stars mark when a new sentence is formed and the effect changes||

[fair thistle]

Woohoo another one-off bit to add to the pile of "Never Use Again" :3c

[fair thistle]

Oh lmao

[karmic compass]

cryptic crossword joker

Cryptic Crossword
Gain +15 Mult when the answer is scored
(Currently +0 Mult)

"Even eternal in sight required hand (?)"

[cloud willow]

already know what this was going to be lmao

[fair thistle]

stupid esoteric joker that asks questions about other mods for bonuses fuckin

[karmic compass]

ive always wanted to do a trivia joker

like multiple choiced question where you pick by playing 1 card and its suit is the choice you picked

[fair thistle]

"The UT/DR mod is notorious for having several questionable practices. What is NOT a practice that this mod executed?
a. Converting letter cases incorrectly
b. Sharing the mod link via Twitter/X
c. Requiring Talisman/Amulet for a single Joker
d. Stealing assets"

some shit like that

[karmic compass]

Cryptic Crossword
Gain +15 Mult when the answer is scored
(Currently +0 Mult)

"Call event inside scoring requirement (? ?)"

[waxen furnace]

I'm really glad I have debug mods installed so I can actually tell if the game is frozen or if its just a really long event que

[karmic compass]

mult hasnt gone up because i havent seen anyone solve it

[fair thistle]

screw just suits why not just give them some sorta indicator for what letter they are
You make an a, b, c, d, and e sticker that can only be spawned by Trivia Joker or some shit

Meowmeowmeow

Probably just a visual indicator or something if you wanted to be a bit less esoteric but I'm busy with something so I'm probably spitting straight ass

[karmic compass]

Cryptic Crossword
Gain +15 Mult when the answer is scored
(Currently +0 Mult)

"All I'm asking for is 20 crumpled notes (? ?)"

<@&1133519078540185692> kill

kill

yippee

damn no cryptics enjoyer in chat i see :(

[fair thistle]

wubba dubba dub is that true

pose for the fans

[karmic compass]

this is why this card will never be made because balatro players dont do cryptics

and definitely not because you'd need to write like 300 clues

[fair thistle]

they don't do cryptics
they do cryptids and post about their run every frame

[waxen furnace]

I have no idea what word is supposed to got there anyway

[karmic compass]

check out some cryptics tutorial it's a quirky lil art

[fair thistle]

maybe

[karmic compass]

it's not for everyone but if you are the type to get it it tickles some nice part of your brain

like minutecryptic thats a good starter

if you like daily games

"Even eternal in sight required hand (?)" -> || eTeRnAl (EVEN letter of Eternal) in SIGHT -> S [TRA] IGHT -> STRAIGHT, the required hand||

[hollow vessel]

yo quick question
every time i open balatro my mouse just hides and i cant see it in my screen, is there a mod that adds a custom cursor so i can see it

or straight up a way to fix this issue

[pulsar mango]

one of my jokers has in_pool = false but is still showing up in shops

[woven crag]

in_pool must be a function

also #💻・modding-dev

[pulsar mango]

oh crap my bad

[opal vortex]

what are some good mods like pokermon? i like the potential for high scores while its not super easy like in cryptid

[pulsar mango]

i normally dont leave there so i forgot to switch

also thanks

[gilded comet]

i have no idea how i got here

but i guess that's my gameplan lmao

[limpid lake]

||stone card?||

[gilded comet]

man i love this skip tag

i have no clue what i'm gonna make tho

[lost bolt]

You could try all in jest if thats what youre looking for

[gilded comet]

this is just funny lmao

[opal vortex]

im just looking for something to add on to base balatro really, friend said bunco and paperback was good?

[lost bolt]

Yeah those are also good mods

[opal vortex]

ill add all in jest aswell

[gilded comet]

i really like all the stuff it adds

it's some legit interesting and high quality stuff

[lost bolt]

i really like all the jest it adds

[gilded comet]

i really like the sleeves mod

it might be a bit too strong but it adds some extra layer of creativity

plus it gives an incentive to play higher stakes aside from completion

since the more advanced decks need higher stakes to unlock the sleeves

[opal vortex]

what is it about?

[gilded comet]

so you kinda naturally get better cause you gotta keep climbing

[lost bolt]

right, i should do my cardsleevesplus mod one of these days

[gilded comet]

it lets you add a gimmick from any deck that supports it on top of your normal deck

[opal vortex]

ahhhh sick

[woven crag]

you also get unique effect for combining a deck with its own sleeve

which is quite neat

[opal vortex]

yea sounds like fun

[gilded comet]

so smt like this would be the nebula deck + you start with a crystal ball and 2 fools

[woven crag]

most mods also add their own sleeves for their added decks too

[gilded comet]

it's my favorite combo of the decks i played so far

[opal vortex]

super cool

okay added to the list

[plush jewel]

also i think if you do like plasma deck plasma sleeve it does something unique

[gilded comet]

oh damn really? i gotta test that sometime then

[woven crag]

yeah, most of them are pretty fun imo

[gilded comet]

the blue and red ones are funny

it's like, objectivly worse than having one or the other i think

[woven crag]

yeah true

though 2 extra hands is very good so it does make sense there

[lost bolt]

basically its just "what if you could unlock sleeves that carry the essence of the deck but a different effect (sometimes the combined effect, sometimes not)

[gilded comet]

oooh, idk if i have that unlock yet so i gotta work for that

[woven crag]

extra $2 every round which makes a big difference

[gilded comet]

ooooh right, it's an added effect on top of the base one

[plush jewel]

is there any good like console mod

i saw one but it had an ai thumbnail and like. no

[gilded comet]

for some reason i forgot that the menu only shows the sleeve effect

[woven crag]

debugplus?

[gilded comet]

that's very powerful then

[plush jewel]

that could work

[woven crag]

erratic deck+sleeve is also a very fun one imo

havent played it but it seems very silly

[gilded comet]

that sounds really fun, though making something more complex that also has cross mod compatibility sound rooough

would it just be sleeves?

like idk what it could be for the deck

in terms of theming i mean

[lost bolt]

just sleeves yeah

[woven crag]

sleeves are also pretty fun design wise for mod development

also gives me an idea, would be funny to have a sleeve tag to go with the deck tag if cardsleeves is installed

[lost bolt]

tbh i've kinda made myself a hell of my own creation since not only do i have to come up with a deck's effect, i have to make a version of it as a voucher and as a sleeve with a similar but different effect

[gilded comet]

that's bruuutal

but 7 joker slots 👀

magic and nebula are super fun tho

gives you the T2 voucher as well

i can see the magic one giving like, the soul early on and snowballing super quickly

[oblique storm]

sprites i've made for my mod so far 👀

[woven crag]

it is done

sleeve tag is real

[opal vortex]

what about qol mods? like the one that counts score before u play hand and the one which allows u to drag over cards for fast hand select, what are they called

[woven crag]

the first one was fantom's preview but thats no longer updated, now theres divvy's preview but i dont think that gets updated either

they only work with vanilla content normally anyway, so they arent that useful with a lot of content mods

[opal vortex]

ahh okay

[hollow vessel]

what yall talking about

[woven crag]

the latter is handy, it also adds a bunch of additional quality of life features and a huge amount of keybind options

as in

the mod is called handy

for drag to select

[opal vortex]

awesome

[fair thistle]

tbf I never found hand calculations useful outside of seeing people play multiplayer
if i really need to see what I might score I just play a hand and savescum if I do it wrong

[woven crag]

i mean its included with multiplayer for a reason i think

i also recommend galdur if youre playing with a lot of mods, it overhauls the run setup menu so you dont hit arrows a billion times to go through the decks

its also compatible with cardsleeves

[grim iris]

very.

id be clurbs right now but im instead spades because i very much misclicked and am blind

[fair thistle]

i am john spades

[grim iris]

y'know what mod i really miss?

[woven crag]

jokerdisplay is pretty good too since itll show what effect jokers will have for your selected hand in a little box under them

[grim iris]

Almanac. Jen's Almanac.

[fair thistle]

I FUCKING KNEW IT

[grim iris]

i seriously miss it.

[woven crag]

youll never guess what mod came back

like

weeks ago

[fair thistle]

that mod already got revived and literally has me in it

[grim iris]

what

wait what

[woven crag]

also its called polterworx now

[grim iris]

WAHTA

ITS BACK!?!?!?!?!?!?!???

[fair thistle]

i left the server because i didn't like how serious people were there

[woven crag]

it is in fact back

[grim iris]

:p

yipee

[woven crag]

its also decoupling from cryptid for next update

[grim iris]

the funny thing is that I have the old almanac

0.0.8

[woven crag]

which i think is interesting and probably a good choice considering the cryptid happenings rn

[grim iris]

XD

so yeah

No i wasnt laughing at your message.

[woven crag]

anyway how can i make this about cryptid 2

have you heard that cryptid 2 is becoming a thing

[fair thistle]

-# I mean I kinda enjoy the current update but I couldn't see who needs the entirety of Everything Upgrade Tree in their balatro

[grim iris]

wait theres a second one

[woven crag]

in development

[cloud willow]

man I love my arrangement

[woven crag]

cryptid (current) is kind of just finished because at this point the only added content youll actually use has to be at least as strong as the strongest jokers in the mod to be relevant

and also the codebase is old as fuck

[grim iris]

yea

[woven crag]

so its being remade fully

[grim iris]

yay

[woven crag]

theres a big announcement about it in the cryptid discord

[grim iris]

i have old almanac lol

[fair thistle]

you already said that

[woven crag]

i remember the days of people trying to play newer mods with ancient steamodded and almanac installed

coming in with crash logs

[hollow vessel]

hope they keep the ost, i love cryptid soundtrack

[fair thistle]

just wait for the novelty to wear off 😼

anyways enough stupid shitposting uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i need to stop being lazy and go type in more effects

[woven crag]

ive been meaning to ask what the idea is with the soundtrack tbh

[grim iris]

well ill be damned

[woven crag]

i should probably do that

[grim iris]

its a thing

almanacation

386 lol

[fair thistle]

i saw a video a bit back where they overlayed every vanilla and cryptid soundtrack on top of each other and it was fire

y'know after being away from this server for a while I forget that this place has so many cryptid kiddies

like genuinely

[woven crag]

glitchkat try not to glaze the fuck out of current cryptid for no reason challenge

[grim iris]

oh no

ohhhh no

[woven crag]

and misunderstand literally every single point of cryptid 2 completely

[hollow vessel]

hope they just leave it be, i have balatro in the background vibing with the menu music rn, is really good
if they do change it, rip i guess

[fair thistle]

I mean ideally if they remade the music they would add an option to use the old music

Either that or you could like
Watch a ust/ost

[hollow vessel]

yeah ig

[cloud willow]

glat mentioned

[fair thistle]

I don't really know what's going on with stuff like that; the novelty faded long ago, because of how wonky it was to even exist with; for me, at least

[cloud willow]

[granite forum]

glitch hates current cryptid?????

?????????

[cloud willow]

thoughts on how it turned out (audio on)

[woven crag]

he literally was complaining about cryptid 2 and saying current cryptid is fine and it should be left alone to me

in this chat

[granite forum]

yeah cryptid 2 is stupid

i agree

[hollow vessel]

spilled oil in the street
looks nice

[granite forum]

cryptid is fine

but i also hate cryptid

[cloud willow]

the audio not the looks 😭

[woven crag]

pick a side bro

[hollow vessel]

love hate relationship

[woven crag]

is cryptid bad or good

do you want cryptid to be bad or good

[hollow vessel]

oh sorry i have discord on mute

[cloud willow]

oh lol

[granite forum]

i want cryptid to be good

[woven crag]

yes

[granite forum]

cryptid is bad

[woven crag]

and what is cryptid 2 trying to acheive

[granite forum]

cryptid 2 will be bad

[fair thistle]

cryptid players when you bring up the idea of making the mod cleaner [ you couldn't possibly nerf their goat ]

[woven crag]

how do you know this

[granite forum]

the way they are doing it is bad

[granite forum]

no math

[woven crag]

what is the way they are doing it

[granite forum]

trust

[woven crag]

how is it bad

[granite forum]

georgetherat try not to glaze mathisfun level impossible

[cloud willow]

moderate balance, removing filler ideas

[woven crag]

cryptid fans when they have to not worship mathisfun like an infallible god

[cloud willow]

better sprites

[hollow vessel]

is there even any public content of cryptid 2, i've only seen people talking about it and thats all

[woven crag]

and when they have to not treat ruby like the antichrist

[granite forum]

ew i'm not a cryptid fan

[cloud willow]

theres like 2 sprites posted

[hollow vessel]

oh

[woven crag]

it is not a public mod yet

[granite forum]

i have a screenshot but i'm like 90% sure i cannot show it legally

[mint spindle]

i sense my mention

[woven crag]

death

now

[hollow vessel]

i dont care that much dont worry, im just wondering if they have teased anything relevant

[mint spindle]

anyway i’m filming for academics so no talking

just uh

hi

ok bye

[hollow vessel]

h

b

[fair thistle]

o

max

you can boo me now

[woven crag]

anyway

i would say cryptid 2 so far is Good actually

[mint spindle]

also do people genuinely call me glat 😭

[woven crag]

and not Bad

[granite forum]

i think it just has to do with new cryptid jokers that is the standard for balance

like

[mint spindle]

yeah agreed

[woven crag]

there was already a standard for balance but people are fucking stupid and cant follow that

scalae shouldnt exist

[granite forum]

yes

[woven crag]

double scale should be exotic but mystic misclick is lame as fuck

[granite forum]

old cryptid i know is unbalanced

but like 50% of new stuff dev team tries for some reason?

[woven crag]

"they keep making decisions nobody wants" denies decisions that everybody wants

[mint spindle]

scalae is an exotic so it makes sense

[woven crag]

no it doesnt

scalae is literally just you win if you get any scaling

[granite forum]

all exotics are win if you get

[woven crag]

iterum was meant to be the middle of the road exotic

[granite forum]

except like

none of them

[woven crag]

is scalae anywhere close to iterum balance wise

[fair thistle]

the reason why they forced the exotics to be so boring is because gateway would instantly kill you if the exotics didn't make you win forever on their own

[granite forum]

redeo maybe

[formal orchid]

play my mod

[woven crag]

scalae is like genuinely polterworx level bullshit

[hollow vessel]

i have no clue how this dude works so i never used it

[granite forum]

bro

[woven crag]

so is crustulum

[granite forum]

crustulum becomes even more reroll sim

[hollow vessel]

we making up words now

[woven crag]

except even jen knows crustulum is too fucking broken

like

thats not a good sign

[granite forum]

double scale is degree 2 (x^2)
as it scales it will increase in degree of polynomial (x^3, x^4 etc)

[woven crag]

exotic does not mean you get to make literally anything with no regard for balance and it does not mean you get to win forever with no effort

[fair thistle]

-# to be completely fair with you, Jen considered making Busted Buffoons an incompatibility basically just because one of the jokers could possibly spawn Kosmos

[granite forum]

actually double scale is a bit worse than degree 2 i think

i forget

[mint spindle]

i just think the issue is exemplified when the jokers are of lower rarity

[oblique storm]

mythril... i made mythril.. 4 ores down, 8 to go

[woven crag]

okay tbh i dont fw emergency chips either

but most of the other jokers are still fine?

like idk what the issue is

[hollow vessel]

what

[woven crag]

math

open up desmos and put in those things

thats roughly how they scale

[granite forum]

i think it's just the downward trend of quality in ideas

idk

[fair thistle]

the main issue with the Obvious Trash is that a lot of the content just kinda waters down the good ideas

[woven crag]

well yeah thats to be expected when every idea needs to be stupidly fucking overpowered to EVER be used

[hollow vessel]

i never learnt how math is translated between english and spanish so i have no idea lul

[granite forum]

it's not even that i like math i just dislike current devs

[fair thistle]

The boss blinds are stupid, the decks just win immediately

[mint spindle]

i do agree with this

[woven crag]

the exotics win immediately too

half the epics win immediately

membership card wins immediately

[mint spindle]

the rental or the landlord or whatever might be my least favorite boss blind of all time

[mint spindle]

membership card is obvious

[woven crag]

membership card is also fucking lame

it could do anything more interesting

[fair thistle]

like if you're gonna make a mod that has a second order of magnitude
I get that big number mods are so cool and they bring a new level of power to the table

For the love of god just up the win ante or some shit

[woven crag]

also oil lamp is win immediately too

kill value manipulation. please

oil lamp should at LEAST be epic

[fair thistle]

Make the stuff usable

[mint spindle]

oil lamp is interesting as a concept and then immediately you win in practice

[fair thistle]

if you just win infinitely forever there's no goddamn reason to continue

[woven crag]

haha well good thing its getting taken out back and brutally bludgeoned with hammers

[fair thistle]

like at least add an ante where you need an exotic to continue

[hollow vessel]

oil lamp is fun to just mess with the game, but is just a free win

[woven crag]

and then left out to rot in a dumpster

[fair thistle]

everything in cryptid is fun to 'just mess with the game' until you hit the calc screen for the 7 billionth time

[hollow vessel]

if you have any way to duplicate another oil lamp or if you're playing glowing deck is just even more automatic

[woven crag]

also

gateway is fucking dogshit

in every way possible

i love exotics being required to be insta carries because gateway kills ALL your jokers

effarcire and energia are only bad because of this

theyre perfectly fine concepts on their own imo

[fair thistle]

a lot of the stuff in cryptid is just completely redundant because they don't account for exotic scaling whatsoever
so whenever you win it doesn't even feel like you have to do anything
i get that some mods definitely make the game easier in regards, and you can definitely have fun while not usually losing unless you're stupid, but in the grand scheme of things it's dogshit

[woven crag]

also cryptid is just like

[fair thistle]

when you're playing normal Balatro or other mods with stuff like this it's either a reward for getting very lucky or it's a reward for trying to play the game

[woven crag]

really bad for the modding ecosystem

Cryptid being popular means a lot of mods will be played alongside it and get completely overshadowed if they arent as broken

[fair thistle]

to be fair the main reason why i whine about cryptid sometimes is just because people here are posting about it constantly

[frigid furnace]

I have no qualms with this convo but I feel like the same points have been repeated over and over for the past few months

[past lava]

ecosystem?

[woven crag]

Like

Other mods that get developed

[frigid furnace]

It would be cool to have a comprehensive doc of Cryptid criticisms, especially to prove that a rework is absolutely needed

[woven crag]

And exist

[hollow vessel]

nothing ever happends

[fair thistle]

that's fair but i don't know what else i would talk about for cryptid since at the moment it is literally stagnant

[vast anchor]

The players will 100% play the old version

[frigid furnace]

nothing ever happens mfers when I do their mom

[woven crag]

Well yeah the old repo is left up for a reason

[hollow vessel]

😦

[fair thistle]

cite your sources

[woven crag]

If people really want their slop they can cultivate it themselves now

[frigid furnace]

LET THE EVIL OF THEIR OWN
LIPS CONSUME THEM

THEN I SHALL BEGIN AGAIN,
WITH MY WORD AS LAW

[vast anchor]

From what i've seen
Alot of communities
Modding and vanilla / software communities

[woven crag]

Now im going to make cryptid2 as polished as possible to spite george

[fair thistle]

but what about this SHINY and BRAND NEW cryptid with More Keys To Jingle

[woven crag]

Because apparently the entire dev team is the antichrist

For some reason

[fair thistle]

Who wouldn't play a mod because silly ol John Balatro or whoever made a YouTube on it

[hollow vessel]

that one cryptid extencion that adds like 40 exotics

[vast anchor]

The keysss,,,
-# I don't like cryptid that much
-# It fucks too much with other mods

[woven crag]

ascensio?

[forest knoll]

ascensio 😭

[woven crag]

Not a huge fan

A lot of the jokers are very samey

[frigid furnace]

Nothing ever happens

[woven crag]

Also even thats becoming standalone now

Like 99% of cryptid addons i can think of are becoming standalone

[fair thistle]

^^chips Mr. Bones is coming for you

[hollow vessel]

ascensio has good art imo

[woven crag]

And the ones that arent are abandoned or extremely niche

[woven crag]

This is true

Love the art

The actual jokers not so much

[fair thistle]

-# or made by people that would probably get banned if they stated their age /silly

[frigid furnace]

My best works were probably in Ascensio, except Aeon Cavendish because I will not half-ass art dedicated to Cavendish themself

[hollow vessel]

i personally dont like the existence of the sinful squad and all the hand type jokers having a exotic variant

[woven crag]

yeah a lot of them should be merged

[fair thistle]

the aikoyori drawn pfp goes wild

[woven crag]

but for some reason only gros michel and cavendish are

[fair thistle]

why play cryptid when you can just play stakes redux

play my every

[woven crag]

top 10 mods to play while waiting for cryptid 2

[vast anchor]

Some mods have awesome art aaa,,,
Makes me remember the communities of various games that makes lots of music,,,

Tboi (How many soundtracks again?)
Grace (⚠️)
Ultrakill (Plus custom levels)
Ect...

[forest knoll]

top of the list is https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1488725820628271104

[frigid furnace]

6. Ovibivioln

[mint spindle]

true…

[mint spindle]

ascensio (when it disconnects from cryptid)

[frigid furnace]

I sincerely apologize for reply ping I got excited

[fair thistle]

number 2
bad apple joker
this joker allows you to watch the entire bad apple music video in a single Joker
with exhilarating gameplay (slightly changing the deck shuffle order) and amazing graphics, you wouldn't want to miss this amazing experience

[hollow vessel]

the roblox game grace? thats the only one i know

[mint spindle]

😭

[vast anchor]

Yes but
⚠️

[mint spindle]

what does this mean

[hollow vessel]

⚠️
doombringer is watching

[fair thistle]

i quit Roblox like a month ago the only thing I'll play is like block tales and even then

[vast anchor]

Recent drama that shouldn't be talked about

[hollow vessel]

true

[fair thistle]

It's not just Bad-- it's Apple.

[mint spindle]

only thing i’ve genuinely played on roblox in the past like year is arsenal

still play it occasionally

[vast anchor]

I played only grace and nullscape
That's it :3
-# I even stole was given my friend's account

[woven crag]

1. Balatro odyssey
2. Too many jokers 2
3. Steamodded 0.9.8 (manual injection)
4. CRYPTID 2 (real)
5. Entropy
6. Google translated balatro by me
7. Gros balatro by me
8. Potassium RemaKe
9. Ingame mod manager
10. Lust

[frigid furnace]

I'd play more arsenal if my internet connection wasn't consistently shit

[fair thistle]

Oh boy I love playing a shooter game I hope I don't get gunned down the frame I leave spawn

[vast anchor]

D:

[hollow vessel]

same, i only talk in this server and nullscape server

[fair thistle]

NOT BALATRO ODYSSEY

vro

[woven crag]

We do a little jesting

[mint spindle]

i mean i’m really good at it

[fair thistle]

im not :3c

[frigid furnace]

sorry potassium remake cancelled because scoring parameters api suck ass
(/j im on break instead)

[mint spindle]

i was something like number 31 on the leaderboard… and then stopped

[vast anchor]

Nullscape is peak

Zenith tower too
Makes me remember fractal block world
-# ||It was an april's fools update||

[fair thistle]

bad apple joker, matador
balatro plus

[mint spindle]

balalalalala

[vast anchor]

Blatro

[hollow vessel]

i never played zen tower, i know it exist but i never bothered in playing it

[fair thistle]

im adding a Starspace Plus joker to my mod

"Trusts the process when a Flush is played"

[vast anchor]

It was an april fool update ;-;
I think it has been removed ;-;

[woven crag]

11. Score16

[hollow vessel]

oh dang

[fair thistle]

number 17 on the list is a hypothetical Scott Pilgrim mod

[frigid furnace]

shit.......

[vast anchor]

Idk
Didn't play any games for a month
Not on pc

[fair thistle]

Girllll you ate

[frigid furnace]

mfer be like: I HATE SCORING PARAMETERS (RE:Potassium)
2 seconds later: me and my bestie :3 (Score16)

[vast anchor]

:3?

[fair thistle]

rolled a 2

[mint spindle]

i read this as “grill”

[fair thistle]

bwomp

[rain orbit]

Wghar

[hollow vessel]

question is entropy playeable without cryptid or is it another addon

[woven crag]

Anyway let us cook cryptid 2 while you play hit mod balatro odyssey for fun (torture)

[frigid furnace]

Upd8 smods

[woven crag]

It has been playable without cryptid for a long while

[fair thistle]

-# for people that don't know uhhh

[woven crag]

Most content is also available without it

[mint spindle]

play bundles of fun 😡😡😡

[rain orbit]

I downloaded the latest release on imm

[woven crag]

Besides epics and exotics

[fair thistle]

-# the sprites were not made by humans :3c

[frigid furnace]

Oh

[forest knoll]

nothing about balatro odyssey was made by a human lol

[woven crag]

The ideas werent either

[fair thistle]

-# and the thunderstore page was also not made by humans

[rain orbit]

Did I do something wrong

[woven crag]

The readme also isnt

Yeah

[hollow vessel]

i found the excistence of entropy like 2 weeks ago

so i had no idea

[woven crag]

Balatro odyssey also makes you play 100 antes to win

[fair thistle]

1000 jokers 😭

[mint spindle]

what even is balatro odyssey

[frigid furnace]

Ok im gonna go drive now brb (-$10000000000000)

[mint spindle]

never heard of it until now 😭

[woven crag]

Really old ai slop mod

[hollow vessel]

what about that mod you were talking about before, the one that got renamed

[mint spindle]

interesting

how sloppius

[rain orbit]

Ok turns out the specific one there is listed under the 'older' section in imm

[woven crag]

1000 jokers, 100 tarots, planets and spectrals, 200 vouchers and 67 (no im not joking) hand types

[mint spindle]

[fair thistle]

-# fun fact! i fucking hate ai
-# had a bit of a meltdown over a chatgpt generated school assignment and when the principal sat me down to talk he was talking about some "it's the future" when I deadass saw the prompt for the paper

[woven crag]

also theres just duplicates of vanilla tarots and planets

[fair thistle]

-# fucking like 6 words

[hollow vessel]

finally a true vanilla friendly mod

[mint spindle]

1000 jokers 💔

[woven crag]

and theres multiple planets that do the same

theres literally a tarot called "the fool 2"

[hollow vessel]

wonder what it does

what a mistery

[mint spindle]

maybe excusable if it was actually like specific to anything but guess not 💔💔

[woven crag]

there is a tarot card called "the despair" which sets you back an ante. The name is a reference to the fact that it makes you play another ante of the mod

[fair thistle]

starspace plus will be my new ExoticEpicSuperAwesome joker it goes x1.02 mult 200 times

[mint spindle]

hey thats me

[woven crag]

my new mod will have a joker called multiplication mark

and addition andrew

[mint spindle]

insert speed face

[fair thistle]

girl don't even
y'know what she could've done
get people to research music of history their goddamn self and use something human made as an example

[woven crag]

and assignment albert

[mint spindle]

uhh ok

[fair thistle]

but noooooo, they had to tell the kids to use an ai music website for an assignment

[hollow vessel]

is POLTERWORX a good mod

[mint spindle]

🔥

[mint spindle]

it’s been getting better to my knowledge

kinda all i can say

[fair thistle]

calculus cameron

[fair thistle]

bigger*

[mint spindle]

and better or no?

[hollow vessel]

ill take this as vagueposting

[mint spindle]

i can’t tell they banned me

[woven crag]

subtraction steve

[fair thistle]

im half joking but I don't think it's very much better considering they're adding an entire Roblox upgrade tree game as metaprog upgrades to specific jokers

[rain orbit]

Yeah so I fucked everything up

[fair thistle]

and adding an entire logic gate system

[mint spindle]

at least new content but kinda dumb

[woven crag]

division david

[lost bolt]

XNOR

Here's how i'll divide you david

Number 1: 0

[mint spindle]

i mean idk concept could be kinda cool, at least the upgrade tree or whatever

[hollow vessel]

what
like a skilltree?

[fair thistle]

tbf i didn't really know what I had in store for me but at the same time I feel kinda bummed having the update right after the one that adds Astro Starspace just go from A Bit Crazy to Overstimulation Hell

[woven crag]

My name is david
Dad, i want some ice cream
David, that is my name

[fair thistle]

search up "everything upgrade tree" on Roblox
yeah it takes like 3 currencies from that for symbols

they themselves said that they were "trying to push the limits of the game" instead of try and make the mod more fun to try and understand

to be fair every novelty project is kinda like this but

[mint spindle]

i think that’s about the entire idea of the mod to be fair

whether it’s good or bad is up to you

i don’t think it particularly is

[fair thistle]

eh, when there's like 50 mechanics that are barely touched up on whatsoever

[mint spindle]

that’s true

[fair thistle]

it feels less like a whole new game and more just

radiation

[mint spindle]

adding shit

[hollow vessel]

like hot potato?

[mint spindle]

true

ish

[lost bolt]

da worx or da nothing for today

[fair thistle]

XNOR XNOR XNOR

[mint spindle]

i mean if you’ve never played polterworx then try it out but don’t expect amazingness

[cloud willow]

you need spectrallib

[lost bolt]

I have played the worx

[mint spindle]

i’ve taken a couple small ideas from the mod as inspiration but in general it isn’t my uh cup of tea

[oblique storm]

since apparently balatro oddesey is a thing

i'm going to try and salvage some of the jokers to use for my mod

[lost bolt]

Here's how ill calculate you david

[fair thistle]

polterworx is basically if you took cryptid's problems and turned it up to eleven
including the fanbase to a small extent

[fair thistle]

??????????

[oblique storm]

basically

remaster them

[mint spindle]

“small”

[oblique storm]

so they're no longer AI Slop

[mint spindle]

the fanbase is a bit insane

well not insane but just

saturated

[hollow vessel]

fr? i have never heard about it

[mint spindle]

some ideas might be interesting or useful to transform into something better

[rain orbit]

How do I update lovely again I forgor

[hollow vessel]

tung

[oblique storm]

you win. you win i can't come up with a more clever response 😭

[lean dune]

🅰️

[fair thistle]

there's probably like a billion more mod concepts that would be more interesting

[oblique storm]

ik

[rain orbit]

_ _

[mint spindle]

😭

[fair thistle]

they should make a seventh beat games mod
imagine rhythm doctor and adofai content

[lost bolt]

Replace the dll file

[fair thistle]

this is crusty as fuck let me find a higher quality version real quick

[mint spindle]

well obviously but maybe they can incorporate some of the ideas into a separate mod or something

[mint spindle]

why would anybody want a higher-quality version

[rain orbit]

How do I get a new ddl file

[fair thistle]

again, it's made by ai

[fair thistle]

fair enough

[lost bolt]

Download it from the github

[mint spindle]

ai can (albeit rarely) have at least acceptably interesting content

[fair thistle]

no it can't

[rain orbit]

Oh right I forgot lovely has the ddl file there

[fair thistle]

it can steal interesting content but it cannot think these ideas

you can, though

be better

[mint spindle]

you know what i mean

i’m specifically talking about balatro odyssey anyway

[fair thistle]

fuck balatro odyssey what about mario odyssey

cappy joker

[oblique storm]

holy shit youre right

[mint spindle]

100%’ed the game when i was like 9 lol

good game

[fair thistle]

nintendo mod and call the mod "Copyright Strike"

[mint spindle]

true

[oblique storm]

true

[hollow vessel]

balatro odyssey isnt about mario odyssey?

[mint spindle]

and then go for gold by somehow getting it cease-and-desisted

[fair thistle]

no it's just slop

literally

[oblique storm]

IT'S ALL AI SLOP OMFG

[hollow vessel]

why im quoting bro

[hollow vessel]

lmao what

[fair thistle]

its a mod made predominantly with ai generated text and images on thunderstore

[hollow vessel]

gem alert?!?! each hand you play you kill a tortoise

obliterate 50L of water per joker

[hollow vessel]

found it, this looks so ass

who made this

[oblique storm]

i dunno

wait

someone named "fenomelini"

orr atleast, that's their git name

[hollow vessel]

never heard of them

[fair thistle]

turning this into a joker

[rain orbit]

Yipee I fixed my game

[oblique storm]

i'm going to finish up Naquadah and then i'll start working on some jokers for Wheel of Fortune

[rain orbit]

[cloud willow]

bro's cooked

[oblique storm]

guess what program i use for my mod's art

[cloud willow]

mspaint 🔥

[hard patio]

IbisPaint

[oblique storm]

no

[oblique storm]

no

[rain orbit]

I keep reading ibis paint as ibs paint

[fair thistle]

i cant wait to just be done with ibis paint forever

i might just delete ibispaint off my phone forever at that point

none of the stuff i have saved i actually need that isnt just the joker sheet

[frigid furnace]

the poop paint

[oblique storm]

naquadah is done... halfway done with the mineral cards.......

[jaunty crest]

Balatro just fucking crashes when playing a hand

[cloud willow]

#⚙・modding-support and it would really help if you didn't cut out the most important part of the crash

[jaunty crest]

The platform part?

[cloud willow]

the very top

the reason for the crash

[jaunty crest]

Ahh so something something zodiac

[cloud willow]

yes

also use #⚙・modding-support

[tawdry quest]

what do yall think of this? (found the image on my PC and made it a card)

[leaden vector]

Looks like an eighth note to me

Could make it do something 8 times?

[rain orbit]

Played 8s always score

Or smth

Idk

[tawdry quest]

idk i was basing it off my four elements jokers i made cause i just added lightning ice and plants

this one was for air

[weak nexus]

First time adding mods. In this case, Joker Display.
Instructions say to install Lovely first. In the process of doing that now. Lovely instructions say that any mod files go into %appdata%/Balatro/Mods...

but I don't have a Mods directory inside /Balatro?

[lost bolt]

Just create it

[daring sluice]

launch the game once and it'll be created

[weak nexus]

perfect thx!

[silent thistle]

ok, but why?

[hard plank]

at least +6 mult

[raw skiff]

I have a joker effect
After redeeming a voucher, copy the effects of a random unredeemed voucher, resets when another voucher is redeemed (currently n)

[tawdry quest]

what should this do?

[undone surge]

for some reason, this feels funny to see

[raw skiff]

Fucked up in the crib sippin dr perky

[rain orbit]

Now imagine if you had another +mult joker

[silent thistle]

crazy

[fair thistle]

bruh

[hard plank]

it's opposite day

[rain orbit]

I downloaded the colorblind seals mod and it just doesn't work

Is it possible I have a mod that overrides it or smth

[fair thistle]

???

[drifting slate]

Played it a decent amount without issues but alas

[hard plank]

hop on aikoshen

#1326135270759993364

[hardy brook]

Chat, what are the 7 Undertale Souls of Balatro

[strong obsidian]

...take the Perkeo, you lucky lad. ||All in Jest moment.||

[tawdry quest]

what do yall think of this joker

X10 mult and when boss blind is defeated creates a copy of itself and ignores slot limit

[toxic cloud]

absurdly strong for no reason

[tawdry quest]

idk i figured its ok cuz it can only apear through judjement

[past lava]

WAY too overpowered

[tawdry quest]

i figured its ok cuz it can only apear through judjement

[past lava]

still

i would've done
"X1 Mult, doubles Mult when Blind is selected"

[tawdry quest]

meh i mean britain colonized america why not balatro

[forest knoll]

that's not really how balance works, and imo that just makes the joker feel even worse
legendaries get away with it because you have a dedicated consumable for legendary cards. it's rare and it feels like you deserve the strength for happening upon a soul. putting something this strong in judgement just feels like bullshit for no reason, and even when that's in the player's favor it's not good

[fair thistle]

gng

[past lava]

also, it's spelt judgement

[fair thistle]

x10 mult unconditionally is already way too much

duping with no limit is also too much with sell value

even without

abstract joker

[tawdry quest]

my mod literaly only has jokers with that being the point i cant realy do a consumable like legendaries

[forest knoll]

you literally can tho

[past lava]

you still can

[exotic belfry]

consumables are not very hard

[forest knoll]

everything's documented, vanillaremade has the soul, nothing is stopping you from making it but yourself

[past lava]

pineapple uses jokerforge

[exotic belfry]

[tawdry quest]

when did i say that?

[past lava]

and plus
you can still make a consumable like that with jokerforge

[past lava]

it's kinda obvious

sorry

[tawdry quest]

i mean your right

but the whole point of my mod is that its only jokers

[past lava]

you can make britain a legendary and nerf it

it's not that hard

[forest knoll]

that's a very limiting goal tbh, but at the end of the day it's your mod

[tawdry quest]

the shop weight for it is same as legendary for its rarity

[fair thistle]

i mean, even then usually if you want to make an effect of similar complexity and power to a specific rarity you should just look at an example of the rarity you want the joker to be

from other mods or from vanilla

[tawdry quest]

also theres 38 jokers so far

[fair thistle]

esoteric =/= justified

it's still bumfuck overpowered anyways

[tawdry quest]

ik

[past lava]

there should be a jokerforge user tierlist

[tawdry quest]

i mean theres not to much of a goal for it to be a "balanced" mod

[past lava]

so pretty much polterworx?

wait no

i would say a mix between cryptid and polterworx

[fair thistle]

i understand that you might have different tastes than me but there's a difference between having to work for your power and it being adequality scaled to the time it takes and just slapping a 1/120 chance on it and calling it a day

overpowered means overpowered, not extremely strong

it means its too much, imo

[tawdry quest]

rn itd be a 1/188

or -4 for legendaries ig

so 1/184

idk the odds tbh

with the other jokers from my mod

[past lava]

s - sillyz
a - sillyz
b - sillyz
c - sillyz
d - sillyz
f - not sillyz

[tawdry quest]

although tbh i might make it respect slot limit

[exotic belfry]

What if instead of jokerforge people learned to code

[past lava]

I'm not learning Lua.

[exotic belfry]

Why not? It's not hard

[hard plank]

it's ok you'll be forced to anyway

[exotic belfry]

Plus there's more resources than ever to handhold you in learning

[past lava]

it's out of my skill limit

[past lava]

What.

[tawdry quest]

i know a little bit of lua and i do code some smaller mods myself but i find jokerforge more convieniant

[past lava]

😨

[past lava]

i only know how to code in scratch

[exotic belfry]

I'm not trying to be mean, but having a "skill limit" is very close minded. You won't be able to develop any skills with that mindset

[hard plank]

i thought joker forge 2 shows you the lua code next to the GUI

[exotic belfry]

It will

[past lava]

it does

[exotic belfry]

So you're just choosing to ignore it? 😭

[past lava]

jokerforge two isn't out yet

[tawdry quest]

like i said i know a little bit of lua and i do code some smaller mods myself but i find jokerforge more convieniant

[past lava]

and still, i can't really code complex stuff in scratch.

i'm honestly just avoiding learning lua at this point

[exotic belfry]

👆

[fair thistle]

honestly i want to try my hand at genuinely learning some simple code just so i can get my mod out faster

jokerforge and the likes feel extremely limiting to me and using a bandaid fix for my lack of coding skills is not a choice i want to be making

[exotic belfry]

EXACTLY!!!

Jokerforge is not a solution!!!

I will once again point ya to the Beginner's Guide series. I should probably record the Consumables episode tomorrow

[fair thistle]

you've got to understand, so many people say it's one of the easier coding languages
you've got vscode/vscodium, several programs that make the process a lot easier
tons of people that would be glad to give you pointers

i don't know how to code but i know that i could most likely learn if i really wanted to, and i probably do

once summer starts

[exotic belfry]

yessir