⚙・modding-general

[rain orbit]

"I got a random switch cartridge in the mail covered in blood, I thought nothing of it."

[frigid mica]

Are we still talking about balatro.exe

[river mango]

huh

[frigid mica]

Joker.exe

Like Sonic.exe

But Jimbo Joker

[sleek granite]

the longer you hold onto mint cards the more valuable they are

[manic summit]

chat

[frigid mica]

“Do not get both the Photograph and Hanging Chad, this is my last message”

[rain orbit]

X if he was a different kind of autistic

[frigid mica]

X if he was balatrue

[rain orbit]

Alan becomes chaos the clown

[balmy lily]

hyperrealistic??

[rain orbit]

Paul becomes uhhh the plant

I forgor who the guy who becomes knuckles is but he's probably gonna be something like hanging chad

[frigid mica]

Alan, Paul, David

[rain orbit]

Isn't paul the eggman guy

[blissful stag]

time to work on the actual effects I guess

[rain orbit]

yeah

[blissful stag]

yeah

[rain orbit]

[river mango]

yeah

I think more stickers are required lol

[frigid mica]

yeah

[blissful stag]

im planning to make more

[dusty token]

yeah

[river mango]

omg

[blissful stag]

but thats when I actually make the things that give the special stickers

or the evil jimbos that ill look into later

[river mango]

not the evil jimbos

[sleek granite]

evil jumbos....

[river mango]

damnit

[rain orbit]

Trio of evil jimbos
Rekoj, evil joker, and joker.exe

[winged prism]

Oh god

[rain orbit]

yeah

[river mango]

you fogot jesters

[sleek granite]

+4 mult

[river mango]

+25 chips

[sleek granite]

:3

[blissful stag]

this is gonna be so annoying to look at now that I think about it

well in terms of wording

[river mango]

lmao my sleep will be inhibited by that

[woven orchid]

GUYS

suggest things to https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1472782187093950527 !!!

[fair thistle]

Meow

[limpid lake]

evil rekoj.exe

[rain orbit]

Satsujinki head ahh

[frigid mica]

Photo negative Mickey

[rain orbit]

Photonegative mickey has yellow puke stuff coming out of them when they take their head off

[fair thistle]

i need a cult

when will i become the new cryptid slop

[rain orbit]

Is this good for a red seal counterpart

[manic summit]

fire variable name

[river mango]

lmfao

[rain orbit]

[sleek granite]

teal steal

[blissful stag]

eh

If I knew how particles work i would add them but i think thats doing a bit too much

[frigid mica]

i would too

[rain orbit]

This is how people describe the -mult rekojes

[rain orbit]

Is this good

[unkempt current]

I dunno

[unkempt current]

It's like a more forced blue seal which is fine
You're gonna be putting it on useless cards anyways so it's pretty good

Oh no I just realized something
I have a card in my mod that gives a random seal to a playing card
Imagine if some dude tries to select something valuable and he just gets this

[rain orbit]

It's to be the opposite counterpart of red seal which retriggers, the opposite of retriggering would be to not trigger at all

[unkempt current]

getting debuffed

[rain orbit]

I still want it to be somewhat desirable to have

[sleek granite]

( 👀 🌸 )

[rain orbit]

Hence I made it not score nor trigger any jokers, and from that point on the only way I can make it do stuff is to hold or discard it

[sleek granite]

this is a cool card 👍

[fair thistle]

well you could probably word it better, maybe dry to compress the wording a little bit by debuffing it when it's played?

[rain orbit]

It's not meant to trigger jokers even when held or discarded

Hence debuffing when played would only solve part of the problem

[fair thistle]

debuffed but the seal bypasses debuffs?

-# i mean its not about compressing wording it's also making it more digestible for the player

[rain orbit]

I don't get what's undigestable about it, it does exactly what it says

[fair thistle]

-# just not triggering anything is very very close to debuffing so it could possibly come off as confusing, imo

i had to double take a few times at least

[rain orbit]

Case in point debuffing won't fully accomplish what I want

[fair thistle]

look im not great with complicated seal effects, since they're usually not complex

[rain orbit]

This isn't complex either, it's just one step above in terms of complexity

[fair thistle]

i mean you cant really say that, it's definitely wordy

"it's not complex it's just more complex"

[rain orbit]

Slightly harder than simple does not equal complex

[fair thistle]

i meant more complex but okay

i mean i get that its in a middle ground but i just said im not good with them

not that it's bad

what im trying to say is that im not great with these types of seal effects, since usually i like to go simple or standard, trying to keep the wordiness down
im not saying your effect is bad im just saying that i personally wouldn't do it like that since i try to avoid wordiness in descriptions

[rain orbit]

Then try to come up with a more concise wording that achieves exactly what's described

What I put was the best I could come up with

[fair thistle]

that's not how i do it

im saying that i would make a simpler effect and i'm trying to say that i wouldnt do it like that in response to your retort about me having to simplify the wording

im telling you that im not great with inherently wordy descriptions because i try to avoid them in the first place

[rain orbit]

Since I can't come up with a way to further simplify it then describe it to me

[sleek granite]

"Skip this card when scored"

or when played mayb

[rain orbit]

I aim for vanilla-esc wording unless it's crossmod stuff

[fair thistle]

well that's perfect lmao

my bad

[rain orbit]

Where's the part about not triggering jokers

[fair thistle]

it's getting skipped

[rain orbit]

When scored, not when held in hand or discarded

[sleek granite]

if card does not score, cards that care about it scoring do not care and go honk mimimi

[fair thistle]

Skip this if played or held in hand, instead give -10% blind req when held in hand or some shit

[rain orbit]

That doesn't account for discarding

[fair thistle]

and then like an info box that explains what it means by skip?

this card does not trigger any normal effects

[sleek granite]

is it supposed to

[rain orbit]

That makes it even more complicated than the way I did it

Skipping would need to be a regular mechanic to warrant its own info box

[sleek granite]

i do think just saying "skip this card" is a bit more intuitive than you're giving it credit for

[rain orbit]

I got what you meant by skip but that's just not a vanilla+ way of wording it

At least to me

[sleek granite]

as much as you wouldn't think so from the average speaking user here, most people can learn new information

[rain orbit]

Holeh moleh

[rain orbit]

Oh wait you were talking to him

Whoopsie

[sleek granite]

im surprised there isnt a mod that adds funky ranks

[rain orbit]

There is stuff that adds more ranks, I just don't remember any by name

[fervent vessel]

degeneracy adds a bunch of ranks

[fair thistle]

no, they're talking about the average player

saying that the average player could probably just learn some new wording/minor mechanic

instead of trying to make it look like locathunk himself made it

[rain orbit]

That's kinda like part of the presentation

By the logic that someone can still reason what the effect is in a change of wording also means that they can reason through any difficulty in understanding, whether by trying it out or simply reading it again

[fair thistle]

yeah but usually i find it easier to get it when there's less words

it's just that when you're acting like there is absolutely no way to shorten this description and every time you're just like "it's not vanilla" it's kinda hard to deduce what you actually want besides 'to not do anything'

sorry im tired off my ass

[rain orbit]

It doesn't do shit except give -10% score requirement when held in hand

Even when it's usually supposed to do shit it doesn't

It can still scale things like cloud 9 but it's too much effort to deliberately make it not do that

[fair thistle]

again; I'm not great with more complex seals because usually it's more straight and to the point instead of just overtaking the card and doing its own thing
your concept is most likely good in execution, it's just that im nitpicking because usually seals aren't 4 lines long

[rain orbit]

This was a big waste of time

[fair thistle]

not really no

[sleek granite]

dankranks real 2026

[rain orbit]

Spade one is called a flail

[tardy sigil]

W for Wumbo?

[sleek granite]

its a wand if your spell is "kill"

[rain orbit]

Avada kedavra

[tardy sigil]

W for where the witches at

[fair thistle]

five billion retrigger

[lean dune]

W for 3 wicked witches and their 3 Swiss watches

[sleek granite]

🤔

[river mango]

Those are sick as hell

[fervent vessel]

waoah

[wanton surge]

Epic

[rain orbit]

There should be a corporate ladder joker that revolves around suit levels

Since suit is slang for corpo

[sleek granite]

my suit level display is broken again 😔

[rain orbit]

Holeh moleh

[fair thistle]

I forget that extra ranks don't have to just be boring and give mult

maybe i should do something with that on my own stars rank

[rain orbit]

Someone should do an uno flip-like mechanic but with negative ranks

Like a card that when scored turns the vanilla ranks into negative ranks that way jokers and other stuff dependant on negative ranks can do their stuff

And then you can even switch them back on the same hand if you have 2 of the switching card

[fair thistle]

Didn't one of my friends already do that kinda?

[rain orbit]

I have no idea

[fair thistle]

dungeons and degenerate gamblers

[limber oak]

@wanton surge

[wanton surge]

Meow

[rain orbit]

[wanton surge]

My mod has negative ranks

[hard plank]

hi.

[wanton surge]

-# they take away chips, instead of adding

Haikoyori

[wanton surge]

Me!
-# kinda

Not really

[limber oak]

hikoyori

[rain orbit]

I meant like a special card that turns all cards in the deck into negative ranks

[sleek granite]

my mod has dank ranks theyre dank

so far just jester and wand tho lol

[wanton surge]

Negative ranks are kinda bad tho…
In my mod

[rain orbit]

F for faded

[limber oak]

what do you mean there aint any dank memes

[rain orbit]

H for hydro which be smoked fr

[wanton surge]

There is only really one reason why someone would want to swap the ranks to negative

[fair thistle]

did you just join i tried crediting you in #1487506153309999244 and only your old account would show up

[wanton surge]

Nah

I’ve been here for ages while

I just meowed in your forum :3

[fair thistle]

ahhh, okay
you just werent showing up beforehand

now that you spoke it let me swap the ping around

i'll just edit that big credits list :P

[fair thistle]

oh no. oh nononono

plasma deck YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME

[blissful stag]

would turning effects into a single word then referencing that word as a tooltip be a good idea

for the sake of making the base tooltip not look extremely cluttered

[west hill]

depends on the effect

[blissful stag]

lets say a score this card x times to get rid of negative effect

and the word used for it is fleeting or something

[west hill]

also depends on how many cards you have that use that effect

[blissful stag]

hmm i guess thats true

[west hill]

how does your tooltip look right now?

[blissful stag]

its under a sticker

n i dont wanna look into trying to get multibox work for sticker tooltips

[west hill]

multibox is super easy

[blissful stag]

is there a pre existing mod that has em

[west hill]

change your loctxt into a table of tables, where each internal table is a box

[blissful stag]

irgg yeah it crashes

[fair thistle]

goober spotted

[wanton surge]

Wrong chat whoops

Sent it in modding off topic

[blissful stag]

and even if I could use the multibox for stickers dont they just get condensed since thats how they work as tooltips

[glacial trellis]

Yo gang, is anyone familiar with how sets work? When you make a ConsumableType, does that stuff get added to Centers? Do you need to add anything to make create_card work?

[glacial trellis]

In tooltips the box expands assuming you use the below format instead of newlines
[1] = "First line of text", [2] = "Second line of text"

[blissful stag]

its uhh doin nun

[glacial trellis]

Wait it might be single quotes

[hard plank]

everything gets condensed

[blissful stag]

blechk

[hard plank]

i think there should be a small space separating

[west hill]

yeah, info_queues always get condensed

[blissful stag]

whatever its not that big of a deal

[hard plank]

somehow

[fair thistle]

i forget that some jokers exist

blackboard is so fuckin forgettable istg

[woven crag]

created consumable and object types will have their cards added into a G.P_CENTER_POOLS entry under the set's key, and cards can be created from the set using the set key as the type without needing to do anything else

[glacial trellis]

Brilliant, thank you

[frigid mica]

When you open this booster pack, a vine boom followed by a fahhh will play.

[fair thistle]

i need to do this

[glacial trellis]

Spectacular

[fair thistle]

if you have amulet the "Obviously Overpowered Pack" can show up and it just contains 2 galactics

[frigid mica]

Special thanks to @/sdm_0 for this

[woven crag]

glow up??

[frigid mica]

What was the old one like?

Also what’s stellar? Is that like an archetype rarity?

[median fable]

im genuinly so bad at minesweeper its insane

i forgot whos mod is this but adding minesweeper to it has ruined my life

[formal orchid]

foobar

[median fable]

yuh

[frigid mica]

is this how you define a new colour variable?lua G.C.EPILEPTIC = SMODS.Gradients["busterb_epileptic"]

[long hare]

is that special jack

yeah

[frigid mica]

tatsu, you know how to code, yeah?

[long hare]

actually no
i just have ✨ideas✨

[woven crag]

the old one was just
all consumables and packs are free, creates a negative consumable on blind select

[frigid mica]

oh

i guess it is a glow up

[prisma flume]

can someone send me dragselect

[frigid mica]

🥀

[mellow sail]

how to download jen's almanac?

[wanton surge]

join the server and go to #downloads

[formal orchid]

https://discord.gg/hTrbQRCHj

[reef tangle]

give me your mods rahh

[normal hollow]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1338302514616995892

[reef tangle]

thank you ^~^

[vivid flame]

its back?

since when?

or is it still the archived versions

[formal orchid]

since for a while

but it is back

[toxic cloud]

#1366605767167443006 🥺

[granite forum]

#1446732905391849705
#1398831011340615680

[woven crag]

#1415395671241920592 except i havent released a proper verson in a million years

(like 3 months

i think

[granite forum]

chimes is coughing baby rn

[woven crag]

Like im already approaching 150 jokers on latest commit

[formal orchid]

#1325147180280971294

[fair thistle]

#1487506153309999244

dont mind my pfp

astro died forever

[reef tangle]

i have yo mod rahh

[fair thistle]

trust

[reef tangle]

nooo astro 💔

[formal orchid]

🔥🔥

astro blew up

[fair thistle]

i am his chaos core

[storm forum]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1307810407389593630

[granite forum]

actually play cold beans too

#1431713225237332028

please?

[reef tangle]

ok

[reef tangle]

toga mha real?
-# /silly

[reef tangle]

it says theres no github page for it

[formal orchid]

lies

[granite forum]

https://github.com/Cdrvo/Cold-Beans/tree/main

?

[reef tangle]

oh wait

nvm

[formal orchid]

that link is twice

[storm forum]

...MHA?

[formal orchid]

thats why

smh

[granite forum]

ok it's not double

mb chat

[cloud willow]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1471252195713482833

[reef tangle]

ok if all these mods dont work together then uhhh

idk ill try a different combination i guess

[hard plank]

i have added the worst mechanic known to mankind to my mod

(citation needed)

[reef tangle]

this is why i never update mods

-# /lh

[hard plank]

did i scare you

[reef tangle]

yall be adding some annoying mechanics like the balatro balaler which gives you 0.1x mult every run unless you have 3 jimbos

[cloud willow]

I can guarantee mine works with aiko, carto, and jokerdisplay

[hard plank]

to be fair what i just added is like

quite drastic

[reef tangle]

so it is the balatro balaler then

[cloud willow]

minesweeper

[frigid mica]

hey guys

what's the worst negative effect you can give to a joker?

[toxic arrow]

like worst as in run ending or worst as in design

[frigid mica]

i'm gonna pile them all together and create a joker everyone will hate getting in their run.

[toxic arrow]

joker that just crashes thhe game

[hard plank]

it does not carry over runs

[hard plank]

run ending

[frigid mica]

run ending yea

you will hate me for making this joker

[hard plank]

i guess my mechanic is ass

[cloud willow]

shuffle all cards in all cards areas every hand

idk

[hard plank]

50% chance you die (absurd intrusive thoughts)

[storm forum]

Smelt the Enhancements together.

[hard plank]

it's all kinda gold

except the cyan one

[frigid mica]

how do i make it so that the final chips and mult always end up as 0?

[storm forum]

Well, using what tools I have. 🦐

[cloud willow]

grab the scoring
divide by 10
round, floor, or ceil
mult by 10
set the scoribg

[frigid mica]

xmult = 0

[cloud willow]

destroy all cards

[frigid mica]

me thinks

[cloud willow]

oh
that works iirc

[hard plank]

hmmmm

[sleek granite]

Jester

[toxic arrow]

how do i resize an image without it getting mixels

i nneed to get a 2x sprite but everything i try just makes it look bad

[frigid mica]

is it context.final_scoring_step for when you wanna manipulate your total score or something?

[cloud willow]

what softwsre

[toxic arrow]

literally anything

im trying to find web tools to do it but they all use mixles to do it

[lean dune]

no, it's before totaling score, it's used by effects like plasma deck

[lean dune]

make sure you're setting scaling to nearest neighbor

[cloud willow]

paint works

open your sprite

[toxic arrow]

lifesaver

[cloud willow]

ctrl a and copy the speite

esc to deselect

then resize all to 2x to change the sprite dimensions

[lean dune]

literally anything works, no need for allat

[cloud willow]

ctrl a then delete
paste the new sprite
resize tool 2x again

[lean dune]

Also there's a script somewhere

[cloud willow]

for some reason paint is stupid and blurs the image if you just use the scale tool with nothing seleceted

[toxic arrow]

i have now finished adding my first tag

[lean dune]

then why'd you suggest paint if it's stupid

[cloud willow]

if you use windows your guaranteed to have it

[lean dune]

if you make sprites you likely have something else

[cloud willow]

that's why I asked what software they use

[broken adder]

i messed up

[lean dune]

looks like you're in a bit of a pickle

[cloud willow]

tagslop 🔥

[woven crag]

Have fun opening packs

[formal orchid]

just max out game speed

[broken adder]

how i do that?

[cloud willow]

what mods do u have

[broken adder]

i got these ones

[formal orchid]

handy has these settings

[broken adder]

oh ok

[forest knoll]

install debugplus, hover over a tag, and press ctrl-r

[long hare]

ah, the small S looks like the small S on special aces

[alpine bluff]

i offer oblivion https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1483625092943577279

[granite forum]

HEXACRYONIC????

[manic summit]

60 consumables

[broken adder]

anyone know how to get rid of fps and base event queue in top left?

[cloud willow]

turn off debugplus

[limpid lake]

or turn off that option in debugplus

[sleek granite]

does this big s look like the small s

[frigid mica]

new update for my mod is out

caine is now in my mod

[long hare]

kinda

[sleek granite]

ok im sorry ill delete jesters

[long hare]

nah

its fine

this type of thing happens alot in media, where two ideas are the same/roughly the same

i dont think either of us are going to patent the small s, so it should be fine

[sleek granite]

sorry

[full lagoon]

Tf does the clock do?

[formal orchid]

x2 mult every other hand

[full lagoon]

Cool

[formal orchid]

u should play it fr

#1446732905391849705

[full lagoon]

I got an Xbox sorry I can't

[formal orchid]

rip

[dusky geyser]

anyone got any ideas of what a tyler the creator album joker should do (its a specific album)

[neat sundial]

which one

[dusky geyser]

IGOR

[forest knoll]

🤔🤔🤔

[sleek granite]

man i love white stake

[forest knoll]

(white stake now takes you to the shop after skipping :3)

no, #📜・modding-rules rule 4

[valid finch]

Ok

[elder olive]

wich mod can give the x500 speed?

ty

[forest knoll]

handy

[elder olive]

ty

[rain orbit]

So on white stake in your mod the shop is not skipped when skipping a blind?

[forest knoll]

correct
pink stake is gonna be one of the stakes that can be turned off in the config tho, and if that happens then skip behavior just goes back to vanilla

[west hill]

cant you just put pink stake below white stake and have your custom behaviour there?

[wanton rapids]

you can do that?

[forest knoll]

yea
but also that would ruin the nice rainbow stake gradient i have set up now

[limpid lake]

can you put stakes below white?
... probably

[forest knoll]

you can take ownership of white stake and make it apply other stakes quite easily

[west hill]

this is a good reason you got me there

[ancient sinew]

wait, putting it under white implies it's easier no?

[limpid lake]

yeah
the idea would've been that pink stake enables skip shopping and then white stake disables it

[forest knoll]

ye that was eremel's suggestion

[west hill]

Yeah I think changing white stake to be something easier and then having a custom stake that undoes that change is a bit weird from a user standpoint

[wanton rapids]

how would i force a specific joker to spawn in the shop?

[forest knoll]

idk i like it, but i can see your point

[forest knoll]

during context.create_shop_card, return { shop_create_flags = { the contents of an SMODS.create_card call } }

[wanton rapids]

oh sorry i mean using like debugplus

[forest knoll]

ah

not sure lol

probably just manually eval SMODS.add_card in the console and add it to G.shop_jokers?

[limpid lake]

ban all other cards and reroll? this surely won't lead to dozens of jimbos

well, since this is a joker, you can just ban all other cards in its rarity, then use the shop spawn rate things to stop everything not in its rarity

[forest knoll]

ok my standpoint on this is that it's a stake rework, as long as i'm clear about it in the download/on the config page i think it's fine to alter white stake as well

[west hill]

I think if your pink stake wasn't equivalent to vanilla white stake it would be absolutely fine

[forest knoll]

alright, i'll consider reworking it (again,,,)

[wheat zenith]

Hmm
Is there anywhere where just the vanilla jokers are stored? Or, if I wanted to do that, would I have to do something like getting G.P_CENTER_POOLS.Joker and not G.SMODS.Center (i'm not sure the exact location to search for SMODS.Center, I'll figure it out though)

[normal hollow]

you would have to check for not center.original_mod

also #💻・modding-dev

[wheat zenith]

Oh, sorry! and thank you!

[west hill]

I mean it's also fine to just go ahead with it, it's only my opinion 😛

[forest knoll]

loll
i'll probably move on with it for now but try a different effect if someone else brings it up

[wary rose]

interesting

[sleek granite]

is it though

[wary rose]

yeah it doesnt normally look like that

[sleek granite]

the most interesting thing on that screenshot is your money the rest is just average cryptid run

the hardest part of cryptid is beating ante 8 before the game crashes or takes hours per hand

[wary rose]

im talking about how the scoring box is offset

[sleek granite]

normal cryptid gameplay

[wary rose]

is it really that common

i've never seen that

[wary rose]

money is definitely interesting too 😂😂😂✌️✌️✌️

[frozen vector]

Hello everyone here, out of curiosity, if you gave every stake an amount to scale by (they don't need to be the same, and can be decimal amounts up to 2 digits in (ie; 1.25 would count, but 1.275 would not)), what would you do for them to keep a relatively 'vanilla' amount on blinds?

[river mango]

whoops

[severe nebula]

hey, i'm looking for a mod and i'm not sure if it exists. i'm looking for a mod that adds a 'wild rank' to the game, making a card function as 1 of every rank.

the closest i've found is MadCap which has an infinity rank that does exactly what i want, but the mod comes with a bunch of other stuff that i'm not interest in

there's also X-Card, but that one doesn't allow 2 cards to be the same rank, which is the opposite of what i'm looking for

i just need the infinity rank and nothing else

[storm forum]

General work on quantum ranks is... not exactly done...

[cloud willow]

button

[forest knoll]

use the Banner mod to disable all the content in MadCap apart from the infinity rank

[frozen vector]

Why...

And what can you do with it...?

[cloud willow]

read the deck omg

[cloud willow]

why not

[frozen vector]

Well, yes

But what are the choices?

Like, what effects

[cloud willow]

you can choose what cards, enhancements, seals, etc

vouchers and consumables

[frozen vector]

Ah, so probably watered down what i would've tried with it

Probably for the better lmao

[tall perch]

What would you have tried?

[frozen vector]

I would've done something like making every deck effect from vanilla + my mod a choice, they spending points to combine them, as well as general deck customization (which they did)

Mine would've been much more complicated i can imagine though

I have one complicated enough deck as is already

[frozen vector]

Huh, not that bad on that part atleast

[cloud willow]

it took 4 lovely pathces 😭

I had to implement main_end myself

[frozen vector]

Nevermind...

I stand corrected...

My draft deck only took 2 patches

Well, 3 but one is reused

I should have a video of my draft deck somewhere

Found it

[river mango]

button

[frozen vector]

Button

[frozen vector]

Also buttons

[river mango]

do these count as buttons

[frozen vector]

What am i seeing

[sleek granite]

fool

[river mango]

something new for my mod lol, the sprites are literally just placeholders

[frozen vector]

I mean... So is my entire mod

[tall perch]

Visually they look more like some kind of meter instead of a row of buttons, but functionally, anything can count as a button if you can click on it to make something happen.

[frozen vector]

Trueee

[river mango]

the button thing was me just messing around lol

they're not buttons at all

[frozen vector]

What do we think about my buttons

[river mango]

fun buttons

[sleek granite]

there we go

[formal orchid]

better than my printer select 😭

[frozen vector]

Cinema

[frozen vector]

Whats yours look like again?

I forgot twt

But also yay :D

[formal orchid]

the sword for the spades,,,

[formal orchid]

its just a collection menu

[frozen vector]

Ahhhh

[tall perch]

Looks cool and way better than the "press left/right forever to select things" that the vanilla UI does when lots of mods get installed.

[frozen vector]

:3

Its how the deck is made

[formal orchid]

oh yeah i also need to remake it

[frozen vector]

You pick 3 from 3 sets of 3 random

[formal orchid]

wasnt there a draft pick mod somewhere

[frozen vector]

Idk

I did this from scratch

[formal orchid]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1319412137977712691

found it

[river mango]

the drafting mod exists but i believe its outdated

[formal orchid]

i believe its not

[formal orchid]

this is peak tho

[frozen vector]

Mine is cooler 😎

[frozen vector]

Some deck effects are still buggy with it sadly

[frozen vector]

It also has a sleeve that does the same thing, but for sleeves when you have cardsleeves

[formal orchid]

dang

[frozen vector]

If you stake it does a 3rd round for jokers

[frozen vector]

Stack it*

[frozen vector]

Its just ones that effect blind size, and plasma

Everything else works i believe

[formal orchid]

plasma,,

[frozen vector]

Oh and abandoned for some reason iirc?

[frozen vector]

Yuh

[formal orchid]

i like the balancing effect of plasma

cool concept

[frozen vector]

I do too

It and black are my most played decks

With black having ~80hrs more iirc

[formal orchid]

fuck black deck

worst deck

[sleek granite]

whats up

[formal orchid]

its peak

[frozen vector]

Im fixing it in my balance mod i promise twin

[sleek granite]

oh yeah i think the spades designs in general are the strongest here

[frozen vector]

-# i just need an idea

[formal orchid]

chud

[frozen vector]

Also fuck painted ngl

[formal orchid]

my fav suit has the best design chud

[frozen vector]

I made it -1 hand

Then i buffed green by +1$ on both amounts too

[frozen vector]

I just need an idea for it then it will be done

[formal orchid]

i suck at ideas

[sleek granite]

im taking this excuse to post them with effects too

[formal orchid]

ideas hate me for life

[frozen vector]

Loll

[formal orchid]

how do you get these ranks

[sleek granite]

right now, its just standard packs

probably like a tarot or something maybe an oddity

[frozen vector]

Okay but, texture pack with malverk when?

[sleek granite]

texture pack for what

[frozen vector]

Face cards and aces

[sleek granite]

i mean thats just a deckskin i dont even need malverk for that

[frozen vector]

True

[sleek granite]

im bad at drawing peopleshapedobjects tho so face cards are kinda hard

[frozen vector]

Idk my default just says "change texture -> malverk"

[frozen vector]

Dont carreee

Just use these

Or atleast the swords as aces

That alone is what i want

[sleek granite]

i had a deckskin for the eyes suit

[formal orchid]

i see

[sleek granite]

ill probably make a deck that starts with each of the ranks i provide, im curious if it's painful or not lol

[frozen vector]

Make one with the swords as aces

I beg

They look too cool

[formal orchid]

i want swords as aces

yes,,

[sleek granite]

what no

then what will the swords be

[frozen vector]

I mean for like

Play outside of your mod

They would lowk become my default

[sleek granite]

i dont particularly care

[formal orchid]

that is fair

[frozen vector]

Sadge

Very unfortunate

[sleek granite]

you can also level up suits with planet cards and some jokers btw, so it's not all reliant on Wands (neglected features list shrinks by one "Suit Levels" sized line)

[frozen vector]

Mhm mhm

[formal orchid]

suit leveling is also a good concept

[sleek granite]

its been in thac for like ever its one of the first "mechanics" i had

[formal orchid]

im aware

[sleek granite]

even got a fancy lil menu :3

[formal orchid]

thac is one of the modso that inspired me smh

[sleek granite]

oh yeah people can observe me and form concepts of my work

[frozen vector]

Should i play thac

[formal orchid]

yes

[frozen vector]

Where get

[forest knoll]

https://github.com/AutumnMood924/TheAutumnCircus

[frozen vector]

Peak

[long hare]

😬

getting the joke ante 1 is very scary

im so glad its greater than 2X and not greater than or equal to 2X

[forest knoll]

anyway 🤔 this is mostly fine, but my main concern is other modded content that tries to destroy cards. if they use SMODS.destroy_cards, it won't destroy the card but everything else will go through (like how madness works with eternal jokers), which is fine by me. but i think i need to hook/patch into smods to fix returning { remove = true } in a few different contexts still

(specifically talking about eternal playing cards; perishable and rental are perfectly fine)

[long hare]

next level is that stickers can appear on cards in the initial deck

[sleek granite]

i wonder if eternal playing cards go to the graveyard when they try to die

probably not iirc its tied to actually destroying the card

[woven crag]

steal the spectrallib patches for eternal playing cards

Except probably not the one that prevents death from converting eternals? I always thought that one was stupid

[forest knoll]

is that in spectrallib? i just searched for eternal in the github and it's only coming up with something for forcetrigger
but yes i've borrowed the logic from most of the cryptid patches for it

(i converted most of them into take_ownership actually)

[woven crag]

Entropy also uses eternal playing cards so im like 99% sure its in spectrallib

[forest knoll]

oh no entropy just copies the patches too
literally still has "Yellow Stake" in the comments lol

anyway here's all the behavior i account for:

• hanged man can't be used on eternals
• immolate will just not destroy eternals, going below 5 cards if there are less than 5 non-eternal cards in hand
• trading card will give $3 without destroying the card
• sixth sense will create a spectral without destroying the card
• anything modded that uses SMODS.destroy_cards in its code will do everything it says except destroy the eternal cards
• (todo): anything modded that returns {remove = true} in calculate code will not destroy eternal cards

[long hare]

ah

emerald is affected by glowing deck

[frozen vector]

I actually love that trading card and sixth sense interaction

[long hare]

swashbuckler+emerald build is going crazy because of glowing deck

[forest knoll]

yea it's the same as how madness interacts with other eternal jokers, i think it's cool

[frozen vector]

Peakk

[severe nebula]

i installed madcap and the mod is beyond WIP, it barely has 10% of the content it advertises and does not have the infinity rank i'm looking for. idk if this mod is abandoned or not.

okay so now what? where do i go from here?

[sleek granite]

play my mod

[severe nebula]

i just need 1 small and specific thing, and not a single mod adds it properly

[sleek granite]

you don't need it.

[hard plank]

something

[forest knoll]

ok then you are unfortunately not going to be able to find something that does what you're looking for yet. the feature that allows cards to count as multiple ranks at once is actually a very large specific thing that's taking a lot of time to implement in a way that won't ruin game performance

eventually it'll (hopefully) be part of smods, and you can make your own mod with a "wild rank", but for now it's impossible

[severe nebula]

well damn, that sucks

[finite basin]

i swear ill get back to wba after im done with the exams 🙏

amulets big ante is fun

[forest knoll]

ah i need to account for glass cards

[rain orbit]

[hard plank]

hi meta

[forest knoll]

hihi

[hard plank]

what if there was a dice that rolls for the judgment

[forest knoll]

what is the judgment

[sleek granite]

what if there was aikoyori

[brazen mica]

hey does anyone know of a method or mod that allows for me to disable the game over screens red tint and or the little guy that taunts you.

it just gets me mad and i alt f4 for an hour or two cause of how much i dislike that part of the game.

[hard plank]

did you see this video

judgment basically makes it so you lose less hp per card eval status text

[forest knoll]

i see

[frozen vector]

I am confounded by this

[hard plank]

mechanicslop

[frozen vector]

Now make a boss blind focused on it

[finite basin]

drop the mod list 🙏

[formal orchid]

how to make my mod good

[hard plank]

wdym

[frozen vector]

It is twin

[finite basin]

what mods do u use for the font

[frozen vector]

Better than mine

[hard plank]

trance

[finite basin]

or different badge texts

[hard plank]

and Google Sans Flex 9pt Bold

[sleek granite]

❄️ Trance

[formal orchid]

i hate my mod

[hard plank]

that's custom

[frozen vector]

Snow flake???

[finite basin]

thaikoyori

[frozen vector]

It's peak

[hard plank]

custom aikoshen thing

[frozen vector]

anygays

[sleek granite]

aikoyori how do i make my mod cool like yours

[finite basin]

new way to thank aikoyori just dropped

(thaikoyori)

[hard plank]

i wish my mid mod was at least fun

[frozen vector]

Thaikoyuri

[frozen vector]

Wild cards no longer count as a suit if its debuffed

[formal orchid]

me when i lie

[rain orbit]

The suit boss blinds in my mod ironically don't debuff wild cards and I didn't realize until I already saw it

[finite basin]

take this, for have you earned the "The Biggest Lie Said in History" award.

[frozen vector]

That was the original effect for my wild cards, but

This seems more unique

[brazen mica]

?

[rain orbit]

My version of the goad instead of debuffing spades it debuffs all non-spades, and since wild cards count as all suits it counts as a spade and thus isn't debuffed

[frozen vector]

I like this

Peak

[formal orchid]

there isnt one no

[brazen mica]

damn. thank you for the reply.

[rain orbit]

Of course I'd name the blinds something different but I'd have nothing for a majority of them

Like what the hell would the opposite of the manacle be

[frozen vector]

Glasses

[rain orbit]

I don't even know what a manacle is

[finite basin]

thats a monocle 😭😭

maybee

[frozen vector]

Oh yea is it?

[finite basin]

the handcuffs? +1 hand size

[rain orbit]

The opposite of glasses would be an astigmatism

[frozen vector]

Idfk

[frozen vector]

Lmao

[rain orbit]

I have it bad

My glasses would make you feel like you popped some molly

It'd make you feel like you ate that nyquil chicken

[forest knoll]

ah, fuck me
platinum stake means my stake mod has to wait until the next smods release to be able to release (it uses context.modify_booster_card)

[frozen vector]

Or; mane it yourself

Make*

Skrew autocorrect

[sleek granite]

he's green for an amazing reason

[forest knoll]

lol, i guess i could
it's just a basic patch

[frozen vector]

Ive made a few of my things from scratch

i still continue work in quantum ranks/enhancements/whatever better than smods

[forest knoll]

i mean i'd literally just be copying this from latest smods commit

[frozen vector]

Lol

[woven crag]

Just wait until quantum enhancements good update drops

Ruby was working on something like that for an smods pr

[frozen vector]

Im trying my best

[sleek granite]

quantum enhancements good edition: they're removed

[woven crag]

quantum enhancements are Stupid because why a context

Same with quantum ranks pr

And is_eternal

Those have NO reason to be contexts instead of hooks like any is_suit stuff

[frozen vector]

True

[woven crag]

Tanzanite seal seems extremely weak

Orange is fucking insane

Teal is alright i guess?

[frozen vector]

Them being in a different spot pisses me off, otherwise i agree with eris here, tanzanite weak, orange goes crazy

[river mango]

chat did i cook

[rain orbit]

They're in different spots as they're "bizarro" seals, like how the 'rekoj' text is on the top right and bottom left instead of where it is on jokers

[river mango]

it's the same consumable dw about that

[frozen vector]

Cool, still wont stop it making me unreasonably upset to look at lmao

[rain orbit]

They're also horizontally flipped

[frozen vector]

Huhh

[frozen vector]

Congratulations on making me hate it even more.

[rain orbit]

[river mango]

Lmfao it's for those disks i sent earlier

[frozen vector]

Coool

[rain orbit]

Should I upgrade it to +15 or something

[frozen vector]

I'd probably do like, 20 ngl

[rain orbit]

Also orange is supposed to be op but you'll fuck yourself over if you abuse it too much, but I suppose you could probably abuse perkeo though they aren't supposed to show up together

[frozen vector]

It also just seems like a weird seal too ngl

[rain orbit]

I mainly just try to achieve the opposite of what the original does and if I can't inherently twist it then I tack on a benefit to using it

[cloud willow]

yippee

[cloud willow]

perfectly balanced trust

[frozen vector]

@formal orchid (hope you dont mind the @) i think you might like this :3

UI for my mod

[long hare]

got it up to e151

[ancient sinew]

1e308 is bugged, unless aiko fixed it

[rain orbit]

Bro grew up

[blissful stag]

The undertale au that exists specifically in my mod and my mod only

[latent crescent]

Oh so someone already doing rebalance mod, I see

[frozen vector]

indeed i am :p

and making everything optional

[latent crescent]

I see I see

[frozen vector]

you're more than welcome to help if you would like, or make your own or whatever you want

[latent crescent]

Kinda time-consuming to do it

[sweet bramble]

play my vanilla ReBalanced #1466059676956364914 message

[frozen vector]

that is fair

it was simply an offer :3

[sweet bramble]

also this ui is hella clean

[frozen vector]

you think so?

yippee

[latent crescent]

It's not pretty but it's okay

[frozen vector]

it was based on the cartomancer UI

[latent crescent]

I would preffer to see card actually

yea cartomancer's ui is not pretty aswell

[frozen vector]

im no good at UI's with card display sadly

best ive ever managed was just copying collection display :p

[frozen vector]

i would honestly say its just fine how it is

[latent crescent]

for someone who barely understand UI probably

For me it's meh, but layout itself is okay

But card on left makes a lot of sense

[frozen vector]

ouch, but okay

[latent crescent]

people think ui is difficult but it isnt actually

[frozen vector]

no, it isnt

but its just, idk

i wanted something i could easily expand

[frozen vector]

thank you tho :3

[blissful stag]

Ui schmui

I need to look into it later now which stinks

[granite forum]

I neeed

[frozen vector]

as in you want to play it...?

[granite forum]

yes

[frozen vector]

oh

people wanting to play my silly balance mod???

people liking my stuff???

[granite forum]

oujia and sigil rebalance is so tasty

[frozen vector]

lemme show some others if you want

[frozen vector]

heres all current categories

ill grab my favorites now :3

(wild cards when debuffed by suit will count as every suit OTHER than the debuffed suit)

(all pack-tags are the same by adding to the shop)

(i have some more 1 sec)

[frozen vector]

@granite forum

again, everything is toggleable

[cloud willow]

soo uhhh

hmmm

yeah I might have done somethign

[frozen vector]

W H A T

[silent thistle]

wat is dis?

[limpid lake]

i mean it's definitely something that can be done
but I'm not yet aware of a mod that actually does it

[frozen vector]

A BUNCH of changes being made in my balance mod (currently not out at all yet)

[limpid lake]

i could probably throw together a single-purpose mod that just does that

[silent thistle]

int eresting

[frozen vector]

Thank you

[granite forum]

most of these are so peak

[frozen vector]

Really?

Hooray

I should also mention this; the entire mod is being built with everything as a toggle

if you do not like something, turn it off

[granite forum]

yeah ik

interest on skip is interesting

[frozen vector]

Lol

It wasnt that hard to make

Hardest part was making it work with interest related things like ttm

[granite forum]

oh could you make ttm just say doubles interest

[frozen vector]

Ooo

True

[granite forum]

i had thought it was Xmoney essentially

but no

it's just double interest

wait

[frozen vector]

Alternatively

[granite forum]

tbf it would still work on green deck

[frozen vector]

make it work how it should

[granite forum]

i think

[granite forum]

no Xmoney is so broken

it could max tho

"Earn an extra $1 for every $5 you have at end of round
(Max of $50)"

[frozen vector]

I was thinking up the $ required per 1$

But uncap

[granite forum]

hm

[frozen vector]

Like 1$ per every 10$ or something

[frozen vector]

In favor of having each stake actually being unique; all stakes increase ante scaling

[cloud willow]

genuinly going to crash out i've been on this for 2 hours

[granite forum]

also download 🥺 🙏

[frozen vector]

Am i hitting with these changes?

Or are these horrible misses

[granite forum]

yes

[frozen vector]

Hits?

[frigid mica]

I need to learn how to advertise my mod more efficiently.

[granite forum]

yes

[frozen vector]

Fuh yesss

[cloud willow]

why should I play your mod

2 minutes

convince me

[frozen vector]

I just toss random things here

[granite forum]

play my mod

[cloud willow]

I have no idea what these do

why wuld I be interested

[frigid mica]

Ok I’ll start over

So

Busted Buffoons is an intentionally unbalanced mod

[cloud willow]

how unbalanced

[frigid mica]

It aims to be near the level of Polterworx

[cloud willow]

2 minutes are up

okay you;ve sold probably half the numberslop enjoyers

[cloud willow]

👍

[frigid mica]

I feel like the better response would’ve been “maybe your favorite character is in the mod”

[frozen vector]

How many people have i sold with my random drops?

[cloud willow]

idk

[frigid mica]

Balanceslop vs Numberslop

[granite forum]

"balanceslop"

🥀

[frigid mica]

Idk what to call it

Vanillaslop?

[frozen vector]

Well, i sold one person atleast

[frigid mica]

What are these kids saying nowadays

[cloud willow]

progres

[balmy lily]

im probably boutta make a blinds only mode for my mod if ii ever commit again

[frigid furnace]

meaningless terms

[frigid mica]

I don’t think any of the numberslop enjoyers even know of my mod’s existence.

I need to learn how to market my Cryptid shaped mod like a pro.

[sweet bramble]

third category is good art

[rain orbit]

Unsuccessful merchants before lincoln's election:

[frozen vector]

Pfff

[frozen vector]

Art coming never in rew1red unless people volunteer

[frigid mica]

Oh yeah, were there any “intentionally broken mods” that championed unbalanced territory before cryptid?

[sweet bramble]

i think people just didn't know how to balance mods before cryptid

may 2024

[rain orbit]

Likely stuff that edited vanilla values or added a couple of op jokers

[sleek granite]

people knew how to balance mods and then cryptid landed out of the sky and brought with it the cataclysm of unbalanced snorefest mods

[frigid mica]

-# I’m starting to think Autumn might hate me and my mod.

[cloud willow]

play my mod...

-# i'm going to eep now gn
-# https://discordapp.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1471252195713482833

[granite forum]

better than being blocked

[frigid mica]

I don’t know man, hate is a strong word.

[cloud willow]

you can at least contact them

[frigid mica]

No, I don’t think they’d like that.

Respecting privacy and all that

[frozen vector]

i try my best :p

[granite forum]

where is my baron

[forest knoll]

staking it

[frozen vector]

oh hey, @granite forum

if you were curious on the amounts on scaling

Main Stake Table (Base / Small Blind)

Ante	White	Red	Green	Black	Blue	Purple	Orange	Gold
1	300	300	300	300	300	300	300	300
2	800	850	900	950	1000	1050	1125	1200
3	2000	2200	2400	2700	3000	3400	3900	4500
4	5000	5600	6400	7400	8600	10000	12000	14500
5	11000	12500	14500	17000	20000	24000	30000	38000
6	20000	23000	27000	32000	39000	50000	65000	85000
7	35000	41000	49000	60000	75000	95000	125000	160000
8	50000	60000	75000	90000	110000	135000	165000	200000

this is the table i made

[robust urchin]

platinum looks a lot like white stake

[forest knoll]

yea gold, platinum, and emerald are at varying degrees of "still needs work" right now

[frigid mica]

How does red stake scale?

[forest knoll]

maybe put this in a code block so it formats properly

[frigid mica]

Gold stake?

[frozen vector]

| Ante | White | Red | Green | Black | Blue | Purple | Orange | Gold |
|------|------:|------:|------:|------:|------:|------:|------:|------:|
| 1 | 300 | 300 | 300 | 300 | 300 | 300 | 300 | 300 |
| 2 | 800 | 850 | 900 | 950 | 1000 | 1050 | 1125 | 1200 |
| 3 | 2000 | 2200 | 2400 | 2700 | 3000 | 3400 | 3900 | 4500 |
| 4 | 5000 | 5600 | 6400 | 7400 | 8600 | 10000 | 12000 | 14500 |
| 5 | 11000 | 12500 | 14500 | 17000 | 20000 | 24000 | 30000 | 38000 |
| 6 | 20000 | 23000 | 27000 | 32000 | 39000 | 50000 | 65000 | 85000 |
| 7 | 35000 | 41000 | 49000 | 60000 | 75000 | 95000 | 125000 | 160000 |
| 8 | 50000 | 60000 | 75000 | 90000 | 110000 | 135000 | 165000 | 200000 |```

NOPE

[frigid mica]

You’re reworking other stakes too?

[frozen vector]

Broke it more

[forest knoll]

i'm talking about the art for my stake mod, not the work amo's doing
but yes, and code-wise i've finished all the stakes on my end. here's what gold stake looks like

[frigid mica]

Wait, does this replace the pre existing gold stake?

[forest knoll]

yes, the rental sticker has been moved to Citrine Stake (the stake with the rental sticker on it in the image)

[formal orchid]

fire UI

[frozen vector]

:D

Thank you

[formal orchid]

finema

cinema

[frozen vector]

Thank you thank youu

What do you think about some of the changes i showed?

[formal orchid]

I dislike the sigil and ouija

but thats it

[frozen vector]

Mhmmm

[frozen vector]

Well again, im making it in a way where everything is under a toggle

[formal orchid]

That is true

[frozen vector]

the entire mod is your choice what to have

You only like my stake reworks? Turn everything else off

[formal orchid]

Stakes arent in the images

:(

[frozen vector]

Oh yea!

Lemme show the ones i have

[formal orchid]

Oh interesting

I have no opinions on this to be honest 😭

Havent played enough to make a comment

[frozen vector]

Lmao

[frozen vector]

Of vanilla you mean?

[formal orchid]

No.

[frozen vector]

In general?

[formal orchid]

yes

i dont play balatro smh

[frozen vector]

Ahh

[formal orchid]

even tho i have a 1000 hrs

its moslty devving

[frozen vector]

Ahhh

Yeahh

[sleek granite]

i missed screenshotting at 666 hours in balala

[frozen vector]

Okay; ive put eternal on green stake, now i need something for black stake...?

Hmmmmmm

[harsh hull]

Is there literally a help channel anywhere?

I just don't see an appropriate place to ask something where it'll both get attention in an appropriate channel and not get buried.

[sleek granite]

two of them depending on if youre a player seeking help https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1456641579346297053
or a dev seeking assistance https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1233186615086813277

[frozen vector]

Being buried is gonna happen in a server with this many people, thats just how that works

[harsh hull]

ah ok, thanks. I guess I'll use the former channel.

[forest knoll]

new gold and platinum stake sprites maybe?

[river mango]

square

[frozen vector]

i, do not like those very much honestly, but thats probably just my ~900 hours of "circle" speaking

[forest knoll]

understandable lol
i wanted something that stands out, since citrine stake and yellow stake are already very close to gold stake and these two stakes merge both of the stake paths

[woven orchid]

funy looking

maybe they should be a little more round but still not fully round of course

[forest knoll]

i c
thanks

[frozen vector]

1 - You must play at least 2 cards per hand

2 - Each hand played reduces hand size by 1 until the blind ends

3 - Discarded cards are reshuffled into the deck

what of those 3 sounds the best for black

[neat sundial]

stake or deck

[frozen vector]

Stake

Though i do want to change the black deck

Specifically the downside

[neat sundial]

2 and 3 seem too hard

[frozen vector]

Unsure what to do with it

[frozen vector]

Huh, weird

Someone said the same for 1 and 2

[hard plank]

hi

[frozen vector]

Hello aikoyori :3

[hard plank]

1 and 2 stinks

[frozen vector]

Same opinion as anither person

[hard plank]

3 can be positive in some cases

which black stake kinda already does

[frozen vector]

Is this a "i like 3", or a "figure out something else"?

[hard plank]

black stake originally make eternal show up no?

[frozen vector]

Correct

[neat sundial]

eternal helps with hex, ankh, and madness

[frozen vector]

Which is now on green stake in my mod

[hard plank]

what is the end goal

[frozen vector]

A "balance" mod

Basically a bunch of reworks and miscellaneous changes

Overall; how I would've made it for the most part

[neat sundial]

aiko shenanigans compat

[hard plank]

what is this

[neat sundial]

for my texture pack

https://www.nexusmods.com/balatro/mods/779

wait wrong channel

[hard plank]

I'm slightly afraid that it will get confusing

[neat sundial]

how

[hard plank]

ace of spades and pure spade

also nexus mods kinda sucks

[neat sundial]

i added it to github

too

[lost bolt]

a mod that makes the discards say "Weggooimogelijkheden" without setting the game language to dutch

[hard plank]

i would say invert the fill on the pure cards

[sleek granite]

aiko shanigan

[neat sundial]

like this?

[hard plank]

as in you make the rest of the area filled instead of the original area

i.e. invert selection and invert colour

[sleek granite]

test subject is so mean

[hard plank]

for example the pure spade should have a big symbol, the corner symbol, and border combined with 2 corner pieces of the opposite side

[neat sundial]

i think my recolor is ok