⚙・modding-general

[neon orchid]

What is even happening

[forest knoll]

he's confused about the fact that you have the most sandbox mode card possible in your mod while calling it not a sandbox mode

[frigid mica]

It is sandbox mode?

Like yes it is

[forest knoll]

the point of my mod isn't really to be sandbox mode

[frigid mica]

Wdym it’s not? I never said that

[forest knoll]

you literally did say it

right here

[frigid mica]

I mean it is but it’s not the point?

[toxic cloud]

Lisette's Chase

[frigid mica]

I just made this mod because I thought being part of something was cool.

Like nobody has made a Lydia-style joker that stacks on each card, so Spinel was made.

Nobody had made a joker that gave joker slots when you redeemed a voucher, Dream ENA was made.

Nobody made an actually cool-looking Minos or Sisyphus Joker, so I did it myself

I guess I did what I did only because the opportunity was there.

Nobody had ever made it before so, now I thought it would be the time to make that.

I like the idea of a joker that can have extra revives, I like the idea of a joker being based off of an album character like IGOR, I like referencing the game MUGEN in the mod

It’s not perfectly balanced, I just made it because I thought it was cool.

[dusty token]

🤔

[full edge]

I think you're reading stuff into this while the main point was just confusion about your phrasing

I think you just meant something different with sandbox than I thought you meant

[frigid mica]

I’m just scared of people shunning the mod for being too stupidly powerful, so I try to put a couple of balances here and there.

Yes I haven’t changed, because ultimately I do want people to appreciate what I make.

[forest knoll]

if people don't enjoy the broader balance of your mod, they're not the target audience and you don't have to care about them

[frigid mica]

I was just wondering about this argument.

[full edge]

Not like well-balanced is a ratings cannon anyway

[forest knoll]

my point isn't that you shouldn't care about everyone, just that you need to narrow down your target audience. you're never going to please everyone

[full edge]

Don't really care to debate it, but God I dislike the framing there so much

[limpid lake]

i create for my own enjoyment
i share for attention

[frigid mica]

I’m gonna push the new loc file

[shy quail]

I really like the new functionnality in steamodded I can use my legendary in the menu now yaaaaaaaay !!!!!!

[frigid mica]

I’ve yet to add that.

[neon orchid]

Bala🐱ro

[shy quail]

yea

its my cat

[frigid mica]

Since I haven’t been able to jot down “changing the bg semi-permanently when you own a joker of a specific rarity”, I’m just gonna scrap it.

[shy quail]

its me I mean

[frigid mica]

The main priority now is pushing all 15 of the legendary jokers planned at once.

[shy quail]

oh hell yeah

[lament talon]

really good yoshi run

[frigid mica]

So far I’ve only made sprites for Sonic, Tails, Marie, Zagreus, Steve, Pomni, and Steven Universe

The next on the list is Stormbringer Cookie.

[full edge]

I think most people also get the order wrong, where they treat their hobby projects like they're a company with a bottom line, instead of an artist trying to communicate with a potential audience.

[forest knoll]

true

[neon orchid]

Why is a robot with water?! There could be an electrical shock!!!

[frigid mica]

-# also jen Walter once blacklisted my mod for being essentially creative mode.

-# I’m scared he might do it again

[lament talon]

havent you heard of the term "sparks flying" /lh

[frigid mica]

-# don’t confront him about this.

[neon orchid]

The only flying spark I know is Kirby with the spark ability

[forest knoll]

with all due respect, i don't think this is that big a deal
it's one subset of the community, and you can exist as a balatro modder entirely without even remotely interacting with the mod (source: i do)
if people are gonna let jen's opinion dictate their opinion, that's their own problem

[full edge]

Big part of 'do art for yourself' is not that you aren't allowed to care about what other people think, it's that you don't start catering your creative output that you do for the joy of it to please an imagined audience of your own creation

[unborn plover]

How did that deltarune ship even get so popular

[lament talon]

because it's cute and the characters are cool i suppose

[unborn plover]

idk but I don't ship them since they didn't interact at all in the game

[lament talon]

i think that's why people call it a crackship

[unborn plover]

makes sense

[lament talon]

i still think it's pretty awesome 'v'
proud of the effect i made for the joker too

[limpid lake]

also like
even if he does do it again (which is unclear whether a mod blacklist is even on the table), anyone who still wants to play your mods together can just edit the blacklist

[shy quail]

f*ck Im not gonna make it for the WoM

[restive finch]

can someone help me with this???

[shy quail]

u should go in #⚙・modding-support

[normal hollow]

no, #⚙・modding-support

[shy quail]

oh yeah I tought he was a dev

[formal orchid]

looks more like a support issue than a dev issue

[shy quail]

mb guys

but I think the problem is Lost edition with the smod version but idk

[keen quail]

no it's entropy not having it's entropy.lua

[formal orchid]

bmm installed the mod incorrectly probably

its missing files

[normal hollow]

multiple mods seem to be missing files

[exotic belfry]

Another BMM issue for the pile

[strange abyss]

after 2 weeks of developing a mod i finally set up .vscode/settings.json to point at libraries

its nice now

[normal hollow]

nice

[unborn plover]

no context

[wispy canopy]

Thoughts?

[molten laurel]

obsessive objective better has some hidden mechanic

[wispy canopy]

Why?

[molten laurel]

seems weak scaler to me

1 chip per round and half sell value for some chips, looks like you could scale square much easier, and for a rare card

the art is lovely and akahachi is intriguing

[wispy canopy]

Maybe it would be better as the full sell value

I worry that would be a bit too strong

[molten laurel]

I mean, +1 chip end of round seems like a joke in my opinion

[wispy canopy]

You're increasing the chips you gain per round

[molten laurel]

ooh, so first +1, then +2, then +3...?

[wispy canopy]

So after a few rounds you can easily get it to 20-30 chips a round

[molten laurel]

so it is scaling the scaling, then the description should be tweaked

[wispy canopy]

I think Chip Gain is clear enough but I can change it to chip scaling

[molten laurel]

oh chip gain

misread it

in that case it seems much cooler, almost in the same ballpark as rocket

[long hare]

LISTEN HERE KID, LET ME TELL YOU A SECRET

[neon orchid]

Jimbo jumpscare

[unborn plover]

Lmfao

[strange abyss]

i do like Akahachi for Face Card Scored and not If played hand contains Face Card since it creates more interesting combos

[neon orchid]

And the joke is the grandma is dead

[long hare]

oh silly lil mod idea

[rancid nexus]

worlds hardest game 3 joker, basically

[long hare]

the jimbo quotes at the end of the run are instead said by a random joker owned, and each joker has a specific line for winning and losing

[rancid nexus]

this one is my favorite

[barren vigil]

are there mods where jimbo just starts being rude to you for losing? 😭

[neon orchid]

Is there a mod that adds tippi from super paper mario

Nah I’m just kidding

[forest knoll]

@woven orchid can you send me that spotlight screenshader i'm gonna add tippi to balatro /silly

[neon urchin]

FREE money

mrrr beeeaaassst

[ornate bone]

ZEUS! LET MR. BEAST GET OUTTED AS A SEX OFFENDER AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

[neon urchin]

wanting people you dont like to be a sex offender is crazy work 💔

[ornate bone]

Oh don't worry

I also wish the same for that blippy guy.

[neon urchin]

idk a blippy guy!

[ornate bone]

this wacko

[neon urchin]

👀

[woven orchid]

steal it from aqu

[forest knoll]

thanks
I was joking but honestly it'd make a silly partner

"click me to tattle a game element! +1 Mult per unique tattle discovered this run (currently +0 Mult)"

[rain orbit]

Where do I find the +mult and Xmult sounds

[woven crag]

assets/sounds/multhit1 and assets/sounds/multhit2

in the files

[forest knoll]

isn't it in resources/sounds in the balatro exe

[woven crag]

oh resources

yeah

[charred rune]

guys

my gf and i just broke up

i need mods

for coping

[rain orbit]

I'm not a professional file surfer I'm gonna need more info

[woven crag]

balatro exe

create a copy of it

rename it to balatro.zip

unzip it

[rain orbit]

[woven crag]

navigate to resources/sounds inside it

[rain orbit]

All it did was change the name not the file type

[charred rune]

enable file extensions in fe settings

[woven crag]

yea

[charred rune]

fe = file explorer

[wind turtle]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1355819401198178455

[rain orbit]

File explorer has settings?

[woven crag]

whatever this is in english

[unkempt current]

i love playing around with my mod

[rain orbit]

"Balatro.zip is invalid"

[woven crag]

huh

wierd

[charred rune]

you could also rename balatro.exe to balatro.love and use 7Zip

[woven crag]

then just open it with 7zip

you dont need to rename it then

[charred rune]

i did that for other love2d games

[rain orbit]

[forest knoll]

yea you can open it with 7zip directly

[rain orbit]

Is there a resource website I can just use instead

[woven crag]

uh spriters resource might have them

[forest knoll]

it does yea
https://sounds.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/balatro/asset/452647/

[rain orbit]

What would work as a better -mult sound

Reversed mult or pitched down mult

[woven crag]

pitched down prob

[unkempt current]

maybe both

[neon urchin]

a wet cartoony splat noise

[limpid lake]

a donk noise

[balmy lily]

youre mod is the perfect excuse to add a representation of ikaruga to balatro

[strange abyss]

play_sound("timpani") save me....

[unkempt current]

-# what does "you are mod" mean

-# /j

glop 2.0

[unborn plover]

they do be telling you what a method does but not what it has inside...
had to see the vanillaremade script for this.

[woven crag]

Well in theory you can do anything inside

[unborn plover]

still can't figure out what those 1, 1, 0, 0, values mean

I swear to god the doc needs a BETTER writer

[limpid lake]

based on HEX() I'm guessing r, g, b, alpha

possibly in a different order for no reason

[normal hollow]

there are no docs for vanilla

[limpid lake]

but check ofc

[normal hollow]

it's not a writer thing

[unborn plover]

....o h

[unborn plover]

wait what's that for

[normal hollow]

X, Y, W, H, config

[unborn plover]

oh I get it

damn, my brain is burning rn

kind of hard to get used to this code...

[strange abyss]

ohhh i had to get the platform role to be able to use reactions. weird.

[lost inlet]

human... i remember you're balamods....

[neon orchid]

super mar mar

might be the best 3rd mod a person ever installed

also related to visuals
selke if you seeing this shoutout to you

[tardy sigil]

this is gonna take forever bruh

[neon orchid]

this is going to be the best mod ever

better than anything any other HUMAN in this server created

(theres some non human mod creators)

[tardy sigil]

what?

[neon orchid]

nothing :3

[tardy sigil]

i cant tell if this is about ai or something even more stupid

[neon orchid]

its stupider

im saying some mod creators are aliens

[ember flicker]

placehomer

i'm a cat

[neon orchid]

you are a human behind the screen

[ember flicker]

no

[neon orchid]

yes

i literally see you

[ember flicker]

no look

[neon orchid]

not the same cat

[ember flicker]

this is taken with my webcam

i pretend to be orange so you think i'm stupid

[neon orchid]

you are

(im kidding)

[ember flicker]

okay

[tardy sigil]

bro you cant say that thats racist

[limpid lake]

I'm kity

[quasi abyss]

i'm currently playing around with joker forge (a balatro mod maker)
...unbalanced ideas for the win!!

[forest knoll]

I'm wolf

[long hare]

im blood god

[long hare]

ok but where's eat pant

[tardy sigil]

He's coming hes coming. Trust me if you can think of a simpsons reference, I've got an idea down.

[neon orchid]

xenophobic*

you dunce

otherworldly creatures

im talking about THOSE

[limpid lake]

haha, placehomer

[rain orbit]

Bigger crossover than smash bros

[neon orchid]

WRONG!!!

[rain orbit]

[lime notch]

Would it be possible to design a joker that “takes a card”

This wouldn’t be what I’m going for, but for explanation of the concept here’s an example:

Hostage taker:
Takes a card at the start of round. Joker scores this card’s chips mult / bonuses.

[limpid lake]

sure
make a hostage zone card area, have the joker move cards to and from there

[copper loom]

play my mod

play kloun

teto

[limpid lake]

i did a similar thing with the goose's house in stocking stuffer

[lime notch]

Could you, say, put the card on top of the joker, about an inch down, (so the taken card is overlapping the joker, but the top of the joker is still visable)

[neon orchid]

no :3

[limpid lake]

not immediately sure how to do that but one of the lobcorp jokers does it

[lime notch]

Hmm…

Actually the “hostage zone” area would kinda work too.

[grand geode]

Big and Will be Bad Wolf yes

[fair stag]

is cryptid compatible with more fluff

[limpid lake]

?
why wouldn't they be compatible

iirc mf literally has cryptid crossmod

[clear ice]

yo im playing pokermon, and for some reason snorlax isnt gaining any mult even though im holding leftovers. anyone know why?

[rain orbit]

Can madness target itself

[winged prism]

#⚙・modding-general won't know
Ask there:
https://discord.gg/AptX86Qsyz

[clear ice]

awesome, thx, couldnt find their server

[fair stag]

something keeps going wrong when they're enabled at once

[winged prism]

It can target other copies of madness but not itself

[rain orbit]

Ok

Is it vanilla accurate if big leagues destroys a negative joker and spawns a non-negative in its place despite all other slots being full

[inland plover]

I mean

It's possible to go over the joker limit with a negative invisible joker

I'm not sure what you mean by "vanilla accurate"

[rain orbit]

Is it intentionally allowed to happen by design

[inland plover]

I imagine not

I don't know if thunk has ever talked about that

[rain orbit]

Whatever I'll just let it be since it's a very specific context and invisible has it too

[hard plank]

adding woman to my mod

[winged prism]

A singular woman

Fascinating

[rain orbit]

The closest thing to a woman in my mod is morgan order and they look gender neutral

[proven aurora]

There is one in the vanilla game: Jen Joker, holder of the Driver's License

[inland plover]

God i love women

[forest knoll]

women 👀

[neon orchid]

steammodded updated which means i had to change the cat png again

(i have like 28 images of starwalker)

i guess im straight now

jimbo gives and jimbo takes

watered

[storm forum]

[foggy wing]

help i cant play a blind now 🥀😭

help meeeeeeeee

[forest knoll]

install the debugplus mod, and then you can hover over a tag and press ctrl-r to delete it

[balmy urchin]

I just realized smth

If youve played the Blindside mod, all the trinkets have the word 'trinket' in them hidden somewhere

Its like 5 pixels tall though, so it's hard to see

Right here, this is a good example

[strong obsidian]

Wiki-ing it rn.

[foggy wing]

i have 6 legendaries now and still havent spent enough tags

this is my shop

[rain orbit]

Man just start a new run at that point

[foggy wing]

i'll maybe post this in #1156061354076155944

[foggy wing]

hell nah brodie

[rain orbit]

[foggy wing]

600 dolars per round

[foggy wing]

after a while this is what i got

why are there negative chips and mults? idfkm

[main path]

More ui work 👀

[rain orbit]

Into the jimboverse

[strong obsidian]

< (Would I count?)

[formal orchid]

play my mod

[winged prism]

Play mod

[azure dagger]

Play

[strong obsidian]

My

[azure dagger]

Mod

[blissful stag]

tasty

[winged prism]

Why are tags negative

[eager hemlock]

so you can have +1 tag slot

duh

[wanton surge]

Amzing mod idea, where you have 0 tag slots and have to buy a teir 2 voucher to get 1 tag slot

Teir 3 voucher gives you another +0 tag slots, but ofc it would be cryptid only for being too op

[balmy lily]

-# it uncaps youre tags

[wanton surge]

Whoa

That is like... mayhem / pwx level op

Being able to have infinite tag slots is insane

[woven orchid]

reminds me i need to add tag compressing because you can get so many

[wanton surge]

I swear that exists somewhere

[woven orchid]

its a part of cryptid iirc

but i need it for valk redux

[balmy lily]

you judt havr to beat the hidden orbit minigame to use it

*just

*to get

[wanton surge]

👍

[balmy lily]

but that only unlocks it.

[wanton surge]

Hmmmm
Probably still need to nerf that /j

[balmy lily]

start grinding those uni colapses twinnnn

[woven orchid]

What

[toxic cloud]

what

[woven orchid]

a long series of minor fuckups led to the absolutely hilarious result of instantly losing when you played hand against this boss

[toxic cloud]

I'm assuming only High Card is allowed

[woven orchid]

the goal was to kill you if you scored way too much but i simultaneously miscalculated the threshold to kill you and also forgot to put it in an event so it happened instantly

the blind is called The High Road because it is summoned by the spectral card Freeway

[rain orbit]

[mighty coral]

wow pretty!!

i gotta learn how to do UI (i just want a basic config for my mod)

[full edge]

Configs are a really good intro into UI!

[mighty coral]

i've basically just been learning how steamodded works by making a mod over the last two weeks via trial and error and its turned from just a little joke to like

something i enjoy working on

so i have the excuse to go more indepth LOL

[full edge]

Haha, I feel you on that. That's how I started with Kino as well

And you need a little bit of passion to care enough to do UI because it's about as fun as it is difficult (not very)

[mighty coral]

i mean hey im trying to learn how to do shaders now lol

[wanton rapids]

good luck

[mighty coral]

whats a little UI to sprinkle in on top of that

[mighty coral]

i'll need it im not very inclined in that domain of programming at all LOL

[full edge]

Shaders are about as fun as they are difficult too (quite)

[hard plank]

linear algebra

[full edge]

time to document this stuff and finish this PR

[mighty coral]

ooh this looks fun lol

more steamodded stuff >:D

1501a is a cool update there's a lot of new stuff to play with that i'm interested to get in the weeds with

[full edge]

I'm diving back into shaders after I set this up. I still want to figure out the abduction and burn effects I had in mind

[wanton rapids]

i should clean up all of the morefluff code. theres a bunch of stuff that i dont like about it

[formal orchid]

i should do the same with mine

but im lazy

[mighty coral]

my mod feels like endless bug fixes when i make a new content update lol

i added a new deck in the latest content update and i didnt test it enough and i had to put out two bug fixes cause my friends broke the deck lol

[full edge]

I've had a kino update where I released 3 hotfixes for game breaking bugs in like 24 hours, haha

we're all amateurs, the standard's as low or high as you want it to be 😛

[formal orchid]

best case scenario honestly

beaing able to fix the bugs quickly 🙏

[unkempt current]

I forgot to test a joker that crashes the game
Before releasing my mod

Yay!

[mighty coral]

i dont TEST before release i dont MAKE SURE it works i let my friends BREAK IT and i FIX IT THEN

[full edge]

I have the constant urge to add game breaking bugs to jokers I suspect nobody uses just so I can figure out if anyone ever tries to use them in their runs, haha

[unkempt current]

I sure do love bugs

🐛

[formal orchid]

one of the jokers wasnt working for the last 3 updates and i just found out yesterday

[mighty coral]

like one of my decks just stops the shop from spawning anything and you gotta redeem consumable coupons to get stuff

and then i forgot to ban some vouchers so you could get overstock and the shop would work again

lol

its not as bad as it sounds trust

[full edge]

haha yeah that's recognizable

[formal orchid]

happens

[full edge]

making a mod goes to show why QA and game testing is an actual job, because it's so easy to just not consider obvious things

[formal orchid]

true

[mighty coral]

i studied games for two years i should know the importance of testing but i just dont LOL

[full edge]

I consistently forget to test whether mechanics still work if you quit and save runs. One day I'll learn

[formal orchid]

I think like i tested what i added in every way

Then someone sends a crash fot somethingi completely missed

[mighty coral]

some of the recent crashes my friends had were the evil "attempt to compare table with number" ones

[full edge]

that's on you for not telling them to not use talisman

[mighty coral]

i didnt realise talisman broke stuff LOL

i dmed one of my friends who is more in depth with modding stuff than i am "does talisman turn G.GAME.dollars into a table" and she told me "yes use amulet" LOL

i managed to assume talisman was the problem but i didnt realise that itd do something like that lol

[full edge]

Yeah, use Amulet 😛

Talisman was a great effort for the early modding scene, but it was a bit of a curse due to everyone using it for every mod, and mods needing to be made explicitely compatible with it. Amulet is a dream to have, now

[frigid mica]

If you’re using Talisman, all the mods are gonna have to follow through “to_big” compatibility process.

[mighty coral]

i resorted to just not letting my mod run with Talisman (its fine with Amulet though)

[frigid mica]

That’s why I kinda just stopped using talisman altogether

Because I’m too lazy to add all the to_big compats myself

[mighty coral]

if i can be bothered i might go back and fix the compatibility but also Amulet is just better all round anyway

[formal orchid]

i dropped working on talisman compatibility since amulet

and i couldnt br happier

[frigid mica]

What’s your mod got anyways

[full edge]

I can't see an argument to work on talisman compat at all now that Amulet exists, honestly

[mighty coral]

some jokers, some decks, some new consumables that interact with the jokers, like theres Industrial Jokers that can be upgraded to more powerful Technological variants of them :3

[full edge]

I should remove all the stuff I added for compat, I'm realizing. At this point it's not providing anything, and just a risk for stuff to go wrong, haha

[dusty token]

this error message is wrong

[mighty coral]

nothing super crazy though

[full edge]

does it have a thread already?

hey hey crust, thanks for the Amulet

[mighty coral]

yeah i just made one #1479075744738054185

[frigid mica]

No nests?

[mighty coral]

arent those duplicate smods install messages blue lol

[frigid mica]

Wait wtf

[full edge]

I thought I saw Eremel and wilson talk about the error message being weird if there's a specific version misalignment 🤔 though I might be misremembering

[full edge]

Do show off the industrial jokers, that sounds like a fun gimmick

[formal orchid]

I should make a modpack

[toxic cloud]

you're supposed to be as rare as The Soul
yet I've seen you the third time already

[formal orchid]

and play mods

[mighty coral]

i should really try an unlock erratic deck on vanilla instead of working on my mod LOL

[formal orchid]

i modded after winning white stake like 3 times ur good

[mighty coral]

lmfao

[unkempt current]

oh yeah ive also not unlocked erratic for a while

[formal orchid]

addition to chips

[unkempt current]

just unlocked it recently

[frigid mica]

I went straight to cryptid when I got the game, ur good

[mighty coral]

then there's my friend who is able to get e runs easily

which is great because he tests my mod LOL

[unkempt current]

makes sense
it is technically different with Xamp (which there will be a lot of if i chose this idea)

[full edge]

i've been getting e runs every time ever since I started using debugplus

[formal orchid]

ever since i got debugplus my joker stats've been a little off

[frigid mica]

Just win_game() atp 🥀

[mighty coral]

debugplus my beloved

[full edge]

Why did I make these two separate functions 🤔

[unkempt current]

we all love debugplus

[frigid mica]

Balatrue…

[formal orchid]

relatable

[mighty coral]

my balatro luck went through the roof when i eval SMODS.change_free_rerolls(6000000)

[formal orchid]

smods has that?

crazy

never knew

[full edge]

I think I wanted there to be a specific difference but somehow I forgot what it's supposed to be. I'll leave it in while the PR gets reviewed, maybe I'll remember

[mighty coral]

yeah its pretty cool lol

[formal orchid]

when was that added

[mighty coral]

i love that with two SMODS functions and a change to a global variable i can just stop spawning anything in the shop

[frigid mica]

Abbienanigans, huh

How long you’ve been modding?

[full edge]

Oh I think it's so you can refresh blinds if their pool changed, in case you sell a joker with any variation of 'Small Blinds can be boss blinds'? I'll remember at some point

[mighty coral]

like 2 weeks lol

[frigid mica]

Gitlab?

[formal orchid]

i should contribute to smods at some point

i feel leftout

😔

[mighty coral]

its not my first rodeo in programming (im doing a compsci degree)

[mighty coral]

not a big fan of GitHub with their AI policies and stuff

[full edge]

just find the thing that was the most annoying to implement and see if there's an API that you could add for that

[frigid mica]

Me neither but it’s nothing notable

[full edge]

prepare to update all your boss checks for the next release

[formal orchid]

Ive been looking but havent find anything yet

The only thing on my mind was blinds honestly

[frigid mica]

I’ve been developing Busted Buffoons for like I guess back in June?

[formal orchid]

and youre doing blinds

[mighty coral]

will this bring a new calculate context?

[frigid mica]

This is my first experience with actually modding.

[full edge]

There's the Ante path PR that's still a WIP you could take up, and I'm not adding support for 4th or 5th blinds in an ante, so you can figure out how to do that visually if you want to 😛

[mighty coral]

i've dabbled in minecraft modding before, there was a job i applied for ages ago for minecraft plugin development, but this is my first time doing it for fun lol

[frigid mica]

Will context.ante_change also be affected?

[full edge]

I should check for documentation's sake but it's not adding any contexts, just adding a parameter to the defeat boss and round_end contexts, I think

[formal orchid]

Hmm

[full edge]

but this might change because I'm not a great programmer so I'm sure Aure, Eremel or N will have ways to make this PR better, if it ends up being useful haha

[mighty coral]

just checking cause i do some boss checks in some stuff 😎

[formal orchid]

Does any mod add extra blinds after bosses

I dont remember

Or anything in this case

[full edge]

Entropy has a card that does, I think, I'm not sure. But in the same category, I've also not added a system to do a 2 blind ante, though I'd hope to say this is set up to make that easier

[frigid mica]

I mean I guess I played with scratch a bit but everyone would probably call me a fraud if I mentioned that.

[full edge]

scratch is a good entry tool to learn how code logic is structured

[wanton rapids]

why would people do that

[full edge]

Only would call someone a fraud if they're claiming to be a senior developer and their main programming language is scratch 😛

[frigid mica]

It happened to me before

[mighty coral]

scratch is as valid a programming language as anything else lol

it makes the computer go beep boop its a programming language its just in a different format to most

[frigid mica]

I will never be a senior developer cause my code is held together by hopes, dreams, and a minimum decent learning curve.

[mighty coral]

trust me, corporate code is held together by hopes and dreams too

[frigid mica]

Did you also do the art for your mod?

[mighty coral]

yeah lol

im no artist but i think it adds to the charm lol

[frigid mica]

Ok so we’re both on opposite sides

I barely know lua but I am an artist

[mighty coral]

i played a lot of computercraft as a kid so lua is second nature to me lol

[frigid mica]

What is this computercraft game

[full edge]

minecraft mod

[wanton rapids]

its a mod for minecraft

[full edge]

computercraft was my first real programming experience. Though as a kid I did a lot with the scratch-like editor for Warcraft 3 custom maps

[frigid mica]

What’s your favorite mod abbie

Balatro mod I mean

[mighty coral]

i havent played a ton of other mods but i've enjoyed cryptid a lot

i've seen my friend play yahimod which is a bit of an experience

two very different sides of the same coin lol

[frigid mica]

Polterworx

I done begging to play the mod ever since I learned of modded Balatro

Then I learned that it was gone for quite some time already after I joined.

Yahimod got me into actually making a mod tho

[dreamy abyss]

im not sure what my favorite mod is honestly
the mod that got me into balatro itself was balatro hevven
i pkay with like a bunch of different ones including my own
and i cant just say that my favorite mod is one i made because thats just rude

[mighty coral]

entropy is the reason i started modding balatro tbh

[full edge]

Entropy's great

[frigid mica]

Entropic Jokers 🤤

[mighty coral]

i need to play it but the person who made it is pretty rad

[dreamy abyss]

balatro hevven was the first mod i ever worked on

[full edge]

I started modding because of Cryptid, I think, but that's more so because Cryptid was the first mod I knew about so it's why I knew modding was even an option, haha

[frigid mica]

Ruby is a pretty rad dude ngl

[dreamy abyss]

and then i “invented” finity after i took a joke in #🎨・fan-art too far

[full edge]

But besides both mods having value manipulation, I don't think Cryptid and Kino ended up all that comparible

[frigid mica]

Turning showdown blinds into jokers?

[dreamy abyss]

yeah

[full edge]

does she use the word dude for herself?

[frigid mica]

I think dude is unisex

I’m a dude, he’s a dude, she’s a dude, cause we’re all dudes

[full edge]

haha depends on the person who you say it to, I'd say 😛

[dreamy abyss]

and now i also just have my own “random bullshit go” mod

[full edge]

oh, I'm realizing now what I was forgetting. I never added the showdown check to the PR. I guess I should make it so you can choose whether a blind slot can spawn showdowns 🤔

And change in which ante they'd show up

[subtle sedge]

chaos mods like cryptid are fun in any game tbh

theyre never NOT funny and interesting

[full edge]

They're a good capstone to a vanilla experience, I find. It's fun to get to do a power fantasy victory lap after you've been working on exhausting the vanilla game, haha

[frigid mica]

oh yeah, this includes legendary and other rarities

[unkempt current]

-# why is "or" blue

custom shop slots are always interesting to me

[frigid mica]

Imma fix that later

what deck should i use

[full edge]

One thing I might still add as a big mechanic change to Kino, honestly, is doing something with the shop. Feel like there's space to improve the mod there because the standard shop has to deal with a lot of bloat now

[formal orchid]

random bs go mods are the best

one day i can add printers and buckshot roulette

other day inscryiption

and no one would question

[frigid mica]

pointer printer

[formal orchid]

maybe not

[frigid mica]

we need more ace jokers

[prisma latch]

revo printer

[frigid mica]

aces are cool

[full edge]

i have to do a certification about printers for work tomorrow

slip me the answers, Revo

[formal orchid]

they uh

print

[winged prism]

What if there were aces

[formal orchid]

on stuff

[prisma latch]

I see...

[formal orchid]

some may say flying aces

[prisma latch]

what if balatro was Aces...

[full edge]

tell me the temperature in which i need to store thermal paper

[formal orchid]

Arround 20C

[lean dune]

what's hidden in that gap 🤔

[winged prism]

I wish I knew

[lean dune]

clearly it'd have to be "flying" and not "hidden"

[frigid mica]

i wish i knew you wanted me

[winged prism]

Running faces

[formal orchid]

walking numbers

[lean dune]

jumping jacks

[frigid mica]

steve lacy bruh

[winged prism]

Steving laces

[formal orchid]

Printing printers

[frigid mica]

ok i'm having a hard time deciding which deck to use

[formal orchid]

Play my mod

[formal orchid]

FORK AND KNIFE

[frigid mica]

ok

so now

uhh

i guess i

opened the vault

[mighty coral]

i should add some jack jokers to my mod

i have one that retriggers all played jacks so i should do something that does stuff with jacks lol

[mighty coral]

no way my decks :D

[winged prism]

Do you know him like that tho

Do you know

Jack

[frigid mica]

time to look into revo's vault

he's very secretive and nearly unseen, almost like a cryptid

i need more of those pun lines

it was a funny thing

[winged prism]

Like some kind of Balatro 2

[frigid mica]

why would i be flying planes when i could be flying aces

i wonder if aikoyori has been into more shenanigans these days

[dreamy abyss]

i think my mod might have at least 1 error

[winged prism]

You know what roguelikes are famous for, they solve the finity problem

[granite forum]

1 more before release

[foggy wing]

i think i could get a naneinf this time

[granite forum]

i agree

you are also playing wormhole sleeve legendary deck on cryptid

[foggy wing]

yes

speculo and membership card is a free ticket for naneinf already

[foggy wing]

okay so my computer is gonna explode atp

[balmy urchin]

Why is AM a joker now//?

😭

[frigid mica]

am is also a deck too

[ember flicker]

👋

me too

funny enough im working on classic roblox cards at the same time as my inscryption bullshit

[neon urchin]

how long does one spend on a single cryptid run…

[ember flicker]

until it crashes or until they get bored so much of the calculation wait

[spiral blade]

Finally released the alpha of the twitch integration mod

now to wait for people to tell me how terrible it is and I should never work on another mod again

[unkempt current]

Which one looks more interesting
(Chips + Amp) X Mult or Chips X Mult X Amp

[unkempt current]

I should def try out your mod

[ember flicker]

why is amp probability now

[unkempt current]

Sounds like something I would glue to my mods folder

[unkempt current]

Idk I thought green was probably a better color than orange

[ember flicker]

is amp luck based

[unkempt current]

no

Should I
Bring it back to orange or smth

[ember flicker]

idk

its up to you

uh oh i think i overwrote my jokers

[wanton rapids]

make it a subtle gradient

[unkempt current]

hmmm

[wanton rapids]

like yellow to orange

[unkempt current]

That would be very cool

Good ideea

[ember flicker]

thank god i uploaded it here

[unkempt current]

I'm still not sure what to choose
mmmm actually I'm just gonna stick with multiplier

It's simple and clean

[ember flicker]

it depends on how you're going to scale amp

in the future

[unkempt current]

romblox

What if there was a currency themed around robux

[ember flicker]

i hate ui enough to not want to add another currency

[unkempt current]

Fair

[ember flicker]

is roblotim problematic

doesnt look like it

[ember flicker]

added roblotim's chavez burrito and cheezburger

[fallow bramble]

WIP, everything's in a descbox now

[ember flicker]

woah

[granite forum]

play my mod...

[unkempt current]

okay

i will

but you should play my mod too.,

[granite forum]

hmmmm

i don't know

[woven crag]

what the hell

[trail berry]

wait ts is peak?

[granite forum]

ts ass bro

[trail berry]

george you're a meaniehead

[woven crag]

????

how

dynamically building together 3 arbitrary jokers is ass?

[trail berry]

wait

can you combine combined joekrs

[woven crag]

i assume not

i remember seeing very early screenshots of like

[trail berry]

d'aw i wanted to make joker soup

[woven crag]

the sprites of the different parts

so i assume it is a premade list of jokers

[trail berry]

thats true but where is the dagger in this

[woven crag]

idk

[strange abyss]

i have a question, why dont more mods do hotpot thing if having individual gameoobjects contain credits ?

if i want that in my mod do i have to add rendering by myself or is there a common library ?

[west hill]

because most mods don't have a group of 50 people working on them

[granite forum]

hotpot...

[strange abyss]

yeah but even for 3 people i think its neat

[woven crag]

its very common to just edit and copy cryptid

since it has a similar credit system

[strange abyss]

ohhhh

okay

[granite forum]

the one time you use cryptid code

every other time it is dogwater

only credits

[west hill]

hotpot credits look terrible imo anyway

[granite forum]

this is why cold beans uses cryptid credits

[west hill]

they're the same thing

[granite forum]

that's the secret

[woven crag]

okay but consider: thats fucking cold beans

[granite forum]

don't diss cold beans

it has more contentent than 99% of mods

[woven crag]

is the content good

[granite forum]

yes

especially the uh

consumable sets

oh and all of my ideas

it feels more whole than hotpot when i play it

it works all together as a whole

[woven crag]

okay but consider

longer development time and saying "its good trust" than hotpot and balatro plus combined

i think

[full edge]

hot pot's cool as a project but I think the play experience is strange enough that nobody ever recommends it

[granite forum]

you have to play it once i think

i came away impressed by it

but it's not incredibly fun

[grand geode]

author's bias

[full edge]

Most mods aren't fun, tbh. Though I measure fun by how often I say 'oh hey that's from a movie!'

[fallow bramble]

Imma answer em all in one but:
-No, it's just 3 materials into one joker
-I use default Jimbo if there's no art

[wanton rapids]

oops all jokers

[granite forum]

yes

[granite forum]

wdym

[toxic cloud]

isn't that the whole point of Kino, the mod for movie nerds

[granite forum]

there are a lot of new everything

maybe not vouchers tho

or tags

there are new tags just one for each consumable set

[limpid lake]

"amount of content" is maybe not an ideal measure
cause that's how you get unironic versions of #1478567404622839839

[wanton rapids]

pop mentioned

[limpid lake]

i don't expect cobo to measure up to hotpot but like, i expect it to be fun

[limpid lake]

fun and dumb fact, balatro± was basically one big excuse to make the Jerk Joker

[wanton rapids]

fair

surely it would be balatro' or d/dt balatro

[limpid lake]

but ofc once i got that far i couldn't not add snap crackle and pop

[limpid lake]

dangit that would be a better title
but the only ones i thought of were ± and not not next

[storm forum]

😶

[grand geode]

shouldve added a jokerforge file for the shits and giggles

[limpid lake]

would've been funny, but i can't be assed figuring out how to use joker forge

[strange abyss]

whas cobo

[granite forum]

where is +- in your username

gotta add it

[frigid mica]

yahimod's v1 ultrakill doesn't work for some reason

[mighty coral]

balatron't

[frigid mica]

he doesn't fling the coin wtf

[wanton rapids]

cold beans i think? which. i dont know why its cobo and not like cobe or cobeans

[granite forum]

yahimod

[frigid mica]

two face

i'm trying to figure out how it triggers throwcoin

[pastel surge]

i like to think im a talent

[strong obsidian]

Could also be called "Cool! A Coin Flip!"

[pastel surge]

thats a better name

[granite forum]

no

nonono

this is worse than seance

because it's too good

[keen quail]

pffff
seems kinda bad though, especially for a rare

[limpid lake]

cause i like to say cobo

[wanton rapids]

justifiable

[limpid lake]

true

[pastel surge]

its funny though

[granite forum]

this is worse than 8 ball

[wanton rapids]

crystal ball synergy

[pastel surge]

okay what do i do

[granite forum]

wait do you fr have gold stake in your name

as in you have beaten gold stake

[pastel surge]

yes

[granite forum]

that is funny

[pastel surge]

i need glass joker and like 4 other guys so i can get C

[granite forum]

YOU DON'T HAVE C??????

dayum

that is

[pastel surge]

there are like 4 guys

one of them is glass jokers

[granite forum]

okay but like

you don't have C

[pastel surge]

i think loyalty card is in there

[frigid mica]

yahimod and busted buffoons

[pastel surge]

showman?

[limpid lake]

I've gold stake'd 6 decks so far
I'm gonna chip away at it whenever I'm bored until i get c+

[granite forum]

i have C+

but no c is like

dang

i feel like everyone should get C before modding

[full edge]

what's your point george?

[granite forum]

idk

[limpid lake]

i bought balatro on three different platforms because I'm super normal
if the timing was just a bit different, and if incomplete collections didn't bug me, I'd probably use every item without ever actually getting c

[daring sluice]

you all HAVE to beat balatro before you're allowed to mod the game

[woven crag]

C is not even hard bruh

[granite forum]

😭

[pastel surge]

i havent used glass joker

[sweet bramble]

what's c again i forgot

[pastel surge]

whats the big deal

[woven crag]

C is just a grind

[granite forum]

all collection

[woven crag]

Primarily for the soul

And thats it

[crimson rain]

friendly reminder that localthunk himself didn’t beat gold stake until a few months at least after the game came out (at least iirc)

[pastel surge]

i got the 5 legendaries before glass joker btw

[crimson rain]

that’s why playtesters exist

[granite forum]

okay but C

i get if you haven't used oujia

[limpid lake]

you also have to pay attention to tags and stuff so you don't, say, get c++ without ever taking an uncommon tag

[granite forum]

i don't use oujia either

[full edge]

yeah man we understand

[pastel surge]

uncommon tag is ass tho

[mighty coral]

too lazy for ts let me grind my mod

[pastel surge]

tf is it gonna give me?

showman?

run saving ramen?

spare pants?

[limpid lake]

it is, yes, that's why i picked it as the example of one you might miss

[pastel surge]

spare pants is good but im not skipping for spare pants

[full edge]

do you get C for getting every joker unlocked or for every joker discovered?

[crimson rain]

I mean I Have unlocked like everything except Golden Ticket but like

[pastel surge]

discovered

[limpid lake]

discovered

[granite forum]

everything discovered

[limpid lake]

every item discovered also means beating every blind and taking every tag

[granite forum]

yeah tags i also understand

[full edge]

ah

[granite forum]

ig C is kinda out of your way

because like

[crimson rain]

misread as C+ mb fair

then I mean like yeah you sorta have to have SOME experience with the game ofc

[granite forum]

who skips for a mega standard

[limpid lake]

and touching every consumeable
which is mildly annoying with some spectrals

[granite forum]

oujia:

[crimson rain]

but like why does it matter

seems arbitrary

[frigid mica]

ok so i'm just fucking stupid

[mighty coral]

me when i got hologram

[granite forum]

on mobile i still haven't used oujia

[granite forum]

i still wouldn't take

[limpid lake]

and also to formally unlock c you have to do this all on one profile (see previous statement regarding me being super normal about this game)

[frigid mica]

v1 ultrakill only works when it spawns naturally

[full edge]

there are vanilla jokers I've entirely just used for achievement reasons, tbf. If I didn't want the achievement, Idk if I would've cared to unlock hit the road

[granite forum]

yeah honestly

who even takes hit the road

it could be X1 and i think it would be rare still

[limpid lake]

someone in desperate need of xmult

[mighty coral]

someone who is playing erratic with a shed load of jacks clearly

[granite forum]

sure

[wanton rapids]

hit the road carried me during an archipelago run but thats obviously not vanilla

[granite forum]

i think erratic gameplay is a little annoying

[crimson rain]

every joker can fit in a build somewhere

[full edge]

but anyway, in conclusion, george, you're very often very dismissive or judgemental over stuff in ways that come across antagonist or mean

[crimson rain]

just some more than others I think

[mighty coral]

erratic is based and im sad i havemt got it yet

[granite forum]

yeah true

[mighty coral]

you nono take hit the road if you play my mod and you using titanic

[full edge]

Titanic joker? My lawyers are on their way, I'm sorry

[mighty coral]

what does yours do

(ive never played ur mod)

[full edge]

(play Kino, I think it's pretty fun 😋)

It's not a particularly interesting one. It's part of a cycle of Commons that cares about the number of hearts in your deck. Forgetting the exact number but it's +1 mult, doubled for every 5 Hearts in your full deck, I think?

[mighty coral]

mine retriggers all Jacks

[full edge]

Hahahaha

That's great

[mighty coral]

cause main character of Titanic movie is called Jack

lol

[full edge]

I'm intimately aware (my mod's entirely based on my being obsessed with movies)

Titanic is a hearts joker in Kino because of My Heart Will Go On

That's the depth of that reference, tbh

[mighty coral]

ah yeah kino like kinema

[limpid lake]

jacks of hearts for maximum titanism

[frigid mica]

i really wanna make yahimod v1 ultrakill work with other mods but oh my fucking god

[wanton rapids]

what about it doesn't work?

[frigid mica]

I don’t even know, it just randomly switches between flinging a coin and not flinging a coin

I only tried fixing the crashing problem with the blueprint jokers

[unkempt current]

uhh

what have i done

[upbeat onyx]

How you do that? Like where is the line xd

[unkempt current]

wdym?

smallest balatro ever

[winged prism]

Computer

Show me the biggest balatro ever

Computer

Biggest balatros computer

[craggy jay]

hi am john peggle

[sterile basin]

Hello.

[craggy jay]

woah

made my day better

[limpid lake]

John Balatro when John Peggle walks into the room:

[glad solar]

Two Johns

What are we gonna do?

[vernal cedar]

🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[wanton rapids]

smallest pwx text

[granite forum]

rerolling is the scary part here

[vernal cedar]

nah

[strange abyss]

YOURE THE YOUNGEST JOKER EVER

[limpid lake]

[vernal cedar]

🐝

[gray delta]

no using consumables or skipping blinds?

[vernal cedar]

fuck

[gray delta]

xD

[ancient sinew]

+$1 per frame and click

[vernal cedar]

exotic joker ahhh

[gray delta]

also if we're gonna include end of round

[vernal cedar]

read it again mini

[gray delta]

what

[vernal cedar]

it already does thaht

oh wait i read wrong

[gray delta]

no i meant if we're going to include end of round then we might as well include the end of hand and discard

[vernal cedar]

nah

[gray delta]

also what about when a card is destroyed

[vernal cedar]

perhaps

[gray delta]

hell even duplicated or editioned

[vernal cedar]

yeah nah thats going into exotic territory

[gray delta]

what about skipping a booster pack

ok sorry this is too much lol

[vernal cedar]

I think More bee-us already got enough effects by now

Also shameless plug https://ptb.discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1478692831370547282

[granite forum]

huh

[rain orbit]

The zaniest

[ember flicker]

not hanging chad

[unborn plover]

chad

[fair stag]

is bmm worth using

[full edge]

balatro mods are pretty easy to install by hand, so not from that perspective

[tranquil vessel]

picture above from about 25 min ago is immediately relevant

[silent thistle]

BMM has some advantages and disadvantages.
Advantages are that it's basically a one-stop place to download all* mods, including updates, dependencies, etc... It is also a very straight forward process.
Disadvantages include that not every mod is in the BMM index, and if you are a developer it can mess with your mods folder.
-# (only mods added in the index are listed in BMM(

[limpid lake]

oh yeah, i should update menthol's entry in the index
ugh, it's such a pain though. like it's not a difficult task at all i just hate the busywork of it

[ember flicker]

the disadvantage is its an external software

🥺

[undone surge]

holy retroslop

retroslop got in Balatro

crazy

[west hill]

It doesn’t handle dependencies at all afaik

[ember flicker]

i'm sure bmm compat was supposed to do that but it just fails

food joker art done

[normal hollow]

if you are a player it can also mess with your mods folder!

[fair stag]

in what way

[normal hollow]

not installing the mods fully for example

[fair stag]

does it happen oftne

[normal hollow]

idk i dont use it but ive seen it happen recently

[cloud willow]

<@&1133519078540185692>

hacked account ):

[whole hatch]

Smh

[cloud willow]

dang another one

[formal orchid]

5 minutes

took 5 minutes for another one to show up

[fervent viper]

uhhhh, where can i say my mod ideas???

nvm i just found where

[tardy sigil]

https://github.com/the-2nd-olsberg/Jambatro/releases/tag/1.5.1

finally changed 0118...3 to the suggestion that someone suggested like... 5 months ago lol

[neon orchid]

this stacked effect MIGHT be ass

unlike the crying baby deck stack effect which is intentionally horrible

[long hare]

my suggestion:

Throwback Sleeve (+Deck)
Skipping Small Blind rerolls the Boss Blind

[neon orchid]

"ah, a boss blind i dont care about, how good!"
skips small blind and rerolls into a direct counter to current build
"FUCK!"

could have just been like the stacked egg sleeve (where you start with an egg) and you just start with a throwback

[long hare]

oh yeah that could be cool

gotta love +X0.5 mult per ante with little-to-no drawback

[neon orchid]

actually it could be tags that affect shops (joker tags, coupon, and reroll) are more like to appear

[strange dock]

is the modded balatro wiki down? it refuses to open today for some reason

[neon orchid]

i see this deck being really helpful in gold when you have a rental or two and no econ so you can skip the small blind to not lose money

[normal hollow]

miraheze maintenance

[mighty coral]

oh cool

i need to add card sleeves support to my mod

[strange dock]

ohhh okay thank you! wanted to make sure it wasn't just on my end

[torpid turtle]

where can idownload cryptid mod

[unkempt current]

https://github.com/SpectralPack/Cryptid

-# oh hey an arabic person

[desert mirage]

@every

[ember flicker]

btools

[novel heron]

finally beat the cyan stake with the fuck you sleeve raaaahhhhh

[keen vector]

Made my first ever set of Decks for my mod Balatro Jokers PLUS! Hyped 😎

[woven crag]

seal deck should probably just say "creates a Negative Deja Vu, Trans, Medium or Talisman"

[novel heron]

these look really nice

[woven crag]

and secret tape downside feels extremely harsh

besides that theyre cool though

[novel heron]

no please not, decks have no tooltips that explain these names to a noob like me

[woven crag]

yes they do

you can hover over them

[novel heron]

not with galdur i guess :U

[woven crag]

galdur should automatically add tooltips for any hover tooltips in the text

like

do you not get a hex tooltip on ghost deck

with galdur

[keen vector]

I play tested it and it felt right. I was free to do whatever I wanted with my Face card build I ran one of the games. Plus the little boost to econ at the start is amazing

[novel heron]

oh okay then maybe i'm just misremembering

[woven crag]

secret tape feels like a lot weaker of an upside than painted deck which has the same downside

[keen vector]

It has tooltips for those cards that appear

[keen vector]

I'll continue to playtest but it felt fine.

[woven crag]

it just feels kinda awkward to say "creates a consumable that has X, Y or Z effect" instead of listing the actual consumables that have that effect

[keen vector]

Ok, I'll mess with the text and see how it would look.

[keen vector]

Tyvm!

[woven crag]

oh yeah

i really like the art

especially secret tape

sealed makes sense but the solid colours feel a little boring, perhaps it could do something like Cryptid's seal deck where it has a coloured version of the respective seal's consumable

okay nvm apparently cryptid seal decks look very different than i remember them

but still smth in that direction

what they look like for reference

[keen vector]

Ah, I didn't know cryptid had a seal deck, I've never played it. But I wanted the deck to look really simple and just pleasant to the eyes. Kinda like Anaglyph.

[woven crag]

the cryptid seal deck is very different dw

[keen vector]

oh ok

[woven crag]

its just "all cards have X seal"

[keen vector]

Holy... lol awesome

[ember flicker]

baller

holy shit

[long hare]

demonic piss

[mighty coral]

those are pretty :3

[keen vector]

tysm!

[woven crag]

that feels a lot nicer yea

[ember flicker]

where

[long hare]

demonic piss the opposite of holy shit

[ember flicker]

cursed piss

[long hare]

also the single "where" reminds me of "LATINAS! WHERE?"

[keen vector]

Ok, thanks for letting me know it was off a bit.

[keen vector]

In this instance, I wonder if "create" or "gain" would be the correct term to use. Doesn't matter much I'm just curious bc Anaglyph uses "gain".

[woven crag]

tags are just a little wierd with wording

i think

because diet cola says create yet anaglyph says gain

[keen vector]

Oh that's strange

so i can use either ig

nvm

not a tag

but yeah, thats weird

[keen vector]

Maybe it's bc the tag is being created by a deck instead of a card source like a Joker or consumable 🤔

[woven crag]

perhaps

oh and double tag says gives

very consistent

[normal hollow]

[limpid lake]

that tfw when the game made by one guy for funsies has less consistent templating than mtg

[long hare]

what rarity should this be? (this is essentially saying two pair = 4oak)

[ember flicker]

do full houses count as 5oak

[long hare]

no