#⚙・modding-general
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Quantum ranks hasn't been implemented better than how it's done by All In Jest, and quantum enhancements are just a big hassle to properly set up, iirc, so I don't think a mod has figured out something more effective than SMODS' own implementation
quantum enhancements are about as good as they can be with what else we have in smods
to do better in terms of performance, you'd most likely need to trash compat with at least some part of smods features
how does quantum ranks like actually works, like mechanically behind the scene
https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/pull/838 this is the PR we have, tbh I haven't found time to check on it in a few months, not even sure what state it's in anymore
im trying to understand what the patch is changing
No guarantees on it being readable, but i can damn well try
and how that changes interacts with the code that allows quantum ranks
I assume you'd be able to improve the performance by making it less generically useful. If the only quantum enhancement you have is that specific circumstances make cards count as gold, you'd be able to make that more performant pretty well, i suspect
there's a calc context that asks a bunch of objects what ranks a card should count as that needs to be called whenever that can change
the main change needed from mods is that direct equality comparisons are unable to support that
depends on how well you know what a gold card is at runtime
it does look a lot of effort for effects that usually arent worth it, which is not a slight at the implementation but rather just the concept of quantum ranks tbh
i've had silly ideas like "6s also counts as 9s and vice versa" but quickly realise it's not worth jumping through the hoop for
another thing is that quantum ranks actually make it harder to evaluate poker hands
It doesn't lag as much if you use the file I sent you.
I'm not too fuzzed about quantum enhancements being laggy, because I think it's a difficult design space, but quantum ranks is probably the most obvious one, as far as there being a big want goes
there's also just more ways for it to get out of hand than there are for enhancements
combinatorics moment
there can be arbitrarily many ranks with an arbitrarily complex structure
but there can also be large hands
Yeah, for sure. I think it's a feature that's just kind of hard for SMODS to implement because SMODS needs to provide the most generic version of it. I'm sure there's smart work arounds you could do for a lot of specific designs that people have in mind, that are less of a problem to implement
-# Imagine trying to get "The Entire Fucking Deck" poker hand to calculate from a bunch of random cards-
though adjacent ideas to that, i'd love to do "6s turns into 9s when scored and vice versa" which is silly and doable
they might be able to do something akin to the experimental features where you can set just how generic you need to be
however my white whale is if i can figure out how to get the card to physically rotate when scored
like you could set if you want it to count for poker hands or not
not that bad actually
Yea, thats fair, bht u wanna try it myself
that would enhance the comedy of the card tenfolds
and i think that i'd need patches for
make a table mapping each available suit-rank combination to a table and insert each selected card to every bucket that it counts as
then check if every bucket is filled
Eh, even as an experimental feature you want to stuff to fully work, of course, even if it sacrifices performance. Though depending on how that quantum ranks PR works, maybe there might be a way to set up some methods that at least make implementing a more specific quantum rank like mechanic possible. No clue how you'd even do that, of course, so I'm just waving my hands through smoke trying to grasp at anything, haha
what is quantum enhancement anyway
like what actually does it do
i heard the terms thrown around so much but like what does it do
make all enhancements counts as every other enhancements?
at heart it's cards being able to count as having multiple enhancements
'all cards held in hand count as steel cards if played hand contains a king' and any effect like that. 'enhanced cards have every enhancement in your deck', if you wanna consider the issues that might pop up from it, haha
which is implemented as asking all calculating instances for what enhancements a given card should count as when the information of what enhancements a card has is needed
Thank you for that idea on the second one..
which is of course imprecise, there's some caching involved because asking each time would be way too inefficient, but even that is tough to get right
that effect is a good guarantee to basically have your mod not be able to work with a lot of others, haha. It requires enhancements to be designed with it in mind. I think in the past effects like it also were very good at dropping your fps to like 2, but maybe that's a bit better now
Who said i would do it via quantum enhancements?
I can fogure it out
Have some faith in me ouch
haha well if you find a better way to do it, make sure to PR it to smods 😛
Ill probably be doing it as a part to my mod, but I'd be more than willing to share that and whoever wants can so the PR
good luck :p
i mean i have faith in you but also able to recognise how sisyphean the task is
Fair
you're basically at the point where you're inventing neon light tubes when everyone is using incandescent bulbs
This is true...
I've been around in this community for long enough to know that the issue with features like that isn't that the right person hasn't come around yet, haha
If anything its closer to a neon light tube before electricity is around
Yea, but im still gonna give it a shot
Regardless of anything
i mean, definitely do
best case scenario, there's a solution that's better than what's around now, and worst case scenario, you've learned stuff
True
again we wil cheer for you if you succeed but also it will completely be okay if you give up
because everyone else did
Mhm mhm
What's so advanced that it won't work with a lot of other mods
If i succeed, i might as well be god for it, if i fail, oh well shit happens
Bro on their .exe arc
I think part of it is that for a lot of designs that'd need quantum enhancements or quantum ranks, there is some alternate effect that has the same vibe but is good enough. For a lot of people that want to solve the problem not because they like the challenge, but because they want a specific idea for a joker to work out, the path of least resistance is often just adjusting the design
honestly it might be revolutionary to include a secondary patching exe in your mod
that might be what'll do it
(I scrapped everything that needed quantum enhancements from my mod's design doc 😛 )
Ooo....
This could work

I have some work with that due to making a seed scouting tool that jsed immolate
Used*
card rotation tho, like we can flip cards on one axis can smod let us flip on the other two
True, but I'd like to compromise as little as possible, if anything, ill just straight up remove it before i change it
how so
you can rotate the other axes, no?
Its possible to have a second exe or dll or such that the game can load with your mod
feareth.
I know, and I've done that
I just don't see what it achieves in this context
From there, it could be used as a more complicated but more versatile lovely patch
Why bro 💀
lovely is plenty versatile
guys do you know why this aint working 🤔
-# That deck probably could be optimized as to how I make it work, but I have zilch ideas on improvement potentials.
one thing that would potentially be useful is patching every buffer being loaded, but glob targets are already in a lovely PR
I mean, yes absolutely for most things, but in this specific case its questionable
Quantum ranks/enhancements/editions
how?
Specifically a better one that smods
Thats the part ill have to figure out :3
you should have something in mind that needs a more powerful patcher than lovely
you tell me what that is, I can't think of anything
And thats what im tryna think of
But i dont think lovely can do this very well
Maybe
what part does lovely fail at?
Its possible
it's extremely powerful
so first think of what it can't do
and no, glob targets wouldn't help you
there isn't an issue of not being able to patch well enough
Yea ig
do tell me if you think of something, but I don't think that's the way
I'm just unsure how this would work, and to be done better than smods will be abit complicated
Hello is there anyway for me to play mod version of the game in Android phone and if so can anyone teach me how to
smods isn't having difficulty with quantum ranks because of lovely or smods limitations
it's having difficulty with quantum ranks because it's a hard problem
True
Goodbye
Ill try writing this as maybe like, a smods+lovely thing before i try anything else? Probably written more like a library than anything else
don't do it without what smods already provides, that much is for sure
But just thinking about it, I'm def realizing the issue isnt really the loader
smods holds together everything you know as ranks in smods
Mhm mhm
about 2% of it is vanilla
and you want nothing to do with the vanilla code concerning that, I should know
it's a hardcoded mess
so do work with the existing ecosystem, not against it :p
Mhmm
Also you maybe shouldn't think of smods as a loader, it's way past that
Thats fair
You pretty please make an exception for me :3
Silence
🙁 can I at least know why it's not allowed for me to discuss modding in my phone
and risk getting punished by mods? rather not. there's other places where it's allowed
Indeed
Where I would love to know where
Not happening
That is the only reason why I joined the server to know how I can mod in my phone
Find it yourself if you really want
That's why I joined the server
can't tell you but definitely don't try to find the lovely discord
#1214591552903716954 is a place where you're sure not to find it
This server has an active rule against it, so, not happening
Okay let me read Ward I want to find out a mom that works on my PC and I can stream it on my phone
because the mods of the server decided they don't want those discussions on this server
Reword it
we're on thin ice, I'm happy to answer all your questions in the lovely discord that you surely won't find if you read what I said
if you want to stream modded balatro from your pc to your phone via steam link, sure you can do that. that's the thing steam link does, is stream games from your pc to your phone
What do you mean the lovely discord is there any way that you can direct me so I can actually get the answers I want
I sent a channel link above
you totally won't find it if you follow it
#1214591552903716954 this one
you know how mr incredible helps that lady with her insurance?
can i mod balatro onto my cat?
Lol
That's you?
👀
Which mod is the one that changes the Blueprint/Brainstorm sprite to what its copying?
thank you
Number go up
fixd
Too op what if you get four invisible jokers smh
Morgan order but less useful
would you rather 1 dollar back every 5 you spent, or 10 dollar back every 50 you spent
Would you give me a dollar... Or 5 dollars?
what is that
Bizarro chaos the clown
When leaving the shop earn back 25% of money spent
So, 30 echo 7's with lucky 7 double rainbow, a 40x Joker (Whatever retriggers 7's) hooked to a 11x hanging chad will infact crash my game.
Who'd have guessed 😭
i REALLY wanna know what the score would hit but it just wont handle it
5 dollars 💸 😊
WOAGH
dont spend it all in one place tips fedora
i mean the game wont crash because of too many calculations
its probably just cryptid being cryptid
(jank)
to be expected, truly 😭
though i think i made an infinite retrigger loop if hooked works how i think it does with misprint deck so i dont think it would've ever ended anyways
i dont think retriggers work quite as expected with hook?
i forgot how exactly but i recall it being wierd
was my first time trying it so im not quite sure
i remember that at least at some point retriggers didnt trigger hook at all
hm maybe it was just the lucky 7 double rainbow mix with the other 40x joker
either way i think that's the highest amount of calculations i've managed to hit lol
was it like a proper crash with a crash log or did it hard crash to desktop
crash log the second it hit the calculating bit
ante 3 small blind 😭
thought i had them all 7's but not quite but this is what the layout was
Not me working on a sisephean task in the middle of an english class cause im 4 chapters ahead
Don't ask why i still had trib I genuinely don't know 😭
triboulet carrying 🔥
no ong they saved me
Trib doing work trust
maybe another possible cause was the fact all of these were not echo's when i went into the run and i used like 12 class cards on them
Did it crash to desktop, or did you get a log?
log, i'm not too worried about it just upset i didnt get the score number
if youre still on Steamodded version 1224c or whatever it was cryptid crashes a lot on there
also you should send the log in #⚙・modding-support
i didnt mange to copy it, would a screenshot be good enough?
sure
I mean, decent chance that the issue is just a cryptid one, no? Not like it's often in a stable state, after all
This^
Cryptid is and has always been jank
well okay but no point in not getting a solution
True
usually there is SOME fix
That happens when you anger the GOAT
yeah that's fair, doesn't make it any less frustrating but i entirely understand </3
Yeah no fair, I just mean that it might be better to drop it on the discord server in that case, hahaha
oh no i will just gonna drop a screenshot in support then leave it there pretty much
started with it, it was my exotic from the antimatter deck
ah
Are we allowed to ask where to find a certain file? A mod I'm trying to play complains about a missing end in an if statement in function.lua
I'm sure someone'll end up forwarding it if it's a notable find, haha
yeah?
That's an indication of a bad or conflicting lovely patch. Which mods are you trying to play?
Why not
Love how im going from not understanding lovely patches, to probably the most complex ine i could do
Send the crash in #⚙・modding-support and youll usually get an answer
All the files get dumped in your mods folder every time you launch btw, and source code is accessible by opening the exe with any zip opening method
I think it's called H*ntai Jokers or something like that. It's on my laptop and this is my phone
One of my college friends sent me a link to it from a forum
💀
Haha, well, I'm a little out of the loop on the state of the nsfw modding scene, but I suspect that like a lot of the mods on nexus and the likes, they're very outdated. You'll have to find the right smods version for it, and accept you can't run it with any more recent mods
i'm gone for 2 seconds what 😭
I can hear this image
C C B-flat C G G C F E C
Released November 2025
Nsfw mod, and me psuedo crashing out over not knowing lovely patches very well, then doing probably the most complex one i could
Oh so it's been a wonderful 2 seconds i've missed 😭
Yes
That's not old enough to be an issue, yeah. I'd still check compatibility and try to use the release of smods that was out during the release window.
I'd do a more specific check but I don't want to Google those mods during work hours to figure out if there's any obvious issues, hahaha
Pfff
even outside of work hours i'm not sure how keen most people would be on that
Reasonable enough
Ik I wouldn't
The end isn't missing in the file, most likely. You'd have to check the lovely patches. Fixable, but more effort
I don't know Lua
Haha, I'm an adult, I've googled worse. And I can always close my tabs if it gets too bad 😋 I assume looking at the code won't blast my screen with images though, hahaha
I think fixing it yourself will be difficult then. I'd just look into the other stuff you're running and try and make sure versions are compatible and there aren't any conflicts
Fair enough
Anyway, have I plugged #1340334060597285025 lately?
not enough
Not eno- damnit
Make or use?
I don't think I've seen or heard of anyone using the new legendaries I've added
Make
relatively easy for both
Use, absolutely not, make, still not bad
I have c++ knowledge
modding in balatro is very freeing
From pvz modding
yeah you should be fine
It's pretty easy. Only starts being difficult if your idea is already inherently difficult haha
I second this... TwT
I managed to add some pretty expansive features and weird stuff with my programming experience being some web scrapers and playing ComputerCraft in modded mc, haha. If you've programmed before it's a very low barrier to entry
Yooo!!! Computercraft player!!!
I've not seen anyone use Thanos yet, and he's been in the mod for like a month 🙁
😭
Whats he do...?
it's only 5 text boxes, 1 of which is seemingly broken ❤️
(he retriggers stuff)
Oh lord
Every superhero joker gets retriggered and gives a retrigger to another joker. Every card with a superhero enhancement retriggers and gives a retrigger to another card in your deck
any chance we'll get workshop support so people can upload mods/install them easier?
Balatro mod manager is the closest
i wouldn’t imagine so
I don't want to say there's 0% chance but I suspect it's close to it
Its a 1/1.1e307
has it been said as to why he wont or most likely wont? considering TBOI for example does it and it works quite well ;v
Just barely less than infinity
counters are a mechanic I added that's a temporary effect that can be put on a card, btw. Which I've also turned into an API mod that people don't use even though I try to convince them that counters are a great design space
so you're telling me there's a chance
I guess, but again, bmm exists
while thunk is obviously not against modding i do personally believe he is not directly supportive enough of it to set up the workshop stuff
The way all existing mods work would not be able to exist in the workshop. There's no inherent protections and the set up is very hacky. Balatro modding works based on code injection, which I don't think is something steam worskhop actually allows (Though I might be wrong on that), nor would it be easy to manage or moderate
established modding scene using lovely, if I recall correctly
Hey all. Still working on #1376362000854159471 and i thought i’d tell you my plans:
5 Jokers will be the start of a balancing and appearance of “Post-Game content”. In the future (as long as i continue this) I want to have 5 jokers be PGC.
PGC will be balanced for Ante 9-16 gameplay and will only appear starting in those antes. All rare rarity too.
I am not too familiar with the process so I wouldn't know if it's very difficult or a lot of time that needs to be invested for it, I just think it'd be nice just to run some QOL stuff I've seen in some videos etc, like seeing what your blueprint is copying by it mimicking the portrait :v
And if the methods changed, all existing mods would break to a fundamental degree that'd force everything to be rewritten from close to scratch, which would probably just kill the modding scene rather that exists
I still want it to be balanced to some degree but it’ll help to keep your endless mode runs going a bit further
modding the game is very easy, though can be a bit scary if you're not used to messing with game files. But there's generally people around that are up to guide you. And as Amo mentioned, the mod manager exists too, though it's not much easier than installing mods yourself
files scary but it is easier to mod balatro than most games
on the other side of the coin it is easier to mess up modding balatro compared to most games
that should become a bit better with zip file support, right?
probably
completely forgot I added an actual UI to this joker
probably should only show that once you're actually in the blind
It's more the fact that I am lazy and would prefer it to be integrated via workshop because It's just a couple of clicks rather than messing with the files yourself, mod managers are fine too I've used it for other games but only ever for multiplayer purposes ;v
I think workshop support would be something people would like if it was possible in a way that wouldn't be super complicated for the community, but I sadly just don't think that's in the cards
i also did not consider but yeah code injection could be a bit of a pitfall
Best case scenario I can imagine for it is something like terraria's modloader being a separate game on steam you can run if you own the game
thunk has already talked about it iirc, and he said he talked with people in the community because he wanted to support it but reached the conclusion that there wasnt a way people would be happy with
I see, good to know I appreciate the replies and what not!
I think for workshop support to work well you kind of have to realize you want your game to be modable pretty early in development.
i’m so hungry i could eat a balatro mod
honestly the biggest modding hurdle is lovely being detected as a virus
Frrrrrr
I don't think there's a way to really solve that outside of making a version of balatro that supports it from the ground up.
I really want to port some of my functionalities to Counters when I'm less pressed for time
hey guys
👂
It's been a a lot of time since I talked here but I'll let y'all know that I'm still working on my Scienceful mod
I need to adjust some stuff with the enhancements and some jokers first.
also a small sneak peek:
I don't mean to be annoying but can anyone help me figure out how to download mods from GitHub😬
Are you living by a river
no
its peak
green
🤔
click the green button
Okay no don't listen to that
Oh
Mods on github should usually have a "Releases" section somewhere on the right side where you can download the mod
In most cases github repos have releases, that's preferable way to download shit
I see
depending on the mod they might have a thing here if you scroll down after clicking that i should provide download options
WHITE MODE AHHHHHH
Why are you doing this to yourself
I clicked the latest release
doing what to myself?
Zip
Then do I have to put that somewhere?
do you have lovely yet?
Ah
please don't recommend people download mods this way
if you already have BMM, just search for mods there
true
The one I want isn't there
And I can't find a replacement
which mod exactly
Banner, probably
Yeah banner
seeing as they just posted a ss of it
Banner's not on BMM? that's wonky
yeah that surprised me too
Idk I tried searching and didn't see it
A sp, screenphoto
screenphoto
That's cool and all but what do I do now😭
we do a little trolling
does bmm have a drag a drop to install 🤔
Win+r %appdata%/Balatro/Mods
I don't think so
wow
gg idk what that means
Press
Got ts yesterday twin
Win+R
its just a faster way lol but yeah
it's also likely to cause issues with mod compatibility
you mean folder right
Yeah
yeah that's good
since you're on BMM, you can also click the green folder button to get straight into %appdata%/Balatro/Mods without Windows key + R shenanigan
it's not faster, more so a way to increase chances of mod compatibility issues. It only works if a mod aligns its main branch with their releases, which a lot of mods don't do. It's a pretty common issue that pops up when inexperienced people try to set up mods for the first time
neat
Er
What's that mean😭
Open the zip file you got. If there's only one folder in there just drop it into the mods folder
I'll try ig
if you go into the zip, drag the Banner-1.2.1 folder out of the zip, into the Mods folder
Should
yeah copy paste is fine too
As long as it ain't nested
Dunno what that means twin
If you took the folder out of the zip then it wont be nested
It shouldn't be
When the folder is inside another folder for no reason
Oh yeah it's low-key doing that
If you extract the zip then it shouldn't
Are you sure it's ACTUALLY doing that
😬😬
I'm not sure
I'll js load up balatro and pray it works
It looks like it's probably working
Also you have discord on your laptop, don't take pictures with your phone
You probably have a print screen button, and if you don't you can do Win+S
Twin
Win+shift+S sorry
rip
nwiT
yo grats
Not even Google???
And win+shift+s is default windows bullshittery, just do that from now on 😭
I ain't raise no edge sympathizer
not all laptops have print screen key
but it still works iirc
albeit limited to capturing the entire screen, obviously
That's why I said probably :/
???
win+shift+s has more options yk
Thanks noise
yw wikypedia4
But like. Just press prtscr it will have cropping
it doesn't for me lmao
I am bizarrtro bizarrtrez in the city and wikypedia in the country
Interesting
simply press PrtSc to capture the entire screen
(Elite ball knowledge required)
only if you enable prtscr to remap to windows' screenshot I think
ah, that
yea, found it
Ew copilot
Seeing as how Brainstorm has not been updated since September 2024, are there any similar mods/forks (is that the right word?) of it that are being updated/maintained and potentially have greater functionality (big ask on the last part, but no harm in at least asking and seeing what is out there 😅)?
Muscleflood
GreenNeedle
Assuming those are responses to me, I can't seem to find those mods anywhere
No idea about Saga but I shitposted 😭
is there a mod that lets you see what locked items are without unlocking them yet?
Where is fun in that?
I don't think so
dont wanna waste my time unlocking things im never gonna use
oh my god they locked the shrimp thread
why would you ever do that
that looks SO bad
careful
clams
oh
spread like fire i guess
moderation is difficult do you know how hard it is to lift a finger and press it down
i mean what if it's a really big and heavy button
like you gotta put your whole shoulder into it
to be fair
maybe someone just wanted a coffee and got confused too
i wouldve gotten confused dealing with these buttons
never heard of the shrimp thread until now but the goat is dead
yeah i think you would have to find a link to it, or a forward from there
its just in the shadow realm otherwise
i found it in the searches
it doesnt have an h in its spelling of shrimp
im just genuinely so confused
It was radioactive shrimp
usually threads get locked when like a total shitstorm happens in there
but here it was just a moderator talking about recent bans
if a moderator talks in your thread about anything, is the thread doomed for lockdown?
i really dont get it
the radioactive shrimp is true all along
radioactive shrimp
adjacent jokers become radioactive
i guess clams are better than shrimp
thats the lesson im gonna learn from this whole situation
are there any card desctruction food jokers?
what if it was kinda like Trading Card but for, say, 5 blinds
mini square fat
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1409945585988931635/1478471044019785829/image.png?ex=69a884f5&is=69a73375&hm=811e26a4696603a71e85b78a794f512c7dacf4a02edc0cabba5ec6c44e917ced&
here's some ui. what do you think each element does? what is the purpose of this menu? (gathering feedback)
ram prices are still on skyrocket
auto reroller?
ah close ^^
this is a menu for Death Note, letting you set a card to appear negative
does the layout make sense?
alright coolio ^^
ah I'll change that to say ENTER instead
I don't like the recent names buttons, makes the window look unbalanced
blue box is text input?
jokers an dconsumables buttons open collection esque pages?
hmmm
I think there are too many ways of doing the same thing
makes UI look more complicated for no extra functionality
three ways of doing the same thing, just pick the best way and make that look good imo
are you able to put elements inside of text box uis?
I feel the recent buttons are too useful to remove, what if I added tabs?
autocomplete
which way do you find yourself using most?
nah 😭 too much for Balatro ui jank
it sort of depends. for things I know how to spell, text
for things I can't spell, collection
(or for long names)
would be a fun challenge
for quickly changing between names (ie. when opening zodiac packs or rerolling), recent
id do it if I had something to use it on
would require text highlighting
how are you thinking it'd be implemented?
either a drop down like discords (or rather a drop up in their case) or having grayed out text after the search
and I've done the grayed out one with html so I vaguely know how to do that
great news, now you cant do that either, it got archived or sth, or maybe just full on deleted
i still have no idea why they did that, nuking the entire thread looks way worse than whatever happened in that thread
so confused as to why they decided to do that
hello there

the balatro community is fantastic
#1478110105185681540 message
small update to my mod :>
(minor balancing/appearance/localization stuff)
wait why is his eye open
wow idk
odd todd... what are you doing
torats
firings in a gun salute
my goat still alive
thanks google
Legal drinking age i think.
exclusively in freedom land, lower basically everywhere else
Playing Outer Wilds
im not even gonna get started
I heard so much abt the game, is it as hype as they say?
❓
outer wilds is goated yeah
I'm not far into it i got it yesterday but its pretty good so far
🦐
🦪
"freedom land" "lower [drinking age] everywhere else"
i love america, its so contradictory
🦅 🦅 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🇱🇷
I'm doing good
do you know of this thing called puzzle hunt datasets
is this too op
It’s just a temperance
but gambling.... yess...
but realistically how often is temperance actually close to $50
i wonder
in my runs? i usually get around 35-40$ temperances
do you play lategame or i am i just ass
both.
sounds about right
Hey! I sent ya a DM but I’m not sure if you got the notification for it (as in it got sent to the message requests tab). If you could take a look I would very much appreciate it, it’s somewhat urgent
@mo...oh that was quick
woah thats so cool
ULTRAbanned
I’m banned you and your ENTIRE BLOODLINE!!! FOREVER!!!!
You can appeal by sacrificing your first 7 children
unbanned when at least 7 cards are destroyed at once
Permaban Reason: I just don't like you
i feel like that's every ban reason that is not a spam bot
oop and he gone
the oligarchy continues
that's probably a leave...I hope
K, Q, or J
Preferably no more than 2 Kings
This was my previous idea
I used face cards from pareidolia
But I thought it wasn't obvious enough
Not sure why I thought of that
I think you are
Because I was talking about this
Blaze house
(a full house full of face cards)
Yeah put some Q for queens for it to show its all face cards (at least that’s what I think it means)
With a yummy planet
Tastes like a ferrero
nearly done the first 3 pages..
Thats great
Thoughts and or critisism on this joker, making a vanilla style mod.
thats a toughie, since if you're gaining chips on the joker you're likely going to get a higher score and then gain chips to get a higher score etc.
the idea is neat though
and the arts cool too
yea, it is pretty good at getting you to the mid game, not all by itself, but once you get into the mid game and you are pivoting or trying to grind money through hands it starts to fall off
i think you should at the very least lose more chips than you gain
and it should say lose +5 chips
hee hee
why loose +5 chips, that makes the card a little bit confusing no?
not really 10 - (+)5 = 5
I understand but the + might make it confusing
it doesnt really matter but it is the "standard"
This better?
10 might be a bit much, give it a test, see how it feels
It feels fine so far, tho once you go into the negatives, it can sometimes take a bit to get out if you dont have many good hands, but once you buy another joker it feels pretty balenced
maybe instead of lose +10 chips just say -10 chips or something?
please do not say lose plus number
either lose number or minus number
i beg
you should say lose + number
FYUCK
ice cream does not say lose +5 chips
no
@rose prairie never follow my advice ever again
thats bad for your health
@rose prairie always follow my advice ever again
my fucking mod is FULL of lose +number uggghhhhhhhh
😭
I made bizarrtro server but I don't feel like setting it up
Just so I can send emojis mostly
the fog has eyes
Glad to see absolutely fucking nothing has changed here.
Updated Tip-Off's art
new vs old art
youuu know it
*finger guns*
alternative reason is
I don't know the modding community at all and i didnt want to bother moderating modding channels properly, so you will go fuck yourself respectfully
respectfully
yes
🥹
Why the left guy got a squidward nose
bluffing

schlong schnozzle
yippee I can do sound now
Permahug Reason!!!!!: I just like you!!!!!
i'm so jolly
lol !!!😆 🤪 😆 😆 get off me 😆 😆 please !!😆 i cant !breathe 😆 😆
ok
k
peeping the horrors
jerma reference
How would you suggest learning Lua?
Do you have any programming experience at all
Prior to lua
If not id suggest trying to make some other simple lua programs to figure out how loops, tables, if statements, and the such work
One example that comes to mind is a program that creates a bunch of random addition questions and prompts for input
If you know how loops, if statements, and tables work, i think youll be pretty successful at starting up your own mod
If you do have programming experience, the Lua Reference Manual (which you can google) should have enough examples to give you an intuition for how Lua syntax is
Another thing is that Lua is extremely similar to Python in how types, functions, and objects are handled
Fire art
Its funny that I did that as in my next test run with it I saw the green joker and yeah
i shouldn't have said a word.
it immediately stopped working properly and broke
just realized that in cryptid you can create the pointer (gives any card of your choosing other than exotic jokers) card with itself for some reason, which puts it into your consumable slot which lets you copy it with perkeo
you can get infinite of anything you want 😭
average cryptid run
yeah i have a run where my highest hand score is ee16k
This is the joker now, any thoughts or critisism?
can too many mods cause the game to crash
the game finally crashed for the first time
not by themselves but there's a higher likelihood that two of them are not compatible in some way
why do some mods say steammodded is missing while other mods needing steammodded work fine
yes
some mods require a specific version of smods or a range of versions
because of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8HRTlkGD4Q with two or more of the mods
THE BMS OF FIGHTERS 2011 & FRENZ 2011
Compose : siromaru (https://twitter.com/siromaru460) + cranky (https://twitter.com/_cranky)
Movie : iimo (https://twitter.com/iimo)
Vocal : pico (https://twitter.com/PicoLoppy)
I don't think you should let it go negative
is steammodded updated frequently
goated song
C++ and Python
TRIPLE E'S YES
Okay you should be more than ready to tackle Lua
For the most part Lua and Python are similar
The hardest part about Lua imo is getting used to the fact that Lua doesnt have a proper array or list type, because tables are pretty much the only data type in Lua with object-like properties in terms of memory and references
Lua doesnt even have a class keyword, but Lua gimmicks allow tables to recreate the basic features of classes
Reference manual is here
https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html
10^10^(1.452x10^6)
Tables are treated as hashmaps
Ok. Good to know. Thanks
But Lua tables can be endowed with metamethods that can give them abilities beyond normal hashmaps
That wont be relevant for modding Balatro though
Unless youre doing something incredibly weird/wonky
Also while im at it
Heres the SMODS (the Balatro modding API) docs
https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki
Thank you!
Its currently incomplete but it should cover all the necessary features for making decks, jokers, stakes, blinds, and such
what does it mean when the error says a mod tried to compare a number to a table
that you should replace talisman for amulet
why is that
because it's talisman but doesn't compare number to table
does it also have animation skipping
Amulet:
Talisman but better
If I get the game speed mod mid run will my run still work? forgot to do it before starting the naninf run
It should work.
is there a way to back up runs in case it doesnt save/gets corrupted?
I’ve only now learned about this conundrum
If I am supposed to make art for myself, what will happen if I’m the only one who appreciates my own art?
yes it should be in the folder one up from the mods folder
it should be named 1/2/3 depending on the profile
What is it called when a joker updates or something and displays a little message
Kinda like
or 
message
(internal name of that feature)

is there a mod that just insta skips played hand animations?
Handy
Is there a way to enable animations? I don't have talisman on, just "All in jest"
It'd be cool if someone made sounds for -mult and ÷mult, even just reversing the sounds would be good enough for me
yeah
play my mod
also play my mod
-# play my mod too
I too am in this channel
does this joker not work? I thought it would update after every sold joker
i lost my sense of sanity while developing my mod a while ago
some forbidden knowledge wouldnt hurt
where's the discussion link for "hooking"
<@&1133519078540185692>
I forgot how to hook.
i think descending notes would work well for -mult
this a fair joker to create a challenge for?
is there a mod that lets you search for decks
there isn't
Galdur overhauls the run setup UI, making deck selection far easier, that's the closest thing
Okay so i have an interesting question. Obviously i don’t want people to start arguments or anything but what’s one mod that you can’t recommend to anyone else.
(Try and be creative)
My example. 1.B.0 of Parallel Update. Why? Because it’s not out yet
i don't recommend polterjens to people
it's famous enough without my help
got a pretty good hypnotic deck run
i can't recommend people my mod aqu because it's just bad
I can't recommend people #1340334060597285025 because it's too innovative. It'd make all other mods feel dull in comparison.
thank you Ice
What's your favorite Kino feature, Lily?
sorry i don't play Balatro i'm just a poser
it will come out
Balatro says I have 2 installations of smods but I can’t find any, how do I fix this?
Can you show your mods folder?
press Windows key + R and type %appdata%\Balatro\Mods
Thanks for the help
whoa there you can't expose the entire mod dev community just like that
how do i reinstall lovely?
replace version.dll with the new one
i mean where do i go to get a new one
remove smods zip from your Mods folder
i dont have a zipped one in there
show me your Mods folder
if you don't know where it is, this
at this point I recommend updating smods, and some other mods too
ok
its ok
its from the 24th of the 11th
last year
Isee latest version requires the latest smods so i thought maybe that was the issue
Also brainstorm is known to cause issues with smods, due to it being very outdated
ill get rid of that one then
If none of the mods has issues with it, i also recommend updating everything
https://ptb.discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1478692831370547282 shameless plug 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
latest is 1503a now
that lags too
The Scienceful mod returns from the Development grave to bring new a NEW mechanic!
Chemical cards and the mix Experimentum card!
the better chemical cards have greater effects than the standard ones but they're pretty unstable and tend to be destroyed or reset
cuz it goes hard
makes sense Ig
now I'll need to make some Experimentum booster packs and then I'll test a few things in the mod and then....
it's release public time
actually I have to give a few credits first
What mods are you running?
How it feels to tell everybody to play my mod
(Yes I stole Camostar’s joke in my server)
exactly
fortunately I dont need to do all this, you will use my mod anyway
play my mod...
we're balling 
what if I refuse

your choice
i'm just joking
still it's thanks to ur mod was able to get what I got off the ground
McBain (uncommon)
- destroy all played face cards, get $1 at the end of the round for every 2 face cards destroyed
holy shit you did a great job with Macbain's sprite!
smh my neo silver deck is breakin the game.
because it's meant to be a sequel to the unused silver deck by giving you a random consumable and a random joker.
but it just can't wrap it's head around the idea of giving out a random consumable.
hell my mod itself is breakin the shit out of the game
between certain sounds not working
and the brick block enhancement being a pain in the ass to get working again
It's safe to say I'm not fuckin touching joker forge ever again.
once the april fools release of my mod is done I'm gonna be tryna get a dev team together so I can move as far away from jokerforge as humanly possible
😭
What if playstack made a real spectral pack containing spectral cards
gl
A second resprite has hit the Aikoyori Joker.
i mean more like third
without white outline or with?
which one looks better?
(maybe without outline but I'm not sure what y'all think about rn)
I still need to make bizarro packs and inverse packs
However I am bad at making booster packs
oh, I see
Jambatro v1.5
- Fixed Joker Christmas from being shit
- Updated Braindead from being too good
(...guess it wasnt the final update after all...)
https://github.com/the-2nd-olsberg/Jambatro/releases/tag/v1.5
Why is that the color scheme
trance
my trance would be broken
Ok, so I’m in Steam
There’s a sale
I hear everybody glazing rainworld to the edges of the universe.
has any of the biggest balatro streamers figured out how to use the ace part of crash?
i don't want murphy to unknowingly use loadstring out of nowhere.
Play balatro
ok
I don't think Murphy'll willingly launch cryptid, or end up using a crash card
Wheel it
i'm just worried of one scenario
when he gets to my mod and finds the loadstring card
What does loadstring do again
If there's a card in your mod that you don't want to show on a stream, ask yourself why it's in the mod, honestly
because i thought it would be funny to give somebody free access to sandbox mode but leave them clueless on how to use it unless they learn it
My main worry is that Murphy used the wheel and it lands on a balatro mod 🤮
So why is that an issue, then?
Isn't that exactly what you intend for it to be?
What makes Murphy special in that you don't want him to use it, compared to any other player?
Mfs when the streamer doesn't play the exact way they wanted them to play:
idk, i was just worried or something
also after using the card, you also get +1 ante and inversed balance.
If you think something would be confusing or a bad look if it happens with your mod on a stream, ask yourself why you would be okay with that happening in a non-streamer's run
i forgot to add a warning.
balatro but the only hands are high card, higher card, and highest card
A warning that tells you to not use the card?
no, it's "good luck figuring out how to use it"
steven odd
2 is even number...
Yeah I guess you want to indicate that that's the goal if you don't want people to assume it's just bad design

I know what y'all are trying to do but y'all ain't even doing it right
Steven odd is the odd one and todd even is the even one
this is probably my single most powerful card in the mod if used properly.
What does it mean inversed balanced
Money i assume
negative or positive money depending on if you're in debt or not
win_game() :troll
time to learn some lua everybody
So what does it do?
Oh so you can run commands. That seems very straight forward for how obtuse you are in its description
the catch is that most players don't know yet how to code, so this is their time to learn
I mean sure
yeah i feel that this description is a bit too vague
i should release a quick fix
Does a tooltip change need a quick fix?
i released the update days ago not having changed the description.
i thought being vague about the card was gonna make it look a bit too risky for players to use.
Still not sure whether you want people to actually use jt
But also, I wouldn't worry about Murphy using it, because I can't imagine he'd do anything with it besides a print statement
insta win
win_game()
also you can do multiple commands
Running commands seems so inherently uninteresting to me that I don't know of any fun ways to even use it
the point of my mod isn't really to be sandbox mode, it's to just flex my art.
makes sense
i said that a couple times
I'm not sure I follow
but really im not a programmer, i'm an artist at heart
The goal isn't to be a sandbox mode? This card is a sandbox mode, no?
i mean it is literally equivalent to "win the run and get naneinf dollars and get literally every joker" so
Money equals vigintillion
I love money
Think of all the poverty that can be ADDED with a vigintillion dollars
programmer art vs artist code
well, i was scared somebody was gonna point out that winning would be pointless if you're just gonna use 1 card to win
I'm still not sure I follow. But that's fine
ok well, where are you going with this?
golden clip, I love it
I mean that I don't know what you mean with not being a sandbox mode in this case. But I think part of that is also that your preference is a lot more bignum than mine
RIP
the point of my mod?
with basically any mod



