#⚙・modding-general

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frozen vector
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My only thing i have to do is school and past that my time is open lmao

full edge
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Quantum ranks hasn't been implemented better than how it's done by All In Jest, and quantum enhancements are just a big hassle to properly set up, iirc, so I don't think a mod has figured out something more effective than SMODS' own implementation

lean dune
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quantum enhancements are about as good as they can be with what else we have in smods

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to do better in terms of performance, you'd most likely need to trash compat with at least some part of smods features

karmic compass
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how does quantum ranks like actually works, like mechanically behind the scene

lean dune
karmic compass
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im trying to understand what the patch is changing

frozen vector
karmic compass
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and how that changes interacts with the code that allows quantum ranks

full edge
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I assume you'd be able to improve the performance by making it less generically useful. If the only quantum enhancement you have is that specific circumstances make cards count as gold, you'd be able to make that more performant pretty well, i suspect

lean dune
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the main change needed from mods is that direct equality comparisons are unable to support that

lean dune
karmic compass
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it does look a lot of effort for effects that usually arent worth it, which is not a slight at the implementation but rather just the concept of quantum ranks tbh

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i've had silly ideas like "6s also counts as 9s and vice versa" but quickly realise it's not worth jumping through the hoop for

lean dune
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another thing is that quantum ranks actually make it harder to evaluate poker hands

wind turtle
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It doesn't lag as much if you use the file I sent you.

full edge
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I'm not too fuzzed about quantum enhancements being laggy, because I think it's a difficult design space, but quantum ranks is probably the most obvious one, as far as there being a big want goes

lean dune
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there's also just more ways for it to get out of hand than there are for enhancements

karmic compass
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combinatorics moment

lean dune
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there can be arbitrarily many ranks with an arbitrarily complex structure

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but there can also be large hands

full edge
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Yeah, for sure. I think it's a feature that's just kind of hard for SMODS to implement because SMODS needs to provide the most generic version of it. I'm sure there's smart work arounds you could do for a lot of specific designs that people have in mind, that are less of a problem to implement

storm forum
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-# Imagine trying to get "The Entire Fucking Deck" poker hand to calculate from a bunch of random cards-

karmic compass
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though adjacent ideas to that, i'd love to do "6s turns into 9s when scored and vice versa" which is silly and doable

cloud willow
karmic compass
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however my white whale is if i can figure out how to get the card to physically rotate when scored

cloud willow
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like you could set if you want it to count for poker hands or not

frozen vector
karmic compass
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that would enhance the comedy of the card tenfolds

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and i think that i'd need patches for

lean dune
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make a table mapping each available suit-rank combination to a table and insert each selected card to every bucket that it counts as

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then check if every bucket is filled

full edge
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Eh, even as an experimental feature you want to stuff to fully work, of course, even if it sacrifices performance. Though depending on how that quantum ranks PR works, maybe there might be a way to set up some methods that at least make implementing a more specific quantum rank like mechanic possible. No clue how you'd even do that, of course, so I'm just waving my hands through smoke trying to grasp at anything, haha

karmic compass
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what is quantum enhancement anyway

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like what actually does it do

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i heard the terms thrown around so much but like what does it do

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make all enhancements counts as every other enhancements?

lean dune
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at heart it's cards being able to count as having multiple enhancements

full edge
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'all cards held in hand count as steel cards if played hand contains a king' and any effect like that. 'enhanced cards have every enhancement in your deck', if you wanna consider the issues that might pop up from it, haha

lean dune
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which is implemented as asking all calculating instances for what enhancements a given card should count as when the information of what enhancements a card has is needed

frozen vector
lean dune
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which is of course imprecise, there's some caching involved because asking each time would be way too inefficient, but even that is tough to get right

full edge
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that effect is a good guarantee to basically have your mod not be able to work with a lot of others, haha. It requires enhancements to be designed with it in mind. I think in the past effects like it also were very good at dropping your fps to like 2, but maybe that's a bit better now

frozen vector
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Who said i would do it via quantum enhancements?

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I can fogure it out

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Have some faith in me ouch

full edge
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haha well if you find a better way to do it, make sure to PR it to smods 😛

frozen vector
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Ill probably be doing it as a part to my mod, but I'd be more than willing to share that and whoever wants can so the PR

lean dune
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good luck :p

karmic compass
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i mean i have faith in you but also able to recognise how sisyphean the task is

karmic compass
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you're basically at the point where you're inventing neon light tubes when everyone is using incandescent bulbs

frozen vector
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This is true...

full edge
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I've been around in this community for long enough to know that the issue with features like that isn't that the right person hasn't come around yet, haha

frozen vector
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If anything its closer to a neon light tube before electricity is around

frozen vector
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Regardless of anything

full edge
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i mean, definitely do

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best case scenario, there's a solution that's better than what's around now, and worst case scenario, you've learned stuff

frozen vector
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True

rain orbit
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Good news
You can have Bizarrtrorekoj with basically any mod

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Yippee

karmic compass
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again we wil cheer for you if you succeed but also it will completely be okay if you give up

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because everyone else did

frozen vector
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Mhm mhm

rain orbit
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What's so advanced that it won't work with a lot of other mods

frozen vector
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If i succeed, i might as well be god for it, if i fail, oh well shit happens

full edge
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I think part of it is that for a lot of designs that'd need quantum enhancements or quantum ranks, there is some alternate effect that has the same vibe but is good enough. For a lot of people that want to solve the problem not because they like the challenge, but because they want a specific idea for a joker to work out, the path of least resistance is often just adjusting the design

karmic compass
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honestly it might be revolutionary to include a secondary patching exe in your mod

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that might be what'll do it

full edge
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(I scrapped everything that needed quantum enhancements from my mod's design doc 😛 )

rain orbit
frozen vector
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I have some work with that due to making a seed scouting tool that jsed immolate

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Used*

karmic compass
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card rotation tho, like we can flip cards on one axis can smod let us flip on the other two

frozen vector
frozen vector
# lean dune how so

Its possible to have a second exe or dll or such that the game can load with your mod

lean dune
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I just don't see what it achieves in this context

frozen vector
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From there, it could be used as a more complicated but more versatile lovely patch

frozen vector
lean dune
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lovely is plenty versatile

formal orchid
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guys do you know why this aint working 🤔

storm forum
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-# That deck probably could be optimized as to how I make it work, but I have zilch ideas on improvement potentials.

lean dune
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one thing that would potentially be useful is patching every buffer being loaded, but glob targets are already in a lovely PR

frozen vector
lean dune
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so what else

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what can't lovely do that helps you here

frozen vector
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Quantum ranks/enhancements/editions

lean dune
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how?

frozen vector
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Specifically a better one that smods

frozen vector
lean dune
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you should have something in mind that needs a more powerful patcher than lovely

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you tell me what that is, I can't think of anything

frozen vector
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And thats what im tryna think of

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But i dont think lovely can do this very well

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Maybe

lean dune
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what part does lovely fail at?

frozen vector
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Its possible

lean dune
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it's extremely powerful

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so first think of what it can't do

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and no, glob targets wouldn't help you

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there isn't an issue of not being able to patch well enough

frozen vector
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Yea ig

lean dune
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do tell me if you think of something, but I don't think that's the way

frozen vector
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I'm just unsure how this would work, and to be done better than smods will be abit complicated

nimble delta
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Hello is there anyway for me to play mod version of the game in Android phone and if so can anyone teach me how to

limpid lake
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smods isn't having difficulty with quantum ranks because of lovely or smods limitations
it's having difficulty with quantum ranks because it's a hard problem

nimble delta
frozen vector
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Ill try writing this as maybe like, a smods+lovely thing before i try anything else? Probably written more like a library than anything else

lean dune
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don't do it without what smods already provides, that much is for sure

frozen vector
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But just thinking about it, I'm def realizing the issue isnt really the loader

lean dune
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smods holds together everything you know as ranks in smods

lean dune
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about 2% of it is vanilla

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and you want nothing to do with the vanilla code concerning that, I should know

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it's a hardcoded mess

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so do work with the existing ecosystem, not against it :p

frozen vector
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Mhmm

lean dune
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Also you maybe shouldn't think of smods as a loader, it's way past that

frozen vector
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Thats fair

nimble delta
frozen vector
nimble delta
frozen vector
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Or ralk about actual pc modeing

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Modding*

lean dune
frozen vector
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Indeed

nimble delta
frozen vector
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Not happening

nimble delta
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That is the only reason why I joined the server to know how I can mod in my phone

frozen vector
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Find it yourself if you really want

nimble delta
lean dune
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can't tell you but definitely don't try to find the lovely discord

frozen vector
nimble delta
limpid lake
nimble delta
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Reword it

lean dune
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we're on thin ice, I'm happy to answer all your questions in the lovely discord that you surely won't find if you read what I said

limpid lake
nimble delta
lean dune
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you totally won't find it if you follow it

limpid lake
neon urchin
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can i mod balatro onto my cat?

winged prism
neon urchin
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👀

bold wagon
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Which mod is the one that changes the Blueprint/Brainstorm sprite to what its copying?

wanton rapids
bold wagon
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thank you

wind token
frozen vector
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Number go up

wind token
cold rose
rain orbit
karmic compass
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would you rather 1 dollar back every 5 you spent, or 10 dollar back every 50 you spent

winged prism
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Would you give me a dollar... Or 5 dollars?

wind token
rain orbit
quartz marlin
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So, 30 echo 7's with lucky 7 double rainbow, a 40x Joker (Whatever retriggers 7's) hooked to a 11x hanging chad will infact crash my game.

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Who'd have guessed 😭

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i REALLY wanna know what the score would hit but it just wont handle it

neon urchin
winged prism
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WOAGH

neon urchin
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dont spend it all in one place tips fedora

woven crag
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its probably just cryptid being cryptid

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(jank)

quartz marlin
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though i think i made an infinite retrigger loop if hooked works how i think it does with misprint deck so i dont think it would've ever ended anyways

woven crag
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i dont think retriggers work quite as expected with hook?

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i forgot how exactly but i recall it being wierd

quartz marlin
woven crag
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i remember that at least at some point retriggers didnt trigger hook at all

quartz marlin
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hm maybe it was just the lucky 7 double rainbow mix with the other 40x joker

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either way i think that's the highest amount of calculations i've managed to hit lol

woven crag
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was it like a proper crash with a crash log or did it hard crash to desktop

quartz marlin
woven crag
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i see

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actually were you going against the scorch boss blind by any chance

quartz marlin
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ante 3 small blind 😭

woven crag
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ah

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the scorch just always crashes for whatever reason so thats why im asking

quartz marlin
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thought i had them all 7's but not quite but this is what the layout was

frozen vector
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Not me working on a sisephean task in the middle of an english class cause im 4 chapters ahead

quartz marlin
woven crag
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triboulet carrying 🔥

quartz marlin
frozen vector
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Trib doing work trust

quartz marlin
full edge
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Did it crash to desktop, or did you get a log?

quartz marlin
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log, i'm not too worried about it just upset i didnt get the score number

woven crag
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if youre still on Steamodded version 1224c or whatever it was cryptid crashes a lot on there

quartz marlin
woven crag
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sure

full edge
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I mean, decent chance that the issue is just a cryptid one, no? Not like it's often in a stable state, after all

frozen vector
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Cryptid is and has always been jank

woven crag
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well okay but no point in not getting a solution

frozen vector
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True

woven crag
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usually there is SOME fix

proven aurora
quartz marlin
full edge
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Yeah no fair, I just mean that it might be better to drop it on the discord server in that case, hahaha

woven crag
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did you like

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JUST get scalae

quartz marlin
woven crag
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because i forget if scalae is broken or not

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as in code wise

quartz marlin
woven crag
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ah

proven aurora
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Are we allowed to ask where to find a certain file? A mod I'm trying to play complains about a missing end in an if statement in function.lua

full edge
full edge
woven crag
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Why not

frozen vector
woven crag
full edge
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All the files get dumped in your mods folder every time you launch btw, and source code is accessible by opening the exe with any zip opening method

proven aurora
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One of my college friends sent me a link to it from a forum

frozen vector
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💀

full edge
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Haha, well, I'm a little out of the loop on the state of the nsfw modding scene, but I suspect that like a lot of the mods on nexus and the likes, they're very outdated. You'll have to find the right smods version for it, and accept you can't run it with any more recent mods

quartz marlin
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i'm gone for 2 seconds what 😭

fossil bough
proven aurora
frozen vector
quartz marlin
frozen vector
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Yes

full edge
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I'd do a more specific check but I don't want to Google those mods during work hours to figure out if there's any obvious issues, hahaha

frozen vector
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Pfff

proven aurora
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I was thinking of going into that file and put the end in myself

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I have Notepad++

quartz marlin
full edge
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The end isn't missing in the file, most likely. You'd have to check the lovely patches. Fixable, but more effort

proven aurora
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I don't know Lua

full edge
full edge
# proven aurora I don't know Lua

I think fixing it yourself will be difficult then. I'd just look into the other stuff you're running and try and make sure versions are compatible and there aren't any conflicts

full edge
woven orchid
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not enough

frozen vector
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Not eno- damnit

spare flame
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Is it easy to mod this game

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Lowk

frozen vector
full edge
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I don't think I've seen or heard of anyone using the new legendaries I've added

spare flame
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Make

woven orchid
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relatively easy for both

frozen vector
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Use, absolutely not, make, still not bad

spare flame
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I have c++ knowledge

woven orchid
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modding in balatro is very freeing

spare flame
woven orchid
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yeah you should be fine

full edge
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It's pretty easy. Only starts being difficult if your idea is already inherently difficult haha

full edge
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I managed to add some pretty expansive features and weird stuff with my programming experience being some web scrapers and playing ComputerCraft in modded mc, haha. If you've programmed before it's a very low barrier to entry

frozen vector
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Yooo!!! Computercraft player!!!

full edge
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I've not seen anyone use Thanos yet, and he's been in the mod for like a month 🙁

trail berry
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😭

full edge
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(he retriggers stuff)

frozen vector
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Oh lord

full edge
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Every superhero joker gets retriggered and gives a retrigger to another joker. Every card with a superhero enhancement retriggers and gives a retrigger to another card in your deck

vapid silo
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any chance we'll get workshop support so people can upload mods/install them easier?

frozen vector
woven orchid
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i wouldn’t imagine so

full edge
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I don't want to say there's 0% chance but I suspect it's close to it

frozen vector
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Its a 1/1.1e307

vapid silo
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has it been said as to why he wont or most likely wont? considering TBOI for example does it and it works quite well ;v

frozen vector
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Just barely less than infinity

full edge
dusty token
frozen vector
woven orchid
full edge
tranquil vessel
hardy brook
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Hey all. Still working on #1376362000854159471 and i thought i’d tell you my plans:

5 Jokers will be the start of a balancing and appearance of “Post-Game content”. In the future (as long as i continue this) I want to have 5 jokers be PGC.

PGC will be balanced for Ante 9-16 gameplay and will only appear starting in those antes. All rare rarity too.

vapid silo
full edge
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And if the methods changed, all existing mods would break to a fundamental degree that'd force everything to be rewritten from close to scratch, which would probably just kill the modding scene rather that exists

hardy brook
full edge
woven orchid
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files scary but it is easier to mod balatro than most games

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on the other side of the coin it is easier to mess up modding balatro compared to most games

tranquil vessel
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that should become a bit better with zip file support, right?

woven orchid
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probably

full edge
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completely forgot I added an actual UI to this joker

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probably should only show that once you're actually in the blind

vapid silo
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It's more the fact that I am lazy and would prefer it to be integrated via workshop because It's just a couple of clicks rather than messing with the files yourself, mod managers are fine too I've used it for other games but only ever for multiplayer purposes ;v

full edge
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I think workshop support would be something people would like if it was possible in a way that wouldn't be super complicated for the community, but I sadly just don't think that's in the cards

woven orchid
full edge
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Best case scenario I can imagine for it is something like terraria's modloader being a separate game on steam you can run if you own the game

normal hollow
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thunk has already talked about it iirc, and he said he talked with people in the community because he wanted to support it but reached the conclusion that there wasnt a way people would be happy with

vapid silo
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I see, good to know I appreciate the replies and what not!

full edge
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I think for workshop support to work well you kind of have to realize you want your game to be modable pretty early in development.

woven orchid
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i’m so hungry i could eat a balatro mod

normal hollow
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honestly the biggest modding hurdle is lovely being detected as a virus

full edge
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I don't think there's a way to really solve that outside of making a version of balatro that supports it from the ground up.

upbeat kayak
unborn plover
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hey guys

winged prism
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👂

unborn plover
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It's been a a lot of time since I talked here but I'll let y'all know that I'm still working on my Scienceful mod
I need to adjust some stuff with the enhancements and some jokers first.

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also a small sneak peek:

spare geyser
barren vigil
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thats crazy

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and epic

noble kernel
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I don't mean to be annoying but can anyone help me figure out how to download mods from GitHub😬

winged prism
spare geyser
formal orchid
winged prism
noble kernel
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Lowk got me confused

barren vigil
winged prism
noble kernel
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Oh

barren vigil
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download as zip

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extract from zip

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put folder in Mods

tranquil vessel
winged prism
# noble kernel Oh

In most cases github repos have releases, that's preferable way to download shit

noble kernel
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I see

spare geyser
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depending on the mod they might have a thing here if you scroll down after clicking that i should provide download options

barren vigil
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WHITE MODE AHHHHHH

winged prism
noble kernel
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I clicked the latest release

spare geyser
noble kernel
winged prism
noble kernel
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Then do I have to put that somewhere?

tranquil vessel
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do you have lovely yet?

noble kernel
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Idk

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I have the balatro mod manager

tranquil vessel
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Ah

full edge
toxic cloud
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if you already have BMM, just search for mods there

spare geyser
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true

noble kernel
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And I can't find a replacement

toxic cloud
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which mod exactly

tranquil vessel
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Banner, probably

noble kernel
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Yeah banner

tranquil vessel
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seeing as they just posted a ss of it

toxic cloud
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Banner's not on BMM? that's wonky

tranquil vessel
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yeah that surprised me too

noble kernel
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Idk I tried searching and didn't see it

winged prism
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A sp, screenphoto

toxic cloud
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screenphoto

noble kernel
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That's cool and all but what do I do now😭

tranquil vessel
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we do a little trolling

dusty token
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does bmm have a drag a drop to install 🤔

winged prism
tranquil vessel
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I don't think so

dusty token
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wow

noble kernel
winged prism
noble kernel
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Got ts yesterday twin

winged prism
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Win+R

barren vigil
winged prism
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The button with a windows icon

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And R

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Together

tranquil vessel
noble kernel
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Okay

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Yuh

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I see a file called lovely

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Is that useful

tranquil vessel
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you mean folder right

noble kernel
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Yeah

tranquil vessel
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yeah that's good

winged prism
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Extract the zip into the mod folder if you opened it

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That should be iit

toxic cloud
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since you're on BMM, you can also click the green folder button to get straight into %appdata%/Balatro/Mods without Windows key + R shenanigan

full edge
# barren vigil its just a faster way lol but yeah

it's not faster, more so a way to increase chances of mod compatibility issues. It only works if a mod aligns its main branch with their releases, which a lot of mods don't do. It's a pretty common issue that pops up when inexperienced people try to set up mods for the first time

noble kernel
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What's that mean😭

winged prism
# noble kernel Er

Open the zip file you got. If there's only one folder in there just drop it into the mods folder

noble kernel
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I'll try ig

tranquil vessel
noble kernel
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I copy and pasted the folder into the mods section

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Will that work

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😭

winged prism
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Should

tranquil vessel
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yeah copy paste is fine too

rain orbit
noble kernel
woven crag
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If you took the folder out of the zip then it wont be nested

winged prism
rain orbit
noble kernel
rain orbit
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If you extract the zip then it shouldn't

winged prism
noble kernel
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I'm not sure

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I'll js load up balatro and pray it works

rain orbit
noble kernel
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It looks like it's probably working

winged prism
# noble kernel 😬😬

Also you have discord on your laptop, don't take pictures with your phone
You probably have a print screen button, and if you don't you can do Win+S

noble kernel
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Twin

winged prism
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Win+shift+S sorry

noble kernel
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This is my first ever laptop and I got it yesterday

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😭

toxic cloud
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rip

rain orbit
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nwiT

noble kernel
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Literally all I have is steam and balatro

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And discord

tranquil vessel
rain orbit
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Not even Google???

noble kernel
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No google

winged prism
rain orbit
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I ain't raise no edge sympathizer

toxic cloud
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not all laptops have print screen key

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but it still works iirc

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albeit limited to capturing the entire screen, obviously

winged prism
dusty token
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win+prtscr captures the whole screen

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win+shift+s selects area

toxic cloud
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win+shift+s has more options yk

rain orbit
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Thanks noise

dusty token
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yw wikypedia4

winged prism
dusty token
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🤷‍♂️

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whatever

toxic cloud
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it doesn't for me lmao

rain orbit
winged prism
toxic cloud
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simply press PrtSc to capture the entire screen

rain orbit
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(Elite ball knowledge required)

tranquil vessel
toxic cloud
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ah, that

winged prism
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Maybe ig

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Don't recollect doing that but this head is full of holes

toxic cloud
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yea, found it

rain orbit
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Ew copilot

toxic cloud
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I don't even use that

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left it on default

rain orbit
balmy lily
tall temple
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Seeing as how Brainstorm has not been updated since September 2024, are there any similar mods/forks (is that the right word?) of it that are being updated/maintained and potentially have greater functionality (big ask on the last part, but no harm in at least asking and seeing what is out there 😅)?

winged prism
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Muscleflood

toxic cloud
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GreenNeedle

rain orbit
tall temple
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Assuming those are responses to me, I can't seem to find those mods anywhere

winged prism
open linden
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is there a mod that lets you see what locked items are without unlocking them yet?

winged prism
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Where is fun in that?
I don't think so

open linden
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dont wanna waste my time unlocking things im never gonna use

tall temple
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😅

eternal portal
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oh my god they locked the shrimp thread

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why would you ever do that

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that looks SO bad

formal orchid
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careful

dusty token
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where did you know that

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clams?

woven crag
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clams

dusty token
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oh

eternal portal
dusty token
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spread like fire i guess

woven crag
#

Moderation is extremely difficult

#

Guys

drowsy parrot
#

moderation is difficult do you know how hard it is to lift a finger and press it down

eternal portal
#

i mean what if it's a really big and heavy button

#

like you gotta put your whole shoulder into it

#

to be fair

formal orchid
#

the big red button that glows

#

which solves all your moderation issues

eternal portal
#

maybe someone just wanted a coffee and got confused too

#

i wouldve gotten confused dealing with these buttons

trail berry
#

never heard of the shrimp thread until now but the goat is dead

sick matrix
#

oh nvm

eternal portal
#

yeah i think you would have to find a link to it, or a forward from there

#

its just in the shadow realm otherwise

sick matrix
#

it doesnt have an h in its spelling of shrimp

eternal portal
#

im just genuinely so confused

neon orchid
#

It was radioactive shrimp

eternal portal
#

usually threads get locked when like a total shitstorm happens in there

#

but here it was just a moderator talking about recent bans

#

if a moderator talks in your thread about anything, is the thread doomed for lockdown?

#

i really dont get it

dusty token
#

radioactive shrimp

adjacent jokers become radioactive

eternal portal
#

i guess clams are better than shrimp

#

thats the lesson im gonna learn from this whole situation

eternal portal
#

what woulkd a shripe joker do

#

surely a food joker right?

balmy lily
#

either a summon or food joker

#

summon as in its spawned from another joker

eternal portal
#

are there any card desctruction food jokers?

#

what if it was kinda like Trading Card but for, say, 5 blinds

ember flicker
#

mini square fat

rain orbit
stable juniper
dusty token
west hill
#

auto reroller?

stable juniper
#

ah close ^^

#

this is a menu for Death Note, letting you set a card to appear negative

#

does the layout make sense?

dusty token
#

i probably know what each element does

#

idk what it does

#

the set thing

stable juniper
#

alright coolio ^^

stable juniper
west hill
#

I don't like the recent names buttons, makes the window look unbalanced

#

blue box is text input?

#

jokers an dconsumables buttons open collection esque pages?

#

hmmm

#

I think there are too many ways of doing the same thing

#

makes UI look more complicated for no extra functionality

stable juniper
#

ah kay

#

I see what you mean

west hill
#

three ways of doing the same thing, just pick the best way and make that look good imo

cloud willow
#

are you able to put elements inside of text box uis?

stable juniper
west hill
#

which way do you find yourself using most?

stable juniper
stable juniper
#

for things I can't spell, collection

#

(or for long names)

cloud willow
stable juniper
#

for quickly changing between names (ie. when opening zodiac packs or rerolling), recent

cloud willow
#

id do it if I had something to use it on

stable juniper
cloud willow
#

how so?

#

I cant think of why it would

stable juniper
#

how are you thinking it'd be implemented?

cloud willow
#

either a drop down like discords (or rather a drop up in their case) or having grayed out text after the search

stable juniper
#

oh I see

#

makes sense

#

(brb btw)

cloud willow
#

and I've done the grayed out one with html so I vaguely know how to do that

eternal portal
sick matrix
#

damn

#

L

eternal portal
#

i still have no idea why they did that, nuking the entire thread looks way worse than whatever happened in that thread

#

so confused as to why they decided to do that

formal orchid
#

hello there

copper loom
eternal portal
#

two of them

#

thats how many there are

long hare
#

the balatro community is fantastic

lament talon
#

(minor balancing/appearance/localization stuff)

distant badge
formal orchid
#

wow idk

distant badge
#

odd todd... what are you doing

long hare
#

uhhh i need ideas

#

can someone tell something that there are 21 of

#

except tarots

lean dune
#

torats

full edge
formal orchid
#

my goat still alive

long hare
fickle elbow
eternal portal
whole hatch
#

Wassup twins

#

how yall doin

fickle elbow
#

Playing Outer Wilds

eternal portal
#

im not even gonna get started

whole hatch
whole hatch
eternal portal
#

outer wilds is goated yeah

fickle elbow
dusty token
#

🦐

eternal portal
long hare
#

i love america, its so contradictory

eternal portal
#

🦅 🦅 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🇱🇷

unkempt current
knotty urchin
#

does anyone use the project moon mod

#

if they do can you tell me how to gte

#

get*

karmic compass
loud pulsar
#

is this too op

neon orchid
loud pulsar
#

but gambling.... yess...

#

but realistically how often is temperance actually close to $50

formal orchid
#

i wonder

frozen vector
loud pulsar
frozen vector
#

both.

loud pulsar
#

blueprint sounds about right

exotic belfry
# whole hatch how yall doin

Hey! I sent ya a DM but I’m not sure if you got the notification for it (as in it got sent to the message requests tab). If you could take a look I would very much appreciate it, it’s somewhat urgent

ancient sinew
#

@mo...oh that was quick

eternal portal
#

woah thats so cool

neon orchid
#

ULTRAbanned
I’m banned you and your ENTIRE BLOODLINE!!! FOREVER!!!!
You can appeal by sacrificing your first 7 children

eternal portal
#

unbanned when at least 7 cards are destroyed at once

long hare
#

Permaban Reason: I just don't like you
i feel like that's every ban reason that is not a spam bot

#

oop and he gone

#

the oligarchy continues

ancient sinew
#

that's probably a leave...I hope

unkempt current
#

How do I represent a full house of face cards on planets??

#

help I'm lost

neon orchid
#

Preferably no more than 2 Kings

unkempt current
#

And Q

neon orchid
#

Any combination

#

Though I like jacks

unkempt current
#

This was my previous idea
I used face cards from pareidolia
But I thought it wasn't obvious enough

#

Not sure why I thought of that

unkempt current
#

Do I just put the letter K

neon orchid
#

Do QKQKQ

#

unless I’m misunderstanding

unkempt current
neon orchid
#

Yeah that’ll do

#

What’s the hand again

#

Maybe that’ll help

unkempt current
neon orchid
#

Yeah put some Q for queens for it to show its all face cards (at least that’s what I think it means)

unkempt current
#

With a yummy planet

neon orchid
tardy sigil
#

nearly done the first 3 pages..

unborn plover
#

Holy shit

#

nice

#

very nice!

rose prairie
#

Thoughts and or critisism on this joker, making a vanilla style mod.

tardy sigil
#

thats a toughie, since if you're gaining chips on the joker you're likely going to get a higher score and then gain chips to get a higher score etc.

#

the idea is neat though

#

and the arts cool too

rose prairie
tardy sigil
#

i think you should at the very least lose more chips than you gain

#

and it should say lose +5 chips

#

hee hee

rose prairie
#

why loose +5 chips, that makes the card a little bit confusing no?

tardy sigil
#

not really 10 - (+)5 = 5

rose prairie
#

I understand but the + might make it confusing

tardy sigil
#

it doesnt really matter but it is the "standard"

tardy sigil
#

10 might be a bit much, give it a test, see how it feels

rose prairie
#

It feels fine so far, tho once you go into the negatives, it can sometimes take a bit to get out if you dont have many good hands, but once you buy another joker it feels pretty balenced

eternal portal
#

please do not say lose plus number

#

either lose number or minus number

#

i beg

tardy sigil
#

you should say lose + number

eternal portal
tardy sigil
#

FYUCK

eternal portal
#

ice cream does not say lose +5 chips

tardy sigil
#

killing myself right now

#

fuckkkk

spare token
tardy sigil
#

@rose prairie never follow my advice ever again

spare token
eternal portal
#

@rose prairie always follow my advice ever again

tardy sigil
#

my fucking mod is FULL of lose +number uggghhhhhhhh

eternal portal
#

😭

tardy sigil
eternal portal
bitter peak
rain orbit
#

I made bizarrtro server but I don't feel like setting it up

#

Just so I can send emojis mostly

neon urchin
#

the fog has eyes

frigid furnace
#

Glad to see absolutely fucking nothing has changed here.

wind token
#

Updated Tip-Off's art
new vs old art

eternal portal
#

*finger guns*

wind token
ember flicker
frigid furnace
#

respectfully

ember flicker
#

yes

neon urchin
#

🥹

rain orbit
wind token
rain orbit
neon urchin
#

schlong schnozzle

cloud willow
past lava
neon urchin
#

lol !!!😆 🤪 😆 😆 get off me 😆 😆 please !!😆 i cant !breathe 😆 😆

latent crescent
#

ok

neon urchin
#

k

past lava
#

long hare
frozen vector
#

So uhhm, remember my sisephean task guys...?

#

I think it might be working out

past lava
proven aurora
#

How would you suggest learning Lua?

main path
#

Prior to lua

#

If not id suggest trying to make some other simple lua programs to figure out how loops, tables, if statements, and the such work

#

One example that comes to mind is a program that creates a bunch of random addition questions and prompts for input
If you know how loops, if statements, and tables work, i think youll be pretty successful at starting up your own mod

#

If you do have programming experience, the Lua Reference Manual (which you can google) should have enough examples to give you an intuition for how Lua syntax is

#

Another thing is that Lua is extremely similar to Python in how types, functions, and objects are handled

rose prairie
rose prairie
frozen vector
#

it immediately stopped working properly and broke

long hare
dapper root
#

just realized that in cryptid you can create the pointer (gives any card of your choosing other than exotic jokers) card with itself for some reason, which puts it into your consumable slot which lets you copy it with perkeo

#

you can get infinite of anything you want 😭

dense egret
dapper root
#

yeah i have a run where my highest hand score is ee16k

rose prairie
#

This is the joker now, any thoughts or critisism?

normal hollow
#

this is the joker now, feel old yet?

#

i dont like win more jokers tbh

fair stag
#

can too many mods cause the game to crash

dapper root
normal hollow
toxic cloud
#

I think Sagatro is starting to get invasive now

#

might conflict with AikoShen

fair stag
#

why do some mods say steammodded is missing while other mods needing steammodded work fine

balmy lily
forest knoll
balmy lily
toxic cloud
fair stag
#

is steammodded updated frequently

normal hollow
#

every two months or so

#

although we just got a hotfix

proven aurora
dapper root
#

TRIPLE E'S YES

main path
# proven aurora C++ and Python

Okay you should be more than ready to tackle Lua
For the most part Lua and Python are similar
The hardest part about Lua imo is getting used to the fact that Lua doesnt have a proper array or list type, because tables are pretty much the only data type in Lua with object-like properties in terms of memory and references
Lua doesnt even have a class keyword, but Lua gimmicks allow tables to recreate the basic features of classes
Reference manual is here
https://www.lua.org/pil/contents.html

proven aurora
main path
#

Tables are treated as hashmaps

proven aurora
#

Ok. Good to know. Thanks

main path
#

But Lua tables can be endowed with metamethods that can give them abilities beyond normal hashmaps

#

That wont be relevant for modding Balatro though

#

Unless youre doing something incredibly weird/wonky

main path
proven aurora
#

Thank you!

main path
#

Its currently incomplete but it should cover all the necessary features for making decks, jokers, stakes, blinds, and such

fair stag
#

what does it mean when the error says a mod tried to compare a number to a table

normal hollow
fair stag
#

why is that

normal hollow
#

because it's talisman but doesn't compare number to table

fair stag
#

does it also have animation skipping

normal hollow
#

yes, its talisman

azure dagger
tawdry apex
#

If I get the game speed mod mid run will my run still work? forgot to do it before starting the naninf run

tawdry apex
#

is there a way to back up runs in case it doesnt save/gets corrupted?

frigid mica
#

I’ve only now learned about this conundrum

#

If I am supposed to make art for myself, what will happen if I’m the only one who appreciates my own art?

normal hollow
#

it should be named 1/2/3 depending on the profile

rain orbit
#

What is it called when a joker updates or something and displays a little message

#

Kinda like again or nope

stable juniper
#

(internal name of that feature)

rain orbit
tawdry apex
#

is there a mod that just insta skips played hand animations?

formal orchid
#

Handy

rare schooner
#

Is there a way to enable animations? I don't have talisman on, just "All in jest"

rain orbit
#

It'd be cool if someone made sounds for -mult and ÷mult, even just reversing the sounds would be good enough for me

neon urchin
#

yeah

formal orchid
#

play my mod

toxic cloud
#

also play my mod

unkempt current
#

-# play my mod too

winged prism
#

I too am in this channel

rare schooner
#

does this joker not work? I thought it would update after every sold joker

main path
#

Scrolling UI

toxic cloud
#

noice

#

I mean, that belongs to the forbidden knowledge

main path
#

i lost my sense of sanity while developing my mod a while ago
some forbidden knowledge wouldnt hurt

frigid mica
#

where's the discussion link for "hooking"

#

<@&1133519078540185692>

#

I forgot how to hook.

toxic cloud
#
GitHub

Contribute to nh6574/VanillaRemade development by creating an account on GitHub.

rancid nexus
#

this a fair joker to create a challenge for?

fair stag
#

is there a mod that lets you search for decks

toxic cloud
#

there isn't
Galdur overhauls the run setup UI, making deck selection far easier, that's the closest thing

hardy brook
#

Okay so i have an interesting question. Obviously i don’t want people to start arguments or anything but what’s one mod that you can’t recommend to anyone else.

(Try and be creative)

#

My example. 1.B.0 of Parallel Update. Why? Because it’s not out yet

limpid lake
#

i don't recommend polterjens to people
it's famous enough without my help

lament talon
#

got a pretty good hypnotic deck run

woven orchid
toxic cloud
#

man

full edge
#

I can't recommend people #1340334060597285025 because it's too innovative. It'd make all other mods feel dull in comparison.

woven orchid
#

thank you Ice

full edge
#

What's your favorite Kino feature, Lily?

woven orchid
#

sorry i don't play Balatro i'm just a poser

full edge
#

Damn

#

Caught in the act

#

When are you dropping Valk2rri?

woven orchid
#

it will come out

celest copper
#

Balatro says I have 2 installations of smods but I can’t find any, how do I fix this?

celest copper
#

Where do I find that? It’s been a while since I’ve don’t this

toxic cloud
#

press Windows key + R and type %appdata%\Balatro\Mods

celest copper
#

Thanks for the help

lean dune
celest copper
#

how do i reinstall lovely?

toxic cloud
#

replace version.dll with the new one

celest copper
#

i mean where do i go to get a new one

toxic cloud
celest copper
#

thanks

#

How do I fix this error?

toxic cloud
#

remove smods zip from your Mods folder

celest copper
#

i dont have a zipped one in there

toxic cloud
#

show me your Mods folder

toxic cloud
celest copper
toxic cloud
#

at this point I recommend updating smods, and some other mods too

celest copper
#

ok

formal orchid
#

also thanku for playing it

celest copper
#

its ok

celest copper
#

last year

formal orchid
#

Isee latest version requires the latest smods so i thought maybe that was the issue

#

Also brainstorm is known to cause issues with smods, due to it being very outdated

celest copper
#

ill get rid of that one then

formal orchid
#

If none of the mods has issues with it, i also recommend updating everything

celest copper
#

ok

#

I updated smods and now the error is different so I’ll just update everything

vernal cedar
unkempt current
#

i discovered that the latest smods release (1503) eats my fps

#

yay!

toxic cloud
#

latest is 1503a now

unkempt current
#

that lags too

toxic cloud
#

is quantum enhancement enabled on your side

#

that's known to impact performance

unborn plover
#

The Scienceful mod returns from the Development grave to bring new a NEW mechanic!
Chemical cards and the mix Experimentum card!

#

the better chemical cards have greater effects than the standard ones but they're pretty unstable and tend to be destroyed or reset

toxic cloud
#

bold music choice for the clip there

#

why CI5 boss theme

unborn plover
#

cuz it goes hard

toxic cloud
#

makes sense Ig

unborn plover
#

now I'll need to make some Experimentum booster packs and then I'll test a few things in the mod and then....
it's release public time

#

actually I have to give a few credits first

west hill
frigid mica
#

How it feels to tell everybody to play my mod

#

(Yes I stole Camostar’s joke in my server)

latent crescent
#

exactly

spiral blade
#

I can't wait to be the sameway

#

soon™

latent crescent
#

fortunately I dont need to do all this, you will use my mod anyway

formal orchid
#

play my mod...

toxic cloud
#

we're balling oyes

latent crescent
#

your choice

spiral blade
#

i'm just joking

#

still it's thanks to ur mod was able to get what I got off the ground

tardy sigil
#

McBain (uncommon)

  • destroy all played face cards, get $1 at the end of the round for every 2 face cards destroyed
unborn plover
#

holy shit you did a great job with Macbain's sprite!

granite forum
#

everything going smooth

#

my favoritre

cloud willow
#

hmm what else should I do with sounds

ornate bone
#

smh my neo silver deck is breakin the game.

#

because it's meant to be a sequel to the unused silver deck by giving you a random consumable and a random joker.

#

but it just can't wrap it's head around the idea of giving out a random consumable.

#

hell my mod itself is breakin the shit out of the game

#

between certain sounds not working

#

and the brick block enhancement being a pain in the ass to get working again

#

It's safe to say I'm not fuckin touching joker forge ever again.

#

once the april fools release of my mod is done I'm gonna be tryna get a dev team together so I can move as far away from jokerforge as humanly possible

winged prism
#

😭

frigid mica
#

What if playstack made a real spectral pack containing spectral cards

tardy sigil
#

MADE SANTA JOKER WORK FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!

hard plank
strong obsidian
hard plank
#

i mean more like third

unborn plover
#

without white outline or with?

#

which one looks better?

#

(maybe without outline but I'm not sure what y'all think about rn)

rain orbit
#

I still need to make bizarro packs and inverse packs

#

However I am bad at making booster packs

unborn plover
#

oh, I see

tardy sigil
wanton surge
#

sorry what

#

right...

#

😭

#

What on earth?

neon orchid
#

Why is that the color scheme

wanton rapids
#

trance

neon orchid
#

my trance would be broken

frigid mica
#

Ok, so I’m in Steam

#

There’s a sale

#

I hear everybody glazing rainworld to the edges of the universe.

wanton surge
#

ok so I apparently banned all of the other hands

#

which is funny

frigid mica
#

has any of the biggest balatro streamers figured out how to use the ace part of crash?

#

i don't want murphy to unknowingly use loadstring out of nowhere.

frigid mica
#

ok

full edge
rain orbit
#

Murphy should play bizarrtro

full edge
#

Wheel it

frigid mica
#

when he gets to my mod and finds the loadstring card

rain orbit
#

What does loadstring do again

full edge
#

If there's a card in your mod that you don't want to show on a stream, ask yourself why it's in the mod, honestly

frigid mica
full edge
#

My main worry is that Murphy used the wheel and it lands on a balatro mod 🤮

full edge
#

Isn't that exactly what you intend for it to be?

frigid mica
#

i-...

#

yeah...

full edge
#

What makes Murphy special in that you don't want him to use it, compared to any other player?

rain orbit
#

Mfs when the streamer doesn't play the exact way they wanted them to play:

frigid mica
#

idk, i was just worried or something

#

also after using the card, you also get +1 ante and inversed balance.

full edge
#

If you think something would be confusing or a bad look if it happens with your mod on a stream, ask yourself why you would be okay with that happening in a non-streamer's run

frigid mica
#

i forgot to add a warning.

karmic compass
#

balatro but the only hands are high card, higher card, and highest card

full edge
frigid mica
rain orbit
frigid mica
#

67% votes on Even Steven we stay on top

rain orbit
#

It says to pick 2

frigid mica
#

steven odd

polar oyster
#

2 is even number...

full edge
rain orbit
rain orbit
# rain orbit

I know what y'all are trying to do but y'all ain't even doing it right

#

Steven odd is the odd one and todd even is the even one

frigid mica
#

this is probably my single most powerful card in the mod if used properly.

rain orbit
#

What does it mean inversed balanced

woven crag
#

Money i assume

frigid mica
#

negative or positive money depending on if you're in debt or not

frigid mica
#

time to learn some lua everybody

full edge
#

So what does it do?

frigid mica
#

also the debuffs

full edge
#

Oh so you can run commands. That seems very straight forward for how obtuse you are in its description

frigid mica
#

the catch is that most players don't know yet how to code, so this is their time to learn

full edge
#

I mean sure

wanton rapids
#

yeah i feel that this description is a bit too vague

frigid mica
#

i should release a quick fix

full edge
#

Does a tooltip change need a quick fix?

frigid mica
#

i released the update days ago not having changed the description.

#

i thought being vague about the card was gonna make it look a bit too risky for players to use.

full edge
#

Still not sure whether you want people to actually use jt

frigid mica
#

i do

#

here's the description change

full edge
#

But also, I wouldn't worry about Murphy using it, because I can't imagine he'd do anything with it besides a print statement

hard plank
#

insta win

formal orchid
#

win_game()

hard plank
#

also you can do multiple commands

full edge
#

Running commands seems so inherently uninteresting to me that I don't know of any fun ways to even use it

frigid mica
#

the point of my mod isn't really to be sandbox mode, it's to just flex my art.

formal orchid
#

makes sense

frigid mica
#

i said that a couple times

full edge
#

I'm not sure I follow

frigid mica
#

but really im not a programmer, i'm an artist at heart

full edge
#

The goal isn't to be a sandbox mode? This card is a sandbox mode, no?

wanton rapids
neon orchid
#

I love money

#

Think of all the poverty that can be ADDED with a vigintillion dollars

inland plover
frigid mica
full edge
#

I'm still not sure I follow. But that's fine

frigid mica
toxic cloud
formal orchid
#

was there when it happened

#

goated mechanic

full edge
main path